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September 15, 2023 54 mins
THE BIG INTERVIEW - DL Hughley Talks Donald Trump Indictment, Alabama Brawl, Hurricane Hilary, & Young Thug
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Welcome to another episode of The BigThe Big Interview Podcast. I haven't seen
this many white dudes getting dieted bythe Rico Acts as good fellows. Yea,
a man, hey man. Theyhitting in with the Rico Georgia.
It was a lot of crime inthe eighties right at the end of so
they wanted business. So the statelegislator wrote these Rico Acts to arrest young

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black people, to make it easierto charge and to imprison young black men.
And then they got old white ones. Yeah, and you're at young
thug. And Donald Trump got thesame charge these white people in cuff of
being in jail like these are theseventy seventy eight year o white men,
right, big boy, neighborhood peoplein the neighborhood, Ladies and gentlemen.
Measurely to see this man back inthe neighborhood, do hugily. Welcome back

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to the neighborhood, brothers. Imissed a hurry quake. Oh my god,
man, Yeah, so were youout of town traveling during hurry quits?
I was, I was. Iwas in Orlando and then I had
to go to Says golf tournament andCabo. Yes. Wait, so what
did Mexico look like? Because Iknow nothing. O Mexico look great?
I heard that. You know what, you know, America is gonna capitalize
because flights. My wife flew into meet me and it was one hundred

(01:07):
dollars lucas three hundred for the firstclass. I mean, damn, she
said, and coach and upgrade youdid. Yeah, you're saying, we
gotta gotta ride that way, buta man, Yeah, damn. I
should have traveled during disasters. Igotta do. Hey, man, I
remember when the pandemic was going down, they had flights to base that you
can hold on to. That's it. Yeah, I'm waiting for the next

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one. Don't worry, it's coming. Yeah. Remember doing the pending when
outside was closed, like outside wasclosed. You can't like white people closed
the beach. Yeah, man,amen, let me tell you a deal.
When I knew that thing was gettingserious. Remember I said it in
the neighborhood, I say, man, if they closed down Disneyland, man,

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it's serious. They closed down parks, beaches, many people trying to
surf. Yeah, manmber close downoutside outside, white people like outside is
closed. Don't go outside, man, you can only go outside to work.
And go grocery, yeah, man, and wipe all that down.
And the only man outside was closed. Church was closed. The liquor store
was over, hey man. Andthat's what they said. They said they

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drinking. Man, Come on now, everything went up. We got fat
and drunk. You can zoom Jesus, but not Jack Daniel. Yes,
you can praise the Lord. Youcan't go to church. Read and I
know the church. You ain't gonnahead you get a fifth. I know
that ain't gonna happen, hey man. So the hurried quake we were out
here, man, And of coursewhen they talk about all California, we
haven't seen anything like this in LosAngeles. Man, I was like,

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okay, I'm not scared. Letme get prepared, right. I went
to I still got my white cakekid, I got my Killer Bee Sperry,
I got all that a man,and that was one of them things.
Due. My wife was like,do you think they're going to such
a side. I said, well, you know what, let me just
go by just some meat for liketwo days, you know. So I
went to the store and the samething. Man, I saw, like,

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okay, they're taking the water likehere we are again. It wasn't
ask crazy it. The thing aboutit is nobody believes anything. Nobody believes
then we're talking on the way up, nobody believes anything. All they just
exaggerated. Then when it happens,everybody freaks out. Nobody told me,
Yeah, I remember doing hurricane andtreated nobody left right, man, you
know, and God sent you Dopplerradar. You didn't get that. Like,

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but I think we just have thisthing where we think everybody's playing at
and I think now it's even moreso because either we hit a panic switch
and we do too much. Idon't know what the I don't want to
know what the medium may or youdo nothing at all. Right, But
I went I made sure. Iwas like, okay, let me make
sure it's just the case we haveour electricity go all right. They make
sure we got the batteries and thecalibas with me if our electricity go off,

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something going horribly wrong. I rememberwhen it was fires in Calibrass.
They have fire trucks on my streets. Man, Man, I gotta live
with the whites many doing Oh yeahyeah, yeah. People started do you
remember they started they hiring uh outsideprivate fire trucks. Yeah, yeah,
I was like, I was like, man to the kardash you see over
here they're not playing. So it'sjust it's a whole different thing. I

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remember, like and now, likeour COVID experience, like people ready for
we read for these kids go backto school. We don't care if they
got the vaccination or not. Likeour parents wouldn't let us stay home for
a year. This is a pandemic. Will put on two T shirts,
drink some seven up yeah, takenthat yeah, and go to school.

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But all the people that had,like now everybody got like all these people
what they weird? Like I rememberall the celebrities. I'm not gonna take
the vaccs, remember Wendy Williams AndI ain't gonna take the vaccine. You're
about you're about to be cocaine.I called it man metaphor advice from a
cranky you'll trust merk, but trustman man like bus stop here, no,

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no, no, and some thingsI just kill like come on now,
it's like I'll trust people like noweverybody got a cousin more than the
experts because he read about it onthe internet and everybody just him. Ay
man, what about when the pandemicwas going down. You had everybody that

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worked for either like the CIA.I have somebody to work for us,
for the government. Somebody worked forwhat was what's the other thing, the
CDC. My cousin worked at thesea. Yeah, your cousin sweep the
floors at the season. Now,the vaccine was made out of Fabuloso,
and black people love flo You gottaget the purple copy. They don't even

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call him by fragers his color,Like I like that yellow. You gotta
get the purple with Fabuloso and koolAi. Yeah, you're gonna give them
boil Fabuloso on the stove to makeyour house smell good. Risk the poduct.
I'm so tired of you. Idon't know if the hell amen,
you get a whole gallon man,seventh cent and all this stuff that's going

