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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It is officially autumn. Candy corn is already on the
shelves at the supermarket. Porches are being festooned with plump,
potted mums. It may be a little early yet for
boots and sweaters, but I'll be pulling the sweaters out soon.
Drinking spice latte for me spiced hot tea, winding our
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way through corn mazes, and wandering through pumpkin patches in
search of the perfect orange gore to carve into a
jack O Lannard masterpiece. Our funfal traditions help to distract
us from the fact that the long, warm summer days
are fast disappearing, making this time feel more like hello
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than goodbye, shifting our focus and perceptions to the good,
to the gains, to the bountiful harvest instead of the sunlight.
Where that's the not so secret recipe for gratitude, right there,
Be grateful for the blessings. There's a fabulous family movie
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coming out soon celebrating fall farming and fortune. Well fortune
if that means winning the grand prize in a pumpkin
growing contest. Oh yes, everybody was after the prize. Money
Grow is a delightful and slightly zany story that takes
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place in the pumpkin capital of the world. Stoic farmer
Dinah Little begrudgingly takes in her spirited niece Charlie, But
Charlie isn't an ordinary child. Charlie has a special knack
for connecting with plants that quietly reflects her own longing
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to feel and be seen, mostly to be loved. As
the whole tale prepares for the annual pumpkin growing contest,
Charlie sets her sights on winning with the help of
quirky Arlow plot and pumpkins thicken as rival growers pull
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every trick in the book. Charlie and Dinah's bond grows
right along with her pumpkin, and together they learn the
real prize is joy, laughter and family. Dinah, who is
the stoic farmer the ant played by Golda Reshuvel, who
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you might recognize from her role as the impossibly huge
wig wearing Queen Charlotte on the hit Netflix series Bridgerton.
This renowned British actress is known for her stage work
and her breakout screen roles, including international acclaim as Queen
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Charlotte and the series twenty twenty three prequel Queen Charlotta
Bridgerton's story. Her film credits span multiple genres, as do
her television roles. She's a veteran of the stage. In fact,
we're going to talk to her right after she steps
off stage, having tackled leading roles in Othello A, Christmas, Carol, Elektra,
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Carmen Jones, as well as Shakespeare classics. Golda will return
as Queen Charlotte in Bridgerton Season four and will appear
in the upcoming BBC One drama series The dream Lands
and adaptation of the novel Dreamland by Rosa Ranke and Ghee.
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But before she does any of that, she's going to
sit down with us today to chat about grow. I
can't wait to meet Golda Rashovo and talk farming, family
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love someone with Delilah, We're gonna jump right in here
because I know you're busy, busy, busy. Yeah, thank you
for joining us.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh it's a pleasure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I've just got off stage at one of the London theaters,
so it's good.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
To be here.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It's good to have you. Folks here in America probably
don't know you nearly as well as those in Europe
because you are on stage all the time. What are
you doing now?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I'm doing a show called Not Your Superwoman and it's
on at the Bush Theater in Shepherd's Bush. Yeah, it's
a two hander with the lovely Lititia, right, and we're
having a ball.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
We've just opened, so yeah, we've got about six weeks left.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Well, I just saw you this week in Grow, the
movie we're going to be talking about, Yes, but I
fell in love with you as Queen Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know what I fell in love with is your
side eye, girl friend. You have the most expressive eyes
of any woman on stage and screen, I believe.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh gosh, that's very kind.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
That's very kind the looks that you give. And not
justin Bridgeton as Queen Charlotte, but in Grow you were very,
very communicative with just the eyes just the look, just
one look, just one look, and you had me cracking up.
