Reel Animals Saturday Fishing Show 11-8-25

Reel Animals Saturday Fishing Show 11-8-25

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is that us? It might be we didn't get our
normal intro starting strong, open with a bag. That's us.
That's how we roll man. That's right. Good morning, boom.
Here we are, Good morning, Tampa Bay nine to seventy
WFLA talking fishing, Gonna be here until eight o'clock. Unfortunately

(00:24):
only till eight o'clock. There it is. There's some sense
of normalcy. I love that. Yeah, we're back, so we
Yet we have a touch of weather coming. It looks
like a little.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Bit, a little bit, and I mean right side. We
are getting a very strong cold front rolling through after
the weekend. But at least it waited till after the weekend.
And also it looks like we've got a nice little
window behind it too.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I wonder. I think what we should do is we
need to check with our good friends at Old Salts.
Did they, like somewhere send a memo that the tournament
was actually Monday? Yeah, because this Monday's weather's more King
of the beach weathers.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I mean, I would have thought that they were out
there doing like a rain dance or something like that,
but I don't think Tommy's been doing some dancing lately.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
But it seems like maybe they just you know, wherever
they send in the initial dates. Yeah, that causes the
weather to go to you know, always be bad on
a handbasket. You would think that they must have said,
you know what, this year, let's tell them that the
tournament's on Monday. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
It is an absolutely gorgeous day for King of the Beach.
It is going to be spectacular out there backside of
a full noon. The water clarity got really nice with
that east wind. Man, it is just beautiful. Bait is
everywhere a lot of people. Yesterday the old Salts King
of the Beach Parade was on and popping in John's Pass,

(01:47):
just million dollar boat after million dollar boaters.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
It was beautiful to watch. I bet it was.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
It was a tough day. My neck hurts kind of,
but it was. It was really cool to see. Man,
those front runners. I think that's one of my new favorites.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
I'll tell you what. Jim, Jim Nassai the pro marine
he did. He knows a thing or two about boats
when it comes to the especially when it comes to
those boats that are right for the Kingfish scene. Him
and his team are the best in the business.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
There was this gray hauled one that came to Donstock.
It was like a forty footer with quads on the
back with a big, big powerpole move on the front.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
It's like that, that's the dream. Yeah, that's sick. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I was slabbering a little bit. But then I saw
their fuel bill. Yeah that's tough. I had that problem
with the thirty two contender. First time I took it out,
I was like, yeah, yeah it is. It has been
cool to see though, I mean, no problem for a
lot of the teams that I chatted with catching bait.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
So should be a really good day. Should be interesting.
There's been a lot of kingfish around too. That kingfish
bike's been good. It's weird because the reports I've been
getting on the kingfish side have been sporadic, well, very
similar to what our inshore redfish bites. Bet they're moving
around a lot like they're like they were here today,

(03:04):
they're gone tomorrow, and the next day they're back.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Red fish is a little weird. But kingfish, I mean,
that's pretty that's pretty situation normal right with these big pelagics,
especially coastal migratory polgics, they got a tail, but.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
The only the only weird part to me is that
the bait. If the bait stays like you're on a
piece fishing, a big piece of hard bottom you're catching,
you know, pile of kingfish. The bait didn't leave, I
don't know what pushes them fish off? Yeah, you know
what I mean. And again that's the beauty of fishing
is we never know. It's always something different. You're always
trying to figure it out. That's the magic. That's why

(03:38):
we love doing this. But to me, it's just a
head scratcher. You know, even the red fish. I mean,
what at least inshore you have a huge tide swing.
So if the red fish were on a flat, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well we've been some big tide swings.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
I'll tell you what. You're gonna have some serious tide
swings with this wind coming. Yeah, that's gonna move some
water around, especially if it's out of the northwest. Mm
hmm it looks like it's gonna be. Yeah, that's what
they're calling for. Mm hm thirty what'd you say? Thirdy?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
So Monday morning is a big gold from big old
Coal front. It is coming through right around early Monday morning,
sometime after midnight Monday morning, around four am. It looks
like and it is gonna start puffing right around twenty
eight to thirty mile an hour, and it is gonna
be getting cold. That barometer is gonna be dropping, that

(04:27):
air temperature is gonna be dropping, and the water temp
shouldn't be too far behind it. I mean wind finder
right now for the Egmont Boois showing fifties on the
waters Tuesday morning, and it's gonna get cold fast, and
that's gonna be a big front. And a lot of
times this time of year, behind the fronts we have
like a twenty four to forty eight hour period where

(04:48):
it kind of calms down and then a high pressure
settles in and then it starts blowing again. This front
doesn't have that right now. In the forecast. It looks
like it's gonna be really nautical Monday into Tuesday, but
then calming down Tuesday afternoon through Tuesday night, and then
Wednesday is not looking too bad. So hopefully things will
calm down and that wind will lay down, the sea

(05:09):
will lay down, and waters will calm and get a
little bit more clear, and hopefully the bite should recover
quickly for the end of the work week and coming
into next weekend. Looks pretty good too, So really, overall,
the forecast isn't terrible. It's just that forty eight hour
period Monday morning through Tuesday night basically just.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
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Speaker 2 (06:12):
Exciting times plus, we've got fishing for hope. If you're
going to King of the Beach tonight, the King of
the Beach event is gonna be awesome.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
They have so much going on live. Where is it
at this year?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Rock Park?

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Okay, it's that Rock Park yep.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
So King of the Beach weigh in is gonna be
a big, huge waterfront party. It's always a ton of funds.
So hopefully you'll have a chance to join them and
enjoy that party. But take some dry food with you.
Takes you can good some dry food with you, and
if you do, there's drink tickets. Oh yeah, So bring
a big bag of food with you to the King

(06:45):
of the Beach Old Salts event and you're gonna get
a drink ticket for donating that food.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Plus if you miss King of.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
The Beach, you can't make it to King of the
Beach the event today at Rock Park. You can always
join us over there at the Bay Pines Pro Marine location.
So there's a boat right there, a beautiful sea hunt
on the infield at King of the Beach, and we're
going to try to sink the boat with food donations.
And at King of the Beach that event, they're collecting

(07:13):
donations there. Then tomorrow, I think, yeah, sometime either tomorrow
or Monday. Definitely by Monday, that boat's going to make
its way back to the Bay Pines Pro Marine location.
It's going to be set up out front with a
banner and they're going to be collecting donations at Pro
Marine Monday up until November twenty first, the day before
our event. Then they're going to take that boat and

(07:35):
trailer it over to north Rome Avenue. There the Metropolitan
Ministries Holiday Tent and it will be sitting out in
front of Donor Lane where Mike and I will be
helping unload vehicles and trying to sink the boat again.
So you've got three different locations to join us for
Fishing for Hope food drive. It's all benefiting Metropolitan Ministries

(07:55):
and families in need in our area for Thanksgiving, so
hopefully can join us and.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
The holidays season. You know, some of the dry food
could make it through to Christmas. Hopefully they do a
great job, Metropolitan Ministries. And this is a funky year,
especially with the government shut down, everything that's going on
in the world right now. Metropolitan Ministries is definitely in
need of extra food this year to feed those less fortunate.
So let's make sure we pulled together and make this

(08:21):
a banner year. Cap'n. Bill Miller started this thing with
cap'n mel Berman and you know, a bunch of other people.
I don't know, many many many moons ago. Capt'n Billy
Nobles and I were there at the very first one
and it was inspirational and incredible, and it's just gotten
bigger and better. Now they have the holiday tent. I mean,

(08:42):
we used to go over there to Florida Avenue and
it was kind of tight, you know. Now it's just
the venue super easy. It's super easy to find, it's
super easy access. You pull in, you don't even have
to get out of your car. We have a ton
of people there to unload. There'll be all kinds of
people from the fishing community there. If you want to
come out shake and say hello, you know, please do
So that's what morning was that? What was the date?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I don't have this Saturday, November twenty, Saturday.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Before Thanksgiving is when it always is. That Saturday morning.
We'll actually be in studio here. I imagine I haven't
talked to Bill, but imagine Bill will join us. Yeah,
Bill will be here, So we'll have the legend. Captain
Bill Miller from Hooked on Fishing will join us. We'll
talk to him in the morning and then we'll leave here,
go straight to Metropolitan Ministries and we'll be there till
noon one o'clock unloading vehicles, just saying hello. So it's

