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excited to go up north to a very special guests
that we have on of course, John Wood, NBC on
course reporter and also a team manager for the Ryder Cup.
No big deal, right, Well, we'll get into all that,
but welcome to swing it and ding it. John.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Thanks for having me, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, we appreciate it. We know you're in the hotel,
so you're doing a little guitar practice. Probably when you
get back and yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
My people next door to me probably don't like it
when they see me check in, but I can I
love it.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
John, You're probably more welcome than me right now because
I almost three month old, So when they see me
check in, they're likely Now, yeah, we'll take the.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Guitar, So John, let's start with their presence. But we
know how much you love these team events, right You
have a long history of them, going back to I
believe oh two Ryder Cup was the first team event,
that's right, Mark calcol Yeah, and you know, I've listened
to several of your interviews and clips and it just
pours through how much these things mean to you. And
(01:50):
you know, I'm hoping you can kind of tell our
audience like why right, Like we know some of the
some of the reasons, but like for you, especially now,
you know, with with the new naming of the teammate
manager for the Ryder Cup, probably is a bigger and
a different meaning to you. But what is it about
these things that just get the people going and get
you fired up?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah? You know, before I got into golf, I was
a team sport guy.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I played basketball and football and baseball, and you know
those team atmospheres. You just don't get the opportunity to
do that in this sport pretty much at this level
once a year if you're lucky, and you make these
teams once I made my first Ryder Cup team with
Mark Calcabeci.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
As you said in O.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Two, once you're in one of those team rooms, you
just don't want to miss another one because the weeks
are so special. Weekend week it's basically you and your player,
and you've got your buddies you might have dinner with,
to play practice rounds with, but it's a two man
team for the most part.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
When you get these weeks, you get twelve players.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
And twelve caddies and the assistants all pulling on the
same rope, and it's just fun having that common goal
and getting to know guys in a deeper way than
you do week in week out on tour, not only personally,
but watch and how they go about their job.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You know, I can't tell.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
You how many things I've learned in these team rooms watching,
you know, being able to up close and watch Tiger
Woods or Phil Mickelson and these guys prepare for events
and their caddies.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You pick up things that maybe you didn't see.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Before, you didn't know about before. So there's so many reasons,
but but those are the two main ones.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I think, Well, what do you you know? How does
the caddies roll change or does it change when when
you're talking about a team competition.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
That's a great question, and it does change. You work
more as a team. Usually you were out walking the
course by yourself, maybe with one other guy, trying to
figure it out for your player. Like yesterday afternoon, for example,
I saw seven of the American caddies together.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Out walking the back nine. You just don't see that.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Sharing ideas and picking up things that maybe you didn't
see and somebody else sees, or you you picked up
and somebody else didn't pick up. On the other thing
is especially key for match play and the alternate shot person.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
You've got to figure out some stuff for your partner.
What does he like?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You know, if if you normally see a hole and
you go, I'm hitting driver here because I like that
little short wedge, I'm gonna have him. Well, if he
doesn't like that short wedge, then you need to alter
your your strategy and talk to his caddy and say
what does he like? What does he want, So that
stuff you've got to figure out, especially if your alternate
shot partners. In addition to that, you've got to maybe
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it depends on what kind of brand golf ball he uses,
but if he uses a different golf ball, you got
to figure that out for your player because you might
not think it's a big deal at this level, but
you know, five yards on a pitching wedge, or or
one that flies a little higher, spins a little bit more,
that's twenty feet all of a sudden. So to figure
that out on the go, you've got to know all
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that stuff. So you take a few of your your
potential partners balls out with you, hit some shots with him,
especially around the greens, especially with wedges, trying to figure
out exactly the difference between his ball in your ball,
just so you know when you're ready in the fight
and flag goes up for competition.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
They're always such fun little tidbits there, Like the golf ball.
We talk about that all the time, like with match
play when they were playing, but people don't think about that,
Like you said, the spin right and how you're hitting it.
But aside from key matches, let's talk about the course.
I heard you on Golf Channel talking about how thick
the rough was and how this course maybe out of
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you know, all Presidents Cups sets up most European, like.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I thought, so usually a lot of times these events,
you know, set up by the PGA Tour, so they're
pretty neutral setups in general. They don't favor one team
or the other. Ryder Cups just the opposite. When you
come to America, we tend to have it, you know,
very low rough, pretty big fairways, very fast greens. We
go to Europe, they slow down the greens, they grow
the rough, which kind of.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
You know, favors their team a little bit.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
This year is the first year it feels like they've
tried to mitigate some of that. You know, American strength
is always driving distance, driving a long ways.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Hitting wedges.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I don't think you're gonna be able to just bomb
and gouge it this week because the rough is so thick,
especially we're supposed to get a lot of rain today
and tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Luckily so far it hasn't. It's held off and we
haven't had any.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
But yeah, it's very, very thick rough, probably the thickest
I've ever seen for a President's Cup. So It's one
you're gonna have to really think about. And you can't
just bomb it up there and play from the rough.
You're not gonna be able to do that this week.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You gotta find fairways interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
So.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I don't know if you've ever had a story quite
like the one we have with Keegan Bradley, right, you know,
the heartbreak of not making the Ryder Cup. He gets
named Ryder Cup Captain, which seems to catch everyone, including himself,
off guard. Then he says, I want to play, right,
he gets he gets the assistant captain role that he
gets into the President's Cup. He loses the not loses it,
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but they said, hey, you need to concentrate on playing
and furress. But he still has you know, his eye
is obviously going to be on how this thing all
really works from that side, you know, from that perspective.
Have you had a chance to really spend some time
with him? Obviously you will leading into the Ryder Cup,
But where is his head at in this?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, we've talked a lot ever since he got named.
You know, obviously we've been in communication about a lot
of things, but one of the things we talked about
was when he got named, he was so. I think
he was fourteenth on the President's Cup when he got
named on the list, and you know, we talked about
during the events. You know, during tournaments, I kind of said,
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you play. You know, I can do whatever you need
me to do. If you have things you want me
to take care of. His team manager, I'm on it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I can talk to anybody that can communicate. You play golf.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And once he got past that first playoff event, because
he was right on the edge of making it to
the BMW, finished right on the number fiftieth got him
and I really felt like once he got there, a
lot comes with getting to that tournament. You get in
all the signature events the following year. That took a
load off his shoulders, and it really feels like it
freed him up.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
And obviously it did.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
He goes on to win BMW, you make the President's
Cup team, And I think it's huge for a few reasons.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
He was gonna be in that room.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Anyways, as a as a vice captain if you're not
a player, to kind of see the inner workings and
get back into a team room. But I think this
is gonna be huge for his captaincy next year because
the guys are gonna see he's a player still.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
He knows how this feels in here.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
So you know, when we get to the Ryder Cup
next year, even if Keegan's not playing, if he doesn't
make the team as a player, I think there's gonna
be a huge respect for him not there.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
That wasn't for other captains.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
But he's so close to these guys in that he's
still a player and they're gonna know, Hey, he was
writing these President's Cup inside the ropes playing last year.
He knows exactly what this feels like. And he's not
gonna put us in a situation to fail. And you know,
I've been so impressed with Keegan. I've known Keegan for
a long time, but never to disagree that this degree
and he is every time we have a little Ryder
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Cup meeting. It's like he's been thinking about this for
his whole life. He's just decisive, he's got answers, he
knows what he wants, he knows how he wants to
shape the team, and it's just been so impressive.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
So he's so excited for this week.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I talked to him a little bit yesterday on the
range and he was ready to go yesterday, run through
a brick roll all right away. And there's a great
story about Keegan his first Ryder Cup in twenty twelve.
He's so intense and such a competitor. He was hitting
the first t shot playing with Phil Michelson alternate shot
and they announced him and you know, first he had
a Ryder Cups like nothing else. Crowd goes crazy and
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he can tease it up and bombs won three forty
right down the middle. And he's walking off the tee
and he turns the bones Phil's caddie and goes, what happened?
I didn't see it, don't I don't know what happened.
He hit three forty right down the middle.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
You're good? He goes, Okay, I kind of blocked out there.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Wow wow, Well what do you when you're talking about
Royal Montreal and you know, describing the course, it sounds
like a perfect venue for two of those Canadians, Corey
Connors and Mackenzie Hughes, because they play that kind of
point to point kind of golf style. They don't right
to overpower a golf course. Who else on these two teams?
Might this place be tailor made for? You know?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I think I've got Colin Morrikawa. I think Russell Henley
is gonna play well. He just has that kind of game.
There's not a golf course in the world that doesn't
set up for Scotti, Scheffler and Ander Schoffley right now.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I mean, it doesn't matter what you do. Those guys
are playing such good golf and have all year.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I think the key for the Internationals, I said this yesterday,
is gonna be hanging around and getting the Canadian players
to get a couple of points early and get the
crowd into it. Because on paper you look at it,
and of course the American team is favored, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Heavily favored with the world rankings.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But you know, you guys, know sports, in any sport,
if if an underdog could hang around and just stay close,
you know through the first two sessions that that pressure
starts to kind of switch a little bit, and all
of a sudden, you know, the Americans look at the
board and think, boy, we we should be and this
handily and when it's still very close, and I think
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if they can do that, they can Corey Connors and
Pendrith can get a point on the board early, a
couple of points, get the crowd into it, and get
the crowd partisan. That is huge because a lot of
times in these in these things, you go on the
road for the USA and there's still a lot of
USA fans. Yeah, but if they can switch that and
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make the crowd very partisan, which I hope they are.
