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August 31, 2024 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To night. Michael Brown joins me here the former FEMA
director talk.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Show host Michael Brown.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job
the Weekend with Michael Brown.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hey, welcome on the Weekend with Michael Brown. It's Labor
Day weekend, and yeah, I'm working. I'm laboring on Labor
Day weekend. Have you with me? I appreciate you tuning in.
Give a shout out to apparently some of you are
in New Mexico too, and I'm broadcasting from our home
in New Mexico. So all of you that have rushed

(00:29):
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(01:15):
the weekend program, so you'll get all of the Michael
Brown programming. So the interview last hour, we talked about
how we live in a post truth society, a post
truth world. So I'm driving to New Mexico while the
interview is taking place. And as I said when I

(01:36):
when I got here, one of the first first thing,
but one of the first things I did was to
sit down to see if I could find any just
kind of really immediate reports, what are people saying about
the interview? And then I went to the CNN YouTube
channel and book marked it so I could read it

(01:58):
later or listen to it later. And I did, and
the first thing that surprised me was you this interview
was only about eighteen minutes somewhere between sixteen and eighteen
minutes long, maybe nineteen depending on when you actually start
the YouTube versions of the interview. So for forty plus days,

(02:23):
she doesn't speak to the media, she doesn't do an interview,
and then she sits down and it's less than twenty minutes.
Less than twenty minutes for someone who wants to be
the next president of the United States of America. She
can't spend more than twenty minutes with CNN to take questions. Now,

(02:46):
not only was it less than twenty minutes, now, I
calculated that it was about eighteen. Some people have said sixteen.
Some people have said nineteen. Some people that's thirty minutes long.
It is not thirty minutes long. If you have, if
you have a thirty minute version of this interview, then

(03:08):
please send me, text, email, whatever, send me that link
because I want to see it, because it doesn't exist.
Here's what's even more disappointing about this interview. The interview
is pre recorded. Do you remember special counsel Robert her
Does that name ring a bell with you? Special Counsel

(03:29):
Robert Herr is the one who investigating Joe Biden sat
down and didn't did a deposition with Joe Biden, the
current president. I think he's still the president. He spread out,
Oh he's spread out spread eagle on a beach in Rehoboth,
Delaware right now. But you may recall that after doing

(03:54):
that interview, that deposition, Robert her his report about his
investigation concluded that there was there was no reason to
prosecute Joe Biden because during the deposition he appeared just

(04:16):
to be an old man that had a very poor memory.
Now we have I shouldn't say, well, yes, we the
American people, through our representatives, have made demands upon the
Department of Justice to release the transcript of that interview.
I'd like to see how long it lasted. I would

(04:39):
like to hear the audio recording. I'd like to I'd
like to hear how many times the President said and
in silence. Because in a deposition, if a lawyer asked
the witness a question and the witness goes um, the
lawyer is not a re so the lawyer's not going

(05:01):
to try to help the witness. The lawyer's going to
sit there. A good lawyer is going to sit there.
And even if there's silence, silence for and I can't
do it on air because if I remain silent for
more than say, seven ten seconds, then all these alarms
go off, and poor Oldmichael in Los Angeles is going

(05:23):
to have a panic, and my program director is going
to panic. So I can't. I can't just for your
just to yourselves, count say thirty seconds, and you realize
thirty seconds is silence. Ten seconds of silence is a
long time. So I wanted I want the audio and

(05:48):
the transcript of the Robert Hurd deposition of Joe Biden
because I wanted to see how bad it was. I
also would like to see the transcri ripped of the
Kamala Harris Dana Bash interview, because if they took an hour,
let's say, an hour, which I thought the interview was going,

(06:11):
that's what I really expected. Stupid naive me thought, oh,
we'll have an hour interview. I was looking forward to
that because I figured out of an hour giving no,
maybe they would, you know, they would they would sell
commercial breaks at a premium amount because of the viewership,
so they might get an extraordinary amount for a sixty

(06:32):
second spot, and so they would limit the number of spots,
and so in a sixty minute interview on CNN Prime Time,
there might actually be I wouldn't know, forty five minutes
of actual interview of actual Q and A. But no,
we got, by my calculation, somewhere between sixteen and eighteen minutes.

