Swing It & Ding It: Episode 219

Joined by Philly’s Patrick Sheehan off of his Monday Q into The Cognizent. Joe Highsmith gets an Impressive win. the Tea with D, The Course of Course presented by The Penn Club on 2nd for the API and See The Line.

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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Just got to get out there and swing and ding it.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, you know, just guess it's going to go out
there and try to swing it and ding it.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
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Speaker 5 (00:34):
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we like it to take it to Philly Golf.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
We have a great Philly golf story. Patrick Shean joined,
swing it and ding it. Welcome to the show man.

Speaker 6 (00:53):
Yeah, thanks for having me. I appreciate you guys having
me up.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
No problem, no problem.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
So I'm sure life has been a whirlwind over the
past couple of weeks, and we want to kind of
get into your whole golf journey and obviously dig into
the Philly goal side. But let's start with the most
recent with the Monday Q and making it into the
Cognizant and just wanted to get your thoughts on just
how I mean intense that was. First of all, just

(01:20):
having to play incredible golf, going eight under sixty four
to get in. But now all of a sudden you're in, right,
and it's a little bit different than anything else.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
That you probably ever experienced.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Just talk about those two moments of the winning and
then I got to get into this thing and try
to kind of play.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
So yeah, it was it was a whirlwind. That was
my first Monday qualifier. I've actually ever played it. So
I went through the pre qu on Thursday, of course,
called Indian Spring and Boyton Beach, and.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
I've won a minor league.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
There a few weeks ago, so I was feeling good
about that course and ended up getting in. I thought
I was comfortably in, and then one of the guys
in my group made about a fifty footer and then
I had to make my five foot slider to get through,
but happy to do that.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
And then yeah, once I got to the Monday it was.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
It was nice because my brother was here this weekend
and he was flying out later that night and he's caddied.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
For me in a couple of USMS and some other qualifiers.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
But I got first tea time and I was like, okay,
the rain's coming, this is this is a good opportunity.
I got a good draw and then we just we
just kind of went out there, and you know, I
just always hear how hard these Monday qualifiers are. So
I'm like, all right, you just got to shoot low.
And so I'm like, all right, I'm just gonnam aim
at every pin. And you know, I haven't been known
to be a good putter sometimes, so I'm like, I

(02:37):
really need to try and you know, rely on my
ball striking, which I did, and you know, I just
kept I think I turned in four under. I made
a nice birdy on nine, and then I was like, okay,
you know, not in it, but need a really strong
back nine. And then yeah, I rallied all five birdies
in a row, and my putter just got hot. Felt
like every every shot that I hit ended up on

(02:59):
the fall line, so it was like the thoughts were
pretty straight, and uh when I got in, I three
putted the last hole unfortunately for my only bogie, and
I was kind of like, is that gonna kill me.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
I was. I was was pretty upset about it, but
Jim Herman, who I played with, was like, you're in.
But that kind of that almost then gave me kind.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Of a mental roller coaster because I kept having these
people telling me like, oh, you'll be good. Eight under
eight under always gets in. But just since I was
the first tea time waiting that whole day, I don't
know if I've ever been more mentally exhausted in my life.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
And then I showed back up to Sorrow.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Probably around five o'clock and that's great when they suspended play,
so then I had so I had to wait till
the morning.

Speaker 7 (03:46):
And did you sleep?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (03:49):
No, I slept fine. That was the question that I.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Was getting for a lot of people, especially like going
in the first round at Cognizant, but that didn't have
any issues sleeping.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
But it was just and then it was a.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Mad rush once I figured out I was in to
try and get back to PGA, and yeah, I didn't
have any credentials or anything, so that was it was
kind of odd getting in the gate.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
But yeah, once I got in kind of got settled.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
It was the kind of feeling sunk in once you're
walking around with these pros and stuff felt pretty cool.

Speaker 7 (04:21):
We'll talk about that.

Speaker 8 (04:22):
We were actually I was over there with Brad Vaxxon
and we found out that you had qualified, and we
actually were like, he's like, all.

Speaker 7 (04:28):
Right, we looked you up. He's like he's tall.

Speaker 8 (04:29):
Like we were riding around looking for you because I
was like, let's grab him for a quick interview for
the pod.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
You said no credentials. You know what day did you
get over there? What time? And what was that process? Like,
you know, just kind of figuring all out and getting
over there on ground.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
Yeah, I probably got out around maybe maybe around noon.
I got there and at le Wednesday, No, on Tuesday.
How did you get out on Tuesday?

Speaker 3 (04:53):
And at least like I talked to the one, the
kid that I was going to have Caddy, like on
Monday night. I was like, hey, like I have a
good chance of getting in, like just like free your
schedule up if you can't, and so like then we
met up after I came back from sore. We headed
over there around noon and then trying to figure out
registration and people actually believing that I was in the event,

(05:14):
so that took a little bit.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
But then once I got the.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Credentials and finally got out there. It was it was
kind of a mad rush to get the first tea
because I knew I couldn't play a Wednesday with the
pro am, so really just tried to hit a couple
of balls and get out there around probably twoish.

Speaker 7 (05:30):
What did you play your practice round with Front nine?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
I played with Braden Thornbury and Taylor Montgomery, so that.

Speaker 7 (05:38):
Was pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
They were two good, two good guys. Back nine.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I had to the maintenance crew was out on ten
to eleven, so I just walked ten to eleven, didn't
end up playing them, uh, and then end up just
playing the rest by myself. And then Matt Coucher joined
me on eighteen so that was and Danny Walker too,
so that was that was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
That is cool.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Now, I know you're living very close by during the
winter months, So what is your What was your familiarity
with the Champion Course coming into that event?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Uh, never played before, never seen it, just just just
watched it on TV, honestly, That's what I kind of
remember from. But yeah, Tuesday was my first time playing
and it was it was cool because I was there.
I was at TJ National probably two weeks before playing
a minor league event on their match course, and you
kind of drove past the first tea and the range

(06:26):
and see how green it was, which was kind of
crazy for me down in South Florida.

