11.11: SALUTE - Hour 1

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning and welcome in. It is Coffee and Company
and we are field by Thornton's here at News Radio
eight forty whas. It is five oh six. We are
roughly fifteen hours away from tipping off the big game tonight.
We'll talk a lot about that today, of course, Louisville
and Kentucky round two of Pat Kelsey versus Mark Pope. Also,

(00:20):
it's Veterans Day, so we'll talk a lot about that
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We've got once again the trio, myself included Scot fitz
Joe alongside John Shannon. He'll have news for you coming

(00:43):
up in about twenty five minutes or so. And when
I say this every morning, I mean it, but I
really mean it. Today we've got a busy, busy, busy
busy show a lot to run down. The government shutdown
is coming to an end as the Senate has approved
the bill to end this shutdown. Five Finally, also a
wild story yesterday that just I guess really, isn't that

(01:05):
surprising in the grand scheme of things. But you have
a Texas man that's been indicted for making threats to
Jeff brom Jeff Brohm's family, and Louis of A quarterback
Miller Moss. Most are trying to connect some dots to
see this is maybe somebody just doing something you know,
awful because they made a wager that didn't win. But

(01:25):
that is that is not something you used to see,
but maybe now this is the new norm with sports
betting being so popular throughout the country. Really, I mean
think about where sports betting was ten years ago here
in the States in where it is now. I mean
it was really it's really just Vegas like ten years ago.
Now it's everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, from You're spot on with that, Nick, and that
is becoming a big prom ESPN address this earlier this
year that started the football season, that players are getting
heckled now at games especially it's happened a lot in
the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
So that's different than this though.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Oh I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
No, I told understand, no, I get it. You know,
same church, different pew. But you know, when people start
losing this kind of crazy money, they start putting it
on these athletes, they're not thinking too clear when they
do that, these athletes and coach I'm saying, they're not
thinking clear putting this on the athletes and coaches like
this gentleman did in Texas, like you said, quite possibly
lost a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
That's what would be the or it's just I mean,
you really never known anybody's motive when it comes to
being an idiot on the internet. Is I mean, the
possibilities are endless as far as what led to somebody
showing the rear end on the internet or actually hiding
and then committing a crime to where only there'd be
a subpoena to get your p address and track you

(02:37):
down and let everybody know you are in fact the
one who is being an idiot. So again, that's just
something you don't typically see. But I can't say I'm
totally stunned when it comes to just the new type
of stories you cover in sports, because gambling is certainly
very prevalent. And I don't say that as somebody that's
against it. I'm for it. I like it, but with it,
of course it's going to come some things like this. Also,

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we are now a week removed from the plane crash
that will be remembered around here for a long time,
and there doesn't seem to be any real big update
since yesterday as far as just the I mean, we
now know that the expectation is that the fourteen people
that have lost their lives, that's going to be it
as far as just the total of victims. But one

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thing I do want to let you guys here a
little bit later on, there was somebody who talked to
wkyre partners that explained sort of the process of truly
getting identification from from these from these victims, depending upon
what their injuries were, and given what we saw with
the crash, the injuries can be, I mean, as devastating

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and severe is is possible. So some of these families
have been told that your loved one, you're missing relative,
you're missing friend, whoever it may be that they're presumed dead.
But the actual process of of of lining up which
victim that was recovered is is who that that's that's

(04:03):
still an ongoing thing that that of course could take
some time. So I would say that that closure has
been has at least a level of closure is there
for the families of these victims. But also maybe maybe
this is an added element that that that for some
maybe actually having the final process of the identification. Maybe

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that's maybe that's that step when it comes to or
maybe it's just an added step. But certainly, uh, we
will keep you updated throughout the entirety of the morning. Again,
I think we're gonna probably stop getting the daily updates. Uh,
as far as just that are really informative, I would say,
more so just any NTSB updates we get. Of course,
that'll be something a lot of folks will be interested

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to hear about. And uh again, when there is any
of those updates, we'll be sure to let you guys know.
But let's get a check of traffic and weather as
we get this morning started. It is cold, in fact,
it is very cold. Gonna warm up a little bit later,
but the sunshine doesn't sound like it's gonna it's gonna
make an appearance very much today, which could lead to
us still staying pretty chilly. So again, it'll warm up,
but right now it is a cool twenty seven degrees,