I mean these team events, I like those partisan crowds
either way, whether they're for you or against you, it's
just part of it. So I'm kind of hoping the
crowd is very partisan and the USA has gotta, you know,
buck up and play some golf.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Let's talk about the captains, right.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Jim Fire kind of an out of pocket response that
we saw a couple of days coming out responding to
the journalist Adam On asking, you know, are you maybe rooting,
you know, for the international team just to kind of
shake things up a little bit, and uh Fyork took
extreme offence to it and saying, uh, you know, you
got to understand, like you're an American, you got to understand,
(12:04):
like I actually do take offense to that. Use some keywords,
maybe some explicits, talk about the passion, what we're seeing
from him, and you know, kind of how he's feeling yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Know, I think knowing those two guys, I think it
was probably a little bit of a misunderstanding. I think
it was probably a little bit in a relaxed situation,
not necessarily you know, a press conference. I think I
think I think Jim was probably joking with him a
little bit and it just comes out in print differently.
(12:35):
But you know, I think Adam has a good point
in that this this event needs a close match.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It just does.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I mean, we've had some close ones. Korea was very close,
Melbourne was very close. You know, I think this for
this tournament, the health of the tournament. I think it'd
be great for the Internationals to play well. I know,
obviously being an American, I'm rooting for the Americans, not
openly because i'm media.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Now, but you know, I'm from my position now. I
want a close match.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I would love for it to come down to those
last few matches on singles on Sunday, just because that
just adds so much to the event and.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
The health of the event.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
So I see Adam's point could have been asked a
little differently maybe, and Jim could have responded.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
But I think it was a little bit of a misunderstanding.
To be honest with you, the.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Media, I can definitely twist some things around, but when
the headline comes out, you know, if you're said to
go yourself, it's like what Jim, we like to stir
the pop for sure, Well.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Let's stay with that final pairing on Sunday because you've
been there, I believe, maybe twice on the road, once
for a win, once for a loss even and in
the last Ryder Cup, the caddies were just as big
of a story as the players. Wondering if you're if
there's gonna be any standout caddy uh antics this year
or no involvement.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You never know, you know, in general, caddies kind of
like to be like umpired. If we get noticed, it's
probably for something bad, So it's uh, you know, nobody
plans to be But I don't think caddies this day
and age.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Plays such a bigger role than maybe twenty.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Years ago that I think a lot of caddies aren't
afraid of that to get involved and and maybe you know,
step in where before they may.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Not have.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
So you know, hopefully not hopefully if they do, it's
for a great read or a good club or some
good advice down the stretch and nothing controversial, but you know,
like we talked about, anything to stir the pot a
little bit sometimes makes it a little more fun, right.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Right, Well, two years ago at the President's Cup, it
was you know, Tom Kim was you know, took sort
of the world by storm with his emotion and you
know it was really just a fascinating watch. And not
a lot of young guns really on these teams. But
might might it be Tigallo or a min Wu Lee,
you know, to captivate the audience this year?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, I think Minwu Lee is a great call to
Gall as well. He's such a great guy. I love
the guy, his caddies all them too, and he's had
a great years. You get when you're a rookie on
these teams, it's like a whole new world. Your eyes
get big, it's you just you just never so sometimes
you know, a guy like the Galla will just go
to a level he wasn't able to go to before,
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just because it's so exciting, so pumped up, and you
know you're playing for more than yourself. It's which is
you know, it's sometimes you raise to a new level
when you're playing for other players. Other caddies and your captain.
I think Minwu Lee is a great call.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
That guy. He's a birdie machine.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
He makes a ton of birdies and he loves getting
the crowd involved. He will be I I almost guarantee you.
You see in these things sometimes where they get the
crowd going on the first tee and hit their shot,
you know, streaming, And we saw Tom Kim do that
last time in Charlotte, and I could see Min MoU
doing that this year.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I think he.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Feeds off the crowd. The crowd feeds off him. So
he's another key guy for the Internationals. If he gets going,
it's almost like more than one point if he were
to win, because it's just gets that momentum going, gets
the crowd involved. And it's amazing how often these things.
Momentum plays such a huge part because as you're playing,
if you look up on the scoreboard and you see
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your team sweeping all the matches, you get excited and
you want to get your match going vice versa. If
you see your team behind and everything, that pressure ads
and it builds.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So you know, it's so even the first few.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Holes of a session, if the US guys see, you know,
the first three matches all one up.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
The momentum starts to go really fast.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
So I think min Wu could be one of those
guys that they throw out early to try and get
the crowd going along with Canadians and get some blue
up on the board for him.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. So it's President's Cup week. We
don't want to look past it, but you have a
pretty big job being named team manager of the Ryder
Cup at best page black coming off of a loss,
talk about when you receive that call or how you
received it and what you felt in that moment, just
with your history with the event.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I mean, I was It's my favorite event ever. It's
such an honor, such a privilege to be of any
part of a Ryder Cup. And I had written some
you know, after some Ryder Cups that I've been a
part of, I had written some stories and that kind
of got around to some of the PGA officials and
I know those guys really well. Seth Wall called me,
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you know, this is probably June, early June, late May
this year, and we were having a conversation and say
they were thinking about They told me they were thinking
about creating this position as a team manager for the
United States team just to kind of create some institutional
memory from year to year, because I think the US
in general.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Kind of starts from scratch every two years.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
When there's a big portion of the organization scheduling that
can be the same every year, that doesn't need to
go all the way to the captain's desk. So I thought,
you know, this is a great idea. I think this is,
you know, something we should have been a long time coming.
But in my mind, I'm thinking, this is really cool
that Seth law is calling me for advice on who
they should hire.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
That was my thinking. I'm going, who would be good
at this? And I'm trying to think of players and
next players.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
And we got late in the conversation and Seth goes, no, no,
you're not understanding.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
We want we want you to do it.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
You just described your own job. Good job.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I couldn't I couldn't say yes fast enough.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
And uh, you know, like I said, it's it's the
it's my favorite event.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It's such a thrill to be a part of it.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
And you know, even as an announcer, it's been it's
been a blast to be a part of the last
two at Whistling Straits and in Marcus Simoni.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
But to be back in the team room and working.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
With the guys again, Uh, it's it's the biggest honor
of my career, whatever that is.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
So it's just uh, it's it's beyond belief that.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I think Michelle Tasori, Paul Tosi's caddy for Tom Kim,
she's a good friend and she posted after it was
announced she said, there's the key to life. Love something
so much that they create a position for you because
of it, And it's just like that's that describes it
perfectly for me.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Awesome, that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Gngratulations, thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
John.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Philly based podcast. We always have to ask this question.
We like to describe it as an embarrassment of riches
with all the golf courses.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
We have there.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Talk about your choice in Philly golf courses. What's your
number one?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Marion I just adoor Marion Hunter Mayhan who caddied for
for a long time. We came very close there in
that US Open that Justin rose Won didn't know anything
about the golf course when we went there. His agent
aren't tell him who I think still worked for the Phillies,
or at least was working for the Phillies. He told
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us a lot about the course, and when we got
there the first time I walked.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
It, I just fell in love with it.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
It's you know, it's it's kind of an anti modern
golf course.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
It's tight, it's quirky. You've got to play a to B.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Two C and that was kind of Hunter's game, you know,
great driver of the ball, really had good control of it.
It and h the Philly crowds. There's nothing like a
Philly crowd, good or bad. It's it's passionate, which is
what you want. So I just adore Marian And there's
a lot of great courses, as you said, but Marion
is one of my top five in the world.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Wow yeah, Wow.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
For sure, gotta love Marion. And I'm gonna I'm gonna
ask one more question. This is maybe you know, the
hardest question you'll get is.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Who should we have on our podcast as our next guest.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
You know, I just mentioned him, Paul to story.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Paul Tatory has been out here for so long as
a caddie, you know, for so many great players.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
V J. Singh h to name just one, but he.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Is a great storyteller, super passionate about everything, remembers every
story in his whole career. And the great thing about
it for you guys, for the if you have one
for an hour, you only have to ask one question.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
He's gone. He's gone.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
He will take the rest of it, and uh, you
guys can take the rest of the day off.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
But I love Paul. He's a great friend and.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Just a passionate guy about what he does, and he's
he'd be a great guy to have on.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Maybe you can connect us with him, Yeah, shoot, shoot
him a text and connect him with her.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Hopefully I will.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Is that a Martin behind you? What do you got there?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
It's a tailor Taylor.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Nice guitar.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah, the overhead bind so they let me. Let me
throw it in there and and bug everybody with it.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
People are like, who's just rockstar on our.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Play? For us?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I said, if you need to evacuate the play, I'm
your guy.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Everybody will run creating all types of jobs for you.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Oh yeah, the great John John. We are we are
huge fans. We love your own course. You give us
a great perspective and really take us inside and and
uh make it so much more interesting to watch these events.