Speaker 6 (06:29):
You're playing these courses. It got bermuda everywhere.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, but then I oversee that pop on television.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, it looked great and it was It was nice
and it was comforting almost because it felt like it
was just back at home the rough.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
So that was that was kind of a nice, nice
perk to have.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
That's so, so you're there right now, it's now it's
tournament time. What was the biggest difference to you with,
you know, getting to the course before a PGA Tour
event compared to all the other experiences you've had playing
in tournaments.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, I mean you just I had to get there
a lot earlier, I'll say, because you know you're going through.
You don't know how many cars are gonna be waiting
to go through the checkpoints to get through, and.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
You don't want to have you don't have a Scheffler incident.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
Think that right, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
But yeah, I probably got there it was like two
hours beforehand, So I get there and now, well they
always have. I mean, they got nice spreads for breakfast
and lunch, so I'm like, I'm gonna take advantage all
of that.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Oh yeah, but yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
It's definitely a lot different preparing like before the round,
just because I'm usually like a fifty minute to an
hour guy.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
I don't need that much time.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
But yeah, with like the walking in between, you know,
the ropes and stuff and people like you, kind of
it just took some extra time that I was used to.

Speaker 8 (07:48):
So, Patrick, do you have any like wow moments on
the course, whether you know, playing with certain guys or
just the experience in general.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
No, I mean it was I've kind of always been
a big believer that, like, end of the day, it's.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
Just golf, no matter what event you're playing.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
And like I've been fortunate enough to playing for us MS,
so I got some at least some crowd experience last
year or this past fall at Hazel team uh, because
we were the only ones left out on the course planned.
But it's just kind of I think the wow factor
is more so just like the people that were following,
watching and kind of just you know, it's nice to

(08:24):
be like kind of supported like that and just have
like a big crowd and a lot of friends came out,
So that that was kind of the cool part for me, honestly.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Well, obviously you said, you know the Monday que you
got to fire at pins, you got to go low
to have a chance.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Now you have just a couple of days.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Turnaround to get ready to play a pretty difficult golf
course with a lot of water. I mean, you know,
big numbers can be anywhere. You don't know what the
win's going to be. What was the game plan for
Champions Course and how you know how long did it
take you to develop that with a with a new caddie.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, I think I think the biggest, uh the difference
coming in was that I couldn't use a range for
him and that was kind of my big My big concern, like.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
Hey, like, how how are we gonna get yards? Is
if I hit hit it offline.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
That was pretty good about that, except for one on
the second round I hit a tree and it bounced
right and I was like, you know, how are we
going to get this distance?

Speaker 7 (09:16):
And that was you.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
Know, my cat?

Speaker 3 (09:18):
He was great, but that he actually got it on
the number, So it was it was funny. Did you
see at the tour cast afterwards he sent me a
picture and he was like, see I got So that
was that was nice. But you know, like I said,
at the end of the day, it's just golf.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I was.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
I was gonna I knew I was playing well, just
gonna rely on the strengths of my game, which is
ball striking, and which I did.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
And then you know, the potter let me down, but
you know, it happens. But it was it was nice
to feel comfortable out there.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I didn't know how I was gonna feel at first,
but like first he was a little nerve wracking and
then you know, stripe one down the middle and then
ended up making urdy and I was like, all right,
you know, I settled in.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's just golf one or ten. The first day, I forget.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
Ten, which I was, which I was pretty happy about
that it was.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
A driver instead of you know, four iron out there,
and so that was it was a nice old start
on for sure.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
So talk about how your experience in the gap in
Philly golf, which we know is incredible, right, just talk
about the experiences you had and how maybe that moment
for you wasn't as big as it may have been
for others, just because of the great experience and the
great players that you get to play with from our area.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
We were really fortunate in Philly to have such good
competition and good players and you know, the GAP runs
such great events, and that was the biggest thing that
almost stung for me turning professionals and I couldn't couldn't.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Play in gap events anymore.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
But yeah, like you know, these gap events, you know,
Philly am they always get you know, a good amount
of people out watching, and they're always on good golf
courses and in good shape. So it didn't really feel
that much different than you know, say a gap event
when you're you know, you're just looking down fairways and
green but instead there's grandstands, so like.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
But that was one of the things that I was
I was happy about that.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
You know, I thought that the grand stands would kind
of be visually more in the way, but they're really
kind of just out there and at the end of
the day, you're really just kind of looking at the
pens fair way. So it's it's it's like I said,
it's just golf.

Speaker 8 (11:18):
So now staying On the topic of Philly golf, are
there any like local players or maybe coaches that had
a big influence on your golf development.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, I'd say, you know, really two people in particular.
I've been getting lessons from Lou Guzzy since I was
probably probably over ten years and you know, I don't
I've always kind of been a field player and I'm
not like a technical, so I don't see him often,
but you know, he's always been there for me whenever
I need some advice and some help on my swing.
And then the other person is Andy Waters, who he

(11:52):
kind of came into Tallamo or Rate when I did
probably nine ten years ago. I think that's when that
when I joined Talamore and I ever been a country
club kid before kind of grew up playing you know,
public golf where my parents weren't huge into My dad played,
but after your kids had kind of slowed down. But yeah,
Andy was he I mean, he was a huge part

(12:15):
with you know, the kind of allowed me to do
what I wanted to do at Talamore and kind of
was was a big help. And you know, when I
was a junior, they had some rules where I couldn't
play after certain times and or before certain times, and
he was kind of pretty lenient with that and always
supported my journey, always followed every event that I played in,
so you know, he was really a big, a big

(12:36):
part of my golf journey.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
All Right, well, I know, you hit it a mile,
you got to tell us, you know what's in the
bag right now, and what's the ball speed up to.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
So I'm pretty much all tailor made through the bag.
I'm still using the QI ten.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Uh've been found it to be a great fit for
me and my game and trying has always been my specialty.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
I probably averaged in the high high eighties, and you know,
I got a couple of like one night, two's out.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Not you know, not Brandon Matthew speed. But yeah, I'll
take the high eighties for sure.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
That's awesome. So talk about a second.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Your your Penn State career, right, you're the third lowest
career stroke average player in PSU history.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
What was experience like the playing for Penn State?

Speaker 7 (13:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (13:20):
I loved it up there.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
You know, I didn't have the best junior golf career
that I liked.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
It was very up and down, and you know, I
was just really happy to get a scholarship.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
From them, and the second that he you know, coach
and I and it was Coach Howe then called me
and we're like, we had spot for you. I was
you know about I was what I answered rate then
and there that I.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
Was going, But you know, I had to take some
time to tell my parents and stuff. But yeah, it
was awesome.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
It was a weird start to college with you know,
COVID and my freshman year, we were we had left
for our spring break trip, which is usually about eleven
twelve day trip. When we were down and Reynolds Leke
o'coney and that's you know, all the march man or
all the conference championship basketball tournaments were being canceled, but
we're like, we're golf, so nothing's gonna happen to us.

