August 24, 2023 • 46 mins
90's band McBride & The Ride has reunited with new music, the EP "Marlboros & Avon". Hear these wildly talented musicians/vocalists/songwriters tell the hilarious backstories of their early success as we highlight their impressive individual accomplishments, and showcase those rock solid harmonies.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, Hello, thanks for being here for Crook and Chase Nashville.
Chas Man, do we have some celebrating to do. Twenty
twenty three is the fortieth anniversary not only of Charlie
and I as a team, the Crook and Chase team,
but it's also the fortieth anniversary of the launch of TNN,
the Nashville Network. In so many ways, we and the
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music creators here in Nashville have come full circle in
all of that time. And Charlie, don't you think it
really attests to the staying power of nineties music, how
it reverberates to this day.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, and also the professionalism of the artists involved too,
because they know how to maintain I guess that's the
word to use, maintain fan loyalty.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Absolutely well. One of the most exciting things happening lately
is the return of a band that we met back
in the nineties, McBride and the Ride. They are back
together after more in thirty years. They have a new
EP called Marl Burrows and Avon.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Is that is that nostalgic or what what is nostalgic? Man?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Great music on this EP, So we have to kind
of let you in here on these fabulous band members
Terry McBride, the McBride, McBride and The Ride.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Now, besides a solo.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Career, he has been such a prolific and award winning songwriter,
penning hits for Brooks and Dunn, Garth Brooks, George strait
Reeba Hank Junior. And that's literally the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Any big names. Billy Thomas Saw, on the other hand,
has been the drummer for Vince Gill for a number
of years. Ray Herndon has been part of Lyle Love's Ben.
Ray's got a great radio voice. You gonna hear it
in a minute, but he's been a part of Lyle Love.
It's Ben. These guys are just true pros, you know.
And but they here's a big deal. They've stayed friends
all these years. Yeah, although not working together right.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, And you know, we as Criok and Chase have
something in common with McBride and The Ride. They and
we were individually put together by industry visionaries. They buy
music producer Tony Brown and of course Crook and Chase
by television producer Jim Owens. Now until they recently rebanded
and came to visit us. We did not realize the
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significance that our Crook and Chase show had on the
career of McBride in the ruck.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
You know, in a lot of cases, Lerie and we
just don't see it because we're too involved, We're too
focused on Yeah, we just don't feel the impact. But
you don't. Getting together with these guys, it was like
no time had passed it all.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Check it out, hey, Charlie, you know seriously, Yeah, I mean, guys,
we all have the same story. We were all put
together by a producer who saw us individual and forty
years later, I know here.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I was saying, I mean, you guys, that was the
very first moment where we realized we were doing something,
you know, because we used to go over and do
the Crook and Chase shows over there. I mean, that
was our very first I remember our manager had a
Limo Kids Stills back in the day, and we were
driving it ourselves because that's how we got around and
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Chase makeup. We're at the gas station pumping gas into
our own limo with our pancake makeup for these guys.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
So you didn't make him drive you in the back
of it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
We took turns in that level.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
It was so much fun.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
That is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, leaving that studio.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
But when we left there, like wow, you know, we're
we're we're finally making it.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Something's happening because Fanfaretery and I pull up in a
limo and we're driving it ourselves.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Those shows great and embarrassing story to.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Begin with, pumping their own gas to.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Okay, speaking of memories, you guys were doing crooking chase.
You also to Music City tonight with you, Yes, and
you you guys should just returned from East Tennessee, where
I'm from my neck of the woods up there. Oh yeah,
and you had been to.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Newport and we got a little something.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You brought me some hoot.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And our bus driver.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
At the time, Yeah, his family was making that, I
remember well.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And he's still bringing it to us last week.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, everybody's family was brewing up there. What are you thinking?
But you know about thirty minutes later, you're speaking a
new language called slur.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
We made the mistake of giving John Michael Montgomery jar
of that, and we had no idea he was gonna
drink it all that day. End of the night, he
was hanging onto a guy wire singing his hits to
the crowd.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
We went, oh.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Yeah, we felt so bad.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But I went, he's an adult, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Well they first started, remember they first started coming on
the bus. They came up that one day, and then
a little while later they were back and oh yeah,
for the jar went from full to that much.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Prepared for what was in that jar.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, if I go, because we have the archives, So
if I go back through our show archives, would I
notice that you guys are tipsy.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
The funny thing is I didn't drink.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Okay, well, it would be one of their better performances.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
We'd get through the song, all the way through it,
all the way.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
We would go down the road.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
These guys would be having a ball. We all were
having a ball. But I was filming mainly on the
bus and I still have all that.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
It was when that first little handicam came out, you know,
and so I just took it and I filmed everything,
all the bus antics and.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
He's threatened us with.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
How much money you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
We had a we had a dartboard on the bus,
so when we were traveling for miles after show, we'd
played bus darts and trail. Yeah, and you know, have
a few cocktails, and that was our past time. After
so much fun.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
My god, roll down the road with we rehearsed.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
On the bus.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
We'd set up steal and everything in the early days especially, we.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Go down the road and it's certainly was home.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
We got out in Arizona and Las Vegas that we
had a bus from Texas with nowhere conditioning. They went
out about the time we got on tour. So we're
in our whatever, stripped down to whatever, rehearsing and playing.
We built a little cardboard vents to throw air out
on us because it was brutal, but yeah, it really was,
that's exactly what was happening. But we were still it
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was so much fun. We were just getting started. Everything
was so fun, you know, exciting, especially the crooked Chase
shows that we're seeing. Those are popping up everywhere, little snippets. Yeah,
we have all that from our early early performances of
you know, just us doing our you know, three piece
acapella type things. And yeah, it was so.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Exciting getting up at seven in the morning and radio stations.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
And they're still doing that.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
I think I looked the backstage thing where where Charlie
would always have a joke, Always have a joke.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I mean he probably has one now, you just can't say.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Do you remember he would never even say hello when
you walked backstage. You would just walk up to you
and start firing off the latest Jeff.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
So much fun.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, I know, some trash right now that you know,
we're having fun talking about the early days here. We
have a segment on our show each week called the
Platinum Era of country music, called it nineties. At nine.
Of course, you guys started to think of what eighty nine?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
So like, yeah, first single was ninety okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
So you're basically a class of eighty nine. LORI and
I the class of eighty three. But all through the
nineties it's a whole different ballgame than what it is now.
There was no TikTok, There was no internet savvy stuff
that you could use to promote your music of that fun.
So was it more difficult I guess it was to
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make yourselves hits back then?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Well, you were limited for sure, you know, I mean
you had to go door to doortown to town's best.
You could hope for radio, a little bit of television,
and still stopping at those truck stops to use the payphone.
You know, we had that one big block cell phone.
The only problem was there were no towers out in
Kansas wherever we were to reach it, you know, so
we still had to get up at six and make
those those radio calls at a truck stop. But you
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know that's changed to say the least. But you know,
going back and just thinking about what we've done, we've
talked about social media has been a big played a
big role in what we're doing now, even TikTok. I mean,
who knew, you know, those fans are out there, but
they are, and we.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Had we had a big machine behind us too at
the time, MCA records of course, sure, which we didn't
have to do everything like we are now. So now
we are to answer your question, we're how do we
get back out there on our own without a record
label and a lot of you know a lot of
acts are doing that. The big acts still have labels.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And one thing I want to point out you talked
about all like getting stopping at a truck stop and
calling the radio station. Wonder just do you you guys
re mainstream everybody was having to do it. Oh, it
wasn't just you, guys.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
No, No, it was a way of life, and if
you wanted to be in it, you had to be
willing to do it, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
That was the thing.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I mean, they'd call us and go, do you want
to do the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade? And we thought
about it, like, wow, Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
If you don't, somebody else is going.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
You know, we'll do it, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
But yeah, there were.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Opportunities too in the nineties, Like it was incredible. I mean,
if you were having some success, there were all kinds
of opportunities, movies and cool things that we got to
be a part of. One of the coolest things we
got to be a part of. We were out in
California and we were sitting June of ninety two, our
little single, Sacred Ground was sitting at number two behind
Achy Breaky Heart that year that's summer of all.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
The songs wo to be stuck behind.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
But then lo and behold, somehow that song burned and
we got into number one. The first thing we did
was we were you guys reached out for your radio show,
you know, your Countdown show, and you featured number one
artists each week, and.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
We were so excited.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
We were just remember that we played that Honkey TNK
out there. Sure worked our way to Michigan I think
the next night.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
But so exciting, very humbling. When we got there to
the gig, it said tonight live band. Yeah yeah, and
we just had a number one record crowd.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
That's exactly right, good yeah, the good old Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
But you know, that does bring up a really interesting question,
what in your minds, what was magical about those early years.
You had to have been learning a lot about the business,
about yourselves.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
And very it was a very quick It came so
quick with Tony Brown being involved and bringing us and that,
like Ray said, that big machine coming together and all
of what they put into play, all of the promotion.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
That came around. I mean it was we were sitting
on a bus.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
The next thing you know, we've got the head of
promotion and regionals out there going.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Okay, you're going on a West coast tour.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Right now, and you're going to go sing And we
would go or Texas or you never knew what you
were going to do.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
We would go early on on that radio tour. It
was like a two week radio tour. So wasn't it so?
