THE BIG INTERVIEW - Kevin Gates (PT. 2) On Getting Shot, Depression, Kobe Bryant, Fitness, Albums, and Relationships
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Welcome to another episode of The Big, The Big Interview Podcast. I told
my Ted two Waters, I say, man, remember I told you,
I say, man, I don'tfeel like we should leave a house today.
We just need to stay inside.And she came right to the house.
I hate to even say this becausenigga, man, it would always
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be, but that's what happened.She came in the house and was like,
they say, Kobe just had ahelicopter crib. So you said we
shouldn't leave the house before before ithappened. They happened seven minutes from my
house. Like where's like it alwaysbe happening the meet like I saw Nipsey
Like, I don't say, man, he just won't clout, but you
could suck my if you feel likethat. Big Boys Neighborhood, You're Big
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Interview Ladies and Gentlemen, Part two, Kevin Gates in the Neighborhood. Man.
Hopefully y'all had a chance to watchpart one, and Kevin is one
of those people bro when he comeinto the neighborhood, keV, I can't
let you go. And it's crazy, man, no matter how long we
sit and talk today, no,I'm gonna feel like I didn't talk to
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you long enough. So let's getinto this part two with Kevin Gates in
the neighborhood, Big Boys Neighborhood.Hey man, you have a dream of
being not a celebrity, but fulfillingyour dream of being an artist and being
a better human being. Right,I wanted to. But when you think
about what you have, not notversus what you don't have, what's the
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best thing that I got being KevinGates And what's the worst thing about being
Kevin Gates? I got a family. That's the best. That's winning that
I told you that last time.Winning for me is having a family.
Winning for me. I ain't havingno means or females and like that just
be stressed out. Mm hmm,because I ain't going burk and who yeah,
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hello, I don't know who startedthis epidemic burking be at the mall
by yourself. With all due respect, I ain't trying to disrespect no woman.
I please don't take don't no womantake this disrespect. If you do
your mama. But like I wassaying, if you do for you,
but you got fake eyelashes, yougot fake hell, you got fake you
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got fake everything on your body.But you want a real like I worked
hard for these results. I suffered. I went through the fire adversity Bill's
character. I went through the firefor this. I only had surgery one
time on my leg when I gotshot knocked my bone of my leg because
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I ain't about to I wouldn't giveit up. God blessed it dead because
I ain't gonna give it up.But anyway, long story short, You're
gonna kill me anyway, so Imight as well fight for my life.
You're gonna kill me anyway. Soanyway, long story short, not get
I just that surgery for me sobad that I can't see myself willingly going
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through that again. I can't.So I worked hard for this, I
suffer for this, and I washonest with everybody I said. I became
so infatuated with being slim and havinga body. I used to take adderall
to go to the gym. Iused to take so much pre workout it
probably would have bust my heart.By the grace of God, I'm still
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here. Until I started just celebratingmy success and small increments and not comparing
myself to the people that I seeon the Instagram with the perfect baddies and
not my body that perfect early on? Was that for you when you say
the adderall working out? Was thatfor you? Or was that for image?
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Image? Because I wanted to bethe best of the best. I
wanted to beat it. And it'slike, nah, since I been on
the mushrooms, not the psychedelic mushrooms, but like the Lion's man to reach
it, the carter SEPs, theTurkey Taia Like, it's like the mushroom
blend pre workouts and stuff like thatbefore I go work out. It give
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me a better cognitive function. It'slike beat juice in the saffron, give
you that mental focus that you belooking for. It gives you all of
them things. And I just Ijust I'm thankful that I caught myself because
I was headed for destructure. Wereyou depressed? Yeah, some something that's
a cry for help. When yousee somebody going through the gym three four
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times a day, something not rightwith him, because something wouldn't write with
me. And as men, we'llgo to the gym and just kill ourselves
and hurt ourselves in the gym tokeep from hurting somebody else. It's a
lot of men that suff in silence. They come up to me, they
hug me in the gym, Theycry right there when they see me,
because I see you and see whatyou're going. When you say suffering silence,
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do you know how powerful that is? We do. It's a lot
of us that suff in silence,Like we suffer in silence to get the
things that we think we want.But everybody want what they don't want,
and we want what we don't needtoo. Yeah, we don't. We
don't really want those those things.We just think we want it. But
when you love what you have,you have everything you need. We was
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happy to just have a call.Tellis pulled up in this rolls rights on
the side of it. Now I'msuffering again. Hey man, did you
have people that were afraid? Notonly do you have to go through your
chain? He got this bad withit, But if he go to jail,
she gone right. But this womanright here, I go to jail
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man, the horse legs ain't neverbroke. She gonna run for me.
She gonna run for How do youfind that out though? And not not?
And I know the question sounds soeasy, I know, yeah,
but I got a simmer answer.Go ahead, the greatest test that anything
could stand. It's time. Justgive it time. It'll reveal itself.
Yeah, man, it'll reveal herself. I know a lot of I know
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a lot of bad. Hey,you ain't gonna hold on it if he
go to jail. You're not gonnakick the phone up. You're not gonna
do none of that. And Ihate to look at it like that.
But would you have with me whenI was broke? Do you have that?
Do lor? That's just telling meit's time for Yeah? Did you
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need a break? No saying I'mokay, all right, don't make it
up? All right, good togo. Hey man, did you and
do you have that when? BecauseI hear you speak of your queen quite
a bit, Drinka? Is thatis that the one that held you down?
My best friend? Like man,me and Drenk best friends. That
gonna be my best friend. Butshe got children too, beautiful children for
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me. So that's my best friend? All right? What is best friend
mean? I don't just want nowife. I don't want no wife.
I don't even like that title.That's some American I want. I want
my best friend because you know you'regonna honor your friend. Different your best
friend then you're gonna honor a wife. You know, a wife just seemed
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like a business deal, a business. Yeah, it seemed like a business
relationship. Happy wife, happy life, Like like you're gonna not need to
fuck off contingent upon if I'm keepingyou happy like that, don't that's not
I want a best friend. Iwanna I want to have a best friend
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to where if you my best friend, like we deare for each other,
I'm there for you emotionally. Youjust you have a deafinite family. I'm
gonna comfort you. Like, look, you know what, I ain't gonna
go to the gym today. Youknow I'm gonna do this, dude,
this boom brought you some flowers,you know. Just listen, small things
I could do to let you know. If you need anythink, I'm here.
Can your best friend be your wife? Can your wife be your best
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friend? My best friend could bemy partner. My bes friend could be
my partner. Either we grow togetheror we grow apart, because it's gonna
be times in everybody life where y'allgonna grow together, then y'all gonna grow
apart, and then y'all gonna growinto y'allselves, and then it reunite.
It might just go left and right, but guess what, it ain't a
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negative thing. We experienced a beautifulthing together and now we the journey must
go on. And my thing andthe reason why I did ask that keV
is because like my wife, Iconsider my wife my best friend. Win
it. Yeah, and I'm talkingabout man like I could be vulnerable.
You know what I'm saying. Winin front of my wife women, I
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cried three Folk times a day.Yeah, I just cry. And that's
I don't know why I be releasing. I be releasing sometime I just cry.
And they got this book how toCry Like a Man, And oh
yeah, that's Jason Wilson, Yes, Jackson Wilson, and he had since
say me and him used to betalking to my DMS and I had read
a couple of inserts from the bookand it was so powerful to me because
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I'm like, I'm the type ofperson. I'm a nerd. I had
like three folk books and I justtwo three chapters, two three chapters,
but how to Cry like a Manand vulnerability is the most beautiful thing it
is on earth. I got thatbecause he a real like karate since say
massed dollar, he will fuck youup, but he was also crying.
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You see the way he is withhis kids, the kids in his in
his classes and teaching him how tobe men. Yeah, man, and
how to be emotional at the sametime. It's emotional intelligence For me,
Like how I navigated, I askedmyself, why am I feeling like this?
What is this? What does thisemotion? This me being triggered like
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this emotionally? What does this stemfrom? So it always takes me going
back. Was it ever a timein my life where my mama or somebody
in the family made me feel likeI wasn't seen or made me feel like
I wasn't good enough, or mademe feel like I wasn't worthy? And
could it be that that's triggering this? I talked to myself because once I
talk to myself, I'll be likeman Gates, Man, I don't call
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it back. Man, Man,you getting the same results every time?
May we they weren't no chasing?We all have replaced it. Sometimes you
gotta talk to yourself. Hey man, you got to get into them with
yourself off ship. Hey bro,there's a book called hey no No,
But let me tell you man,the same thing. Man how you say
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you talk to yourself? Right?Or where did that come from? When
I went and did some work,man, they got these things called patterns,
And everything that I did for thisnine days, bro, was patterns.
Figuring out why I'm an enabler.You know what I'm saying. I
ain't abled. You know, Igot you. I got you. I
take care of that, trying tomake your problems disappear. You need this,
I got you. I'm an enabler. Also, man, the pattern
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we all got patterns of you.A giver? Yeah, man, but
guess what talk to me. Takersalways recognize gift boom. The hardest thing
I wanted me to do was toset boundaries and say no. And and
this is the year that I've beenputting the energy back into myself for the
first time of my life. Hey, bro, I've been really putting energy
into meat. Like I say,salt bath, I said night, like
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I do the things that it takesfor me me to here. I ain't
talking about going get a pedicure ofmanicure, that's just maintenance. I'm talking
about really soul searching with yourself,getting with yourself, sitting along with yourself
and working through them. Psychological traumas, emotional traumas, that type of shit.
