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November 18, 2025 43 mins

Andy Muir talks to Mark Patterson, Sam Grant, Steve Henderson, James Burrows, Clayton Peters and Mark Calder.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokunui. My
name is Andy Mua. Here until two o'clock this afternoon
thanks to Peter's genetics, welcome along on a glorious southern afternoon.
We'll look at the weather shortly, but the temperature is
certainly something that we need to see a bit more of,
and you'd expect that for this time of year. But anyway, look,

(00:24):
Jamie's been talking about it on the country over the
past couple of days regarding well sill going to get
a name for this, the Southern storm shout as such,
happening to Nigel Woodheads next Thursdays. That's Thursday next week
at Levels Flat, which is halfway between Balcluther and Milton,
from three o'clock. So we're going to be all over
this and it would be great for you all to

(00:45):
attend as well, to take a bit of a chance
to get off farm and to do something just a
deviate away from the day to day operations at the moment.
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(01:07):
dot co dot NZ. So This afternoon sunny with calm,
variable wins in a higher twenty three. Thursday partly cloudy
with breezy nor westerlies eleven and twenty three. That's all good.
Friday a bit cooler rain with light soil westerly six
and twelve. Saturday sunny with breezy easterly six and seventeen,
and Sunday afternoon showers of breezy westerlies five and sixteen.

(01:29):
So temperature to hand Clinton thirteen point three, Northern South
and thirteen, Rivetons thirteen point three, Tianne twelve point three,
Winton twelve point three as well and Woodland's at twelve
point one. Starting the hour with Mark Patterson, Minister for
Rural Communities in his self Lineral Support Trust Slot, talking
about deviating away from the normal, having to do what

(01:51):
you need to do after a storm event. Yes it
was a month ago, but we're wrapping up this today
of course thanks to community Trusts South with Minister Patterson
talking about from this perspective how things have been over
the last month. Sam Grand and Craig's Investment Partners is
on the program. Steve Henderson farming at Alua. How's the
situation down there with Steve. I think he's fled out
doing tractor work at the moment. James Burrows from Darry

(02:13):
and Z's on the program, and Clayton Peters out of
Peter's Genetic Saming sponsors. Here on the Muster, we catch
up with PUP and see how things out there are
out there out at Harriet. Mark Corner from PGG writes
and gives an update on the Balkluther stock sale that
will start the your with Mark Patterson. You're listening to
the Muster until two o'clock thanks to Peter's Genetics. Just
on seven after one, thanks to the South and Rural

(02:52):
Support Trust, we're catching it with different individuals involved with
farming sectors down here in the South of course, an
association with Community Trusts South. This afternoon we are catching
up with Mark Patterson. He is a Minister for Rural Communities. Mark,
good afternoon, great to chat. It's been a while.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Good afternoon, Andy, Ye, good to be on.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
So about a month on from the events that occurred,
as far as the win situation down here in the South, Mark,
when you reflect back on those four weeks, it's certainly
showing there's a big task ahead. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, I mean, firstly, it was a really big event
in terms of how widespread the damage was with the
south coast of South Under right up through the cluture
and then you know there's a gap through the middle
of the island and then hit hard again through Harnui
and Kokorus. So yeah, very widespread.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I take it the power situation has been resolved.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Now, Yeah, to the best of my knowledge, and I
mean it's been an incredible efforts and power it in
those early days to get things up and running and
the crews that came in to help them from Waitaki
and Central Tago and the like as well picul and task.

(04:12):
But you know, even then, you know we hit people
out of without pawth ten twelve days, which is pretty debilitating.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
So when we reflect back on those events of four
weeks ago, Mark, there are a number of things that
came to the four We'll start off with this straight
away being rural connectivity. I'm sure you guys are pushing
for this up in Parliament, but the fact we had
to rely on three g to get one bar on
our cell phones and this three G network is being disestablished.
It's a big concern.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
It is a big concern.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
And I think that that was the biggest lesson, just
the fragility of our rural connectivity. And you know, we
actually had one New Zealand and here yesterday sort of
talking through the bolstering of their networks, and you know,
you get these sort of soothing sounds from corporate headquarters,
but you know, when push come to shove and we're

(05:01):
under real pressure, there was people without connectivity for quite
some time and that was the feed that got that
was the most abilitating, but not knowing what was happening,
and whilst the emergency management was pumping out huge amounts
of information, people just simply weren't able to get it.
And it was third world stuff actually at times. So

(05:23):
we've got to get much much more resilient in that network.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Arguably parts of the third world would have better connectivity
than what we experienced. And if we're going to have
to rely on four G n FI G going forward,
there's going to have to be serious, serious conversations had
regarding rural Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well they're giving us, as I say, all sorts of
siving sounds that the four G will be equivalents in
terms of coverage, but there is some request then in
terms of network bandwards. But I would say the most
underestimated response or toll on this response is radio and