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on, man, like uh,like I saw that Montgomery, Alabama thing,
like, oh my gosh, manand white people going I didn't know
because swill yeah yeah, man,Hey, bro, let me tell you
when I first saw that deal,when I saw the Montgomery bray, I
saw that and I didn't know,Like my boy Fuzzy sent it to me,
and I didn't know how early hesent it to me. I thought
it was just like something I didn'tsee it, and then it just started

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to take off when I saw abrother in the water. Yeah. Now,
for one, I've been knowing howto swim my whole life too,
but I don't know how to swimto a fight because if I'm swimming,
bro, as soon as I getto the water, I got a rest.
Oh yeah yeah yeah. They can'tdo it all the one day.
Yeah, we just swim today,fight tomorrow. Yeah man, this like
all okay, I did the swim. Ye look I'm bad. Now pull

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myself. It's a swim, pullyourself out the water. But that's a
three day Oh yeah at all.I'd be exhausted when my man take his
hat off and through the air.But the next day, white break rooms
all over because of white people,y'all. Ain't no chairs in here,
everybody. Hell yeah, it wasbeanbags in every break even triple A party.
Ranch was like, nah, youain't getting these white chairs none.
None of the weddings, nothing likethat man Alabama. Then when they had

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the little girl, Carly Russell saidshe was a kidnapped. Yeah, oh
my god, And I was like, come on, a baby ever you
saw a baby. She said itwas a white dude with orange hair.
So it was either Homie the clownor Donald Trump. And it couldn't have
been him because he was getting indicted. I'm sure, Amen. I remember
when she came out. What werethey calling it, Carly Small? Yeah,

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listen, she didn't count on thepolice. It was a multi juristictional
search they had. It was thepolice. There was in five minutes police
agency. If somebody don't know,just give him a quick backstory. That
was the girl that said she wasmissing, right, somebody kidnapped her and
they said she kidnapped her while shewas you know, she saw a baby
and then that hadding her from her. But the police got there in five
minutes. They had a multi jurisdictionalsearch. The Secret Service got her,

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you know, her Internet searches andfind out she was watching take it.
But they got her in there.It hasn't been how many white woman,
white people looking for a black womanin the South since Hairy tub Men.
Amen. And the thing about it, I was like, oh, this
is another one that's gonna make itlook crazy. Man, it's gonna and
you know what's so sad about itwas also how the family had to ff

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around and play like she was kiddingafter it. But everybody, you gotta
believe them, because scrange things happen. Yeah, but as soon as she
came walking. First off, youdon't get kidding at with video and snacks.
Nobody do that. Nobody do that, right, nobody do that.
But I'm like, I see allthis stuff now, I haven't seen this
many white dudes getting dieted by theRico acts as good fellows. A man,

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hey man, they hitting them withthe rico and Georgia got time.
You know, Georgia did Georgia.It was a lot of crime in the
eighties right at the end of sothey wanted business. So the state legislator
wrote these Rico Acts to arrest youngblack people, to make it easier to
charge and to imprison young black man. And then they got old white ones

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and you're at young thug and DonaldTrump got the same charge. Tell me
a man, That's what I toldhim, And they said they're gonna prosecute
him like like like fear. Youknow what it is. It was.
It was a conspiracy. They don'tThis is what people don't understand. Laws
are for poor people. Loopholes offor rich people. Wow, laws,
Oh yeah, laws, but theway to get out of a lot of

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loop loopholes for rich people. Andthis time you ain't got one. Damn
laws of laws of for poor people, loopholes of for rich people. Like
I'm playing Orange County, right,and you could tell the difference when I
crossed the county line. My cardtip to the right. I bought a
maga had after you know, maybehe was, But it's it's so funny

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to see these people what was meantfor good? You know? They they
wrote these laws, and they wrotethem expansive so that it could just ensnare
the had teachers that went to jailford young thugging and went to jail ford?
You know, so they've they've theyprosecuted this very kind of scenario twelve
times. But these white people ain'tcuff of being in jail like these are

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the seventy seventy eight year o whiteman, right, do you think that's
gonna happen? Dal Let me tellyou, I don't know. Nobody got
ninety one charges and nothing happened,right ninety one ninety one, Like if
you called a piece of that,you wouldn't be sitting here now and man,
and I'm tell you something. Thisis the thing that was funny.
You know, we know dudes,they get they taxed him, the DA

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overcharged them. This time. Theydidn't charge him with anything that they got.
They if they would have overcharged them, be bad. But everything they
got on him they got there becauseusually you see somebody get caught up and
they'd be like, man, theyjust threw everything down there and see what
sticks everything? This is stick everythingthey got. Somebody told damn every did
you see to do yesterday? Thathad a Trump lawyer and then he turned

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got his own lawyer and then herechanged his story. They given time.
You know what you can go forthat. You can you can go to
jail for a long time for that. But stilling the country secrets and you
know, and then and then tryingto then trying to arrest and then trying
to erase video making man, comeon, yeah, you feel it,
you get it. And it's alwaysthe gardeners and the you know, there's

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the two black people get caught upin the rego act nah for oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, it's always toodumb, always yeah, it's all
don't believe COVID is real, Likethis white dude is telling the truth.
Yea man got caught up. Andthe thing about black people, they don't
know how to They don't they don'tknow enough information to tell up. If

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you get caught, you got tohave somebody to tell up on right right,
They running campaigns in Georgia. Youcan't even tell the nobody except to
do next to you. Damn yeah, you don't get sitted. They get
you, yeah, because you gottapull somebody down. No, you don't
know nobody. Yeah, they knowhow to keep you out. You just

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know the dude. You don't evenknow all the words. Even when they
because in the headline was like Kanye'sformer manager. Even Kanye was like,
damn yea, yeah, but theydon't know. They're always every they use
they use us for like fluff,but they don't know. You gotta be
a Mark Meadows or the lawyer orbecause you gotta be in the room with

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him. The dude was in theroom with him. They was just having
to get a phone called Trump saygoing down and go to this lady house
and threatening, Yeah, well Iain't gonna tell yeah man on video,
Yeah you're gonna tail I'm talking aboutanything from like twenty fifteen. You should
have been aware of walking into aroom with video. You know, things
have been been video taped for years, bro, Like everything is recorded now.