So you don't be triggered when yousomewhere is everybody if faking living up
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fact, everybody suffering on the inside. Did you and you you knew exactly
what I was saying? Bro,Did you have a problem with saying no?
What? And where did that comefrom? Because not feeling like I
was good enough? It's themed fromthat. And then it also you identify
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with not having when you really comefrom nothing, you identify with not having.
So you see yourself when you werestruggling in somebody else. And so
because you see yourself from when youwere struggling with somebody else, you you
easing your inner child. You youyou easing the pain of your inner child
through helping others, which is abeautiful thing. Spot, But you gotta
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realize, I got people that aretakers and they recognize give us, they'll
come tell you, they come playvulner but they play, they do all
that. But when you fast andI haven't eaten in the last like four
days, so you can't go fora house without you and you can really
eat my in my mind, butwhen you just I'm gonna know if you're
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my real friend. When I tellyou, I'm not gonna be able to
do it because you're once you tellno, once you tell them no man,
lord down' rotten dirty mother. Nine. Yes, it's the one hundred
is and no man FM he changed, he's this. He's a story of
my life. Yeah, man,I got mountains. Hey, I got
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mountains in my backyard. When Igo look, it's beautiful. I could
see my old spot from my newspot. I'm blessed. Guess who lived
there? Just me? It's me? Really? So where is where?
Where do the little ones live at? Where the kids live at? They
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on a reservation? Talk to me. I got a reservation in Mississippi.
Form we got camels, we gotall that, we grow our own food,
all that. So all the cluttersnot even in their lives. And
they so advanced now since they've beenthere. And we just went like two
months before COVID here. We ain'tknow that we was. They was like,
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we ain't leaving. We're gonna stayhere. That's my answer. We're
gonna stay here. But spiritually Iwas called back to California for something I
don't know for what. This partof it, I'm like I'm going to
move back to California for it's justsomething told me to go. Then once
I got the house, I waslike, man, I don't want to
go, but it was there's somethingfor me to do here. It's some
work that I have to do herethat's gonna help a lot of people.
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I don't know what it is,but you know, the universe say I'm
doing it. Now. Somebody gonnasee this and be like, it's gonna
it's gonna trigger something and they gonnajust work through their problems. You know.
I'll talk to people and sometimes doyou ever feel like you're talking to
people but you're talking to yourself?And but what I mean by that if
people don't understand what I'm saying,we are each other. We are all
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reflections of each other. And Icould tell somebody something motivating and I'm like,
man, you know, just dothis and do this. Do But
then I'm like really talking to myself. Because one of my patterns also call
is I'm a procrastinator. You seethis, Yes, this is my list.
This is my list. I makemy list. I make my little
list. I keep it right here. I keep it right here, and
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I write down everything and I gothrough and check my list off. Say
souse, guess what, I'm thebest procrastinator in the world. Yeah,
I'm gonna check it off. Yeah, cold Shawl pray gym studio this,
I'm gonna check it off. Ikeep it. I keep this with me.
Have you ever been? Maybe tomorrow, I get it on to tomorrow
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and then Monday. Where you ever? That guy? That man, it's
like my grandfather was real militant.He live in side me. Now,
people gonna think I'm crazy when Isay that. I got he he live
in saide me. Now. Hetalked to me nothing. And then my
nickname Dick. Keep me like,say Dick. So I be walking around
the house talking to myself, SayDick, gonna get you in the shower.
I gotta make myself do it.Say Dick gonna get in the shower.
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Come on, you come on,because another thirty minutes gonna be the
past and you ain't gonna do nothing. Now you ain't gonna want to do
nothing. Come on, let's getto it. Hey, man, why
the nickname Dick? Is that akid's name or I don't know that he
just called me that dick. Iused to hate it because my friends was
to tease me because when he'll callme, say Dick, let me how
that you, they'll be, hey, dick. Nah. Now they now
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they my other nickname both, theymight be like they call me both.
Now where does both come from?I think my ain't he used to call
me that? But uh, theMiskans they be calling me cartel bo and
it's just hey, man. Andwhen you say you've been extremely like universal
too, you know, I've hadyou in the neighborhood. Man, you
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done spoke forty five different languages.You know what I'm saying. But but
you've been speak the less Spanish inthe little average. Yeah, because I
come from a mixed cultural background.But you've seen and I was gonna say,
you've seen multicultural like you've seen tappedin. You know what I'm saying.
And it's not like it's not afake tapping. I'm that thing,
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you know. I hate to sayit like that, but I got the
gone live in my truth. I'mreally that thing. Everything that comes wrong
me leave different. But when thebeloved is off location, they gonna be
returned back into original form. Butwhen they all you gotta do is go
back into history books and look,anything that came wrong me then became different.
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But when the beloved is off oflocation, ones return unto original form.
So I can't get mad of awoman that was dealing with me start
backsliding once something off location, right, I know exactly what you saying.
It's not I can't be upset ifone of my list brothers or one of
my list soldiers started backsliding, aturning into something milky, because when the
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beloved is off location, ones returnedinto original form. I'm really that thing,
and I got to acknowledge myself likethat. And when I say that
thing, I'm talking about that thing. Were you afraid to talk sometimes because
you felt like people wouldn't understand?Oh, I felt like, I'm I'm
man, I'm being too cock onbeing boastful. But if you being factual,
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like I said, I'm not therichest man in the world, I'd
have been broke more times than i'dhave been rich. I'd have lost way
more fight than out of won.But I want the ones that count.
And it ain't been a time thatI wasn't scared or I didn't have feel.
It's okay to have feel, butI operated and I faced that feel
with bravery. Did you did youkeep yourself from talking sometimes? Because all
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the time, but right now likethis other, this other lady. Uh,
I hate to say that. Shelike what you would consider like a
I don't know in English, youwill probably say a healer, but like
in Spanish, she's like a colondra. So like she told me, she
said, your soul is so ancient. She say, when it come on
you to speak, just speak becauseyou never know who you helping. Just
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speak. Yeah, don't don't,don't hold. So I had to say
that, like I'm really that thing, like like you can't say, like
all these feathers in my head,I earned these. I knew what I
went through to earn these feathers,all these tattoos on me, I earned
it, these scars all on mybody, I earned it. So it's
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beautiful, Like it's beautiful to bewhere I'm at right now. Hear what
I'm here and hear what I'm askingyou now, not that you're surprised,
but surprised, but for surprise thebetter words, I'm surprised where I'm going
with this? Are you surprised thatyou here today? Right? I told
you that, man, Listen wecan go get ball head Mike. He
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no, I cried. I toldhim, I say thank you. He
say why. I say, Man, I'm gonna be honest. If it
wasn't for you, I be deador in jail. When I talk to
feet, I tell Feet, thankyou, because if it wasn't for you,
I'd be dead or in jail.I wish I could tell my daddy
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right now, you know, thankyou you, And I wish you,
if he listening, thank you,because if it wasn't for you believing in
me, I'll be dead in jail. All that you said, whatever you
know, you had to exhibit thebehavior you had the exhibit to make me
go with my move to become great. So I don't hate you. I
am grateful your building, not myrear daddy, my street daddy like kind
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of like bird Man and Wayne likemy street daddy like I'm I'm grateful for
you. I am. I'm gratefulwhen you, when you were, gave
him my all and I ain't gettingnothing from it. God to be love.
I'm up and rank and I ain'tpush one button when you show mercy
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when you when you that's where youare now, pad it with faces.
I ain't getting nothing covered. Iknow they still trying to get some punished.
The Godmother gave me coughing. I'mprotected. On that other end,
hey man, can I ask youabout scars? Free my dollar out of
slim my children and they mom you, they clutching Miama, say they kill
us and I'm one of them.No love for the week on the strongs
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about these streets. I took myselfout of reach. I tied of piling
all these leaders. You can coverall your stars up in diamonds, but
it's still gonna hurt. Man,don't get me. The talking can cover
all these scars, but it's stillgonna hurt. Gonna hurt. Say you
love me, and it showed methat for real. Don't play with luve
of that type of get you killed. You're gonna cover all your scars up
in diamonds, but it's still gonnahurt. I told them the truth,
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beefing with my cheek while I'm injail, trying not to click out bomb
striction. Can't make bail gone withall this well, I ain't called in
them minute, ain't bothering a minute. I can't wait to see them stars
in the ceiling free all of them? Man, what man? Who may?
That's the really that's the royal songon earth. Don't nobody want to
hear that? Amen? And hereas well too though they see him.
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Man, I supposed to cry oryou're to be to day when we got
to live or we lived. Butthis's what we've been talking about from Amen,
And that's what we've been kind oftalking about. Do you know bread
winner is in the dictionary one whoearns money to support a household. I'm
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in the dictionary a man. Whenyou hear that, and we say,
we're not supposed to cry, right, and we grew up on that and
now we're kind of not flipping scripts, but now we're saying, yeah,
man, we can't. I wasthe first one to ever make emotional bassed
music. I was the first ordersto come out and be vulnerable and talk
about my feelings. You go backto Eastlott, you go back to every
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album you could see she's the talkabout me. Why it's important to name
the album Isla because that's my daughter. Yes, that was my She changed
my life. Her name just whatit means to critique, to make better
of spiritual awakening. She gave meall of these things and my son,
my son, his name Kasa.He powerful, Kasa is powerful, a
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great gift. Why was this bodyof music called Kaza? Because he did
all of these things for me,like having a son. I was forced
to stand in my power and hewas a great gift, a great treasure.