(14:10):
And then you know, next day, all of a sudden,
they're like we got to pack up and hope. So
that was a weird start and then not playing the
next ball, and then the sophomore year. I only played
two events in my freshman year and then yeah, sophomore
sophomore spring got in to play an event down in
Myrtle Beach for Coast to Carolina's event and played second round.

(14:33):
All of a sudden, come out of launch.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
My clubs were stalled, just gone no way.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, and of course called the Dunes Club, which they
just Myrtle Beach. It's great golf course. I can't say
enough good things about it. But came out club stall.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
They were just sitting outside of the clubhouse.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Like, yeah, just on the putting green with about twenty
other bags. Came out and I was like, you know
what am I gonna do? It ended up having to
play with the demo set, but then yeah, how did
you play?

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well?

Speaker 7 (14:58):
You needn't know how you played with the demo set.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
I didn't play very good in the event, so it
was it wasn't hard to beat how I played with
my other clubs. But yeah, it was actually probably the
greatest thing that ever happened to me, the biggest blessing
in disguise, because I ended up going had to go
back home, got eighth grade irons that I was using
that you know, you would never fit for someone my
height at that age, and just start playing my best

(15:21):
golf I ever played, and then finished second the next
event at our home event with and it was the
other thing was at the peak of COVID, so you
couldn't get chefts and grips shipped to from overseas, so
I was kind of playing with some stock stuff or
like used my teenage driver putter. But it kind of
gave me like a different outlook on golf.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
And just like you know, like.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Like I said at the end of the answers, golf,
that's kind of like the model that I played by.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
But yeah, then that fast forward into I went from
a you know.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
A five six guy on the lineup to playing one
the next year and playing and I never missed an
event after that, So it was kind of like.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
A like I said, it was probably the biggest blessing in
disguise I could have had.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
But it really kind of jump started my golf career
at Penn State because I don't think I would have finished,
you know, third on our scoring list if I hadn't,
if that may not have happened to me.

Speaker 8 (16:11):
So it's wow, I kind of forget about COVID and
here just different experiences and obviously how it affected your
collegiate golf experience, it's wild.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
Yeah, it was a it was an interesting experience definitely.

Speaker 7 (16:23):
So Patrick, what's next for you?

Speaker 8 (16:25):
Are we gonna focus on Monday or you know, mini
tour things like something else?

Speaker 7 (16:30):
What do we got going on?

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, still still doing the mini stores, the mini tour stuff.
I mean, the minor league is great down here to
be able to play, you know, pretty consistently each week.
I have a couple of Monday qualifiers in the future
that I'm looking for. I signed up for the Putakana one,
so that's the next one on on my plate. But yeah,
the minor leagues and yeah, it's such great competition down here,

(16:55):
even like you know, you're not you're not winning a
bunch of money, but like just the competition you you
really can't beat. And I don't think people know about
it enough.

Speaker 6 (17:04):
Just how good of.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Players that there are down here. I think one of
the other guys that plays minor league, Dawson Jones, he
just qualified for the Puerto Rican Open this week, So
I mean it's they usually have great fields and great competition.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
So happy to keep that up.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
But hopefully you can get into some more Mondays and
maybe travel some too as well.

Speaker 7 (17:24):
Will you try to qualify in any corn events or
are we just focused on the Yeah?

Speaker 6 (17:27):
No, no, definitely, Like this is also new to me.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
It really didn't know how the transition from amateur to
pro golf work. And like the cognit was my first Monday.
Like I was going to do the corn Ferry ones.
Yeah I take good batting average, I guess, but yeah,
I was gonna do the corn Fairy ones in January,
just just wasn't playing well with my gay after coming

(17:51):
off a winner and going up north. But happy where
it's at now. So yeah, trying to find as many
as I can and see what I can do with
my schedule and stuff.

Speaker 7 (18:01):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Well, now I know you've been over to the Sofi
Center a few times, you know, give us your impressions
of you. Were you an indoor golf fan to begin
with or because this is totally different indoor golf, just
give us your impressions of the TGL and the Sofi Center.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah, it's the first time I walked in. It was
It's pretty unbelievable walking in for the first time. And
when I walked in in late late November, it was,
I mean it was still under construction. I was like,
how are they going to get this done? But they
did and they had people working, you know, countless hours.
But you know, before practicing inside up at Penna State,

(18:37):
I was I was never a fan of indoor golf,
just because I always struggled to aim into especially with
driver and you know three wood and longer clubs, because
like I usually play like a you know, a decent
cut that kind of lowered it now, but like I
always struggled with the aiming part, and I get frustrated,
just like because you know, we'd have competitions or something

(18:58):
up at school and I would stink in the driving category.
Yet I felt like I was almost the best driver
on the team outside and I get a little frustrated
with that. But then the TGL Sofi Center, you know,
being thirty five yards away from this big screen and
get this nice view of where you can almost you know,
play the drawler, play the cut. I was like, you know,
this is this is a lot of fun and it's

(19:18):
almost like it felt like a big video game. And
like it was nice because there was like a lot
of other Mini Tour guys that would do it, so
it would be pretty competitive when we did do.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
The matches, so that was kind of a cool thing.
And just the.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Technology is crazy with the green and you know how
good the turf is you know, it's not real grass,
but you know it's about as good a turf as
you could ever want to chip on and be really
very realistic. So it's been it's been cool to be
a part of that. And definitely I don't think I've
missed a match since I've started, since it started, so
I really do enjoy watching it and I think it

(19:52):
is a good concept.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
What about Tiger asking for chicken finger last night, Sure.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
That was pretty funny.

