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August 1, 2024 • 38 mins
It's been exactly a year since I've uploaded any interviews - it's been rough! Checking in, and finishing strong through the rest of 2024. But this episode, we check in with Talameshia from Houston, who previously was in a girl group managed by Matthew Knowles, moved through different genres and honing her own sound!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So first off, first off, first off, I want to
apologize everybody because it's been a year. It has been
an actual full year since I have uploaded a podcast.
Oh my gosh. And I'm not gonna make no mistakes
for nothing or I'm not gonna make no excuses.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
It's really the life started lifing.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Let me just say that life started life and everybody
has issues, Everybody got stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
But you know what, Ashley is an introvert.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
At very many times when I feel overwhelmed, so let
me say that lots of stuf happened since I last
uploaded a podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
What happened? I got married?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Shout out to my husband, who I have known since
I was twenty.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
What was I think twenty one is when we met
in Jacksonville, Florida.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, I got married. We got another dog. Okay, shout
out to our dog, our doc dulce. I've been working
my ass off and going through it. If you do
listen to me on the radio, thank you so much
for listening. But yes, I have been, you know, doing
the day and day out, doing like five chicks, five
six shows a day on radio.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
So if you missed my voice, you can always turn
on a radio stream, a son, I have video, It's
gonna be right there, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Work environment responsibilities have changed. We all work from home,
so I don't go up to the studio every day.
I only go up to the studio if I'm doing
an in person interview or if I need to be
up there for like a client meeting or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
But ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Point nine percent of the time when you hear my voice,
it is being recorded at my house, at my home studio,
So that has changed a lot, as well as Drake
and Kendrick beefed. So much happens since the last time
I uploaded a podcast. I really should have uploaded one
during that, but I was just my mind just wasn't there.
There's so much going on personally with family, you know.

(01:48):
Unfortunately had a few deaths in the family. This year
has just been life has been lifing. So if life
has also been lifing for you, just what God also
be guiding when life be lifing. I saw that on
Twitter the other day. If some of you follow me,
if you don't already, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Ashley with two.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
He's on air on from Instagram and TikTok. I'm the
most active, but I did guest house of Breakfast Club
last year.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Shout out to my dogs, Uncle Charla and DJ Envy.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I got to guest host while they were looking for
the replacements to Angelie, which did turn out to be
justs hilarious.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
A congrats to jess.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
What else did I do?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I traveled a lot, I did a few interviews. I
really like locked in really on my marriage and my family.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I will say that's what I did last year.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
So we got married February twenty eighth, last year twenty
twenty three, and this.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Is past year and a half.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I've just really been focused on that, you know, like
for the past year, like building you know, living together,
building our space, you know, getting our getting our stuff together.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's what I've been focused on.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
So when people ask where have I been, I've been
being a wife.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
That's what I've been doing for the past year.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
But like I said, I've known my husband now for
thirteen almost fourteen years, and we were friends for a
long time. We've been we dated starting in twenty twenty
and it was long distance because I had moved out
of Florida. He was still living in Florida, and then
he eventually came out to Houston, and we've been, you know,

(03:26):
making stuff shake since then and learning so much. I
feel like because both of us come from one, I
don't want to say divorced homes, but because my mom
was ever married. I just came from a single parent home.
He came from like a divorced family. We both had

(03:49):
a lot of learning to do on what we think
a relationship should look like or a marriage.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
You know, that's besides the point.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's another podcast topic we'll talk about another day. But
like I said, it's been a year since I have
uploaded any content, and honestly, i'd been doing interviews and
I just be sitting on them, I really do. I
just be like em, I'll upload this another day, you know.
So I'm gonna start uploading again very often.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Today's Thursday, August. First, make sure to pay your rents.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Do not get no eviction notices because we do not
support addictions. Even though I have been a victim in
the best, we do not support not paying your rent. Okay,
but I do want to upload this interview I did
back in March, I believe, and this was with Talamichia.
She's an artist out of Houston, and she was even
signed to a girl group from Matthew Knowles. She you know,

(04:41):
she really does like R and B trap, but she
is a fan of all music, so she can you know,
do with the one. And she started to do country
obviously after you know, coming off the heels of Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Doing Cowboy Carter.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
So she is everyone in Houston knows, you know she is,
you know, with a B king shout out to my
now be king. But she it's like what I think
is like a musical savant, you know, like just loves
a whole bunch of types of music and just likes
to sing and you know it just likes to you know,
make moves, make things happen. So shout out to tell
me she popped up on me. I think it's a