(06:55):
Well wouldn't you find it? And if you wouldn't, let
me explain why it's you should find it curious? How
long did this interview take, how many breaks? What was
edited out of the interview? What was asked that she said,
I don't want to go there. I'm just speculating, but
you know, if you have if you don't have the transcript,

(07:21):
if you don't have the outtakes, then I'm entitled to speculate.
And how many times did she say to Dana Bash
and I don't want to go there? Oh, that's all
I have to say about that. Remember during the debate
between Biden and Trump back in June, when one of
the moderators actually I think it's Jake Tapper may have

(07:43):
may have actually said to the president, mister president, you
still have you still have seventy seconds and the president
just rambled on about something. I want to see what
she did, and I think we should be able to.
But I'm sure there was some agreement that see made
in order to get this interview that will pre record

(08:06):
it and then we'll edit it. We'll maybe even give
you some editorial rights if you want them, and so
we only got I mean, you think about how bad
this interview was from my point of view. Can you
imagine what we haven't heard? The one thing that I
did hear while I was driving to New Mexico yesterday

(08:30):
was sometime yesterday afternoon. They started releasing publicity blurbs about
the interview. And a publicity blurb is designed to get you,
much like I do promos, you know, I do promos
for this program. I do promos for my regular weekday program.
And those promos are little topics, little snippets of things

(08:53):
that I might want to talk about, designed to entice
you to listen. But what I heard enticed me to listen,
not because it was intriguing, but because it was so bad.
I was like, holy cow, this is the best that
you could pull out of the interview, and that's what
you're using for your promo. Baby, let me listen to
this interview. So let's walk through it a little bit.

(09:21):
This is about almost three minutes into the interview when
this happens.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Well aware that right now many Americans are struggling. There's
a crisis of affordability. One of your campaign themes is
We're not going back. But I wonder what you say
to voters who do want to go back when it
comes to the economy, specifically, because their groceries were less expensive,
housing was more affordable.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
When Donald Trump was president.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Now that's actually a pretty good question, right, Wait till
you hear the answer. Texta word Michael, Michael did three
three one zero three, Hang tight the answer next. Hey,
welcome back to the weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to
have you on this Labor Day weekend. I'm working in

(10:12):
your listening. That's all. That's that's great. I love it.
I love it. We're talking about the Harris interview. This
this Emmy Award winning interview done by Dana bash Over
at CNN. Before you hear her answer to the question
about you know, many people in America today. You say

(10:34):
you want to move forward and you don't want to
go backwards. Many people in this country might actually want
to go backwards to the policies when gas prices were cheaper,
and groceries were cheaper, the cost of living was cheaper, everything.
We might really want to go back to that. That's
that's the question that we're about to hear the answer to.
But what I find fascinating is a few people that

(11:00):
I've a few people whose opinions I respect, have said
that they actually thought this interview was a win for
Kamala Harris. And as I talked to one friend of
mine who said that I was like what they were like, Yes,
think about it. They built it up all she had

(11:24):
to to the point where all she had to do
was just bs her way through anything without stumbling, and
that would be fine. So it was a win for her,
which is why I spent the last hour talking about
how we live in a post truth world, because our

(11:46):
answers were anything but truthful. So the question is you
say that you want to go forward and you don't
want to go backwards. Yet many Americans look back upon
the Trump when we had lower gas prices, when we
had a strong, growing economy, when inflation was not nearly

(12:08):
as bad as it is today. What do you say
to those voters.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Well, let's start with the fact that when Joe Biden
and I came in office during the height of a pandemic,
we saw over ten million jobs were lost.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yes, because the governments around the world shut down the economy,
and yes, Donald Trump was one of those who did that.
But it wasn't like you inherited a bad economy because
of bad economic policies. You inherited a bad economy because

(12:45):
in essence there was no economy.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
People, I mean literally we were all tracking the numbers.
Hundreds of people a day were dying because of COVID,
the equipment.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Dying because because of COVID, or dying with COVID, huge difference.
But I digress.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Economy had crashed in large part all of that because
of mismanagement by Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Of that mismanagement, I keep hearing this now I have
a ton of disagreement with how Donald Trump, and for
that matter, Boris Johnson or Manuel McCrone or Vladimir Putin
or Jigin Ping or anybody else handled the pandemic. I

(13:33):
think the pandemic was was completely unnecessary. The reaction to
it was completely and totally unnecessary. So what's the mismanagement?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
See?