The word causes mean a great treasure, a great gift, and it
also means powerful. I had tostand in my power. And how old
is Cosa? Now? He atenow? And the reason why I asked
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that? Right, but he reallyBut the reason why I asked that is
because there's a gap between of course, not just the kids, but the
album titles. And I was thereason why I asked that. Boom,
That's why this one Kasa, Iwasn't spiritually ready. You know, God
still was, you know he wasstaring at bowl up. Yeah, he
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was standing in the kitchen with mebecause anyone else would have been like,
oh, I got to do Casaright now, because I'm all man,
Yeah, see I ain't rushing.See I'm living. I'm on my journey.
And my spirit told me when itwas trying to release Causa, you
know it's been supposed to come out, and got pushed back two years.
I wasn't ready. Yeah, Ihad him in a slow cooker. Anything
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slow, be for sure, anythingfast, don't lave, ain't nothing you
could. I can't nothing to standon side of that cosa because it's texture.
Man, you could talk about allof you all day all that's cool.
Kasa is healing the world right now. It's healing the world. You
can play the song like the melodies. You hear your growth in the album.
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You don't see it. I wouldhave never said then, how you
use your voice as an instrument.It's almost like, bro, this is
almost where you hear. It's ain'tthe sing. Yeah, I used to
be scared to sing like you canhear the emotion. I'm emotional. I
put my all into it. Iain't just getting in there saying a bunch
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of that sound good. And youknow what I love about it too.
Man, it's a lifestyle album becauseat one point we hear like, man,
I wish I could. It justmeans I'm in love and it's all
crazy. The creator of the starsup and but non blessings rain down over
up and when I see the sunshineto turn my pain and the love,
it just it's just it's me.I gave him me. You can't sit
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nothing outside of it. Everybody elsegot that nine and ten and that seventy
thirty. It's really here. Allyou gotta do is just cut from around
them and take the say it yougotta do it. Just take the balloon
wrap off that, take the innertool of him and eat that he platinum.
You about to hear somebody say thison a song though, this is
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all I'm all, man, yougotta come get me off the bottom.
I'm down and swimming with the dolphins. Hey man, I hope I ain't
go on over nobody here. Howdo you know when a song not a
song is done? But how doyou know it's ready to give up?
I'm gonna be honest with you,big brother, I don't ever know that
the hardest thing for me to pickwas to pick songs for this album.
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I let my brother do it.It's crazy. My brother, who is
my manager right now, is whorecorded the whole cause of album. And
me and him was recording these songs. We made big life. We made
big life. We made big life. That was before after but right like
when Kobe that happened with Kobe,that when I was saying seven minutes the
crash sight seven minutes from my house. Rest in peace to the black mamble.
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This here going to but jin gota hundred keys in a black home,
you know, like like like allof this was going on at the
time that my nanny came in.She said, yes, so bad.
I told my tatoo orders. Isay, man, remember I told you,
I say, man, I don'tfeel like we should leave the house
today. You just need to stayinside. And she came right to the
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house. I hate to even saythis because man, that always be but
that's what happened. She came inthe house and was like, they say,
Kobe just had a helicopter crab,so you said we shouldn't leave the
house before before it happened. Thathappened seven minutes from my house. Like
where's like it always be happening.The meat like I saw Nipsey, Like
the don'na say, man, hejust won't clock. But you could suck
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my if you feel like that,because a lot of them say that,
but they don't ever say it tomy face. They go tell other you
know, see me, But it'sme off though, because like I don't
got a lot of them I don'teven like to talk to But I seen
Nipsey maybe a day or two daysbefore he died. I seen him,
me and him talk like two daysbefore he left. He changed for him.
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And the day that happened with Kobe, I was coming outside my tattoo.
He my tattoo orders. I toldmy we was recording everything I say.
So I'm telling me we don't needto leave today. We can't back
in the house. Uh My nannacame, she from Africa. She came
in there. She say, theysay, they say that the basketball player
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he just died in a in ain a crash. I'm thinking she's talking
about a car and he died sevenminutes from my house. I go hiking
on the mountain. I can,man, you know I made videos from
the from the Mother Mountain. Buteverybody said, you know, I'm cool,
I'm weird. Why do you continueto talk because I'm helping people.
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You just always got it's just alwaysthey just they be. They don't tell
me this though, they be tellingmy mom when they tell other people,
they don't tell me. Yeah.Such and such was saying, you need
to need to stop because you beatman. Tell them, tell him,
tell him suck my I Love youby keV. What about the the cancel
culture? Bro? You know I'malready black ball. What Jesus said,
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you can't ban a snow man,right, you can't ban a snowman.
Amend you trip off of that?And I'm already black But I was born
black ball. Say you don't seethis. I was born black ball.
So so what can they do toyou? What you gonna do? Nothing?
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You can't do me, You can'tdo me. A. I think
I'm happy. How Richard Price saidwhen he was on the h in jail,
on that floor, he said,oh my god, it's so comfortable.
Please please don't make what was myuh remember the big dude when he
was singing with because what he's talkingabout is a movie called Stir Crazy with
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They was trying to buck him,like him and Jean Wilder, that's the
one you're talking about, right,And they threw him in with like this
killer, this big white dude killerKiller, and they're like, oh,
this is gonna break them. It'sgonna break them, It's gonna break them.
And then when they came back,dude was in there singing with him.
A situation is an opportunity. Youknow what I'm saying, might have
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gonna somebody gonna go back and repeatthis in a in a in an interview
and act like David. But everysituation is an opportunity. It's a lesson.
It don't make me better. Adversitybe a character. So I welcome
all challenges, where they be mental, physical, or emotion I walk,
I'm exciting you. I ain't turning. I ain't turning nothing down. So
you gotta realize everything ain't physical likeif a dude. So I'm taking all
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phades. Well, you don't betaking these emotional fades. You don't take
these psychological phases. You being challengedmentally and emotionally and things of that nature.
You gotta accept at all. Yougotta accept and how it coming.
The way I live my lifestyle.Man, I believe in God. He
ain't gonna put nothing on me.I can't ball. I accept however it
come. You been talking about blackbo I was born black bomb already that
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I'll make this look good. Everybodywon't be a tall it's time to be
one. Yeah, I'll make thislittle fly Homie Amen Bill for a tough
Onn't you hey? Man? Areyou ready for whatever comes for tomorrow's Yeah,
I don't hope for the best,and they expect the worst. I
hope for the best. They expectthe best. Said the best is coming
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to me. I hope for thebest. How do you know that?
Because I look at me? Lookat me? Are you happy to?
And then when I say happy todayand I mean happier? Do you know
this? Orr? In two years, are we gonna sit down and say
big I sent to representatives? Istill have thought. I still get thought.
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No, I don't get it.Yeah, that's real. I get
I think about I did it afew times in here thinking back. I
was triggered. But that's healthy thatI went through that to the I can
laugh about it. But yeah,that's that was something you did, homie.
Did you ever think even earlier onthat if you smiled, if you
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did, some other people would thinkthey could play you soft, and you
had to always smile. You beatyour He always smiled, Floyd Maywell always
smiled, and he a beach Tysonsmiles, vulnerable Tyson Tyson cry and everything
in front and a man bite youroff. Yeah yeah, yeah, that
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type of like he played a win. Is it scary to to figure that
out or is it ant likening tofigure that out? Like, man,
I ain't with all. I'll tellyou right now, big brother, I
don't want to fight because man,you're gonna probably push that ink pin at
me and everything, like when Isay, there you go, that's what
it's grandfather to tell you. Hey, the white people, you know how
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they fight? Yeah? Man,huh they fight. They fight with that
ink pin. Yeah, with theirlegs crossed with coffee and don't and they
wanted, but it's a price.Then you see how hard you hit when
they swinging in that ink pin atyour mother. Let me see, let
me see how let me see howgood you fight? They fight with that
ink pin. Let me see howgood you fight? Yeah, because you
know that'd be the first thing,bro, that'd be the first, Yeah
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I did. I beat him onetime and I was uh, operating out
of fear and he was operating outof ego. And I had this feel,
if I talk to me crazy,I'm gonna dive in your I'm gonna
dive dead in your face. Andhe got the talking crazy because I ignored
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him. Well he really was,he really was a fan, but I
ignored him. He got a talkingcrazy and I dove in his face and
pushed that ink, paying at me. He had a mouthful of gold teeth.
Hell yeah, he had a mouthfulof gold teeth. Mm hmm yep,
and you pay for every one ofthem. He pushed that ink,
pining at me. I had topay him so he didn't tell on man
court. I had to pay tohave that matter resolved. I don't even
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want that in my mouth no more. It doesn't even mean what it used
to me. You got silence inyour mouth, but you're not silent.
Is there anything, bro that youlook back on and say, man,
I thought when you had, Ithought when you had I thought when you
had like last time you seen me, I had a mouthful of silence.
I thought that when you had silencein your mouth, that mean you was
rocking solid. When you had amouthful of platinum and diamonds, you was
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platinum. You was platinum. Andthen you realize, mhmm. Do you
ever look back on anything? Theytricked me and not publicly have to say
it, but do you ever wishyou could either apologize? I burnt a
lot of bridges my ego and feelI burned a lot of bridges for them,
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bridges they had to burn. Itain't that it's like uh like like
I burned a lot of bridges becauseI was standing on false morals and principles.
But at the end of the day, but did you know you were
standing on false morals and Princeville everybody. But it's so beautiful because it was
spiritual. Because everything that I thoughtI wanted to be around, y'all up
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and do stuff, and everybody aroundy'all get up. So I'm really was
blessed. My spirit knew you wasif I burn if I if I killed
you your more and raised you right. Do you ever walk around and do
you ever walk around and for noreason just start smiling? Sorry, hey
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man, do you ever walk aroundand just start smiling because you figured out?
