January 5, 2021 • 44 mins
As superstar Tim McGraw reaches another career milestone, he is beginning a new chapter in his personal life. What are his secrets to such astounding success? Hear Tim reminisce and also lay out his vision for his future with longtime friends Lorianne Crook and Charlie Chase. You are invited to share the laughs, the life lessons, and the uniquely entertaining personality of one of the all-time greats, Tim McGraw.
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Krook and Chase here, Loriana Charlie jumping right into our
Nashville chats today with Tim McGraw. Oh the stories we
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have to tell on each other, going back to when
we all first met, and that was four. I know
to joke, we are going off the rails on that today.
Plus we are celebrating Tim's major career milestone, four number
one hits spanning the past four decades. Eventually, this guy
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is gonna make it. Now we'll get into his ups
and downs through all of that hit making decades he's
talking about. But follow me here. You mentioned his breakthrough
Ye his first acting role was in two thousand four
in the movie Friday Night Lights. And he's lived in
a house with four ladies, his wife, Faith Hill, and
three daughters. Right, So the number four seems to be
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his lucky number. I know, and I looked it up.
Same for his biological debt Major League Picture Tug McGraw.
His uniform number with the Mets and the Phillies was
always forty five. He pitched eight hundred and twenty four games,
the final game in nineteen four. So this is so interesting.
The number four has this mystical, magical significance for the
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McGraw amen and Now, that was a difficult relationship between
Tim and Tug. He'll talk about that today. But most importantly,
we have a lot of laughs, a lot of insight
into Tim's music and personal life, beginning with the construction
we're all enduring here in Nashville on Music Row. Before
we get started here in the event, you hear jack
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hammering and big trucks going by and all this stuff.
It's just progress here on Music Row and made me wonder,
did you ever work instruction? I worked a lot of
construction growing up. One of my running jokes is when
someone asked me, you know, boy, you like if somebody
asked for a picture or something, a restaurant our, our
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photograph or something in the restaurant, They always say, well,
you must really get tired of this, And I said, no, this,
this meets the hell out of roof it. So we
did some roof in Is that right? Oh yeah, in
Louisiana in the summertime. Is it not fun? Yeah? Yeah,
for sure. Yeah. I've done my share of construction work.
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I've done my share of cotton picker work and tractor
work and irrigation move and work. So I've done just
a little bit of everything. Probably. Oh my gosh, Well,
guess what I was just doing as you were calling in.
I was on Amazon kind of searching around, and I noticed,
of course, last year you put out the book Grit
and Grace, and I have not read it. So I
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pushed the button. I I ordered it. But I have
a big question for you. I noticed the subtitle is
about training your mind and training your body. Will any
of this information help me train Charlie? Well, there's only
so much you can do with a mind like that.
Careful not to mention a body like that. One's going
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to go there with a body. That's why I started
with the mind. I mean, that's probably the easiest place
say well, help a little bit. Well, but just very
very quickly, because I have not read the book yet.
But that's going to be my little project here when
I have some Christmas time off. But what is the
number one thing that might help Charlie Chase that is
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in this book? Oh my god, we don't have that
much to hang up on him. Everybody knows I love Charlie.
That's what I named. I named the jack ass out
of my farm. Charlie, Kay about that, gosh, And I
hope he's on your front leaving a gift. Now, you
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know what I think overall, Lorian is you know, you
get asked a lot from people, like people who I
don't know, even in a mean great like a young
young person will come up and say, you know what, like,
what's one key to success? One once? And there's really
you know, nothing replaces hard work. But to me, it
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always comes back to focus. I think that in the
times in my life when things are going well and
things are going the way I want them to go,
it's because I'm focused on what I'm doing. And in
the times when things aren't going as well as I
want them to go, or from frustrated with something or something,
is that really hitting on all cylinders. I have to
sort of step back and look at myself or look
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at what's going on from the thirty thousand foot level
and realize that I'm really not focused on what I'm doing,
and that's really what makes the difference. Focus is probably
probably one of my favorite words that in perspective are
probably some of my favorite words in meaning this language. Well,
I cannot wait to read this book, but so let
me ask you this, what are the things that get
you off focus? Oh? My gosh, there's so mainly myself
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that there's things that get me off focused on any
like anyone you can, you can. It's easier too. It's
easy to find a way to go down to dark
places sometimes, I think, because sometimes we get comfortable with that,
with that um and keeping your stuff out of that
hole and keeping yourself out of that spiral. It's probably
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the hardest part is staying positive and kind of put
things into your life every day that that set you
on a positive tangent as opposed to a negative. And
now that being said, I'm not great at that, but
that's that's the thing. I'll try to work on all
of them. I didn't want to bring anything up. Well, well,
laur Anne was over there ordering that comic book or whatever.
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You wasn't But do you know there's a lot of
small words so you can read it. I can't wait
to get the color and everybody. Yeah, no, seriously, are
you aware of all the stuff that's for sale out
there with you on it? Your likeness? Well? I hope so. Well,
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at least does I get paid. Well, there's there's a
there's a an item called the Tim mcgrawl bedroom poster.
Oh my god, you haven't seen that. I haven't seen that.
The Tim mcgrawl bedroom posts put that on the Amazon list,
LORI and to send it to him already. Oh my god.
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Maybe I'll get one for faith for Christmas. Because it's
a rendering and artists has drawn a picture of you
on stage and you're pulling your shirt lap while you're singing.
It's crazy. It's showing your abs. Yeah, oh boy, oh boy.
Well I'll get her that. Maybe that'll replace the brad pitt.
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I'm not sure about the sixth we counted five abs,
not saying I'm a little even on a minute, we
can go down. No, no, no, I'm crawling out of
I'm crawling out of the sewer. For my next question, um,
speaking of being fit and all that, what exactly have
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you done so far today in your effort to stay
healthy and fit? Today? So I got up, I did
five miles on the treadmill, and then I did uh
three rounds of six different exercises sort of a hit me,
crossed it. Okay, fine, that's a great start. Now what
did you do? What did you do yesterday that was
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not being healthy and fit? I watched two movies with
my two daughters and my wife and eight milk duds
and whoppers the whole time. Good Lord, no wonder even
the gym this morning. That's why I was going to do.
God knows what you sound. God knows what you sounded
like when you're on the treadmill too, so pretty hard. Yeah,
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you got a splurge every now then it wasn't you know.
One of the main reasons we wanted to talk to
you is to congratulate you on this this milestone year
of yours forty four huge hits spanning four different decades.
How do you describe what this time in your life
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means to you? You know, in the in the broad
perspective of everything, I think being grateful, I mean considering
this year, considering, um, all the things that people are
going through, and and look, it never is lost on
me how lest we are, how lucky we are to
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have the life that we have, and and and country
music has brought everything good that's happened to me in
my life has come from country music. Um, from from
the very beginning, having you guys a friend, having me
on your show, from the very beginning of my career,
to all the people that I've met and most importantly,
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if it had not been for country music, I would
not have met my wife, and I would not have
the three daughters that I have. And our youngest one
turned nineteen yesterday. It's just been this year has been
a year, and I don't reflect much. I'm I'm always
looking forward to always say what's the next thing that
I could do, What's the next best thing that I
can do. But this year has called some reflection and
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it has allowed us to look back, and especially our
youngest daughter turned the nineteen and moving out of the
house and face another coming empty nesters is certainly a
time to reflect on your life because you look back
and think, this is a new chapter in our lives
and face and I you know, we we got married
and had a kid and and it was a whirlwind
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romance and we haven't you know, most of all of
our relationship has been having kids, and we loved it.