(06:03):
howker needed fantastic yourself chatty. You know, time and time
again we're hearing that that was the lifeline, that was
the one avenue people had to get information. So we
really owe your data gratitude. And as policy makers, we've
got to make sure we recognize that, Sam and Gabriel,
and so we're going to make sure we sort of

(06:24):
fire our radio network as.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Well based on that mark. I think more than anything,
this brings to the four that people don't really have
a plan B in place as far as a survival pack.
I mean, we think back to the COVID times and
goodness me, how much toilet paper and the likes are
left over from that day and age. But it's all
about having a plan be in place. Do you think
we're really up to the spit up to pace as

(06:46):
far as having a plan B in case of an emergency.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well, there's some real lessons there wasn't there, And I mean,
you know, we can look at the top down stuff
from the government. But I think in terms of the
just an individual preparedness that business preparedness se many you know,
let's be honest, theory farmers didn't have a generator, capacity
to access to a generator, even sheds wide up for

(07:09):
a generator, putting massive pressure on actually a volunteer network
to keep them going. And that's a lesson that I'm
sure that we'll be learned and you know, we'll be
followed up on by the companies. At a community level,
Has every community got a facility that's got access to
a generator and starlink or some sort of you know,

(07:34):
resilience built into it that everyone in the community knows
they can go there to to charge their phones or
you know, get information or whatever it might be. So
there's a whole number of layers to this that we've
got to take into account because the big question that
we keep getting asked, you know, imagine if this was
you know, the fault line going, you know, and we

(07:54):
didn't have roading access and things like that on top
of this. So I think we've got to be much
more prepared at a number of levels.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
As far as funds from the government, Southern district may arrived.
Scott has been critical saying for the amount of GDB
produced by such a low amount of the population, there
should be more on the ground here for response services.
Would you agree with that?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Well, you put me on the spot there, Andy, But yeah,
I mean it's been a pretty modest contributional though, you know,
rounded fifty or seventy thousand. I think, all up, we've
got to be careful here. You know, this is not
to bail out businesses. You know, it's type of businesses
to protect themselves or build resilience into their system. But

(08:42):
where we can help at a community level, whether that's
through support for the real support trust or meror relief funds,
we should be doing that with there's some community good
element to it and some wellbeing stuff here, and those
groups too exceedingly well as we know, doing great work.
But it's a hard balance to strike. But yeah, I

(09:04):
think Rob has you know, he's got a point, and
I think our systems need upgraded too. I mean, it
was actually getting the money out of the door was
pretty clunky, which created some anxiety for organizations that were
just trying to do some really good stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Passporce workers have they been mentioned at all Mark regarding
their recovery Tasle's key.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
We yes, So I went up and saw them in
action up in Hernuis. They're in negotiations to come down
both the Kluth and Southland, putting a bit of a
stretch on their resources as well, and I know the
Rural Support Trust and the real advisory groups are looking
at how they might best deploy those resources. But they

(09:48):
are really good addition into our recovery toolcat as a
country mainly ex service personnel. They're all trained up, they've
got their health and safety that James, it's the like,
but you know it's inequity and how to deploy them to,
you know, people that may have been most badly if impacted.

(10:11):
But we really are encouraged. We're really pushing on the
safety side of things. You know that message cannot get
through enough. These trees down are still under low they're
still dangerous if they get people that which frankly as
most of us haven't got the skills to deal with
that sort of dangerous tree. So you know, really encouraging

(10:34):
people to get the professionals to forestry gangs that have
come out of the forest to help get them to
assess the trees first, work out what's safe to what's not.
Get the heavy gear, get the specialist gear, get the
people that know what they're doing to do the heavy stuff,
and then you know, we can clean up the rest
of the family.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
With some farmers. I've spoken to Marke and talking about
a year being in recovery mode.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
What are you hearing, Well, that'll be true. I mean
some of the properties, you know, it's it's heart wrenching
to see and of course this has happened at such
a busy time of the year, so it could be
worse in that regard. So a lot of the stuff
said to be parked up and just worked around for now.
But some of that's not a bad thing because there's
a lot of danger in some of those fallen or