Speaker 8 (19:58):
Definitely really like, no these are mind I got a
real quick take it back to Penn State though, talk
about like the facilities up there. I know one of
my clients who's within the golf industry said, I believe
and I maybe incorrect here, but they have one of
the most advanced like golf training facilities and even with

(20:18):
like the AI technology and things like that that they're
looking into.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
Just kind of talk about that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, So we are very blessed to have such a
good uh PGM program up at Penn State and that
draws in, you know, hundreds of kids to go to school.
My first four years, we didn't really do too much
with them, but then my last year we actually like
their GTRC that we kind of went in and you

(20:44):
put it, I forget what it's gonna put on this
black suit and could analyze our swing. So I think
they're really starting to take more advantage of that now,
which is good.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
But yeah, it's tough to being.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
A northern school trying to compete with all these Southern
schools that can play, and that was kind of the
big challenge, even though we do go south so much.
But I think one of the things that they are,
I think we're starting to do is going to build
a new facility just for the golf team men's and
women's to add on to ours. So that could that
could be a big boost for the program moving forward

(21:16):
for sure.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
All Right, so we have to try to maybe get
you in trouble here. You know, you're down in Florida.
You meet someone new and they say, oh, you're from
the Philly area. What's the best golf course up there?
What's your answer?

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Uh, Well, my favorite golf course is probably Marion. It
just when I played it in the State Am, even
though I had an unfortunate.

Speaker 6 (21:38):
Loss to a hole out on the last hole, it.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Was it really stuck out to me just how green
everything was and how you know, it's not a long
golf course, but it's it's about as challenging as it
can get. But a sleeper course, I would say, is
that not talk about as enough as White Marsh Valley.
That's that's that's one of my favorite places around for sure.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
It's that's going to make some people very happy. Love
to hear that, and love to hear that. Well listen, man,
thank you for coming on. We'll be following along continued success. Yeah,
really cool to see you know what you did and
now what you're going to turn this into.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
So yeah, look the rest of the way.

Speaker 6 (22:15):
Thank you, guys, I really appreciate being on.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
You got it.

Speaker 7 (22:19):
Thanks Patrick.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
All Right, let's take a quick break and we will
be right back. All right, welcome back to Swing It
and Ding. It great to talk to Patrick Sheen. And
that was like a that was a crazy story in
our area that hit all at once. When when someone
like that Monday cues and yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Mean I can't imagine.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
You know, he seems like a pretty calm and level dude,
which is probably a huge reason reason for his success.
But man, that's got to be, like he said, a whirlwind.
I think that's the perfect word to describe what that
must feel like.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
Oh yeah, and Philly's just so passionate about sports.

Speaker 8 (22:55):
So even if we don't know exactly who it is,
we just see that he's, you know, from Pennsylvania. We're like,
let's go auto fans, and you know, it's just he
has he he kind of you know, said he had
a bunch of his friends following him so awesome, excited
to follow his journey.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I know when I was texting trying to get
him on the show, he didn't respond for about two
or three days, and he comes back and says, Oh,
I'm really sorry, man, my phone just absolutely blew up.
I'm just getting through all these messages, you know. But
then you know, we worked it out to come on.
But yeah, I can't imagine, Harry, how.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
Did you go about getting his how'd you go about
getting his phone number?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well, you know, I got some people.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
It's funny because Greeney Greene hit me up because he's
a buddy of his Scotti. His brother and Patrick are
like really good friends. So he had sent me the
you know that he got in and then we're, you know,
we're trying to get him on, but we were trying
to get him on last week, but I'm glad we
did it.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
I would have felt bad if we would have tried
to get him on Tuesday night.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (23:51):
Hey, you know you just had like the longest two
days of your life, right, Why don't you give us
thirty minutes your death?

Speaker 6 (23:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Good?

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Good on him to turn out good stuff.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
So let's talk about the Cognizant where Patrick mondayqued into
Joe Highsmith, makes the cut by one and wins it
first time since Brent Snedecker at the twenty sixteen Farmers
and also the eighteenth left handed player to win a
PGA Tour event.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah about that?

Speaker 7 (24:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah, But I mean, you know, I was watching a
lot of this on Sunday, and you know the Jake Napp,
what a what a tournament, what a wild tournament for him?
Gets a fifty nine opening round.

Speaker 7 (24:27):
Like I can't even swallow when you talk.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
About it, ends up T six and with a triple
on eleven.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
Yep, where I don't know, I don't know if you have.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
It more experienced caddy, do they say hang on Like,
I don't know, har what do you think about that scenario?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
I don't know but my buddies and I talk about
this all the time that when we see this happen,
and it happens, you know, periodically every week by two
different players. And it's our contention that the caddies are
afraid to sort of speak up a lot of times
because they don't want to get fired, okay, and they
don't want they don't want to say, hey, what are
you doing here, man, like let's do this, and you know,

(25:04):
the players like, yo, just caddy carry the bag and
then they're fired, you know what I mean, Like they
don't want to speak up. Danielle, I'm sure you can offer,
you know, better insight into this way.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
That's what we say.

Speaker 8 (25:16):
It's the it's one of the most Caddying is one
of the most uncomfortable things in the world. And you know,
I said, it's probably one of the hardest jobs in
the world. If add rain to that, you know, to
the day that you're looping, it is hands down the
hardest job in the world. Like I just I remember
being out there like trying to keep all the clubs dry,
trying to like make sure they're good.

Speaker 7 (25:36):
It's just it's really tough. And Harry, you I think you.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
Nailed it with saying like, you know, like what if
you're about to say something here on the pod, I'm like, well, wait, Harry,
maybe you should say it like this.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
You know, i'd say it because I don't care if
I get fired, but I would say it. I'd go
down swinging like this is a stupid move. Take an
extra club, hit the middle of the green. Let's make
parts not a birdie hole, and let's go to twelve.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
And it's interesting how how how it varies out there.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Right.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
You have guys have professional caddies that have been doing
this for years, and you have guys who have kind
of like their friends or bodies that they just feel
comfortable with because they need a friendly out there, which
is great.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
It keeps it that keeps it good for them mentally.

Speaker 8 (26:10):
But then we just heard Patrick say, oh my god,
how am I going to get this yardage? And thankfully
his guy had that knowledge, you know, to walk it
off properly, because if I'm on your bag, I'm keeping
your clubs clean, I'm telling great jokes. I generally know
how to walk off the yardage. But it's going to
be a real loose like yeah, we're like what you know,

(26:31):
one doing is like you know, my my my steps
might not be exact. So you know, I think there
is a benefit to having a happy medium of the two,
you know, having your brother or your best friend or
somebody on the bag like we you know MAV's brother,
but I'm sure his golf i Q is you know
up there? So yeah, yes, I think you're you kind

(26:52):
of hit that correct hip with that hair.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
You know, you're afraid to speak up, you know. I
remember being on the bag and being like, don't hit
driver here, like you know you're gonna be on into
no matter what. Just lay up and you know. But
sometimes I.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Just when I'm caddying my wife around, I'm like, who
do you think you are here on a soren stamp?
Put that club back and get this one, you know,
Like that's the way I roll.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
That's why I like, you know, when I play in
events with Greeny, he he could tell me, Moose, what
are you doing, Like, yeah, you're not hitting that shot here,
and I'll just hand me down the club. Okay, Yeah
you got it, thank you.