(05:15):
very important conversation for people who are artists and they
want to branch out and then looking for the avenues.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
How to do that? Where to get discovered? You know,
how to hone your craft?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
How didn't I guess the word is niche down as
an artist, how to like kind of wrangle all your
styles together into one thing. So I really love this
interview with Telemsia. Make sure that you follow her on everything,
and yeah, let me know in the comments, you know,
hit me up her reviews, and let me know how
often do you want these interviews because I'm sitting out

(05:48):
a lot.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I'm sitting out a.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Lot of big name interviews that I just never uploaded, okay,
and I'm going through them right now, like I really
should put this up there, you know, so let me
know how often you need these per week?

Speaker 2 (05:59):
But thanks so much for listening. I love y'all, and
stay Tunian all right, Sash with two he's on there
here with tyal of me. Yuh not. She came in
with like the cotton candy, Yes, do the fro you know,
pinkish giving pink.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah. You know, something I found out about you was
that she's also doing the can we call it crossover
the country? Yes, okay, she's she's enter into country now.
But that R and B wasn't always like your main thing.
Like you grew up in an eclectic household, right, you
listened to a lot of music.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yes, I definitely did. I come from a musical background.
My mom and her brothers and sisters, eight of them,
they all grew up basically as the Jackson five in
their head.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yes, they had a band, a song and did everything.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
My mom was a big fan of Janny Jackson, Michael Jackson,
Shana Twain. So all of that is kind of the
root of my music career and journey, and you know,
the de Barges, and then I just kindind of ventured
off into what I like, which was you know, of
course Destiny's Child, Christina aguilais Selena carry Underwood, those kind
of people kind of.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Started to I like big voices.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, so anything that had challenging vocals and lyrics and
just felt good.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I kind of was there.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
So the musical background is definitely in my blood, thankfully.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
See you kind of like me because I was the
same way.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
But my family's from like Washington State military family, and
my mom listened to like any lyrics and Jone arbitraing
and just all these different different people. And when I
would like listen to them at school, they're like, what
the hell is that white people.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Should be Like, No, it's just it's just eclectic.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
They were different. A wide range of music is what
I like to say. I could be everywhere from rock, country, Spanish,
all of it.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Do you have any type of like because your your
voice sounds like a lot of soul in it.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Do you have any like church?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah? Raised in the Baptist Church. That was another thing.
My mom was big on and harmonies, that was like
number one thing. So church was kind of definitely pushed
on me and being inquired. But yeah, it's there, I do.
I'm the baby of three on my mom's side. Yeah
really yeah, okay, yeah, I'm the baby of my three

(08:23):
on my mom's side. Then I'm a baby of three
on my dad's side. But I don't know them. Theyre
in Columbia. I haven't met them.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
So like the.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Jackson three, uh were actually my sister she ventured off
into dancing, and then my brother he does choreography and
he writes. But everyone has a voice, but I'm the
only one that really pursued it.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I was the annoying kid. Okay, the one they tell
the shut up in the restaroom. Yeah that's me.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
It takes me to bracks and family values, how they harmonize.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
You know, your right there?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah. I wish it was like that with my siblings,
but they had their own paths they wanted to take.
So okay, I respect you got it.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
So for anyone who may be new to you.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
You are from age Town, from Houston, but west Side,
because everybody argues on the north side, n A w
F north Side.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Now where'd you go to? Where'd you go to school?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
We want to I went to a lot of schools,
but I would say I graduated from Westfield High School.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Spring, so she represents Westfield High School.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yes, And the thing that.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Brings you in today, the single that we're working today
is your new I guess a country single. And like
I said, you kind of transition obviously in the era
of Beyonce and Cowboy Carter and all that stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Is that kind of what inspires you to do that?
Or was that always in you? I will say it was.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
It inspired the confidence to release it.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
It was always there.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I did American Idol, my mama was drugs me there
when I was young, and I sung Grascal Flats and
I did Shanin Twain I feel like a woman. But
the time I did that, Michael Jackson had just passed
so like a baby, and I was an easily and
I was not prepared. So yeah, country was always there.
But when Rodeo came around and then Super Bowl and