I just went on forever actually, and we were on
a bus across the country going to all these radio
stations and schmoozing with them in the mornings for breakfast, lunch,
and dinner. I think I got put on thirty pounds.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Two were three stations a day, whatever we could.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
But you guys were tight knit. Yeah, we were close.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
We were really close. And it's interesting because, like you
mentioned earlier, we were put together by our producer, Tony Brown.
Billy was with Emmy Lou, Harris Ray was with Law
Love It. I just left Delwrit McClinton and I was
focusing on my songwriting coming to Nashville, trying to get
a George straight cut. That's what I was, you know,
wanting to do. I'm still trying to get one.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Next week George.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Is going in and all are they tell me I'm
gonna get I'm but I'm still trying to do that.
But but Tony had a vision and he's great at
putting things together, because that's what producers do. You know.
It's like, I got some guys in mind, and you'll
be the you know, you'll be the guy who're gonna
build it around your songs. You're writing you know, but
I got some guys and so anyway, he introduced me
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to Billy.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
We went.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
We met at Elliston Place, uh and I had a milkshake.
We shared a milkshake, two straws one.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
It wasn't like that.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
No, no, no, no, no, Terry, it was not It
was too separate.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
It wasn't let me have my memories, Billy, you have years.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I have say the worst scenario, three straws.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Luckily I wasn't here.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And only and only two guys.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
That's really missed up, you know, were so lonely.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
We're hoping somebody will stop by a terrible.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
And then Ray.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I met Ray down in Austin and I love it
was playing the Paramount Theater.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
But the cool thing was we hit it off, you.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Know, personally, still all these years later, we still we're
still hitting it off. We're still having fun.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
When people say, what do you know, how's it going
out there? I said, well, we laugh a lot and
play a little bit of music, because that's kind It.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Helps you talk about hitting it off.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
We just had the same. Tony Brown introduced us a
week ago downtown for an EP release. He brought us
song and said, I know these guys we've been friends.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
He was so good.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
It was like, man, oh man, at just the town
we had people we made relationships with personally.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
So you reassemble after all these years, you remain friends
over the years. Ausness set that up. But I think
it was in twenty twenty one you issued a warning,
I'm sorry, made the announcement that you guys were getting
back together.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Man, is a huge step here.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You're missing a huge step because there are new generations
of fans who are digging on you guys, and they
want to know and we want to hear again this
magical thing was happening. Why did it disband in ninety five?
What do you tell the new generation before we get
to the coming back together?
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Well, I think there's a lot of things also at
the nineteen ninety five where you're pulled on in a
lot of different ways. It's happened to us times, you know, Oh,
you know it, just the business can pull you in
different directions, and we decided that was the best thing
to do at that time.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
All right, So McBride and the ride, Terry McBride is
being is very polite. I will say that back in
the mid nineties, some powers that be made some personnel
changes in the band. That happens a lot in this town.
So all three of the guys, Terry McBride, Billy Thomas,
and Ray Herndon all went their separate ways, became very
successful musicians, but they always remained friends.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Indeed, So up next the story of how McBride and
the Ride recently got back together after more than thirty years.
And as you'll hear, the good times are still rolling
for these guys. What was the spark that got you
back together again?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Well, I was out touring doing some solo singer songwriter
shows around the country. I went out to Phoenix, where
Ray's always been grew up in Scottsdale, and I played
his beautiful a musical instrument museum theater out there. I
invited Ray to come out and he did. Then I
got him up, you know, to sing and play, and
the crowd loved it and we loved it. And then
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Ray was like, the next day's like, man, we're still
young enough, we should be doing let's call it Billy
it Dog got it.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
And so that started the whole and I was hit
checking on the side of our forty and they just
kind of picked me up.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
So it's raisfault.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I'll take the blame.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It's raisfall.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Back in the two we cut an album called Amerilla
Sky and Ray was kind of the catalyst behind that.
He's like, man, we should you know, we should get together.
We did a benefit I think for Kising Ronnie or something.
We got together and saying anyway, it got some interest
and it is.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
That's interesting talking about no social media. Even in two
thousand and two when we recorded the Amrollo Sky record
with Matt Rollings was producing it and we recorded that
out in Franklin at his little house studio. But it
was such a fun project. We had such a great time.
But at the time there was no social media, no
way to get it out other than to go back
to radio. And we had a little label, Duel Tone Records,
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and they were trying to do that and they were trying,
but they and we went out and played a couple
of shows. We played a show with Blake Shelton early
on and he was a big fan. It was cool,
but the radio wasn't you know, the radio was becoming
kind of they didn't know what to do with themselves.
So we released a song that we recorded called Squeeze Box.
(16:22):
I'm playing you, but squeeze Box obviously the old Who song.
We recorded a cool version of it and we did
a great video with it, and radio said, oh, it's
too ResQue for country radio, and all of a sudden,
outcome save a horse, Ride a Cowboy. So it's like,
you know, it was hard to really figure.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Out Box Daddy, We're trying to do something different. We
had a country song called anything That Touches You that
did chart. We had a little a little success in
pockets and places. You know how it is and how
radio can work for an independent that's really what they were.
But we found that song Emeralds Guy. We thought, man,
this is a hit, you know, and then of course
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it went on to be a big hit for Jason
Eldan later. But we couldn't convince them. They thought it
was maybe just a Texas song, you know, at the time, but.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Had had there been TikTok at the time. It was
such a great record and we were ready to get
out there again. It just that's what's happening now.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
We're connecting with this audience. It's either the original fans.
A lot of times it's the children of the original fans,
and then it's the unknown who you're just discovering us
through whatever means.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
And that's what we're seeing now is multiple like generations,
you know, people my grandparents.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Who loved you. Guys.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Really, how surprise were you to get the call though
from these two guys saying hey, we've been on stage together.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
I wasn't surprise.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
It was Ray that actually reached out to me and said, hey,
would you be interested?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
I said, hell, no, there's only two. There's only two
straws here this time.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Back to memories, memories, dream.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
I ended up in place all by myself, the soda shop.
I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Was it chocolate stravanella?
Speaker 8 (18:07):
It wasn't vanilla Billy.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
I still can see the sun coming through the windows
just as he Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
All right, so who named this ep? Marlboroughs Navon?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Well, the we got that song through a guy in
Texas through Facebook. He sent me a message like, hey, Terry,
big fan, I think this song would be cool for
McBride and the Ride. You know, if you guys are
doing something. And it was Marlboro's Navon. I mean he
already had the time, he already had the song. He
let us go in and tweak it a little bit.
We did a little something to make it more fit us,
(18:39):
just a little bit better. But we love that idea
from that generation. You know, I'm a seventies teenager, and uh,
that's really it hit home for me. I mean, songs
that they should hit hit you somewhere. That one did.
I could picture all of those little images that he
had laid out there, that small town tracks.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Just nostalgic read between the lines and everything else. Now, man,
no former smoker. Okay, I'll admit a former smoker. Nothing
better than a freshly lit cigarette. But what was your
favorite Avon product?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I say, I can say when I lived here, skin
so soft because it keeps the mosquitoes out.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I'll handle this, Charlie. It does again Ray's fault.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I couldn't stand. I couldn't stand the smell of off
or any of that stuff. And somebody told me when
I was living in Nashville, and you know, the mosquitoes
are not the friendlist here by means they said you
should try skin, so I'll get some. Sure enough, it
worked and actually smelled pretty good.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And that's why I really kept business.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
That's right, yeah, mine, I guess would be the talcom
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
We don't want to go there.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Can we all agree and admit here that ray looks very.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Skin so soft. It is definitely paying off.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I still use it to this day.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That's just chronic exfoliating, that's all.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I've received several these Avon bottles that came in different There's.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
A car, the Cowboy on a Horse.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I have that one thanks to my friend here in
town that gave me a couple of those right away.
But yeah, I wasn't that familiar with Avon other than
everybody Billy's mom had sold some maybe sixty. There's tons
of those stories out there.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
But yeah, where they had the parties and all that stuff, Yeah,
you got.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
It just clicked.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
You know, we've sung, we've had themes over the years,
but it just felt like something for where we're at
in our career, our lives, our age appropriate other than
just you know, going to a honky talk and hitting
on somebody. That just didn't feel like where we need
to go down that path again. You know, we've done
that sort of thing, and we still love a good
honkey talk song. I mean, don't get me wrong, but
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and there was a couple on this album of course
with this EP, but that just felt like something that
was would fit us for now moving forward and what
we could really you know, and it lent itself well
to the harmonies, which we're always looking for songs.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Like that, and that song really sort of kicked off
the opportunity for us to go in the studio and record.
So we found some.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Other songs, including song until that one.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, including you know, a few that Terry had written,
co written, and the Honky Talk song, which is We've
gotten a lot of mileage out of that one.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Here classic which we've been doing since ninety one, which
I found on a cassette we were putting the band
back together. I don't throw anything away. I still have
a whole box of our cassettes that were pitched to
us in the nineties. I mean, Achy Breaky Heart's on there.
Two of a kind of working on a full house.