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It's two things you can be sure. Video and some white dude saw
it. Always the way They alwayssomewhere. Remember that dude Scott Peterson and
threw his wife the middle ocean andthe white dude fishing going. I saw
they always upwhere Yeah, hell yeahthey remember. Rodney King is always a
Winneso. Rodney King beating holiday wasone in the morning with a like a

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now seven came on. Now yeah, man, always just happen to have
You best believe it's gonna be video. And a white dude who's just happen
to see it, and he'll he'llbe looking back at the there's the crime
right there. They were shooting thatkid's birthday party right behind it. I
saw him dump a body in theocean. God always yeah, they will

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always see Hey, man, doyou think that Trump can can run?
Because let me tell you, likea supporter, I can see them saying,
yeah, it is a witch hunt. Look how they're trying to do
them. Look at you know,no no, two things can be true.
Yes, it is politically motivated,but you did it right, Okay,
yeah it is no two things getsnot like they can come snatch me.
I've known, I've known, dudethat the police were after and they

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were after him, but they didit right. Yeah, yeah, you
made the video. The thing thatthe only reason we're having this argument is
because Trump thought he could run andnot be present and they stopped the investigation.
They didn't stop. He did everythingthat they said. He did everything.
You heard the phone call. That'syou heard him tell But the constitution

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of the Constitution of fourtheenth Amendment,he's not. He he committed treats basically
treats it. He tried to overthrowthe government right now, how you you
couldn't get it. If you gotninety one fellows at a rape charge,
you couldn't get a job at WhiteCastle, damn the White House. Yeah,
that's real. Nobody could do anythinghe did. You could. Nobody

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that works in here right now couldhave a man of that. I was
about to say, you couldn't havea fraction. You couldn't have a fraction.
I'm just you know, it tookto me like it's just now all
the stuff they doing, like Arkansasis banning black history, right, but
Arkansas is also making it child laborlaws younger. So now so now you

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or fourteen year old can work wherethey weren't supposed to. Arkansas is doing
exactly what slavery was all about.Slavery was about removing history, means that
it never happened and we get achance to repeat it. Who do you
think it's gonna work. If it'sfourteen year old, it's gonna be black
and brown people, and they're gonnabe then. The reason that those laws
existed because people want it. Ain'tright to have these kids in these harsh

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conditions. And the only reason tohave a fourteen year old working ain't gonna
be here, gonna be working ona kiosk getting them all right, He's
gonna be working in a very dangerouseither meat plant or he's gonna be working
in the field somewhere dangerous. Yeah, and he's not going to school having
a job. And so so thisis on purpose when they're trying to control
it, like this abortion issue.Listen, now, the Supreme Court has

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overturned Row versus Way gay marriage conception, and they want to go after that,
I'm inside of me, like,what does how I celebrate my anniversary?
Got to do it? It is? I mean, I don't know,
I don't know where you're from,but you can't get break it that
way. But and then they said, like if you live in the rest

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state, you can't even talk dirtyto your woman to like whose is the
girl? It's the state legislature rightnow, hey man, And you know
it's your trip about that deal.It's seeing people are fine with it.
I don't what they must not bebecause look at how many elections they've lost
because of it. Yeah, Ihear you. So I think that the
narrative is no one wants somebody.I was born March sixth, nineteen sixty

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four. When I was born,the affirmative action, it just happened.
And then early the seventies, uh, then there was real versus way right,
so affirmative action and the woman hadtied me over their body. My
granddaughter will be born in a week, my second one. She'll have less
rights than I was born with wow, So that she'll literally have less rights

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than her grandfather's borrow as she livesin Georgia. Oh wow, So you
can't tell me that it does whenI don't want necessarily like I'm not four
or against abortion. When I'm againstis telling people who are grown what to
do with their bodies. But ifyou don't, I don't want you to
learn your history. It used tobe a time when black people couldn't learn,

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when slaves couldn't learn. Now blackpeople can't learn about slaves. That's
on purpose, that's not an accident. And so it is because it isn't
that you want to It is thatyou want to replicate what happened before if
you if you teast it now,what they say, the slavery had benefits
like slave had. So it waslike it was like a four hundred year
internship that was unpaid. Right,like man, the thought that do you

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know that woodworking metal working? Thereare three hundred thousand year old digs where
in Africa where they learned they dugup rudimentary woodworks weapons. They knew how
to do that before they got here. Right. The white people think they
teach you everything, but they knewhow to do that before they got You
didn't have to hit me. Youjust tell me what you want. That's

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all. But it's it's but it'sthe best time for comedy right now,
really, And why so because Ithink the steakes are so high, and
I think I just have always lovedthese kind of vanished points. It's always
like when everybody was talking about likeblack people ain't gonna paid two hundred fifty
thous to go twelve thousand look forthe Titanic. Yeah, man, if

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we want to, if we wantto adventure, we just try to get
an appropriate home appraisal. Yeah.Man, Hey dude, that was they
paid for death. Listen, it'seasier to find five billionaires in the middle
of Pacific than two black families gotapproved by Bank of americanhol I bet that

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that is not having we got one. We still got one. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, but I thinkthis when the stakes are high, it's
just the funniest. Hey, man, have you do you feel you with
your money? Have you done anythingcrazy that you wouldn't have done when you
were broken? Yeah, but butyou definite pay for my like pay for

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my daughter's grand school. I wouldn'thave done that. No, No,
I pretty much. Nah, Idid everything I want. I mean I
was older when I started getting money. Oh yeah, was like one of
these young dudes I was married,had kids. I got married at twenty
one. So oh wow, soI've been you know, it took a
while to get like this. Mywife used to shop at Target till about

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twenty years ago. I heard.So it wasn't no, it wasn't no.
Man, I just got a nicecar, Like I really like why
I went, Damn, that's anice car. Just now. Damn I
heard that. You know a man. So what do you think we're going
into with this? Uh? Withthis year of we're about to see politics
change. Yeah, we're about tosee another running for the white thing.
That's funny to me. So who'sin a place you did all this?

