6-26-25 - 8am - Pentagon Briefing

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Horn and fair of face.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Morning Ding dong.

Speaker 3 (00:02):
Hey, I'm just kind of curious. The census doesn't count
people that are staying in hotels and motels, do they?
I mean, you know, that would just boost the numbers
for people for representation. Most of the people who stay
in motels are US citizens, but they don't get counted correctly,

(00:24):
even if they are just passing by. Kind of seems
weird that they be doing the illegal.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
I think we just, well, don't we just make up
a number every state? Just make it, just make up
a number. I don't normally do this, and it's and
it's risky because it may just fall flat on its face.
But because I'm curious, then I want you to be curious.
At eight o'clock Eastern time six o'clock our time, the

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Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs
held a news conference to hold a second briefing on
the success of the Iranian strikes. Well, I've been watching
and our clipping service hasn't posted anything, but a couple
of other outlets have. Let's see one, Fox News has

(01:17):
posted something and MSNB has posted something. So let's start
with Fox because they start out with Hegsath at the beginning,
and let's listen to what he had to say. I'm honestly,
with all due respect to the Secretary of Defense, I'm
more interested in what the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs

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had to say. But let's listen to a couple of
minutes of the Secretary of Defense, and then we'll skip
back over and we'll go to the General Kine and
see what he had to say. So here we go.
Let's we're doing this together. Find out what they said.
Maybe interesting, dolls.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Hell, game changing and historic, a shift in burden sharing
to European responsibility in NATO that most would have said
was impossible at the beginning of his term.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
But he said NATO needs to pay up.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
They started in the first term, and here in his
second term, we've accelerated that.

Speaker 6 (02:23):
Thirty two NATO countries committed to spending five percent.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Of their GDP on defense on actually investing in the
NATO alliance.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
So I hope, with.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
All the inkspilled, all of your outlets find the time
to properly recognize this historic change in continental security that
other presidents tried to do, other presidents talked about.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
President Trump accomplished it. It's a huge deal.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
You see, we're here this morning because in hunting for
scandals all the time, in trying to find wedges and
spin stories, Corps and the press Corps miss historic moments,
miss historic moments like five percent at NATO, which when
you hear I was in the closed door briefing, I

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wish there could have been cameras in there when you
heard the prime ministers and presidents of other countries to
a man and to a woman looking at President Trump
and saying, this never could.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Have happened, never would have happened.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
This seemed impossible five years ago, two years ago, eight
years ago.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
But here we are because of your leadership. If you
ask them the question, I bet they'd say the same thing.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
But searching for scandals, you miss historic moments like recruiting
at the Pentagon historic levels, and the Army, the Air Force,
and the Navy.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
Yeah, maybe there'll be a little mention here or there.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
But because it was under President Trump's leadership, because it
was because Americans are responding to him as commander in chief,
the press Corps doesn't want to write about it or
bring us to the topic of the moment.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
On the highly successful strikes in Iran. Let me read
the bottom lying here.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
President Trump directed the most complex and secretive military operation
in history, and it was a resounding success, resulting in
a ceasefire agreement and the end of the Twelve Day War.
There's been a lot of discussions about what happened to
what didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Step back for a second.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Because of decisive military action, President Trump created the conditions
to end the war, decimating choose your word, obliterating, destroying
Iran's nuclear capabilities. I want to read some of the
assessments that have been provided, because whether it's fake news, CNN,

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MSNBC or the New York Times, there's been fawning coverage
of a preliminary assessment.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
I've had a chance to read it.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Every outlet has breathlessly reported on a preliminary assessment from DA.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
I want to pause it for just a moment. I
want to mention something about the Defense Intelligence Agency. There's
a hierarchy in the intelligence community and it the d
i A probably ranks in the bottom third of that hierarchy.