It's been fantastic and it's been the joy of our lives.
So we have a new chapter of life to look
forward to that she just has me to rate her
hardest job is just beginning. Trust me, I always tell
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everybody's faith as four kids, and I'm the worst of
the boy well, you know, and and and in light
of what you just said, the song that we've played
on the show here before, Gravy. If I'm not mistaken,
this is a it's a song of appreciation, and I'm
not mistaken. It's basically where you think you are in
life right now? Is right? Yeah, I mean it's It's
one of my favorite songs on the record, and it does.
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It talks about you, Look, there are a lot of
sort of existential things in your life that you can't
control and thinks that that that that can bring you down,
and things that you can get caught up in, and
things that you can you can get too too worried about.
But essentially, if you look, if you're bringing everything down
so you're a microcosm, and and looking in the mirror
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every day and seeing who you are, and and seeing
your family every day and being who they are and
loving each other. I think that's that's you know, that's
what the song means. Everything you got that and you
can control that. If you can put that on your
plate and feel good about it, then then everything else
that happens good are bad. Um, it's sort of you
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can deal with, yeah, you know, that's interesting to him
because you know, your life in the music business hasn't
all been gravy. There's about ups and downs. You've done
a lot of hard work, You've gotten through some really
big obstacles. How do you describe the life lessons that
the music business has taught you? Well, gosh, it's perseverance
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is for one is one thing. And and you know,
sticking to your guns and sticking to your convictions. Um.
Just from a pure artistical side, knowing yourself as an artist,
I think is probably the biggest thing you can have
this business. Um. And more than knowing what works, knowing
what doesn't work, I think it's probably the most important thing.
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And so when you when things come across you in
your artistic life, in your professional life that you know
don't work for you, you have to stand up for
those things, stand up against those things and say, you know,
I know it sounds good to everyone else, but this
test does not work for me. And I think that's
probably the best advice that I could give, other than
the focus that we were talking about earlier, there's really
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knowing yourself as best that you can UM. And I
think that every obstacle that I've gone through has taught
me to to reach down and learn more about myself
as an artist. Um and I'm grateful for all those
those obstacles I've had to go through because I think
they've made me better at what I do well. Through
it all, Tim McGraw has managed to come up with
forty four number one hits. Set's enough for a few
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greatest hits albums, don't you know? And his most recent
is McGraw Machine Hits. Well. When we come back, we'll
discover what he thinks is his all time greatest hit
and why that song breaks his heart to this day.
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high school, I never really was like dating around or
anything like that. And then I got into a long
term relationship and was dating someone for a few years.
And then after getting out of that relationship, I think
these this past years or whatever whatever it has been
like meet like actually living life as a single person.
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It's very hard, and I think it's what do you mean,
Not like not hard, I should say, but like it's
very different knowing nothing but long term relationships and then
moving into like the single lifestyle. That's like quote dating
around and like feeling people out. That's kind of been
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meeting you, working with you on radio and television and uh,
I remember when your first greatest kitsch album came out.
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I think there were two songs on it, um but
for the for this, uh this album, the McGraw Machine
Hits nineteen. Did you go in and re record anything
like artists do? Know? No, everything is pretty pretty much original.
And what what it's because you know, we just released
our ore Here on Earth album, which is my favorite
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album I've ever done to this day. And then we
and we went back with Big Machine. We're back with
Big Machinery Scott Bard show expan of what they do
over there, and we just thought it was a really
good time to explore that that period of time that
that we had three albums with Sig Machine and the
hits that we had during that time, and to put
you back into that moment. I think sometimes you want
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to hear stuff as it was recorded, in the time
that it was recorded, because as an artist, you can
always go back and you can listen to records, and
I do it. I never listened to my stuff until
I'm ready to record the next album. Then I'll go
back and listen to a few things because I've made
middle notes about Gosh, I wish I'd have done that better.
I wish I've done this better. Maybe I would do
maybe I make this sound a little different when I
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when I go in the studio the next time, so
I go back and listen to sort of reminds me
of the things that I wish I had done better.
So you're never quite finished little project. You just sort
of get it into the barrel and you have a
timeline it you have to turn to the hands, so
you just sort of have to rest it at some point.
But I think that that's what creates that sort of
magic at that moment in time. And I think you
want to when you listen to hits, sometimes I think
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you want to go back and and here on that
as they were and as they went down, because all
the influences that were going on in your life show
up at the record. That's very interesting. Yeah, gosh, you
have done so much music though In your Own Heart,
which is your greatest hit of all time so far. Wow,
that's a tough one. I've been very fortunate with songs
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in my career to have songs that really have become
a part of people's lives. And and I think, to me,
those are the songs that I don't feel like they
are mine. I feel like I'm just as fortunate as
everyone else that gets to hear them and get something
out of them. I just happened to be the person
that's up there singing them. And certainly what comes to
mind has Lived Like You Were Dying is one of
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those songs, certainly because the song is such a great
song to have such an impact on people's lives, and
it came at a time in my life that was
that was full of a lot of thanks and tragedy
and heartache and and sort of lost opportunity. When every
time I sing that song and I look out in
the audience, I'm not thinking about me singing, and I'm
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looking at people and I'm seeing people put their arms
around each other and hugging each other, and you realize
that they've gone through something in their life and that
song has meaning to them and as an artist, that's
probably the most important thing that you can do. And
another one is humbling kind That song always will be special. Hey,
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going back to live like you were dying, what was
the loss and the lost opportunity that you were mentioning. Well,
that song came along after my dad mis diagnosed with
with clear blast normal brain cancers, and it happened I
got the song. Craig Wiseman and Tim Nichols wrote the
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song for me, and all this was going on at
the time that I received the song, and it hit
me like a ton of bricks, and there was a
period of you know, I never played even the demo.
I never played for tug Is. I just didn't know
if I was going to record it or not, because
I there was part of me that didn't want to
record the song, because I didn't want to feel like
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I was I was being gratuitous and recording the song
according to what was going on in my life. And
then missed opportunities were for the things that we're never
that never got to be said. You know, there's a
story sort of past in the history with might add
that most people really don't know about unless they're get
involved in my career early on. That knows the whole story.
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And you know, there are a lot of things that
went unresolved, and that song always reminds me of those. Wow,
that's that's strong. All these songs, I've often referred to
them as memory markers, you know what's going on. You know,
whenever you hear you say, oh yeah, I remember it.
You know, hearing that song twenty years ago and I
know what I was doing and all that sort of thing.
And they all have memories for you. You You just explained one.
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Tell me about I called Mama. I was going what
what do you recall about? Just everything surrounding getting that
song done, recorded, released, whatever. I could go way back
and think about the times when I first moved to
Nashville and things weren't going exactly the way that I
wanted them to go. Struggling to pay rent and struggling
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to to you know, buy food and all those sorts
of things, and calling my mom, you know, just saying
I don't know if I'm doing the right thing. I
don't know if this is something I should be doing.
I don't know that this is ever gonna happen. What
am I gonna do if this doesn't happen because I
don't have a backup? And and having your mom talk
you through it and talk to you out of the
dark spot and lead you to the light. That's something
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that was always very important on me. But my memory
of this song, the most vivid memory of this song
is when I first when I first heard it. Lance Miller,
who's a great friend of mine, is one of the
writers of the song, and they had written it that afternoon,
and he sent me just the work tape of the
guitar and I'm singing it and I heard it and
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I listened to it, and I was like, I wanted
Faith to hear it, but I didn't want her to
hear to demo. I wanted to learn, like a person,
of course, to play for if she liked the song.