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And then you tell me that Bidengot a crackhead, son, I got
a crackhead cutting. I mean,I understand crackheads, Yeah, I do.
I understand crackheads. What I don'tunderstand. And you I've known people
who came from good families with thechurch all the time, and somebody turned
out to be a crackhead. Theydid horrible things that buys shame to that

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family. Right, what I hadnever have is understood, and they're acting
like it's an equivalent like that allthe stuff he did is as bad as
biden Son being a crackhead. There'sno doubt that Hunter Biden is a crackhead.
But when is the last time you'veseen a white boy named Hunter in
jail? Right, got you?They don't go to jail, so stop

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it. He's getting the same privilegis that any white dude of means would
get, and that none of themgo to jail. Right, No Hunters,
no bills, ain't no bills.Yeah, no skips. Remember the
kid killed all those five people inTexas and they said he was suffering from
affluent by like, man, he'stoo rich, So stoping, like yes,

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so stop. He ain't going tojail because they don't go to jail
when they do that. They don'tgo to jail. When they're on drugs,
they don't go. It was akid that raped somebody at stand.
He didn't go to jail. Yeah, man, Yeah, if you're you,
you show me a hunter in jail, and it better be a bounty
hunter. Our grape street ain't knowa man who's coming in. Who's coming

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in now though Democratic side Republican side, it ain't hard for me. It's
not hard, but I you know, to me, it's just there there
are people. The only rights thatsome people want you to have, the
only unassailable right is guns. Theydon't want women to be able to decide
what they want to do with theirbody. They don't want people to decide
what kind of history they can have. They don't want people who can be

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able to marry and marry and lovewho they want to. The only freedom
you can actually have that they willfight you to the death for is a
gun. That's all why. Andit's easier to buy guns in American than
Sueta fit right, you buy twopacks of Suda f you ain't nobody got
no code, and then good luckon some of the stories because they got
it locked off. They try tobuy two packs of sud anywhere in this

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state, and they will have arecord if you trying to do it somewhere
else. Really though, so soto me, it's not even hard.
I don't have to agree with people. It's just an expanse of you.
I believe that people should be ableto love who they love, dig who
they want to dig, have asmany babies or not as they want to.
I don't that's that's not my thing. But I think when you live

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in a society. Don't tell mewe're free society when a white guy in
Florida and a white woman in Arkansascan tell me exactly what history I can
learn. And she had this woman, Uh, Sarah Hugabee got people going
to pick books up from school dishesto say they would teach black history anyway.
Look at um, I'm not lyingto you, going to pick them
up. That's the So those schoolson the underground railroad. What it's so

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important about our history that is worthyou that you've made a law and have
empowered people with arrest powers to seizebooks. What is about our history?
If you're worried about a black history, if you're scared of black histores because
you're worried about a white future.M that's why you're not worried about bullets.
And you're not running huh okay,I'm you saw it happened Cornell West

(23:37):
City was running the pupils work likewait, hold on, man, Like
what I'll pay your student lower?You didn't pay your towels at the end
of your campaign? Oh my god? Yeah man, yeah, I can
definitely point front from a distance,right, you know what I'm saying.

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Yeah, but you know it's crazy, man, is We're starting to see
politics now dale that we would havenever gotten away with when even when Trump
did grab a body, the pI was like, oh that's it,
this is over. You know whatI'm saying, Like like Barack Obama had
to be that was so. Allhe did was allowed in the freedom to

(24:22):
be exactly who they are. That'sall he did. The economy wasn't better,
the world didn't run better. Theyjust want to be free to do
like, to do exactly what theywant to do. He's a dummy.
He's a dummy. Eighty four peopleare testifying against him. Not one is
somebody he didn't hire, not one, not one, any of the democratics.

(24:44):
Ain't no conspiracy. Everybody that's testifiedagainst him either he hired or somebody
he hired hired. Everybody who's testingfined against him, voted for him and
wanted him to win. Everybody,everybody, So stop telling me about conspiracy.
They want to shape the world.They want to shape the way they
want to shape it, and theonly thing stand them in the way is
people that have dissenting opinion. That'sall, damn, that's all we can

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We can argue about my ideology andyour ideology. But the truth of the
matter is, how does taking myhistory make your life better? How does
making a woman dress like a womandress like a man make your life better?
How does women not being able tohave a time to mail of their
body make your life better? Andwe are talking about jobs or the environment,
we're talking about you want to controlthings. One of the things that
they're talking about in these debates.What made it better for the average person?

(25:34):
What makes it better? How doesme not learn about Harry Tubman do
anything for gas prices, home prices, or banks or schools? Right,
it is to control things. Nameme one thing they're talking about doing that.
It's even up for debate in termsof making society better for everybody.