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so bundle up as you get your Tuesday started, all right,
tracking o weather updates on the way, it's Coffee and Company,
and we are field by Thornton's right here in New's
Radio eight forty whas. So we're now, roughly, i guess,
a little under fifteen hours away from what is one
of the biggest days in sports all year here in
the Commonwealth. And there has been a lot of discussion,
really a lot of complaining about when this game was played,

(05:28):
and some of that complaining came from yours truly, to
be honest with you, but that's out of our control.
There's no point stressing out about things we can't change,
like it or not. The day is here and I'm
ready hopefully you're ready to because ready or not, we're
diving into round two, Pope versus Kelsey, Louisville hosting Kentucky
in a matchup that maybe this number is exaggerated, but

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ninety nine point nine percent of us become lunatics about
this game for a couple of hours, and obviously we
have no control over the outcome. We don't play. I
will not be playing basketball tonight. I will have no
impact on what happens, but that won't keep me from,
I guess, just experiencing everything that comes with with with
this day, and it is awesome. It's it's as I

(06:12):
get older, I can at least have a little perspective
as far as what what makes what makes us different,
what makes us special? Sometimes I say crazy, we are
crazy about college hoops, but it also makes us special,
I think, because I don't know if you really get
this rivalry unless you are here Louisville. I mean you do,
but not to the level of it being really at

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its at its highest level of just intensity. Because there
are so many that that coexist in this city, specifically
that that some some are married to each other, some
are co workers, some are brother and sister. You know,
a lot of times I just think of colleagues that
work together that uh, you know, there's that office or

(06:54):
maybe that warehouse, the workplace banter that has been around
for decades generals. Maybe when it comes to, uh, to
this rivalry, and I wouldn't I wouldn't change anything about
it other than Louisville winning a little more because certainly
that has not happened in recent years. So uh, but
this this feels like a new era and it is,

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I mean, this is it's different now. Louisville fans they
know their program is alive once again, the future is bright,
but you gotta start. You got to start pulling your weight.
There's no doubt about that. Kentucky fans, uh, you know,
they're used to walking in with confidence and and and
winning that. They've done a lot of that. But again,
it's a new era. The John Caliperry factory, the NBA

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factory that is, it's gone. It didn't get outsourced overseas,
it just moved to Arkansas. So you know, the days
of Kentucky having rosters that just are built that put
fear into their opponents. They're still gonna be good. They're
still talented. They've got talented players tonight. But really college
basketball's changed overall as far as guys sticking around playing
the game at the college level for a lot longer

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because you can make a lot of money doing it.
So both fan bases know what's on what's what's on
the line tonight, and we'll see what happens when they
tip it off at eight o'clock. And I don't know
if this rivalry is ever going to get back to
the nastiness of the Patino cal era, because I just
don't think that's possible. But I do think we're we're
entering what could be one of the most competitive chapters

(08:21):
in the history of this rivalry because both teams this
year I believe are good and have a chance to
be really good. I mean, I don't know if we're
talking national championship good, but I think these two teams,
as far as the potential they have the ceiling, they
could be right there with a chance to cut down NETS.
So this year alone, I think both are good and
I don't really see that changing. I think both programs

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are in great hands moving forward and that could end
up with us having again a really competitive era. But
this this will always be a rivalry, and I know
the low hanging fruit when it comes to the rivalry
banter is what what what rivalry? It was in valry? Well, yeah,
I know what you mean. Louisville of course has to
pull their weight. But if there's ever a fan base

(09:03):
that just simply lets their actions speak for themselves, Louisville
is a rivalry because of your obsession with them, and
that goes both ways.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Louisville.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
There's no game on the schedule this year that is
gonna have Louisville fans the way. This one's gonna happen
as far as just the build up, the excitement, the
desperation to get this win. So that's my pet peeve,
is that we need to just retire the notion that well,
I don't even know why we play all home. Yeah
you care, And if you don't, I question if you

(09:36):
actually are a fan. That's a very small minded of
me to look at it that way, because everybody's different.
But I'm just being honest with you. I don't want
to lie to you. If you're a diehard fan of
one of these two and you say that you simply
don't care. This is just like playing you know, a
Popcorn State or whoever else they're gonna play moving forward
when the non conference schedule resumes. That's the way you feel.