And every time I tried to play it, I couldn't
get to the hook without just falling apart and crying.
Although surely you know I'm in my fifties now, so
I guess my estrogen levels rising a little bit, so
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I cried. I cried all my commercial stuff. I need
to take you out for a drink or something. No,
but that's the memory that I have as much as anything.
It's trying to trying to get through a little bit
of that song to play for faith, to see what
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her opinion was. And she had the same way act idea.
She cried and she would cry because I cried, but
she liked the anyway. Okay, Well wait anutes. Though, I'm
more interested in the things that you would never call
your mama about. And there's nothing, you know what, I
don't think there's much that I would reallything there. There's
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a few things I meant telling God about. There's a
song there somewhere, and I hope he doesn't find out
before it's too late. He's already left me. You can't
feel God, Damn, I don't think there there's the there's
the look right there. You can't fool God. Has there
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been a song that you wanted to record but for
one reason another got away from him? Was recorded by
somebody from the dark side? There's somebody from dark side
and country? What are you talking about? No, there's been
plenty of songs that I loved and thought, we're hitting
records that I didn't record because I didn't think I
was the right artist for it. I don't know that
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there's anything that I've actually missed. Uh uh. One of
George straight song carrying Your Love with Me a while back,
because I think we both sort of heard that song
at the same time. And I've heard George's gonna cut it,
and I'm like, well, I'm out, George Strait is gonna
cut that soon. There's no reason for me the best
with it because he's gonna kill it. So that that
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was one I always loved. There's been plenty of songs
that I've heard and I've set to other artists. I've
always sit down better than it sit me, and they've
gone on to record them and have have success with them.
So that that makes me feel just almost as good
as if I recorded now. But you got you got
a good tracker. You're going that's good. Yeah, yeah, And
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Tim McGraw still has a bucket list a mile wide.
After a short break, Tim reveals what he's secretly been
doing during the COVID shutdown, which celebrity poster Faith Hill
has on the bedroom wall. That's interesting and Tim's idea
of the worst night ever. And yes it does involve
Charlie Chase. Thank you Criok and Chase Nashville Chats with
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today if you could talk to me a little bit
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about the process you went through. And I think it's
good to not pat yourself on the back, but to
put it out there so other people can kind of
hear what it takes. Like I don't know. I always
look at like this, like what do I want? I
wanted to be a w w WE superstar all right,
What does it take to be a WW superstar? What
do the tools I will need to give me every
possible opportunity I can get? And so I took the
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best friends on Earth. I was so excited to hear
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that you had done Rednet Girl with midlanding. Do you
know Howard and David very well? I know, and I've
run across him a few times and met him. A
huge fan, and you know, all the way back to
my early days at Curb, big On Gernhard, who was
at Curb, was a big part of their career, so
I knew a lot about I knew a lot about
their care anyway, because I was a big fan of
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their growing up growing up. But I've learned a lot
about them and really the depth of their talent from
Phil Gerhardt in a lot of ways to douse it
Integra and their success. But that song has always been
one of my favorite challenge. I've always loved it and
I thought with those Midland guys, it was a perfect
hit and and we were gonna do it. You know,
they were gonna go on tour with us this year
and we were gonna do that song as part of
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our show and everything, and of course that all came.
What happened? Well, I want to warn you if you
ever get to hang out with Howard and David the
Bellamy brothers, let's say for an evening, it will be
the most fun you have ever had in your life.
I just promised I look forward to because I'm a
huge fan of theirs, and I can only imagine. Yes,
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get him to tell you about the Was it the
bull that just discovered their little shall we say, garden
out behind the barn and the bull? Just ask them
what happened to the bull when the grass? So I'm
sure the bull is hey, listen, Oh it's more than that.
But that's beside. No, we have to further this story
(29:43):
because the story is is that that bull went and
tried to mount every cow on the farm. Okay, you
know what I'm saying. Well, and a couple of small automobiles. Well,
but then, and we were in front of an audience
when this happened. I asked Howard away didn't have the
same effect on you. Oh that's a whole another line
(30:08):
of conversation. Man would just say. I would just say,
one of my favorite things is when you're a hammer,
everything's the nail excuse me. I'm I'm making notes. That
is either your next song or your next book. Tim Hey,
(30:29):
the human Jackhammer? Never mind, Um, that's my nickname. Okay
said that? Oh no, it'll be more than the Brad
Paisley poster we have to deal with. Okay, No, it's
a Brad pitt my Brad Paige? Is it? Brad Paisley? Brad? No,
(30:51):
she's not gonna have Brad Paisley on her wall? Are
you kidding? Are you sure? I've check you? Guys? I
am sitting here crying. This is so funny, my mess Carrot,
I ask him he or something? You know when you
(31:14):
had see when you went number one and I called Mama,
that put you in a really special category. You've had
a number one hit each of the last four decades,
and I know you're I know you're proud of that,
and it's hard to surpass something like that. But is
there anything else on your bucket list at this point?
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You know? I say this a lot, and I feel
I feel like I'm I really feel like I got
a lot more ahead of me than I had behind
and behind me. I feel like that there's a lot
more for me to do, you know, the good thing.
And when I say that country music has brought everything
good in my life, It's given me so many opportunities
to do so many different things. Um. The movies that
I've been able to be involved with and those projects
(31:58):
have been a lot to me and they wouldn't have
come along without country music. So there's probably some some
headroom there and film that that that. There's some things
that I want to accomplish. They're probably in the long term. Um,
So that would be something I I want to do it.
I'd love to do a duet with George Strait somewhere
(32:20):
down the road one of my dream projects. Uh, stre
would be one of my dream projects, something like that. Um.
But I want to be in a world eventually to
where I can do as much good as I can
with my music. Um there's many causes that I can't
down the road. Oh wow. And you know I had
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sort of a similar thought just looking at your entire discography.
Great song, my next thirty years, your next thirty years?
Looking ahead, do you see a whole lot more work?
Do you want to do? You have more, more playtime,
more fun? What do you think? I know, probably for
the next five years, there's gonna be a lot of work,
(33:01):
for sure. That's as far as far as I can see. Um,
but I know there'll be a lot of working. I
can tell you that down the road. I mean, I'm
not gonna do this forever. I can tell you that
for sure, I'm not gonna. Um. You know, no one
ever says never, and I don't think. I don't know
that I'll ever say I'm like go out and announced
that I'm retiring or anything like that. But but I
(33:25):
tell you, when when that first grandchild comes, that's probably
going to change my perspective a whole lot about what
my future is gonna be. Yeah, I wouldn't work out
as much, I'll see, but I want to be around
for thirty more years, so I have to work. You know.