You figured out something? Yes?Like like like they had orders like
like naw in my life that Ididn't. I done got over the uh,
the pride and the and the feelof rejection like that. I reached
out the orders and asked them towork with them. And they always give
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me the run around. But thenwhen I be saying, I just be
smiling like they and they know youyou and but and they know I did
it for you. I did itfor you. Man, what y'all you
don't owe me nothing. I'm doingthis out my heart. But when it's
my turn, yeah, amen,And without saying any name. But at
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the same time, nah, itain't no need to say no, no
what I'm about to ask because tobe honest, it's at a point now
I wouldn't want to try a positionwith you because you know what you gotta
do. You gotta take care ofeverybody around you. You can't know what
about yourself and what I was goingto ask, and this is just a
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no any names. Do you haveany soul called genre hip hop friends who
mean? Yeah, yeah, it'speople I respect. I respect. I'm
talking because see when I see you, I always see you kind of like
walking solo and you never hear likea crew and people that it's people that
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reach out to me. It's crazybecause the people that everybody will say is
the worst people be the people thatare called me and check on me for
no reason. But the people atthe world be like, man, that
good and all that right, mhm hm, he my fault. You
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forgive me, So that's sorry.But I don't do all that saying names
and all of those. That's whyI didn't ask, because to be honest,
it wouldn't even matter. I'll justbe really, I'm so man,
I'm so lit man, I'm soturned up right now. If I said
now, I'm gonna have them inan l right man, leave on a
flat you eating. I'm so necessary. I am so not sorry. Kevin
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Gates, my brother, Thank youfor coming into the neighborhood. Bro,
thank you for having me. Amen. I can't believe that again, I'm
back in the gated community. Ican't believe that it's been like five or
six years since we sat down.Man. Energy, I'm telling you,
Bro, your energy has been presentin here. Bro. You know how
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they got people that that that's that, that's that's fake happy. So every
time you say that, but yourayes tell a different story. Your eyes
don't make your smile. See,I still have See I let people know
that I have dub days. Ido human being. I have tough days.
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One of the most beautiful things Ido is I get up and go
to the gym. That's sterrapy forme. I'm gonna get all that stuff
about me now my day beautiful.So now I ain't tripping out at the
store who said the wrong thing tome. I don't get no beeping at
me in trade, fine, fire, shut the up. I don't care
about you. Yeah, I'm justdriving. It's just it's beautiful because I
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still have tough days. Easily smallme off and then I gotta just tell
myself, man, Kevin hold on, man, you you talk to yourself
a lot all day. I knowI do. Hey, I said on
that cartel swag I say, Isay fun fact about Kevin Gates. I
talk to myself. All geniuses talkto themselves. That's how I process and
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work my way through. Man.I talked to myself. I procrastinate.
If I don't talk to myself,I will sit at the house and I'll
be a runt man. Will continueto work on you, bro, what
was easy? It's hard for me. That's why for myself, because I
hold myself accountable. People with what'seasy. Yeah, they do. See
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people say that you hard to dealwith because you're not easy to fool,
right. I don't know what's wrongwith big boy man, And I had
to learn that too. Yeah.Man, they got a book called The
Subtle of Not Giving Yes Easy Call. I said so much free. I'll
be, like I said, freelybecause all you can do is all you
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can do. If I know Idid my best, I wouldn't up with
you, man, And that's howI move. And I tell people sometimes,
man, if you lost me,it's your fault. It is if
you lost me to say about youdon't determine how I with you. Only
you could determine that. So youman, you ever thought about the book
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or you still live in the pages, I would, but you go,
just take some of my little dailywisdom of my quotes and motivation and make
it a book. Yeah, becauseeverything. One thing I pride myself on
being is a skeptic. I wasabout to go to a Buddhist church.
I went to a Buddhist church theother day because you know, they just
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did their New Year. I gotsome people that's bullish and then you go
to show you how how with people. They just loved me. They invited
me over there, but it waslike an hour away, and I was
like, you know what, whenI come over here by y'all, I
like the energy. They was like, all we do is pray. All
we do is pray here. Isay, it's so peaceful. They was
like, yeah, peaceful and verypowerful. I was like, I know,
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I could feel it, and Iwas really about to go because that's
just me, Like I want tosee show me cause you know, like
I say, the old systems thatI had in place, they didn't really
work out that well, right,I like these new systems, but at
least you got something to compare themto too, you know. And I
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tell people, I say, man, that's tuition into the school of experience.
And you paid a lot of tuition. You know what I'm saying.
You can't tell somebody something. Youknow, Man, you got to let
people crash the car. And Igotta be the message that I bring.
Man, Like, if I'm tellingyou this but I ain't looking like it
and I ain't showing you, thenI'm just talking if you ain't living it.
Yeah, I want to be everythinglike like you see, like them
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them billionaires, like will I bemeeting them, Like a lot of the
young billionaires be tagged up by it. Be right, being a fitness,
they be investing, they just befly. They just everything be on point
with them. And it's I don'tthink they be addicted to the money.
I think they be addicted to likeself improvement. They always trying to get
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better in every way, like anykind of body. Heck, like the
I be meaning some young because likebillionaires, it'd be jumping off private JITs
like you will never know who theyare. They just fly, but they
fly and they really they committed tolike success. I just be meeting them.
It's like and I was like,for me to be attracting this,
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now, I must have opened myselfup. I must be giving off a
different energy. So it's beautiful likeyou all with you a track, you
all with you a track. Inoticed like since I really started saying I
don't want no distractions, like alot of the most beautiful distractions been coming.
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But that's how it is. It'sa beautiful distraction because it's not connected
to no source. It's only herethe trying energy for me. Beautiful distractions
come when you start getting focused.Yeah, it could be anything. It
could be somebody giving you false promises. It could be somebody giving you a
business opportunity. Sir, I'll takea meeting, but I don't like to
have meetings about meetings. That's apart of you not getting that's part of
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you saying no, I'm not goingto share my ideas and all that with
you, and all that I'm nottaking meetings about meetings. Oh man,
Kim, I love you, bro, Yes, sir, I'm sincere.
I love you for real. Thankyou from the moment I ever first met
you. Like with all these otherlike interviewers and people, you never demonized
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me. You never came after mefor clout. You was always genuine with
me. It's not that many peoplein this industry that have been genuine with
me like that. I'm in it. I'm not of it. I'm so
I just want to tell you Ilove you for real. Like by the
time you asked me, could youcome to my house, I say,
he just take your shoes off andcome feel the energy, Yes, sir,
and I'm going to do that.I meant that and I stand on
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that to this day, Like ifI love you, I'm gonna get out
the bed at three m in themorning for you. It's rappers out here
that know that. Hey man,I remember we were talking about the Boxers
and I remember keV you just hadyour hand like this and you was like
it was hard for you to Ican't do it. And it was like
because I can't watch do you rememberthat? Like he know, I know.
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I can't watch him fight. Ican't watch you, and why is
that? I love you too much? I can't watch it. That's like
I just had to go to theChaicullae Stevenson fight. I'm at a level
not to realize that it's okay.This highest supposed to go. But I
can't. That's Devin Hannes. Ican't just watch you just fight, yeah,
man, like I'm getting better,Hey, dude. It was hard
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for me because I love boxing,and I love boxing as a spectator.
When I don't have a relationship withthat, I love it. And then
Fernando Vargas became like my partner andit was totally different watching Fernando Vargas fight,
Like I love him. He don'teven know it. I just love
him. I wouldn't never let nobodyheart him. I love him. Watch
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this from the house, man,I got to watch this from the house.
I don't know it, just hejust I look at the type of
ks and he's just he reminds meof me. He just make you love
him. And I ain't never methim, but I just love it.
A man well on the reil broI love you. I love you,
man. I just wanted to saythat because a lot of people use that
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term like and I didn't got tothe point to where I don't stop saying
it, like I stopped saying itwhen I don't mean it. But like
I love you, I mean that, man, thank you, brother.
And I'm telling you man, Ialways that's like energy. I hate to
bring this dude name up, butI love him because a lot of people
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don't like him. But that's likeCharleston White, I love him, man,
I love it. Yeah, bro, amen, I can't I love
I can't help who I love.I love man. Yeah, and my
man, that's it. I don'tknow if that's a character, but that's
him. Man. I take it. And whatever Charleston White say, I
don't lose sleep. I love him. I don't lose sleep like when I
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he said about me, Oh,really come out that man, Kevin Gates.
Y'all pray for Kevin Gates. Man, I go back and laugh at
it now. Been acting strange sincehe came out and said that. I
say, I didn't catch that.Yeah, but I just told him.
I say, man, listen,I ain't even mad at you. I
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love you. I said if yousay I'm making strange I don't drink no
more, I don't smoke no more. I go to the gym. I
don't have no security. I amfree, and I'm ready for death.
I'm ready for death whenever it comesto me. That is the greatest That
is the greatest blessing any man couldreceive. It's a beautiful death. And
I can scare out of somebody else. Nah. I mean I guess that
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other people that are scared to die. But you know, we know the
truth. But like, and Ijust told him, I love you.
So if you feel like I'm makingstrangth, that's cool. I don't do
any drugs. I might be geekedup off the coffee here and now I
gotta have I gotta have a doubleshot. And that's just me before every
interview, I gotta hit me inthe coffee. Man. I appreciate you,
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Bro, I appreciate you. Thereit is man Kevin Gates in the
neighborhood. Big Boys,
Welcome to another episode of The Big, The Big Interview Podcast. I told
my Ted two Waters, I say, man, remember I told you,
I say, man, I don'tfeel like we should leave a house today.