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So we're going to talk about Grow this delightful little
movie that's coming out just in time for fall. And
my podcast producer reached out to me and she said,
this movie is definitely for you, and I said, well,
tell me about it. She said, well, first off, it's
about gardening, and I am addicted to my gardens. Do
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you garden in real life?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yes, I do. I'm growing potatoes at the moment. They're
coming on really well. I've got carrots. I've got a vine,
so my grapes are doing really really well. And I've
got a massive mulberry tree, which I'm very very excited about.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And we had some amazing fruit on the tree this year.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Do you know what I just learned, Golda, you can
eat the mulberry leaves. Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I did know that, Yes, I did know that.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I'm late to the party. I didn't know that I've
got I've got a new mulberry tree. I have never
grown mulberries. They don't grow well in my zone. But
we're we're trying it with a hearty one and it's
probably six foot tall now. And I just saw a
delightful little video showing me how to use the leaves,
and I guess they're super nutricious. Have you tried them?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We didn't try them this year, but yes, I have
tried them.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Nice. Nice, So grow the movie Grow, Yes, growing gardens,
growing pumpkins in particular. But the little girl, Charlie, the
character of Charlie, your niece that you get custody of,
has the the abandoned niece has the ability to communicate
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and to understand plants. Yeah, which in the movie is
a big deal, but for those of us that are
going gardeners, it's it's common knowledge.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, she has green fingers. That's say superpower.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Her superpower is green finger So my podcast producer said, says,
you are so gonna love this, uh movie because it's
about gardening. Great, but mostly it's about building family.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yes, that found family, you know, but we're always very
focused on the kind of traditional family, aren't we, And
you know, there's nothing wrong with that. I celebrate that,
but I think there's something really beautiful about found family
as well, that you know, we come together not necessarily
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from the same kind of walks of life, but yet
we have connection, we have community, with each other.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
We're woven together.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
We grow together, we grow together.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
And I think that movie, you Know, Grow, is a
real celebration of that found family and just kind of
working it out.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You know, I have to share this with you, and
hopefully you will, you'll know in your heart how impactful
it was. I have five children in my house right now,
none of which did I give birth to. The oldest
at home right now is sixteen, the youngest is five,
and there's a lot of the same trauma we see
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in Charlie, only you know, for reals. And we sat
down to watch it together as a family, and when
they realized, especially the three youngest, realized what was going
on it you know, it took a minute for them
to understand when she was trying to run away and
trying to get on the plane. But when they finally
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understood it was the scene where she was trying to
sneak out at night, and your character, the auntie said,
you know, wouldn't it be easier to go out the.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Door, Yeah, if you want to go, if you want
to go to use the stairs.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah yeah. And your character was so loving and so accepting,
despite yourself, I think, or despite the character trying hard
not to. It felt like the character didn't wasn't really
ready to let the walls down, and yet you did.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I think there's you know, we describe her as a
grumpy farmers.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
You know what I mean, That doesn't really She's been
on our own for a long time, and she's kind
of set in her ways.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
And this child comes along and literally, you know, pushes.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Her off her center in a really good way, and
I think she steps, you know, Dinah steps up to
the plate.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And finds love and nurture.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Not only in herself, but from Charlie and from the
wider community. So there's some really great scenes in the shop,
you know, with the shop assistant, which I love because.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
It takes Dinah out of her comfort zone.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
But yet through the journey of of the film, you know,
there's a.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Few scenes where she's kind of accepted in the shop,
do you know what I mean, And that journey has really,
you know, come full circle, and the community, the wider
community becomes quite interesting to her, and you know, they
all fall in love with each other, which I think
is great.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
One of the very sweet subtle things that my kids
picked up on right away. I've watched it twice. We
watched it twice together. But was how when Charlie first
arrived in your life, Dina's life, there was a motor
in the middle of the dining table.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yes, yeah, and they were eating bake beans on toast.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
My kids are like, they call me nine Grammy nine.
Why why is there a motor on the dining table?
And I said, well, I think she's used to living
alone and she was probably worked got the motor. And
then as the movie goes on, the kitchen becomes a
warm and then it becomes this delightful.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah montage. There's that beautiful montage, isn't there where it
kind of.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Just been there's color, color, color becomes light coming through
the windows.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Tell Tell whoever did that. I don't know who designed
the sets, who came up with that, But that transition
from the very dark, very stark, very utilitarian yeah kitchen
to the loving family farmhouse that it that love transformed
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it into.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I think you're right, definitely, And I think there's.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
A really good metaphor for the seasons, for you know,
plants and all that kind of stuff, that there's a
lovely metaphor that we go through the seasons, you know, winter,
all of that kind of stuff, spring, summer, you know,
and I think it really reflects within that montage and
the color changes, you know, bright and as you say,
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the kind of the curtains are drawn back and light
is let in.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It was beautiful. And my kids picked up on that.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
That's very cool, and.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
In grow the fact that they that her mother, who,
by the way, you work with in Bridgerton, Madam Delaquace,
Like what a second, I know these two the character
of her mother was not painted to be a bad person.