You know what, It's really cool. I remember you're talking
about this. Uh. I remember playing golf with you and grandfather. Yes,
(33:47):
that was the highlight of his life. God rest, he
had that picture hanging in his kitch, God blessing. We
had such a wonderful time that afternoon. So I hope
you're a lot like him when you become well, I
hope so too. But I won't be nearly the man
that he was. But that's something to aspire to, and
I'll forever be grateful for you for what I call
(34:09):
that was. That was certainly my pleasure. Hey, you mentioned
acting a moment ago, anything on the agenda? Have you
worked on anything? Oh wait a minute, I have another
question I want to ask before that, and I'll go
back to touring. Um, Well, the way things are in
the world these days, do you guys have a daily
conversation about when you're going to get touring? What are
you hearing that sort of thing with your management and
(34:31):
all that stuff. I don't really have a daily conversation,
but it's certainly forefront and everyone's mind. That's that's for
a lot of reasons. That's how, you know, our bills
get paid and how we pay people to work. And
there's a whole lot of people that are out of
work because touring is not happening. So I think that's
(34:53):
first and foremost. We all want to get back to
work so we can put everybody that works for us
back to work and take care of families that are
part of our organization, and as as every other artist
out there wants to do. You know, I think that
with the vaccines coming. I think that that's going to
be a huge boost to bringing the timeline back when
we can actually get out and do some work. We
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want to do it as badly as anyone else. We
want to be out there as badly as anyone else,
but we want to do it as safety okay. And
to follow up the question I was about to ask,
and that a sense of since productions are pretty much
getting back into operation, uh, do you see yourself doing
films again? There's there's very few productions in operation this year,
(35:35):
Charlie good So there'll be a might see some stuff
happened next summer that that I've been involved in this year.
Why do you have to keep it secret? Well, because
you know, you never want to have to cat out
of the bag. You want to keep people guessing what's
going on. But we've had some cool opportunities because we've
(35:55):
had time, you know you usually in the past. But
when it comes to film and stuff like that, it's
been tough because I've been touring recording. Um, you know,
somebody has to there has to be a project that
I love and then it has to fall within the
timeline that I'm available and they have to want me
for it and not somebody else. So all those things
have to come come online in order for me to
(36:18):
be able to do a job. There's been plenty of
things that have gone by that that I loved and
wanted to do that I just didn't have time to do.
It didn't fall within the right with the right time
frame that I had. But this year I had a
little extra time and there were a couple of cool
things went on it, so I was able to do.
What does acting? Charlie was like, whoa, What's that? Was
(36:40):
that kind of movie? Charlie, You're gonna have to expand
your horizons. No, I'm not so. You really are such
a great actor. What does acting do for you that
maybe music can't wow? Whether they're kissing cousins, I think
(37:02):
in a lot of ways, I mean they're certainly there's
the art about it is all there. I can tell
you that I'm certainly more comfortable on a stage in
front of thirty thousand people than I am on a
set in front of a few people in the camera.
That's one of the most that's one of the hardest
things I've ever done professionally, is acting. I think I
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have so much respect for people who are so good
at that. Because when you can go in there and
you can see somebody in thirty movies and you buy
it every single time they're in a movie and you
completely get lost in the character that they're representing. That's
such a fine, fine, fine art to be able to
pull that off. And look, I've been lucky to be
(37:44):
and have some good roles and some good movies with
some really good actors who have learned a lot from
um and been able to sort of get past that
that uh, that sort of fitfall. I guess have been
a musician and and every time everybody sees you on
the on screen, all they think about is, you know,
the guy and the cowboy had if they're jumping around
like a chicken on the hot pud. I think that's
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more of a testament not not to my acting skills,
but the people have been able to surround myself with
when I'm back into the roles and the movies and
the projects that I've gotten to Listen, you're a great actor.
And I remember being sitting there with your family. I
was right in front of you when Friday Night Lines
was premiering that to Franklin Theater. Yeah, yeah, and I
didn't get chest Toronto and see what you were doing.
(38:28):
But were you observing the audience more than the movie
that night? Oh, I was just wanting to get out
of there, and I just wanting to get the hell
out of it. I don't want to see myself. You know.
It took me when when that film was finished it
Billy with the director Peter Burg called and wanted me
to come do this to the screening of it, and
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I didn't want to go because I don't want to
see myself. And then Billy Bob calls this look every
the studios calling me to get you to come to
the screening, and I still said, no, I'm going to
go in. Then finally the producer of the movie in
the head of the studio had to call me and
just to really brow beat me and to come and
to see this movie. And so when I when I
saw it, I was you know, for me, it's it's
(39:11):
tough to be objective. So when I see it, I
just I see me up. They're acting, but I know,
but that's because I know I know what I'm I
see me. But hopefully most people get past that. I
think they did. You did a great job of that
in the blindside too. And I have one one more
I have one more pressing question. Okay, And over the
years we've had some interesting responses to this particular question.
(39:33):
Have you ever worn a Tim McGraw t shirt with
your face on it? And whatever the answer is? Why
you know, I don't think I have. Actually, I don't
think i've ever put one of those on Tim McGraw
t shirts. No, I don't think I have. I don't
think I've ever even worn a hat that had my
name on it. It just seems too weird. Yeah, God,
(40:01):
I would feel like I feel like the biggest deal
in the world if I did that. Well, put that
on your bucket list. There's something you haven't done yet.
Maybe you know what I'll do is I find find
one where I really young and where everybody can see
the contrast. Tim, you should see Charlie Chase in his
Charlie Chase pajamas, just so you know it's very cute.
(40:24):
Lorianne and Charlie in any pajamas is not something that
I want I ever experienced, because if I wake up
and I'm seeing Charlie Chase and his pajamas, that it's
been a bad night. Oh yes, Timmer, we love you
(40:44):
so much. You know, you are so much fun to
be around. But then there are just so many deep
layers to you. You're such a good man and a
good guy, and uh, we're just proud to know you,
and we're just so happy for uh some wonderful milestones
in your career and we look forward to so many more.
Thank you. I feel slaying about you, guys, and always
(41:05):
love talking to you on and you'll have been a
huge part of my career from the very beginning and
we're proud of that. Tim. Take care of yourself, buddy.
We love you and stay safe. Okay, okay, We've always
had a good connection with Timm Garraw And you know,
I do recall that night at the Franklin Theater when
Friday Night Lights was on, and this is Tim's first
acting role, right, so I know he had to be nervous.
(41:27):
He was sitting right behind me, his mom was there
and a lot of other family members, and we were
watching him on the street. I turned around, I said, man,
you know when when his scenes was over and when
something else, I turned around it man, you're good, and
he just kind of smiled and sort of slipped down
in his seat, and he was right. He was ready
to get the hell out of there, because he said
was nervous. Right, he was really good. He doesn't think
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he's good, but you know, it's interesting to me. It's
interesting that he wants to attempt something, keep trying, keep
getting better. I love that competitive Barrett in him. You know.
The thing is, um, I'm guessing what I'm reading between
the lines there that he has some stuff. It's coming
off this year. Oh yeah, I think he's He sort
of plainly said it. And can I go back really
(42:09):
quickly to the premiere of Friday Night Lights. I was
there as well, and at the after party, I asked Faith,
probably a very inappropriate question, well, because you know, in
the movie, Tim McGraw was shirtless and he had a
really hairy chest, I mean really Harry, And so I
(42:30):
asked Faith, is that really all of his hair or
is that something that they did back in the makeup
room or whatever? And she was like, no, she goes,
that is really what his chest looks like. Do we
need to know that? Well, these days with all those
ripped abs, he's all shaved and smooth man, he is
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Krook and Chase here, Loriana Charlie jumping right into our
Nashville chats today with Tim McGraw. Oh the stories we
(01:25):
have to tell on each other, going back to when
we all first met, and that was four. I know
to joke, we are going off the rails on that today.