We just need to stay inside.And she came right to the house.
I hate to even say this becausenigga, man, it would always
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be, but that's what happened.She came in the house and was like,
they say, Kobe just had ahelicopter crib. So you said we
shouldn't leave the house before before ithappened. They happened seven minutes from my
house. Like where's like it alwaysbe happening the meet like I saw Nipsey
Like, I don't say, man, he just won't clout, but you
could suck my if you feel likethat. Big Boys Neighborhood, You're Big
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Interview Ladies and Gentlemen, Part two, Kevin Gates in the Neighborhood. Man.
Hopefully y'all had a chance to watchpart one, and Kevin is one
of those people bro when he comeinto the neighborhood, keV, I can't
let you go. And it's crazy, man, no matter how long we
sit and talk today, no,I'm gonna feel like I didn't talk to
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you long enough. So let's getinto this part two with Kevin Gates in
the neighborhood, Big Boys Neighborhood.Hey man, you have a dream of
being not a celebrity, but fulfillingyour dream of being an artist and being
a better human being. Right,I wanted to. But when you think
about what you have, not notversus what you don't have, what's the
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best thing that I got being KevinGates And what's the worst thing about being
Kevin Gates? I got a family. That's the best. That's winning that
I told you that last time.Winning for me is having a family.
Winning for me. I ain't havingno means or females and like that just
be stressed out. Mm hmm,because I ain't going burk and who yeah,
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hello, I don't know who startedthis epidemic burking be at the mall
by yourself. With all due respect, I ain't trying to disrespect no woman.
I please don't take don't no womantake this disrespect. If you do
your mama. But like I wassaying, if you do for you,
but you got fake eyelashes, yougot fake hell, you got fake you
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got fake everything on your body.But you want a real like I worked
hard for these results. I suffered. I went through the fire adversity Bill's
character. I went through the firefor this. I only had surgery one
time on my leg when I gotshot knocked my bone of my leg because
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I ain't about to I wouldn't giveit up. God blessed it dead because
I ain't gonna give it up.But anyway, long story short, You're
gonna kill me anyway, so Imight as well fight for my life.
You're gonna kill me anyway. Soanyway, long story short, not get
I just that surgery for me sobad that I can't see myself willingly going
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through that again. I can't.So I worked hard for this, I
suffer for this, and I washonest with everybody I said. I became
so infatuated with being slim and havinga body. I used to take adderall
to go to the gym. Iused to take so much pre workout it
probably would have bust my heart.By the grace of God, I'm still
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here. Until I started just celebratingmy success and small increments and not comparing
myself to the people that I seeon the Instagram with the perfect baddies and
not my body that perfect early on? Was that for you when you say
the adderall working out? Was thatfor you? Or was that for image?
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Image? Because I wanted to bethe best of the best. I
wanted to beat it. And it'slike, nah, since I been on
the mushrooms, not the psychedelic mushrooms, but like the Lion's man to reach
it, the carter SEPs, theTurkey Taia Like, it's like the mushroom
blend pre workouts and stuff like thatbefore I go work out. It give
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me a better cognitive function. It'slike beat juice in the saffron, give
you that mental focus that you belooking for. It gives you all of
them things. And I just Ijust I'm thankful that I caught myself because
I was headed for destructure. Wereyou depressed? Yeah, some something that's
a cry for help. When yousee somebody going through the gym three four
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times a day, something not rightwith him, because something wouldn't write with
me. And as men, we'llgo to the gym and just kill ourselves
and hurt ourselves in the gym tokeep from hurting somebody else. It's a
lot of men that suff in silence. They come up to me, they
hug me in the gym, Theycry right there when they see me,
because I see you and see whatyou're going. When you say suffering silence,
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do you know how powerful that is? We do. It's a lot
of us that suff in silence,Like we suffer in silence to get the
things that we think we want.But everybody want what they don't want,
and we want what we don't needtoo. Yeah, we don't. We
don't really want those those things.We just think we want it. But
when you love what you have,you have everything you need. We was
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happy to just have a call.Tellis pulled up in this rolls rights on
the side of it. Now I'msuffering again. Hey man, did you
have people that were afraid? Notonly do you have to go through your
chain? He got this bad withit, But if he go to jail,
she gone right. But this womanright here, I go to jail
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man, the horse legs ain't neverbroke. She gonna run for me.
She gonna run for How do youfind that out though? And not not?
And I know the question sounds soeasy, I know, yeah,
but I got a simmer answer.Go ahead, the greatest test that anything
could stand. It's time. Justgive it time. It'll reveal itself.
Yeah, man, it'll reveal herself. I know a lot of I know
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a lot of bad. Hey,you ain't gonna hold on it if he
go to jail. You're not gonnakick the phone up. You're not gonna
do none of that. And Ihate to look at it like that.
But would you have with me whenI was broke? Do you have that?
Do lor? That's just telling meit's time for Yeah? Did you
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need a break? No saying I'mokay, all right, don't make it
up? All right, good togo. Hey man, did you and
do you have that when? BecauseI hear you speak of your queen quite
a bit, Drinka? Is thatis that the one that held you down?
My best friend? Like man,me and Drenk best friends. That
gonna be my best friend. Butshe got children too, beautiful children for
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me. So that's my best friend? All right? What is best friend
mean? I don't just want nowife. I don't want no wife.
I don't even like that title.That's some American I want. I want
my best friend because you know you'regonna honor your friend. Different your best
friend then you're gonna honor a wife. You know, a wife just seemed
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like a business deal, a business. Yeah, it seemed like a business
relationship. Happy wife, happy life, Like like you're gonna not need to
fuck off contingent upon if I'm keepingyou happy like that, don't that's not
I want a best friend. Iwanna I want to have a best friend
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to where if you my best friend, like we deare for each other,
I'm there for you emotionally. Youjust you have a deafinite family. I'm
gonna comfort you. Like, look, you know what, I ain't gonna
go to the gym today. Youknow I'm gonna do this, dude,
this boom brought you some flowers,you know. Just listen, small things
I could do to let you know. If you need anythink, I'm here.
Can your best friend be your wife? Can your wife be your best
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friend? My best friend could bemy partner. My bes friend could be
my partner. Either we grow togetheror we grow apart, because it's gonna
be times in everybody life where y'allgonna grow together, then y'all gonna grow
apart, and then y'all gonna growinto y'allselves, and then it reunite.
It might just go left and right, but guess what, it ain't a
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negative thing. We experienced a beautifulthing together and now we the journey must
go on. And my thing andthe reason why I did ask that keV
is because like my wife, Iconsider my wife my best friend. Win
it. Yeah, and I'm talkingabout man like I could be vulnerable.
You know what I'm saying. Winin front of my wife women, I
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cried three Folk times a day.Yeah, I just cry. And that's
I don't know why I be releasing. I be releasing sometime I just cry.
And they got this book how toCry Like a Man, And oh
yeah, that's Jason Wilson, Yes, Jackson Wilson, and he had since
say me and him used to betalking to my DMS and I had read
a couple of inserts from the bookand it was so powerful to me because
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I'm like, I'm the type ofperson. I'm a nerd. I had
like three folk books and I justtwo three chapters, two three chapters,
but how to Cry like a Manand vulnerability is the most beautiful thing it
is on earth. I got thatbecause he a real like karate since say
massed dollar, he will fuck youup, but he was also crying.
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You see the way he is withhis kids, the kids in his in
his classes and teaching him how tobe men. Yeah, man, and
how to be emotional at the sametime. It's emotional intelligence For me,
Like how I navigated, I askedmyself, why am I feeling like this?
What is this? What does thisemotion? This me being triggered like
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this emotionally? What does this stemfrom? So it always takes me going
back. Was it ever a timein my life where my mama or somebody
in the family made me feel likeI wasn't seen or made me feel like
I wasn't good enough, or mademe feel like I wasn't worthy? And
could it be that that's triggering this? I talked to myself because once I
talk to myself, I'll be likeman Gates, Man, I don't call
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it back. Man, Man,you getting the same results every time?
May we they weren't no chasing?We all have replaced it. Sometimes you
gotta talk to yourself. Hey man, you got to get into them with
yourself off ship. Hey bro,there's a book called hey no No,
But let me tell you man,the same thing. Man how you say
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you talk to yourself? Right?Or where did that come from? When
I went and did some work,man, they got these things called patterns,
And everything that I did for thisnine days, bro, was patterns.
Figuring out why I'm an enabler.You know what I'm saying. I
ain't abled. You know, Igot you. I got you. I
take care of that, trying tomake your problems disappear. You need this,
I got you. I'm an enabler. Also, man, the pattern
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we all got patterns of you.A giver? Yeah, man, but
guess what talk to me. Takersalways recognize gift boom. The hardest thing
I wanted me to do was toset boundaries and say no. And and
this is the year that I've beenputting the energy back into myself for the
first time of my life. Hey, bro, I've been really putting energy
into meat. Like I say,salt bath, I said night, like
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I do the things that it takesfor me me to here. I ain't
talking about going get a pedicure ofmanicure, that's just maintenance. I'm talking
about really soul searching with yourself,getting with yourself, sitting along with yourself
and working through them. Psychological traumas, emotional traumas, that type of shit.
So you don't be triggered when yousomewhere is everybody if faking living up
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fact, everybody suffering on the inside. Did you and you you knew exactly
what I was saying? Bro,Did you have a problem with saying no?