And you know, I'm super excited for you with the
with the Ryder Cup team management and looking forward to
the coverage all week. And try to keep a handle
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on that Johnson Wagner guy. He's out.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Nobody can keep a handle on. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
This was a blast and anytime you want me on,
you got my number now, so just shoot me a
message and happy to come on.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
This was fun.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
All right, guys, let's take a quick break. We will
be right back. All right, Welcome back to Swing It
and Ding It. Awesome conversation with John but I mean,
what a great guy to talk to. He's so positive,
like just upbeat.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It loves what he does. Yeah really really uh really
love and it's funny. You know, it's funny too, Like
there's some people that have done the encore stuff where
they really kind of stand out almost too much. Does
that make any sense? Where John doesn't, right, Like it's
not about him at all when he does it, and
it's it comes through so much like there's never a
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moment like, oh man, that was crazy what he said.
It's like, no, he's just he's just describing the action. Yeah,
and and and bringing it into your living room, which
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I don't think anybody's really believing in what they're seeing
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The crown is Billy Horsechel's Harry. Oh man, I think
he's going to have to just move to England at
the point. Yeah, he's always the Premier League. Yep, you
know he wins over there. So two weeks in a row,
Rory is close, but no cigar playoff hole. Pretty pretty
uh compelling finish there.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I was into it, man. I was watching early Sunday morning.
I did not play golf. I had to, you know,
do the Eagles post game, so I knew I wasn't
going to try to squeeze in around of golf and
then watch that. So I was dialed into this the
entire final round and it was it was pretty captivating.
I got to be honest with that final group. And
you know, you go to a you know, a playoff
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hole and you know two playoff holes, and you know
the hole really well. I've been watching that tournament for years,
so you know the big dog leg right with the
water in front of the green, and you know, Rory
hits like a was it a four iron or something
and almost put in the water. You mishit it and
kind of almost put it in the water. And and
Horsell and he then in the extra hole. In the
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second extra hole, both hit the green. They've got sort
of similar pots, and Rory almost puts his in and
and Billy Horschell just rolls. I said to myself, one
of these guys is gonna miss, and one's gonna make.
This is the end. And Horsell as soon as he
hit that pot, I'm like, that's going in. When he
creeps out into the I just love love watching him.
(25:30):
But because as soon as he gets set over the
ball man he draws the powder back. It's like he
does all his analysis as he's creeping there.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
And then.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
But yeah, that big win for him.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Huge.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Post game two, I liked listening to him a little
bit because he's like, you know, he's like when your
game's not fully together, He's like, I'm a grinder, I'm
a worker, like I hustle, And you could see that
out there, you know, over the over the course of
the course of four days. Yeah, but what was monta
Sero Like his wheels just fell off, Like yeah, final
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round seventy three, and then you had the Tristan Lawrence
who was also in that three part playoff.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
He shot a sixty five together, and.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
We saw him kind of come up on at the
Open Championship. He was a part of the final day there.
That was the first time I really noticed him. So
he's legit.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mind seeing Billy Horssechell in beth Page.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He'd be a great Ryder Cup.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
He'd be great. He wouldn't want to play against him.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
He's got fear, he's a fierce competitor and he's into it. Yeah,
he'd be good.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Yeah, we'll be good.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah. Uh, Eddie t to spill this week, Danielle.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Yeah, we got a little bit. We got a little
bit we can talk about. Uh, let's take it to
the LPGA. Lydia Co I mean that just her. I
mean we were saying that Nelly was Scotti Scheffler. I
mean lydia Coe maybe also Scotti esque as well.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Dominated in Ohio.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
She's having just a season, her third LPGA title of
the year nine under sixty three. She ended up winning
the Kroger Quick City Championship by five. Listen to this
stat Hair nine out of twenty two wins on the
PGA Tour just twenty two or LPGA Tour, pardon me.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Have come from.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
She's won a victory of three or more shots nine
out of those twenty two. Yeah, so gold medal at
the Olympics and then this would be a back to
back win for her, winning the AIG Women's Open at
Saint Andrews and of course, like I just said, the
Kroger event here put her right back in that winner
circle again.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
So she's having a season.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah. They had that on a new golf course for
that venue, the TPC designed by Arnold Palmer. It used
to be played I think the golf course Kenwood country Club,
which was a classic layout, but this was, you know,
a new venue so that, you know, it was a
good tournament. I watched a lot of that too.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Yeah, yeah, I know I can always rely on her
for my women's Yeah. To get my fix on that,
I wanted to take it back to the President's Cup
real quick. We saw the international team wearing the uh,
you know, all neutral colors, the monochromatic look, and at
first everyone's like, oh, this is you know, you know,
kind of a nod to Adam Scott. Turns out it
(28:06):
was so it was pretty funny. I don't know if
you guys saw that at all, but they were wearing
like cat like beije and beige Jackie.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Yeah, yeah, just the monochromatic look.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Yeah, it's so funny because they always give Adam you know, yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Yeah, he makes it look good.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
And then Min Louie had shaved over his right ear.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I n t throwing up some you know, peace signs
or whatever he was doing for international.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
We got a little Min Louie right, I was just
pretty great.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
So we saw that, and then what else do we
have here with President's Cup? Two fun stats here, Adam
Scott has played more President's Cup matches than the entire
US team combined. So ten appearances forty nine matches for
mister Scott and then eleven combined appearances in forty seven
matches for the entire team USA.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see who Mike we're
partners with him. He apparently has not maybe the the
most adaptable player you would think he would be, but.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Sort of has.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You wonder if it's like Jason Day, like a well
known GUYE or a new guy, you know, a rookie curious.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yeah, interesting, we want to see how that plays out.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Another fun stat with comparison of the team's or entire
field when we're talking about Scotty Scheffler. Scotty Scheffler had
more wins in twenty twenty four eight than the other
twenty three players combined at the President's Cup being seven.
So that's just got a wild And then another fun
President's Cup back. We're has never won a President's Cup.
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He appeared in five. He has a thirteen nine and
two record, so for looking at.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
The Tiger Woods, he did.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
And then talk about Tiger in President's Cup. Do you
guys remember that there's well, well well that too, but yeah,
the squirrel that like came up on him. Oh yeah,
those photos were circulating back around X again.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
It's kind of funny. I love when they pull out those.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
And then we saw the Phil Mickelson with like George Bush,
Bill Clinton selfie. So I love when those old you know,
the old content from previous years rolled out.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
It's kind of cool to see those.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Oh yeah, that is it is for this US team.
You look at Homer Harmon feene out to an extent,
even can't lay. They're not exactly coming in playing their
their best golf. Ya, A lot of these guys are
looking to sort of reignite themselves here because I think
this could be a little closer than the experts think.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Yeah, well, there's.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Seven members returning from the twenty twenty two winning team.
They have a four to one and one record on
international soil. So but you know, like we heard John
saying like this rough is so thick. This is most
you've seen a course set up for, you know, like
a European style, And if they get some rain, we uh.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
We could see it a little closer than what everyone thinks.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Well, speaking of playing well and dealing with rain, Harry,
will we finally get this round in today? This is
Is this the third time this has been rescheduled? Second?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yea, hopefully we won't need a third.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
We know how Harry and Rain pair together.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, I'm going to get it in.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
But and of course we're playing with Coop and Greene today,
and I'm getting accused on a text chain for bringing
the rain by Coop because he listens to the podcast
and we talk about, you know, if.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Getting it on a private chain with myself, and yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I apologize, Harry, I do push that narrative pretty.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Often, so fake news.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Yeah, every time Harry's on.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Union League Tourist doll looking forward to it. I'm actually
playing Manufacturers this week too, and Philly Cricket next week.
So wow, nice, nice little, nice little quick trifecta. Wow,
the weather, if the weather cooperates, because this is the
time of year where I could we could fall off
pretty quickly.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Could be the same thing down here. It's like hurricane season.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
And you know, I talked to me and I was like, look, Wednesdays,
is it every Wednesday?
Speaker 6 (32:15):
We're going to go to the course. Whatever.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
We got this ridiculous I think I broke my toe
this morning on it, this huge ridiculous putting green that
Brandon decided was going to go.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Uh he he wanted to put it in our living room,
and I was like, I don't think so, so I
had to readjust it.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
But it's in our house and he's putting and you
can chip off of it and everything else. So the
other night we put the baby to bed and I'm,
you know, working on my swing, and he's showing me
a bunch of stuff and we're like, all right, Wednesdays
is it? We're going to go to the course golf
caddy or stroller caddy. They sent me this awesome thing
to go on the stroller where I can have all
my clubs on it. So we're going to go out
there tonight. But of course, you know, with the weather
(32:50):
being as it is, we have thunderstorms everything else. So
hoping that clears up and uh, you know, maybe I'll
send you guys a swing video or two, depending if
we get.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Out there or not.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, I need to know what this mat is. You
can chip off of it, you say, Oh, yeah, I'd
like to get one of those. Put in a basement,
share link with you.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Actually, we'll save it for next week and I'll share
the name of the map. They'll give me ten percent
commission and then I'll share it with you.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Love it, Love it. Well, let's dig into the President's Cup.