Plus we are celebrating Tim's major career milestone, four number
one hits spanning the past four decades. Eventually, this guy
(01:46):
is gonna make it. Now we'll get into his ups
and downs through all of that hit making decades he's
talking about. But follow me here. You mentioned his breakthrough
Ye his first acting role was in two thousand four
in the movie Friday Night Lights. And he's lived in
a house with four ladies, his wife, Faith Hill, and
three daughters. Right, So the number four seems to be
(02:08):
his lucky number. I know, and I looked it up.
Same for his biological debt Major League Picture Tug McGraw.
His uniform number with the Mets and the Phillies was
always forty five. He pitched eight hundred and twenty four games,
the final game in nineteen four. So this is so interesting.
The number four has this mystical, magical significance for the
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McGraw amen and Now, that was a difficult relationship between
Tim and Tug. He'll talk about that today. But most importantly,
we have a lot of laughs, a lot of insight
into Tim's music and personal life, beginning with the construction
we're all enduring here in Nashville on Music Row. Before
we get started here in the event, you hear jack
(02:52):
hammering and big trucks going by and all this stuff.
It's just progress here on Music Row and made me wonder,
did you ever work instruction? I worked a lot of
construction growing up. One of my running jokes is when
someone asked me, you know, boy, you like if somebody
asked for a picture or something, a restaurant our, our
(03:12):
photograph or something in the restaurant, They always say, well,
you must really get tired of this, And I said, no, this,
this meets the hell out of roof it. So we
did some roof in Is that right? Oh yeah, in
Louisiana in the summertime. Is it not fun? Yeah? Yeah,
for sure. Yeah. I've done my share of construction work.
(03:33):
I've done my share of cotton picker work and tractor
work and irrigation move and work. So I've done just
a little bit of everything. Probably. Oh my gosh, Well,
guess what I was just doing as you were calling in.
I was on Amazon kind of searching around, and I noticed,
of course, last year you put out the book Grit
and Grace, and I have not read it. So I
(03:54):
pushed the button. I I ordered it. But I have
a big question for you. I noticed the subtitle is
about training your mind and training your body. Will any
of this information help me train Charlie? Well, there's only
so much you can do with a mind like that.
Careful not to mention a body like that. One's going
(04:17):
to go there with a body. That's why I started
with the mind. I mean, that's probably the easiest place
say well, help a little bit. Well, but just very
very quickly, because I have not read the book yet.
But that's going to be my little project here when
I have some Christmas time off. But what is the
number one thing that might help Charlie Chase that is
(04:43):
in this book? Oh my god, we don't have that
much to hang up on him. Everybody knows I love Charlie.
That's what I named. I named the jack ass out
of my farm. Charlie, Kay about that, gosh, And I
hope he's on your front leaving a gift. Now, you
(05:04):
know what I think overall, Lorian is you know, you
get asked a lot from people, like people who I
don't know, even in a mean great like a young
young person will come up and say, you know what, like,
what's one key to success? One once? And there's really
you know, nothing replaces hard work. But to me, it
(05:26):
always comes back to focus. I think that in the
times in my life when things are going well and
things are going the way I want them to go,
it's because I'm focused on what I'm doing. And in
the times when things aren't going as well as I
want them to go, or from frustrated with something or something,
is that really hitting on all cylinders. I have to
sort of step back and look at myself or look
(05:48):
at what's going on from the thirty thousand foot level
and realize that I'm really not focused on what I'm doing,
and that's really what makes the difference. Focus is probably
probably one of my favorite words that in perspective are
probably some of my favorite words in meaning this language. Well,
I cannot wait to read this book, but so let
me ask you this, what are the things that get
you off focus? Oh? My gosh, there's so mainly myself
(06:11):
that there's things that get me off focused on any
like anyone you can, you can. It's easier too. It's
easy to find a way to go down to dark
places sometimes, I think, because sometimes we get comfortable with that,
with that um and keeping your stuff out of that
hole and keeping yourself out of that spiral. It's probably
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the hardest part is staying positive and kind of put
things into your life every day that that set you
on a positive tangent as opposed to a negative. And
now that being said, I'm not great at that, but
that's that's the thing. I'll try to work on all
of them. I didn't want to bring anything up. Well, well,
laur Anne was over there ordering that comic book or whatever.
(06:53):
You wasn't But do you know there's a lot of
small words so you can read it. I can't wait
to get the color and everybody. Yeah, no, seriously, are
you aware of all the stuff that's for sale out
there with you on it? Your likeness? Well? I hope so. Well,
(07:14):
at least does I get paid. Well, there's there's a
there's a an item called the Tim mcgrawl bedroom poster.
Oh my god, you haven't seen that. I haven't seen that.
The Tim mcgrawl bedroom posts put that on the Amazon list,
LORI and to send it to him already. Oh my god.
(07:35):
Maybe I'll get one for faith for Christmas. Because it's
a rendering and artists has drawn a picture of you
on stage and you're pulling your shirt lap while you're singing.
It's crazy. It's showing your abs. Yeah, oh boy, oh boy.
Well I'll get her that. Maybe that'll replace the brad pitt.
(07:56):
I'm not sure about the sixth we counted five abs,
not saying I'm a little even on a minute, we
can go down. No, no, no, I'm crawling out of
I'm crawling out of the sewer. For my next question, um,
speaking of being fit and all that, what exactly have
(08:17):
you done so far today in your effort to stay
healthy and fit? Today? So I got up, I did
five miles on the treadmill, and then I did uh
three rounds of six different exercises sort of a hit me,
crossed it. Okay, fine, that's a great start. Now what
did you do? What did you do yesterday that was
(08:40):
not being healthy and fit? I watched two movies with
my two daughters and my wife and eight milk duds
and whoppers the whole time. Good Lord, no wonder even
the gym this morning. That's why I was going to do.
God knows what you sound. God knows what you sounded
like when you're on the treadmill too, so pretty hard. Yeah,
(09:02):
you got a splurge every now then it wasn't you know.
One of the main reasons we wanted to talk to
you is to congratulate you on this this milestone year
of yours forty four huge hits spanning four different decades.
How do you describe what this time in your life
(09:24):
means to you? You know, in the in the broad
perspective of everything, I think being grateful, I mean considering
this year, considering, um, all the things that people are
going through, and and look, it never is lost on
me how lest we are, how lucky we are to
(09:45):
have the life that we have, and and and country
music has brought everything good that's happened to me in
my life has come from country music. Um, from from
the very beginning, having you guys a friend, having me
on your show, from the very beginning of my career,
to all the people that I've met and most importantly,
(10:06):
if it had not been for country music, I would
not have met my wife, and I would not have
the three daughters that I have. And our youngest one
turned nineteen yesterday. It's just been this year has been
a year, and I don't reflect much. I'm I'm always
looking forward to always say what's the next thing that
I could do, What's the next best thing that I
can do. But this year has called some reflection and
(10:27):
it has allowed us to look back, and especially our
youngest daughter turned the nineteen and moving out of the
house and face another coming empty nesters is certainly a
time to reflect on your life because you look back
and think, this is a new chapter in our lives
and face and I you know, we we got married
and had a kid and and it was a whirlwind
(10:48):
romance and we haven't you know, most of all of
our relationship has been having kids, and we loved it.
It's been fantastic and it's been the joy of our lives.