They pitched a set song, remember, and those are all
still there, including this little white cassette that said nineteen
(21:37):
ninety one San Angelo, Texas Santa Fe junction and it
had that Honkey Talk song. The web Pierston and we
sounded so good on that cassette, just a board tape,
you know. But I brought up the guys and said, man,
I almost forgot we used to do this, but boy,
it sounds good. And so that gave us a couple songs.
Then we were off and running after that.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
And we just and we've just recorded two more and
we're going in the studio.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah right, and we leave.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Here's some background vocals, Ronnie Mills at the studio today
is where we'll be working, which you're excited about. It's
a great room and doing background.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Recorded a Christmas song, so which we've never done Christmas song.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
You've already recorded it.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yeah, we're putting back.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Ye, So still doing something new.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, Bride and the Chipmunks.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
Exactly Christmas time is he Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
And he likes it too.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, yeah, he really likes it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I'm curious about something. So since ninety five you all
went your separate ways. I'm sure still remain friends, but you, individually,
with your talents enormous talents, became so successful on your
own writing songs, working with other artists.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
So having had.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
This plethora of experience in the in the business, what
how do you describe, like, let's start with right, how
do you describe how those experiences bring something different to
McBride and the Ride than you ever had before.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Well, I think the main word there is just the experience,
just doing more of it all these years. The whole
time I was living in Phoenix when we first started
McBride and the Ride, and then when we split up
in ninety two, I thought, you know, I got to
get mind but to Nashville and start writing and maybe
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pursue a solo deal the whole thing. So I moved
here and did a lot of writing, a lot of
session work, so all those experiences, and I know the
guys are the same way. I also kept playing with
Lyyle Lovit as well and on some of his recordings,
so keeping our foot in the business in that way
as players and singers. I think all that experience now
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because we're producing this music ourselves and co writing it
and playing on it, which we always played on it.
I was going to say earlier that that's part of
what Tony's draw was to all of us, is not
only he didn't know about the singing part. He didn't
know we had the harmonies. He knew we were all players,
and I had played on all that Lyle Evitt, the
early Lyle stuff, and Billy was Emilu and Vince and
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Terry had done all this stuff. He'd done bass player,
Billy being the drummer, and me being a guitar player.
Tony was like, Oh, these guys are actually could be
a real band. So all these years later, so yeah,
we've used that experience of not only playing together, but
playing in other situations, being involved in recordings, writing songs.
It's all come together now, these many years later to
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help us be able to produce these songs and you know,
come up with hits sounding records.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
What do you think, What do you think about what
you're bringing different to the band now?
Speaker 7 (24:48):
I think this time around won is patience, which I
think as a big deal with because of COVID, because
the business has changed, I realized, and I'm very grateful
for jumping in the middle of a city that was
on fire. I moved here from Los Angeles in the
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nineteen eighty seven and I had two people I knew,
and both of those people turned out to be incredible.
It was like a Cinderella story for me. I got
work with Vince Gill. He was one of the first
people I knew in this city.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
And I had never met him before.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
And then there was another person, Richard Bennett, who got
me involved with playing around sessions, and I started playing
with Marty Stewart on his recordings.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
That's where I met Tony Brown Rock. Oh yeah, I
played on that and it was just like the town
opened up.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
So I really didn't realize the waiting list that was
here in this town. This time around, getting back to
where we are now, it's making me see all three
of us and that we all are serious enough and
we all love this business and love making music. Bottom
line together that we'll get in a Superperberman and go
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down the road. And it's a different kind of different
style of doing what we do, but we haven't lost
the love.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
It's still there. We'll sit and sing in the.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
And we're doing it all ter That's the other thing.
We're able to do what we want to do and
but yet stay true to what this band is and
what it was thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I can tell and listening to this EP, that you
really have fun doing this particular of music, Okay, especially
one true country music hockey talk song you mentioned earlier.
Any band that's ever played a honckey talk has a
nightmare story. Let's hear yours. Run oh man, think you're
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right book, Let's see.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I remember playing a honkey talk out in near Ozona, Texas,
and this older gentleman wanted to come up and sing
and set out, and so we let him and he
started singing, and then he started choking for some reason,
any his false teeth out and they ricocheted off the
piano onto the dance floor, and then he dropped the
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mic to go hunt for his false teeth, and then
we went back to drinking and took a break right
after that.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
There was no way to follow that particular song. That's
that's a closer, that's that's not a drop, that's a
drop teeth moments, don't drop the.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Mic, dropped the mic, and his choppers.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
At the same time we had we had a story
that we played a little I think it was Colorado City, Texas,
and we were doing a sound check and our tour
manager at the time, I don't know if he'd been
drinking a little bit. I don't know for sure, but
a guy kept trying to get up on stage and
finally our tour manager would have nothing. Right before our eyes,
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he jumped on the guy just about five feet off
the ground. Yeah, on the ground, into the dust. We
thought he had killed the guy, and we were, you know,
of course horrified. Luckily he wasn't killed. He did get
fired from the radio station. He was at the guy
for trying to get up on stage with us.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Never a dull moment out there, I think, yeah, yeah,
the the these guys. I met two practical jokers that
were every bit as big a practical jokers as I
am and was back then, and we were out on
a radio tour and they got a key to my room.
I was in showering. I hadn't done anything to them.
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I was saying, that was that same.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Gig that was just talking about.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
So I'm in, I'm showering, I'm singing and getting ready
for the day.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And that is such b s.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
I can't do it anyways.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
The the the the next thing, there's a track of
cold water on meower, no clothesan'k open the the shower curtains,
run outside.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
Took off running and they're not there. They all of
a sudden, bam, the door shuts behind me.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Billy make away.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
Completely naked in the hallway and nobody's coming out. Finally
a family comes down the hallway and I find it
that I find a coke machine and I'm wedged up
against this coke machine.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Somebody, I think Ray threw a towel at me and.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Let me put family gut you the town.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Maybe maybe they did, so the story doesn't end. The
next time we're in town, we're doing Nashville now, and
Ralph Emery.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
Goes, well, anything, Billy, Billy, I hear something happened down
in Texas with you being naked in the hallway, and
it's Ralph, and I'm going, oh, leave.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Billy had never shared it with his family.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
None of that was how Ralph get the info.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
How do you think? Yeah, that's how I was set up.
So there I am going, well, question and then my wife,
of course at the time, she called you, I have
to find out that kind of crap on show?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Really?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
What was payback? Billy?
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Many years?
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Okay, we're all practical jokers.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
We just we did a lot of fun stuff out there.
We bungee jumped together. We've survived that. We've We've done
a lot of stuff on the road. But and uh,
and still here, still here to talk about it?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You asked.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
He did that?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
You thought that was funny. When we come back, McBride
and the Ride's most hilarious story ever about signing autographs
for fans.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Oh man, I love these memories. Also a taste of
their secret weapon in the recording studio, those killer harmonies.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
It's sup precious this thing. You don't know nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
The musicianship, the vocals, the experience. I think you're one
of the most solid bands in this town. I hope
people hear this music and enjoy it as much.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
As the excitement. I mean, wouldn't you think all?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I mean, Brothers Osborne gave us the biggest compliment a
couple of months ago.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
We were just.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Talking about how they seem to have this spark even
though they actually they fight a lot about music, but.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
That you know, that's a good thing because it makes
it good.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
And they gave us the compliment said, well, you know,
all these years later, we feel like you guys have
the same spark, and so also I'll pay the compliment
forward back to you all.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
It doesn't seem to be that there's anything.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Jaded or.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Kind of like, oh gosh, been there done that. This
just seems like it is totally fresh and exciting for
the three of you.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
It is exciting. We're excited about going to the studio today.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
We're excited about.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
This coming over here, just talking about you guys, because seriously,
you know, going back to our start, this is where
it all began for us. It was a full circle
moment here because the opportunities we got, really that little
studio over there. I remember the alley and going in
and getting make up that day, so excited our families watching.
You know, I still have all that on VHS tapes,
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all those shows.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
And so much has changed. I mean I was thinking
about y'all's show back then, and you know people that
we've lost all these years later, of course Ralph Emery,
but so many and we're all still here. So I
think that's the big takeaway for us as we're in
I like Terry said, when I went out to his
show at the at the Musical Instrument Museum, I was like, man,
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we're still all doing this. I have a club out
in Scottsdale that my family's owned for fifty years that
I own now. My mom passed in seventeen and I
bought it from my brothers and I run it. It's
an iconic place. It's where Waylon Jennings made his basic
start when he moved from Lovebock to Scott's Sanda. It's
called Handlebar Ja and it's an iconic cowboy restaurant and bar,
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and you know, so that's what I've been doing. But
when I went out to see Terry, I was like, man,
I'm still playing. Billy's still playing with Vince, and we're
still doing this. We got it while we're still able
and young enough to go out and like I said,
have some fun and have some laughs, because that's what
we do a lot of because you don't play music
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the whole time, so you got to find other stuff
to do. And we laugh a lot.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
So that's a big point.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
So here you are reunited and doing such great music,
but you're still keeping all of your individual work with
other artists. Is this going to be complicated for you
to figure out schedule?