(09:32):
an absolutely spectacular day and just a feel good moment.
If you've never been involved in it, it's a good time.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
So yeah, So if you're bringing dry food, you can
go to Old Salts King of the Beach event or
go to the Bay Pines Pro Marine. Big shout out
to Pro Marine and Old Salts for joining us and
helping us make it even bigger.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Great team this year and past year.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
As they've been a part of it again, so it's
really cool to see them continuing that legacy of involvement
with Fishing for Hope and really appreciate their help. But
you can bring frozen turkeys and frozen food to the
event Saturday, November twenty second, but don't bring frozen food
to the King of.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
The Beach, yeah, or just can goods and dry goods yeah.
Stuff that should make sense to everyone. Hopefully well needs
to be sad, no doubt, no doubt, but it'll be
a good time. Always is fun. We're looking forward to
that lots again, lots of stuff happening on the water here.
Kingfish bite is good. The red fish bite still is
really really good. There's some big schools of oversized fish around.

(10:30):
I heard the tripletail bite is really good. I heard
there's some big tripletail. We've had a really good tripletail
bite since like August, but there hasn't been a pile
of big fish. I heard this past week. The big
fish is truly yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Maybe, and we're seeing a lot of hog fish near shore.
Offshore bite has been stellar. When the weather allows us
to get out there, it's a good time. We got
a lot to talk about this morning, for sure.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
No doubt. Phone lines are open here. Questions, comments, fish
and reports, you can bring them right here. One eight
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Tim Timmy d over here at Fisherman's Hut. Timmy, how
are you buddy?

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Good morning, Captain. I'm doing great. How are you guys doing?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
We're good, buddy. What you got for us this morning?
You always bring in the hammer?

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Well, I got two stars to talk about today, one
being Kingfish because the tournament. But I happened to work
a past day yesterday, and a little ten year old
girl I happened to look up. No one was really
watching her. Pole just bent right over. I thought she
had a group ron.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
I told her to.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Reel it up, and she looked, gave me one look
and started cranking as hard as she could. When I've
seen this fish come up, I thought it was a
gag group er just because of the size of the
head and the color. Ended up being like a twenty
plus inch door mat flounder.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Nice, that's over and it slipped off. I was trying
real hard, but she was a wildlife warrior. She had
spent a little bit of time crying a little bit
because we were keeping some of the fish instead of
throwing them all back. So it worked out great. But
I wanted to ask if you had to go to
for a flounder rigs, or if there's any kind of
the year that you're targeting specifically obviously when they're open.

(13:00):
But I had a lot of questions yesterday from those
young anglers, and I actually didn't know too much because
I don't target them as much. So I want to
get your opinion on flounder fishing hard bottom.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I find my flounder fishing a little better near some
of the passes where that bottom is firm. A lot
of the inner coastal around pass the grill and all
that the docks. The key to flounder fishing for me
is you have to be in touch with the bottom
most of the time. Every now and then they'll be
super aggressive and come off the bottom and eat, you know,
a bait under a cork. It's not very often if

(13:35):
you really want to target on My like artificial baits.
I like paddle tails, and I like baits that are
touching the bottom. New Penny. For some reason, New Pennies
a great color and I don't know if it's the
shrimp fascination, I don't know what it is, but New
Pennies a great color, New Penny with a red head,
and make sure you're working it slow so that you're
close to the bottom, and that's that strike song for

(13:56):
the flounder.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
DA shrimp was always my thingways.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
A great bait, you just have to really The du
a shrimp is one of the greatest artificial baits probably
ever invented. The issue I have with du a shrimp
and the reason is just you can't pull that off right.
My add it's really you have to really work that
trimp slow and if you're good, if you're truly I
think at Captain Lisa Fitzgerald every time I go into

(14:20):
this mode because she's so methodical and so slow and
so deliberate with the way she fishes a bait that
it makes it if she does great with those type
of lures. But you really got to be, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Taking your If you think you're going slow enough, you gotta.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
You're almost crawling that shrimp across about Yeah, good question.
What else you got, Timmy?

Speaker 4 (14:43):
So as far as kingfish, I know, trolling is a
preferred tactic for most people, either trolling a spoon cedar
plug or a slow trolling a live bait. Do you
have a preferred method whenever you're trolling? Are you going
to do a little bit higher speed like ten knots
or you're going slow trolling. If you're really targeting the kingfish,

(15:03):
do you have preferred method?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
I just keep it at line tight. I'm like a
bump and go. There isn't a lot of speed involved.
Make sure you're trolling with the tide number one. And
I always tell people if you want to catch a
smoker king your whole goal is a big kingfish, then
you need to be trolling. Again, today's a perfect example.
There's not gonna be a lot of people just anchored
up on the hard bottom, trying to catch a big

(15:26):
smoker king to win this thing. The great teams, like
the pro marine guys that do it all over the
country and do it at a high level, they're trolling
all the time. When I take customers and I want
to catch a lot of fish, then I'll anchor up
on the hard bottom. We'll get a chump slick going.
You'll catch mackerel, you'll catch benita, you'll catch sharks, you'll
catch kingfish, all in the same spot. You don't normally

(15:49):
catch a big one. I've caught some thirties doing that,
some twenties doing that. But if you're really trying to
win a big tournament or you want to hang a
smoker king, then you're doing this gimming.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
And a lot of people call it slow trolling. It's
not slow trolling a true like tournament winning kingfish out.
Like Mike mentioned a lot of times, it's that what
they call slow trolling, but it's really like bump trolling.
You're just going fast enough to keep the line tight
and keep the baits from tangling, so you're literally almost
out of gear more than your in gear. You're just

(16:22):
keeping enough headway to keep those lines tight. And those
baits not tangling up, and you want to stagger the
baits only maybe put two maybe three out. If you've
got a wide transom and you're just keeping that line tight,
that's the goal.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Some people will drift. Bump troll is a great that's
a great verbiage. That's the best way to describe it.
It's great for your lower units. Yeah, yeah, that's why
Pro Marine doesn't no doubt. Timmy good stuff. Tell everybody
how they can find you over there, Fisherman's Hut.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Fishermen's Hut. We're located off fourteenth Avenue down there on Brandton,
just right over the bridge. Give it a good I'm
there nine time. If I'm not working up with you guys,
and if now we have a couple of pro staffers
we just hired as well, so come on in, come
get your slow pitched chicks and anything else.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Thanks you guys, appreciate you good stuff. I love that.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
The one thing about flounder too that we didn't mention
is the near short flounder fishing the from the beach
to twelve fourteen miles. Man, that is good stuff, and
that's you don't need numbers. You go to the public wrecks,
and you don't fish on the wreck, you fish off

(17:36):
the wreck on that sand. Oh man, drop some of
them mudminnow's. There's some big shrimp, super light weight. Keep
them right on the bottom door mats.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Did Timmy just say give us a goog? He said,
I was wondering if you're going to catch that, give
us a goog? Is no address? Just get a Google?
I love it. It's fantastic, and yes, I did catch it.
Simmy does a great job. I was wondering if you
knew what that meant. I do. I get it. I
get it. I've hooked up with capa Dylan Hubbard. I'm

(18:09):
learning stuff all the time, buddy. It's all good. Influx
of youth is helping. We got our friend Donald and
Loots up next. Hopefully we'll hear from you as well.
Phone lines are open one eight hundred and nine and
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(18:29):
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Speaker 2 (19:16):
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that's what I want. The Captain spotter is hard to beat.
You got the shrimp, you got the scallops, you got
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Speaker 1 (19:29):
Or stop talking. It's really nice morning. I'm hungry. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
They have black and broiled fried Cajun fry. You can
do it all different ways. The best part is going
fishing and then coming back and getting that fish cooked up,
and you got a nice, big old platter of fish.
Then you can do some bacon wrap scallops, some fish bread,
maybe some dynamite shrimp with it.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I mean, you can't go wrong. I had bacon wrap
scallops last night at South Seas.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
They were delicious, and you could wrap anything in bacon
pretty much.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, but a scallop inside though, is really good. I
mean that's you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, Yeah, a little spicy tie chili sauce with it. Yeah,
and you lost us King of the Beach. Someone asked
in the stream what time the weigh in is. It's
four to ten PM, and they stream live to YouTube
as well, so if you can't make it to the event,
you can tune in live on YouTube and watch the
lay in. So four to ten is the event tonight,