So we have a new chapter of life to look
forward to that she just has me to rate her
hardest job is just beginning. Trust me, I always tell
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everybody's faith as four kids, and I'm the worst of
the boy well, you know, and and and in light
of what you just said, the song that we've played
on the show here before, Gravy. If I'm not mistaken,
this is a it's a song of appreciation, and I'm
not mistaken. It's basically where you think you are in
life right now? Is right? Yeah, I mean it's It's
one of my favorite songs on the record, and it does.
(11:34):
It talks about you, Look, there are a lot of
sort of existential things in your life that you can't
control and thinks that that that that can bring you down,
and things that you can get caught up in, and
things that you can you can get too too worried about.
But essentially, if you look, if you're bringing everything down
so you're a microcosm, and and looking in the mirror
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every day and seeing who you are, and and seeing
your family every day and being who they are and
loving each other. I think that's that's you know, that's
what the song means. Everything you got that and you
can control that. If you can put that on your
plate and feel good about it, then then everything else
that happens good are bad. Um, it's sort of you
(12:18):
can deal with, yeah, you know, that's interesting to him
because you know, your life in the music business hasn't
all been gravy. There's about ups and downs. You've done
a lot of hard work, You've gotten through some really
big obstacles. How do you describe the life lessons that
the music business has taught you? Well, gosh, it's perseverance
(12:44):
is for one is one thing. And and you know,
sticking to your guns and sticking to your convictions. Um.
Just from a pure artistical side, knowing yourself as an artist,
I think is probably the biggest thing you can have
this business. Um. And more than knowing what works, knowing
what doesn't work, I think it's probably the most important thing.
(13:06):
And so when you when things come across you in
your artistic life, in your professional life that you know
don't work for you, you have to stand up for
those things, stand up against those things and say, you know,
I know it sounds good to everyone else, but this
test does not work for me. And I think that's
probably the best advice that I could give, other than
the focus that we were talking about earlier, there's really
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knowing yourself as best that you can UM. And I
think that every obstacle that I've gone through has taught
me to to reach down and learn more about myself
as an artist. Um and I'm grateful for all those
those obstacles I've had to go through because I think
they've made me better at what I do well. Through
it all, Tim McGraw has managed to come up with
forty four number one hits. Set's enough for a few
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greatest hits albums, don't you know? And his most recent
is McGraw Machine Hits. Well. When we come back, we'll
discover what he thinks is his all time greatest hit
and why that song breaks his heart to this day.
Much more on the way Crook and Chase Nashville chats
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high school, I never really was like dating around or
anything like that. And then I got into a long
term relationship and was dating someone for a few years.
And then after getting out of that relationship, I think
these this past years or whatever whatever it has been
like meet like actually living life as a single person.
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It's very hard, and I think it's what do you mean,
Not like not hard, I should say, but like it's
very different knowing nothing but long term relationships and then
moving into like the single lifestyle. That's like quote dating
around and like feeling people out. That's kind of been
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meeting you, working with you on radio and television and uh,
I remember when your first greatest kitsch album came out.
(16:31):
I think there were two songs on it, um but
for the for this, uh this album, the McGraw Machine
Hits nineteen. Did you go in and re record anything
like artists do? Know? No, everything is pretty pretty much original.
And what what it's because you know, we just released
our ore Here on Earth album, which is my favorite
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album I've ever done to this day. And then we
and we went back with Big Machine. We're back with
Big Machinery Scott Bard show expan of what they do
over there, and we just thought it was a really
good time to explore that that period of time that
that we had three albums with Sig Machine and the
hits that we had during that time, and to put
you back into that moment. I think sometimes you want
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to hear stuff as it was recorded, in the time
that it was recorded, because as an artist, you can
always go back and you can listen to records, and
I do it. I never listened to my stuff until
I'm ready to record the next album. Then I'll go
back and listen to a few things because I've made
middle notes about Gosh, I wish I'd have done that better.
I wish I've done this better. Maybe I would do
maybe I make this sound a little different when I
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when I go in the studio the next time, so
I go back and listen to sort of reminds me
of the things that I wish I had done better.
So you're never quite finished little project. You just sort
of get it into the barrel and you have a
timeline it you have to turn to the hands, so
you just sort of have to rest it at some point.
But I think that that's what creates that sort of
magic at that moment in time. And I think you
want to when you listen to hits, sometimes I think
(17:58):
you want to go back and and here on that
as they were and as they went down, because all
the influences that were going on in your life show
up at the record. That's very interesting. Yeah, gosh, you
have done so much music though In your Own Heart,
which is your greatest hit of all time so far. Wow,
that's a tough one. I've been very fortunate with songs
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in my career to have songs that really have become
a part of people's lives. And and I think, to me,
those are the songs that I don't feel like they
are mine. I feel like I'm just as fortunate as
everyone else that gets to hear them and get something
out of them. I just happened to be the person
that's up there singing them. And certainly what comes to
mind has Lived Like You Were Dying is one of
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those songs, certainly because the song is such a great
song to have such an impact on people's lives, and
it came at a time in my life that was
that was full of a lot of thanks and tragedy
and heartache and and sort of lost opportunity. When every
time I sing that song and I look out in
the audience, I'm not thinking about me singing, and I'm
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looking at people and I'm seeing people put their arms
around each other and hugging each other, and you realize
that they've gone through something in their life and that
song has meaning to them and as an artist, that's
probably the most important thing that you can do. And
another one is humbling kind That song always will be special. Hey,
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going back to live like you were dying, what was
the loss and the lost opportunity that you were mentioning. Well,
that song came along after my dad mis diagnosed with
with clear blast normal brain cancers, and it happened I
got the song. Craig Wiseman and Tim Nichols wrote the
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song for me, and all this was going on at
the time that I received the song, and it hit
me like a ton of bricks, and there was a
period of you know, I never played even the demo.
I never played for tug Is. I just didn't know
if I was going to record it or not, because
I there was part of me that didn't want to
record the song, because I didn't want to feel like
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I was I was being gratuitous and recording the song
according to what was going on in my life. And
then missed opportunities were for the things that we're never
that never got to be said. You know, there's a
story sort of past in the history with might add
that most people really don't know about unless they're get
involved in my career early on. That knows the whole story.
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And you know, there are a lot of things that
went unresolved, and that song always reminds me of those. Wow,
that's that's strong. All these songs, I've often referred to
them as memory markers, you know what's going on. You know,
whenever you hear you say, oh yeah, I remember it.
You know, hearing that song twenty years ago and I
know what I was doing and all that sort of thing.
And they all have memories for you. You You just explained one.
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Tell me about I called Mama. I was going what
what do you recall about? Just everything surrounding getting that
song done, recorded, released, whatever. I could go way back
and think about the times when I first moved to
Nashville and things weren't going exactly the way that I
wanted them to go. Struggling to pay rent and struggling
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to to you know, buy food and all those sorts
of things, and calling my mom, you know, just saying
I don't know if I'm doing the right thing. I
don't know if this is something I should be doing.
I don't know that this is ever gonna happen. What
am I gonna do if this doesn't happen because I
don't have a backup? And and having your mom talk
you through it and talk to you out of the
dark spot and lead you to the light. That's something
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that was always very important on me. But my memory
of this song, the most vivid memory of this song
is when I first when I first heard it. Lance Miller,
who's a great friend of mine, is one of the
writers of the song, and they had written it that afternoon,
and he sent me just the work tape of the
guitar and I'm singing it and I heard it and
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I listened to it, and I was like, I wanted
Faith to hear it, but I didn't want her to
hear to demo. I wanted to learn, like a person,
of course, to play for if she liked the song.
