6-26-25 - 7am - DPS Lawsuits, Illegal Aliens in the Census and Eat Bugs

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
For any remaining wealthy New yorkers and businesses in New
York City. Let's see how quickly all of them exit
the city if a socialist is truly elected the mayor
in the general election.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
A couple of stories about that nominee indicate that, you know,
like Hollywood, I'm you know, we're going to flee to
you know, we're we're going to leave the country. Well,
now a lot of wealthy people in New York are
saying they're going to flee to Florida. A friend of
mine who lives in New York has sent me a text.
I don't know whether it's I mean, I texted back

(00:40):
and asking you know, what's the source. But apparently Andrew
Cuomo has said that he is not going to run
as an independent. He's going to drop out of the
Democrat Party run as an independent, which would mean it
would the vote because Eric Adams is running isn't independent,

(01:03):
And they said he's gonna move to Florida. A Cuomo
leaving New York and moving to Florida, I'll believe when
I see it. Have you ever served on a board
of any sort, you know, a trade association, uh, a
school board, a board of directors of a private lead
or publicly trade a private company or publicly traded company,

(01:26):
any any sort of board of directors, because if you
have you know that you have a fiduciary responsibility to
the organization. And part of your job is to you know,
set the strategy, you know, put together the budget, do
all of these things, and and to manage the litigation

(01:48):
so that if your organization gets sued, you are I
think responsible for, you know, making sure that the CEO.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Or your executive director, whomever it is.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
That with in consultation with the board, do we have
you know, liability insurance in place. Are we going to coordinate,
do we need outside council? How are we going to
manage and make sure the outside council doesn't you know,
run away with expenses and legal fees, you know, like
City and County of Denver when when Mike Johnston was

(02:23):
subpoena to testify before Congress about sanctuary city status, they
hired an outside law firm to represent Mike Johnston as
the mayor. And you know, the last we heard it
was up to what one or one point five million
dollars was the retainer amount, and then they were going
to bill against that, and they had already built up

(02:44):
a quarter of a million dollars or something, none of
which surprises me. It seems, you know, for you know,
for a you know, a big uh white shoe law
firm in d C. That's those figures don't shock me
at all. But that whole process seems to be pretty normal.

(03:05):
From chalk Beat Colorado comes this story proposed policy. This
is the headline. Proposed policy would require Denver Public schools
to report how much it spends on lawsuits. Now, when
I without reading the story, I thought, you know, you know,

(03:26):
play my stupid brain works. I'm thinking, oh, well, they're
not telling the public how much they're spending on lawsuits.
That's that's what I assume the story was about until
I started reading it.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
School board member Kimberly THEA c.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
SC I don't know si A said she often gets
questions about how many people are suing the district she represents,
Denver Public Schools.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
She says, and she's quoted in.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
The story, I have constituents who call me who say, quote,
I'm one of three lawsuits at my school. You should
check into how many lawsuits are happening at the district
a proposed policy. Just let me read this paragraph verbatim.
Somebody tell me what the hell I'm missing here. A

(04:15):
proposed policy that SIA introduced this month would require Denver
Public Schools to disclose that information and more. The proposal
says the district would have to provide the school board
with a list of lawsuits Denver Public Schools is involved

(04:37):
in and a tallly of how much it spends on
external legal costs. The proposal says the school district would
have to provide the school board with a list of lawsuits.
How in the hell does the school board not already

(05:00):
know what the lawsuits are? So is the superintendent and
the administrative staff with holding from the school board. Hey,
we you know we got sued uh, and we you
know we gotta we got a slip and fall case,
and we've got a union case. We've got a wrongful

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termination case. We've got, you know, a wrongful death case.
We've got a traffic you know, a property damage case.
We've got a liability case of some sort. You don't
already know that? So this school board member goes on
and she's she's quoted as saying it's important for the

(05:42):
board to ensure we are taking care of the school district.
No feefy Sherlock. That's your job, that's your fiduciary responsibility.
It's important for the board to ensure we are taking
care of the school district. And if we are having
a lot of lawsuits that are happening and paying a
lot of dat image, that falls under our fiduciary responsibilities

(06:04):
to know that, that tells me. She's saying they don't
know about it. How does that happen? Is Colorado's education
system so effed up, so screwed up that superintendents and
principles and administrators are running amok and school boards have