(09:57):
That's the way you feel. But behind your back, I'm
talking about Yeah, he's not really fan. Didn't get it,
It's not real. Yeah, whatever, whatever you say, whatever you say.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Do you think it's tougher and a rivalry like this
if you've dominated for so long and then like what
Alabama's going through right now, they of course dominated, Auburn
dominated college football, and then when you come down off
that perch. I mean, every school goes through it this.
I'm just not singling out Alabama. Do you think it's
tougher on the fans in that respect?

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Sometimes too?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
In what way?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Well, just that you're used to always winning and then
you get to that magical point where you're like, hey,
this didn't happen anymore, you know, and you know it's coming,
you feel it.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
It doesn't last forever.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
But if you're used to, like you mentioned, Kentucky would
just come in here and just basically curb stomp Louisville
and then the place would be dominated with blue.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
And that's that may not be the case, although.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, I mean the only time where that happened where
it was lifeless was kid the Kenny Payne era. Yeah,
we're not that far moved from Louisville winning a game
in this one, and it was competitive last year. I mean,
so look, you got winning and losing is all that
really matters. But Kentucky could win this game for ninety
nine consecutive matchups. They'll still have a great level of

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satisfaction beating Louisville for the one hundred time if that
were to happen, because that's just what this is. It's
just different, right, so we'll tip it off tonight on ESPN.
There may be people that find out, Oh yeah, I
haven't tried to watch sports because I don't really watch
a lot of sports, but with this game, it's different.
Let me pop open YouTube TV and look for ESPN.
You won't have it, So you might want to make
some arrangements. If I just if a light bulb just

(11:23):
went off on your head, that could be you maybe
make some maybe make some arrangements. All right, we've got
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(12:04):
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Speaker 2 (12:09):
That's a freebies out there for the vets, no doubt
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Speaker 1 (12:14):
So a story that is still far from usual, but
I guess more than anything, it's it's examples being made
now this day and age by people who do stupid
things on the Internet hiding their identity, not to realize
that whenever you break the law on the Internet, there's
there's a legal way in which to find out who
you are. And that's what happened yesterday as Jeff Brahm

(12:38):
and his family, along with Louisville's Louisvill's Miller Moss, we
were threatened. So this is a why as far as
the overall details of this, I don't know who reported it.
I'm not sure how it ended up getting to the
point where law enforcement got involved. But again that's that's
what happens when you when you do things like this.

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But a Texas man who has been indicted and he's
accused of threatening brom Brohm's family, Brahm's brother Brian Brohm,
offensive coordinator and quarterback Miller Mass. The guy is Brian Mandel.
Six counts of terroristic threatening, one count of attempted theft
by extortion of over ten thousand dollars. So this took

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place following Louisville's loss to California in overtime. So he
has been indicted but not arrested. So no mugshot is
available just yet, and the indictment doesn't give a motive
or further narrative. But this is easy for folks to
track down this Twitter account who seemed to be making
those threats, and there seemed to be some kind of

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an identifying factor as far as knowing this. Okay, yeah,
this is the guy that they were able to determine
who he was. So UVEL has released a statement in
response saying that we were aware of the recent indictment
of an individual who issued threats directed at our football coach,
his wife and kids, members of his coaching staff, and
student athletes. The safety and well being of our students, staff,
and community remain our highest priority. We commend law enforcement

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for their swift and decisive action in addressing this matter.
Threats of violence have no place in our community or
in sports, and we will continue to work closely with
authorities to ensure a safe environment for all. So this
is clearly something you can't do and then be surprised
if you get called out. I mean, I just heat

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of the moment. Stupidity in assuming that you can just
remain if you've been able to remain anonymous online forever
and you just assume, well, hey, I got six followers,
So the chances of anybody even seeing this what I'm
saying on the internet, it will never actually lead to
any consequence for me. Well, this can be used as
an example to show you that, yeah, you better be

(14:48):
careful what it is that you say. And this is
just I mean, stupidity, I think what wagering has done
because it's I would assume that this person fired this off,
because I shouldn't assume. But I'm just down and I'm
not the only one that a bad beat, a loss,
maybe a lot of money was wagered, and that's how