US twelve one and one have won nine straight. We
are at Royal Montreal. Let's talk about the course of course,
of course sponsored by the Penn Club on Zecond, who
I saw have some new membership options they just rolled
out they do. Yeah, let's talk about the course in
the Pen Club her.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
All right, Royal Montreal A Dick Wilson design. He's of
course has his hands on Bayhill Durral even locally here
in Delaware. Bidterman was designed by Dick Wilson. Rhys Jones
did a touch up before the last time they had
the President's Cup here in the early two thousand, seventy
three hundred and nineteen yards par seventy parkland style. There's
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water in play on six holes on the closing nine,
including the final five holes from fourteen through eighteen. Green's
average five thousand square feet. The course favors accuracy over distance.
There's only two par fives, the sixth and the twelfth,
and four par threes five, seven, thirteen, and seventeen will
start at the fourteenth pole, par four four hundred yards
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water left side from the green halfway back to the tee.
The right side of the fairway is a forest, so
there's a narrow fairway at the landing area with bunkers
on the right side. Players may use iron off the
tee here and the approach is to a narrow green
with three sections with a bunker front right. The hole
can be shortened and they will do this to three
hundred yards with the move the tee up. We're going
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to make it driveable. So this is going to be
part of the fun here on the closing side. Remember
a lot of some of these matches don't get to
these final couple of holes. You know, you get shut out.
But I think the fourteenth hole is going to be
a pivotal hole this week and they will get to it.
The par four to fifteenth pole four forty eight, it's
another shot placement tee shot with water in the front
and left side of the green, which is a long,
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narrow green with a pair of bunkers on the right
and a pot on the back left that goes between
the water and the green. The par four sixteenth holes
four hundred and fifty eight, large pond on the left
side of the fairway. Accuracy Trump's length. You're starting to
get a theme here. There's water on the closing holes
and you better find the fairway. As Woody said, a
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lot of irons will be used off these te's. I
think par three seventeenth holes only one hundred and fifty
eight yards. The t shots played over a pond that
extends down the right side of the green. There's a
little room for error between this narrow green and the water.
It's heavily bunkered on the left and the green has
a spine right through the middle from back to front. Now,
the par four eighteenth hole, four hundred and sixty six
(35:43):
yard par four narrow landing area sounds like the same hole,
A lot of a lot of the same approach here,
narrow landing areas, bunkers left and right and water. So,
you know, looking forward to this, I don't know much
about it. I don't think I watched the President's Cup
when it was here last definitely did not see any
Canadian opens that were played here, and there were a
bunch of them. So I'm curious to to see how
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this plays out. But that fourteenth hole I think is
going to be big.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, no doubt about it. And with the income at
weather Harry talk about the pen club, it's not just
not just for rainy days, but it's nice to have
it when there are Let's face it.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
It really is. I was there the other night just
working on some wedges and and iron approach shots. And
like you said, they've got some new membership options check
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Speaker 5 (36:44):
I was just gonna say, let's get that pen club high,
you know, a little T shirt and Moose up with
something else.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
We're going to be doing a live event out there
in the near future, so we'll make sure beautiful out everywhere.
We'll get out, do the do the pod live from there.
Maybe do a little contest pin maybe on one of
those holes. We'll see, we'll see how it goes. But yeah,
where I would be nice, that would be lovely. So
a couple of things. I mean, obviously I want to
see Kegan. I want to see what happens with him
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the Gala. We talked about it. How about this is
the first time since nineteen ninety three with no Phil Tiger,
jt or Speith, crazy because they were supposed to be
the passing of the guard too, right, You're like, Okay,
well why does that matter? Like they're different errors. But
it's interesting and I'm really curious to see some of
the some of the max homos of the world, you know,
(37:33):
Russell Henley who would he mentioned, to see how he
plays when when the bright lights in a team competition
are on. But and the one for me is Scotti Scheffler.
Oh three and one in President's Cup, Yeah, two, five
and four President's Cup and Ryder Cup. Now, yes, he
was a different player too three four years ago. I
get that. But yeah, with the guy who's so laser
(37:53):
focused and so into his own world and his own
game and nothing bothers him. Now you're playing with a partner,
Now you're playing alter shot, now you're using a different ball.
It's it's interesting how that listen, Tiger Woods didn't does
not have the greatest in these plays, right, another guy
who's just so locked in on his own game. So
it's so cool to see how that affects different guys,
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you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Absolutely, And you know he'll be paired with burns I
imagine his his body. Uh so he's very comfortable with that.
But yeah, it's a limit, it's more limited sample obviously
with Scotty and nobody's had a better year than this year.
Like Danielle mentioned, what he's got seven wins plus a
gold medal, so eight wins, uh, you know, but that
is something to watch because that stat is interesting, even
(38:36):
though it's a limited sample.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Yeah, they were asking.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Him of like, you know, some people are saying you're
the underdog.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Some people are saying, you know, you're gonna dominate.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
He's like, I just you know, I guess any of
us can script his response, like, I'm not worried about
what people are saying.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna try.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
But I think him being with Burns will give him
a little more comfortability with that.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, and it's curious to see some of the other guys.
Are you get the Canadians, Cory Connors, pen d Mackenzie, Hughes,
you got our guy Bazudenhut, who's gonna get it. Yeah,
they're looking forward to seeing him. But when you look
at official World Golf rankings, US average twelve point four,
international thirty four point four, top fifteen players in the world,
US has eight Hideki is the lone guy on the
(39:18):
international side, so it's a mismatch. But throw that all
out the window sometimes when you get to when you
get to team play like this, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
You definitely do. You throw out the record books, as
they say, when Army, Navy, you know, get together. But uh,
you know, I know the world rankings make it look
like a mismatch. But I was listening to our boy
Brandal Shamblee last night on the Golf Channel, and strokes gained,
total strokes gained. If you look at these teams, they're
very even.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, So, I mean the world rankings are a little
skew to begin with.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
To me, Randall goes deep.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
He does go deep.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
You gotta you gotta appreciate that. And the Johnson Wagner
stuff is so good. We have to get him on
this now. Yes, did you see well the two things
Wannie recreated this out in the water. But then he's trying.
He's chunking wedges and laughing at him like.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
There's a set of life from was cracking up and
I'm cracking up, crying.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
He was laughing so hard he was crying. It was
that funny, I felt, my man. Yeah, times, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
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So when we look at the odds for the President's Cup,
the latest minus test fifty, I believe two fifty International
plus two seventy five. It's interesting when you dig in
because I could I could see like I could see
it being tight in the beginning, right, I could see
(42:31):
the International team kind of jumping out, so like a
day one kind of prop bet of taking a look
at that. When you look at the event props, you
have top point scorers, which it's funny because Seffler has
the shortest odds, right, and someone who hasn't really played
the best the most points. But there's always you know,
there's going to be that there's one or two guys
(42:53):
that stand out. The person no one's really talking about
is Wyindam Clark, right, is he going to play like
Wyndham Clark. We don't. We don't know. Is he going
to play he did a couple of years ago, or
or up and down. But you're placing some wagers on this.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
I have not yet, you know. I I doesn't mean
I won't. I kind of think Colin Moore Kawa is
gonna have a big week and I might go hit
with him for most points hundred eight hundred, Okay, Yeah
I would. I would put a little shekel on that.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, yeah, I like that too, Like, yeah, very I'm
looking forward to this one. I think there's a there's
so many storylines in here. Like I said, there's gonna
be a lot about Kegan. What do you think happens.
If comes back around and he qualifies for the Ryder Cup,
you have to replace him as captain, right you can't.
You can't captain play cup.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I don't think that's I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
When you haven't even been an assistant.
Speaker 6 (43:47):
Coming from a women's beer league softball it was.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
Tough period, same, you know, it's like, come on, you
got a lot going on. You got to focus on
just running the team. I think he'd have to forgo.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
I think you'd have to go four go playing, wouldn't
you think, because you can't just name the captain at
the the last minute like that, can you.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I don't. I don't know. If he has a chance
to play, he could.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Easily play the fill a player more so that I
think than you can late stage a captain, right, bring it.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
You'd have to bring a Furik or somebody who just
did it, probably right, bring him it up. But if
Keegan has a chance to play, he's he's playing in
this thing. He said that, like he didn't even he
wasn't even thinking about being a captain. That probably wasn't
even on his radar. You know, like he wants to
play in these events. I would want to yeah, no
doubt about it. Well, thank you guys, Harry, I'll see
you a little bit on the on the T box.
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Oh yeah, we'll get some stuff out there. Thanks again
to John Wood for coming on. Well, we'll make sure
we post everything so you can follow along. And uh,
thanks for listening. We'll be back next week, but
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excited to go up north to a very special guests
that we have on of course, John Wood, NBC on
course reporter and also a team manager for the Ryder Cup.