(20:24):
and there's fireworks after for Veterans Day, which is coming
up November eleventh, this Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Tuesday Veterans Day. Big shout out to all our veterans
we by. Now, if you've been a follower of the show,
you know what the Veterans Meet a bunch to us.
You know our men and women's service members, both here
and abroad, that make it possible for us to live
this incredible life, as grumpy and crazy as it seems,
sometimes great way better than most of the rest of
the planet gets to live. And it's because of our

(20:52):
men and women's service members, So big shout out to them.
Hopefully they have a great, great Veterans day. Let's go
to the phones here. Actually we got we got a
call coming up the top of the hour, and I
missed most of this because I wasn't here last week.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
So this is Travis brought it or not Travis, I
should say Richard from the South Shore, the man, the myth,
the legend himself brought it up and Travis was talking
about it, the whole rock mind deal down in South Florida,
and a lot of people have talked about it and
claimed it's a rock mined. Some people are saying it's
water storage. We heard from our friends Captains for Clean

(21:29):
Water and they talked about from their side. Today we
have an opportunity to talk to Matt Idsen from Phillips
and Jordan now just Phillips, and they are the company
behind this new facility, this new storage facility of water
what some people are alleging as a rock mine, and
it'll be interesting to hear that side of the story

(21:50):
as well. So he's going to be coming on just
after seven o'clock and filling us in from their perspective.
Kind of private business approached you, adding to reservoirs and
water storage in South Florida, and apparently they've done like
seven or eight of these things. This is not new,
this is not something that they just came up with.

(22:11):
And what's really cool is the speed at which they
can create these water storage facilities. So learn more from him,
coming up soon.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Investigative reporting right here at the markedow Ford Real Animals
Radio show. You can trust us. That's right. Wow, let's go.
Let's go to Donald and Lutes. Donald, how are you
this morning?

Speaker 6 (22:32):
Hey, good morning, catin to say I'm happy betteran day
coming up? And Michael, thank you for your service. I
know you were out there, but yeah, Tim Duncan calling
about flounder. So pink paddle tails.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Also, I've heard that before, pink. I've heard a good
color for flounder. That's interesting.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
Love that soldier's hole there Fort DeSoto area. Miguel bay
All wholesome, nice flounder. So when that season opens up,
I'll be hitting some of those spots in the kayak.
That's me a lot of fun. But I've got my
Dossu outing today, Donald and whoever shows up. We're going
to be at the Davis de Park and there. I'm

(23:15):
almost there. It's gonna stop and get some coffee because
I need something. Yeah, I'm doing something a little different today.
I'm doing the low Country boil. So I've got the
poundage of crab legs, poundage of shrimp I don't know
how many, and duey sausages, but a ton of those,

(23:37):
and corn and red potatoes.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
So listen, I've just told Dylan to stop talking about food,
and then you come right in and started talking about
that sounds awesome. What is with you, guys?

Speaker 7 (23:51):
Oh we're hungry, we're men.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
We got to eat you.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I'm with you. I get it. It's gonna be a
good time, beautiful, beautiful day, great time. So much for
my morning fast.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
The tides are going to be terrible, but it's okay.
It's still gonna be a you know, get out there
and it's gonna be a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
You know. The best, the absolute best time to go fishing.
You know what it is, Donald, anytime when you can,
when you can, buddy, that's right, get out there and
catch fish. You never know. Absolutely we'll have a good
day out there, buddy. Look forward to getting a report
tomorrow morning.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
Yes, sir, and you guys stake cares, stay safe and
tight lines and everybody have a great day today. It's
gonna be awesome.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Thanks parding you to be safe out there. Should be
a beautiful day on the water yesterday that when I
was headed to southeast I had to go to South
Seas for an event last night down at Captiva, and
uh what a it was gorgeous on that causeway making
the run to South Seas and on both sides, I
mean there was the golf was glassed out, the harbors

(24:52):
were glassed out. I mean it was a beautiful, beautiful
night last night. Big sun you know, big sunset. It
was spectacular.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
It has been beautiful out there, yeah coolis has been
just as beautiful.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah. Crazy. But do we have another caller? We do not?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
All right, So the conversation on the YouTube livestream asked
about the South Fishing Pier of the Skyway and unfortunately
they did close from the bait shop to the end
of the South Pier, and I had an opportunity to
talk with the folks at f DOOT and FDOT is
actually in control of that bridge fishing pier, which is

(25:31):
kind of strange because the pier would be considered more
of a park. It should really be under parks or
dep or something, but because it was once a navigable bridge,
it is still under the management f DOT, and f
DOT has not been getting the revenue, so people are like,
what are they doing with all the revenue you pay

(25:51):
to get on the fishing piers, So where's that revenue going.
It's going to the park's general fund, and the parks
aren't responsible for maintaining the bridge, so it's kind of
this weird thing where that money is going into a
different department. But ef DOT has spent a lot of money.
Just two years ago, they spent five million dollars from
the general fund to try to lengthen the life that

(26:13):
South Fishing Pier, and it was supposed to this five
million dollars was supposed to net them about ten years
more life than that South Fishing Pier.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
It didn't.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Just two years later, it is to the point where
it is literally crumbling. What I was told by the
engineer is you can literally if you get up onder
your boat and get up underneath the end of that
south pier, you can reach up and grab the concrete
with your hand and it will crumble in your hand
at certain portions of the bridge. And apparently the way
it was built is it's all tied together in sections,

(26:44):
so if one section falls, the whole entire thing falls
like Domino's. And apparently it's to the point now where
if an ambulance was to drive out there to or
a fire truck was to drive out there, if someone
was hurt, it would just totally collapse past that souder.
There was a big structural beam underneath the bait shop
that collapsed and fell into the water, and that is

(27:07):
what's causing the closure of that end of the South pier.
Has nothing to do with anything else or anyone else
or any advocacy group. It's one hundred percent due to
structural concerns. One analogy that was used in the meeting
that really kind of opened my eyes as we were
talking about the North Pier and what's up with that.
The analogy he used was really interesting. The North Pier

(27:28):
is like a middle aged person been eaten pretty good,
pretty healthy, got a long life ahead of it. The
South Pier is like someone in a nursing home who
just lost both legs and arms and is on life
support and ventilator, like it's time to be taken out
to pasture. Apparently, the engineers were pushing to close the

(27:52):
entire South Pier, and the head of our region at
Florida Department of Transportation f DOT, grew up fishing the
pier and grew up fishing the peer with his dad
mackerel out there, big fishing advocate, you know, And so
he didn't want to see it closed, and he fought

(28:12):
to just close up until what they thought could be safe.
And that's what they're doing now, and they're hoping that
they'll be able to keep it open for a little
while longer. But the South Pier is definitely, unfortunately on
its last leg. So I started asking around, like, hey,
what are we going to do, like how can we
fix this? And his thoughts were and again f DOT
shouldn't be in control of it, and moving forward, anything

(28:35):
that needs to be done probably needs to be done
in a different department. But his words were just from
his experience with bridges, it would cost way more money
to try to fix what's there than to just knock
it down, let it become a reef, and then build
something new adjacent to it. And apparently it's only like

(28:55):
thirty million dollars, not that bad in the grand scheme
of things when we're talking about bridges, like Howard Franklin
three hundred million dollars, right, So thirty million dollars in
five years, it's apparently what the five years? Yeah, because
I mean it takes a long time to do anything right,
that's government. I mean it takes a long time. I