(06:28):
no oversight whatsoever. The information the story says, the information
that the policy seeks, this policy they're trying to get
the board to adopt. The information that the policy seeks
to disclose is not otherwise publicly available. Chalk Beat Violent
opens records requests for it, but Denver Public Schools did

(06:52):
not provide it. DPS said it had a list of
the lawsuits that the district's General Council was responsible for coordinating,
including whether DPS won each lawsuit and any monetary damages
it incurred, but the district declined to release that information,
citing a state law that allows records to be withheld

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if they contain trade secrets, privileged information, or confidential financial data. Historically,
story goes on, Denver Public Schools has handled some lawsuits
on its own and used outside council for others, such
as the two lawsuits filed by those former deans who

(07:36):
were shot at East High School. Back in twenty twenty three,
DPS said it did not have any lists or spreadsheets
that contained the other information that Chalk be requested. That
information included all regulatory or legal compliance violations reported in
the district, broken down by school, a total of monetary

(07:58):
damages incurred by the discretc a total of monetary awards
won by the district, and a total of the district's
external legal costs. See is proposed again just from the story.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
C is proposal.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
The school Board's members proposal would require all of that
information to be reported annually to the board for each
of the prior three years. So you're not providing that
to the board. A elected members of the school board

(08:36):
serving a school district who have a fiduciary responsibility to
see that the superintendent that the principles that all the administrators,
all of the people that are in management, in fact,
for that matter, teachers themselves, are fulfilling the board's strategic vision,

(08:58):
fulfilling the board's policies that I thought they established. Needs
me to ask you a question, who's in charge? Is
the school board in charge or is the school superintendent
in charge? The school superintendent is supposed to be an
employee of the school district, which is managed by the

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school board. SIA introduced the proposed legal council policy at
a June five board meeting. The board is expected to
resume debate on it this fall after its summer break.
Now that paragraph through me, I guess I'm just pleading

(09:42):
absolute utter ignorance here the school boards on break. There's
nothing going on during the summer. You're not busy hiring teachers,
setting budgets, reviewing policies, making sure that any maintenance, some
stuff you need to be prepared for to open the schools.

(10:03):
You know, come in the fall, you just go away.
What do you think you are? Members of Congress? You
just go away for the summer. Holy crap. In addition
to requiring more transparency about the district's legal liabilities. The
proposal lays out when and how the school board itself
should hire outside lawyers, and when it should or should

(10:25):
not use the districts in house attorneys. You mean you
don't have a policy that already establishes that, or alternatively,
that should be part of your job. So I, you know,

(10:45):
let's say that for whatever reason, just make up any reason.
I go to Dan then campus and say, you know,
I want to school. I want to sue the Denver
Public Schools for what it does. Means, for whatever reason
they you know, a school bus ran over me. So

(11:05):
Dan prepares the petition, files it in you know, Denver
district court, and serves a summons. Now I don't know
whether he would serve the summons on each of the
school board members, or on the superintendent, or on all
of the above. Or perhaps the Denver Public Schools already

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has what's called a service agent, meaning they have a
lawyer already designated, perhaps they're in house counsel, assuming they
have in house counsel, and so Dan would serve that individual.
So that individual by either a process server or by
you know, certified mail, or by a sheriff. However they
get served that service agent receives the summons. That service

(11:52):
agent is then obligated to tell his client, the Denver
Public Schools Michael Brown has sued you. You're telling me
the school board wouldn't know that. You're telling me it's
the school board wouldn't know that. The dan Capitalist Law
on behalf of Michael D. Brown has sued you for
you know, personal injury of some sort. I find this astonishing.

(12:16):
What I so astonishing that I've convinced myself I'm missing something.
The story continues, The board already hires outside lawyers on
occasion and seeas said, the policy is meant to put
current practice on paper. Okay, well that's reasonable if you

(12:38):
want to have a some sort of matrix by which
you measure, Hey, is this the case that we need
outside counsel or we're going to use in house counsel.
And quite frankly, if the school board has a liability policy,
oftentimes the insurance company will dictate what you're going to do.
You have a malpractice policy, you have, you know, whatever

(13:01):
kind of liability policy you might have. The insurance company
itself will obviously get notified by the school that, hey,
we've been sued, and they'll say, well, we're going to
sign a lawyer for it because this is a case
that we want to litigate. And you know, your in
house counsel, Will is more than welcome to be of

(13:24):
counsel with us, but we're going to be the lead
counsel in this since we're ultimately going to be the
ones that would have to pay out any judgment. Now,
if it doesn't involve a liability policy, then probably that
would not happen. But to think that a school board
is considering a policy that says, if we get sued,