No big deal, right, Well, we'll get into all that,
but welcome to swing it and ding it. John.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Thanks for having me, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, we appreciate it. We know you're in the hotel,
so you're doing a little guitar practice. Probably when you
get back and yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
My people next door to me probably don't like it
when they see me check in, but I can I
love it.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
John, You're probably more welcome than me right now because
I almost three month old, So when they see me
check in, they're likely Now, yeah, we'll take the.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Guitar, So John, let's start with their presence. But we
know how much you love these team events, right You
have a long history of them, going back to I
believe oh two Ryder Cup was the first team event,
that's right, Mark calcol Yeah, and you know, I've listened
to several of your interviews and clips and it just
pours through how much these things mean to you. And
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you know, I'm hoping you can kind of tell our
audience like why right, Like we know some of the
some of the reasons, but like for you, especially now,
you know, with with the new naming of the teammate
manager for the Ryder Cup, probably is a bigger and
a different meaning to you. But what is it about
these things that just get the people going and get
you fired up?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah? You know, before I got into golf, I was
a team sport guy.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I played basketball and football and baseball, and you know
those team atmospheres. You just don't get the opportunity to
do that in this sport pretty much at this level
once a year if you're lucky, and you make these
teams once I made my first Ryder Cup team with
Mark Calcabeci.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
As you said in O.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Two, once you're in one of those team rooms, you
just don't want to miss another one because the weeks
are so special. Weekend week it's basically you and your player,
and you've got your buddies you might have dinner with,
to play practice rounds with, but it's a two man
team for the most part.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
When you get these weeks, you get twelve players.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
And twelve caddies and the assistants all pulling on the
same rope, and it's just fun having that common goal
and getting to know guys in a deeper way than
you do week in week out on tour, not only personally,
but watch and how they go about their job.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You know, I can't tell.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
You how many things I've learned in these team rooms watching,
you know, being able to up close and watch Tiger
Woods or Phil Mickelson and these guys prepare for events
and their caddies.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
You pick up things that maybe you didn't see.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Before, you didn't know about before. So there's so many reasons,
but but those are the two main ones.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I think, Well, what do you you know? How does
the caddies roll change or does it change when when
you're talking about a team competition.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
That's a great question, and it does change. You work
more as a team. Usually you were out walking the
course by yourself, maybe with one other guy, trying to
figure it out for your player. Like yesterday afternoon, for example,
I saw seven of the American caddies together.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Out walking the back nine. You just don't see that.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Sharing ideas and picking up things that maybe you didn't
see and somebody else sees, or you you picked up
and somebody else didn't pick up. On the other thing
is especially key for match play and the alternate shot person.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
You've got to figure out some stuff for your partner.
What does he like?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You know, if if you normally see a hole and
you go, I'm hitting driver here because I like that
little short wedge, I'm gonna have him. Well, if he
doesn't like that short wedge, then you need to alter
your your strategy and talk to his caddy and say
what does he like? What does he want, So that
stuff you've got to figure out, especially if your alternate
shot partners. In addition to that, you've got to maybe
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it depends on what kind of brand golf ball he uses,
but if he uses a different golf ball, you got
to figure that out for your player because you might
not think it's a big deal at this level, but
you know, five yards on a pitching wedge, or or
one that flies a little higher, spins a little bit more,
that's twenty feet all of a sudden. So to figure
that out on the go, you've got to know all
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that stuff. So you take a few of your your
potential partners balls out with you, hit some shots with him,
especially around the greens, especially with wedges, trying to figure
out exactly the difference between his ball in your ball,
just so you know when you're ready in the fight
and flag goes up for competition.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
They're always such fun little tidbits there, Like the golf ball.
We talk about that all the time, like with match
play when they were playing, but people don't think about that,
Like you said, the spin right and how you're hitting it.
But aside from key matches, let's talk about the course.
I heard you on Golf Channel talking about how thick
the rough was and how this course maybe out of
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you know, all Presidents Cups sets up most European, like.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I thought, so usually a lot of times these events,
you know, set up by the PGA Tour, so they're
pretty neutral setups in general. They don't favor one team
or the other. Ryder Cups just the opposite. When you
come to America, we tend to have it, you know,
very low rough, pretty big fairways, very fast greens. We
go to Europe, they slow down the greens, they grow
the rough, which kind of.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
You know, favors their team a little bit.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
This year is the first year it feels like they've
tried to mitigate some of that. You know, American strength
is always driving distance, driving a long ways.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Hitting wedges.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I don't think you're gonna be able to just bomb
and gouge it this week because the rough is so thick,
especially we're supposed to get a lot of rain today
and tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Luckily so far it hasn't. It's held off and we
haven't had any.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
But yeah, it's very, very thick rough, probably the thickest
I've ever seen for a President's Cup. So It's one
you're gonna have to really think about. And you can't
just bomb it up there and play from the rough.
You're not gonna be able to do that this week.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You gotta find fairways interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
So.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I don't know if you've ever had a story quite
like the one we have with Keegan Bradley, right, you know,
the heartbreak of not making the Ryder Cup. He gets
named Ryder Cup Captain, which seems to catch everyone, including himself,
off guard. Then he says, I want to play, right,
he gets he gets the assistant captain role that he
gets into the President's Cup. He loses the not loses it,
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but they said, hey, you need to concentrate on playing
and furress. But he still has you know, his eye
is obviously going to be on how this thing all
really works from that side, you know, from that perspective.
Have you had a chance to really spend some time
with him? Obviously you will leading into the Ryder Cup,
But where is his head at in this?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, we've talked a lot ever since he got named.
You know, obviously we've been in communication about a lot
of things, but one of the things we talked about
was when he got named, he was so. I think
he was fourteenth on the President's Cup when he got
named on the list, and you know, we talked about
during the events. You know, during tournaments, I kind of said,
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you play. You know, I can do whatever you need
me to do. If you have things you want me
to take care of. His team manager, I'm on it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I can talk to anybody that can communicate. You play golf.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
And once he got past that first playoff event, because
he was right on the edge of making it to
the BMW, finished right on the number fiftieth got him
and I really felt like once he got there, a
lot comes with getting to that tournament. You get in
all the signature events the following year. That took a
load off his shoulders, and it really feels like it
freed him up.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
And obviously it did.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
He goes on to win BMW, you make the President's
Cup team, And I think it's huge for a few reasons.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
He was gonna be in that room.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Anyways, as a as a vice captain if you're not
a player, to kind of see the inner workings and
get back into a team room. But I think this
is gonna be huge for his captaincy next year because
the guys are gonna see he's a player still.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
He knows how this feels in here.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
So you know, when we get to the Ryder Cup
next year, even if Keegan's not playing, if he doesn't
make the team as a player, I think there's gonna
be a huge respect for him not there.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
That wasn't for other captains.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
But he's so close to these guys in that he's
still a player and they're gonna know, Hey, he was
writing these President's Cup inside the ropes playing last year.
He knows exactly what this feels like. And he's not
gonna put us in a situation to fail. And you know,
I've been so impressed with Keegan. I've known Keegan for
a long time, but never to disagree that this degree
and he is every time we have a little Ryder
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Cup meeting. It's like he's been thinking about this for
his whole life. He's just decisive, he's got answers, he
knows what he wants, he knows how he wants to
shape the team, and it's just been so impressive.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
So he's so excited for this week.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
I talked to him a little bit yesterday on the
range and he was ready to go yesterday, run through
a brick roll all right away. And there's a great
story about Keegan his first Ryder Cup in twenty twelve.
He's so intense and such a competitor. He was hitting
the first t shot playing with Phil Michelson alternate shot
and they announced him and you know, first he had
a Ryder Cups like nothing else. Crowd goes crazy and
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he can tease it up and bombs won three forty
right down the middle. And he's walking off the tee
and he turns the bones Phil's caddie and goes, what happened?
I didn't see it, don't I don't know what happened.
He hit three forty right down the middle.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
You're good? He goes, Okay, I kind of blocked out there.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Wow wow, Well what do you when you're talking about
Royal Montreal and you know, describing the course, it sounds
like a perfect venue for two of those Canadians, Corey
Connors and Mackenzie Hughes, because they play that kind of
point to point kind of golf style. They don't right
to overpower a golf course. Who else on these two teams?
Might this place be tailor made for? You know?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I think I've got Colin Morrikawa. I think Russell Henley
is gonna play well. He just has that kind of game.
There's not a golf course in the world that doesn't
set up for Scotti, Scheffler and Ander Schoffley right now.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I mean, it doesn't matter what you do. Those guys
are playing such good golf and have all year.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I think the key for the Internationals, I said this yesterday,
is gonna be hanging around and getting the Canadian players
to get a couple of points early and get the
crowd into it. Because on paper you look at it,
and of course the American team is favored, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Heavily favored with the world rankings.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
But you know, you guys, know sports, in any sport,
if if an underdog could hang around and just stay close,
you know through the first two sessions that that pressure
starts to kind of switch a little bit, and all
of a sudden, you know, the Americans look at the
board and think, boy, we we should be and this
handily and when it's still very close, and I think
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if they can do that, they can Corey Connors and
Pendrith can get a point on the board early, a
couple of points, get the crowd into it, and get
the crowd partisan. That is huge because a lot of
times in these in these things, you go on the
road for the USA and there's still a lot of
USA fans. Yeah, but if they can switch that and
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make the crowd very partisan, which I hope they are.