Speaker 1 (13:50):
That would be a follow up question that I would
ask that crisis.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
When we came in, our highest priority was to do
what we could to rescue America. And today we know
that we have inflation at under three percent.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Inflation is still inflation is under three percent. The Man
and Vice President, when you came into office, it was
at twenty forty year highs. It was an excess of
ten percent. And then on top of the ten percent
you get seven six, five four three percent on top
of all of that. That's why prices are so high.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
A lot of our policies have led to the reality
that America recovered faster than any wealthy nation around the world.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know why we you know why we recovered fast,
and we did. We recovered faster than probably any other
country in the world. But you know why, because we
aren't always have been the largest, in the strongest economy
in the entire world. So once once the economy was
you know, somebody finally reached down and found the car
keys and turned the ignition back on. Once somebody finally

(14:57):
did that, well, of course we recovered quicker than anybody else.
But does the truth matter or does that sound bite matter?

Speaker 5 (15:10):
But you are right, prices in particular for groceries are
still too high. The American people know what I know it,
which is why my agenda includes what we need to
do to bring down the price of groceries, for example,
dealing with an issue like price gouging, what we need
to do to extend the child tax credit to help
young families that wait.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Wait, waitit wait, wait whoa hang on price gouging? Here
we are again. At least she's learned to say price gouging,
not price gauging, So there's a win for her. Who's
price gouging who? I can find no evidence anywhere of
anyone price gouging, particularly when it comes to groceries or

(15:51):
for that matter, gasoline or diesel. Nobody's price gouging. It's
that you have spent so much money through the Inflation
Reduction Act, the American Recovery Act, all those trillions of
dollars that you threw into the economy that cause the
inflation to cause everyone's costs of doing business to go up.
I don't find any signs of price gouging. But why

(16:13):
is she doing that? Well, if you argue that prices
are high because of price gouging, you're basically saying those
evil corporations are the ones out there that are, Oh,
they're just jacking up prices for the fun of it
because they can. I challenge her to show me any

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industry that is price gouging now, because they're not. Most industries,
whether it be the automobile industry, the steel industry, whether
it be the services industry, whatever it might be, they're
all barely hanging on because of inflation and because of
prices that they simply can't. They can't California, her own state,

(17:01):
shake shack in and out, all these all these fast
food places shutting down locations because they simply cannot afford
to pay the costs they're imposed upon them by the
California state government and the federal government.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
Be able to take care of their children in their
most formative years. What we need to do to bring
down the cost of housing. My proposal includes what would
be a tax credit of twenty five thousand dollars for
first time home buyers.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
How does that help the economy? Twenty five grand, So
a twenty five thousand dollars tax credit, So there's twenty
five if it's truly a tax credit, So twenty five
thousand dollars that we lose in revenue. And that so
supposedly because you know, when I pay my property taxes,
those property taxes go to the county in the state.
They don't go to the federal government. And first time

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home buyers, regardless of age or income or anything else,
another giveaway, simply another giveaway. Tonight, Michael Brown joins me here,
the former FEMA director.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Talk show host Michael Brown.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Brownie, No, Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
The Weekend with Michael Brown.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
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(19:01):
Here's her answer about the economy and how she's going
to fix it.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Families be able to take care of their children in
their most formative years. What we need to do to
bring down the cost of housing.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Sure, before we go to housing, she wants to bring
down the cost of raising a kid. And so that
will that won't lower the cost of anything that parents buy.
It just gives them a tax credit. Now, granted, that
means they have more money in their pocket, But then
I got scratching my head about how many of those

(19:37):
who would qualify for the child tax credit are actually
paying income taxes. Because if if your income tax bill
at the end of the year is one thousand dollars,
but you're getting a six thousand dollars credit, are you
going to get You're going to pay no income tax