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And insofar as the PDB, the Presidential Daily brief when
when they when those briefers from the CIA or the
d N I would come to my office to give
that briefing in terms of a just take a topic.
Whatever the topic may be, doesn't make any difference. Let's
say there's some uprising in I don't know Poland. So

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an uprising is going on in Poland. Well, every part,
every aspect of the IC of the intelligence community will
have their human intelligence, their signal intelligence. They'll have their
their analysts back here in or or back there in
d C H or Fort Meta, wherever whoever it might be,
or Langley. Those analysts will take all that human and

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signal intelligence and they'll analyze it. They'll also analyze, interestingly,
analyze all of the stuff that's into public domain. What
are what are the local reporters saying, what are the
international reporters saying, what are the cable channels saying. They'll
they'll compare and contrast all of that. The point being,
there's this hierarchy, and the D I A is in

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the lower hierarchy. So if I'm looking at a chapter
in the daily Brief that happens to be on uprising
in Poland, there will be put together by the C
I A. Now the D and I there will be
the overall brief that takes into consideration all of the
other n s A, the the d i A, all

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of all all of the components, I mean even Homeland security.
Every component will have theirs, but there will be the
one at the top that is a compilation based on
their analysis, is of everybody else, and usually the d
i A is one of the first. Therefore one of

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the least reliable, and one that is not given as
much credence as what is normally given, particularly to the president.
Like you would not give the president just the d
I A briefing, they would get the entire ic briefing.
So when he talks about the Defense Intelligence Agency, I

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always took it with a slight eye of skepticism. It's
it's kind of the equivalent of the first reporter on
the scene of an accident, or the scene of a crime,
or the scene of a natural disaster. Those first reports
are generally and there's some truth to them, but they're
not entirely accurate, And as you get more contacts and

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more information, the entire com the entire complexity of that
particular report may change over time.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
I'm looking at it right now again. It was preliminary
A day and a half after the actual strike.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
When it admits itself.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
In writing that it requires weeks to accumulate the necessary
data to make such an assessment.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
It's preliminary.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
It points out that it's not been coordinated with the
intelligence community at all. There's low confidence in this particular
report's oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
The Secretary of Defense is making my exact point. So
I'm curious where he's going with this. But he just
made my point. I didn't know he's going to say that.
I just hadn't de positive there because he mentioned DA
and he just confirmed what I said.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
It says in the report. There are gaps in the information.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
It says in the report multiple lynchpin assumptions are what
this assessment a lynchpin assumption.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
You know what that is.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
It means your entire premise is predicated on a lynch pin.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
If you're wrong, everything else is wrong.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
And yet still this report acknowledge is it's likely severe damage.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
Again, this is preliminary, but.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Leaked because someone had an agenda to try to muddy
the waters and make it look like this historic strike
I wasn't successful. I'm gonna get to the chairman in
a moment because he's gonna lay out the particulars for
you based on his professional military experience.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
But here's what other folks are saying. The d IA
that put that.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
Report out says, this is a preliminary low confidence report
and will continue to be refined as additional intelligence becomes available.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Okay, if that's the case, then I want to I
want to skip that and let's just go I think
he's just gonna make whatever points he wants to make politically.
Let's instead go to General dan Kine the termine of
the Joint Jesus of Staff UH and see what he says.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Transfers.

Speaker 7 (09:53):
You got to get rid of that.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Thank you for thank you for being here.

Speaker 8 (09:57):
As a follow up to my comments on Sunday press conference,
I wanted to give you a few updates this.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Morning on something I'm honored to do as a.

Speaker 8 (10:06):
Chairman, and that's a chance to get to talk about
some of our service members and the incredible things that
they do on behalf of our nation. And I apologize
ahead of time for the length and the detail. Today,
I'm going to brief you on a couple of things. First,
I'm going to talk about our air defenders at al
you did in Qatar and their actions on Monday. Then
I'm going to walk you through a little bit about

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the academics that went into the attack against four dah,
the massive ordnance penetrator weapon, and we're going to show
a video that highlights the.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Effects that that weapon has.