I mean these team events, I like those partisan crowds
either way, whether they're for you or against you, it's
just part of it. So I'm kind of hoping the
crowd is very partisan and the USA has gotta, you know,
buck up and play some golf.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Let's talk about the captains, right.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Jim Fire kind of an out of pocket response that
we saw a couple of days coming out responding to
the journalist Adam On asking, you know, are you maybe rooting,
you know, for the international team just to kind of
shake things up a little bit, and uh Fyork took
extreme offence to it and saying, uh, you know, you
got to understand, like you're an American, you got to understand,
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like I actually do take offense to that. Use some keywords,
maybe some explicits, talk about the passion, what we're seeing
from him, and you know, kind of how he's feeling yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Know, I think knowing those two guys, I think it
was probably a little bit of a misunderstanding. I think
it was probably a little bit in a relaxed situation,
not necessarily you know, a press conference. I think I
think I think Jim was probably joking with him a
little bit and it just comes out in print differently.
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But you know, I think Adam has a good point
in that this this event needs a close match.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
It just does.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I mean, we've had some close ones. Korea was very close,
Melbourne was very close. You know, I think this for
this tournament, the health of the tournament. I think it'd
be great for the Internationals to play well. I know,
obviously being an American, I'm rooting for the Americans, not
openly because i'm media.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Now, but you know, I'm from my position now. I
want a close match.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I would love for it to come down to those
last few matches on singles on Sunday, just because that
just adds so much to the event and.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
The health of the event.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
So I see Adam's point could have been asked a
little differently maybe, and Jim could have responded.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
But I think it was a little bit of a misunderstanding.
To be honest with you, the.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Media, I can definitely twist some things around, but when
the headline comes out, you know, if you're said to
go yourself, it's like what Jim, we like to stir
the pop for sure, Well.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Let's stay with that final pairing on Sunday because you've
been there, I believe, maybe twice on the road, once
for a win, once for a loss even and in
the last Ryder Cup, the caddies were just as big
of a story as the players. Wondering if you're if
there's gonna be any standout caddy uh antics this year
or no involvement.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
You never know, you know, in general, caddies kind of
like to be like umpired. If we get noticed, it's
probably for something bad, So it's uh, you know, nobody
plans to be But I don't think caddies this day
and age.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Plays such a bigger role than maybe twenty.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Years ago that I think a lot of caddies aren't
afraid of that to get involved and and maybe you know,
step in where before they may.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Not have.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
So you know, hopefully not hopefully if they do, it's
for a great read or a good club or some
good advice down the stretch and nothing controversial, but you know,
like we talked about, anything to stir the pot a
little bit sometimes makes it a little more fun, right.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Right, Well, two years ago at the President's Cup, it
was you know, Tom Kim was you know, took sort
of the world by storm with his emotion and you
know it was really just a fascinating watch. And not
a lot of young guns really on these teams. But
might might it be Tigallo or a min Wu Lee,
you know, to captivate the audience this year?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, I think Minwu Lee is a great call to
Gall as well. He's such a great guy. I love
the guy, his caddies all them too, and he's had
a great years. You get when you're a rookie on
these teams, it's like a whole new world. Your eyes
get big, it's you just you just never so sometimes
you know, a guy like the Galla will just go
to a level he wasn't able to go to before,
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just because it's so exciting, so pumped up, and you
know you're playing for more than yourself. It's which is
you know, it's sometimes you raise to a new level
when you're playing for other players. Other caddies and your captain.
I think Minwu Lee is a great call.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
That guy. He's a birdie machine.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
He makes a ton of birdies and he loves getting
the crowd involved. He will be I I almost guarantee you.
You see in these things sometimes where they get the
crowd going on the first tee and hit their shot,
you know, streaming, And we saw Tom Kim do that
last time in Charlotte, and I could see Min MoU
doing that this year.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I think he.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Feeds off the crowd. The crowd feeds off him. So
he's another key guy for the Internationals. If he gets going,
it's almost like more than one point if he were
to win, because it's just gets that momentum going, gets
the crowd involved. And it's amazing how often these things.
Momentum plays such a huge part because as you're playing,
if you look up on the scoreboard and you see
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your team sweeping all the matches, you get excited and
you want to get your match going vice versa. If
you see your team behind and everything, that pressure ads
and it builds.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
So you know, it's so even the first few.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Holes of a session, if the US guys see, you know,
the first three matches all one up.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
The momentum starts to go really fast.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
So I think min Wu could be one of those
guys that they throw out early to try and get
the crowd going along with Canadians and get some blue
up on the board for him.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. So it's President's Cup week. We
don't want to look past it, but you have a
pretty big job being named team manager of the Ryder
Cup at best page black coming off of a loss,
talk about when you receive that call or how you
received it and what you felt in that moment, just
with your history with the event.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I mean, I was It's my favorite event ever. It's
such an honor, such a privilege to be of any
part of a Ryder Cup. And I had written some
you know, after some Ryder Cups that I've been a
part of, I had written some stories and that kind
of got around to some of the PGA officials and
I know those guys really well. Seth Wall called me,
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you know, this is probably June, early June, late May
this year, and we were having a conversation and say
they were thinking about They told me they were thinking
about creating this position as a team manager for the
United States team just to kind of create some institutional
memory from year to year, because I think the US
in general.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Kind of starts from scratch every two years.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
When there's a big portion of the organization scheduling that
can be the same every year, that doesn't need to
go all the way to the captain's desk. So I thought,
you know, this is a great idea. I think this is,
you know, something we should have been a long time coming.
But in my mind, I'm thinking, this is really cool
that Seth law is calling me for advice on who
they should hire.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
That was my thinking. I'm going, who would be good
at this? And I'm trying to think of players and
next players.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
And we got late in the conversation and Seth goes, no, no,
you're not understanding.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
We want we want you to do it.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
You just described your own job. Good job.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I couldn't I couldn't say yes fast enough.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
And uh, you know, like I said, it's it's the
it's my favorite event.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It's such a thrill to be a part of it.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
And you know, even as an announcer, it's been it's
been a blast to be a part of the last
two at Whistling Straits and in Marcus Simoni.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
But to be back in the team room and working.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
With the guys again, Uh, it's it's the biggest honor
of my career, whatever that is.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
So it's just uh, it's it's beyond belief that.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I think Michelle Tasori, Paul Tosi's caddy for Tom Kim,
she's a good friend and she posted after it was
announced she said, there's the key to life. Love something
so much that they create a position for you because
of it, And it's just like that's that describes it
perfectly for me.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Awesome, that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Gngratulations, thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
John.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Philly based podcast. We always have to ask this question.
We like to describe it as an embarrassment of riches
with all the golf courses.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
We have there.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Talk about your choice in Philly golf courses. What's your
number one?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Marion I just adoor Marion Hunter Mayhan who caddied for
for a long time. We came very close there in
that US Open that Justin rose Won didn't know anything
about the golf course when we went there. His agent
aren't tell him who I think still worked for the Phillies,
or at least was working for the Phillies. He told
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us a lot about the course, and when we got
there the first time I walked.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
It, I just fell in love with it.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
It's you know, it's it's kind of an anti modern
golf course.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
It's tight, it's quirky. You've got to play a to B.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Two C and that was kind of Hunter's game, you know,
great driver of the ball, really had good control of it.
It and h the Philly crowds. There's nothing like a
Philly crowd, good or bad. It's it's passionate, which is
what you want. So I just adore Marian And there's
a lot of great courses, as you said, but Marion
is one of my top five in the world.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Wow yeah, Wow.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
For sure, gotta love Marion. And I'm gonna I'm gonna
ask one more question. This is maybe you know, the
hardest question you'll get is.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Who should we have on our podcast as our next guest.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
You know, I just mentioned him, Paul to story.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Paul Tatory has been out here for so long as
a caddie, you know, for so many great players.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
V J. Singh h to name just one, but he.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Is a great storyteller, super passionate about everything, remembers every
story in his whole career. And the great thing about
it for you guys, for the if you have one
for an hour, you only have to ask one question.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
He's gone. He's gone.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
He will take the rest of it, and uh, you
guys can take the rest of the day off.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
But I love Paul. He's a great friend and.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Just a passionate guy about what he does, and he's
he'd be a great guy to have on.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Maybe you can connect us with him, Yeah, shoot, shoot
him a text and connect him with her.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Hopefully I will.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Is that a Martin behind you? What do you got there?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
It's a tailor Taylor.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Nice guitar.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah, the overhead bind so they let me. Let me
throw it in there and and bug everybody with it.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
People are like, who's just rockstar on our.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Play? For us?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I said, if you need to evacuate the play, I'm
your guy.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Everybody will run creating all types of jobs for you.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Oh yeah, the great John John. We are we are
huge fans. We love your own course. You give us
a great perspective and really take us inside and and
uh make it so much more interesting to watch these events.