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She made bad choices, but in the end, when she
was there for her, they were I was crying and
my kids were cheering because Mom's there and they didn't
see Charlie's mom. They their mom.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. That's really powerful.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I think it's important, isn't it to kind of show
all sides of life and all sides of struggle, you know,
whatever your struggle is, to be able to be empathetic about.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
And I don't think that there is ever any kind
of judgment between the sisters, although there is frustration, you know,
and a kind of misunderstanding of their life and of
growing up and you know, wanting different things or being
forced into a life that possibly you didn't want yourself,
you know, with Dinah. But I think what we wanted
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to really show is that there is still love there,
you know that in the end, Mom, Charlie's mum recognizes
that there is a place for Charlie with Dinah, you know,
but also that she's she is welcome whenever that was
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she wants, she wants to come back into the fold.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
That was so well done.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
It's not natural for her, you know, and that's not
a bad thing, and it should be nurtured and there
should be.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Place for that within family, within found family.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
That was so well done because normally, especially with kids
who uh you know, are in placement or go through
those experiences, the parents is always painted to be a
villain and they're not. They're not. And I loved that
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the storyteller that the movie did not paint her to
be a villain, but to be a flawed human that
we all are. And I loved that that for me,
that was the whole message of the movie, that you
can make really bad choices, even if you're a good person,
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but there's redemption, that love can redeem everything.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, good good, I'm glad you got that. That was
really important for us to portray.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, my kids got it, which is what I was
going to tell you.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Thank you for fantastic, very powerful.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
It was such a sweet little movie. But for them
it was transformative.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, And it opened up conversations that they have not
been able to have I and so watching Grow the
next day, there were questions that had very little to
do with Charlie and everything to do with Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
And I think that's that's why we do it, right.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I mean, that's that's what storytelling is all about for me,
reaching out and touching people or bringing people in to
the conversation, you know, and opening up our hearts and
our minds to ideas and struggles and joys and fears.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
We can talk about them, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
And if art can kind of push those conversations, the
difficult conversations, I think, you know, long live us.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
As creatives and storytellers.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
As far as I'm concerned, I love I love hearing
that's that's really that's great, really really great. Well, it
was they were able to express themselves in that way
through this movie.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
For me, it was fun to watch, but for them
It was so healing and so transformative. And I'm a
gardener and I'm always trying to get the kids in
the garden with me, and they're like, oh, we got
to go pick the tomato hows today. But now they're like,
next year, can we have a pumpkin contest here at
the farm. Of course, of course we'll do a pumpkin
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contest at the farm.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
So that's going to be a lot of fun. The
other thing I wanted I wanted to bring up was, well,
how your character from you know, the world here in
America knows you as Queen Charlotte with the wigs, the weggs,
how you so comfortably transformed to Dinah in overalls will
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your hair and a bony listen.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I can tell you that was It was a joy
not to be in the chair, the make cup chair
for like two.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And a half hours.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
To be in overalls and Wellington boots was like, yeah, liberating.
But it's about the truth, I think, you know, and
finding the truth and always trying to.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, put that across.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I love the investigation of human beings, you know, I
find us really really fascinating. And the reason why, you know,
I took on this.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Role is because it was completely different to Queen Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
And as an artist, as an actor, you want to
fletch your muscles in different ways and discover different ideas
and different perspectives on humanity.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But I think the core, the core thing to find
is truth.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
So you find the truth of Dinah, you find the
truth of all of those different scenes. I do that
with Queen Charlotte. I do that with every role. I'm
doing it with this role now, playing a mother who
has trauma, who has what's the word.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
And looking for issues with her mental health.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
But it's about it's about really honing in the truth
for that character. I always take the hand of my
characters right at the beginning, and I always say to them,
let's go hand in hand. I'll guide you and you
can guide me, and we can learn from each other.
But let's go on this journey together.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
So off stage, without the lights, without the makeup, who
do you relate to more Dinah or Queen.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Shot Oh, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Like if I were just to come and have a
cup of tea, I'm sitting here drinking some delicious cinnamon tea.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
No, that's it's an interesting question because I think I'm
a bit of I mean, Charlotte is definitely her own
entity now, she's her own monster.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
You know, she was originally crafted.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Out of my mother's sense and sensibility. You know that
originally the right at the core moment, first moments of
creating that character, I reached for my mother.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That is fascinating. That is fascinating because your your mom
is from England, right and your father was.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
She Diana exactly. Yeah, and my mom loved, you know,
manor houses.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
We were dragged around manor houses and castles in this
country and afternoon tea was you.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Know, I was brought up on all of that.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Stuff, that kind of quintessential English stuff. And so yeah,
when first creating that character, I really tapped into all
of that. And my mom, you know, she had a
wit about her definitely, So there's definitely a little bit
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of that in Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
But Charlotte is created now, you know, we spent six
years with her. She's created into her own, her own
little thing. Dinah, Dinah.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Again, I think is is you know, part of why
I love nature.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And I got to learn to drive a tractor, which
I was like, yes, this is a dream come too
so and.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
It was so One of my favorite parts was where
you had the hammer to open the door and get
the car door.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I know, it's great. I had a car like that
in my teens, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I had those cars where you're like, yeah to color,
pump everything up to get it going.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I didn't have the kind of screwdriver in the in
the ignition, not that bad, but you.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Know that's yeah. I love that. And I love getting
down and.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Dirty in my real life and getting in there and
growing potatoes and tomatoes and grapes.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
And you know, today is potato harvest day at my farm.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Oh is it?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah? Mine haven't flowered yet, so I'm waiting for them
to flower.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
So you guys are a couple of months behind us,
were behind you. The vines are dead. Time to dig
them up. And I love potatoes because you only have
to plant them once usually and then they come back here.