What? And where did that comefrom? Because not feeling like I
was good enough? It's themed fromthat. And then it also you identify
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with not having when you really comefrom nothing, you identify with not having.
So you see yourself when you werestruggling in somebody else. And so
because you see yourself from when youwere struggling with somebody else, you you
easing your inner child. You youyou easing the pain of your inner child
through helping others, which is abeautiful thing. Spot, But you gotta
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realize, I got people that aretakers and they recognize give us, they'll
come tell you, they come playvulner but they play, they do all
that. But when you fast andI haven't eaten in the last like four
days, so you can't go fora house without you and you can really
eat my in my mind, butwhen you just I'm gonna know if you're
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my real friend. When I tellyou, I'm not gonna be able to
do it because you're once you tellno, once you tell them no man,
lord down' rotten dirty mother. Nine. Yes, it's the one hundred
is and no man FM he changed, he's this. He's a story of
my life. Yeah, man,I got mountains. Hey, I got
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mountains in my backyard. When Igo look, it's beautiful. I could
see my old spot from my newspot. I'm blessed. Guess who lived
there? Just me? It's me? Really? So where is where?
Where do the little ones live at? Where the kids live at? They
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on a reservation? Talk to me. I got a reservation in Mississippi.
Form we got camels, we gotall that, we grow our own food,
all that. So all the cluttersnot even in their lives. And
they so advanced now since they've beenthere. And we just went like two
months before COVID here. We ain'tknow that we was. They was like,
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we ain't leaving. We're gonna stayhere. That's my answer. We're
gonna stay here. But spiritually Iwas called back to California for something I
don't know for what. This partof it, I'm like I'm going to
move back to California for it's justsomething told me to go. Then once
I got the house, I waslike, man, I don't want to
go, but it was there's somethingfor me to do here. It's some
work that I have to do herethat's gonna help a lot of people.
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I don't know what it is,but you know, the universe say I'm
doing it. Now. Somebody gonnasee this and be like, it's gonna
it's gonna trigger something and they gonnajust work through their problems. You know.
I'll talk to people and sometimes doyou ever feel like you're talking to
people but you're talking to yourself?And but what I mean by that if
people don't understand what I'm saying,we are each other. We are all
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reflections of each other. And Icould tell somebody something motivating and I'm like,
man, you know, just dothis and do this. Do But
then I'm like really talking to myself. Because one of my patterns also call
is I'm a procrastinator. You seethis, Yes, this is my list.
This is my list. I makemy list. I make my little
list. I keep it right here. I keep it right here, and
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I write down everything and I gothrough and check my list off. Say
souse, guess what, I'm thebest procrastinator in the world. Yeah,
I'm gonna check it off. Yeah, cold Shawl pray gym studio this,
I'm gonna check it off. Ikeep it. I keep this with me.
Have you ever been? Maybe tomorrow, I get it on to tomorrow
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and then Monday. Where you ever? That guy? That man, it's
like my grandfather was real militant.He live in side me. Now,
people gonna think I'm crazy when Isay that. I got he he live
in saide me. Now. Hetalked to me nothing. And then my
nickname Dick. Keep me like,say Dick. So I be walking around
the house talking to myself, SayDick, gonna get you in the shower.
I gotta make myself do it.Say Dick gonna get in the shower.
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Come on, you come on,because another thirty minutes gonna be the
past and you ain't gonna do nothing. Now you ain't gonna want to do
nothing. Come on, let's getto it. Hey, man, why
the nickname Dick? Is that akid's name or I don't know that he
just called me that dick. Iused to hate it because my friends was
to tease me because when he'll callme, say Dick, let me how
that you, they'll be, hey, dick. Nah. Now they now
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they my other nickname both, theymight be like they call me both.
Now where does both come from?I think my ain't he used to call
me that? But uh, theMiskans they be calling me cartel bo and
it's just hey, man. Andwhen you say you've been extremely like universal
too, you know, I've hadyou in the neighborhood. Man, you
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done spoke forty five different languages.You know what I'm saying. But but
you've been speak the less Spanish inthe little average. Yeah, because I
come from a mixed cultural background.But you've seen and I was gonna say,
you've seen multicultural like you've seen tappedin. You know what I'm saying.
And it's not like it's not afake tapping. I'm that thing,
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you know. I hate to sayit like that, but I got the
gone live in my truth. I'mreally that thing. Everything that comes wrong
me leave different. But when thebeloved is off location, they gonna be
returned back into original form. Butwhen they all you gotta do is go
back into history books and look,anything that came wrong me then became different.
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But when the beloved is off oflocation, ones return unto original form.
So I can't get mad of awoman that was dealing with me start
backsliding once something off location, right, I know exactly what you saying.
It's not I can't be upset ifone of my list brothers or one of
my list soldiers started backsliding, aturning into something milky, because when the
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beloved is off location, ones returnedinto original form. I'm really that thing,
and I got to acknowledge myself likethat. And when I say that
thing, I'm talking about that thing. Were you afraid to talk sometimes because
you felt like people wouldn't understand?Oh, I felt like, I'm I'm
man, I'm being too cock onbeing boastful. But if you being factual,
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like I said, I'm not therichest man in the world, I'd
have been broke more times than i'dhave been rich. I'd have lost way
more fight than out of won.But I want the ones that count.
And it ain't been a time thatI wasn't scared or I didn't have feel.
It's okay to have feel, butI operated and I faced that feel
with bravery. Did you did youkeep yourself from talking sometimes? Because all
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the time, but right now likethis other, this other lady. Uh,
I hate to say that. Shelike what you would consider like a
I don't know in English, youwill probably say a healer, but like
in Spanish, she's like a colondra. So like she told me, she
said, your soul is so ancient. She say, when it come on
you to speak, just speak becauseyou never know who you helping. Just
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speak. Yeah, don't don't,don't hold. So I had to say
that, like I'm really that thing, like like you can't say, like
all these feathers in my head,I earned these. I knew what I
went through to earn these feathers,all these tattoos on me, I earned
it, these scars all on mybody, I earned it. So it's
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beautiful, Like it's beautiful to bewhere I'm at right now. Hear what
I'm here and hear what I'm askingyou now, not that you're surprised,
but surprised, but for surprise thebetter words, I'm surprised where I'm going
with this? Are you surprised thatyou here today? Right? I told
you that, man, Listen wecan go get ball head Mike. He
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no, I cried. I toldhim, I say thank you. He
say why. I say, Man, I'm gonna be honest. If it
wasn't for you, I be deador in jail. When I talk to
feet, I tell Feet, thankyou, because if it wasn't for you,
I'd be dead or in jail.I wish I could tell my daddy
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right now, you know, thankyou you, And I wish you,
if he listening, thank you,because if it wasn't for you believing in
me, I'll be dead in jail. All that you said, whatever you
know, you had to exhibit thebehavior you had the exhibit to make me
go with my move to become great. So I don't hate you. I
am grateful your building, not myrear daddy, my street daddy like kind
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of like bird Man and Wayne likemy street daddy like I'm I'm grateful for
you. I am. I'm gratefulwhen you, when you were, gave
him my all and I ain't gettingnothing from it. God to be love.
I'm up and rank and I ain'tpush one button when you show mercy
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when you when you that's where youare now, pad it with faces.
I ain't getting nothing covered. Iknow they still trying to get some punished.
The Godmother gave me coughing. I'mprotected. On that other end,
hey man, can I ask youabout scars? Free my dollar out of
slim my children and they mom you, they clutching Miama, say they kill
us and I'm one of them.No love for the week on the strongs
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about these streets. I took myselfout of reach. I tied of piling
all these leaders. You can coverall your stars up in diamonds, but
it's still gonna hurt. Man,don't get me. The talking can cover
all these scars, but it's stillgonna hurt. Gonna hurt. Say you
love me, and it showed methat for real. Don't play with luve
of that type of get you killed. You're gonna cover all your scars up
in diamonds, but it's still gonnahurt. I told them the truth,
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beefing with my cheek while I'm injail, trying not to click out bomb
striction. Can't make bail gone withall this well, I ain't called in
them minute, ain't bothering a minute. I can't wait to see them stars
in the ceiling free all of them? Man, what man? Who may?
That's the really that's the royal songon earth. Don't nobody want to
hear that? Amen? And hereas well too though they see him.
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Man, I supposed to cry oryou're to be to day when we got
to live or we lived. Butthis's what we've been talking about from Amen,
And that's what we've been kind oftalking about. Do you know bread
winner is in the dictionary one whoearns money to support a household. I'm
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in the dictionary a man. Whenyou hear that, and we say,
we're not supposed to cry, right, and we grew up on that and
now we're kind of not flipping scripts, but now we're saying, yeah,
man, we can't. I wasthe first one to ever make emotional bassed
music. I was the first ordersto come out and be vulnerable and talk
about my feelings. You go backto Eastlott, you go back to every
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album you could see she's the talkabout me. Why it's important to name
the album Isla because that's my daughter. Yes, that was my She changed
my life. Her name just whatit means to critique, to make better
of spiritual awakening. She gave meall of these things and my son,
my son, his name Kasa.He powerful, Kasa is powerful, a
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great gift. Why was this bodyof music called Kaza? Because he did
all of these things for me,like having a son. I was forced
to stand in my power and hewas a great gift, a great treasure.
The word causes mean a great treasure, a great gift, and it
also means powerful. I had tostand in my power. And how old
is Cosa? Now? He atenow? And the reason why I asked
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that? Right, but he reallyBut the reason why I asked that is
because there's a gap between of course, not just the kids, but the
album titles. And I was thereason why I asked that. Boom,
That's why this one Kasa, Iwasn't spiritually ready. You know, God
still was, you know he wasstaring at bowl up. Yeah, he
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was standing in the kitchen with mebecause anyone else would have been like,
oh, I got to do Casaright now, because I'm all man,
Yeah, see I ain't rushing.See I'm living. I'm on my journey.