(15:08):
angry this person was. Not to excuse it. But if
that is the case, this is a This is a
different level of as far as the aftermath of sports
betting being very much embedded in how we consume sports
now because if you are upset at a player, like
let me give you an example. Let's say Miller Moss
ended up being the you know, he made a mistake

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that cost Louisville the chance to cover, and somebody on Twitter,
same guy, maybe he tweeted, hey, you suck, Hey, wait
to blow it, and then maybe he sends a screenshot
of his bet that he would have won but he
didn't because of that. Like, I'm not saying people should
do that. I think you look like an idiot if

(15:50):
you do that, but like you're actually like that, I
have no problem with. Like I don't feel as if
like Miller Moss is a victim because somebody did that.
These guys make a lot of money. These guys are
pros now, so like that's going to come things that
you didn't expect Whenever they were just playing for the
love of the game on scholarship, they're playing for the
name on the front. Now, these guys are pro athletes.
These guys are are are paid to be here to play.

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So it's different if you just get insulted by somebody
on the internet because you played bad now when it come.
But again, anybody who does that, they they've got issues,
I would say, I mean, especially if you're getting nasty,
if you're getting personal with somebody that you don't know,
so that that's just to be expected. And that's probably
happened even before sports betting is was as popular as
it is now. But what this guy did, I mean,

(16:34):
he committed a crime. I mean he went a little overboard,
and that that when that happens, you certainly can't be
surprised when you get you get held accountable to, you know,
in a legal way.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Well, and fandom's just becoming a fever pitch now as
we've seen, because we're closer or connected closer via social media.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
It's in our phase twenty four to seven.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
This goes back to we went through this political discourse
years ago when you know, remember back in the days,
and I think you you're part of that generation when
we had news. Our folks sat down, watched the news
for a half hour every day and that was it
and they shut it off. Now you got this stuff
in your face twenty four to seven.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Oh, it's a constant, right.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
And so it just people just stew on it and
stew out and fandom gets crazy and you see it
at stadiums all the time.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
You go to whether you go to Ellen n or
you go to.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
ROP or wherever it is, they say, hey, tech stupid day, YadA,
YadA YadA.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
And actually was watching a cool TikTok video. Someone took
me behind this. It took us behind the scenes of security.
Who does that and how they.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Zoom in, Oh yeah to the troublemakers, which I think
is cool that they're doing that.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
But yet we still see the fight videos that come
out from every game.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, I mean there's always going today tonight, I should
say like you'll see a level of it. May not
be taking anything out on any players tonight as far
as social media nonsense, but just you know, fan is
short for fanatic. And I think you can you can
be fully embedded in what a robbery is and and

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and have a level of emotion and carried carried with you.
That's just not normal, right, Like, none of us have
any impact tonight. It really won't change our lives. But man,
it's going to feel like this is this is such
a big deal. I need this, I want this so bad,
because that's what a rivalry is. You can you can
live in that world and not be deranged, right, you
can and understand that it is not necessarily real. But

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there's some that that that lose, lose the ability to
balance that, and sometimes when they're lost with them, they
do stupid things like commit crimes, terroristic threatening, attempted death
by extortion. So, uh, you know, you could joke about
certain things on the Internet and most will just think
you're joking, you're an idiot, you're a troll, you're hiding
behind a keyboard. But all it takes is somebody to

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actually say, yeah, hey, this I don't know who this is.
There's only three posts from this social media account. There's
no picture, there's no name, but this was said to
me and I'm kind of worried. It's all it takes
for somebody to to to to take you know, to
take to take legal action to an extent, and that's
what happened here. Yeah, all right, let's get to a
quick time out. We've got Rory O'Neil of NBC News
set to join us coming up on the other side.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Stick with us.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Right here, there's Radio eight forty whas. It's News Radio
eight forty whas Coffee and company with you, and we
are field by Thornton's and we are now joined by
Rory O'Neil. Rory. The Senate has approved the bills to
end this shutdown, sending it onto the House. Another big
step in getting this thing completely in the rear view right.
Obviously not totally in the clear just yet, but good progress,

(19:27):
no doubt.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, indeed, and we have Speaker Johnson was on the
networks yesterday saying he plans to bring this up for
a vote tomorrow, so he had already told his members
to get on planes and start getting back to Washington,
d C. Yesterday. I think the guy in Guam has
something like a twenty hour flight to get to California.
Then he has to get to DC. So the call