And every time I tried to play it, I couldn't
get to the hook without just falling apart and crying.
Although surely you know I'm in my fifties now, so
I guess my estrogen levels rising a little bit, so
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I cried. I cried all my commercial stuff. I need
to take you out for a drink or something. No,
but that's the memory that I have as much as anything.
It's trying to trying to get through a little bit
of that song to play for faith, to see what
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her opinion was. And she had the same way act idea.
She cried and she would cry because I cried, but
she liked the anyway. Okay, Well wait anutes. Though, I'm
more interested in the things that you would never call
your mama about. And there's nothing, you know what, I
don't think there's much that I would reallything there. There's
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a few things I meant telling God about. There's a
song there somewhere, and I hope he doesn't find out
before it's too late. He's already left me. You can't
feel God, Damn, I don't think there there's the there's
the look right there. You can't fool God. Has there
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been a song that you wanted to record but for
one reason another got away from him? Was recorded by
somebody from the dark side? There's somebody from dark side
and country? What are you talking about? No, there's been
plenty of songs that I loved and thought, we're hitting
records that I didn't record because I didn't think I
was the right artist for it. I don't know that
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there's anything that I've actually missed. Uh uh. One of
George straight song carrying Your Love with Me a while back,
because I think we both sort of heard that song
at the same time. And I've heard George's gonna cut it,
and I'm like, well, I'm out, George Strait is gonna
cut that soon. There's no reason for me the best
with it because he's gonna kill it. So that that
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was one I always loved. There's been plenty of songs
that I've heard and I've set to other artists. I've
always sit down better than it sit me, and they've
gone on to record them and have have success with them.
So that that makes me feel just almost as good
as if I recorded now. But you got you got
a good tracker. You're going that's good. Yeah, yeah, And
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Tim McGraw still has a bucket list a mile wide.
After a short break, Tim reveals what he's secretly been
doing during the COVID shutdown, which celebrity poster Faith Hill
has on the bedroom wall. That's interesting and Tim's idea
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Charlie Chase. Thank you Criok and Chase Nashville Chats with
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I can post a picture that a girl that is
way skinnier than I am, a size to a size four,
the same exact picture, and I look vulgar because I'm thicker.
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But if a thinner girl does it, it's not that
much of a big deal. And that's what I'm not
okay with because why why? Because I have stellulite, because
I have thick thighs, I can't do that. I can't
feel sexy in my own skin. And that's those are
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I want to lose weight. But in reality, this is
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today if you could talk to me a little bit
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about the process you went through. And I think it's
good to not pat yourself on the back, but to
put it out there so other people can kind of
hear what it takes. Like I don't know. I always
look at like this, like what do I want? I
wanted to be a w w WE superstar all right,
What does it take to be a WW superstar? What
do the tools I will need to give me every
possible opportunity I can get? And so I took the
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tools of acting classes, improv classes, wrestling school, everything I
possibly can to knock on the door of w W.
The people of the everyone on that Real World show
would wear my T shirts would always ask me is
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Howard and David, the Bellamy brothers are two of my
best friends on Earth. I was so excited to hear
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that you had done Rednet Girl with midlanding. Do you
know Howard and David very well? I know, and I've
run across him a few times and met him. A
huge fan, and you know, all the way back to
my early days at Curb, big On Gernhard, who was
at Curb, was a big part of their career, so
I knew a lot about I knew a lot about
their care anyway, because I was a big fan of
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their growing up growing up. But I've learned a lot
about them and really the depth of their talent from
Phil Gerhardt in a lot of ways to douse it
Integra and their success. But that song has always been
one of my favorite challenge. I've always loved it and
I thought with those Midland guys, it was a perfect
hit and and we were gonna do it. You know,
they were gonna go on tour with us this year
and we were gonna do that song as part of
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our show and everything, and of course that all came.
What happened? Well, I want to warn you if you
ever get to hang out with Howard and David the
Bellamy brothers, let's say for an evening, it will be
the most fun you have ever had in your life.
I just promised I look forward to because I'm a
huge fan of theirs, and I can only imagine. Yes,
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get him to tell you about the Was it the
bull that just discovered their little shall we say, garden
out behind the barn and the bull? Just ask them
what happened to the bull when the grass? So I'm
sure the bull is hey, listen, Oh it's more than that.
But that's beside. No, we have to further this story
(29:43):
because the story is is that that bull went and
tried to mount every cow on the farm. Okay, you
know what I'm saying. Well, and a couple of small automobiles. Well,
but then, and we were in front of an audience
when this happened. I asked Howard away didn't have the
same effect on you. Oh that's a whole another line
(30:08):
of conversation. Man would just say. I would just say,
one of my favorite things is when you're a hammer,
everything's the nail excuse me. I'm I'm making notes. That
is either your next song or your next book. Tim Hey,
(30:29):
the human Jackhammer? Never mind, Um, that's my nickname. Okay
said that? Oh no, it'll be more than the Brad
Paisley poster we have to deal with. Okay, No, it's
a Brad pitt my Brad Paige? Is it? Brad Paisley? Brad? No,
(30:51):
she's not gonna have Brad Paisley on her wall? Are
you kidding? Are you sure? I've check you? Guys? I
am sitting here crying. This is so funny, my mess Carrot,
I ask him he or something? You know when you
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had see when you went number one and I called Mama,
that put you in a really special category. You've had
a number one hit each of the last four decades,
and I know you're I know you're proud of that,
and it's hard to surpass something like that. But is
there anything else on your bucket list at this point?
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You know? I say this a lot, and I feel
I feel like I'm I really feel like I got
a lot more ahead of me than I had behind
and behind me. I feel like that there's a lot
more for me to do, you know, the good thing.
And when I say that country music has brought everything
good in my life, It's given me so many opportunities
to do so many different things. Um. The movies that
I've been able to be involved with and those projects
(31:58):
have been a lot to me and they wouldn't have
come along without country music. So there's probably some some
headroom there and film that that that. There's some things
that I want to accomplish. They're probably in the long term. Um,
So that would be something I I want to do it.
I'd love to do a duet with George Strait somewhere
(32:20):
down the road one of my dream projects. Uh, stre
would be one of my dream projects, something like that. Um.
But I want to be in a world eventually to
where I can do as much good as I can
with my music. Um there's many causes that I can't
down the road. Oh wow. And you know I had
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sort of a similar thought just looking at your entire discography.
Great song, my next thirty years, your next thirty years?
Looking ahead, do you see a whole lot more work?
Do you want to do? You have more, more playtime,
more fun? What do you think? I know, probably for
the next five years, there's gonna be a lot of work,
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for sure. That's as far as far as I can see. Um,
but I know there'll be a lot of working. I
can tell you that down the road. I mean, I'm
not gonna do this forever. I can tell you that
for sure, I'm not gonna. Um. You know, no one
ever says never, and I don't think. I don't know
that I'll ever say I'm like go out and announced
that I'm retiring or anything like that. But but I
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tell you, when when that first grandchild comes, that's probably
going to change my perspective a whole lot about what
my future is gonna be. Yeah, I wouldn't work out
as much, I'll see, but I want to be around
for thirty more years, so I have to work. You know.