And my spirit told me when itwas trying to release Causa, you
know it's been supposed to come out, and got pushed back two years.
I wasn't ready. Yeah, Ihad him in a slow cooker. Anything
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slow, be for sure, anythingfast, don't lave, ain't nothing you
could. I can't nothing to standon side of that cosa because it's texture.
Man, you could talk about allof you all day all that's cool.
Kasa is healing the world right now. It's healing the world. You
can play the song like the melodies. You hear your growth in the album.
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You don't see it. I wouldhave never said then, how you
use your voice as an instrument.It's almost like, bro, this is
almost where you hear. It's ain'tthe sing. Yeah, I used to
be scared to sing like you canhear the emotion. I'm emotional. I
put my all into it. Iain't just getting in there saying a bunch
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of that sound good. And youknow what I love about it too.
Man, it's a lifestyle album becauseat one point we hear like, man,
I wish I could. It justmeans I'm in love and it's all
crazy. The creator of the starsup and but non blessings rain down over
up and when I see the sunshineto turn my pain and the love,
it just it's just it's me.I gave him me. You can't sit
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nothing outside of it. Everybody elsegot that nine and ten and that seventy
thirty. It's really here. Allyou gotta do is just cut from around
them and take the say it yougotta do it. Just take the balloon
wrap off that, take the innertool of him and eat that he platinum.
You about to hear somebody say thison a song though, this is
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all I'm all, man, yougotta come get me off the bottom.
I'm down and swimming with the dolphins. Hey man, I hope I ain't
go on over nobody here. Howdo you know when a song not a
song is done? But how doyou know it's ready to give up?
I'm gonna be honest with you,big brother, I don't ever know that
the hardest thing for me to pickwas to pick songs for this album.
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I let my brother do it.It's crazy. My brother, who is
my manager right now, is whorecorded the whole cause of album. And
me and him was recording these songs. We made big life. We made
big life. We made big life. That was before after but right like
when Kobe that happened with Kobe,that when I was saying seven minutes the
crash sight seven minutes from my house. Rest in peace to the black mamble.
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This here going to but jin gota hundred keys in a black home,
you know, like like like allof this was going on at the
time that my nanny came in.She said, yes, so bad.
I told my tatoo orders. Isay, man, remember I told you,
I say, man, I don'tfeel like we should leave the house
today. You just need to stayinside. And she came right to the
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house. I hate to even saythis because man, that always be but
that's what happened. She came inthe house and was like, they say,
Kobe just had a helicopter crab,so you said we shouldn't leave the
house before before it happened. Thathappened seven minutes from my house. Like
where's like it always be happening.The meat like I saw Nipsey, Like
the don'na say, man, hejust won't clock. But you could suck
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my if you feel like that,because a lot of them say that,
but they don't ever say it tomy face. They go tell other you
know, see me, But it'sme off though, because like I don't
got a lot of them I don'teven like to talk to But I seen
Nipsey maybe a day or two daysbefore he died. I seen him,
me and him talk like two daysbefore he left. He changed for him.
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And the day that happened with Kobe, I was coming outside my tattoo.
He my tattoo orders. I toldmy we was recording everything I say.
So I'm telling me we don't needto leave today. We can't back
in the house. Uh My nannacame, she from Africa. She came
in there. She say, theysay, they say that the basketball player
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he just died in a in ain a crash. I'm thinking she's talking
about a car and he died sevenminutes from my house. I go hiking
on the mountain. I can,man, you know I made videos from
the from the Mother Mountain. Buteverybody said, you know, I'm cool,
I'm weird. Why do you continueto talk because I'm helping people.
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You just always got it's just alwaysthey just they be. They don't tell
me this though, they be tellingmy mom when they tell other people,
they don't tell me. Yeah.Such and such was saying, you need
to need to stop because you beatman. Tell them, tell him,
tell him suck my I Love youby keV. What about the the cancel
culture? Bro? You know I'malready black ball. What Jesus said,
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you can't ban a snow man,right, you can't ban a snowman.
Amend you trip off of that?And I'm already black But I was born
black ball. Say you don't seethis. I was born black ball.
So so what can they do toyou? What you gonna do? Nothing?
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You can't do me, You can'tdo me. A. I think
I'm happy. How Richard Price saidwhen he was on the h in jail,
on that floor, he said,oh my god, it's so comfortable.
Please please don't make what was myuh remember the big dude when he
was singing with because what he's talkingabout is a movie called Stir Crazy with
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They was trying to buck him,like him and Jean Wilder, that's the
one you're talking about, right,And they threw him in with like this
killer, this big white dude killerKiller, and they're like, oh,
this is gonna break them. It'sgonna break them, It's gonna break them.
And then when they came back,dude was in there singing with him.
A situation is an opportunity. Youknow what I'm saying, might have
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gonna somebody gonna go back and repeatthis in a in a in an interview
and act like David. But everysituation is an opportunity. It's a lesson.
It don't make me better. Adversitybe a character. So I welcome
all challenges, where they be mental, physical, or emotion I walk,
I'm exciting you. I ain't turning. I ain't turning nothing down. So
you gotta realize everything ain't physical likeif a dude. So I'm taking all
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phades. Well, you don't betaking these emotional fades. You don't take
these psychological phases. You being challengedmentally and emotionally and things of that nature.
You gotta accept at all. Yougotta accept and how it coming.
The way I live my lifestyle.Man, I believe in God. He
ain't gonna put nothing on me.I can't ball. I accept however it
come. You been talking about blackbo I was born black bomb already that
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I'll make this look good. Everybodywon't be a tall it's time to be
one. Yeah, I'll make thislittle fly Homie Amen Bill for a tough
Onn't you hey? Man? Areyou ready for whatever comes for tomorrow's Yeah,
I don't hope for the best,and they expect the worst. I
hope for the best. They expectthe best. Said the best is coming
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to me. I hope for thebest. How do you know that?
Because I look at me? Lookat me? Are you happy to?
And then when I say happy todayand I mean happier? Do you know
this? Orr? In two years, are we gonna sit down and say
big I sent to representatives? Istill have thought. I still get thought.
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No, I don't get it.Yeah, that's real. I get
I think about I did it afew times in here thinking back. I
was triggered. But that's healthy thatI went through that to the I can
laugh about it. But yeah,that's that was something you did, homie.
Did you ever think even earlier onthat if you smiled, if you
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did, some other people would thinkthey could play you soft, and you
had to always smile. You beatyour He always smiled, Floyd Maywell always
smiled, and he a beach Tysonsmiles, vulnerable Tyson Tyson cry and everything
in front and a man bite youroff. Yeah yeah, yeah, that
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type of like he played a win. Is it scary to to figure that
out or is it ant likening tofigure that out? Like, man,
I ain't with all. I'll tellyou right now, big brother, I
don't want to fight because man,you're gonna probably push that ink pin at
me and everything, like when Isay, there you go, that's what
it's grandfather to tell you. Hey, the white people, you know how
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they fight? Yeah? Man,huh they fight. They fight with that
ink pin. Yeah, with theirlegs crossed with coffee and don't and they
wanted, but it's a price.Then you see how hard you hit when
they swinging in that ink pin atyour mother. Let me see, let
me see how let me see howgood you fight? They fight with that
ink pin. Let me see howgood you fight? Yeah, because you
know that'd be the first thing,bro, that'd be the first, Yeah
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I did. I beat him onetime and I was uh, operating out
of fear and he was operating outof ego. And I had this feel,
if I talk to me crazy,I'm gonna dive in your I'm gonna
dive dead in your face. Andhe got the talking crazy because I ignored
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him. Well he really was,he really was a fan, but I
ignored him. He got a talkingcrazy and I dove in his face and
pushed that ink, paying at me. He had a mouthful of gold teeth.
Hell yeah, he had a mouthfulof gold teeth. Mm hmm yep,
and you pay for every one ofthem. He pushed that ink,
pining at me. I had topay him so he didn't tell on man
court. I had to pay tohave that matter resolved. I don't even
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want that in my mouth no more. It doesn't even mean what it used
to me. You got silence inyour mouth, but you're not silent.
Is there anything, bro that youlook back on and say, man,
I thought when you had, Ithought when you had I thought when you
had like last time you seen me, I had a mouthful of silence.
I thought that when you had silencein your mouth, that mean you was
rocking solid. When you had amouthful of platinum and diamonds, you was
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platinum. You was platinum. Andthen you realize, mhmm. Do you
ever look back on anything? Theytricked me and not publicly have to say
it, but do you ever wishyou could either apologize? I burnt a
lot of bridges my ego and feelI burned a lot of bridges for them,
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bridges they had to burn. Itain't that it's like uh like like
I burned a lot of bridges becauseI was standing on false morals and principles.
But at the end of the day, but did you know you were
standing on false morals and Princeville everybody. But it's so beautiful because it was
spiritual. Because everything that I thoughtI wanted to be around, y'all up
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and do stuff, and everybody aroundy'all get up. So I'm really was
blessed. My spirit knew you wasif I burn if I if I killed
you your more and raised you right. Do you ever walk around and do
you ever walk around and for noreason just start smiling? Sorry, hey
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man, do you ever walk aroundand just start smiling because you figured out?