And you know, I'm super excited for you with the
with the Ryder Cup team management and looking forward to
the coverage all week. And try to keep a handle
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on that Johnson Wagner guy. He's out.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Nobody can keep a handle on. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
This was a blast and anytime you want me on,
you got my number now, so just shoot me a
message and happy to come on.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
This was fun.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
All right, guys, let's take a quick break. We will
be right back. All right, Welcome back to Swing It
and Ding It. Awesome conversation with John but I mean,
what a great guy to talk to. He's so positive,
like just upbeat.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It loves what he does. Yeah really really uh really
love and it's funny. You know, it's funny too, Like
there's some people that have done the encore stuff where
they really kind of stand out almost too much. Does
that make any sense? Where John doesn't, right, Like it's
not about him at all when he does it, and
it's it comes through so much like there's never a
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moment like, oh man, that was crazy what he said.
It's like, no, he's just he's just describing the action. Yeah,
and and and bringing it into your living room, which
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Speaker 1 (23:39):
I don't think anybody's really believing in what they're seeing
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The crown is Billy Horsechel's Harry. Oh man, I think
he's going to have to just move to England at
the point. Yeah, he's always the Premier League. Yep, you
know he wins over there. So two weeks in a row,
Rory is close, but no cigar playoff hole. Pretty pretty
uh compelling finish there.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I was into it, man. I was watching early Sunday morning.
I did not play golf. I had to, you know,
do the Eagles post game, so I knew I wasn't
going to try to squeeze in around of golf and
then watch that. So I was dialed into this the
entire final round and it was it was pretty captivating.
I got to be honest with that final group. And
you know, you go to a you know, a playoff
(24:47):
hole and you know two playoff holes, and you know
the hole really well. I've been watching that tournament for years,
so you know the big dog leg right with the
water in front of the green, and you know, Rory
hits like a was it a four iron or something
and almost put in the water. You mishit it and
kind of almost put it in the water. And and
Horsell and he then in the extra hole. In the
(25:09):
second extra hole, both hit the green. They've got sort
of similar pots, and Rory almost puts his in and
and Billy Horschell just rolls. I said to myself, one
of these guys is gonna miss, and one's gonna make.
This is the end. And Horsell as soon as he
hit that pot, I'm like, that's going in. When he
creeps out into the I just love love watching him.
(25:30):
But because as soon as he gets set over the
ball man he draws the powder back. It's like he
does all his analysis as he's creeping there.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
And then.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
But yeah, that big win for him.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Huge.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Post game two, I liked listening to him a little
bit because he's like, you know, he's like when your
game's not fully together, He's like, I'm a grinder, I'm
a worker, like I hustle, And you could see that
out there, you know, over the over the course of
the course of four days. Yeah, but what was monta
Sero Like his wheels just fell off, Like yeah, final
(26:02):
round seventy three, and then you had the Tristan Lawrence
who was also in that three part playoff.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
He shot a sixty five together, and.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
We saw him kind of come up on at the
Open Championship. He was a part of the final day there.
That was the first time I really noticed him. So
he's legit.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mind seeing Billy Horssechell in beth Page.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
He'd be a great Ryder Cup.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
He'd be great. He wouldn't want to play against him.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
He's got fear, he's a fierce competitor and he's into it. Yeah,
he'd be good.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Yeah, we'll be good.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah. Uh, Eddie t to spill this week, Danielle.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Yeah, we got a little bit. We got a little
bit we can talk about. Uh, let's take it to
the LPGA. Lydia Co I mean that just her. I
mean we were saying that Nelly was Scotti Scheffler. I
mean lydia Coe maybe also Scotti esque as well.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Dominated in Ohio.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
She's having just a season, her third LPGA title of
the year nine under sixty three. She ended up winning
the Kroger Quick City Championship by five. Listen to this
stat Hair nine out of twenty two wins on the
PGA Tour just twenty two or LPGA Tour, pardon me.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Have come from.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
She's won a victory of three or more shots nine
out of those twenty two. Yeah, so gold medal at
the Olympics and then this would be a back to
back win for her, winning the AIG Women's Open at
Saint Andrews and of course, like I just said, the
Kroger event here put her right back in that winner
circle again.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
So she's having a season.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah. They had that on a new golf course for
that venue, the TPC designed by Arnold Palmer. It used
to be played I think the golf course Kenwood country Club,
which was a classic layout, but this was, you know,
a new venue so that, you know, it was a
good tournament. I watched a lot of that too.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Yeah, yeah, I know I can always rely on her
for my women's Yeah. To get my fix on that,
I wanted to take it back to the President's Cup
real quick. We saw the international team wearing the uh,
you know, all neutral colors, the monochromatic look, and at
first everyone's like, oh, this is you know, you know,
kind of a nod to Adam Scott. Turns out it
(28:06):
was so it was pretty funny. I don't know if
you guys saw that at all, but they were wearing
like cat like beije and beige Jackie.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Yeah, yeah, just the monochromatic look.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
Yeah, it's so funny because they always give Adam you know, yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Yeah, he makes it look good.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
And then Min Louie had shaved over his right ear.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I n t throwing up some you know, peace signs
or whatever he was doing for international.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
We got a little Min Louie right, I was just
pretty great.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
So we saw that, and then what else do we
have here with President's Cup? Two fun stats here, Adam
Scott has played more President's Cup matches than the entire
US team combined. So ten appearances forty nine matches for
mister Scott and then eleven combined appearances in forty seven
matches for the entire team USA.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see who Mike we're
partners with him. He apparently has not maybe the the
most adaptable player you would think he would be, but.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Sort of has.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You wonder if it's like Jason Day, like a well
known GUYE or a new guy, you know, a rookie curious.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Yeah, interesting, we want to see how that plays out.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Another fun stat with comparison of the team's or entire
field when we're talking about Scotty Scheffler. Scotty Scheffler had
more wins in twenty twenty four eight than the other
twenty three players combined at the President's Cup being seven.
So that's just got a wild And then another fun
President's Cup back. We're has never won a President's Cup.
(29:52):
He appeared in five. He has a thirteen nine and
two record, so for looking at.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
The Tiger Woods, he did.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
And then talk about Tiger in President's Cup. Do you
guys remember that there's well, well well that too, but yeah,
the squirrel that like came up on him. Oh yeah,
those photos were circulating back around X again.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
It's kind of funny. I love when they pull out those.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
And then we saw the Phil Mickelson with like George Bush,
Bill Clinton selfie. So I love when those old you know,
the old content from previous years rolled out.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
It's kind of cool to see those.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Oh yeah, that is it is for this US team.
You look at Homer Harmon feene out to an extent,
even can't lay. They're not exactly coming in playing their
their best golf. Ya, A lot of these guys are
looking to sort of reignite themselves here because I think
this could be a little closer than the experts think.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Yeah, well, there's.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Seven members returning from the twenty twenty two winning team.
They have a four to one and one record on
international soil. So but you know, like we heard John
saying like this rough is so thick. This is most
you've seen a course set up for, you know, like
a European style, And if they get some rain, we uh.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
We could see it a little closer than what everyone thinks.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Well, speaking of playing well and dealing with rain, Harry,
will we finally get this round in today? This is
Is this the third time this has been rescheduled? Second?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yea, hopefully we won't need a third.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
We know how Harry and Rain pair together.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, I'm going to get it in.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
But and of course we're playing with Coop and Greene today,
and I'm getting accused on a text chain for bringing
the rain by Coop because he listens to the podcast
and we talk about, you know, if.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Getting it on a private chain with myself, and yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I apologize, Harry, I do push that narrative pretty.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Often, so fake news.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Yeah, every time Harry's on.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Union League Tourist doll looking forward to it. I'm actually
playing Manufacturers this week too, and Philly Cricket next week.
So wow, nice, nice little, nice little quick trifecta. Wow,
the weather, if the weather cooperates, because this is the
time of year where I could we could fall off
pretty quickly.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Could be the same thing down here. It's like hurricane season.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
And you know, I talked to me and I was like, look, Wednesdays,
is it every Wednesday?
Speaker 6 (32:15):
We're going to go to the course. Whatever.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
We got this ridiculous I think I broke my toe
this morning on it, this huge ridiculous putting green that
Brandon decided was going to go.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Uh he he wanted to put it in our living room,
and I was like, I don't think so, so I
had to readjust it.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
But it's in our house and he's putting and you
can chip off of it and everything else. So the
other night we put the baby to bed and I'm,
you know, working on my swing, and he's showing me
a bunch of stuff and we're like, all right, Wednesdays
is it? We're going to go to the course golf
caddy or stroller caddy. They sent me this awesome thing
to go on the stroller where I can have all
my clubs on it. So we're going to go out
there tonight. But of course, you know, with the weather
(32:50):
being as it is, we have thunderstorms everything else. So
hoping that clears up and uh, you know, maybe I'll
send you guys a swing video or two, depending if
we get.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Out there or not.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, I need to know what this mat is. You
can chip off of it, you say, Oh, yeah, I'd
like to get one of those. Put in a basement,
share link with you.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Actually, we'll save it for next week and I'll share
the name of the map. They'll give me ten percent
commission and then I'll share it with you.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Love it, Love it. Well, let's dig into the President's Cup.