Speaker 8 (10:39):
Of course, nobody was down inside the target, so we
don't have video from the target first. On Monday, as
the President has stated, on Monday morning, we began to
receive indications and warnings that Iran intended to attack US
bass in the region that morning. Building on the work
that Sencom Commander Eric Carilla had done and on the

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orders of the President. At Alud'd Airbase and Katar and
around the region, we assumed a minimum force posture.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Most folks had moved off.

Speaker 8 (11:12):
The base to extend the security perimeter out away from
what we assessed might be a target zone, except for
a very few Army soldiers at alu Ded at that point,
only two Patriot batteries remained on base.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Roughly forty four American.

Speaker 8 (11:32):
Soldiers responsible for defending the entire base to include Sencom's
forward headquarters in the Middle East and entire air base,
and all.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
The US forces there.

Speaker 8 (11:44):
The oldest soldier was a twenty eight year old captain.
The youngest was a twenty one year old private who'd
been in the military for less than two years. So
let's put ourselves out there for a second. Imagine you're
that young first lieutenant. You're twenty five or twenty six
years old, and you've been assigned as the tactical director

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inside the command and Control element. You at that age
are the sole person responsible to defend this base. Listening
next to you is your early warning operator, whose job
is to notify you of imminent attack. There's five people
inside a vehicle and five people outside of a vehicle

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around these total of as I said, forty four. By
the way, you've sat in the Middle East for years,
deployed over and over again, extended multiple times, always being prepared,
but unsure of when that particular day will come that
you must execute your mission and not fail at doing it.

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In this case, these Patriot crews were deployed from Korea
and Japan as part of our US forces there to
ensure that we had the most capable missiles in the
sentcom area of responsibility. As the day continues, you start
to hear more and more chatter in the information space
about an appending attack, and as the sun starts to

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set in the west, you get orders from your higher
headquarters to make sure that your missile batteries are pointed
to the north. There are just a few other teammates.
It's hot, you're getting nervous, and you expect an attack
outside of those Patriot vehicles. Your hot crew, which is
one NCO and four additional soldiers, turns a key and

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relinquishes control of those missiles to that young lieutenant inside
the vehicle.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
And you wait.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
You know that you're going to have approximately two minutes,
one hundred and twenty seconds to either succeed or fail.
And then at approximately twelve thirty pm on Monday, that's
seven thirty pm in Katar, as the sun sets in the.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
West, Iran attacks. As the targets were detected, round after round.

Speaker 8 (14:11):
Of Patriot missiles are ejected from their canisters by an
initial launch charge.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Then the main.

Speaker 8 (14:17):
Solid rocket motor ignites. You can feel this in your
body if you've ever been around a Patriot taking a shot,
and round after round goes out and guides against those
missiles coming inbound. We believe that this is the largest
single patriot engagement in US military history, and we were enjoyed.

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We were joined in this engagement by the Katari Patriot crews.
I'm not going to tell you how many rounds were shot,
but it was a bunch because of classified purposes, and
we're aware that something there's reports of something getting through.
What we do know is there was a lot of
metal flying around between attacking missiles being hit by Patriot boosters,

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from attacking missiles being hit by patriots, the Patriots themselves
flying around in the debris from those Patriots hitting the ground.
There was a lot of metal flying around, and yet
our US air defenders had only seconds to make complex
decisions with strategic impact. These awesome humans, along with their

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Katari brothers and sisters and arms, stood between a salvo
of Iranian missiles and the safety of value.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Deed, they are the.

Speaker 8 (15:30):
Unsung heroes of the twenty first century United States Army.
And I know a lot of you have seen the
videos online and the excitement as those Patriots departed their
launchers and went up and guided.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
This really demonstrates.

Speaker 8 (15:46):
The combat capability and capacity of our army Air defenders
simply stated, they absolutely crushed it.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
If you'd flip this over. Thanks. Let me Let me next.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
Move to a walkthrough of the GBU fifty seven Massive
Ordnance Penetrator weapon and share a little bit about the
planners who did this and their work on the weapon. First,
let me set the stage for you. There's an organization
in the US called the Defense Threat Reduction Agency DITRA.