(29:16):
mean it'll take a year just to get appropriations in place,
to have the money allocated. Then you've got to do
the studies, the DPS.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
It takes a long time.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
You know how long it took. You know what Blind's
pass They lengthen that little l jetty. You know how
long that took them. I'm afraid to ask twenty five years.
Twenty five years to add about twenty feet of rock
to that jetty.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, you have to have time. The only way the
lobbyists can get involved in line the politicians pockets is
if you have enough time, you don't want to do
it in a short window. Then the politicians can't gather
enough wealth. That's horrible, dude, it's crazy. Yeah, we got
a good friend, Captain Van Hubbard here on the other side.
Phone lines are open one eight hundred and nine to
six nine nine three five to light them up. Let's

(30:02):
talk fishing. We'll be back. Welcome back, six fifty one.
Here at the iHeartMedia Empire. We got calls stacking up. Remember, guys,
we've got a call in here right at the top
of the hour from our gentleman with Phillips.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Phillips and Jordan. Now just Phillips. I want to that's
gonna be my first question. Yeah, what happened to Jordan?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Where Jordan? I don't want to know. Yeah, maybe I
was going to say he's at the bottom of one
of them. Were buried, the rebranded that's what they say. Yeah,
you don't ask more questions. Disgruntled partner disappears. Keep that
in mind, going where I went. I'm not worried about you. Yeah,
you should be. Always worried about the old guy, bro,

(30:44):
always worry about the old guy. Let's go to the phones.
Let's check in cam Van. Howbard Van? How are you buddy?

Speaker 5 (30:51):
What are you talking about? Being the old guy for?

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Well? Right?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
You know, did you hear the death right he made?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, I'm the old guy.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Let's to that conversation. I'm sorry, looking forward to that
conversation and learning about the other side and seeing what's
what they're I'm really excited about that. And uh, I
took a week off and uh, Dylan's got another picture
to tease you with, Mike.

Speaker 8 (31:16):
Oh yeah, but he got a.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Nice tent point last night, real nice one. We're up
in the north Woods for a week and uh talking
about snow tonight.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
That'll be interesting, big old beautiful bus. Yeah, nice dear.
Where's that? Where are you at?

Speaker 7 (31:34):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Three miles from Wisconsin in North Illinois, Okay County where
they got food for them?

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah they do. They're growing big up there. There's no doubt.
I got up. I got a really good high school
buddy that owns a farm just outside of Madison, which
isn't that far from the border there, and he shoots
big Bucks every year. Yeah, shoots big Bucks every year.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
Beautiful country, Yeah, no doubt, beautiful country. Go back to
fish and I see my buddy, Bill Harmer and Glenn
found the wrong kings yesterday. All they could find was
silver kings, not King Maxerel. I wish everybody good luck
in the tournament today.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
No doubt, no doubt. Well, Billy Harmer, good one. Billy
Harmer and Glenn Taylor should not be allowed to fish together. Yeah,
that should be illegal, bro, that's way, just way too
much knowledge on one boat.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Our boat is trying to come in right now from
the twelve hour night's Mangrove snapper trip is trying to
make its way in right now. And the friendly fishermen
they were just texting me how hard it is to
navigate into John's Pass right now because there's just kingfish
boats flying everywhere.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Go figure, Well, Ray Markham said four to five hundred.
I don't know do we have a total this.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I don't have a total off the top of my head.
I can text Amy, but I would imagine she's still sleeping.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, and she's poor, she's swamped already with it. I
mean that they don't probably get a whole lot of
sleep right now now this weekend. These big events are aggressive.
So well, good stuff, Van Hubbard. We appreciate you out
good stuff man, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Glad they got good weather and looking forward to him
posting the results this evening. Good luck to everybody.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
We'll talk about it again tomorrow. I'm sure appreciate your brother.
Great call, as always the legend, Captain Van Hubbard. Let's
try to drop another one in here, we got another minute.
Let's check in. Let's see who came in first. Let's
go to Captain Mike Perry here real quick, Michael, how
are you.

Speaker 9 (33:24):
Hey? Guys? Happy king of the beach weekend to everybody
back in the Tampa Bay area. If it were me,
I'd be looking to catch me just a barely couple
legal mackerel. Have my rods ready, Spanish mackerel, get them
on the line.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Is that a key? Is that a keys thing? When
you just call up and drop illegal stuff on us
entertainment purposes? You and mahoney, You and Mahoney are fishing
the tournament.

Speaker 9 (33:55):
Apparently I've been listening to the Sunday Show. Wait some conscience, now,
I would be big blue runners, big baits and just
put that powerpole move down. Like I've said before, that
powerpole move can do exactly what bump throwing does for

(34:16):
a thirty five contender that I have that would be
perfect and just keep going and tell my gang on
the boat, we're looking for one fish, one big one,
and that's what I would do. But the fishing and
the Keys has been pretty darn good now though we've
had some good weather, although we've had to contend with

(34:37):
a whole We had Fantasy Fest. Now we have the
World Offshore Boat Races, which is great because I had
a lot of clients every year that come drivers, throttlemen,
crew people. We've been taking out going fishing, and let
me tell you something, you don't allow those guys near
your controls of your contender because you find a whole

(35:01):
different side of speed out of your boat with those
guys running and there. I took a crew out and
they're like, hey, Mike, let me.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Have at it.

Speaker 9 (35:09):
And I'm like, oh boy, here we go. And I said,
I normally don't do this, but I will for you guys.
I found a whole new level of speed the other
day that I didn't realize that boat had. But now
it's been a great been a great time in the Keys.
The fishing is good, the sail fishing is really coming along.
We do get some kings. We are getting a few

(35:31):
things down here. Wahoo are really starting to show up,
and the black fin tuna and the kobia behind all
the shrimp boats. Right now, if you can find a
shrimp boat, you can catch fish. I can't guarantee what
brand of fish. You're going to get a shark or two,
but there's going to be kobea blackfinn, banita, there's going

(35:53):
to be some schooly kings behind it. Anything that eats
a chumslick when they're cleaning those decks off, you're going
to catch fish. So that's my report from the Florida Keys.
And have a great weekend. And h I think after
the big boats leave here, I think we're clear till

(36:13):
the end of the year.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Till the holidays.

Speaker 9 (36:15):
So we've had our fun in the Florida Keys for
the last three to four weeks.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Good stuff, brother, good stuff. Great well done, Michael, good job, buddy.

Speaker 9 (36:25):
All see you soon, God bless be good buddy.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Good stuff right there. I don't have time to get
to another one here. Unfortunately, we got Gene Hammond and
Richard on the south shore.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
That well, Richard, we got your caller coming up, buddy.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, we got uh, and I want to actually hear
from Richard after we hear the call, yeah, to see
if all his questions get answered.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
We'll see. Yeah, that's my goal in Life's make sure
Richard the.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Bear well, you should, sugar bear. That's what sugar bears do.
Captain the sugar bear. You're taking care of our boy Richard. Week.
We almost we almost made it with Oh no, that's
never gonna happen. You can't listen. Do you know how
disappointed Richard on the South Shore would be. He already
only likes me like part of the time. Sometimes he

(37:09):
likes me, sometimes he doesn't. So we got to throw
the sugar bear stuff out there. Just keep me a
good grade, even happy exactly. That's what we're here to do.
Makes happy. We've got the gentleman from Phillips formerly phillips
En Jordan, the boys digging the big hole here down south.
We're going to talk to them, try to get the
other side of this whole water deal figured out and

(37:32):
give you guys a look into this other side of
it anyway, see what we think about it. So keep
it tuned right here the Barto Ford Real Animals Radio Show.
We'll be back nine seventy WFLA Welcome back seven oh
seven here at the iHeartMedia Empire, the Barto Ford Real
Animals Radio Show, Captain Mike Anderson, Captain Dylan Hubbard talking

(37:54):
fishing here. Going to be here until eight o'clock. I
know we've got a couple of you on hold. Hopefully
you guys can stay here through this. As we've been
kind of promoting this call here, I'm kind of excited
to get a chance to talk with this gentleman. He
is Matt Eidson, Eatson Idsen, Iidsen, Matt Iidsen, and he

(38:16):
is with Phillips formerly Phillips and Jordan. You know, these
guys have been kind of in the news here as
the company handling this additional reservoir project. I guess was
the way to kind of open it up. Good morning, Matt,
how are you? Thanks for joining us?