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you have whoever you is, has to tell us about it,
and we need to keep track of who it is,
and we need to keep track of how much we
spend on these lawsuits, and we need to keep track
of whether the general council for denver from public schools.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Which I don't really know, is that that may be.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
You know, sometimes a general counsel to a school district
might be a law a private law practice, and somebody
in that firm acts as the general council for the board,
or they may actually hire an in house lawyer that
that's their only client, and so they actually have an
office in the school board offices and They're there to

(14:28):
answer questions, you know, from teachers and superintendent and administrators
and the board itself, and may attend the school board meetings.
Then they provide the legal advice. I mean, it's like
what it's what happens in the real world. But I
know public education is not the real world. It's pretty fake.
But the idea that this is going on and that
they need some sort of policy to do this seems

(14:52):
to me that things are pretty screwed up. So if
you let me check text messages real quickly if I'm
missing something in this, I want to know. No nobody
said anything. So if you know of some reason why

(15:16):
the Denver school Board, which oversees the Denver Public Schools,
would not know about a lawsuit filed against a school
a teacher, you know, acting in their official capacity obviously,
or the superintendent or just the you know it's Michael D.

(15:37):
Brown versus Denver Public Schools, Why would the school board not.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Know about that?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
And why would we suddenly, why would CHOPP be be
reporting that this one school board member what was her
name again, Sea, Kimberly Sea, She's the one that started
the story. I often get questions about how many people
are suing the district. I have constituents who call me

(16:05):
who say I'm one of the three. I'm one of
three lawsuits at my school. You should check into how
many lawsuits are happening in the district. And she's basically saying, yeah,
I probably should. I when I think of all the
ways that Colorado is screwed up, this seems like such

(16:25):
a basic, the most basic thing of how you manage
an organization. iHeartMedia.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Now.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
I know it's a much larger organization, has much larger
revenues and expenditures and much more employees. But we have
both general counsel, somebody that is on the fact they
are on the board of directors, and we have outside council.
We have lots of outside councils. We got outside councils

(16:57):
that deals with lobbying issues, d C. We have outside
council that deals with patent issues. We have outside council
that deals with the FCC. We have outside council that
deals with employment matters. And we're not we're not a
fortune you know, one hundred company. But nonetheless, the board,

(17:19):
the iHeart board knows about lawsuits, even if it's just
some even if it's just some minor lawsuit that occurs
in some you know, small market somewhere, you know, in
a in market ranked number eighty ninth. The board will
still know about that lawsuit because it will be in

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their pocket when they have a board meeting that Oh,
just as a notation, we've been sued in uh, we've
been sued in Tulsa, Oklahoma over some issue, and you
need to be aware of it. And it might be
questions about okay, well, you know what are the odds,
you know, what's the likelihood and is the insurance coming involved?

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Will be going to settle it? Not settle up? Blah
blah blah blah in the school board. No clue, no clue.
Let's look.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
So if you're looking for some free money, go through
the Denver school Board, because I have no idea what
they're paying of Michael.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
It has taking us almost three and a half years,
and really it took getting rid of the superintendent to
finally take control.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Of the school board.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Four of us got elected in to take it over
three years ago or four years ago, and it's just
now coming under our control. The superintendents are deeply entwined
and yes, running the districts.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Unfortunately, I find that astonishing. I'm absurd, and maybe that's
just something the general public doesn't understand. But superintendents are
hired by the school board to administer the school board's policies. Now,

(19:09):
there's always a give and take school you know, superintendents
will have certain policies that they want to implement. And
unless the board's just Willy Nelly carte Blanc just given,
you know, you just go make up the rules, then
that's on the school board. And now if you're trying
to pull that and breake that power back in, then

(19:31):
congratulations on you accomplishing it. But then if that's true
for every school district around the state, man, no wonder
education in Colorado is so screwed up. One of the
first executive orders that the President signed back on January twentieth,
in section two Revocation of Orders and Actions, The following

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the executive actions are hereby revoked, and the second one
listed is Executive Order thirteen nine eighty six of January twenty,
twenty twenty one parentheses ensuring a lawful and accurate Enumeration
and Appointment pursuant to the Dissential Census. So following a

(20:15):
year Gear's long surgeon illegal immigration. The Trump administration is
right now poised to challenge a long standing but I
think legally fraud practice counting illegal aliens in the US census. Now,
Trump tried to do this during his first term, but