(10:10):
Beyonce dropped, I was like, well, I have been naturally
just going to Whiskey River North. It's the country club
in Houston, Texas. They have one on the West and
one on the North, and that's where I kind of
go just to have a good time. No one's in
their phones, there's no sections, everyone's dancing. I love to dance,
and it's very diverse. So that's where I've been for
like the last three months. And then I was like,
oh my gosh, I want to make music like this,

(10:31):
but I don't think my city will receive it from
me just yet, especially with promoting it as an independent
artist and pushing it, it's a little harder. So I
was like, I was a little nervous. And then Beyonce
dropped after super Bowl. Immediately I was like, Okay, now
she's gonna put a spotlight on this lane to where

(10:52):
now I could just trail ride on behind her and
everybody else like Tannerdale and them. So I was like,
all right, I got this song that I made overnight,
like my hit. My producer of Tray and he sent
me this beat instantly. He's like, oh my gosh, I've
been wanting to tap into that too. He's because he
works with a lot of rappers and hipop, and as
a producer, he's looking to lean into a different genre.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
So he's like, oh my gosh, I'm team it.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
So he sent it to me and overnight, my studio
is upstairs in my house. So I went upstairs, recorded
myself and sent it to Kelly, sent it to be King,
and immediately they fell in love with it. I loved
it and be King and Kelly was like, this a hit,
this is one like and beking. Normally he's he's very
you know, in his world of music is line of

(11:35):
music club, you know, so he's like, dang, like working
with a singer, like you're really putting me on, Like, dang,
this is bomb.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
He's like I can't stop replaying it.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
And so I feel like when he's when people that
I trust with, you know, the musical input around me,
when their team it, I'm like, all right, cause I'm
easily gonna be my worst critic and kind of talk
myself out of it and be like, all right, I
think it's too premature.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
He ain't gonna do we get.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
My phone is full of everything, Like I have afrobeats,
I have reggae throon, I I have everything in my
phone of music that I've tried, and I'm like, when
is the right time? I don't know, and so Kelly
and everybody's like, yeah, we need to do this now.
The wave it's here, Everyone's receptive.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Like do it. So I was like, all right, let's go,
and immediately did the song. Dropped it.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, it came natural, natural too, CAUs is Rodeo time,
and I just told a story about what I was
really going through and dealing with that Whiskey River and
how I felt I felt free and just like I
didn't care, and I'm just like Dad, like.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Okay, So I saw you post a video I think
it's on Twitter and it was like people dancing.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Was that that club? Yes, that was a Whisky River.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
So before I dropped it, I was there a few
times just getting the vibe and the dj knew me
already and he would drop the record. And also just
like to make sure it was engineered properly, because like
I said, I recorded myself, so I wanted to kind
of make sure I was in the right realm with
the speakers and the people were were instantly into it.

(13:02):
So we were just filming everything. Yeah, like we didn't
even want to announce it. I was like, don't don't
tell them that I'm here, don't tell them whose song
it is. Let them vibe naturally without you know, prejudgment
and them feeling like, Okay, oh god, she's here, let
me not turn up. So but that's them clapping and
having a great time to the song. And I would
say this is the quickest, most genuine response I've gotten

(13:22):
in my music career. With my music, and it's effortless.
I don't have to do too much but just have
a good time and sing and let people kind of
do what they feel to it.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Do you feel like, let me get different?

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Do you feel like now obviously what Beyonce opened the
door doing the Blackbirst song with the other black country
artist and then obviously you being from Houston to like
being from Texas country is kind of like in you.
Do you feel like more people are gravitating towards that,
Like we already have heard about ky Michelle a while ago.
We're like, girl, you R and B, stay an R
and B. But now we're saying knowledge, she's her voice