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How does taking my history away fromme telling me what I can learn?
How telling this one and how manybabies she can have that she has to
have. How does telling America theycan't have migaret workers? How does that
make America better? It makes itwider, It doesn't make it better.
And that's the goal. Literally,I'm not even trying to be funny.
Name me one thing they're running onthat you go, well, I can

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get behind that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's well, I don't
want my children learning about drag queen, but you don't mind your children getting
shot in school? Yeah, RuPaul, ain't got a damn thing on a
ruger. It ain't. You wouldrather so so, so, name me
one thing that they're saying that youcan agree with as a society that makes

(26:40):
your life better in an un just, in an innocuous way. What what
what do they say that if it'sabout all of it's about sixty sixty,
I guess they're doing a thing.And seventy seven percent of people voting in
the Republican primary want to stop woke? Yeah, man, how how does
that make your life better? Heyman? Do you remember when woke meant

(27:03):
something to us? Yes? Man, woke with it, Like it's crazy
what woke mean? Now? It'slike everything, they take everything, and
like, I'm not worried about AI. Artificial intelligence is not as bad as
natural stupidity. What's what are youscared of a dumb dude? Of a
dumb dude who write laws or brilliantman who write apps. I'll take it's

(27:26):
a gentle ball, right. Naturalstupidity is wage works. You gotta be
brilliant to write apps. You canbe dumb and right at all. Dumb
people want to ban books. Dumbpeople want to ban artificial intelligence at all.
All artificial intelligence is is somebody hasan idea that that thing can that

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entity can replicate it over and overagain, so it doesn't need you anymore.
That's white people, A man,you concerned with artificial intelligence, You're
not AI at all. I thinkit can't be anywhere. It's garbage in,
garbage out. It can only bewhat people put in, right,
It's not an entity. Now ifthe if the system is flawed from the

(28:12):
beginning, it'll be flawed from thebeginning. But it can't. It doesn't
function on its own. It is. It is. What it ever is
put in is what it will putout. It'll it'll if there's a flaw
in the mechanism, then it'll bea flaw later on. But the only
way forward is is us having apart in how this these things are developed,

(28:34):
right, right, because it couldbe I always say, man,
it could be a gift and acurse. I'm like, it's everything is
yeah, and it's here and it'snot going anywhere, right, And sometimes
we do pay, We pay dearlyfor the convenience too. Yeah yeah,
so yeah, everything everything is there'salmost nothing that used to happen to look,

(28:56):
remember Skypager? How long that?Laughs? Remember next tale? Oh
yeah man, remember Tripp cutting thattechnology? Right? Yeah? Remember VCRs?
Yeah man, right, and it'sgone. Pagers you couldn't live with
you thought you couldn't live without it, exactly, And it was so convenient

(29:17):
for you. Pages. It usedto be, dude, with pages shops
all over the country. Yeah.Man, can you imagine if you built
your foundation, your family on yourpages shops? Man, I got me
a video depot and a Blockbuster andyou had to go down there and pay
it. Remember that? Yeah man, yeah, that cut your page over?
Yeah man? How long did itlast? But it was a whole
industry build on it. Right,So that's technology so so and it always

(29:44):
it's always a gifted. It wasa gift to you. Remember when you
couldn't even make phone calls past acertain time of night because it was cost
too much. Oh yeah, yeah, when you remember, Yeah that used
to happen. How long ago wasthat? Remember they had rollover minutes?
That wasn't that long ago. Sotechnology always doing a DL do you remember
even being a traveling comedian. Doyou remember checking out of a hotel and

(30:07):
having to pay your phone bill exactlyyou have to put down for incidental Yeah,
man, remember having a phone atyour house? Oh yeah, very
much. So don't know if Igot a phone. Yeah, this is
this is an old school I stillgot aol, right man. As soon
as somebody be like, yeah,get at me right because I even look
Yahoo, yeah hit me on.It moves on so fast, man.

(30:34):
And that's that's technology and society islike that. Look at a year ago,
Lizzo was the thing, and nowthat the very as high as they
took her is as low as Andit's all based on someone saying she did
something. Ain't nobody proved nothing.Somebody's for the public prove that Tory shot

(30:55):
Megan. But that ain't good enough. You got you know that happened,
right, got bloody footprints and everything. But but but no, but not
Lizzle that we'll just believe that wegot proof Trump did this, but we
won't believe that. Right, wedo what we want to do. So
to me, it's it's I'm notworried about anything with intelligence in it at
all. It's dumb people that ranthe country for so long. I've had

(31:21):
enough. Hey man, do youfeel like even with your privacy now everything
is being videoed? You know?It's times when they want to shut you
your car down. I still don'tknow when they say, oh, your
peatures are in the cloud, Idon't know what that is. I just
got back from right so I havethat. What is that global entry?

(31:41):
Yeah? You walk up you you, it makes you stand right there,
it flashes the green light. Youwalk past the age and go, hey
Dale, I ain't know already.Yeah, man, it's gonna be retinal
scan. Even even my clear they'dbe like, all right, look here,
And I'm like, you know,and you think convenience. That's another
thing. You think convenience. Lookat you. When's the last time you

(32:02):
walked around with a bunch of money? I don't when's the last time you
walk on credit cards? All onyour phone? Right? When did that
happen? Right? So that's technology, and your life is infinitely better.
So if something happens that it's notas good as that. I have to
take that. But in terms ofstupid people, stupid people has too much.
But even the electoral college, howdoes how does Nebraska or South Dakota

(32:27):
or North Kota have as much senatorialpower as California or Texas. Yeah,
even in a real numbers game,bro, it's more people. One out
of every nine, one of everynine Americans lives in southern California, but
we get have we don't have thesenatorial representation of South Dakota. Yeah,
it's not even as big as Oxnar. So I'm tired of dumb people having

(32:50):
to say, so where do wego? I'm I'm tired of like,
I'm tired like artificial intenan just can'tbe as bad as Miss McConnell being on
Margery Taylor Green being on Intelligence Committee. I'm so tired of stop people cutting
checks. And George Bush was adummy, right, Look at all the

(33:15):
damaged dumb people done. The onlytime a really intelligent guy messed up the
world was Professor X, and heain't real man. Do you think there
should be billionaires in this world likethe Elon Musk who can think Twitter and
kind of manipulate it to I thinkthat almost every time there's a bill there

(33:36):
the whole thing about passing the camel, passing a rich man passed through the
Cam, I have a needle inthe sea. I think there's so many
things that people will do to beobscenely wealthy that you can't be I don't
think a decent human being and justbe like if you sold records or something
like, Okay, I get it. But if all you did was sell