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DITTRA does a lot of things for our nation, but
DITTRA is the world's leading expert on deeply buried underground targets.
In two thousand and nine, a Defense Threat Reduction Agency
officer was brought into a vault at an undisclosed location
and briefed on something going on in Iran. For security purposes,

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I'm not going to share his name. He was shown
some photos and some highly classified intelligence of what looked
like a major construction project.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
In the mountains of Iran.

Speaker 8 (16:56):
He was tasked to study this facility, work with the
diligence community to understand it, and he was soon joined
by an additional teammate. For more than fifteen years, this
off ser and his teammate lived and breathed this single
target four dough, a critical element of Iran's covert nuclear well.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
We haven't got to what they did though, Michael previous
talkbacker just call one of you there space.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
No, he's referring to Dragon.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
No, no, no, I'm ding Dong. You're fair and face.

Speaker 7 (17:34):
I'd rather be ding Dung.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
That sucks to you, then, Dragon, I.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Were just complaining during the break.

Speaker 7 (17:43):
Well, Dragon wasn't complaining.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
I was complaining about our clipping service, you know, something
as big as this briefing that they didn't already have it.

Speaker 7 (17:51):
Up for us to use.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
But during the break I did find, ironically on ABC News.
So ABC News has up on their website the part
where General kin the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, has
been describing what DITRA does.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
And I've got the whole thing up at Michael says,
go here dot com.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah, but don't go there yet. Listen here first, then
you can go there. So here's General Kane. I think
I found the inflection point where he really shifts from
He just described what DITRA does and how this team's
been working for years studying Fedor and what that site
is like and how it is, how it has been hardened.

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So now he's going to describe what they did. This
is what I wanted to hear.

Speaker 8 (18:37):
I am so honored to be a part of this.
To you both, thank you and thank you to your families.
Operation Midnight Hammer was the culmination of those fifteen years
of incredible work, the air crews, the tanker crews, the
weapons crews that built the weapons, the load crews that
loaded in.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Before I run through this video, today.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
I want to talk a little bit about weaponears and
what goes into an attack. Weaponeering is the science of
evaluating a target. I mentioned all of those factors before
that these two DITRA officers had thought about. Ultimately, weaponeering
is determining the right weapon and fuse combination to achieve

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the desired effects and maximum destruction against a target. In
the case of four DAH, the DITTER team understood with
a high degree of confidence the elements of the target
required to kill its functions, and the weapons were designed,
planned and delivered to ensure that they achieved the effects

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in the mission space. By the way, in the beginning
of its development, we had so many PhDs working on
the MOP program doing modeling and simulation that we were
quietly and in a secret way, the biggest users of
supercomputer hours within the United United States of America.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
N I don't want to hear from what's his name
from the shark tank, so we'll skip that and get
to skip and here we go.

Speaker 8 (20:15):
So let me talk about Let me talk about the
graphic a little bit. In the GBU fifty seven, which
all of you I know know, is a thirty thousand
pound weapon dropped only by the B two.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
It's comprised of.

Speaker 8 (20:29):
Steel, explosive and a fuse programmed bespokely each weapon to
achieve a particular effect inside the target. Each weapon had
a unique desired impact, angle, arrival, final heading. In a
fuse setting, the fuse is effectively what tells the.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Bomb when to function.

Speaker 8 (20:52):
A longer delay in a fuse, the deeper the weapon
will penetrate and drive into the target.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
So on four.

Speaker 8 (21:01):
Doh in June of two thousand and eight, you can
see these three holes depicted Here is the main exhaust shaft,
with two additional ventilation shafts on either side. The United
States decided to strike these two ventilation shafts seen here
on the main graphic as the primary point of entry

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into the mission space.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
In the days preceding.

Speaker 8 (21:26):
The attack against Fourdeaux, the Iranians attempted to cover the
shafts with concrete to try to prevent an attack.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I won't share the specific.