(13:59):
is made for country. Do you feel like that that
genre kind of suits your talents better or can you
do either or?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I feel like I can do either or, And that
was also a problem though, I will say, because I
call myself a gumbo artist, I feel like, no matter
what you give me, I'm gonna make it work. So
that's why my music is so all over the place,
because if this is what I'm presented with, the producer
gives me this beat, I'm gonna try.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Something's gonna come to mind. Because I just love music.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I'm like, all right, this is how somebody or I
would approach this or what they would want to hear
from this type of beat. But with country or pop,
because I do see myself as just you know, popular music,
being able to do any type of music and just
sing freely or rap if I want to.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I feel like with country, I get to.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Talk a little bit more about realistic things and and
I don't have to be overly sexualized, because I do
feel like an R and B and hip hop today
it's a little more sexualized.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
I feel like it's a little more stunning.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
It's about, you know, showing off what you got, how
you look, and just saying what it's catchy and other
people want to hear to turn up. I feel like
it's a certain energy for that versus country. I do
feel like I get to talk about relatable stories and
topics and do a lot more with my voice because
I naturally yodel. Yeah, So it's like, okay, I can

(15:16):
actually finest that in there, you know what I mean,
and and not be like looked at like okay, what
are you doing?

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Are you doing too much? You know?

Speaker 3 (15:23):
I feel like within the country round vocals and harmonies
is very much.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
So appreciated, so I enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I'm excited. It's definitely not the last lane I'm gonna
touch though.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I'm glad you brought that up because growing up in
church as well, I feel like our community is like
in a box of what we consider good singing.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, you know, like does she have runs? Can she? Yeah?
Can she sing hit the note in there? Cocks?

Speaker 1 (15:49):
You know?

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Can she?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
It's very comparison, it's very It is very much so
like you know with belting too. That's the thing, Like
I remember when I was inquiring, my choir teacher used
to try to stop me from belting. So then when
I got on hip hop and R and B, like
even be king, I'll say, all right, nah, you can't
be too singy on this type of beat. But me
naturally being different, I'd be like, well, that's why I
would do it. But you know, it has to blend

(16:12):
a little bit with people's ear on what's playing with
the DJ's mix and the clubs.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
At least in the beginning, I get it.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
But I was like, dang, I just want to sing
freely without boxing myself in or worried about comparisons or
worried about overly singing or stacking too much, because I
like to stack my my tracks. Like that's something I
actually learned from seeing how Michael Jackson sessions look. They
have like hell of stacks. So it's like, all right,

(16:40):
well that's something I dude. And then it's choir. If
you was inquiring, you was in church, you know, at
least the basic soprano, you know, alto, you know, tenor
face like those things kind of just play a part.
And then I was like, well, I'm gonna just do that, yeah,
because I'm thinking of bands in the future. I'm thinking
of background singers in the future.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
So oh so you think of it even now, you set.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
It up like in your head when I perform this
at Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, I kind of I rethink, like, okay, performance because
everything I make is for performance. I think that's my
favorite thing. I'm not really gong ho about talking too
much our interview, that's like my nerve, kind of one
of my things that make me a little nervous. But
on stage with a mic, that's my free spot. That's
when I'm like having a great time. I'm not in
my head, and it's like I tell people like, Okay,

(17:29):
I might not be able to do this part, so
I might be awkward here, but when I get on stage,
that's the part. And so that's the thing that I
kind of like make sure if anything, when I make music,
it's about being on stage, Like, Okay, when I get
on stage, I'm gonna want to move like this, so
let me make it go like this. And then I'm like, okay,
on this part, I'm gonna want to hear some harmonies.
Let me think about when I get some girls in
the back, that's gonna really you know, hit these notes

(17:51):
and harmonize with me.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
So I kind of think that way. Okay, well, let's
take a break from musicta.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
We're gonna come back, but birthday, so I am on
my show.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
We just talk a lot about astrology.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I don't know if you believe in it, or if
you know about your big three, or.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I don't know much about it. I mean, I don't
know so much pretend to be so. So I'm a Gemini.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Son and my brother's May twenty six, okay, and then
I'm a Scorpio rising and then curious mood.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
You know your No, I don't know. You gotta find
that out. Yeah, I know. I'm an area I know.
I just know when I was born.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Is there a stereotype about areas that's true about you
that you think like you fit?

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I can honestly say I haven't really heard. I feel
like all of it does send my fit in a way.
I know we're stubborn. I know, yeah, I was just touristism. Yeah,
so we can be pretty stubborn. What I heard direct
we like it short and sweet, like straight to the point.