You figured out something? Yes?Like like like they had orders like
like naw in my life that Ididn't. I done got over the uh,
the pride and the and the feelof rejection like that. I reached
out the orders and asked them towork with them. And they always give
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me the run around. But thenwhen I be saying, I just be
smiling like they and they know youyou and but and they know I did
it for you. I did itfor you. Man, what y'all you
don't owe me nothing. I'm doingthis out my heart. But when it's
my turn, yeah, amen,And without saying any name. But at
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the same time, nah, itain't no need to say no, no
what I'm about to ask because tobe honest, it's at a point now
I wouldn't want to try a positionwith you because you know what you gotta
do. You gotta take care ofeverybody around you. You can't know what
about yourself and what I was goingto ask, and this is just a
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no any names. Do you haveany soul called genre hip hop friends who
mean? Yeah, yeah, it'speople I respect. I respect. I'm
talking because see when I see you, I always see you kind of like
walking solo and you never hear likea crew and people that it's people that
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reach out to me. It's crazybecause the people that everybody will say is
the worst people be the people thatare called me and check on me for
no reason. But the people atthe world be like, man, that
good and all that right, mhm hm, he my fault. You
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forgive me, So that's sorry.But I don't do all that saying names
and all of those. That's whyI didn't ask, because to be honest,
it wouldn't even matter. I'll justbe really, I'm so man,
I'm so lit man, I'm soturned up right now. If I said
now, I'm gonna have them inan l right man, leave on a
flat you eating. I'm so necessary. I am so not sorry. Kevin
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Gates, my brother, Thank youfor coming into the neighborhood. Bro,
thank you for having me. Amen. I can't believe that again, I'm
back in the gated community. Ican't believe that it's been like five or
six years since we sat down.Man. Energy, I'm telling you,
Bro, your energy has been presentin here. Bro. You know how
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they got people that that that's that, that's that's fake happy. So every
time you say that, but yourayes tell a different story. Your eyes
don't make your smile. See,I still have See I let people know
that I have dub days. Ido human being. I have tough days.
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One of the most beautiful things Ido is I get up and go
to the gym. That's sterrapy forme. I'm gonna get all that stuff
about me now my day beautiful.So now I ain't tripping out at the
store who said the wrong thing tome. I don't get no beeping at
me in trade, fine, fire, shut the up. I don't care
about you. Yeah, I'm justdriving. It's just it's beautiful because I
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still have tough days. Easily smallme off and then I gotta just tell
myself, man, Kevin hold on, man, you you talk to yourself
a lot all day. I knowI do. Hey, I said on
that cartel swag I say, Isay fun fact about Kevin Gates. I
talk to myself. All geniuses talkto themselves. That's how I process and
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work my way through. Man.I talked to myself. I procrastinate.
If I don't talk to myself,I will sit at the house and I'll
be a runt man. Will continueto work on you, bro, what
was easy? It's hard for me. That's why for myself, because I
hold myself accountable. People with what'seasy. Yeah, they do. See
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people say that you hard to dealwith because you're not easy to fool,
right. I don't know what's wrongwith big boy man, And I had
to learn that too. Yeah.Man, they got a book called The
Subtle of Not Giving Yes Easy Call. I said so much free. I'll
be, like I said, freelybecause all you can do is all you
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can do. If I know Idid my best, I wouldn't up with
you, man, And that's howI move. And I tell people sometimes,
man, if you lost me,it's your fault. It is if
you lost me to say about youdon't determine how I with you. Only
you could determine that. So youman, you ever thought about the book
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or you still live in the pages, I would, but you go,
just take some of my little dailywisdom of my quotes and motivation and make
it a book. Yeah, becauseeverything. One thing I pride myself on
being is a skeptic. I wasabout to go to a Buddhist church.
I went to a Buddhist church theother day because you know, they just
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did their New Year. I gotsome people that's bullish and then you go
to show you how how with people. They just loved me. They invited
me over there, but it waslike an hour away, and I was
like, you know what, whenI come over here by y'all, I
like the energy. They was like, all we do is pray. All
we do is pray here. Isay, it's so peaceful. They was
like, yeah, peaceful and verypowerful. I was like, I know,
(39:52):
I could feel it, and Iwas really about to go because that's
just me, Like I want tosee show me cause you know, like
I say, the old systems thatI had in place, they didn't really
work out that well, right,I like these new systems, but at
least you got something to compare themto too, you know. And I
(40:14):
tell people, I say, man, that's tuition into the school of experience.
And you paid a lot of tuition. You know what I'm saying.
You can't tell somebody something. Youknow, Man, you got to let
people crash the car. And Igotta be the message that I bring.
Man, Like, if I'm tellingyou this but I ain't looking like it
and I ain't showing you, thenI'm just talking if you ain't living it.
Yeah, I want to be everythinglike like you see, like them
(40:38):
them billionaires, like will I bemeeting them, Like a lot of the
young billionaires be tagged up by it. Be right, being a fitness,
they be investing, they just befly. They just everything be on point
with them. And it's I don'tthink they be addicted to the money.
I think they be addicted to likeself improvement. They always trying to get
(41:00):
better in every way, like anykind of body. Heck, like the
I be meaning some young because likebillionaires, it'd be jumping off private JITs
like you will never know who theyare. They just fly, but they
fly and they really they committed tolike success. I just be meeting them.
It's like and I was like,for me to be attracting this,
(41:20):
now, I must have opened myselfup. I must be giving off a
different energy. So it's beautiful likeyou all with you a track, you
all with you a track. Inoticed like since I really started saying I
don't want no distractions, like alot of the most beautiful distractions been coming.
(41:42):
But that's how it is. It'sa beautiful distraction because it's not connected
to no source. It's only herethe trying energy for me. Beautiful distractions
come when you start getting focused.Yeah, it could be anything. It
could be somebody giving you false promises. It could be somebody giving you a
business opportunity. Sir, I'll takea meeting, but I don't like to
have meetings about meetings. That's apart of you not getting that's part of
(42:14):
you saying no, I'm not goingto share my ideas and all that with
you, and all that I'm nottaking meetings about meetings. Oh man,
Kim, I love you, bro, Yes, sir, I'm sincere.
I love you for real. Thankyou from the moment I ever first met
you. Like with all these otherlike interviewers and people, you never demonized
(42:39):
me. You never came after mefor clout. You was always genuine with
me. It's not that many peoplein this industry that have been genuine with
me like that. I'm in it. I'm not of it. I'm so
I just want to tell you Ilove you for real. Like by the
time you asked me, could youcome to my house, I say,
he just take your shoes off andcome feel the energy, Yes, sir,
and I'm going to do that.I meant that and I stand on
(43:00):
that to this day, Like ifI love you, I'm gonna get out
the bed at three m in themorning for you. It's rappers out here
that know that. Hey man,I remember we were talking about the Boxers
and I remember keV you just hadyour hand like this and you was like
it was hard for you to Ican't do it. And it was like
because I can't watch do you rememberthat? Like he know, I know.
(43:20):
I can't watch him fight. Ican't watch you, and why is
that? I love you too much? I can't watch it. That's like
I just had to go to theChaicullae Stevenson fight. I'm at a level
not to realize that it's okay.This highest supposed to go. But I
can't. That's Devin Hannes. Ican't just watch you just fight, yeah,
man, like I'm getting better,Hey, dude. It was hard
(43:44):
for me because I love boxing,and I love boxing as a spectator.
When I don't have a relationship withthat, I love it. And then
Fernando Vargas became like my partner andit was totally different watching Fernando Vargas fight,
Like I love him. He don'teven know it. I just love
him. I wouldn't never let nobodyheart him. I love him. Watch
(44:07):
this from the house, man,I got to watch this from the house.
I don't know it, just hejust I look at the type of
ks and he's just he reminds meof me. He just make you love
him. And I ain't never methim, but I just love it.
A man well on the reil broI love you. I love you,
man. I just wanted to saythat because a lot of people use that
(44:28):
term like and I didn't got tothe point to where I don't stop saying
it, like I stopped saying itwhen I don't mean it. But like
I love you, I mean that, man, thank you, brother.
And I'm telling you man, Ialways that's like energy. I hate to
bring this dude name up, butI love him because a lot of people
(44:51):
don't like him. But that's likeCharleston White, I love him, man,
I love it. Yeah, bro, amen, I can't I love
I can't help who I love.I love man. Yeah, and my
man, that's it. I don'tknow if that's a character, but that's
him. Man. I take it. And whatever Charleston White say, I
don't lose sleep. I love him. I don't lose sleep like when I
(45:15):
he said about me, Oh,really come out that man, Kevin Gates.
Y'all pray for Kevin Gates. Man, I go back and laugh at
it now. Been acting strange sincehe came out and said that. I
say, I didn't catch that.Yeah, but I just told him.
I say, man, listen,I ain't even mad at you. I
(45:36):
love you. I said if yousay I'm making strange I don't drink no
more, I don't smoke no more. I go to the gym. I
don't have no security. I amfree, and I'm ready for death.
I'm ready for death whenever it comesto me. That is the greatest That
is the greatest blessing any man couldreceive. It's a beautiful death. And
I can scare out of somebody else. Nah. I mean I guess that
(46:00):
other people that are scared to die. But you know, we know the
truth. But like, and Ijust told him, I love you.
So if you feel like I'm makingstrangth, that's cool. I don't do
any drugs. I might be geekedup off the coffee here and now I
gotta have I gotta have a doubleshot. And that's just me before every
interview, I gotta hit me inthe coffee. Man. I appreciate you,
(46:22):
Bro, I appreciate you. Thereit is man Kevin Gates in the
neighborhood. Big Boys,
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