Speaker 8 (21:37):
Dimensions of the concrete cap, but you should know that
we know what the dimensions of those concrete caps were.
The planners had to account for this. They accounted for everything.
The cap was forcibly removed by the first weapon and
the main shaft was uncovered. Weapons two, three, four, five

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were tasked to enter the main shaft, move down into
the complex at greater than one thousand feet per second,
and explode in the mission space. Weapon number six was
designed on each side, so there were six on each side.
Weapons number six was designed as a flex weapon to

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allow us to cover if one of the preceding jets
or one of the preceding weapons did not work. The
video I'm about to show you is a culmination of
over fifteen years of development and testing. As I said,
hundreds of test shots on various models.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
This is one weapon.

Speaker 8 (22:43):
So if you take a view of this is five additionals,
you'll get a sense of what this looks like. Hopefully
you can see it and there's not too much reflection.
Tom runs our videos out there.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
We'll run it.

Speaker 8 (22:59):
At full speeds so you can see it and then
go back through it.

Speaker 7 (23:02):
Go ahead, Tom, and it shows the bomb going into
a ventilation, shows the penetration of the bomb as it penetrates,

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it waits.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
This is the part where you can go to Michael says,
go here dot com Yeah, and then it explodes after
it's gone down into the ventilation shaft.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Keep it going for a minute.

Speaker 8 (23:34):
You'll see the inside the mission space.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
So this will be the sixth or seventh bomb. Then
it explodes inside the space.

Speaker 8 (23:46):
Unlike a normal surface bomb, you won't see an impact
creator because they're designed to deeply bury and then function.
I know there's been a lot of questions about that.
All six weapons at each vent at four doh went
exactly where they were intended to go. A bomb has
three effects that causes damage, blast, fragmentation, and overpressure. In

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this case, the primary kill mechanism in the mission space
was a mix of overpressure and blasts ripping through the
open tunnels and destroying critical hardware. The majority of the
damage we assessed, based on our extensive modeling, was a
blast layer combined with the impulse extending from the shock.

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Imagine what this looks like six times over a point
that I want to make here. The Joint Force does
not do BDA by design. We don't grade our own homework.
The intelligence community does. But here's what we know following
the attacks and the strikes on four dough. First, that
the weapons were built, tested, and loaded properly.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Two, the weapons.

Speaker 8 (24:59):
Were released on speed and on parameters. Three the weapons
all guided to their intended targets and to their intended
aim points. For the weapons functioned as design, meaning they exploded.
We know this through other means, intelligence means that we
have that were visibly We were visibly able to see them,

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and we know that the trailing jets saw the first
weapons function and the pilots stated, quote, this was the
brightest explosion that I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
It literally looked like daylight.

Speaker 8 (25:35):
Let me now turn to the bomber crews themselves give
you a few details about them. The crews that attacked
Fordeaux were from the Active Duty Air Force and the
Missouri Air National Guard. The crews ranked from captain to colonel,
and most were graduates of the Air Force Weapons School
headquartered at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada. I will

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state for the record that there is no beach, volleyball,
or football at the Air Force Weapons School. They were
male and female aviators on this mission, and a crew
member told me when I talked to them on video
the other day that this felt like the Super Bowl,
the thousands of scientists, airmen, and maintainers all coming together.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
One last story about people.

Speaker 8 (26:21):
When the crews went to work on Friday, they kissed
their loved ones goodbye, not knowing when or if they'd
be home. Late on Saturday night, their families became aware
of what was happening, and on Sunday, when those jets
returned from White Men, their families were there, flags flying

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and tears flowing.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I have chills literally talking about this.

Speaker 8 (26:46):
The jets rejoined into a formation of four airplanes, followed
by a formation of three, and came up overhead white Men,
proudly in the traffic pattern, pitching out to land right
over the base and landing to the incredible cheers of
their families who sacrifice and serve right alongside their family members.