(18:56):
But they say we're very very RAMI ish. I guess, okay,
we're very leader mindset, and I guess they would say
you gotta go my way.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, in no way. So some of it I do see.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
I feel like if it's where it's supposed to and
if you are a good person, you make it beneficial
and positive instead of negative.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
More so.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
So I don't know what else something else that we
have in common, though, because I'd be looking at your.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Twitter and I don't want to get this wrong.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
You tweeted, if I pull up outside the rodeo, can
I pay someone to bring me your funnel cake Friday?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
That's my that's a corn dog. I'm so fat.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
So I would to say, because we're in Houston, and
everybody comes to Houston, they want to know where to eat. Yeah,
do you have a top a top three places that
you would suggest to somebody.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
I'm gonna say Trill Burger first, because shut a bun,
shot out bun.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
We went there and we've been addicted and we try
to stay away from that. Luckily it's a distance from us. Yes,
I'm gonna say trill Burger. I'm gonna say Cali ht
X was that North?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Up?

Speaker 3 (20:01):
And they're bomb And then what's my third? She Italian
that's on nineteen sixty and they are Oh my god.
So I feel like with Chiul Burger, you get a
bomb burger and fries and the Houston vibes.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Of course Texas vibes.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
But then you know, you go to Cali, HTx, you
get the West Coast vibe, and I feel like my
heart is somewhere in West Coast California, so you get
that vibe with great food too. I feel like a
lot of people say that Cali food is kind of
watered down, no offense.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I ain't say that.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
That's what I heard, but you know what, I mean,
more healthier, which is probably why I a b the
more fit out there. But out here, the place is big,
the food is big, the vibes is big. It's very good,
very musical. I feel like they mastered that for them
to be from California. And then Italian is from Chicago,
and I feel like, you go there and you get, honestly,
to me, the best Chicago food you can get in

(20:56):
in Houston, Texas. Yeah, and it's bomb. And they got
the little you know, crack powdered. Okay, yeah, it's not
real crack, y'all.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Know.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, it's the powder they put on the chicken, and
it's just, I don't know, it's addictive.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
So, yeah, this is so bad. I shouldn't have any
of it.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I told her just before we started this interview that
I'm getting food delivered because the Black Restaurant Week, and
I was like, girls want some rings? Something I saw
in another interview, did you said the first concert you
saw was Jesse Shot at the Rodeo, right, and then
you actually went on to work in a girl group
with Matthew Notes and then now you're a solo artist.

(21:36):
But is there anything that you learned from Matthew or
just from the business in that experience that you took
with you.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Oh yeah, I learned a lot actually, what I would say,
and being with him. I did my first official world
tour with Seventh Streeter, So I feel like that to
me is something that I cherish and hold as far
as even performance wise, like I told you, I'm a
big fan and performing is my thing. So I learned

(22:03):
how to maneuver with having a hidel hernia and performing
none stop every day and doing promo and doing interviews
and being on the road and no I want to
rest and not to rest.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
So that was one of the things.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
And then of course with him just learning that everything's
a Jedi mind trick.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's how he likes to say.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Really, yes, everything has a tweak or a purpose or
is a curveball to kind of draw you in, So
really promotion like, don't believe everything in a way, know
that it has a know that it has a purpose
even if it doesn't. And then you know what they say,
no such thing as bad publicity.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
And I asked, would you do a girl group again? No?

Speaker 3 (22:49):
And I say that because I do love girls. I
loved being in the group that was like a sisterhood
and it was fun. But I will say it does
it doesn't allow you to really find out who you are,
and I think that that was the crutch is for
so long when you're working with a girl group and
you're trying.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
And I come from being on teams.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
I was on a step team as a step master,
I was on the basketball team. Like everything I did
was very teamish, so I never had time to find
out who I was by myself. So it's like and
like being an aries, we don't like to be told
what to do. So when you boyind it's kind of overwhelming,
so I will say I wouldn't because one I also
was pretty much solo. I was the only singer with

(23:28):
two rappers, so I already felt alone because no one
could have my back when it comes to singing. But
I could do rapping, but no one you know what
I mean. I was all alone. If I lost my voice,
that was it, Like no one was picking up the singing. Yeah,
the singer just gonna sit there. So that was one
of the things. But it was fun. It was definitely

(23:48):
very fun. It has its pros and cons. You have,
you know, people who understand what you're going through and
you can kind of gossip about what's going on, like,
oh my God, just pissed me out.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
But then you also like, all right, I don't have
a moment alone.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I can't live my individual life.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
I can't have a relationship like those type of things.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
So was it set up like making the band like
Base or were you organically?