Speaker 8 (38:33):
Hey, Hey, good morning guys. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, we appreciate the opportunity here to to kind of
look at this from another side and get another angle.
We had one of our regular callers kind of bring
it up, and then obviously the great work that Dylan
does behind the scenes kind of getting this setup so
we could kind of yeah and talk to.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
A big shout out to Captain Travis Thompson for linking
us up and had a great conversation yesterday and just
wanted to talk a little bit more about that. Uh,
get some particulars, some details, some technical specs on what
you guys are doing down there.

Speaker 8 (39:08):
Yeah, yeah, hey, See, the south Land Water Resource Project
was born of many many years of Phillips and Jordan
now Phillips working in the EAA in that region. For
those of you that don't know, we were the contractor
that built the ten A Intake Reservoir for the upcoming
EA Reservoir. We also built the A two S t

(39:28):
A which is adjacent to the reservoir. So we've been
working in this region for for quite some years and
know the geology, know the lay of the land, know
the struggles that the district is having with another STA
that they have there, and that's how we developed the project.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
And and an ST making and then STA for those listening,
is a storm water treatment area right correct?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Correct?

Speaker 8 (39:49):
We take water out of the out of the Miami
Canal that comes south out of Lake Okachobee, uh, and
then we'll flow it through that ST A remove a
lot of nitrogen and phosphorus out of that water before
it actually goes south on into Florida Bay, which is
you know, the ultimate goal is getting water down south.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
So the goal of these stas is to take the
water coming out of Okachovie's, store it, clean it, filter it,
and then move it to Florida Bay.

Speaker 8 (40:11):
Correct, That's that's the goal. So we have less discharges
east and west, you know, out of the clus to
hatching Saint Lucy. He knows we all all battle in
fight with red tide and try tobate that the best
we can. So we were just you know that the
Southland Reservoir was in addition to the EAA Reservoir, which
is a much needed project. You know, thankful for the
state taking control of that and getting this thing moving along.

(40:31):
But you know, you know, initial study was for three
hundred and sixty thousand acre feet of storage in that region.
The EA Reservoir is only two hundred and forty thousand
of that three hundred and sixty So the Southland Water
Resource Project was developed as the additional one hundred and
twenty thousand under SB ten years ago to finish the project.
This finishes at the job.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
So this hole that's being dug the Southland Water did
what did you call it, Southland water.

Speaker 8 (40:57):
What it's called the Southland Water Resource Project.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Southland Water Resource Project is actually helping to accomplish the
goal of the EAA reservoir because it's not going to
be big enough to hold the three hundred and twenty
thousand gallons that was originally slotted or budgeted.

Speaker 8 (41:14):
Huh correct, correct? Ten plus years ago there was a
study done that said, you know, to make a viable
impact down south and get water moving south, they needed
three hundred and sixty thousand acre feet. The AA reservoir
in itself, is purely based on size, is only two
hundred and forty thousands. This one hundred and twenty thousand
acre feet just finishes that three hundred and sixty thousand
that was originally called for.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Huh, How deep is this going? A lot of conversation is, Oh,
it's going to go so deep and it's going to
be so impactful.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
How deep there?

Speaker 8 (41:43):
No, we were actually permitted to a minus seven to eight,
which is if you're standing on flat ground about fifteen
feet deep. We did not get a variance to go
any deeper. The floor actually, you know, actually the floor
of the bottom of the Southland Reservoir Southland Water Resource
Project is nearly the exact same elevation as what will
be the bottom of the EA Reservoir.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
So they're the same depth as well, yep, same same depth.

Speaker 8 (42:08):
And then the difference between the two is they are
high hazards and we are low hazard. They store a
lot of water above ground.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
So essentially the EAA reservoir is the same depth as
this Southland project, and then the EAA reservoir. The difference
with that one is it's going to be deeper because
instead of taking the rock out of the hole and
selling it for profit, they're going to take the rock
out of the hole and build an embunkment embankment around

(42:34):
the hole and be able to store water higher above ground.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Essentially, is what you're saying.

Speaker 8 (42:40):
Correct, Correct, We will store a little bit of water
about four feet above ground. They'll store about twenty eight
to twenty nine feet above ground, which if you're standing
on flat ground, the embankment's about forty four feet tall,
so it's about twenty five million yards of rock that
has to be blasted and processed to build that embankment.
Forty four feet tall.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
So the EAA reservoir, our embankment is going to be
built by blasting rock, and the south Land project is
also going to be built by blasting rock.

Speaker 8 (43:08):
Correct, anything you do in that region, that's some of
the hardest rock in the state of Florida. Anything you
do there, just as we did with the ten A
intake canal that actually feeds that reservoir, we blasted and
processed that rock to build that intake canal. We did
the exact same thing for the A two STA. So
anything you do in this region, you know that there's
only about six inches to a foot of dirt on
top of it. You have to blast this material to

(43:30):
move it.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
So let me ask you a question, because this is
what I do, I don't it immediately irritates me. Tell me,
if you can as easy as you can, why the
why the pushback? Why? Why why is there so much
pushback on this project from what you guys are doing
based because based on what you're telling me, it immediately

(43:50):
sounds like I mean shenanigans, Like if what you're telling
us is true, then it's the exact same project trying
to do the exact same thing. Actually it's the original project,
which is total bs that it's not already done because
we know how many years ago this was approved by
the taxpayers of the state of Florida. So it's absolutely
asinine that we're still waiting on this project. And so

(44:11):
this you guys, as a private company, are going in
there just to enhance the current project, which is going
to flow more water south, which is going to make
things better for the Everglades, better for the whole South
end of Florida water quality wise. Why the pushback, you know.

Speaker 8 (44:29):
I think a lot of it just deals with the
history of who we are working with and who we are.
I mean, obviously in this region are our landowners. Are
two major companies in the region. I won't say their names,
but I think a lot of that's just who we
had the partner with.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
To do it. So wait, wait, this land then own,
it wouldn't be a problem.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
So this isn't public land you guys are building this on.
This is private land that you guys are building this on.

Speaker 8 (44:50):
No, this is private land, and this is something that
we have to pay for.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
So there's no public it's not public land, and you
aren't using public funds.

Speaker 8 (45:01):
Not right now, we're making a very large investment to
get this thing opened up. And it's like you and
I talked about yesterday, Dylan, the only public investment will
come in the future. We have to build a reservoir,
no matter what. They will be in an armored reservoir
holding water in place, with seefage cut off walls and
seefage canals all the way around. That the state will
have to pay for the infrastructure to make it function
ie whatever pump station they want, control structures they want,

(45:24):
so they want it tied into the system.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
That the only public funds that will be used in
the Southland project are funds to help it function, like
exactly like the EAA reservoir essentially correct.

Speaker 8 (45:35):
Correct, We're typically a much much better value on the
private side and getting this done because we do make
the initial investment, and we do fund a lot of
the upfront construction costs for the infrastructure to get the
project up and rolling. So we're not asking for the
state for anything right now.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
So the EA reservoir took I mean it was like
two thousand and one when it first started being talked
about and it's to twenty twenty five now, so it's
taken almost twenty five years to get that project going.
How long has it taken you guys to get this
project from planning to where you're at now?

Speaker 8 (46:07):
About two and a half years. The first first back
knacking on this was April twenty twenty three. We got
through a lot of the permitting process this past year.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
That's great.

Speaker 8 (46:17):
As we get through some of the hurdles we have
now will actually break ground next year. So the goal
was to deliver the state the first twenty thousand acre
feet of storage in under five years, and that's very
very doable with where we're at, and as soon as
we break down, we'll deliver twenty thousand acre feet in
five years. We don't have to wait for the reservoir
to be complete to make our function. We deliver ours

(46:38):
and cells, so as we turn over a sale, you
get gaining infrastructure every year.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
So the EAA reservoir has taken twenty five years and
it's still not completed. And then once it's completed, the
entire thing must be completed for it to function. This
project in five years can be storing water and functioning
to help solve the discharge problems and help alleviate that
discharge private business.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
That'sta.