(11:20):
a half fallen tree, so it's you know where you
can just work around it. But yeah, it's going to
be a long, long haul and that's where you know
the Royal Support Trust come in because they're there for
the long haul helping farmers through these events.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Mark Patterson, Minister for Eral Communities, thanks to your time
on the muster and keep out the good work out
there in Parliament.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Thanks any.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Mark Patterson, Minister for Eral Communities. Of course, thanks to
the South and real support trust and conjunction with Community South,
we're catching up with various people, so Mark giving some
insight there from a government perspective. Sam Grant and Craig's
and Vests Partners is up next. You're listening to the Muster.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
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Speaker 1 (12:27):
Sam Grant of Craig's Investment Partners is on the line
once again. Good afternoon, Sam, After today Yeah, going really well.
I'll tell you what town's been a hyper activity, especially
this morning. At one stage there are four or five
buses parked up the line to go to the toilet.
Here the public loes is just about out into the footpath.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
I think it's starting to feel like twenty nineteen the game.
I think Queen Sound on the area in New Zealand
where tourism sort of above those pre COVID levels, and
I think we're probably trying to see some of that
flow out into the regions, and.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
The best thing is they're going to be left with
an impression the gore has beautiful weather.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
Yeah, I hopefully it means they would turn in a
scent of at a time here next time, just.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Don't turn up in the middle of the June. Right.
We'll touch on this briefly. Another correction, the GDT overnight
dropping back three percent. The main driver is there, obviously
whole milk powder back one point nine percent, but it
back seven point six percent. But everything's leading to a
drop in the payout based on these Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
Absolutely, I think that's what about six or seven in
a row now that we're seen drop. I think a
big leagon and I spoke one of the one of
the biggest ones in the last five or so, but
I think a big driver this time around has been
that sort of tawer for leaf was seen out of
the US on agricultural products and agricultural inputs. I don't

(13:51):
want to say much bet better softening on the expectation
that a bit of a leaf for sort of US
dery and international markets the.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Old terraff situation can tends to be an interesting one
changing by the day.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
Yeah, absolutely, and it's I'm sure they'd be plenty of
clear news flow between now and the end of the
year store as well.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right, there's been a bit going on in the rural
sector this year, and overall you've got to look at
meat and dairy prices as such. Okay, the payouts going
to drop a little bit, but still looking really really good.
Red meat prices are buoyant. The Alliance sales occurred in
the last four or five weeks, the Fonterra capital return
as well, So it's a good opportunity for people to

(14:31):
just sit there and look at the positives in the
sector at the moment, especially with you guys.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
Yeah, absolutely. You know, I think it's been a bumper
year on the whole, right across the board. You know,
I think it's not often we get a year where
red meat and dairy are sort of really really strong. Now,
it's been really nice to see and I think you're starting
to see it flow through to the other sectors and
sort of in our community effectively. Talking around town, most

(14:57):
people are pretty positive about the outlook at the moment,
which is really nice to see. Yeah, and sort of
as part of that, given you know, there has been
quite a bit of stuff happening in the real sector
at the moment. I think Craigs are doing a wee
bit of a road show in sort of early December,
so getting out into sort of some of these smaller
towns to sort of touch base of farmers effectively.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
So what's going to be happening at these events is
such the insent.

Speaker 6 (15:22):
Yeah, so what we're doing is we'll sort of going
to some local pubs, So I think we're going to
what's about seven and south On at the moment. Defecially,
what we're going to do is have a sort of
short ten to fifteen minute presentation, sort of conscious that
at this time of the year farmers are still busy,

(15:42):
so I don't want to hold you up for too long,
but you do sort of ten or fifteen minutes asking
any questions around alliance upon tier what I say, if
you've got sech for scarce, what you should be doing
with it at the moment, And we have plenty of
time for questions and answers as well. So yeah, So
we're going to be in Wyndham at the Three Rivers
Pub on the second of December, Riversdale on the third

(16:05):
of December, must have been on the fourth of December,
and then the following week will be in Winton and
a Chautowl on the eighth of December, Tapanui on the
ninth and then out at Clydevale on the tenth of December.
So there's been a bit of a mail out there
that will sort of hit mailboxes this week. But yeah,
if you haven't received one then you're interested, going just

(16:25):
give us a call or an email.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Just a good chance to catch up with the team
and put a name to the faces that they hear.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
Yeah. Absolutely, obviously got plenty of listeners here will be
getting up in the mailbox and have been either listened
to me for a very long time now, and obviously
David and Tom as well, So it's a good chance
to come meet us, put the face of the name
if you're interested. I think at worst, if you're listening,
you know, you get a couple of three beers on
us and maybe a cheese roll. So it's a bad
chance to get off farm as well for forty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
So well and all, what's going to happen at these events, so.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
We'll do Yeah, so turn up be sort of a
ten or fifteen minute presentation and then we'll obviously everybody
can grab a beer on some day and then we'll
sort of hang around for any questions and answers. If
people have any burning questions or if you have one
another drink, you're more than welcome to Safety afternoon.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I guess sounds a good chance just to people to
liaise with you guys as such your South Time and Dave,
and just get a bit more of an understanding about
investing off farm.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, So we'll run through options that people
have or what we can do if people are interested
in that space. We'll give it an update on what
Fontier is going to look like post kept you return
and what they might look like for Fontier Farmers, and
you can even touch on the lines a little bit
if people have any burning questions around that as well.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
So people need to register or just turn out, what
do you think?