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Biden overturned that policy before it was implemented. Now, Trump,
bulleyed by red state attorney's general and Republican legislators, the
second Trump administration is determined to quote clean up the
census and make sure that illegal aliens are now are
not counted, according to White House w chief of Staff

(20:59):
Stephen Miller, he's deputy chief of Staff for policy. Now,
what Miller did not mention are the amazing political implications
of this move. The census count. As you know, but
I have to say it. The census count is used
to apportion House seats, to determine the number of votes
that every state gets in the electoral college for selecting

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the president. And of course that also drives the flow
of trillions of dollars in government funds. Now, some immigration
researchers project that including non citizens in the census count
disproportionately benefits Democrat states that have huge illegal alien populations.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Duh.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
There's a recent study that counters that. Based on the
twenty twenty census figures, they claim that there would have
been a negligible.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Shift to the political.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Map had the government excluded non citizens from that count.
But looking backward, those same researchers found that had authorities
excluded illegal aliens from the twenty ten census, these states
all would have gained one seat in the House. Louisiana, Missouri, Montana, Ohio,

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and North Carolina each would have gained one California would
have lost three seat seats, and both Texas and Florida
would have each lost one seat, And then the total
number of Electric College votes obviously allocated for each state
would have changed Accordingly. It is something that needs to

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be done, and it needs to be done quickly, regardless
of I would put it this way, regardless of whether
it benefits Democrats or Republicans. Now don't don't have a
visceral reaction to this. I think, regardless of who it benefits,

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regardless of who it hurts, we should not count non
citizens in the country. The census is meant to enumerate
those people living in the country. Those people are citizens
of the country. For example, We don't count diplomats, we

(23:29):
don't count tourists. We don't count people who are you know,
on any given day that the census is being conducted.
We don't people that are sitting in the lounge at
the United Club at Denver International Airport. Well, Michael, they're
just they're just you know, flying from you know, they're
just making a connection to go on to Tokyo. Well,

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they're in the country. So why wouldn't we If we're
going to count illegal aliens, why wouldn't we count people
who are here for six months?

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Six months?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Here's sty and they just happen to be here during
the six months the census is being counted, and they
happen to.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Be bringing an Airbnb.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
So, you know, the census worker comes by, knocks on
the door, somebody answers the door, and they're from They're
from Tokyo. They're here on some sabbatical studying something. Why
should the census counter count them. They're not here permanently.
And even if they were here on a green card,

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should we count them? Well maybe a green card, yes,
but they're on a tourist visa. Why why would we
count them? Or they're here, they're not even here on
a tourist visa. They're just here because they came in fact,
Japan would be an example, or the UK. They've come
from London and they decide they wanted to become skiing
and they're going to spend you know, three months skiing.
And so they've rented a condo in Breckenridge or more

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likely Aspen. So they've rented a condo in Aspen. And
the census is over in Pittkin, CA, doing account. Why
should they count them? They shouldn't at all, not at all.
Since the first census in seventeen ninety, we have counted
not only citizens but also residents to determine representation. So,

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citing the long history, defenders the practice say it's only
fair the states should be given the power and the
resources to represent and serve everyone within their borders. Okay,
is there no limitation on that whatsoever. On the other hand,
critics contend that the government's powers comes from we the people, citizens,

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eligible voters, a government established before tens of millions of
illegal aliens resided into the country illegally. I would say
that the practice dilutes the representation of American citizens. Will
at the same time that incentivizes localities, sanctuary cities, or
states sanctuary states to promote illegal immigration. If this administration,

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his first term, really indicates what they're after, if they pursue,
vigorously pursue a citizen centric census policy. Back in July
of twenty twenty, when the President issued a memorandum to
exclude illegal aliens from the census, blue states and immigration
groups did what they immediately challenged it in the courts,

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and those challenges went all the way to the Supreme Court,
but it did not rule on the merits. So whether
all residents must be counted, and if the president has
the authority to exclude non residents, that will set the
stage for a battle over the issue of illegal aliens
and presidential power. You know, the census itself hinges on

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the Constitution's language, which calls for apportioning House seats among
the states according to their respective numbers.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Now, those numbers.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Originally included free persons and three fifths of all other persons,
obviously the slaves. That was a result of the Great Compromise.
The Framers excluded Indians not taxed Native Americans who were
members of sovereign tribal nations not citizens from the count
so there is some precedent. We didn't count Native Americans