Speaker 10 (33:43):
It is sometimes it we're good at, you know, staying
in touch with each other, and we've all discussed that,
like Billy will have the Christmas shows at the Rhymen
with Vince and Amy Com.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Yeah, we just that time off for us as things
start to slow down into the year anyway. So you know,
that's something Billy's been doing for the last thirty years,
so we understand that's important. And Ray is comes and
goes when he can because he is out there running
his venue. But it was the cool thing about getting
back together. Everybody's still been actively. We've all been doing things,
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so we didn't have to one talk anybody into doing
it or bring somebody up to speed like you need
to practice, you know, because everybody's been doing their own things.
It helped a lot.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
And you always block out Amazon Prime Day.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Billy was about to say something important.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
Let's find out it was on Prime Day.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
That's all what you think of right now?
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Well he did it. He dropped one on the bomb.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Good listen, since it's kind of a full circle thing,
you know. We we love to put you guys on
the spot heading to the studio, right, Okay, how do
you warm up vocals? And can you do it? Now?
You're talking about that harmony and harmony on the c
P and what would be a good one?
Speaker 7 (35:09):
Well, you want to do Marlboros and as or.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Of course, just do classics and lines or something.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
They're warm.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
This sang some me come lately.
Speaker 9 (35:27):
It's a precious thing. You don't know nothing bad. We
were joined in the eyes of the Lord, in the
eyes of fire, home Town.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Why don't you leave a long trial?
Speaker 6 (35:51):
See grass a song.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
About us, step or two. But there's the magic I'm
talking about that is special.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
They say the harmony bands are coming back and we're
going to spearhead that one.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
Yeah, you'd be surprised at how many young bands want
to know.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
How do you guys do that? And I said, well,
it's all natural.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
It's as natural as you sing with your family, that
same sort of deal.
Speaker 11 (36:22):
They sent us.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Up in a little studio. We rehearsed all day and
Steve Fisher was with us at the time. He was
our other member at that time, and we started practicing,
which was fun. But when we started working these harmonies out,
we went, oh, wow, we've got a whole extra bonus
because it sounds like we're just four piece band on
the road. Steal guitar. We have Bruce Bouten, an amazing
guitar player, that's steel guitar player that's played on hundreds
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of hits, and we're fortunate to have him on the road.
But what makes our band a little bit bigger are
those harmonies on every song. You know, we've got the
bonus of that three part. However, we want to use
them on the hits or the new stuff or whatever.
But sounds a lot bigger than looking at the band.
It's a small four piece, but it's a lot more
music than just that.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Well hard some of these clubs we've played recently, like
some of these guys don't even know who we are,
some of the club owners. And so we played a
place in Kansas City recently and the and there wasn't
a lot of people at the show because it was
a Thursday night, I believe, and there was some big
shebang going on downtown and so you know, we're competing
with that. We went out there and we did our show,
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did the show, and the owner was like, you guys seriously.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Got to have you back.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
So we got to you. So we'll be back there
in October.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
That's how we have to do it nowadays, because without
the radio, we have to kind of get out there and,
like we were saying, through social media, find our fans
and then try to, you know, get them to come
to the shows on the.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
Radio, you're either one epiphany or the other with people.
They either say, wow, you guys, we knew you could sing,
but we didn't know you could play too, or the vices.
We all knew you played with different people and you're
all great players, but that's the vocals. So I think
even back when we did our promotional tours with MCA
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that long ago, the thing we said, sure, are fine.
These guys brought their acoustic guitars and we sat on
stools just like we did on your show.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
The same thing.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
This will not be a surprise to you.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
We sit here every week with Lukecomb's, Thomas Rhett, Ashley McBride,
all of these people, who are you going for the
charts now? Over and over and over again. We don't
even bring it up. They talk about the artists, the songwriters, musicians,
the music of the nineties. There is something magical. That's why,
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speaking of trademarks, we trademarked the Platinum Era of country
music for nineties country because that is that's that little
pocket of time, kind of like the fifties was with Jones.
And yes, there is still something so magical, and I
think all three of you are proof that that era
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has something still so relevant and will be timeless.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Yeah, it's that group that's longing for those days and
remembering that music, and then it kind of left. Music
takes turns, you know, and goes different lanes and directions.
We've all seen it if you've been around long enough
these decades. Music changes, and it did for us. We
just sort of brought our country what I thought and
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we thought was country music to what was happening in
the nineties. You know, it was our version of country music.
It was in some ways it was, but it was
so vast back then. I mean you had everything from
Brooks and dun to Travis Tritt to Riding the Way
of Garth Brookston.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
It's all different.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
It was so the individually it was a little bit different.
There were tons of bands, as you can recall back
in the in that day as well, but it just
it connected in such a way.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
It was just so popular.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
It was.
Speaker 11 (40:01):
It was a movement that was just unstoppable and there
were messages in those songs, and we kind of country
music kind of went away from that for a while,
and now I think it's coming back to that.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Names Yes, with Luke Can't drop a name forty seriously
looking back through my forty plus years. The first time
I ever interviewed George Jones backstage at the Opry, he said, Darling,
country music ain't no fad, ain't never going to be.
He says, it's going to go its way. Artists will test,
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you know, push the envelope, test the boundaries. He said,
country music will always come back to what it should be. Yeah,
it's just exactly what you were talking about.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
It truly is now. You can see it where it
was talked about For a long time. It wasn't happening.
It was going down a certain path. And he left
a lot of you know, traditional kind of fans out,
you know, but that's why they're hanging onto this ninety
stuff and why we thought, if we're going to do something,
this might be a good time. If we can bring
them older fans along with us and find a few
newer ones, then we might have a few people to.
Speaker 11 (41:04):
Show Each time.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I want to put a plug in for someone who
became very very close to me, Jesse Culture, and I
just saw her. She just released a new record that
Margot Price produced, and so you know, just talking about
that era, well, her era, which was before Hours, and
she was the biggest selling country artist at that time,
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before she became involved with Whalon and the Outlaws record,
she was a bigger star than they were at first, right,
and so anyway, I just wanted to put a plug
in because she just released a record, she just got
married recently, and I went to her wedding. But she's
the best, and she's the epitome to a lot of these,
you know, today's artists and people like Tanya Tucker. They
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just look up to Jesse, you know, because she was
such an influential part of country music. She married a
cowboy in Wyoming. They're happy. And guess where they met Jay.
Speaker 7 (42:05):
Getting back to what George Jones said to you, that
comment I saw firsthand in nineteen eighty seven. Again, probably
with these guys, maybe with Vin Skill, I'm not sure.
But when I moved here from Los Angeles, the pop
world at that time there were deities and there were
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iconic people that you could not touch. You didn't get
backstage to see them, you never saw them out. And
about when I moved here and I went to fanfare,
I will never forget. It's touching me right now to
think about I was amazed that the every artist, or
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almost every artist, was not above going and mingling and
signing with their fans.
Speaker 6 (42:56):
I thought, that's unheard of.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
And they just totally amazed me that people would do that.
And I think that's what will endear and endure those
fans to those to every artist.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
And we went.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Right in it.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
We did it with with guards and all the rest
of them, those all day long.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Boy, Travis Sweat, excuse me, you were in the sheep bar.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Yes, boy, I definitely remember the go there one of
the one of the barns we signed, Well, you had.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
The poultry, all come on, hogs or sheep, we have
the sheep barn.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
I tried to stay away from the sheep barn.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
I'm an old f f A guy, Charlie, deep in sheep,
that's what we say down there.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Put on your blue jacket. I still got it.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
He's an f f A guy. I wore my jacket.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
We played an f A annual event in Belton, Texas.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
Okay, I'll have a good joke, but you don't know.
He's trying to back pad Charlie him.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
If you just turned three sheets Arod, three sheets now all.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Three sheeps to the wind.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
My first man trademark that Laurie.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
See if we can get that trademark.
Speaker 6 (44:16):
Well, you look at you've got trademark connections.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Let's get that one locked down right.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
Now here we go.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
You guys have to go have a recording session.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
Thank god, we've got some paperwork we gotta fill out this.
I'm keeping that three sheeps to the wind.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Win win w W I N.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
And Charlie, that is so good. Charlie.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
We call our attorney.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I'm afraid to.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
I'm telling you you can edit most of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
And thank god, this.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Has been a blast, I know, because we've got to
get a picture.
Speaker 8 (45:12):
Let's do it.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
When don't we got to end this.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Let's also let's all say tod one, two, three.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
They can't help it to talk.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
Three times again.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
It's not about being in a bar with that liquor.
You know, those guys are so funny. I mean, they
were like that as soon as they walked in the
studio with us.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
You know what excellent memories things that I had not
even realized that. I guess their very first television appearance,
national television appearance was on our show. And what an
honor to know that, to know that that we have
had even a small part in the careers of such
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amazingly talented people.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, Marl Burroughs and Avon. Now it's an EP. It's
got five songs on the air that I think you're
really going to like. It's true country music, let me
put it that way. Their vocals are just perfect as
they always have been, and I think you really enjoyed it.
It's good to see Terry and the guys again McBride.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
And we love those guys, and we love you out
there too. We have your country covered all the time.
Listen to the Crook and Chase Countdown every weekend on
hundreds of radio stations across America, also streaming on iHeartRadio
Speaker 2 (46:34):
And you can follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram
at Crook and Chase
Well, Hello, thanks for being here for Crook and Chase Nashville.