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Yeah, well, so our preference would be if you can
register so here to contact us that Gore at craigsip
dot com. We'll just go us a call on two
eight nine to three one zero. Yeah, that's manly, just
to get an idea on numbers so we know how
many cheese rolls to chuck on the pile. WI my handy.
But you know if you turn up on the day
obviously you won't be turned away that you know. We'd
appreciate an idea of numbers if possible.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Absolutely for catering purposes. Hey, or throw this that you said,
I'm under racing New Zealand dollar. I wouldn't say it's crashed,
but it's been up around the ninety cent mark. Ninety
cent mark against the Aussie dollar back down to eighty
seven cents. There's quite a big correction.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely. You know I was seeing quite a
bit of movement there and across the other currencies as well, yes,
or a bit of a flow of careful out and too.
It probably just shows a sort of a bit of
a strengthening overseas at the moment competitives lead to New Zealand.
You know, we are at the moment wile things are
really good down air way and sort of more on

(18:42):
the regional centers, yea, things are still pretty tough and
sort of big major sceners, particularly Aukhand and Wellington. I
think they're sort of being reflected on the Curntcy'll leave
it at the.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Moment because you look at the US dollar currently it's
around fifty seven cents against the pound sterling over in
the UK. I remember on my oe a long long
time go now, but it was like three to one.
It's not quite there yet, but forty three pence to
a New Zealand.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
Dollar, Yeah, that's probably the last I've seen it for
a long time, and sort of post bricks that it
was sort of above fifty cents. So it just shows
how much that's or how much of the pound is
strengthened against the New Zealand dollar. But ye're still not
quite at levels that I remember as a kid, where
it used to be three to one.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Overall, said, we just look at the scenario you were
facing down here in the deep sale sunshine certainly puts
a spring in your step, no pun intended for the
end of November, but generally when you're talking to farmers
and the lights of just looking at options going and
going forward as such.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
Yeah, absolutely, so, you know, I've seen quite a bit
of time with farmers at the moment. I think as
interest rates have come down, farm profits have been a
lot better this year. Your farmer's sort of looking at
options to sort of move some money off farm into
some off farm diversification, either for to spread their risk
or particularly now that we see quite a bet of

(19:59):
the around sectisian planning and sort of trying to build
up an set off farm to help with that sort
of got more than one child and not everybody wants
to go a bait to the farm these days.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
So absolutely now once again, Sam Craig's IP the best
way for people to get in touch.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Yeah, so you give us a call on two eight
nine t one zero or Wes at craigsip dot com.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Get on your Sam. Always good to catch up. Awesome Tony,
Sam Grad of Craigs and Vestment Partners. This is the
Muster up. Next we'll wait down to Abarua Steve O
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(20:46):
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Speaker 7 (21:27):
Afternoon, Andy, I'm not too bad. Actually, horsing's gone up there.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, it's a beautiful day. It's like twenty three degrees.
Forecasts are high today, tourists everywhere around town. There's a
real vibe in detail.

Speaker 7 (21:39):
Yeah, it's been an eight. I think the fact that
they kids will tourself has made her of a different weather.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
But the problem is it scared A scheduled for January.

Speaker 7 (21:50):
I won't needy January. It be fine, maybe not so
much a field day's piece, but there's a farmer Yes we.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Need absolutely, I mean field Day, Southern field Day's coming
around sooner later how's everything looking on the farm though,
Are you getting those trees under control?

Speaker 7 (22:04):
Yep, yep, we've yeah back last time. We've got them
all cleaned off the lines and got pair all resurrected
and everything's pretty much as it was. We've just got
quite a few palls when we'll take a bit forward
out of the mix and and get them heaped up
and burnt when time permits. But it's probably just just
keeping a noise on in calf kills now going into

(22:25):
peddocks with Mick a cap pulled up on them, so
making sure we fenced them and make sure pairs on
the fence, and yeah, the last thing we want is
to go through and have a dose of that Meca kappa. Yes,
it may be worse for them than the third trimester,
but I suppose it's still a bit of a risk
of losing a fetus. So yeah, yep, just keeping necka
kappa at bay until we burn it and I think

(22:46):
we'll be back under control another couple of four weeks.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
So you're busy with mating at the moment, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
Yep, So we just finished. We'll finish there into the
first three weeks on Saturday, So as a whole Madea's
been down pretty good. There's always good pub talk when
you talk.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
About submission rates and stuff.