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Oh, it was organically from the jump.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
We was a group before we got signed and then
we went and honestly, Kelly who's here, definitely was the
one who told us to go to the music World.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
How Sedarion when it was up.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Okay to go to a showcase that had there, and
she's like, yeah, y'all should just go do that in
case he pops in.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
You never know what happened, and we did and long
and hold he.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Did, yeah, and so that's when we got signed, and
then we had group member change. Of course, the normal
group story actually is pretty much every group story you've
heard is.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
How it played out.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
And I don't mean to curse any girl groups that's coming,
but I will say that's the one thing that's true
to its story is kind of every girl group story
has the exact same flow.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
That was one of the things he taught us.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
He let us know, like I've worked, it's so many
girl groups, this is how it normally plays out.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
I was like, that was right. He wasn't wrong.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I will say I've met Matthew a few times. He
had me on LinkedIn and he has not answered my message.
Sounds like yeah, I ad me on LinkedIn and not
answer my message. But anyway, the reason that that you
are here is because of your new single, which is
Lose Youer Cool, which is the country single. Yes, what
inspired you? Alreadys talked about you know, this was the

(25:27):
right time to do that. But as far as like
writing the song, was there a certain instance a situation, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, it actually was so Like I said, I'm not
gonna lie I'm gonna be real honest, real quick. So
being hip hop and R and B from what I
was doing, you know, to work on everybody in your
face those songs and talk on everybody is my leading
solo sample, Yeah, the sample and then TikTok grab it. Yeah,
you know, TikTok is definitely the plug. So that honestly

(25:57):
was a different realm for me. It was fun and
it was just where I was at the time, who
I was with, how I was moving in these clubs
and just doing what was catching ear and the wave was.
And I think as a musician you do kind of
play into what the wave is a little bit to know,
being the know you know. So that's what I was doing.
That's the no but in the singing way with twists
of rap. But I was like, all right, this is cool.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
But all the.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Feedback I'm getting it even I know this true to myself.
Is not showcasing who I really am my vocals, and
that's the number one thing, is just showcasing a singer.
And of course the goal is to be a pop star.
So I'm like, how do I lift from here? If
I'm in this bubble in this realm, So I just
kind of took a break from it all. And a
friend of mine who's a bartender, was like, you know,

(26:40):
I know you would really love coming to Whiskey River.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
You should come. I work here.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I'm like one of the top bartenders. Just come out,
have a good time. I went and I never left.
When I tell you, I went, I went, and I
was there so long that I was there overnight, like
it closed that too.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Then they half an after hour. That pretty much is
a like the next level of Whiskey River.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Everyone from there goes there to Foygo's a half hour
and right down the street. I would go there and
I would continue in that energy, and I was like,
let me just vibe and feel where music is and
how I feel. And they don't take much to inspire me.
So I was like, all right, this is fun. I'm dancing.
People are actually asking you to dance, and that's the
one thing I do care about in clubs and going out.
I'm like, why are y'all here if you're not gonna dance?

(27:25):
And then they look at you in certain clubs crazy.
If you dance, you know you're in sections and they
just want to show off with the.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Phone and standing on the couch, yes, and you know,
no shade to y'all. That's how you move, that's what
you like.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
But for me, I really enjoy meeting people and you know,
exchanging energies if it's positive, you know what I mean,
and dancing and just letting lose because I feel like
that's what it's for.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
And so that's what I was doing.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
And guys were hollering, guys were you know, everyone's hollering,
and then everyone's dancing, and then everyone's you know, just
riding the mechanical bull and throwing back shots. And it's
an indoor and outdoors, so it's a lot in the DJ.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Knew I was. We were lit.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
He's fun and he's aries too surprised imna find out.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
So I was like, maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
But that's what I wrote from. I just wrote from
my experience being in that world. And I was like,
all right, first line, I'm gonna head down a Whiskey river,
brand new boots in town, like I'm the brand new
girl with new boots in here.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's pretty much what that means. And I don't care.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
My vibe is I really don't care what anybody think
because I'm in there with all his hair, people looking
at me. Girls and white women come up to me.
You can't touch your hair, you know, they really they
don't care. And I just like, okay, like I'm a puppy,
let's go, and they do. So I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
I was just very I felt accepted there.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
And I don't mean that as to, you know, be
rude or hurt anybody else's feelings, but I felt like
in my city, I found a place where it's a hub,
and it's a big hub, and it's very diverse, all ages,
all ethnicities, different you know, sexual preference. And they received
me and they didn't even know who I was, you