Chas Man, do we have some celebrating to do. Twenty
twenty three is the fortieth anniversary not only of Charlie
and I as a team, the Crook and Chase team,
but it's also the fortieth anniversary of the launch of TNN,
the Nashville Network. In so many ways, we and the
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music creators here in Nashville have come full circle in
all of that time. And Charlie, don't you think it
really attests to the staying power of nineties music, how
it reverberates to this day.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, and also the professionalism of the artists involved too,
because they know how to maintain I guess that's the
word to use, maintain fan loyalty.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Absolutely well. One of the most exciting things happening lately
is the return of a band that we met back
in the nineties, McBride and the Ride. They are back
together after more in thirty years. They have a new
EP called Marl Burrows and Avon.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Is that is that nostalgic or what what is nostalgic? Man?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Great music on this EP, So we have to kind
of let you in here on these fabulous band members
Terry McBride, the McBride, McBride and The Ride.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Now, besides a solo.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Career, he has been such a prolific and award winning songwriter,
penning hits for Brooks and Dunn, Garth Brooks, George strait
Reeba Hank Junior. And that's literally the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Any big names. Billy Thomas Saw, on the other hand,
has been the drummer for Vince Gill for a number
of years. Ray Herndon has been part of Lyle Love's Ben.
Ray's got a great radio voice. You gonna hear it
in a minute, but he's been a part of Lyle Love.
It's Ben. These guys are just true pros, you know.
And but they here's a big deal. They've stayed friends
all these years. Yeah, although not working together right.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Well, And you know, we as Criok and Chase have
something in common with McBride and The Ride. They and
we were individually put together by industry visionaries. They buy
music producer Tony Brown and of course Crook and Chase
by television producer Jim Owens. Now until they recently rebanded
and came to visit us. We did not realize the
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significance that our Crook and Chase show had on the
career of McBride in the ruck.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
You know, in a lot of cases, Lerie and we
just don't see it because we're too involved, We're too
focused on Yeah, we just don't feel the impact. But
you don't. Getting together with these guys, it was like
no time had passed it all.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Check it out, hey, Charlie, you know seriously, Yeah, I mean, guys,
we all have the same story. We were all put
together by a producer who saw us individual and forty
years later, I know here.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
I was saying, I mean, you guys, that was the
very first moment where we realized we were doing something,
you know, because we used to go over and do
the Crook and Chase shows over there. I mean, that
was our very first I remember our manager had a
Limo Kids Stills back in the day, and we were
driving it ourselves because that's how we got around and
(03:12):
Chase makeup. We're at the gas station pumping gas into
our own limo with our pancake makeup for these guys.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
So you didn't make him drive you in the back
of it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
We took turns in that level.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
It was so much fun.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
That is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, leaving that studio.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
But when we left there, like wow, you know, we're
we're we're finally making it.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Something's happening because Fanfaretery and I pull up in a
limo and we're driving it ourselves.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Those shows great and embarrassing story to.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Begin with, pumping their own gas to.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Okay, speaking of memories, you guys were doing crooking chase.
You also to Music City tonight with you, Yes, and
you you guys should just returned from East Tennessee, where
I'm from my neck of the woods up there. Oh yeah,
and you had been to.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Newport and we got a little something.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You brought me some hoot.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
And our bus driver.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
At the time, Yeah, his family was making that, I
remember well.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And he's still bringing it to us last week.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, everybody's family was brewing up there. What are you thinking?
But you know about thirty minutes later, you're speaking a
new language called slur.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
We made the mistake of giving John Michael Montgomery jar
of that, and we had no idea he was gonna
drink it all that day. End of the night, he
was hanging onto a guy wire singing his hits to
the crowd.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
We went, oh.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Yeah, we felt so bad.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But I went, he's an adult, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Well they first started, remember they first started coming on
the bus. They came up that one day, and then
a little while later they were back and oh yeah,
for the jar went from full to that much.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Prepared for what was in that jar.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, if I go, because we have the archives, So
if I go back through our show archives, would I
notice that you guys are tipsy.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
The funny thing is I didn't drink.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Okay, well, it would be one of their better performances.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
We'd get through the song, all the way through it,
all the way.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
We would go down the road.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
These guys would be having a ball. We all were
having a ball. But I was filming mainly on the
bus and I still have all that.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
It was when that first little handicam came out, you know,
and so I just took it and I filmed everything,
all the bus antics and.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
He's threatened us with.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
How much money you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
We had a we had a dartboard on the bus,
so when we were traveling for miles after show, we'd
played bus darts and trail. Yeah, and you know, have
a few cocktails, and that was our past time. After
so much fun.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
My god, roll down the road with we rehearsed.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
On the bus.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
We'd set up steal and everything in the early days especially, we.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Go down the road and it's certainly was home.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
We got out in Arizona and Las Vegas that we
had a bus from Texas with nowhere conditioning. They went
out about the time we got on tour. So we're
in our whatever, stripped down to whatever, rehearsing and playing.
We built a little cardboard vents to throw air out
on us because it was brutal, but yeah, it really was,
that's exactly what was happening. But we were still it
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was so much fun. We were just getting started. Everything
was so fun, you know, exciting, especially the crooked Chase
shows that we're seeing. Those are popping up everywhere, little snippets. Yeah,
we have all that from our early early performances of
you know, just us doing our you know, three piece
acapella type things. And yeah, it was so.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Exciting getting up at seven in the morning and radio stations.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
And they're still doing that.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
I think I looked the backstage thing where where Charlie
would always have a joke, Always have a joke.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
I mean he probably has one now, you just can't say.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Do you remember he would never even say hello when
you walked backstage. You would just walk up to you
and start firing off the latest Jeff.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
So much fun.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, I know, some trash right now that you know,
we're having fun talking about the early days here. We
have a segment on our show each week called the
Platinum Era of country music, called it nineties. At nine.
Of course, you guys started to think of what eighty nine?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
So like, yeah, first single was ninety okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
So you're basically a class of eighty nine. LORI and
I the class of eighty three. But all through the
nineties it's a whole different ballgame than what it is now.
There was no TikTok, There was no internet savvy stuff
that you could use to promote your music of that fun.
So was it more difficult I guess it was to
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make yourselves hits back then?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Well, you were limited for sure, you know, I mean
you had to go door to doortown to town's best.
You could hope for radio, a little bit of television,
and still stopping at those truck stops to use the payphone.
You know, we had that one big block cell phone.
The only problem was there were no towers out in
Kansas wherever we were to reach it, you know, so
we still had to get up at six and make
those those radio calls at a truck stop. But you
(08:18):
know that's changed to say the least. But you know,
going back and just thinking about what we've done, we've
talked about social media has been a big played a
big role in what we're doing now, even TikTok. I mean,
who knew, you know, those fans are out there, but
they are, and we.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Had we had a big machine behind us too at
the time, MCA records of course, sure, which we didn't
have to do everything like we are now. So now
we are to answer your question, we're how do we
get back out there on our own without a record
label and a lot of you know a lot of
acts are doing that. The big acts still have labels.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And one thing I want to point out you talked
about all like getting stopping at a truck stop and
calling the radio station. Wonder just do you you guys
re mainstream everybody was having to do it. Oh, it
wasn't just you, guys.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
No, No, it was a way of life, and if
you wanted to be in it, you had to be
willing to do it, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
That was the thing.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I mean, they'd call us and go, do you want
to do the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade? And we thought
about it, like, wow, Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
If you don't, somebody else is going.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
To do it.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
You know, we'll do it, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
But yeah, there were.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Opportunities too in the nineties, Like it was incredible. I mean,
if you were having some success, there were all kinds
of opportunities, movies and cool things that we got to
be a part of. One of the coolest things we
got to be a part of. We were out in
California and we were sitting June of ninety two, our
little single, Sacred Ground was sitting at number two behind
Achy Breaky Heart that year that's summer of all.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
The songs wo to be stuck behind.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
But then lo and behold, somehow that song burned and
we got into number one. The first thing we did
was we were you guys reached out for your radio show,
you know, your Countdown show, and you featured number one
artists each week, and.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
We were so excited.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
We were just remember that we played that Honkey TNK
out there. Sure worked our way to Michigan I think
the next night.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
But so exciting, very humbling. When we got there to
the gig, it said tonight live band. Yeah yeah, and
we just had a number one record crowd.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
That's exactly right, good yeah, the good old Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
But you know, that does bring up a really interesting question,
what in your minds, what was magical about those early years.
You had to have been learning a lot about the business,
about yourselves.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
And very it was a very quick It came so
quick with Tony Brown being involved and bringing us and that,
like Ray said, that big machine coming together and all
of what they put into play, all of the promotion.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
That came around. I mean it was we were sitting
on a bus.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
The next thing you know, we've got the head of
promotion and regionals out there going.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Okay, you're going on a West coast tour.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Right now, and you're going to go sing And we
would go or Texas or you never knew what you
were going to do.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
We would go early on on that radio tour. It
was like a two week radio tour. So wasn't it so?
I just went on forever actually, and we were on
a bus across the country going to all these radio
stations and schmoozing with them in the mornings for breakfast, lunch,
and dinner. I think I got put on thirty pounds.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Two were three stations a day, whatever we could.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
But you guys were tight knit. Yeah, we were close.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
We were really close. And it's interesting because, like you
mentioned earlier, we were put together by our producer, Tony Brown.