Speaker 7 (23:03):
But yeah, where we're on, we're actually about five percent
hit of last year, and last year was reasonably good.
We had it was eighty one percent submitted in the
first three weeks, so we don't, well we paigeed to
get eighty odd chaos. But other than that year, there's
no seeders, were not too much interventions. So yeah, we're
tracking pretty good and you can you can have as

(23:25):
many as its submitted as you want, but it's all
about in calf for that first three weeks. So yeah,
non return rates will tell a story for next week.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Would you say amazing's a stressful time of year or
just a matter of it's just a matter of effect
for the time of season.

Speaker 8 (23:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
I often talked to staff and you talked to a
lot of people about it, thinking, oh, are you ready
for carving, and like Calvin's Calvin's pers easy. It's there's
nothing else happening at that time of the year. It's
just literally carving. So yeah, it's right now yet mating
it's not stressful, it's just to I'm consuming, you know,
there's a person there grabbing cares and the obviously got

(24:00):
the tech turning up, so that's one person tied up there.
And you're also right now we're waning cabs literally right now,
you know, top and pettics and cultivation, trying to get
seed in the ground. Yeah, there's a lot going on
at the time of you, and it's just managing what
needs to be done at first and then you get
seven at third. So yeah, I think the time of
the air the heack of a lot more busy, not

(24:20):
necessarily more stressful, but just busier. And you're just pretty
good at the time management and human air gallocation.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
So ground conditions there are pretty good.

Speaker 7 (24:30):
Starting to get better would be how you describe that.
So yeah, we're still pretty damp. We haven't had any
disk come off the back of the pair hair yet,
so I suppose guys and set yourself and will be
a bit easy of that. But they probably didn't catch
as much rain as we did during those winds and stuff.
So yeah, we're getting seed in the ground. And we

(24:51):
actually just had to read all some summer turnips. We
put some in three weeks ago and to all two
muches played out at about eight degrees, so a lot
of them rotted. So we're going to scratch a few
more and I'm hopefully today tomorrow you've got them back
for February grazing.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
So temperatures all around twelve to thirteen degrees at the moment,
as you'd expect.

Speaker 7 (25:09):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, and in hindsight TOAs goodhead I know,
and that we were going to have another you know,
two or three weeks of eight degrees all temperatures, we
would have never put them on the ground, but we
were sort of on that false rising plane, and then
we had that clip come through. So and you've got
to get your summer turnips in reasonably early, so you've
got the turnaround to get you young grass grazed before
we dry off. So we'll with this as their last

(25:31):
week this window. So if we don't get them in
this week, we'll you probably grass to grass them. We
go down a different train.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
So how many petics are summer turnips are you putting in?

Speaker 7 (25:39):
We're doing about ten heat tiers in one place and
then about fourteen on the other place, so it's just
enough to do about two or three kilos of their
diet for about forty days to push that round about.
And it's also a bit of a regrossing regime. Some
of those peddics are but tired, so it does just
up up your regrossing rates. So and it also gives
a bit of opportunited to do some draining, is a

(26:01):
bit of development rather than through the winter crop phase
when you can still of do it within three or
four months and keep it pidded as good as king b.
So yeah, we've done it for a few years and
the last year we missed ot of one fan getting
the turn and it was we needed it. So yeah,
we use a lot of silver get but turn ups
is obviously still a very cheap feed. And why you

(26:21):
made to keep kare of milking through that degree late
January degree?

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Would you call it a safety need a such for summer?

Speaker 7 (26:28):
I think it is. You know it's a ye double
sword for year. You don't need your turnip stuff ground
really well, high yielding. You've got a lot of grass,
but you still got that you know, praheaked. You've still
got to grow as much well not necessarily grasped as
much driving as you can. So yes, you've grown all
these turnips that you need to eat, but there you

(26:49):
can harvest that grass and put it into buy a little,
put it into.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Onto crop.