You know what, It's really cool. I remember you're talking
about this. Uh. I remember playing golf with you and grandfather. Yes,
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that was the highlight of his life. God rest, he
had that picture hanging in his kitch, God blessing. We
had such a wonderful time that afternoon. So I hope
you're a lot like him when you become well, I
hope so too. But I won't be nearly the man
that he was. But that's something to aspire to, and
I'll forever be grateful for you for what I call
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that was. That was certainly my pleasure. Hey, you mentioned
acting a moment ago, anything on the agenda? Have you
worked on anything? Oh wait a minute, I have another
question I want to ask before that, and I'll go
back to touring. Um, Well, the way things are in
the world these days, do you guys have a daily
conversation about when you're going to get touring? What are
you hearing that sort of thing with your management and
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all that stuff. I don't really have a daily conversation,
but it's certainly forefront and everyone's mind. That's that's for
a lot of reasons. That's how, you know, our bills
get paid and how we pay people to work. And
there's a whole lot of people that are out of
work because touring is not happening. So I think that's
(34:53):
first and foremost. We all want to get back to
work so we can put everybody that works for us
back to work and take care of families that are
part of our organization, and as as every other artist
out there wants to do. You know, I think that
with the vaccines coming. I think that that's going to
be a huge boost to bringing the timeline back when
we can actually get out and do some work. We
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want to do it as badly as anyone else. We
want to be out there as badly as anyone else,
but we want to do it as safety okay. And
to follow up the question I was about to ask,
and that a sense of since productions are pretty much
getting back into operation, uh, do you see yourself doing
films again? There's there's very few productions in operation this year,
(35:35):
Charlie good So there'll be a might see some stuff
happened next summer that that I've been involved in this year.
Why do you have to keep it secret? Well, because
you know, you never want to have to cat out
of the bag. You want to keep people guessing what's
going on. But we've had some cool opportunities because we've
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had time, you know you usually in the past. But
when it comes to film and stuff like that, it's
been tough because I've been touring recording. Um, you know,
somebody has to there has to be a project that
I love and then it has to fall within the
timeline that I'm available and they have to want me
for it and not somebody else. So all those things
have to come come online in order for me to
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be able to do a job. There's been plenty of
things that have gone by that that I loved and
wanted to do that I just didn't have time to do.
It didn't fall within the right with the right time
frame that I had. But this year I had a
little extra time and there were a couple of cool
things went on it, so I was able to do.
What does acting? Charlie was like, whoa, What's that? Was
(36:40):
that kind of movie? Charlie, You're gonna have to expand
your horizons. No, I'm not so. You really are such
a great actor. What does acting do for you that
maybe music can't wow? Whether they're kissing cousins, I think
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in a lot of ways, I mean they're certainly there's
the art about it is all there. I can tell
you that I'm certainly more comfortable on a stage in
front of thirty thousand people than I am on a
set in front of a few people in the camera.
That's one of the most that's one of the hardest
things I've ever done professionally, is acting. I think I
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have so much respect for people who are so good
at that. Because when you can go in there and
you can see somebody in thirty movies and you buy
it every single time they're in a movie and you
completely get lost in the character that they're representing. That's
such a fine, fine, fine art to be able to
pull that off. And look, I've been lucky to be
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and have some good roles and some good movies with
some really good actors who have learned a lot from
um and been able to sort of get past that
that uh, that sort of fitfall. I guess have been
a musician and and every time everybody sees you on
the on screen, all they think about is, you know,
the guy and the cowboy had if they're jumping around
like a chicken on the hot pud. I think that's
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more of a testament not not to my acting skills,
but the people have been able to surround myself with
when I'm back into the roles and the movies and
the projects that I've gotten to Listen, you're a great actor.
And I remember being sitting there with your family. I
was right in front of you when Friday Night Lines
was premiering that to Franklin Theater. Yeah, yeah, and I
didn't get chest Toronto and see what you were doing.
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But were you observing the audience more than the movie
that night? Oh, I was just wanting to get out
of there, and I just wanting to get the hell
out of it. I don't want to see myself. You know.
It took me when when that film was finished it
Billy with the director Peter Burg called and wanted me
to come do this to the screening of it, and
(38:48):
I didn't want to go because I don't want to
see myself. And then Billy Bob calls this look every
the studios calling me to get you to come to
the screening, and I still said, no, I'm going to
go in. Then finally the producer of the movie in
the head of the studio had to call me and
just to really brow beat me and to come and
to see this movie. And so when I when I
saw it, I was you know, for me, it's it's
(39:11):
tough to be objective. So when I see it, I
just I see me up. They're acting, but I know,
but that's because I know I know what I'm I
see me. But hopefully most people get past that. I
think they did. You did a great job of that
in the blindside too. And I have one one more
I have one more pressing question. Okay, And over the
years we've had some interesting responses to this particular question.
(39:33):
Have you ever worn a Tim McGraw t shirt with
your face on it? And whatever the answer is? Why
you know, I don't think I have. Actually, I don't
think i've ever put one of those on Tim McGraw
t shirts. No, I don't think I have. I don't
think I've ever even worn a hat that had my
name on it. It just seems too weird. Yeah, God,
(40:01):
I would feel like I feel like the biggest deal
in the world if I did that. Well, put that
on your bucket list. There's something you haven't done yet.
Maybe you know what I'll do is I find find
one where I really young and where everybody can see
the contrast. Tim, you should see Charlie Chase in his
Charlie Chase pajamas, just so you know it's very cute.
(40:24):
Lorianne and Charlie in any pajamas is not something that
I want I ever experienced, because if I wake up
and I'm seeing Charlie Chase and his pajamas, that it's
been a bad night. Oh yes, Timmer, we love you
(40:44):
so much. You know, you are so much fun to
be around. But then there are just so many deep
layers to you. You're such a good man and a
good guy, and uh, we're just proud to know you,
and we're just so happy for uh some wonderful milestones
in your career and we look forward to so many more.
Thank you. I feel slaying about you, guys, and always
(41:05):
love talking to you on and you'll have been a
huge part of my career from the very beginning and
we're proud of that. Tim. Take care of yourself, buddy.
We love you and stay safe. Okay, okay, We've always
had a good connection with Timm Garraw And you know,
I do recall that night at the Franklin Theater when
Friday Night Lights was on, and this is Tim's first
acting role, right, so I know he had to be nervous.
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He was sitting right behind me, his mom was there
and a lot of other family members, and we were
watching him on the street. I turned around, I said, man,
you know when when his scenes was over and when
something else, I turned around it man, you're good, and
he just kind of smiled and sort of slipped down
in his seat, and he was right. He was ready
to get the hell out of there, because he said
was nervous. Right, he was really good. He doesn't think
(41:48):
he's good, but you know, it's interesting to me. It's
interesting that he wants to attempt something, keep trying, keep
getting better. I love that competitive Barrett in him. You know.
The thing is, um, I'm guessing what I'm reading between
the lines there that he has some stuff. It's coming
off this year. Oh yeah, I think he's He sort
of plainly said it. And can I go back really
(42:09):
quickly to the premiere of Friday Night Lights. I was
there as well, and at the after party, I asked Faith,
probably a very inappropriate question, well, because you know, in
the movie, Tim McGraw was shirtless and he had a
really hairy chest, I mean really Harry, And so I
(42:30):
asked Faith, is that really all of his hair or
is that something that they did back in the makeup
room or whatever? And she was like, no, she goes,
that is really what his chest looks like. Do we
need to know that? Well, these days with all those
ripped abs, he's all shaved and smooth man, he is
looking at well, please know this friends, we have your
(42:52):
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