Billy was with Emmy Lou, Harris Ray was with Law
Love It. I just left Delwrit McClinton and I was
focusing on my songwriting coming to Nashville, trying to get
a George straight cut. That's what I was, you know,
wanting to do. I'm still trying to get one.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Next week George.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Is going in and all are they tell me I'm
gonna get I'm but I'm still trying to do that.
But but Tony had a vision and he's great at
putting things together, because that's what producers do. You know.
It's like, I got some guys in mind, and you'll
be the you know, you'll be the guy who're gonna
build it around your songs. You're writing you know, but
I got some guys and so anyway, he introduced me
(12:09):
to Billy.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
We went.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
We met at Elliston Place, uh and I had a milkshake.
We shared a milkshake, two straws one.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
It wasn't like that.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
No, no, no, no, no, Terry, it was not It
was too separate.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
It wasn't let me have my memories, Billy, you have years.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I have say the worst scenario, three straws.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Luckily I wasn't here.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And only and only two guys.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
That's really missed up, you know, were so lonely.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
We're hoping somebody will stop by a terrible.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
And then Ray.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
I met Ray down in Austin and I love it
was playing the Paramount Theater.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
But the cool thing was we hit it off, you.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Know, personally, still all these years later, we still we're
still hitting it off. We're still having fun.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
When people say, what do you know, how's it going
out there? I said, well, we laugh a lot and
play a little bit of music, because that's kind It.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Helps you talk about hitting it off.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
We just had the same. Tony Brown introduced us a
week ago downtown for an EP release. He brought us
song and said, I know these guys we've been friends.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
He was so good.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
It was like, man, oh man, at just the town
we had people we made relationships with personally.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
So you reassemble after all these years, you remain friends
over the years. Ausness set that up. But I think
it was in twenty twenty one you issued a warning,
I'm sorry, made the announcement that you guys were getting
back together.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Man, is a huge step here.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You're missing a huge step because there are new generations
of fans who are digging on you guys, and they
want to know and we want to hear again this
magical thing was happening. Why did it disband in ninety five?
What do you tell the new generation before we get
to the coming back together?
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Well, I think there's a lot of things also at
the nineteen ninety five where you're pulled on in a
lot of different ways. It's happened to us times, you know, Oh,
you know it, just the business can pull you in
different directions, and we decided that was the best thing
to do at that time.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
All right, So McBride and the ride, Terry McBride is
being is very polite. I will say that back in
the mid nineties, some powers that be made some personnel
changes in the band. That happens a lot in this town.
So all three of the guys, Terry McBride, Billy Thomas,
and Ray Herndon all went their separate ways, became very
successful musicians, but they always remained friends.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Indeed, So up next the story of how McBride and
the Ride recently got back together after more than thirty years.
And as you'll hear, the good times are still rolling
for these guys. What was the spark that got you
back together again?
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Well, I was out touring doing some solo singer songwriter
shows around the country. I went out to Phoenix, where
Ray's always been grew up in Scottsdale, and I played
his beautiful a musical instrument museum theater out there. I
invited Ray to come out and he did. Then I
got him up, you know, to sing and play, and
the crowd loved it and we loved it. And then
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Ray was like, the next day's like, man, we're still
young enough, we should be doing let's call it Billy
it Dog got it.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
And so that started the whole and I was hit
checking on the side of our forty and they just
kind of picked me up.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
So it's raisfault.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I'll take the blame.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It's raisfall.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Back in the two we cut an album called Amerilla
Sky and Ray was kind of the catalyst behind that.
He's like, man, we should you know, we should get together.
We did a benefit I think for Kising Ronnie or something.
We got together and saying anyway, it got some interest
and it is.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
That's interesting talking about no social media. Even in two
thousand and two when we recorded the Amrollo Sky record
with Matt Rollings was producing it and we recorded that
out in Franklin at his little house studio. But it
was such a fun project. We had such a great time.
But at the time there was no social media, no
way to get it out other than to go back
to radio. And we had a little label, Duel Tone Records,
(16:00):
and they were trying to do that and they were trying,
but they and we went out and played a couple
of shows. We played a show with Blake Shelton early
on and he was a big fan. It was cool,
but the radio wasn't you know, the radio was becoming
kind of they didn't know what to do with themselves.
So we released a song that we recorded called Squeeze Box.
(16:22):
I'm playing you, but squeeze Box obviously the old Who song.
We recorded a cool version of it and we did
a great video with it, and radio said, oh, it's
too ResQue for country radio, and all of a sudden,
outcome save a horse, Ride a Cowboy. So it's like,
you know, it was hard to really figure.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Out Box Daddy, We're trying to do something different. We
had a country song called anything That Touches You that
did chart. We had a little a little success in
pockets and places. You know how it is and how
radio can work for an independent that's really what they were.
But we found that song Emeralds Guy. We thought, man,
this is a hit, you know, and then of course
(17:01):
it went on to be a big hit for Jason
Eldan later. But we couldn't convince them. They thought it
was maybe just a Texas song, you know, at the time, but.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Had had there been TikTok at the time. It was
such a great record and we were ready to get
out there again. It just that's what's happening now.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
We're connecting with this audience. It's either the original fans.
A lot of times it's the children of the original fans,
and then it's the unknown who you're just discovering us
through whatever means.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
And that's what we're seeing now is multiple like generations,
you know, people my grandparents.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Who loved you. Guys.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Really, how surprise were you to get the call though
from these two guys saying hey, we've been on stage together.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
I wasn't surprise.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
It was Ray that actually reached out to me and said, hey,
would you be interested?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
I said, hell, no, there's only two. There's only two
straws here this time.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Back to memories, memories, dream.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
I ended up in place all by myself, the soda shop.
I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Was it chocolate stravanella?
Speaker 8 (18:07):
It wasn't vanilla Billy.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
I still can see the sun coming through the windows
just as he Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
All right, so who named this ep? Marlboroughs Navon?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Well, the we got that song through a guy in
Texas through Facebook. He sent me a message like, hey, Terry,
big fan, I think this song would be cool for
McBride and the Ride. You know, if you guys are
doing something. And it was Marlboro's Navon. I mean he
already had the time, he already had the song. He
let us go in and tweak it a little bit.
We did a little something to make it more fit us,
(18:39):
just a little bit better. But we love that idea
from that generation. You know, I'm a seventies teenager, and uh,
that's really it hit home for me. I mean, songs
that they should hit hit you somewhere. That one did.
I could picture all of those little images that he
had laid out there, that small town tracks.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Just nostalgic read between the lines and everything else. Now, man,
no former smoker. Okay, I'll admit a former smoker. Nothing
better than a freshly lit cigarette. But what was your
favorite Avon product?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I say, I can say when I lived here, skin
so soft because it keeps the mosquitoes out.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I'll handle this, Charlie. It does again Ray's fault.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I couldn't stand. I couldn't stand the smell of off
or any of that stuff. And somebody told me when
I was living in Nashville, and you know, the mosquitoes
are not the friendlist here by means they said you
should try skin, so I'll get some. Sure enough, it
worked and actually smelled pretty good.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And that's why I really kept business.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
That's right, yeah, mine, I guess would be the talcom
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
We don't want to go there.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Can we all agree and admit here that ray looks very.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Skin so soft. It is definitely paying off.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I still use it to this day.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That's just chronic exfoliating, that's all.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I've received several these Avon bottles that came in different There's.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
A car, the Cowboy on a Horse.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
I have that one thanks to my friend here in
town that gave me a couple of those right away.
But yeah, I wasn't that familiar with Avon other than
everybody Billy's mom had sold some maybe sixty. There's tons
of those stories out there.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
But yeah, where they had the parties and all that stuff, Yeah,
you got.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
It just clicked.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
You know, we've sung, we've had themes over the years,
but it just felt like something for where we're at
in our career, our lives, our age appropriate other than
just you know, going to a honky talk and hitting
on somebody. That just didn't feel like where we need
to go down that path again. You know, we've done
that sort of thing, and we still love a good
honkey talk song. I mean, don't get me wrong, but
(20:45):
and there was a couple on this album of course
with this EP, but that just felt like something that
was would fit us for now moving forward and what
we could really you know, and it lent itself well
to the harmonies, which we're always looking for songs.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Like that, and that song really sort of kicked off
the opportunity for us to go in the studio and record.
So we found some.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Other songs, including song until that one.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, including you know, a few that Terry had written,
co written, and the Honky Talk song, which is We've
gotten a lot of mileage out of that one.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Here classic which we've been doing since ninety one, which
I found on a cassette we were putting the band
back together. I don't throw anything away. I still have
a whole box of our cassettes that were pitched to
us in the nineties. I mean, Achy Breaky Heart's on there.
Two of a kind of working on a full house.
They pitched a set song, remember, and those are all
still there, including this little white cassette that said nineteen
(21:37):
ninety one San Angelo, Texas Santa Fe junction and it
had that Honkey Talk song. The web Pierston and we
sounded so good on that cassette, just a board tape,
you know. But I brought up the guys and said, man,
I almost forgot we used to do this, but boy,
it sounds good. And so that gave us a couple songs.