Speaker 7 (26:55):
So yeah, I don't think that's either a lose by
putting turnip in. But some years you don't need them,
but you'll always make use of that other grass. So
it is a good asturange policy.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Now you've gone away from grass win terrain putting in swedes.
Tell us about that, and what are you thinking the
next season, because you're going against the grain affixing effectively.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
Yeah, So it was last year's where there just wasn't
that what do you call it? Well for trying to
make as much better as we could. So we ended
up putting cropping to try and bridge that gap that
we never had enough to try meta. So we put cropping,
and the kills actually wanted probably the best of heaven

(27:36):
a long long time, and just looking back at what
we were doing, we were making bailed. But the variability
of the mea failed is quite high, so it could
be you could have some eight and a half up
to maybe teen and a half, but you want to
crop your swedes are pretty consistently me So this year
we were going to jointly worl water on breaskers and
then we're going to try and our fourt end day

(27:56):
period pre carving that they'll transition onto grass and bails
so when they carve down their diets as it would
be when they're milking, and hopefully they'll try and lessen
a bit of a bit of a milk fever issues.
We had this spring coming off the deck of crop,
and probably transition wasn't as good because we had too
much crop in the even we had to try and
get through it. So yeah, you know, change is always good.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
And if we can change something to make something.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
Better, that'll work out. So yeah, that's what's the planners
this year.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
So made a bout of gusues this year. You touched
on milk for you the hell they ranked compared to
other seasons.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
At the point in time, you think you're getting bloody
heaps and milk fever because you're big and the kal
here and there there, But we're only probably teen KOs
more than the previous years. So as a whole, you know,
we might have had thirty thirty or forty maybe clinical
stuff either pre carving or post cabin and yeah, the
year before we might have been you know, thirty odds.

(28:49):
So yeah, as a whole, not a huge amount, but
it's still an issue that I think we can try
and get on top of. And you're putting gypsum in
the mix during the springers was yeah, bit of a
chamber two. So we'll go down next week to and
be the pock No Favors sort of just knocked it
on the head, like you start putting gypsum, so we
can transition inm a bit better and get Chipson in

(29:10):
the diet hopefully next springs looking pretty good.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Good on you, Steve. We'll let you carry on, but
we always appreciate your time. Genetic Steve Henderson farming down
at Alarua. You're listening to the Muster before the end
of the hour. Clayton Peters out of Peter's Genetics. Up
next from Deary and Zed James Burrows. Welcome back to

(29:46):
the Muster. James Burrows as area manager for Derry and
Z based through the North and Central Otago regions. His
debut appearance on the Mustard this afternoon. James, welcome, thank.

Speaker 9 (29:58):
You, thank you. Good to be to be on and
catch up.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah yeah, okay, James, a bit of background about yourself.

Speaker 9 (30:07):
Yeah, note too easy, so I'm Canterbury born and bred
in North Canterbury. So I started actually with Darien Zed
in the South Wyo. I did three years up there
out of university, then did a year overseas working in

(30:27):
the UK, and then came back to the family farm.

Speaker 8 (30:31):
Was there for nine years and really loved it. Wasn't
the idea to give it up, but my wife and
her family's all based in central Otago and she got
the opportunity to sit up and run a bar and
restaurant down here. So that's how I find myself and

(30:53):
Alexandra of all places of math.

Speaker 9 (30:54):
So yeah, no, good to see a bit of sun
after a bit of a dull winter and slow spring
and never ending when it seems around here. So yeah,
happy to be here now.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
So predominantly from a dairy farming background then.

Speaker 9 (31:11):
Yeah, yeah so my family, so I was the fourth
generation on our farm and my sister's still there at
the moment. So yeah, we converted that. Oh what would
that been now twenty eight nine years ago?

Speaker 6 (31:31):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 9 (31:33):
Majority of my life been been involved with dairy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
So what is your role as such of dairy and
Z being area manager? What does it entail?

Speaker 9 (31:44):
So we are I guess the simplest way of putting
it is where the link between farmers and what happens
in the background in terms of science and research and
development and policy. So we sort of act as that
that middle middle person and try and convey what what

(32:06):
is happening behind the scenes, because there's a lot of
good work and even when you're within the organization of Darien,
the the amount of work that's going on is just
mind boggling. That's his net daily reminders of what's going
on and what's changing and what's happening. So trying to
trying to be that link, that link person between what

(32:29):
is going on and the farmers who are obviously are
key contacts.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, now it's November, it's the Gunnals to the floor
is such to coin a phrase. So a lot of
a lot of different events going on at the moment,
I'd imagine.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (32:45):
So we're coming into our homegrown feed events that are
highly topical. At the moment was Pastor booming and gross
and a lot of places really starting to finally hit
it straps. So we've got five homegrown event feed events

(33:05):
happening throughout the South and South Otago and North Otago regions.
So they start next week and you're really really good
opportunity to get along and we've got a number of
those events, have got breakout sessions for junior staff to
help upskill them and also for senior staff sort of

(33:29):
adding that extra bit of knowledge that maybe haven't thought
of or haven't come across in a while. So yeah,
really good events and all those details are available on
the darien Z website that they start next week and
flow into the first week of December.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
It's been another interesting spring down here in the south.
What's a feat situation? Like, what are you hearing?