Speaker 8 (27:28):
Like pin hunting, every time Brendan's like where are you aimed,
I'm like at the pen He's like, no, it's tucked right,
like you got a green this big like aim Laught
and I'm like, why, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
It's gonna get up there somewhere. Yeah, and he wants to.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Pull that money driver and you can't find it because
it's not in the bag.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
I just did purchase a new driver. The driver driver
I went.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
I went with my Golf Spy's number one, the cowwa
U triple Diamond.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
We're gonna talk to somebody from my Golf Spy. Probably
like six years ago or something. I actually, like, you know,
typed in for I was like, yeah, like I'll demo
some clubs or whatever. They sent me this like Putter
and I had like my Golf Spy logos on the bottom.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
I still have it. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, it's quite the organization they have there.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
I would love to talk to those guys and just
see how that how that started and you know, it
came up. It came up and we had Johnny Wonder
on a couple weeks ago. How that was a huge story.

Speaker 8 (28:19):
So yeah, because they test everything all the time, Like
if there's any golf gadget in the world, like they're
testing it, yep, and they're letting real people test it,
give honest feedback.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
So it's awesome.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
I love what they're doing there.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
So back to the cognizant Harry Joe high Smith gets
to win speak again with it with a good finish
at Team nine.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
What else stood out to you from the weekend?

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well, I mean, you know high Smith, I remember watching
him a few years ago at Pepperdine. You know, you
had the hat on then, and uh, we know it's
one of these up you know, up and coming guys
who has developed a friendship with Fred Couples over the years,
and Couples I've heard him say recently before he won
that he thinks high Smith is a top fifty player
in the near near future and that's pretty glowing praise yet.

(29:01):
Joelacava Junior on the bag of course, Joela Cava used
to caddy for Fred Couples and Tiger Woods and is
now with Patrick Cantley, so you know, it's kind of
it's kind of cool seeing this next generation, you know,
not only player but caddy come through.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
He goes back to.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Back sixty fours on the weekend after making the cut
on the number. I mean, it's just, you know, in
a golf course that wasn't ferocious the first two days
because there wasn't any wind. But you know, Saturday and
Sunday the wind started to pick up and it took
its toll on. You know, Taylor Montgomery had to lead
for a while on Saturday and blew up on the
fifteenth hole. That was carnage. We talked about Jake Knapp's carnage.

(29:39):
I mean, you know, there was there's bogies everywhere out there.
You know, when the wind is up in High Smith,
you know, he's just he's just cruising right through Man
and who knows. They talk about floodgates opening all the
time on the Golf channel, and I make fun of
it all the time, but you know, who knows. I
mean this, this this young guy might be one of
these guys that at the end of the year were
Sam Man.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
He's got three.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
They love talking about, you know, after winter going to
fill the trophy case exactly, Yeah, because many tales of
trophy case fillers that were one and done.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
It's a tough.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Sport, man, It's enough to get back to the top,
and sometimes I feel like it gets tough. I think
it's tougher for some people when they win I know
it sounds crazy, but it's like, yeah, you have this
expectation and you change your game a little bit.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
It seems right.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
But I felt bad for Taylor Montgomery and he's a
great putter. He needed to finish T thirteen or better
to reach the top one twenty five because he's on
a medical extension, and he didn't do it because you know,
you had a triple bogie on a quadruple bogey excuse
me on Saturday at the fifteenth a quad and then

(30:44):
he makes triple on Sunday at sixteen. So the bear
trap really took its toll from him.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, it ate him up. But the great story too
outside of high Smith was Luke Clanton.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yeah, even the cut? How cool was that on Friday?
This is why cuts are cool.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
You know, you just see a guy making the cut
on the number goes on to win, and another guy
making the cut is now a pro whenever his college
career comes to an end this later this spring.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's pretty neat.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah, cool, Yeah, no doubt about it. Great event, great finish, right,
it's good to see. I mean some people were like
to rip the leaderboard. It's funny.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
We talked about speed.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
How about Speace's.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Quote because he didn't get into Arnold Palmers. I guess
I had a play better injured golf.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Yep, yeah, yep, wow. Yeah about the shots fire Ricky Filer.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Ricky Fowler didn't get in either.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Right right? Who had some success there? So all right,
let's roll into some tea.

Speaker 8 (31:38):
Yeah, well, let's start it off with Harry was just
mentioning Fred Couples.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
I feel like he might he might be somebody.

Speaker 8 (31:45):
Yeah, we might have to have him come on and
he take over my job with spilling the tea. Because
he said that Brookes Brooks wants to return to the
BGA Tour from liv Golf and he goes. He said
this to Seattle's kJ R ninety three point three FM
on Monday.

Speaker 7 (32:00):
I talked to Brooks Kepka all the time.

Speaker 8 (32:02):
I love Brooks Kepta, and I'm not going to say
anything extra except I talked to him all the time.

Speaker 7 (32:06):
Okay, you're not going to say anything extra.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
Except he did. He said Brooks wants to come back.
I will say that. I believe he really wants to
come back and play on the door. So he said
he wasn't going to say anything. He talks to him
all the time. But he said he wants to come back.
So we'll see if Fred's just you know, spilling some tea,
if there's actual, you know, there's actually some validity.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
To this, and then if he bottle right, oh.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
No, I not.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Let me see if I can find it real quick
while we're talking, because basically it was like, you know,
if that did happen, uh huh. I mean, I'm trying
to find it, so I don't want to miscote him,
but it was basically like you just broke a you know,
a friend's trust, and if it didn't happen, you know,
basically ripped him. I'm I'm making sure it was actually filed.

(32:54):
It's not coming up in his tweets.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
But it was.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
His tweets are very political lately.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
Yeah, I he may he may have pulled it down,
but there was definitely a rebuttal.