US twelve one and one have won nine straight. We
are at Royal Montreal. Let's talk about the course of course,
of course sponsored by the Penn Club on Zecond, who
I saw have some new membership options they just rolled
out they do. Yeah, let's talk about the course in
the Pen Club her.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
All right, Royal Montreal A Dick Wilson design. He's of
course has his hands on Bayhill Durral even locally here
in Delaware. Bidterman was designed by Dick Wilson. Rhys Jones
did a touch up before the last time they had
the President's Cup here in the early two thousand, seventy
three hundred and nineteen yards par seventy parkland style. There's
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water in play on six holes on the closing nine,
including the final five holes from fourteen through eighteen. Green's
average five thousand square feet. The course favors accuracy over distance.
There's only two par fives, the sixth and the twelfth,
and four par threes five, seven, thirteen, and seventeen will
start at the fourteenth pole, par four four hundred yards
(34:17):
water left side from the green halfway back to the tee.
The right side of the fairway is a forest, so
there's a narrow fairway at the landing area with bunkers
on the right side. Players may use iron off the
tee here and the approach is to a narrow green
with three sections with a bunker front right. The hole
can be shortened and they will do this to three
hundred yards with the move the tee up. We're going
(34:38):
to make it driveable. So this is going to be
part of the fun here on the closing side. Remember
a lot of some of these matches don't get to
these final couple of holes. You know, you get shut out.
But I think the fourteenth hole is going to be
a pivotal hole this week and they will get to it.
The par four to fifteenth pole four forty eight, it's
another shot placement tee shot with water in the front
and left side of the green, which is a long,
(35:00):
narrow green with a pair of bunkers on the right
and a pot on the back left that goes between
the water and the green. The par four sixteenth holes
four hundred and fifty eight, large pond on the left
side of the fairway. Accuracy Trump's length. You're starting to
get a theme here. There's water on the closing holes
and you better find the fairway. As Woody said, a
(35:21):
lot of irons will be used off these te's. I
think par three seventeenth holes only one hundred and fifty
eight yards. The t shots played over a pond that
extends down the right side of the green. There's a
little room for error between this narrow green and the water.
It's heavily bunkered on the left and the green has
a spine right through the middle from back to front. Now,
the par four eighteenth hole, four hundred and sixty six
(35:43):
yard par four narrow landing area sounds like the same hole,
A lot of a lot of the same approach here,
narrow landing areas, bunkers left and right and water. So,
you know, looking forward to this, I don't know much
about it. I don't think I watched the President's Cup
when it was here last definitely did not see any
Canadian opens that were played here, and there were a
bunch of them. So I'm curious to to see how
(36:05):
this plays out. But that fourteenth hole I think is
going to be big.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, no doubt about it. And with the income at
weather Harry talk about the pen club, it's not just
not just for rainy days, but it's nice to have
it when there are Let's face it.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
It really is. I was there the other night just
working on some wedges and and iron approach shots. And
like you said, they've got some new membership options check
them out at PC two Kanchi dot com. I got that,
you know, the merch there they're asking for all conch here,
but they want some of our merch. They like the
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Speaker 5 (36:44):
I was just gonna say, let's get that pen club high,
you know, a little T shirt and Moose up with
something else.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
We're going to be doing a live event out there
in the near future, so we'll make sure beautiful out everywhere.
We'll get out, do the do the pod live from there.
Maybe do a little contest pin maybe on one of
those holes. We'll see, we'll see how it goes. But yeah,
where I would be nice, that would be lovely. So
a couple of things. I mean, obviously I want to
see Kegan. I want to see what happens with him
(37:11):
the Gala. We talked about it. How about this is
the first time since nineteen ninety three with no Phil Tiger,
jt or Speith, crazy because they were supposed to be
the passing of the guard too, right, You're like, Okay,
well why does that matter? Like they're different errors. But
it's interesting and I'm really curious to see some of
the some of the max homos of the world, you know,
(37:33):
Russell Henley who would he mentioned, to see how he
plays when when the bright lights in a team competition
are on. But and the one for me is Scotti Scheffler.
Oh three and one in President's Cup, Yeah, two, five
and four President's Cup and Ryder Cup. Now, yes, he
was a different player too three four years ago. I
get that. But yeah, with the guy who's so laser
(37:53):
focused and so into his own world and his own
game and nothing bothers him. Now you're playing with a partner,
Now you're playing alter shot, now you're using a different ball.
It's it's interesting how that listen, Tiger Woods didn't does
not have the greatest in these plays, right, another guy
who's just so locked in on his own game. So
it's so cool to see how that affects different guys,
(38:14):
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Absolutely, And you know he'll be paired with burns I
imagine his his body. Uh so he's very comfortable with that.
But yeah, it's a limit, it's more limited sample obviously
with Scotty and nobody's had a better year than this year.
Like Danielle mentioned, what he's got seven wins plus a
gold medal, so eight wins, uh, you know, but that
is something to watch because that stat is interesting, even
(38:36):
though it's a limited sample.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Yeah, they were asking.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Him of like, you know, some people are saying you're
the underdog.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Some people are saying, you know, you're gonna dominate.
Speaker 5 (38:45):
He's like, I just you know, I guess any of
us can script his response, like, I'm not worried about
what people are saying.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna try.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
But I think him being with Burns will give him
a little more comfortability with that.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, and it's curious to see some of the other guys.
Are you get the Canadians, Cory Connors, pen d Mackenzie, Hughes,
you got our guy Bazudenhut, who's gonna get it. Yeah,
they're looking forward to seeing him. But when you look
at official World Golf rankings, US average twelve point four,
international thirty four point four, top fifteen players in the world,
US has eight Hideki is the lone guy on the
(39:18):
international side, so it's a mismatch. But throw that all
out the window sometimes when you get to when you
get to team play like this, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
You definitely do. You throw out the record books, as
they say, when Army, Navy, you know, get together. But uh,
you know, I know the world rankings make it look
like a mismatch. But I was listening to our boy
Brandal Shamblee last night on the Golf Channel, and strokes gained,
total strokes gained. If you look at these teams, they're
very even.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Yeah, So, I mean the world rankings are a little
skew to begin with.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
To me, Randall goes deep.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
He does go deep.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
You gotta you gotta appreciate that. And the Johnson Wagner
stuff is so good. We have to get him on
this now. Yes, did you see well the two things
Wannie recreated this out in the water. But then he's trying.
He's chunking wedges and laughing at him like.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
There's a set of life from was cracking up and
I'm cracking up, crying.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
He was laughing so hard he was crying. It was
that funny, I felt, my man. Yeah, times, yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
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So when we look at the odds for the President's Cup,
the latest minus test fifty, I believe two fifty International
plus two seventy five. It's interesting when you dig in
because I could I could see like I could see
it being tight in the beginning, right, I could see
(42:31):
the International team kind of jumping out, so like a
day one kind of prop bet of taking a look
at that. When you look at the event props, you
have top point scorers, which it's funny because Seffler has
the shortest odds, right, and someone who hasn't really played
the best the most points. But there's always you know,
there's going to be that there's one or two guys
(42:53):
that stand out. The person no one's really talking about
is Wyindam Clark, right, is he going to play like
Wyndham Clark. We don't. We don't know. Is he going
to play he did a couple of years ago, or
or up and down. But you're placing some wagers on this.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
I have not yet, you know. I I doesn't mean
I won't. I kind of think Colin Moore Kawa is
gonna have a big week and I might go hit
with him for most points hundred eight hundred, Okay, Yeah
I would. I would put a little shekel on that.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, yeah, I like that too, Like, yeah, very I'm
looking forward to this one. I think there's a there's
so many storylines in here. Like I said, there's gonna
be a lot about Kegan. What do you think happens.
If comes back around and he qualifies for the Ryder Cup,
you have to replace him as captain, right you can't.
You can't captain play cup.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I don't think that's I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
When you haven't even been an assistant.
Speaker 6 (43:47):
Coming from a women's beer league softball it was.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
Tough period, same, you know, it's like, come on, you
got a lot going on. You got to focus on
just running the team. I think he'd have to forgo.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
I think you'd have to go four go playing, wouldn't
you think, because you can't just name the captain at
the the last minute like that, can you.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I don't. I don't know. If he has a chance
to play, he could.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Easily play the fill a player more so that I
think than you can late stage a captain, right, bring it.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
You'd have to bring a Furik or somebody who just
did it, probably right, bring him it up. But if
Keegan has a chance to play, he's he's playing in
this thing. He said that, like he didn't even he
wasn't even thinking about being a captain. That probably wasn't
even on his radar. You know, like he wants to
play in these events. I would want to yeah, no
doubt about it. Well, thank you guys, Harry, I'll see
you a little bit on the on the T box.
(44:42):
Oh yeah, we'll get some stuff out there. Thanks again
to John Wood for coming on. Well, we'll make sure
we post everything so you can follow along. And uh,
thanks for listening. We'll be back next week, but
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Listen, swing it and bring it
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.