Speaker 9 (33:54):
Yeah, I think it's been. It's been slow everywhere. The
feed situation finally now is coming starting the playball. So
we're seeing a lot of contractors around cutting silage, cutting
bay ridge, trying to get on top of surflaces. But

(34:17):
like I say, at the feedback has been that hasn't
necessarily been as wet as last spring, but growth is
pretty similar. So it has been slow by all accounts,
and that's sort of been reflective and Central as well.
It's been a lot slower here whereas North Totago it's

(34:40):
largely been has been slow, but not to the extent
that it has been seen down in South ond and
South Otago to finally starting the playball, and we are
seeing surpluses come around. And that's sort of pretty evident.
If you're on the roads and you're stuck behind a
tractor or stuck behind a truck card it's a Baylor somewhere.

(35:01):
So finally claim ball.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
James Burrows, Area manager for Deary and Zed, Thanks for
your time on the muster. Good day boo. We'll catch
up again.

Speaker 9 (35:09):
All right, brilliant, Thanks for the call and we'll just
catching up later.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
James Burrows of Derry and Z. You're listening to the
muster before we wrap up, we're away to Hearriet to
catch up with Clayton Peters out of Peter's Genetics. Welcome back.

(35:39):
You're listening to the Muster on Hakanuie. Clayton Peters out
of Peter's Genetics and naming sponsors here on the muster
joins us once again farming up at Harriet with a
few other operations on the side as well around the region.
Get a parp house, eggs.

Speaker 5 (35:52):
No good things.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
How's everything going in west of Targo today? You've had
a bit of blue sky this morning and enjoying it
into the afternoon obviously.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
Yep, no, it's look, it's been a good, great morning,
no wind. It was winter getting used today, but obviously
we're we're getting used to the window of the spring.
But that's good. Today we're going to plane over at
Cleverdale's Putty a bit of line one and we're going
to seed a few blocks with the plane. So it's
a good day for that. So hopefully getting all the
seed on and get covered later on today and that
job will be one job, another job ticked off the list.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
That's a good job to get done, especially given the
way the winds.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Babe, Oh yeah, well it's been we've sort of been
waiting on it on the plane and wait in the weather.
It be right but behind their track where we're kept
slowly catching up. And yes, hopefully get the seed on
it rain, hopefully get a bit of rain on Friday,
a bit of luck.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
How's it looking there as far as the grasscover is
it starting to move now?

Speaker 5 (36:43):
To be fair, it's actually probably slowed down, I reckon
because it's just it's just as she getten quite dry.
It's obviously not burning off, but like the ground is
very hard.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
So you're after some rain, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yep, yep, no, we you never turned down rail this
time of the year, but we do need rain keep
things ticking on. We have got good covers. It's quite
look at the best heads for quite a few years.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Really.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, it's unteresting when you look at the season today.
So I think it's a higher twenty three or twenty
four and go today. But considering the way the way
there's been, and everybody's saying the same thing as you.
A little bit of rain just to take things over
because the ground starting to get a bit hard when
you're working it.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
Yeah, well, yeah, we we opened up some blocks. Yeah,
last two weekends to get my brothers and I couldn't
get over hard the ground was. And yeah, it would
have been nicely bit of most before we did it.
One of my things a bit softer. But oh yeah,
will all the lamb feed and stuff we have got
and you know it need to share a rain so
it's all way through the ground. But you can just
tell it struggling.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
How did tailing go?

Speaker 5 (37:39):
We finally finished on Friday. We Yeah, we end up
tailing about forty two lambs between all the outfits. So yeah,
it was Yeah, we were all places to see the
end of it. We were sick of tailing in the
wind and the cold days, but we got it done
on the end, so it was actually it was good
to finish up.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
So how many days did that take? Forty two tails off?

Speaker 5 (37:58):
We're working with averaging two two and a half the
hours a day over the whole thing. We have to
do a couple of big days here and there, depending
on mob sizes, but so yeah, it's a few days.
It's a few days, but.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, yeah'll be pretty chuffed though the last lamb going
down the shoet, it's almost like a celebration of the
jobs done. That's a hell of a task.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
Well, yeah, it was, it was. It was actually good
to finish up. And obviously you end up I've got
the kid time from school in Lincoln and so we
finished up with a bit of sort of family day
really on the last day with a few hobbits and
waits over at Cleveland Air So that was quite good.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
So you're quite happy with your Telly's or things considered.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Yeah, we're probably probably I'm taking over the old the outfit.
We're probably average about one hundred and forty two hundred
and forty three percent Lemming. So it's not too bad.
But I I at home, I've yeah, I got heavy
with that, that that bad bad weather. I was. I
was right in the middle Lemming. So my mind was
back a little bit. Was when I was really hoping.
But hey, it is. I can't you can't do much
about the weather.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
So now we're getting through to two thirds of the
way through November. It's not that long till December the
twenty first year. I say it without saying what the
day actually is part, But I mean you start looking
at the season now, start looking at what we're going
to get rid meat price wise, and it's looking pretty buoyant.
I think it's fair to.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Say, yeah, it's looking very good. Yeah, may like may,
may it stayed here for a while a long time,
it'd be great, but we'll see it happens. But yeah,
they're looking it's looking pretty good up to Christmas from
Org and see what I've been told.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
So yeah, so do you drench on the eos?