(33:57):
this product and you keep getting infinitelywealthy and wealthy wealthare and then lobbying people
so you can be wealthier at acertain point, I don't think you'd be
a dcent. How do you feelabout Amazon? Well, I should ask
because they parked in from my houseright now. But even that, do
you remember waiting six to eight weeksfor a delivery man? Now you see

(34:22):
two days, You're like, ohman, two days. Do you remember
how long it took to buy acar? Now you could go to a
vending machine and get a car.Yeah, man, but all of these
things there are there are losses tothese things. But what people would have
you do is some parts of America, like America is like either the Flintstones

(34:43):
or the Jets. I was inSan Francisco, those Waymo cars or those
car man they drive around by themselves. Yeah yeah, man, So imagine
a country they still has has carsto drive by themselves. They don't have
a driver. And then places inthe country where they want to go back
to manufacturing and coal mining. Butthe places where they want to go back

(35:06):
to manufacturing coal mining got just asmany votes as the places with That's America.
It's the flint stones and the justicesand the flintstones are winning. Got
you, got you. It's allthe progression. Everything that you need is
happening or growing in in places wherepeople live. The people who who live

(35:27):
in places where they don't live aremad, so all they want to do
is destroy stuff. That's all theywant to do is want people to pay
for what it is they're not getting. They they think that you can drag
America back to being what they wantedto be. Right if you if you
see a poor the worst you shoulddo if you're a white guy is be

(35:47):
a manager at a retail store.That's the worst you should do. When
I see a homeless white guy,I'm like, you wasted whiteness. You
should put it on eBay. Whatyou said you haven't even you man?
Almost new it's almost new, yeah, man, whiteness. Yeah, And

(36:12):
that's that beal, that's that whenyou see that best offer. Oh goodness,
I'm putting that in the basket down. I don't want that West Virginia
White with Oh my god. Deal, you got a lot on your mind,
bro, I do man, Ican't wait to do it. Man.
Yeah. Man, So, sowhat is the comedy looking like for
you right now? You know I'mout everywhere? Yeah, I know,
bro, so so and I'm I'mI looked like I'm doing your thing.

(36:36):
I think, oh yeah, inSeptember. Oh no, you're doing You're
doing December December. Yeah, Idon't know what that means, right,
yeah, yeah, but we're bethere. Yeah, I'm Casino. I'm
over here. Not the wrong spot. Man. I should have known,
man when I saw last was exitafter that? Just keep going on debates?

(37:00):
Yeah, man, yeah, man, I can't. I love it.
Yeah, I love it, thestakes and high I love the people.
Ad when when we were going throughthe pandemic, man, and comedy
like stopped it because you say,you know, they stopped us from going
outside. What was that like foryou with someone that's usually you know,
Thursday to Sunday. Easy. Well, I'll tell you how it. How
it was. I went doing aheat of COVID when it was still going

(37:22):
and passed out on stage. Sothat's how bad I'm a risk dying.
Did you pass out from COVID?What was that like? Did you feel
that coming on deal? I didn'tknow, that's what you said, everybody,
somebody to always see it. Yeah, I didn't know I had COVID,
but I did know when I wasgoing on stage. I did know

(37:43):
that I was going to pass out, So I didn't know what it was.
I was like, but maybe I'llget up there and I'll stay.
Has always been mine. But eversince then, ever since then, ever
since I passed out, I havethe worst vertigo once or twice a month,
really the worst, the worst,like I gotta take the I don't
even make You never had vertico before, ever had it before? It never?

(38:05):
What does it feel like like therooms sitting Oh gosh, like like
if I moved too fast, amdriving in turn? It's a rap?
And you never had that before?Ever had that before? May never,
but I was until you had KOVIDuntil and it's it's happening. When people
say, oh, it's a hoax, what's a million people were gone dead?

(38:27):
Right where they go? Right?Look at all the black orphans in
the world. Yeah, look,look how many like it was. It's
how many people are here they aren'there that were yeah, man, like
Louis last his grandmother And is thata hoax? Right? I know?
So many people to die because soto me that I just refused to believe

(38:52):
that. We can't see to dumbpeople make that happen. A dumb dude
told you there was nothing wrong,or you could take bleach you. We
listened to dummies, but not smartpeople, right right, My brother in
law, I ain't worked, youknow, cousins ain't worked ever, but
they know how to fix Elderberry.You just get your music, yeah man,

(39:13):
yeah, man, yeah, andyou watch people die. Things have
happened to you because like literally,but after COVID it was months when I
had it vertigo straight like it wasnever anything every day for nine months I
had it all day. Then Igot better. So now it's reduced to
maybe two three times a month,really a couple of days. Did you

(39:35):
get the vaccine? But was itafter the vast I got the pass sine,
It got better, It got better. But now it's did you have
a vaccine when you passed out?Because I know people. I got.
Y'all got the punk ass COVID,I got the OG one, I got
the one. Maybe I got thethey didn't have it't had no letter,
no B, no D, justCOVID. Yeah, yeah, I got
coronavirus. Yeah the one. Man. When I got it, it was

(39:59):
like Dave Chappelle was like, yeah, I was talking about out and then
I got it and I felt dirty. Like when I got it, I
felt like I was like one ofthe first people that we knew that got
it, and man, it wasa whole different world. Bro, I
didn't get hella sick, but man, I felt like I might as well
have had leprosy. But you gotBut imagine that. But imagine everybody.