(19:59):
and they get it then get a five thousand dollars
refund to get you the six thousand dollars. Well, that's
going to cost the rest of us. So how's that
going to help the economy? And if and if Now
I don't think this is true, but if you were

(20:21):
to say, here's the child tax care credit, and she
talks about how it's going to help, you know, buy
baby food and maybe buy a car seat, buy some
baby clothes and stuff like that. Okay, are you going
to limit it to that or can they use that
money to make a car payment, pay the rent a

(20:42):
couple of months.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
What my proposal includes what would be a tax credit
of twenty five thousand dollars for first time home buyers
so they can just have enough to put a down
payment on a home, which is part of the American dream,
and they're asked ration, but do it in a way
that allows them to actually get on the path to

(21:04):
achieving that goal in that dream.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
So you have been vice president for three and a
half years. The steps that you're talking about, now, why
haven't you done them already?

Speaker 1 (21:14):
An excellent question. You've been part of an administration for
three and a half years. In fact, you're the vice president.
You talk about how you're in the room with the
president all the time and all these big decisions. Then
why aren't you doing this? You know, this is for
a brief five seconds, is real journalism. So you've been

(21:35):
president for three and a half years, why haven't you
done it?

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Well, first of all, we had to recover as an economy,
and we have done that. I'm very proud of the work.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
So we can't walk in chew gum. At the same time,
we can't in other words, we had to pass all
these other bills which were our pet projects, like the
Green New Energy Deal disguise as the Inflation Reduction Act.
We were more concerned about spending money than we were
trying to fix the economy.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
That we have done that has brought inflation down to
less than three percent, The work that we have done
to cap the cost of insulin at thirty five dollars
a month for seniors.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
You know, I'm always fascinated by this insulent issue. I
know we got a lot of fat ass people in
the country, and I know we have an obesity epidemic.
But I'd like to know what the percentage of Americans
that use insulin is. Is that ninety percent? So is
this capping the price of insulin? Is that something that's

(22:34):
helping ninety percent of Americans. I'm always fascinated how democrats
and someone to beat Republicans will always go right back, well,
you know, we're going to cap the price of insulin.
Have you ever thought about just you're going to cap
the price of insulin. How much you cap the price
of gasoline? How about you capped the price of rent?

(22:54):
How much you capped the price of Oh wait a minute,
those are presce controls. So it's okay, and somehow it's
a winning issue to talk about how you're going to
cap the price of insulin, something in which I don't
think the majority of Americans actually use. Now, if you're
on insulin. I understand this. You're all for this because

(23:15):
this is saving you money. Well, you know what, I
take a blood pressure medication. In fact, I probably need
to double one over between now and the election. How
about you cap the price of that? Huh? Let me
just be selfish on don't you cap the price of that? Fact?
Why don't you just cap the price of everything while
you're at it. If capping the price of insulin is

(23:36):
the solution to, you know, solving the American's economic problems.
Once you cap the price of everything, you see, I'd
love to take things that are logical conclusion. If capping
the price of insulin is such a great deal, then
cap the price of bread, Cap the price of gas,
cap the price of milk, cap the price of everything.
This is Marxism.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
Donald Trump said he was going to do a number
of things, including allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices. Never happened.
We did it so now and as I travel in
the state of Georgia and around our country, the number
of seniors that have benefited I've met. I was in
Nevada recently a grandmother who showed me her receipts, and
before we capped the cost of insulin for seniors at

(24:19):
thirty five dollars unless she was playing hundreds of dollars
up to thousands of dollars a month for her insulin.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Okay, we have a grandmother in Vegas or somewhere in Nevada,
and she was paying one hundred, now some times one
thousand dollars a month for insulin. All right, that's a
great example. Want you do the same thing for everything else?
Why do we keep coming back to this? This is
the most shallow answer. This is the most shallow thinking,