Speaker 5 (39:25):
I no, not, not only certain amount we do. I do.
I do some testing and I need drinks on the wall.
But now we'd try to take them through to weaning
and do the weaning. We did. We did do the
early goes. We're abtoually winning them next week so that
those lands are looking quite good, but so it'll be
interest to see how they go.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Do you have a problem to deal with wearing burdens
or drench resistance as such.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
I think everyone's got a problem these days, and we're
monitored it all the time. I think we have to.
But we're trying to not drench as much as we
you know, we try not to drink often. So yeah,
we like we didn't drench any us this year pre lamb.
You've knows is that there's a bit more. Of course,

(40:07):
I say ship on them, but the yous are still healthy,
so I'm happy with not drenching. So you know the
ends where she sort of rams up to our afternoon,
so they're they're looking really good, So it'd be good
to get up closer than the yards and have a
bit of a sort up.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, ram selling season comes around quicker than not.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
Oh tell me about it. It's yes, and we're probably
be like getting a news there out, but it is
out and it has been posted to a lot of
our clients so they will get it. So you know,
I've had a few field the ringing up to say
no are we are you selling rams? Still a lot,
but I said, yeah, we are really just been behind
the season. I don't know why. It's just the weather.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
No, it's just been one of those seasons. I suppose
you're just trying to look forward and think happy thoughts
every now and then.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
Right, yep, yep, But I think she's not. He's looking
and she's looking promising in the meat world.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, that's a good way to be. Hey, you get
on your pup, will leave it there. We know you've
got stuff to do. Peters Genetics, naming sponsors here on
the muster, yourself and everybody. We do appreciate you being
involved and yeah, hopefully you get that top dressing on. Oh,
by the way, as well, you crack it, can we?
Killer Beese? You're an integral part of that team. You
go again this week after last week?

Speaker 5 (41:11):
Right, yep, No, I'll be I'm backing on again this week. Yep.
I enjoyed last week. It was just a bit cold,
But Sherry, you.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Enjoy playing an eight degrees in the rain? You kidding?

Speaker 5 (41:21):
Oh? I was miserable at one stage, I think.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
It's sucked to beg kuper, but it's another for a
meta day. Hey, we'll leave it, pup, got on your mate.
Always appreciate your type.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
Oh tease very much, Jenny, laugh out.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
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(41:56):
lived on my grandma's savings, and grandma recently died. My
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(42:17):
good to catch up. A Clayton Peter's main stay the
way Kelley Killey killer Bee's middle order. Believe it there
for the afternoon, I'm Andy Muhy. You've been listening to
the muster on Hakanui of course, thanks to Peters to
the next enjoy the afternoon podcast going up shortly see tomorrow. Hey,
well i'll right too, hea't go there? And what did
he go on again for? I'm a stock selling action

(42:38):
comes courtesy of PGG writes in this afternoon, Mark Calder
is going to give us a rundown on the Barcluther
sale that was held this morning. Yid a, Mark, how
do we go?

Speaker 5 (42:45):
Gooday?

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Here we go and yet now we're good today? Thanks
that a beautiful day in South Chago. We had a
smaller yard until they could be the last week, but
what was then sold really well getting into it today.
We had the prime names three hundred and three hundred
and thirty dollars through fifty to two eighty, and the
smaller ones are one fifty to one eighty. We had
a small selection of spring lands and today they sold

(43:07):
really well at two hundred and twenty to two hundred
and forty. Very good lambs indeed.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
And to the years.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
The prime years are largely we used through twenty to
three fifty, medium US one fifty to one eighty, and
the lot of us were seventy to one hundred and ten,
and just a small pin of rams feats fifty to
eighty dollars. It was a great, great week again in
the south with the heat, and for the sun on
the lamb's backs, giving them bouncing around and growing Evran's

(43:33):
and joyed being out of the sun and working in it,
and getting up to date with the trick that works.
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