Then we were off and running after that.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
And we just and we've just recorded two more and
we're going in the studio.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah right, and we leave.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Here's some background vocals, Ronnie Mills at the studio today
is where we'll be working, which you're excited about. It's
a great room and doing background.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Recorded a Christmas song, so which we've never done Christmas song.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
You've already recorded it.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Yeah, we're putting back.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Ye, So still doing something new.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, Bride and the Chipmunks.
Speaker 9 (22:23):
Exactly Christmas time is he Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
And he likes it too.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, yeah, he really likes it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
I'm curious about something. So since ninety five you all
went your separate ways. I'm sure still remain friends, but you, individually,
with your talents enormous talents, became so successful on your
own writing songs, working with other artists.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
So having had.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
This plethora of experience in the in the business, what
how do you describe, like, let's start with right, how
do you describe how those experiences bring something different to
McBride and the Ride than you ever had before.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Well, I think the main word there is just the experience,
just doing more of it all these years. The whole
time I was living in Phoenix when we first started
McBride and the Ride, and then when we split up
in ninety two, I thought, you know, I got to
get mind but to Nashville and start writing and maybe
(23:32):
pursue a solo deal the whole thing. So I moved
here and did a lot of writing, a lot of
session work, so all those experiences, and I know the
guys are the same way. I also kept playing with
Lyyle Lovit as well and on some of his recordings,
so keeping our foot in the business in that way
as players and singers. I think all that experience now
(23:55):
because we're producing this music ourselves and co writing it
and playing on it, which we always played on it.
I was going to say earlier that that's part of
what Tony's draw was to all of us, is not
only he didn't know about the singing part. He didn't
know we had the harmonies. He knew we were all players,
and I had played on all that Lyle Evitt, the
early Lyle stuff, and Billy was Emilu and Vince and
(24:16):
Terry had done all this stuff. He'd done bass player,
Billy being the drummer, and me being a guitar player.
Tony was like, Oh, these guys are actually could be
a real band. So all these years later, so yeah,
we've used that experience of not only playing together, but
playing in other situations, being involved in recordings, writing songs.
It's all come together now, these many years later to
(24:40):
help us be able to produce these songs and you know,
come up with hits sounding records.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
What do you think, What do you think about what
you're bringing different to the band now?
Speaker 7 (24:48):
I think this time around won is patience, which I
think as a big deal with because of COVID, because
the business has changed, I realized, and I'm very grateful
for jumping in the middle of a city that was
on fire. I moved here from Los Angeles in the
(25:09):
nineteen eighty seven and I had two people I knew,
and both of those people turned out to be incredible.
It was like a Cinderella story for me. I got
work with Vince Gill. He was one of the first
people I knew in this city.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
And I had never met him before.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
And then there was another person, Richard Bennett, who got
me involved with playing around sessions, and I started playing
with Marty Stewart on his recordings.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
That's where I met Tony Brown Rock. Oh yeah, I
played on that and it was just like the town
opened up.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
So I really didn't realize the waiting list that was
here in this town. This time around, getting back to
where we are now, it's making me see all three
of us and that we all are serious enough and
we all love this business and love making music. Bottom
line together that we'll get in a Superperberman and go
(26:06):
down the road. And it's a different kind of different
style of doing what we do, but we haven't lost
the love.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
It's still there. We'll sit and sing in the.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
And we're doing it all ter That's the other thing.
We're able to do what we want to do and
but yet stay true to what this band is and
what it was thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I can tell and listening to this EP, that you
really have fun doing this particular of music, Okay, especially
one true country music hockey talk song you mentioned earlier.
Any band that's ever played a honckey talk has a
nightmare story. Let's hear yours. Run oh man, think you're
(26:44):
right book, Let's see.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I remember playing a honkey talk out in near Ozona, Texas,
and this older gentleman wanted to come up and sing
and set out, and so we let him and he
started singing, and then he started choking for some reason,
any his false teeth out and they ricocheted off the
piano onto the dance floor, and then he dropped the
(27:07):
mic to go hunt for his false teeth, and then
we went back to drinking and took a break right
after that.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
There was no way to follow that particular song. That's
that's a closer, that's that's not a drop, that's a
drop teeth moments, don't drop the.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Mic, dropped the mic, and his choppers.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
At the same time we had we had a story
that we played a little I think it was Colorado City, Texas,
and we were doing a sound check and our tour
manager at the time, I don't know if he'd been
drinking a little bit. I don't know for sure, but
a guy kept trying to get up on stage and
finally our tour manager would have nothing. Right before our eyes,
(27:49):
he jumped on the guy just about five feet off
the ground. Yeah, on the ground, into the dust. We
thought he had killed the guy, and we were, you know,
of course horrified. Luckily he wasn't killed. He did get
fired from the radio station. He was at the guy
for trying to get up on stage with us.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Never a dull moment out there, I think, yeah, yeah,
the the these guys. I met two practical jokers that
were every bit as big a practical jokers as I
am and was back then, and we were out on
a radio tour and they got a key to my room.
I was in showering. I hadn't done anything to them.
(28:29):
I was saying, that was that same.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
Gig that was just talking about.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
So I'm in, I'm showering, I'm singing and getting ready
for the day.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And that is such b s.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
I can't do it anyways.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
The the the the next thing, there's a track of
cold water on meower, no clothesan'k open the the shower curtains,
run outside.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
Took off running and they're not there. They all of
a sudden, bam, the door shuts behind me.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Billy make away.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
Completely naked in the hallway and nobody's coming out. Finally
a family comes down the hallway and I find it
that I find a coke machine and I'm wedged up
against this coke machine.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Somebody, I think Ray threw a towel at me and.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Let me put family gut you the town.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Maybe maybe they did, so the story doesn't end. The
next time we're in town, we're doing Nashville now, and
Ralph Emery.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
Goes, well, anything, Billy, Billy, I hear something happened down
in Texas with you being naked in the hallway, and
it's Ralph, and I'm going, oh, leave.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Billy had never shared it with his family.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
None of that was how Ralph get the info.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
How do you think? Yeah, that's how I was set up.
So there I am going, well, question and then my wife,
of course at the time, she called you, I have
to find out that kind of crap on show?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Really?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
What was payback? Billy?
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Many years?
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Okay, we're all practical jokers.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
We just we did a lot of fun stuff out there.
We bungee jumped together. We've survived that. We've We've done
a lot of stuff on the road. But and uh,
and still here, still here to talk about it?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You asked.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
He did that?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
You thought that was funny. When we come back, McBride
and the Ride's most hilarious story ever about signing autographs
for fans.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Oh man, I love these memories. Also a taste of
their secret weapon in the recording studio, those killer harmonies.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
It's sup precious this thing. You don't know nothing.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
The musicianship, the vocals, the experience. I think you're one
of the most solid bands in this town. I hope
people hear this music and enjoy it as much.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
As the excitement. I mean, wouldn't you think all?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I mean, Brothers Osborne gave us the biggest compliment a
couple of months ago.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
We were just.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Talking about how they seem to have this spark even
though they actually they fight a lot about music, but.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
That you know, that's a good thing because it makes
it good.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
And they gave us the compliment said, well, you know,
all these years later, we feel like you guys have
the same spark, and so also I'll pay the compliment
forward back to you all.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
It doesn't seem to be that there's anything.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Jaded or.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Kind of like, oh gosh, been there done that. This
just seems like it is totally fresh and exciting for
the three of you.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
It is exciting. We're excited about going to the studio today.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
We're excited about.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
This coming over here, just talking about you guys, because seriously,
you know, going back to our start, this is where
it all began for us. It was a full circle
moment here because the opportunities we got, really that little
studio over there. I remember the alley and going in
and getting make up that day, so excited our families watching.
You know, I still have all that on VHS tapes,
(32:21):
all those shows.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
And so much has changed. I mean I was thinking
about y'all's show back then, and you know people that
we've lost all these years later, of course Ralph Emery,
but so many and we're all still here. So I
think that's the big takeaway for us as we're in
I like Terry said, when I went out to his
show at the at the Musical Instrument Museum, I was like, man,
(32:43):
we're still all doing this. I have a club out
in Scottsdale that my family's owned for fifty years that
I own now. My mom passed in seventeen and I
bought it from my brothers and I run it. It's
an iconic place. It's where Waylon Jennings made his basic
start when he moved from Lovebock to Scott's Sanda. It's
called Handlebar Ja and it's an iconic cowboy restaurant and bar,
(33:05):
and you know, so that's what I've been doing. But
when I went out to see Terry, I was like, man,
I'm still playing. Billy's still playing with Vince, and we're
still doing this. We got it while we're still able
and young enough to go out and like I said,
have some fun and have some laughs, because that's what
we do a lot of because you don't play music
(33:26):
the whole time, so you got to find other stuff
to do. And we laugh a lot.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
So that's a big point.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
So here you are reunited and doing such great music,
but you're still keeping all of your individual work with
other artists. Is this going to be complicated for you
to figure out schedule?