Speaker 8 (47:05):
Yeah, there's an STA that right next to us that's
been struggling for some time. The initial the initial goal
with this project was to get it online as fast
as possible so they could make that stormwater treatment area
work twelve months out of the year. And the faster
we can get storage delivered, even if it's twenty thousand
acre feet of the one hundred and twenty thousand we're delivering,
that helps that STA every year that's impresate.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
The entire top of my head wants to blow off
right now.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
And they And to confirm what you said earlier is
you guys built the intake canal for the EAA reservoir.

Speaker 8 (47:38):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Correct.

Speaker 8 (47:39):
We just wrapped that one up I think about two
months ago. I think we closed the books on that
one in August or September, and it's function and ready
to go as soon as if the reservoir comes online.
You know, the governor just had the ribbon cutting for
the pump station down there. As soon as we get
get that pump station up in Noland, as soon as
the reservoir's done, they'll start using that canal. But we
finished that over the past year and a half two years.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
And what's confusing to me, I don't know a lot
about the intricacies of that very contentious issue down there,
but I mean, looking at the EAA reservoir and the
companies that are working there, isn't the word mining seems
to have this like negative connotation. But isn't the mining company,
the one that's working on the EAA reservoir.

Speaker 8 (48:21):
The company that's actually the general contractor for the reservoir
just recently hired one of the largest mining companies in
North America to come in an assist to get that
project done.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
That's crazy, you know.

Speaker 8 (48:33):
Mine, mine's using a negative connotation because it's a great
fundraising tool that strikes fear. It's what it does. So
it's what leads people to not believe that there's a
reservoir leading dower on path. So that's it takes blasting,
it takes excavation, it takes processing to do anything in
this region. It's just how you label it.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
It's a charismatic megafauna. That's exactly what it is, charismatic
megafaunam It's just instead of it being an animal, it's
an entity.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yeah, So the essentially the Southland Project digging a hole
and selling the rock out of it to fund the project,
gets it done faster, allows private business to act like
private business on private lands and be more nimble responsive,
and you're getting water storage in five years instead of
thirty five years.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (49:19):
And the good part of this is as it's turned
over and lease sells and the state pays for the
infrastructure to make it run and pay for that storage
a lotment that they get to use, and we turn
over the land to the state with that infrastructure, so
it doesn't stay in private ownership. As we turn over
these stills sales of water storage, it goes to the state.
It belongs to them. What it's done.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Wow, Mat, thank you so much for your time. Absolutely
eye opening, mind blowing. Well done. Great job at a
delivering what's going on down there. And you know, hopefully
you be open to us talking to you in the future.
We appreciate your time very very much.

Speaker 8 (49:56):
Yeah, thank you guys. Anything ever comes up again, you
have any questions, call me anytime.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
I appreciate it. Man, we'll do it. Brother, Well done,
Thanks Matt. I have a great day. Oh Matt Idson
right there with Phillips. Well wow, my head, my whole
head wants to blow right off the top of my body,
like I could literally just go ballistic for the next
thirty minutesh Wow, pretty interesting. It's interesting. Yeah, it's really interesting. Wow.
We've got Captain Geene Hammond Richard on the south shore

(50:23):
both up here on the other side. We're talking fishing.
We'll be back the bartell Ford Real Animals Radio Show.
Welcome back. Well, I don't know about you, but my
mind is blown crazy. Let's go to the phones here
real quick. We got to get our safe boating tip in.
We'll probably do that here after the bottom of the hour.
Let's get Richard on the south shore in here quick.

(50:45):
How are you, my friend?

Speaker 7 (50:47):
I'm doing well sitting outside a canal, light and the wind,
because when I go in now, I'll lose phone contact.
Appreciate chuck, Yeah, carl a nice, my sturdy ANSA read
in here last week on top What what can you?
Little one?

Speaker 1 (51:07):
It was worth a shot.

Speaker 8 (51:10):
It breaks out into.

Speaker 7 (51:11):
A small pond at the end. And when I hit
that little pond had a little strip of sunlight to there,
and I said, I bet there's a red fish sitting
in the sun and there was yeah, yeah, Todd Dog Jenny,
I'm gonna go in and try it again looking for
a snook. Uh, gentlemen, I want to first tell Dylan, Dylan,

(51:32):
I appreciate your intellect and work that you put into
this to investigate this. Don't uh take me wrong there.
I poked the sugar beery a little bit last week.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
I heard, thank you. I always appreciate you keeping me
on my toes.

Speaker 7 (51:51):
But uh, and again I've always prefaced my conversation about
this is this is what I've heard. I do not
know this because there is not, as far as I
can find information available, believe me, and I spent a
little bit of time looking. Again, I guess the main
question with me right now is, Okay, why are they

(52:13):
doing this. They're not doing this for punning games. Somebody's
doing this for a profit. The land belongs to Big Sugar.
My understanding is that it's been pretty much farmed out
for sugarcane and it's worn out for that, so they
had to find another use for it. This is what
I heard. But again, this engineering farm, who is taking

(52:33):
them to do this?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Somebody is They're they're spending their own money. It's two
hundred million dollars. They're putting up the money for it.
It's privately funded. But to your question, because they get
the rock out of it, Richard, But you're getting the
money for the rock. But real quick, he just said,
why are they doing this now? If the farm's been
farmed out. If you own property and you use it

(52:54):
as a farm and you can't no longer grow what
you want to grow to make a profit, and then
you have another use for it, why not allow that?
Are we saying that people shouldn't be allowed to do
what they want on their private land.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
I mean, I have a really big job.

Speaker 7 (53:08):
As long as it's not destructive, as long as it's
not destructive to the environment, you should be able to
do whatever you want with your own But.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
They're doing the same thing, and what they're doing is
the same thing that the EAA reservoirs depth. They're actually
faster and they're enhancing it, and they're doing it what
you're saying, and you're not paying for it. You're not
paying for it. Your tax dollars aren't paying for it.
There's no public funds. It's being done faster, quicker.

Speaker 7 (53:30):
And they said a couple of different things. They said
that the rock is going to be used to build
an embankment.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
And then no, no, the rock from the first one,
the reservoir, the one that we're paying.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
For, the one your tax dollars are paying for, rock
taking longer, spending more money on it and it's all
taxpayer funded. That rock is not being sold. It's being
used to create an embankment.

Speaker 7 (53:54):
Okay, uh, well yeah, the rocket they're taking now the
existing project.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Yeah, yes, the one, the Southland project. They're taking the
rock out of it, selling it. And that's how that's
why is they're selling it to fund the project. They
wouldn't be doing it unless they're making money. That's how
you run a business.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
Well that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Yeah, but they're making they're making the money off the rock.
That's how they're funding the project. Even if they make
a hundred million you put in, if they get three
hundred million dollars worth of rock out of this hole,
they made one hundred million dollars. It's pretty smart business
for sure. And then the part I like is they're
enhancing the original project isn't big enough to do. According
to him, it wasn't big enough to do what they needed.

(54:35):
The project to do anyway. So, in typical government fashion,
we're gonna put a band aid on this damn thing
and then spend another twenty five years trying to get
this reservoir approved by these clowns. I mean, for me,
this is a no brainer if it's all true. In
the world I live in, it's a lot of crazy stuff.
But if it's all true, it sure sounds a good deal.

Speaker 7 (54:56):
Well, that's what I'm saying. If it's all true, that's
about it today than I did yesterday, Yes, sir, And
I'm going to continue to pay attention to it. And
you know, it could could be that I got bad information.
I'm always uh uh amendable that possibility.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
And one one one interesting thing is you you just
brought up, uh the concern over it not going back
the way the permits are written. If sells one, two,
and three aren't a reservoir, no further cells can be built.
So the project halts if they're not turning it back over.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
So that's good. Hey, I got I'm up against some break, Richard,
great call, good luck catching a big snook this morning.
Let's talk more tomorrow and tomorrow show buddy, see you
all right, party, Good stuff right there. Hey, we're gonna
go up here get a break. Got Captain Gene Hammond,
We got Captain Jim Fogo with our visit Saint Pete
Clearwater Tip of the week coming up, our save Boating tip,
and then Captain Dave palmerlou As Well, we'll be back,

(55:50):
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of these here. Let's get Gene Hammond in quick. He
was been on hold the longest lines of Liberty, Happy
Veterans Day, my veteran brother. What's going on?