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had already gone out to get those members back to
be able to vote on this. By the way, the
Gwam guy, I don't think it's a vote officially, by
the way, but yeah, we are on track, and the
White House has signal pre and the Trump will sign
this if it reaches his desk. Again, this only keeps
things open through the end of January, so we could
be in the same position very soon.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
So we found out that there were going to be
funds that were going to the federal judge said funds
were going to have to be used in order to
take care of those that were relying on snap benefits,
but of course weren't getting them. And then we found
out that some states have been told, hey, whatever you did,
you need to reverse it. Do we know the impact
of that as far as just citizens that were in
limbo and not knowing if they're going to be able

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to get help or not.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Well, I mean we've heard from people like the Attorney
General of New York, Letitia James, who said, look, if
that money's in your account and it's on your card,
use it, okay, and take it back if it's declined,
go use it. So the message to people who haven't
on their cards is go ahead, you do what you
gotta do. But you know, and the governments are squabbling.
What we saw was there was a federal District court

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judge who said you got to get the money out there.
So some states pounced and sent it out there. But
then the Supreme Court stepped in and said, what, we've
got to review that decision first and then put a
stop to it. So some states took action some states didn't,
some are caught in limbo. So yeah, there's still this
back and forth happening with the Trump administration and local governments.

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But the message to the people who have that money
on your card is to spend it.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I'm sure that that was a relief to know that, hey,
if you have it, you're good to go, because imagine
the helpless feeling of not knowing when it's going to end,
knowing how much you rely on it to then have
it but then be told, hey, pump the brakes. You
weren't supposed to get that. But yeah, glad to know
that the folks that have it are probably using it
because those are the ones that needed. But let's switch
gears here. Sports betting, of course, has become it. It's

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heavily embedded in every part of sports when it comes
to how you consume it, even if you're in a
state where it's not legal yet, it is built in
within the coverage there are. There's the FanDuel Sports Network
where you actually watch games on a network they now own.
So what do we know? What do we know about?

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Just?

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I guess plans moving forward as far as preventative actions
to keep players from from participating in any way because
it has been an issue, it probably will continue to
be an issue. But it's always never it's never a
good look when these things, when these things happen within sports.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Right, because then it undermines the credibility and then like
what am I betting for? I don't know if is
this already rigged? And right, well, right, yeah, if this
has already been established and the outcomes have already been
agreed to. So look a couple of weeks ago, it
was the NBA, and then this past weekend we saw
two Cleveland pitchers criminally charged, indicted for allegedly setting up

(22:33):
these deals where they would throw specific pitches at specific
speeds at specific times for these prop bets that were
out there, and some friends of theirs in the Dominican
Republic were allegedly making about a half million dollars on
these deals, and that raised the red flag. That's what
led to the investigation and the charges. Now Major League
Baseball says it's and it's authorized to gaming operators say

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they're going to limit those individual pitch bets to just
two hundred bucks each in order to try to bring
down that level of involvement. But still these players are
bound by their contracts not to either directly or indirectly
take part in these betting events.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
I'm sure anybody that had any say so, any influence
in it becoming legal in as many states as it's
legal right now knew there would be situations like this.
Maybe they didn't know how many situations we'd have like this,
but they had to know. And it's holding those accountable
to the highest extent to scare people from making such
a foolish decision.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Well, right, but look, gambling has been a big part
of sports for centuries literally, and when it was illegal
scan yeah, exactly, and scandal after scandal after scandal, and
for a long time, professional sports tried to keep an
arms length from gambling. And you know, for a long time,
they wouldn't even have playoff games or events like the

(23:52):
Super Bowl in Las Vegas had a fear of you know,
oh no, we wouldn't go to Vegas they have sports betting.
And of course now it's in what thirty eight states?
So yeah, I mean the sports for a long time
tried to shy away from it. But boy, it's a
very different time these days, and this is the stuff
that's going to happen. These arrests are going to be
made if these connections are found.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Rory, as always, we appreciate your time. Enjoy the rest
of your day, my friend fact Nick. That is Rory
O'Neil of NBC News. Quick update of trafficking weather than
a sports updates coming up right here on news Radio
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