Speaker 10 (33:43):
It is sometimes it we're good at, you know, staying
in touch with each other, and we've all discussed that,
like Billy will have the Christmas shows at the Rhymen
with Vince and Amy Com.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Yeah, we just that time off for us as things
start to slow down into the year anyway. So you know,
that's something Billy's been doing for the last thirty years,
so we understand that's important. And Ray is comes and
goes when he can because he is out there running
his venue. But it was the cool thing about getting
back together. Everybody's still been actively. We've all been doing things,
(34:15):
so we didn't have to one talk anybody into doing
it or bring somebody up to speed like you need
to practice, you know, because everybody's been doing their own things.
It helped a lot.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
And you always block out Amazon Prime Day.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Billy was about to say something important.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
Let's find out it was on Prime Day.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
That's all what you think of right now?
Speaker 6 (34:40):
Well he did it. He dropped one on the bomb.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Good listen, since it's kind of a full circle thing,
you know. We we love to put you guys on
the spot heading to the studio, right, Okay, how do
you warm up vocals? And can you do it? Now?
You're talking about that harmony and harmony on the c
P and what would be a good one?
Speaker 7 (35:09):
Well, you want to do Marlboros and as or.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Of course, just do classics and lines or something.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
They're warm.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
This sang some me come lately.
Speaker 9 (35:27):
It's a precious thing. You don't know nothing bad. We
were joined in the eyes of the Lord, in the
eyes of fire, home Town.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Why don't you leave a long trial?
Speaker 6 (35:51):
See grass a song.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
About us, step or two. But there's the magic I'm
talking about that is special.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
They say the harmony bands are coming back and we're
going to spearhead that one.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
Yeah, you'd be surprised at how many young bands want
to know.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
How do you guys do that? And I said, well,
it's all natural.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
It's as natural as you sing with your family, that
same sort of deal.
Speaker 11 (36:22):
They sent us.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Up in a little studio. We rehearsed all day and
Steve Fisher was with us at the time. He was
our other member at that time, and we started practicing,
which was fun. But when we started working these harmonies out,
we went, oh, wow, we've got a whole extra bonus
because it sounds like we're just four piece band on
the road. Steal guitar. We have Bruce Bouten, an amazing
guitar player, that's steel guitar player that's played on hundreds
(36:46):
of hits, and we're fortunate to have him on the road.
But what makes our band a little bit bigger are
those harmonies on every song. You know, we've got the
bonus of that three part. However, we want to use
them on the hits or the new stuff or whatever.
But sounds a lot bigger than looking at the band.
It's a small four piece, but it's a lot more
music than just that.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Well hard some of these clubs we've played recently, like
some of these guys don't even know who we are,
some of the club owners. And so we played a
place in Kansas City recently and the and there wasn't
a lot of people at the show because it was
a Thursday night, I believe, and there was some big
shebang going on downtown and so you know, we're competing
with that. We went out there and we did our show,
(37:26):
did the show, and the owner was like, you guys seriously.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Got to have you back.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
So we got to you. So we'll be back there
in October.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
That's how we have to do it nowadays, because without
the radio, we have to kind of get out there and,
like we were saying, through social media, find our fans
and then try to, you know, get them to come
to the shows on the.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
Radio, you're either one epiphany or the other with people.
They either say, wow, you guys, we knew you could sing,
but we didn't know you could play too, or the vices.
We all knew you played with different people and you're
all great players, but that's the vocals. So I think
even back when we did our promotional tours with MCA
(38:10):
that long ago, the thing we said, sure, are fine.
These guys brought their acoustic guitars and we sat on
stools just like we did on your show.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
The same thing.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
This will not be a surprise to you.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
We sit here every week with Lukecomb's, Thomas Rhett, Ashley McBride,
all of these people, who are you going for the
charts now? Over and over and over again. We don't
even bring it up. They talk about the artists, the songwriters, musicians,
the music of the nineties. There is something magical. That's why,
(38:44):
speaking of trademarks, we trademarked the Platinum Era of country
music for nineties country because that is that's that little
pocket of time, kind of like the fifties was with Jones.
And yes, there is still something so magical, and I
think all three of you are proof that that era
(39:05):
has something still so relevant and will be timeless.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Yeah, it's that group that's longing for those days and
remembering that music, and then it kind of left. Music
takes turns, you know, and goes different lanes and directions.
We've all seen it if you've been around long enough
these decades. Music changes, and it did for us. We
just sort of brought our country what I thought and
(39:31):
we thought was country music to what was happening in
the nineties. You know, it was our version of country music.
It was in some ways it was, but it was
so vast back then. I mean you had everything from
Brooks and dun to Travis Tritt to Riding the Way
of Garth Brookston.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
It's all different.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
It was so the individually it was a little bit different.
There were tons of bands, as you can recall back
in the in that day as well, but it just
it connected in such a way.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
It was just so popular.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
It was.
Speaker 11 (40:01):
It was a movement that was just unstoppable and there
were messages in those songs, and we kind of country
music kind of went away from that for a while,
and now I think it's coming back to that.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Names Yes, with Luke Can't drop a name forty seriously
looking back through my forty plus years. The first time
I ever interviewed George Jones backstage at the Opry, he said, Darling,
country music ain't no fad, ain't never going to be.
He says, it's going to go its way. Artists will test,
(40:33):
you know, push the envelope, test the boundaries. He said,
country music will always come back to what it should be. Yeah,
it's just exactly what you were talking about.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
It truly is now. You can see it where it
was talked about For a long time. It wasn't happening.
It was going down a certain path. And he left
a lot of you know, traditional kind of fans out,
you know, but that's why they're hanging onto this ninety
stuff and why we thought, if we're going to do something,
this might be a good time. If we can bring
them older fans along with us and find a few
newer ones, then we might have a few people to.
Speaker 11 (41:04):
Show Each time.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
I want to put a plug in for someone who
became very very close to me, Jesse Culture, and I
just saw her. She just released a new record that
Margot Price produced, and so you know, just talking about
that era, well, her era, which was before Hours, and
she was the biggest selling country artist at that time,
(41:25):
before she became involved with Whalon and the Outlaws record,
she was a bigger star than they were at first, right,
and so anyway, I just wanted to put a plug
in because she just released a record, she just got
married recently, and I went to her wedding. But she's
the best, and she's the epitome to a lot of these,
you know, today's artists and people like Tanya Tucker. They
(41:47):
just look up to Jesse, you know, because she was
such an influential part of country music. She married a
cowboy in Wyoming. They're happy. And guess where they met Jay.
Speaker 7 (42:05):
Getting back to what George Jones said to you, that
comment I saw firsthand in nineteen eighty seven. Again, probably
with these guys, maybe with Vin Skill, I'm not sure.
But when I moved here from Los Angeles, the pop
world at that time there were deities and there were
(42:26):
iconic people that you could not touch. You didn't get
backstage to see them, you never saw them out. And
about when I moved here and I went to fanfare,
I will never forget. It's touching me right now to
think about I was amazed that the every artist, or
(42:48):
almost every artist, was not above going and mingling and
signing with their fans.
Speaker 6 (42:56):
I thought, that's unheard of.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
And they just totally amazed me that people would do that.
And I think that's what will endear and endure those
fans to those to every artist.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
And we went.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Right in it.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
We did it with with guards and all the rest
of them, those all day long.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Boy, Travis Sweat, excuse me, you were in the sheep bar.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Yes, boy, I definitely remember the go there one of
the one of the barns we signed, Well, you had.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
The poultry, all come on, hogs or sheep, we have
the sheep barn.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
I tried to stay away from the sheep barn.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
I'm an old f f A guy, Charlie, deep in sheep,
that's what we say down there.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Put on your blue jacket. I still got it.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
He's an f f A guy. I wore my jacket.
Speaker 5 (43:47):
We played an f A annual event in Belton, Texas.
Speaker 4 (43:54):
Okay, I'll have a good joke, but you don't know.
He's trying to back pad Charlie him.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
If you just turned three sheets Arod, three sheets now all.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Three sheeps to the wind.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
My first man trademark that Laurie.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
See if we can get that trademark.
Speaker 6 (44:16):
Well, you look at you've got trademark connections.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Let's get that one locked down right.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
Now here we go.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
You guys have to go have a recording session.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
Thank god, we've got some paperwork we gotta fill out this.
I'm keeping that three sheeps to the wind.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Win win w W I N.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
And Charlie, that is so good. Charlie.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
We call our attorney.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
I'm afraid to.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
I'm telling you you can edit most of this stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
And thank god, this.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Has been a blast, I know, because we've got to
get a picture.
Speaker 8 (45:12):
Let's do it.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
When don't we got to end this.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Let's also let's all say tod one, two, three.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
They can't help it to talk.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
Three times again.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
It's not about being in a bar with that liquor.
You know, those guys are so funny. I mean, they
were like that as soon as they walked in the
studio with us.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
You know what excellent memories things that I had not
even realized that. I guess their very first television appearance,
national television appearance was on our show. And what an
honor to know that, to know that that we have
had even a small part in the careers of such
(46:01):
amazingly talented people.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Yeah, Marl Burroughs and Avon. Now it's an EP. It's
got five songs on the air that I think you're
really going to like. It's true country music, let me
put it that way. Their vocals are just perfect as
they always have been, and I think you really enjoyed it.
It's good to see Terry and the guys again McBride.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
And we love those guys, and we love you out
there too. We have your country covered all the time.
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