Speaker 8 (33:03):
From but right like, I'm telling my friend something and
I'm like, all right, you know, like just general conversation.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
All of a sudden, you're going on the you know,
the radio station. You're like, hey, actually Harry Mays does
a B and C.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Right, Yeah, come on, I wouldn't necessarily appreciate that, even
if it was from Fred Couples.

Speaker 7 (33:22):
But yeah, that's why I said when I heard you,
oh here it is here?

Speaker 6 (33:25):
It does I have?

Speaker 4 (33:26):
He says.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
If it's not true, he damaged the relationship which he
cares about. If it is true, he took away Brooks'
control of the timeline and narrative. Either way, this is
a low class jerk move by Fred.

Speaker 7 (33:37):
Wow, low class jerk move.

Speaker 8 (33:40):
Okay, No, but you know I keep it honest out here.
I'd be upset too if that's my friend. I'm telling
you something, keep it, you know, and then you're sharing it.

Speaker 7 (33:48):
Well, let's keep on that topic.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
So Bryson has been the source of Internet speculation, with
recent rumor suggesting he's looking to return to the BGA
Tour after his contract expires reportedly in twenty twenty six,
and that he turned down a proposal for a new contract.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
However, he was asked about it in media recently and
he said, no, I'm very excited about the future of
Live Golf. I'm very excited to be.

Speaker 8 (34:10):
The captain of the Crushers and continue our legacy that
we're starting to create. That's my goal to create this
lasting legacy where we impact millions and millions of dolvers.

Speaker 7 (34:20):
Lives around the world.

Speaker 8 (34:22):
Yes, yeah, that should and he said he closed it
and said that should tell you everything you should know. However,
one of the comments I saw on on Instagram with
regarding this post was somebody said, yeah, it's basically essentially
the same words he said about staying with the PGA tour. Right,
So we'll see. We'll see if Rooksie and Bryson are

(34:45):
renewing contracts, if they're coming back, they're not, what's going on?

Speaker 7 (34:49):
Who knows?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
I Meanwhile, Brison says this doing media for the Live
Hong Kong event in Hong Kong.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
At the event, like, what's he going to say?

Speaker 7 (34:58):
What's gonna say? Actually, you know, I'm out the door
that see you guys later. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
He has to love the fact that that rumor got
out there because that, to him, gives him negotiating power
with you would think the piff, right, you would think, right.

Speaker 8 (35:15):
Yeah, Plus gives him some more views, make you a
little extra cash, some more on his socially, the content
he wins everywhere.

Speaker 7 (35:22):
Everywhere, all areas of life.

Speaker 8 (35:25):
All right, I don't know if you guys saw this,
but there was a video clip of Nelly Quarter practicing
in the rain, like getting pelted with rain dropped, and
JT commented, we do this for a living. Nelly go inside, like,
get out of the rain. There's no reason to be
out there. Did you guys see that?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see it. But you know, maybe
she doesn't like indoor golf.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
You know, she wants to feel the elements like I
did this past Saturday.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
You got to play in him sometimes.

Speaker 7 (35:50):
Actually, I did you know I might have heard this,
you know, from Cooch. Might not have Harry.

Speaker 8 (35:56):
Harry said, ohit, hold on a second, Oh, never mind,
disregard that. Sorry, I'm getting distracted by a phone call.
All right, Moving on Rory in the media on the
live PGA at the Arnold Palmer. It takes two sides
to tango. If one side is willing and ready and
the other isn't, it sort.

Speaker 7 (36:14):
Of makes it tough.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
And then he also said they're a billion dollars would
be nice too. I you know, Rory's probably hurting for money.
And he also said, hey, I'm not this, this isn't
my job. I'm not I'm not the person not supposed
to be, you know, negotiating these type of deals, so
you know, not that that's anything breaking, kind of hearing actually.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Being tired of being asked about it, you know, for every.

Speaker 7 (36:39):
Media, but we're kind of being tired of hearing about it.

Speaker 8 (36:41):
I know, I've said this probably eighteen times during the
last twenty episodes that we've recorded. Is I don't really
want to hear about it unless there's actual breaking news.
You know, it's like, Okay, Donald Trump's fixing it now,
and hey, this is happening, and then that's happening. But
it's we're I mean, if we are any step closer,
we're not aware.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
So until there's something, keep it moving.

Speaker 8 (37:03):
Yeah, Harry, he could have been more famous than you
already are, but you didn't go to the Happy Gilmore
casting golf so we will not see you on July
twenty fifth, when Heavy Gilmour releases. Unfortunately, but I don't know,
like Space Jam incredible, and then we have Lebron Space

(37:24):
Jam like I.

Speaker 7 (37:26):
Feel like this, you know.

Speaker 8 (37:28):
Yeah, it's like I'm hoping, I'm hoping it's decent, but.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
They tried to make a couple extra caddy shacks and.

Speaker 7 (37:36):
Yeah, just didn't do it.

Speaker 8 (37:38):
Yeah, I agree, yeah, but I got to give a
shout out to my senior marketing manager, Alex.

Speaker 7 (37:44):
I was looking a little bit.

Speaker 8 (37:47):
Actually wasn't actually watching Netflix, but I saw on Instagram
a clip where she's actually in full swing. She's, uh,
we work with the MIA's Miracles and she was on
site for Mother's Day for their five K this past year,
and you see her on camera like with our you
know camera shooting content of Camilla and she's on there.
So I saw last night a screenshot. I was like, Alex,

(38:08):
your famous. So I thought that was a that was
pretty cool but very cool. Also cool Moose, you do
this with our outing brand and I do with our tournament,
you know, find ways to get back and help children.
So always cool to recognize people who are doing things
like that. Justin and Kate Rose were just honored with
the Arny Award for giving back to children's causes.

Speaker 7 (38:29):
So yeah, pretty cool, very cool through and through.

Speaker 8 (38:32):
Yeah, Scottie Scheffler, he beat his buddy, who was I'm
sorry he lost his buddy beat him who was a
ten handicap, But he talked about like just how fun
the game is, Like, hey, you can give some strokes,
you know, you can gamble, you make it fun and
just kind of talking about how cool the game of
golf is in general.

Speaker 7 (38:52):
I don't know if you guys saw it at all.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
I mean, it's really really talking about ten handicap like
it's the end.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, it's a make a wish situation. It may it
kind of hurt my feelings. I know he's world number one,
but I'm like Scott.