(24:48):
and quite frankly, it's the most insightful thinking when you
think about when you and I think about what's went
through her brain right now. Her solution is I can
buy votes by capping the price something, then tap the
price of everything.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
She's not doing that, And you maintain bionomics is a success.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
I maintain that when we do the work of bringing
down prescription medication for the American people, including capping the
cost of the annual cost of prescription medication for seniors
at two thousand dollars, when we do what we did
in the first year of being in office to extend
the child tax credit so that we cut child poverty
in America by over fifty percent. When we do what

(25:29):
we have done to invest in the American people.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Spend Remember the word invest is actually spent.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
On bringing manufacturing back to the United States, so that
we created over eight hundred thousand new manufacturing jobs bringing
business back to America.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
The eight hundred thousand new manufacturing jobs is a lie.
It's just a lie. In fact, any jobs, the majority
of jobs that they want to take credit for is
again the person that reached down for the car keys
and turned on the economic engine and said, okay, you

(26:07):
can go back to work now. And so people went
back to a job. And so now that counts as
a new job. They saved a job, they recovered a job,
and we're supposed to believe this what we have.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
Done to improve the supply chain, so we're not relying
on foreign governments to supply American families with their basic needs.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Now, I love this answer. Here's your challenge. I did
this the other day. So I was in the mall
and I had to go pick up something that I
had ordered, and I was walking through the store and
I thought, I how much of this stuff is made

(26:50):
in China? So I just started looking just randomly looking. Now,
not everything. Some of it was made in Mexico, some
of it was made in Vietnam, some of it was
made in Cambodia, some of it was made in China,
some some was actually making in Canada. I found very
few things made in this country. Very few things. So

(27:14):
what's she talking about?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
What?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Literally, what is she talking about? I challenge you for
your everyday things, because she says they fix they fixed
the supply chains and Americans no longer have to rely
on foreign countries for their everyday goods. So whatever you
go buy this weekend, if you go buy, you know,
some Hamburger buns, you go buy some ketchup, you go buy, Well,
all that stuff may be made in this country. But

(27:39):
whatever you go buy, if you go shopping and you
buy some stuff, look at where your stuff is made.
How much of it is made in America. I just
I just can't believe that she just this. This is
the post truth world that we now live in.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
I'll say that that's good work. There's more to do,
but that's work.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I want to get some clarity on where you stand
on some key policy issues. Energy is a big one.
When you were in Congress, you supported the Green New Deal,
and in twenty nineteen you said, quote, there is no
question I'm in favor of banning fracking. Cracking, as you know,
is a pretty big issue, particularly in your must win

(28:21):
state of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Do you still want to ban fracking?

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Now, we're going to go back in a minute to
this two thousand. Well, I'll let you hear her answer,
but ask yourself, do you really believe anything that she
is saying? If you do, let me disavow you of

(28:48):
that with this answer.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
No, And I made that clear on the debate stage
in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Okay, so I made that clear on the debate stage
in twenty twenty. Did she How did she make that
clear on the debate stage in twenty twenty, because I'm
not quite sure that she did. Because she was pretty
adamant about her fracking stance. She was pretty adamant that,

(29:19):
you know, fracking was something that we needed to get
rid of. She went on incessantly about how she was
going to ban fracking. And yet somehow we're supposed to
believe that now she has changed her mind and she
is not going to ban fracking. It's just other. It's

(29:44):
just utter nonsense, Absolutely utter nonsense. You'll hear why next?
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(30:07):
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So I know that politicians lie. I mean, master the

(30:28):
obvious there, right, politicians lie. But Kamala Harris, you're going
to hear a side by side She just said in
the interview with Nana Bash that Well, let's go.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Back to the question key policy issues. Energy is a
big one.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
When you were in Congress, you supported the Green New Deal,
and in twenty nineteen you said, quote, there is no
question I'm in favor of banning fracking. Cracking, as you know,
is a pretty big issue, particularly in your must win
state of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Do you still want to ban fracking?