Speaker 10 (56:48):
But yeah, I am incredibly calm, relaxed and stress So
number one, I'm not fishing in the King of.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
The Beach.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
For twelve years or two.

Speaker 10 (57:00):
I'm not talking to EAA contractors. How's he doing, Dylan?

Speaker 7 (57:05):
Is he?

Speaker 8 (57:05):
Is he read?

Speaker 10 (57:06):
Is he breathing heavy? Check his pulse?

Speaker 1 (57:09):
I'm a little concerned about him. We're not doing a
blood pressure for sure.

Speaker 10 (57:14):
Hey, we got our first veterans trip with wheelchairs tomorrow morning.
You might see us on Day News nine and ABC
Action News. Thank you to everybody's support. I can't wait
to get this first trip out of it. It's going
to be a blast. And I want to tell you
about one of these veterans that helped us out, donating

(57:34):
over two thousand dollars worth of gear. I go into
his basement and up on the wall, I see not
one but two Bronze stars from service in Vietnam. Two
bronze stars.

Speaker 8 (57:46):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (57:47):
And and next time he doesn't talk about it. But
next time you talk to Captain Jim Fogel, please thank you,
thank him for his service.

Speaker 8 (57:56):
Amazing.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
I love him. He's going to be up next.

Speaker 8 (58:00):
There you go, thank you, bron That.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Doesn't Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. At a Jim focal heat. Jim,
Jim and I and Beth and Ruth. We've been friends
a long time and he's a class ax, so none
of that surprises me.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
That goes back to what you said earlier. We got
to watch out for the older guys.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Yeah, they're sneaky, dude. Huh, go ahead and grab it
and Vietnam go ahead and grab a hold of Jim
the next Yeah, good guy.

Speaker 10 (58:26):
But we will be out at the Veterans Day Parade
in Newport, Ritchie with our new boat as a float.
And uh, don't forget. Dylan has a friend for a
Bay Area legal services on November twelfth, you're seven and
three daughters brewing. He sent me that into that we
shared and helping them helping veterans out with legal services.

(58:47):
So that's a good thing too. For that's all a
part of Panella's County befest.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Right, Yes, I love that, love that good stuff.

Speaker 10 (58:56):
But thank you guys for your support.

Speaker 6 (58:58):
As always.

Speaker 10 (58:59):
You can find us on your instant pages and safety grams.
Just lift the lines of liberty and go to uh
your tweet, your tweety pages, whatever you say.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Good stuff again, Happy Veterans Day. Brother, I know that
uh you love to give you love to give a
lot of love out to a lot of veterans. But
you did, you did your time in some bad places,
and uh we appreciate you and all your brothers and
sisters that served this great country. My friend, thank.

Speaker 10 (59:25):
You, appreciate you guys, Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
All right, partner, good stuff right there. Gene Hammond is
a great, great dude, great dude. Let's check in with
our you know, Captain Jim Fogel, US Coast Guard Auxiliary Captain,
extraordinary Bronze Star recipient not sharing that information twice. Good
for you, Jim Fogel. Thank you for your service, my brother.

Speaker 8 (59:49):
Thank you guys, Thank you very much. Just doing my job.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
My job. That's that's above and beyond that. Uh. Most Americans,
not all, but most Americans are capable of. And it's
very impress I said, my friend. And like I said
right there when I heard it, that doesn't surprise me
out of you, my friend. I've known you a long
time and you're a great man.

Speaker 8 (01:00:07):
God bless you, Thank you, and thanks kept Jim Geane
Hammond for all that he's doing. Man, he's doing a
He just does a hell of a job, you know,
helping people, helping them bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Yeah, man, we forget about him too quick. They make
it all over the news. We ship them to these
hell holes all all over the world to you know,
fix problems, and they go in there, they fix the problem,
then they come back and we forget about them. It's
just it's uncalled for. Man, there's no there's no greater
job in this country in my opinion than keeping us
free and keeping us doing the things we love to do.

Speaker 8 (01:00:40):
So you know, absolutely, yeah, good stuff. I'm gonna give
you a quickie here on a hunter. A guy up
in California last month took off one morning in his
pickup truck with a camper. No it wouldn't have a camper.
It had I don't know, some sort of a top
on the back. But he took off, went into the

(01:01:04):
Sierra National Forest, which is not a that's a that's
a gnarly place, man. It's it's like ten thousand feet
up and very very very rocky. Anyway, took off, He
went down something. He was supposed to be an experienced hunter.
He went down the wrong trail and bottomed out. His

(01:01:25):
truck couldn't turn around.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:01:29):
To make a long story short, he survived for three weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
That's crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:01:37):
Now, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
A lot of friends noticed you miss him for three weeks.

Speaker 8 (01:01:44):
They did. They missed him after a while, but a
nobody knew where he was going. What does that mean?
That means in file or a height right and B
and B. He didn't have a PLB or anything with
him other than cell phone, which you know is up
in the Sierras. It's probably good for about twenty five

(01:02:05):
feet or something if that. Uh, But most of the
places you don't. You don't have any contact. So the
moral to the story is, you know, whether you're hunting
or fishing, if you want to take the search out
of search and rescue, tell somebody where you're going and
make sure you've got a PLB or something that will
get people focused. In on where you are.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Dude. Dude's kind of a badass though, because I mean
three weeks. Good point, he knows some stuff. Yeah, yeah,
he might not have been prepared for the to save himself,
but he was prepared.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
While yeah, Camper.

Speaker 8 (01:02:45):
Tell us will have a rough time. Yeah, that would
not be something we want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
You know, good, good, good, good.

Speaker 8 (01:02:51):
Do we want to spend three weeks on the water?

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
All right?

Speaker 8 (01:02:54):
Boys, thanks again for the time for the coast Guard,
ho ZOI and Saint Pete.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Jim Fogel that the brother great job.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
I know, personally getting lost in the woods for three
weeks without cell phone signal sounds pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
I was struggling with the whole California man goes hunting.
Yeah thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I was like, there's some parts of California that are
pretty legit. Yeah, for sure, very small part. Well there's yeah,
I agree, there's North California. It's there's some I heard.
I heard it's beautiful. Yeah, I heard it's amazing. I've
never been out there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
One of the one of the greatest firearm collectors I know,
and like some of the coolest stuff I ever got
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Guy lived in California. Oh yeah, he doesn't live there anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I doubt it. He moved to Texas. But there's some
cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Let's go to the floes here. Let's check in with
the mad snooker Dave Palmerloud David, how are you, brother?

Speaker 11 (01:03:48):
Good morning, gentlemen. You guys are doing a great job
as always. How many years now has it been?

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Mike A lot?

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Well, I think, if I'm not mistaken, February will be fifteen,
I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
On this show, but it's been like forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
He's such a jackwagon, he really is. It's hard to
be friends with some people, David, really hard.

Speaker 11 (01:04:14):
You know, you too are the voice of fishing for
the entire West Coast, you know, our whole area.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Listen. I've been telling I've been telling everybody Dylan is
the future voice because I'm not long for this world.
Because you've been at it for forty five years. Got
to keep putting up with Dylan to make them sooner
rather than later.