It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I can't write.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I can't write, but I mean, you know, to answer
your question, I think all.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
The characters are a part of you if you're seeking
the truth.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
And I think you are a part of all the characters,
for sure, but I love the fact that you started
with the core, the essence of your mother. As soon
as you said that, I thought, oh my gosh, if
I did a character based on my mother. I'm a
big woman. I mean I'm sitting down, but I'm five
ten and my mother made me look short. And her
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personality was even bigger than her frame. You know, she
a room couldn't contain her personality.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Wow, amazing, that's beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
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Speaker 1 (26:51):
I want everyone to go and see it. Whether you're
a child, a parent of a child, If you love
to garden, you are a especially going to love garden wars,
where they're competing against each other's That's a whole nother
story in and of itself that we didn't even touch on.
But yet, my friends and I who love to garden
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have something on Facebook called garden Wars every year where
we try to one up each other with the photos,
and then we sneak into each other's gardens and take
photos of their plants and claim them as our own.
We get or we go to state parks and take
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photos of the you know, three hundred year old trees
and claim them as our own. Just to be brats.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Very similar, very similar to Grow.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And when I'm watching Grow and I'm seeing the guards
and the little cameras watching the bees inside, I'm like, oh,
this is Garden Wars on a whole new level.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I know you can get some really good ideas from the.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Film, great ideas, uh so, whether but even if you're
even if you don't garden, even if you don't have kids,
even if you're not a farmer, it is And there's
so many sweet stories when when your character Dinah finally
decides you're not putting up with the nonsense that your
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farm hand is giving you, and you're like, why am
I doing this? You know you could see that light
go on and and I have those aha moments all
the time. I'm like, why am I putting up with this?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Exactly exactly, And yeah, that is I mean, I think
it comes from the injection of this amazing young girl
who comes into life and you know, she wants to
make her life better for this found family in this community,
and yeah, it's good to see her empowered in that way.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It's a delightful movie. I want everyone to go see Grow.
And Madame Delacroix, Catherine Yes, played My sister plays your
little sister beautifully. Yeah, it's just a great story. Great story,
good for the heart, good for the soul, good for
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the earth. Thank you so much for spending this time
with us, Golda, thank you for sharing your gift and
your talent.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Thank you, it's been a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Grow, featuring Dinah, Charlie, and a host of cheery, cheeky,
mad cap characters as large as the giant Pumpkins Being Tended,
opens in US theaters on October seventeenth. My kids and
I got a sneak peek and we can't stop talking
about it. As a family that spends a lot of
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time in the dirt, waiting for things to sprout, watching
them grow, and finally hopefully getting to enjoy the fruits
of our labors, this farming story resonated with us on
that level, more so as the five children that I'm
currently raising that live in my house. They came into
my heart. They came into my home under very similar
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circumstances as Charlie, and they are now growing and taking
root and flourishing. And they loved love the character of
Charlie in the movie, and they were pulling for her.
They were cheering for her in the same way I'm
cheering for them. I'm sure Grow is going to quickly
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become a family favorite fall classic to be watched every autumn,
right up there with It's the Great Pumpkins Charlie Brown.
You can get all the information you need to find theaters, showtimes,
and tickets by visiting Growthefilm dot com. Keep an eye
out for Golda in the upcoming Bridgerton season four and
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any number of stage and screen productions she may be
featured in. Fall is here, Fill a dish with candy, corn, bacon,
apple pie, pull out the soup and comfort food recipes,
and cozy in. I'll help ease you into this new
season by sharing stories from the heart and playing your
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favorite songs every night. And please, with all the things
going on in the world, let's all double down in
our efforts to love someone