Speaker 8 (39:07):
But it's funny because this isn't the first time, like
Scotty has talked about just like not a lot in
golf rounds, like with his buddies. You're like, yeah, yeah,
oh that's that's an epic story.

Speaker 7 (39:18):
Yeah, good one. Yeah yeah. He's like no, I just
you know, will them home back or whatever?

Speaker 8 (39:22):
But yeah, it's kind of cool to see here's got
to talk about slumbing it.

Speaker 7 (39:27):
So maybe we can get moose around with them.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Yeah yeah, I don't know if you have the TGL story, Danielle,
which one with U Rory and the New York Golf Club.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
Let's hear it?

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Well, they went at it the other night, and of
course I watch all these matches, right and uh Rory
missed a very short putt in one of them, you know,
one of the holes against New.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
York Golf Club and if New York Golf Club won.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Which they ended up doing, they guarante they qualified for
the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
And Rory's team obviously he's out. They didn't win one
match this year. Rory's team crazy, he misses this short putt.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
And whoever handled the Twitter feed for the New York
Golf Club, I thought it was me because they brought
up they referenced Pinehurst like all of us, you know,
I didn't think this was going to turn into Pinehurst. Well,
I forget the exact quote, but it was brilliant and
I think they've taken it down now. I don't know
if they felt bad afterwards some buyer's remorse, or if

(40:27):
Rory asked them to take it down, or Rory's people
asked them to take it down, but it's down and
I thought that was very interesting or Tiger m Yeah.

Speaker 8 (40:37):
But you know what I think, it's it's more fun
when you have stuff like that, exactly what I mean.

Speaker 7 (40:42):
I like this is going back.

Speaker 8 (40:44):
I don't know how many years ago I was working
with the American Cornhole League. They were one of our clients,
and they start out with like zero followers and I
was like, let me take over Twitter, and people would
be like, oh cornhole on ESPN, like this is stupid,
and I'm like, what you don't want to see like
crocs and people with six teeth know. And I made
it like fun and like relatable and people like love
just like the witty banter I use like on Twitter

(41:06):
to just like, you know, be light, make fun of yourself,
like have some fun, throw out some you.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Know kind of So are you responsible for getting us
over three thousand Instagram followers?

Speaker 7 (41:16):
I wouldn't say that that's my doing.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
I think Josh Allen is thanks.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
Josh oh okay, he.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Was there the other night. It was.

Speaker 8 (41:24):
Yeah, but yeah, we will be stepping up our our
swing and doing it social. That's right, yes, yes, But
let's stay on the topic of TGL. So golf di
just put out he goes or they said, as tgl's
inaugural season wraps up, how would you rate the league?
So I love the Internet and share some of these responses.
This was an all time one for me. Get them

(41:46):
drunk and involve John Daily.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
I like that.

Speaker 7 (41:50):
Oh great? Would that be right?

Speaker 6 (41:52):
Yea?

Speaker 8 (41:53):
Another person said Kissner joink Off. The flagstick was My
favorite moment. What about Tom Kim last night with like this,
you know, the look away thinking he made the putt?
Oh yeah, wait are you guys picking this up?

Speaker 7 (42:05):
He wanted to do last night.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I was celebrating it and it didn't go in.

Speaker 8 (42:08):
He didnt hands out like I think he like threw
the butter and then you know, I think we saw
some Tiger crying again from laughing so hard and him
and hom up.

Speaker 7 (42:18):
So I thought that was kind of funny.

Speaker 8 (42:20):
I mentioned it a little bit earlier with Patrick on,
but Tiger going up to Charlie and being like.

Speaker 7 (42:25):
What is that chicken fingers? He's like, thrown me one.

Speaker 8 (42:27):
Charlie's like what, He's like, throw me a chicken finger
like just all time dad moment.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
I thought that was so cool, just like.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
You always got to take chicken fingers.

Speaker 8 (42:36):
Yeah, and you see Kai Trump sitting right there too,
just taking it in.

Speaker 7 (42:39):
That was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
And don't forget that.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Remember when Tiger they told him it was ninety nine
the distance and he thought they meant like ninety nine yards,
so he hit like some sort of really longing wedge.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
And it was one.

Speaker 8 (42:53):
Yeah, you know, why didn't see that in golf though,
like I don't know, maybe I'm I've been missing something.
But you know a lot of times, like if it
is one Nday night, usually be like ninety nine, and
I'm like, okay, well it's like eighty seven and it's
one eighty seven.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
Why is there? Do you guys?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Wife gets that she understands.

Speaker 7 (43:08):
Now, well I know the reason why, but just why?

Speaker 8 (43:11):
I mean, I guess you can clearly tell, like on
a real course if it's eighty seven or one eighty seven,
But what is the purpose? Why are we just you know,
it's so much work to say one in front of
the you know, we got to conserve our voices. Like
I don't know if anybody knows, let me know because
I don't know, all right, so wait what We'll give
like one more of these? So someone did say I

(43:31):
love it golf on weeknights during a slower sports cycle
in a team format. Great recipe to grow the game
person and then one other person personally.

Speaker 7 (43:40):
I don't believe it's been great.

Speaker 8 (43:41):
Watching I can see that watching it live in person
would be a great event, but I haven't been able
to get into it on TV. So we have some
people with different views and you know, interesting to see
how it kind of trends.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, I think it's really good. I've enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
It's given me something to watch, like they Extra or
whatever said Monday and Tuesdays you know kind of stink
during the winter.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Yeah, it's giving me something to watch. And now we
got playoffs coming up.

Speaker 8 (44:08):
Should be well that's why last week, you guys said,
I was like, sell it to me, tell me why.
So last night I was like, okay, let's put it on.
Like and like I said, I don't really watch a
ton of TV, so to put it on. I was
kind of multitasking watching, but I was entertained by you know,
Tiger Tom Kim, like just in the banter and just
humanizing these guys a little bit.

Speaker 7 (44:26):
You know. I don't think I'm going to, like, you know, manipulate.

Speaker 8 (44:29):
My schedule around watching it, but if it's on and
I'm available, I think I'll continue to tune in a
softly yep.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
All right, let's go to the Arnold Palmer Invitational, a
right signature event. We just talked about it, Bayhill. This
is when things get serious, a right Harry, wouldn't you say?