Speaker 11 (01:04:37):
You're doing a great job. Absolutely, Oh incredible. I got
a ninety four year old neighbor. He listens to you
guys every Saturday morning.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yeah, we appreciate all our listeners. I tell you that
the and you know what, the big shout out really
needs to go to Captain mel Berman because Mel started. Listen.
Mel mel made I say this all the time because
when you we talk radio in the fishing business, like
at icasts and things like that, people in other parts
of the country are like, eh, radio fishing show, blah

(01:05:07):
blah blah. It doesn't make sense. Mel Berman made fish
radio cool in the Tampa Bay market. He made it
possible for us to be able to do this. I mean,
he laid that path, and he did it with so
much class and so much style that unfortunately none of
us could possibly live up to that. But with that
being said, he made it possible. And I'll tell you

(01:05:29):
when we when Billy and I first got the show
on DAE and we were on Sundays and he was
on Saturday, it would have been real easy for him
to be like, oh, hell no, another fishing show in
my market. He could have been grouchy, he could have
been grumpy. He came in right away, gave us some love,
gave us some pointers, talked us through some stuff. And again,

(01:05:50):
Billy and I were both smart enough to know we
weren't going to we're not going to live up to that.
That's why we you know, we didn't try to go
up against him, because the dude's a legend. But he
made it possible, you know that, and all the incredible listeners.
The fishing, the passionate fishing community here in the Bay
Area is special. It's very, very and again there's great fishermen,

(01:06:10):
there's passion for the sport all over the country. Number
one participation in sport in the country. But the people
in Tampa Bay and Dylan knows this as well as anybody,
with the success that Hubbard's has here in the Bay Area,
that it's such a great market for fishing. It really is.
So we're blessed, really blessed.

Speaker 11 (01:06:27):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
I'll tell you this too. I'll tell you this for Dave.
I want you to know this too, David. I don't
know if I ever told you this. When this all
went down and I got this show fifteen years ago,
I was absolutely a nervous wreck. And I had been
doing radio for a while, but I was a total
train wreck on how we were going to possibly pull
this off. We were at the Frank Sargeant show, the

(01:06:49):
first one after we lost Mel and you and a
couple other people, but you, I especially remember because you
and I were friends, but we knew each other, but
we weren't as close as we've become over the years.
And you came up to me and were like, listen, dude,
you're the right guy. You're doing a great job. And
it meant so much to me coming from you, because
I knew how close you and mel were, how often

(01:07:11):
you were a caller and all that. So you helped
really kind of settle me into that role a little bit,
let me, I guess, believe that I could actually pull
this off for a while. So I thank you very much,
my friend. You were a big help to.

Speaker 11 (01:07:24):
You guys have pulled it off like superstars. And you
got admit, you know, you two have the best personality
in the chemistry between you guys, it's phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
We're pretty we're pretty blessed. We get along pretty good.
It's h we got some good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Did everybody forget he threatened to kill me earlier in
the show, Like we're just.

Speaker 8 (01:07:44):
That he was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Everybody knows, they know my personality, chemistry. You guys get
along so well.

Speaker 11 (01:07:54):
All right, whatever, you guys are knocking it out of
the park and I gotta fish. I gotta fish tonight
Tomorrow night. And man, I am not going out Monday
or Tuesday night. I can tell you that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yeah, well, Chili.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Going to be, Chili going to be.

Speaker 11 (01:08:09):
We had I had a couple of fish from me Monday,
Tuesday and Thursday night, and in those three nights they
got about one hundred and fifty snooke like twenty trout
a bunch of reds.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
I saw the. I mean yeah, I saw the I
just want to go to that night was slow.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I want to go back to occ Roadhouse and to
the conversation. My favorite part of that entire two hour
snook dissortation that you gave Dave. My favorite part was
the sewer snook story. I've told that to like two
or three different people so far.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
I love that.

Speaker 11 (01:08:39):
Yeah, several people witnessed me do it over the years
and they just were like, you.

Speaker 8 (01:08:45):
Gotta be kidding me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
That's awesome.

Speaker 11 (01:08:48):
I gotta find I gotta find a drain where that
I got to look for a manhole cover without a
work again and re enact it and do it over again.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Yeah, I get it. I do too. Video.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
Great show.

Speaker 11 (01:08:58):
I know you're up against the break and we we
appreciate it. And you guys keep up the good work
and many many more years to come.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Thank you, my friend. You talk soon about to have
a great weekend, right buddy. You know what's cool and
something to think about. You should see the pictures he
sends me every week before he calls. He sends me
all these pictures of these giant fish. If you want
to be inspired to catch big snook, follow the Mad
Snooker on social media, because dude, I'm telling you that's crazy.

(01:09:27):
It's cray z.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
I mean, the fifty one inch snuck story was pretty
good too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
On the West coast of Florida. To do what he
does snook wise, it's pretty sick. We got that sneaky
cat that comes to occ two that catches a lot
of pigs on the beach. He's a sneaky cat, Scott Snook. Yeah,
he likes the slider out all under the race, still
catching the beach. Oh yeah, he's dirty. There's no doubt.
You just look at him and go He's like fisherman Tim.

(01:09:55):
You got to keep an eye on those guys. Slider,
super fishy fish wrapping things up on the other side.
We'll be back the bartow Ford Real Animals Radio Show. Hey,
if you're making your way out today, maybe you're looking
for a great place to just check out the water.

(01:10:16):
You know, we live in the world's most beautiful place.
Big shout out to our friends that visit Saint Pete
Clearwater for our safe boating tip and something you could
go do today. Tomorrow the weather's going to be absolutely beautiful.
Make your way down to John's Pass to the Friendly Fisherman.
You know, the back under management of the Hubbard family,
same family that's been serving up the best fishing and
dining experiences in the Deer Beach for nearly a century.

(01:10:39):
Come rediscover the Friendly Fisherman and taste the difference with
the freshest seafood, improved menus in the service you've come
to expect from the Hubbard's name. Enjoy uneatable waterfront views,
a welcoming atmosphere and flavors straight from the Gulf. Locals
and visitors. Come see what's near today at the Friendly Fisherman.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
It's a great time to visit John's Pass for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Period.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Yeah's beautiful, tons of room, not a lot of people
around the Don's Dock, Seafood Market's got tons of stone crabs.
We got that new pirate ship to go cruising out
on with the family.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
It's pretty awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
So a lot of stuff going on in John's Pass
and the Friendly Fisherman's running that salmon special. They've got
those crazy baker wrap scallops and amazing fish bread. Definitely
worth going to visit today or tomorrow. With this weather's beautiful,
you could go hit the Friendly for lunch, maybe grab
some stone crabs at Don's Dock, then slide on over
to Rock Park for the King of the Beachway and dude, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Don't know, a great day. I don't know. If it
gets better, don't forget. We got our big Fishing for
Hope food drive coming up. It's a Saturday before.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Thanksgiving, Saturday, November twenty second, nine am to one pm
North Rome Avenue Holiday Tent and if you can't make
it there, you can donate dry food today at the
King of the Beachway and thanks to Old Salts or
starting this Monday through the twenty first, you can hit
the Bay Pines Pro Marine. Big shout out to Old
Salts and Pro Marine for getting on board again this

(01:12:01):
year and helping us out making fishing for Hope. Awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
World class people, just absolutely world class people at both
Old Salts and Promarne for getting involved and helping us
out and doing their things. So super cool. Yeah, exciting
for fishing for Hope.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Hopefully you guys can all join us and it's gonna
be a special day.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Yeah, it's a good time. Polar Bear and Sugar Bear
will be there. So the weather is looking really nice
through this weekend. Gonna get a little nautical on Monday quick.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Yeah, we're moving on Monday, Tuesday weather looks a little nautical,
So get out there and take advantage of the weather.
We're on the back side of that full moon. We
got some good water flowing. Fishing is going really well.
It's going to be a great day today and tomorrow.
Then you're gonna have to wait a few days for
to calm back and stabilize behind the front, probably Wednesday
Thursday before fishing recovers.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
And don't forget if you're too busy to go fishing.
You're just too darn busy. We'll see you tomorrow night
seven thirty pm for the live stream show and tomorrow
mornings seven to nine for six twenty WDA Real Animals Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Today Mahony Company, Real Animals Radio Show. Captain Mike Mahoney
is leaving I think today or early tomorrow for Georgia
and myself, Captain Big Ben Marshall will be in. We
may have a guest with us as well, so check
it out. Give us a call. We'll be taking them
talking fishing live.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Yes, sir, and don't forget if you're too busy to
go fishing, you're just too darn busy, too darn busy.

Speaker 7 (01:13:32):
Rout