May 8, 2025 • 53 mins
Today's 80th anniversary of victory over the Nazis in Europe feels like an occasion for reflection, as threats escalate in India and Pakistan and Russia’s brutal war of aggression in Ukraine drags on. So, is America still the indispensable nation, able to facilitate peace? Or has that historic role evaporated? Leon Panetta has been Congressman, White House Chief of Staff, Defense Secretary, CIA Director, and more. He speaks with Christiane from California.
Also on today's show: Christopher Bellito, Specialist in Church History and Reform at Kean University in New Jersey; historian Margaret MacMillan
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