(29:04):
know what I mean. So they was just like my
energy alone. So I was like, all right, I'm a
right from that standpoint, and that's what I did. And
I did one version and I posted a snippet just
to kind of test them, you know, and everyone loved it.
Then I got another beat and that's a beat and
I got overnight and I just created that one in
my studio and I was like I didn't have to

(29:25):
edit it.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
I didn't have to go back and change anything. I
was like, this is it.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
And so I was like, well, I feel like if
I dance with you, you're gonna lose your cool like
as it was, and.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
That's honestly the vibe that it was there.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
It was like, yeah, and as you get high, and
I was like, okay.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Let's make it flirty.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
I haven't made a flirty song like that before yet,
so I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
It just flew and it felt right and they loved it.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
I let them hear the manager the owners there, and
so now both of them are on board both locations.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
So I was like, okay, so you know, now it
hip hop.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
They say like, you gotta break it in Atlanta, Houston,
New York, and let you know that you gotta go
to Nashville.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
I know, I know I and I actually want to.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I want to go to Nashville. I heard they got good.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Food and I saw that you did a cover of
Morgan Walling so last last night this, yeah, I definitely do.
Like I said, Shana Twain and Carrie Underwood were my two,
my two top ones. And I don't know if maybe
because my mom, I think it probably really is.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
My mama really.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Did that, like because like I said, Disney chall was
my first rodeo concert ever, and I was in the thosebleeds.
But then my next rodeo that I ever went to
was with my friend and she was a white girl
and I was in fifth grade and went to see
Randy Travis. And that's when I was like, oh my god,
it's my first time I ever seeing this artist. And
I enjoyed every bit of that show. And I feel like,

(30:51):
all right, I like all music. Really, that's just really
what it is. And I know people don't want to
hear that. That's the part that kind of sucks is
people want to buy you went or you know, have
something to I guess make you familiar with.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
But I was like, I really I love rock.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Like one of my dream features is Imagine Dragons and
Billie Eilish and tell Us Swift. Those are my top
three that I really want to I love how you
mentioned that. That was my next question.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Across genres, whether it's hip hop, country pop. You just
named Billie Alis Swift and Magic Dragons are those and
those are great singers who can't belt, but like singers
who can go toe to toe with Oh.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
I'm gonna say Beyonce and I don't even I'm not
even saying that as a.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Goal total toe. I just mean you leave the white girl.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, and I just bland in there somewhere behind, Like
I do definitely feel like honestly Destiny's child.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
That is my dream.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Like I know LaTavia, she really is a nice person.
We interact, we speak, we have mutual friends. I met LaToya,
She's a sweetheart as well. Kelly Rowland actually got me
through prom, so she's a friend of one of my godmoms.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
She came and gave me everything.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
That I needed for prom and was like, I'm your
Auntie Kales because I was on the step team and
she had us come perform at U of H for
her nonprofit organization. It was I Heart my sister or
something like that, and we did that and she just
was in the pocket ever since. And then I ran
into her again under Matthew and then he did that
whole thing of comparing the groups and then it was like,

(32:31):
well made that awkward. Yeah, but Desney Shott is definitely
one of my tops. I don't know if they'll ever
come together. And then Michelle definitely her gospel era did
it for me, so that of course, and then who
else that just I love Mariah Carey okay, my Ari
sister and of New Age. I love Halle Bailey. I