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Like I said, there were a lot of flags and
a lot of tears. One commander told me, this is
a moment in the lives of our families that they
will never forget that, my friends, is what America's Joint
Force does. We think, We develop, we train, we rehearse,
we test, we evaluate every single day, and when the

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call comes to deliver, we do so. I could not
be more proud standing up here today of our joint force.
I'm filled with gratitude that I get to tell their story.
And as we stand here right now, our forces remain
on a high state of readiness in the region, prepared
to defend themselves. And one last thing, our adversaries around

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the world should know that there are other Dittri team
members out there studying targets for the same amount of
time and we'll continue to do so.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Thank Wow.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Now that's pretty good. That's basically saying to our enemies,
you know we have these you know, the teams that
put together the planning, the modeling, everything for how we
would destroy this location. We've got teams studying other locations too. Wow,
you talk about a shout across the bow. Don't test us. Yeah,

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we'll be right back.

Speaker 9 (28:32):
Listening to that report that you just played really makes
me feel proud to be an American and proud that
Donald Trump is our president because he said don't don't
screw with us. Thanks Michael.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, that's why I want, you know, just a little
inside baseball.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
I know that.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
For you P one listeners and for those for those
of you that you know tune in and out of
radio all at time time, will you'll probably hear this
later on today. I just wanted you to hear it
from me first. That's why I was so adamant about
trying to find some video some audio of what was
said today. Is the other thing that he mentioned that

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I think is worth kind of focusing on is DITTRA,
the Defense Threat Reduction Agency. I had. I had interactions
with DITRA quite a bit because they do in all
their research that they do of how to reduce threats.
Obviously FEMA prior to DHS had a lot to do

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with that. I was fascinated to hear that they've been
working for fifteen years to develop the GBU fifty seven MOP,
the massive ordnance penetrator bomb, specifically for fifteen years, specifically
to target the Iranian subterr Ranian nuclear facilities, particularly for DOE.

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And he then went on to note how Dittrich's efforts
focused on ensuring that the MOPS the Bunkerbuster mombs could
penetrate and destroy deeply buried and hardened Todd targets, like
for those underground centrifuge halls. It's they're planning and all

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of their programming and modeling and then turning it over
to okay, here's what we think we need. Here's what
we need. Now, contractors go build this. That all ensured
that those initial strikes. Notice how he said that we
know the Iranians tried to cement over the ventilation shafts.

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If you imagine like almost like a pitchfork, except just
three prongs. You had the main ventilation shaft and then
two shafts coming out from the main shift out also,
and they knew that the Americans did. We knew it,
and they tried to cover all three holes with concrete.

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And apparently we knew the depth of that concrete, so
we could model and make sure that everything for the
mops for the bombs that they were designed to first
penetrate that and then do their penetration even further, and
they were able to do so because we knew exactly
how thick that concrete was. That is precision weapon performance.

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And that's all because of Ditra and he credited that
fifteen year effort in developing the bomb and their precise planning,
specifically for targeting for DOE, as pivotal to what he
described as and I wrote this down the operations tactical success,

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ensuring this strikes hit their intended marks with maximum impact. So,
just because I'm a nerd, one of the things I'll
do when I finish here is I'll go home and
I'll read more or listen to more about what they said.
He also said this. He reiterated that the initial battle

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damage assessments indicated extremely severe damage and destruction to all
three sites. Becautioned that a full assessment would take time
because of the subterranean nature of the targets. Well, that's
just logical. If you've blown up the guts of a mountain,
the satellite photos will tell you some but until you're

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able to get and I don't know that we'll do this,
we probably won't. But listening last night to one of
the experts that I quoted yesterday, I forget the which
organization it was, but he talked about how Massad has
infiltrated the the IRGC to such an extent that they

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really have moles inside the ig RC that IRGC that
we'll be able to tell them, Hey, here's what we hear,
here's what we're being told, or here's what we've seen,
depending on the level of the particular mole that they've
got inside the IRGC. So Massad is probably as we speak,

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collecting all of that human human intelligence to give us
more details, and that's how we're going to get these
battle damage assessments done. We'll actually let the Uranians do
it for us totally. Hey, this is really cloak.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
And dagger stuff.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
This is wonderful cloak and dagger stuff, and it shows
how good we are and to your point on the
talk back, how it sends a huge psychological shiver down
our enemy's spine.