(40:19):
When I got back to the hotel, the Thompson Hotel, Oh yeah,
because you're seeing me out the hotel. No airlines would fly me. The
only reason I got home is becausethey from said the entertainer. Chris Spencer,
George Lopez, Anthony Anson, andDon Cheeta were on this thing called
the Thread. Had to threaten aprivate company to take me home. And

(40:42):
it was plastic everywhere. It's plasticwhen I got when I got off,
so they knew dale hugely passed outhere. Yeah. The hotel was like,
oh, you gotta get out.I called the room. Derek Roblaz
is my Mexican security, the onewho let me fall in bump that dude.
They called the room and said youhad Miss Hugley has to go,

(41:06):
which is illegal. But I leftbecause everybody saw me walking from the hospital
through the thing. I felt likewhen we were moving out your way,
man, you were black vido whatI did that was stupid. Then I'm
glad I did. But I said, I gotta tell people I don't want
I was at this club and Idon't want. I didn't want to and
they were like, tell him whenyou get home. But I'm like,

(41:27):
nah, I better do it now. So my dumb told everybody an announcement.
Everybody. They put me out theroom. They wouldn't fly me.
I get home. My wife gotplastic everywhere, sliding food out of the
door. Remember I saw you walkingwith your dog and I pulled over there
like id And I was the prejudicegets my own because I already had it

(41:50):
man man. And the only person, my wife and the only person that
would bring food, John Sally,would come stand at the window and talk
to me and bring you vegan food. But it would and said his wife
Lorna and John Sally former NBA player, vegan and get guy. And you
say he'd come to the house talkto me through the window. Was on
the second floor, looking at throughthe second floor in there talking about the

(42:14):
water. You know what it was? The water. He was stuck about
it. But the one who wouldbring me food, said the entertainment's wife
Laura, and his Lorna and hisdaughter and said would bring me food every
day. Was it a bad COVID? I didn't feel bad, but I
just was dizzy all the time.So I just was like, is this
ever gonna end? Right? Yeah, and especially we didn't know what it

(42:34):
was bro as far as like evenwith the world shutting down, we didn't
know how long we were gonna beshut down. We didn't know how long
we're gonna have to white groceries.And yeah, and when you got it
early, man, people didn't wantto tell like I passed. I got
out my trainer. This is howmessed up it was. My trainer had
showed people my doctor's letter what shewasn't supposed to do because his his other

(42:57):
clients like you trained him. Sothe CLU Calabasas May I had to show
them a letter, which was illegalfor them to do because no members would
come in. It was like,literally I was a leper. The first
person that ever touched me or cameinto my house after it was over was
sick. And it's damn no onewould touch me. And it was the
most eerie thing because everybody would justfreak out and pull away from me.

(43:20):
It was like being the first blackdude and nobody moving over in the morning.
Nobody would touch me. Nobody wouldtalk, did you feel a certain
way or you just like minutes ohwow? Like nobody would come, like,
wouldn't play golf with me, wouldn'tride a car with me, wouldn't
would see me and run. Itwas crazy, but I got everybody to

(43:42):
say, I got everybody the jobpicked. I got everybody my house six
so it was oh, you spreadit people. I closed comedy for three
months, all the clubs closed becauseme. Really how so I passed out
in any a comedy club, allthose a lot of those people got sick.

(44:02):
They shut comedy now, damn,So it was you that shut down
comedy. And what was the otherdude that shut down the NBA when he
when he did, like, yeah, it's not Colbert, he said,
Cobe, I'm thinking like the yeayeah yeah, so just y'all too,

(44:22):
Yeah, yeah, I shut itup. Damn they showed it. They
said they closed comedy because nobody couldtake there. Then when it came back,
they would have plexiglass shield. Yeah. Man, everywhere they only had
half the staff. Yeah, man, so you could have a half a
room. I would really stop sayingI shut down comedy though, yeah,

(44:43):
you know, because I would.I definitely be like, yeah, d
you put my money off of peoplelike that. Really, but everybody knew
if somebody's gonna pass out in COVIDwas gonna be me. Yeah, I'm
gonna go to work. Oh yeah, hell yeah, I'm gonna work like
man that you're lung hanging out puttingmy jacket. Did the radio show from
the hospital. I told you that. Yeah. I was like, and
can you cut this thing down?I gotta do this spot. They're like

(45:06):
wow, I said, can youit's me? She said, it's keeping
you breathing, right, We'll justshut it off. I got like,
let me just I's got a quickhurt trying of car ten seconds spot.
So you were hospitalized. I passedout in the afield, came home.

(45:30):
Oh wow, I got home Sunday. Monday, I passed out again.
I fell. Blood is going downmy face. My son runs in there
and it goes. I gotta callit. I said, you better not
call it ambulance. Then I'll neverbe able to work again. Yeah,
man, I said, man,I just I'll be all right. So
my wife, of course made him. My blood pressure was ninety six over

(45:52):
fifty something. The ambulance said,the fire department said, we gotta,
we need to take it. Iwouldn't go. Then I went to the
next day. Anthony Anderson got mein the UCLA and they did all kind
of tests and it was just Iwas so dehydrated from the virus, and
it was it was horrible. ButI was like, you, Ben,
I call these people again because I'llnever work again. That's what I was

(46:14):
thinking, right and especially at thattime. Man. Now in the rear
view mirror, we're like, okay, you know, you know, we
lost the line. We made itthrough some did it, you know?
But yeah, But when they diedwhen I was there from COVID, he
was twenty eight. How scary isthat? He was? I was,
so, I'm doing these spots andthis lady's taking iPad and wiping it off

(46:34):
with those wipes. Everybody had thosewipes. If you couldn't find one,
my wife had them. All youstill got so do we? So I
said, oh, they're giving outiPads laughing, joking, and she said
no, this is so this man, this kid could say goodbye to his
mother and father because nobody could goin through the room. Right. And
this kid was twenty seven twenty eight. I got there that Monday, he

(47:00):
coming to that Thursday, and itjust took a turn. He was gone,
Damn, did that scare you?Because wait a minute. Yeah,
when I had COVID the first time, right, and it was like no
one really had it. But Iwas like, what's coming? Because all
you when I had COVID DL,all you saw was the death ticker tape.
You saw bodies in the freezers inNew York all that. So to

(47:22):
me, I was like, what'scoming tomorrow, what's Happening's what's gonna happen
tomorrow? That that was my mainthing, bro. Every time I got
up or every time am I becauseI heard nothing but the worst. Yeah.
Man, I wrote a book andI was doing the book tour while
I was sick. I mean onceI was doing an interview and passed out