(32:54):
feel like I don't know and Lady God Like. Maybe
it's because of the all aries, but I think their
uniqueness I do see a lot of the same aries vibes,
if that makes sense. I know you asked that about,
you know, the characteristics. I see a lot of it
in them.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
I think everybody, like talking about Lady Gaga and Hallie Bailey,
I think everyone you name, they're really like performers, but
like some people, they're more just like, yeah, they're really
like sing and dance at the same time.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
All of that, and they're they're out of the box
because I'm like, I really like themes and I like
people who you know, their fan base is unique, like
Lady got gout with her monsters, Like I like things
like that too.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
And hmm, I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
I'm really manifesting it, and I do hope it happens.
Of course, one of my dream was was Michael Jackson,
but hey, yeah, I'll just have.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
To hopefully hope that I can.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
I can do a proper remake of one of his
songs that I love, you know, I think one of
my favorite songs is.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
What is it uh.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
A Stranger in my scow. Oh, it's one of my
favorite songs.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, I was gonna go with you know, some know,
some of the like mainstream. So I'm just waiting for
you to say, like.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Thriller, just whatever.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
I'm like, Oh, I'm not gonna touch though. I'm pretty,
I'm pretty, I'm pretty smart. I mean, it would be
dope to do like a dirty Diana or some one.
Of course I love all of those, but I was like,
I'm gonna probably go for something that people wouldn't really
probably even get on me about too much because I
don't play about yeah about the legendary Yes, the goats.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
You know. So the last thing on my show, we
do this thing called the hay to Eate, were we
kind of it's just debate, you know, like people were
like I like this one, I like this one, or
there'll be a certain topic, people calling share their experience.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Okay, so I don't know if you be on Twitter
like that, but I'll be on Twitter every day. It's
a lot. I'll say that they do have they do
have debates.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
You know. They tried to say this week was all about
Kendrick and a few weeks ago it was about Michael
Jackson or Prince, so that do we coun't tell me
she is Michael Jackout or Prince, which okay, all right,
so I'm gonna have to say Prince because he was

(35:17):
the first my mama said.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
When I was four three, the first song I sung
was You Were Not Alone by Michael Jackson. So obviously,
just as an innocent child, my f I drew to
Michael Jackson. Okay, but as I got older Prince and
I seen the movie and I learned his story and
of course Purple Rain and my favorite song aby him
is Die for You and Diamonds and Pearls. So I

(35:40):
was like, all right, I like Prince, but I definitely
I'm gonna have to be team Michael.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Michael and when we when I hear this will lead
into this conversation.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Be like, I know, but it's it's more than that.
It's what he did for the world. It is the
humanitarian I'm really big on that too. And you know
the care and the messages and the music and how
he moved people, and even you hear a lot more
positive things about his aura in the room. You know
what I mean like even seeing I don't know if

(36:13):
you just saw the one night and Pop that's on, Yeah,
when you see the whole session of making we all
the world.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Like oh, and how he was side on everybody, like yeah,
But you know, also just knowing that pulling all of
these legends and future legends together in one room that.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Couldn't and it was the.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Night after the awards show, so you like, you gotta
trust these people to leave the awards, not go turn
up to come to the session and actually have a
voice overnight for like eight hours of a session and
it ain't punching type. It's like, all right, we gotta
run this all the way back and we gotta learn
it here. So it's that, but then knowing that they
did want Prince to be a part of it, and

(36:56):
he didn't want to, and it would have made it
would have just done so much for just even us
as a black community in the music industry, and they didn't.
So it's like one of those things where I'm like, well,
I feel like in a room, maybe me and Michael
would probably click a little better.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
We like animals. Animals. Well, I gotta thank you, tell
me shir for pulling up and just happen.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
You know, I told you one on one girl talk conversation,
thank you for having me tell us what we.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Can look for.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
You got a single out now, but what you know,
what else is there coming soon to come?

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Or what what? What are you aiming for? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Well, you can first follow me on all social platforms
at tellome sh ha that's t A L A M
E s H I A on everything, and you can
get my new single called Lose Your Cool that's on
all streaming platforms. And the video is actually I just
got a version this morning, Yeah, from my videographer, and
I'll have to edit it, but it'll be dropping. I

(37:55):
will say, can I do I have to give a date?
Can I say just next week?

Speaker 2 (38:01):
In a week it will be so maybe I don't
know if you hear this and it'll be out, but
it will be out.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
And I'm excited because I shot it at Whiskey River.
The whole building was on board, everyone was on board.
I'm excited about the storyline. So yeah, and then you
can just look forward to me hitting your stages and hey,
don't be afraid to reach out. I definitely respond love well,
thank you so much for telling me until next time,

(38:28):
because you know she's coming back up here, yes, and
we're gonna eat yes food, nothing but food, Popla.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
But till then, it's actually for two weeks, the night
through seven, to be Hey,
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