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
This is, you know, the Florida Swing and getting closer
and closer to the first major of the year. We
got the players next week, but this is a great
one this week. The Bayhill Club and Lodge designed by
Dick will Elson back in nineteen sixty one and Arnold
Palmer has done some redesigns, most notably the one in
two thousand and nine. But at par seventy two seventy

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four hundred and sixty six yards pretty long.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
They've got four par fives.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Four and six on the front and on the back
is twelve and sixteen, four par threes two and seven
on the front and fourteen and seventeen on the back.
Average green size seventy five hundred square feet, so big
greens and their tiff eagle Bermuda grass on the greens.
The fairways approaches in rough are a rye overseed with

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three inch rough so it's going to look really nice
and green fairways are kind of generous as in.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Most Arnold Palmer type of golf course is.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Thirty yards wide on average, a little bit wider than normal.
Eighty four bunkers and eight water hazards, but water is
in play on half of the holes. Nine holes waters
in play. The big change this year is there's no
more beach bunker on seventeen, the par three, which are
really hard par three, they've turned it into a grass
bank now and the final three holes are where all

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the drama really is.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
All those some great holes on the front too, But the.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Sixteenth is a very reachable par five, only five hundred
and eleven yards. The big bunker on the right side
of the fairway catches its share of balls off the tee.
The approach is to a slightly offset green with water
in the front and on the short left side bunker's front,
back and right. Seventeen I told you about the redesign.
It's a tough par three two hundred and twenty yards

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all over water to a large oblong green with bunkers
left and long. You miss this green makes for a
really difficult up and down. Eighteenth a par four four
hundred and fifty eight yards with a narrow fairway and
a pond encroaching off the right. Approach to a narrow
kidney shaped green with a rock wall and water all

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down the right side and three bunkers surround the left side.
You remember some of these great shots coming into the
one Arnold Palmer of which you're.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Gonna see a million times.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Oh yeah, this week where he cuts and he hits
his nice low cut and it runs right onto the
green and gets real close is Tiger Woods. Has had
some brilliant finishes and all his wins at this golf course.
So sixteen, seventeen and eighteen is a lot of drama.
They're going to be high numbers because the wind is up.
I just saw where Ludwig Oberg is tied for seventh

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and he's plus one already through two holes at a
lot of bogies today and his golf nickname I just
got texted golf Lundron.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
How great is that for Ludfig Oburg.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Wow, that's pretty great.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Wow, that's really It's one of my buddies just sent
me that.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
And you know, really windy at bay Hill, but it's
not windy at the Penn Club. On second, it's still
time to get part of that four month membership and
get yourself.

Speaker 7 (47:45):
Can you play Bayhill there?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Golf? I'm not sure I haven't done it yet.

Speaker 8 (47:49):
I'm sure get over there and get it, you know,
get around in and show us, show us some content.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Xander, how about Xander back since back with a rib injury.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
You got Scotty defending who won by five. So you
have Scotty, have Hideyama in twenty three Bryson won this.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
It's funny to talk about him.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Rory in twenty eighteen to Rory as nine starts here,
six in the top ten. Yeah, and sun Jay has
six starts here. His worst was a T twenty one,
and he's got a big juicy number when we see
the line at six thousand.

Speaker 7 (48:22):
So who'd you take in the one and done?

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Moose? I took Maverick.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Actually I took Henley.

Speaker 5 (48:29):
I took your favorite Rory, not saving him for the
Master's interesting.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Interesting, Yeah right, yeah, I took Henley. Obviously, Rory, Scheffler, Cantley,
and j T were the big picks on the one
and Dunepool, which there was some confusion because it's a
site dropped the app. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 7 (48:51):
I was log in and do it the whole fashion way.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
So I woke up to these texts from a buddy
of mine. He's ship eighty seven on the pool. Okay,
I can't get into my account. Can you get me
into my account if I give you my pick? Can
you invite me into the pool again?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
I don't know what the f is going on? Forget
all the threats. I finally got on this crooked pool.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Take that back. You need to reinvite me to this
crooked pool. And then he goes just stay in bed.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I figured it out that he's.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
An extra the roller Coaster of emotions exactly this.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
I went to bed at eight thirty last night. This
is what I missed. Stay in bed.

Speaker 7 (49:36):
It's crooked pool.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Crooked that's Scott Duke is his name?

Speaker 4 (49:40):
Oh yeah, Duke.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
I always like seeing like the tournament odds and seeing
like the top three in the disparity when Scotty's playing well.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
So I checked this morning.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
It was two eighty, Scottie seven fifty Rory and then
Oberg sixteen hundred. I always love seeing that drop off.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Yeah, how far?

Speaker 5 (49:56):
Then it's like then most guys are at fourteen sixteen
hundred usually, But interesting when Scott he's in a tournament
where they think he's gonna win.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
How that messes up the odds?

Speaker 7 (50:04):
Ye, well he just lost to a ten handicap. If
that tells you, Yeah, he's.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Hurting right now.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
He's Puerto Rico Open is also this.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Kevin Roy was one of the top choices at plus
twenty five hundred. I think he was the second choice,
tied for the second choice.

Speaker 7 (50:20):
I saw him at the Cognizant. Yeah, we got to
get him back.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
On hits It straight man and then Live over in
Hong Kong. Ram of course is the favorite. And Nieman
and de Chambeau or do.

Speaker 7 (50:31):
You guys watch any live well.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Now the time change is so screwed up carry Wood.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah, it doesn't go off until about eleven thirty to night,
or I would well, I.

Speaker 7 (50:40):
Know, we got to wrap everyone's on a tight thing.
I need to just drop one more thing real quick.

Speaker 8 (50:45):
Since we're Philly based Pine Valley Walker Cup, we might
have to wait until twenty forty four. It's still iconic, nonetheless,
so hope we'll return there for the third time.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
They were saying the people playing in it aren't born yet,
which is interesting.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
Yeah, some of the most of them.

Speaker 8 (50:59):
All they open it and maybe they open it up
to females, and I just you know, Vienna, just wake up,
come on, get out there and make some funds.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
There you go, all right, great stuff.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Thank you to Patrick Sheen for joining us continue looking
forward to seeing what he can do. Seems like he's
got the talent and the mindset, so it's awesome to see.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
All right, we'll be.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Back next week to see what happened at the Arnold Palmer.
Thanks for listening to listen, swing it and ding it.