(47:45):
an interview. I was doing aninterview because I just didn't know, like
it was so bad. So nowyou know, you gotta stay hydrated,
you gotta eat small meals. It'sit's crazy. So now you got you
had to learn how to live withthis. Do you get nervous when you
say when you when you're driving,certain things can happen now because I love
but I'll show you. I takethese if I'll take this stuff called megazine,

(48:08):
and it'll work within twenty minutes,but the room will literally start spinning.
And never had it before, neverhad it, damn man, I
know. I remember I was talkingto this one nurse and she was like
yeah, she was like, Ihave heart problems now yep. And this
is in vaccine. This is justCOVID yep. Before it was way before.
Say again, the foggy brain wasanother one. Oh yeah, yeah,

(48:28):
I was like, what is it? Yeah? Yeah man, yea.
So it was so when you tellme artificial to let I'd rather have
them make it. I trust abrilliant dude who makes a mistake than a
than a stupid ill ill ill willperson. I heard that, y'all.
Stick around, y'all radios. Man, we got deal hugely in the neighborhood,
big boy neighborhood. Alrighty Gale Irvineimprov Man, you're doing what I

(48:49):
call the Kunta kinte ye your Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Two shows on
Friday, two shows on Saturday,and one show on Sunday. And you
work every week every week? Kid, what I'm gonna be home? Just
put me anywhere I gotta be.I'm having another granddaughter. Man. Yeah,

(49:12):
if you don't work around man,come on. Oh yeah, okay,
I about say if you don't work, you don't they don't eat.
But yeah, they don't eat Gucci, right yeah, man, I don't
think I think they'll eat. Allright, So so every weekend you do
like you're probably. I was Thursdayssomewhere shows, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

(49:34):
I'm er Mine, then I'm inRaleigh, then I'm in What does
your freaking flyer miles look like?Keep your mouths? I got like six
men on American whoa what do youdo with those miles. I don't nothing,
but they always go, you canupgrade. I'm like, I'm flying
with the cabin right, You're like, did you ever seen my writer contract?

(49:54):
Right? I was on a planeand they congratulations, this dude just
flew five me really and then peopleare like, oh, they don't care.
We're gonna get We're gonna land safely. Yeah, like, yeah,
do I celebrate you for flying fivehundred, for flying five million mouths?
You know what? I hate?Like. I was on the plane one

(50:15):
time and they're like, oh,there's a kid back in the twenty one
s and he has food allagy,peanut allergy. So I said that ain't
got nothing to do. It wasthe first class. I'm got to close
that curtain. Yeah, man,my, damn my, damn heated tell
you what, I make him closethat curtain. You know what, big,
I don't like that suffering and goneback. Man. I used I

(50:39):
used the tears from the coach prospersto rip my market. Have bred the
tears of coach pressers. I'm like, delicious, you think taheen is great.
Let me tell you, gold beastMan. Do you flying coach?
No? No, but you youdon't fly. But you'll fly southwest,

(51:02):
right. I have flown southwest probablythree times in fifteen years, really,
and it was cool. Man,Southwest is. But I like, I
like to be better than people,you know. Yeah. I like when
people go by being lioquing with allthat hope and I'm like, nah,
I can't help me here. Peopleare like, oh, these are nice

(51:24):
walking listed on this lady, becauseyou know how first class y'all probably don't
know, but I'm telling, Imean, but you know there's there's seats
like your space is your space?Right? So I got on the plane.
It's above your seat. I goton the plane and said, I'm

(51:45):
sorry too. You gonna check yourbag because there's no more room in first
class. And I said, well, that lady right there is in coach
and this is old white ladies.She had to take her bag and check
it in and check it at me. I like, if Martin Luther King
could see that, man, yeah, man, I bade her move that

(52:05):
bag. She I wouldn't even helpone. I was on the plane with
Bushwood Bill right fun to get aboy, little guy from to get the
boys. He was talking so badto his flight attended right so bad to
her. But then he had toput his bag in the overhead and if
you don't know Bushwood Bill, googlehim. He's he was a little person
rest in peace. And he kepttrying to put the bag up there and

(52:25):
staying on the seat because my minddrinks me. Man, I have never
laughed so hard because I had that. It was Condonal Airline and I he
talked bad to her and then heneeded help instinct karma. I'm a little
stand like, can you please getoff the arm rest? Please? And

(52:49):
he looking at me like, nah, you're gonna on this own. You
know what I'm saying. Oh,put your mask down, y'all like a
cranber. Take no, no,Margarita. What you say with the coach
tire? Oh man, you gottatry. Oh my god, you can.
You can hear, you can takesorrow, disappointment. You're a piece

(53:10):
of being. I work hard,man, I work hard. That dude
had almost made it. Have youtasted? You don't know what it is?
You don't know what it is glitterand all these beautiful stuff you've been
saying, all these facts. That'sgonna be the one thing if you're like,
oh, I can't believe this.Yeah, you know what but I'll

(53:31):
make him up as that curtain andI'll never hear him. I'm sorry I
didn't hear you the announcements of refreshmentsbeing and get him. Look at this
real utensils up here, like thisis ridiculous. Yel definitely want to thank
you for coming into the away man. Pleasure seeing you once again. Brother,
like man, thank you, myman, and Godwin, we will

(53:52):
see you soon. I'm gonna seeat the yahweh. Don't go to your
wrong venue, you know, pleasedon't go this instant here. Yeah,
I'm over here at the y'all.Wait, like where are you? Yeah,
big we at yard house tonight andlike but deal, thank you for
coming to the neighborhood. Always apleasure, man, I'll see you U.

(54:14):
I'll see you next month. Ina month after, I'm gonna start
putting you on a four week rotation. Man Dal hugely in the neighborhood,
y'all, big boy in the

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