Speaker 5 (31:08):
No? And I made that clear on the debate stage
in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Okay, she made that clear on the debate stage in
twenty twenty, So let's do this. Let's go to the
debate stage in twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking. You
know that we have to just acknowledge that the residual
impact of fracking is enormous in terms of the impact
on the health and safety of communities. I think about
this issue through the lens of my baby nieces.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Oh, she's going to not only in that now she
just told us that she said back in the debate
back in twenty twenty, that no, I changed my mind
back in twenty twenty. Well, now we're listening to her
from twenty twenty on that debate stage, and not only

(31:59):
she's still in favor of banning fracking, but she is
bringing in her poor little nieces. This woman is a
despicable lawyer.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking. You
know that we have to just acknowledge that the residual
impact of fracking is enormous in terms of the impact
on the health and safety of communities. I think about
this issue through the lens of my baby nieces who
are one and a half.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
And three years old.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
And when I look at those babies and I think
about what the world will be like in twenty years
if we don't act, I'm really afraid. And as it
relates to those Republicans in Congress, where I've now been
for two and a half years, every one of those
members needs to look at the babies, the grand babies
in their life, and then look in the mirror and
ask themselves why have they failed to act?

Speaker 3 (32:50):
And in twenty nineteen, you said, quote, there is no
question I'm in favor of banning fracking. Cracking, as you know,
is a pretty big issue, particularly in your must in
state of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Do you still want to banfracking?

Speaker 5 (33:04):
No? And I made that clear on the debate stage
in twenty twenty that I would not banfracking as vice president,
I did not banfracking. As president, I will not bandfracking.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Were you lying then or are you lying now? This
woman is pathological. Not only not only do I think
she's not very smart, but she's pathological. I mean, this
is the twenty first century. We do have the Internet

(33:37):
and the Internet does live on forever, and so we
can go back and we can hear what she said,
I so desperately want to drill this no pun intended,
I do so desperately want to practice into your brain. Again,

(33:58):
Let's go back to that debates where she says, Oh,
but you know I made it clear on that debate
stage back in twenty twenty that you know I was
not opposed to fracking.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
You know, there's no question I'm in favor of baming fracking.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
That we have to just acknowledge that the residual impact
of fracking is enormous in terms of the impact on
the health and safety of communities.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Now, I don't know why you can hear it in
her voice, but on the video, when she starts talking
about her nieces, she gets really emotional. And then when
she talks about those Republicans in Congress, she gets really angry,
and she starts She's like, Nancy Pelosi, what is it
about women in California that wag their fingers at us
all the time? What is that? Listen to the.

Speaker 5 (34:47):
Voice I think about this issue through the lens of
my baby nieces who are one and a half and
three years old. And when I look at those babies
and I think about what the world will be like
in twenty years if we don't act, I'm really afraid.
And as it relates to those Republicans in Congress, where

(35:08):
I've now been for two and a half years, every
one of those members need to look at the babies,
the grand babies in their lives, and then look in
the mirror and ask themselves why have they failed to act?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
And you know, this is utterly fascinating to me if
you go back to the first hour when I talked
about we live in a post truth society where you
can just say anything and get by with it. Nobody's
gonna nobody's gonna you know, nobody's gonna fact check you, unless,
of course, you happen to be a conservative for your
Republican and they're going to fact check the hell out

(35:40):
of you, and then they're just going to make up
stuff with about you. Anyway, here we have her own record,
and now she's trying to tell us that neither as president,
well I have it as Vice president. Well, of course
you haven't, because you don't have any power to do that,
and nor would I as president, would I ban fracking?
Wonder why, you know, there's always I'm always curious about

(36:02):
why people change their minds that.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
I would not ban forracking. As vice president, I did
not ban fracking. As president, I will not banfracking.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
In twenty nineteen, I believe in a town hall you
said you were asked, would you commit to implementing a
federal ban on fracking on your first day in office?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
And you said, there's no question in favor of banning fracking.
So yes. So it changed in that campaign.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
In twenty twenty. I made very clear where I stand.
We are in twenty twenty four and I've not changed
that position, nor will I going forward. I kept my
word and I will keep my word.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
What made you change that position at the time, Well.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
Let's be clear. My values have not changed.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
My values have not changed. Can someone explain, I mean,
is that just my values were always that I'm going
to just lie and do whatever it takes to win. Yeah,
I think those are our values. It's the weekend with
Michael Brown, Labor Day weekend. I appreciate you tuning in
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