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because they were members of a sovereign nation, even though
they were on US territory, US soil. And then you've
got the fourteenth Amendment, which was to what recognized the
rights of the former slaves, and it says the congressional
representation shall be a portion among the several states according

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to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons
in each state, again excluding Indians not taxed. And then
under the Citizen Indian Citizenship Act of nineteen nineteen twenty four,
I think that population was granted citizenship and therefore started
counting them. It just seems to me that what we

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ought to be doing is counting citizens forget, you know.
And I would even say, as long as we have
birthright citizenship, those should be counted. Their illegal alien parents
should not be counted. I know this will end up

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in the courts. The first Trump administration. Their argument was
that persons in each state, coupled with the Fourteenth Amendment,
had long been interpreted to mean inhabitants, and inhabitants do
not include just every individual physically present within the state's
at the time of the census, because they're here, then

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they're not here, they're traveling through, they're here temporarily. They
and we never we've always excluded temporary aliens, and we've
always excluded foreign diplomatic personnel for a full reasons of apportionment.
And I think that's a sound reason not to count
illegal aliens.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Good morning, Michael and Dragon. I worked the twenty twenty
census and it was a hot, sticky, nasty time as
they did it in July and August instead of the
typical April May period because of COVID. But when I
went through my training, I asked right up front, do
we ask if they're citizens? I got a nasty answer,

(29:47):
and I said, well, shouldn't we just count citizens? And
ooh they didn't like that. Yep, I worked these coal facts.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Oh you should get hazard payed for that. Cal I
think I know who that was. I don't mean to
way it's gonna say I, but I'm not surprised you
you worked East Goal Facts. I assume you work East
Coal Facts just simply because well, your office happens to
be over by East Goal Facts.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
But you could read that anyway you want.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
To well, I know why you worked East Goull facts,
because you're working East Goal facts all the time.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Anyway, The Guardian.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I love the Guardian newspaper because sometimes it's just so
full of crap it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
They're now touting a new.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Study excreted by the so called expert class that says
we ought to eat insects instead of food.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
They're never gonna let this go quote.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Farming and eating insects has been touted in recent years
as a greener alternative to eating traditional meat due to
the heavy environmental toe of raising livestock, which is a
leading driver of deforestation, responsible for more than half of
global water pollution, and may cause more than a third
of all greenhouse gases that can be allowed if the
world is to avoid disastrous climate change. The new research

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finds researchers at the MPJ Sustainable Agriculture have made the
remarkable discovery that people don't want to eat bugs because
they find the concept disgusting, and that upsets the Guardian newspaper.
Few governments have made any significant moves to curb meat consumption,

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despite its enormous impact upon the environment, fearing political backlash.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Any time that I hear a government not wanting to
do something because they fear political backlash. That's just a
reminder that we the people can actually be scary sometimes.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Now.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I know that when I just see the general public,
like I haven't encountered this morning, just stopping to get
my diet coked parking lot road rage. Yeah, so I
know people are backcrapped crazy out there.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
He claimed.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I pulled into my parking spot too quickly. Yes, what
is there? Is there a speed limit to pull into
a parking lot? Into a parking space, dragon.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
You are kind of a lead foot, so maybebe.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Well, I didn't pull in so fast that I was
going to hit the ballards in front of me, like
like you know, I screeched and you'll laid down some
ros where the skid marks behind you all about twenty feet.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Seemed to normal, That's yeah, I thought that was pretty normal.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
So for the time being, all the social engineers are
going to keep wasting their money on these unpalatable food
alternatives and then naginess that we're offending the climate by
eating just a normal human diet. So yes, continue to
laugh at them, but except at some point I think
they'll resort to force, because that's what leftists always do.

(32:59):
And the sure with the climate activist coengre agains are
getting really upset that we just don't want to eat bugs. Now,
maybe if you just took all of the you know,
the cockroaches and put them in a blender and mix
them with you know, some sort of protein shake, maybe
that would be palpable enough for you. But that's not
what I want. A friend of mine and I are

(33:21):
trying to figure out where to go to lunch. I
want meat. Not I don't want impossible meat. I want
real meat. I want to eat something really damn good. Yeah,
maybe some fried chicken at least some fried chicken. One
of the always bitch about beef, not about chickens.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Insects.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
We know, the only time I eating insect is if
I'm running around outside in a gnat or something flies
into my mouth, then I'll eat an insect. Yep, social
engineering everywhere you turn, crang tight. Speaking of the environment,