December 14, 2021 • 34 mins
When Christmas Comes Around... it can bring all kinds of emotions. Kelly Clarkson, my guest on today's episode of LOVE SOMEONE, speaks (or sings) to them all on her new holiday album. My favorite? It's got to be "Christmas Isn't Cancelled (Just You)"! Kelly puts heartache in the rearview with this one, and is moving forward with hope, happiness, and a strong belief in herself - creating some much needed inspiration for others facing down the holidays after a painful breakup. Join us as we chat about the album, about life, kids, (and napping in the make-up chair.) We had so much fun catching up, and I'm sure you'll enjoy it too! ~ Delilah
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Christmas comes but once a year, and I can't believe
that it's a rival is so imminent. The older I get,
the faster the seasons, the years, The time seems to
fly by, which is a very good reminder to savor
every precious moment of every day that we've got. I've
made so many amazing memories with my kids this past year.
(00:25):
We've loved talking about the beach, going camping. Oh boy,
we've done a lot of camping over the summer. We
had water park adventures, trips to the fair harvest festivals,
and all the cooking and canning that I did this
pass ball. Now it's time to make more memories, to
deck the halls and dig out our Christmas cheer out
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of the storage bins that we tucked it away from
last year. We have a lot of fun traditions like
matching footie pajamas and our Christmas Day scavenger hunt wearing
our matching footie pajamas, and we love having new experiences
like those were introduced to when someone new joins our family,
(01:06):
or we're lucky enough to host guests that share their
own cherish memories or foods traditions, recipes, their holiday activities,
and Christmas can also be a tough time. It can,
especially if you are missing a loved one, if you've
lost somebody, if you've gone through a divorce, a breakup,
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if you've lost someone to COVID. That's why it's important
to blend the old and the new. By keeping those
traditions that remind us of where we came from and
adding new ones that remind us that there is always
something to look forward to, we're more likely to embrace
change and all the wonderful opportunities that it brings our way.
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One new thing this holiday season has brought to us
as some great new holiday music. I've been showcasing some
of them here on Love Someone In. Today I get
to introduce you to even more great new music, a
whole new album of Christmas tunes from one of the
most popular artists of our era, perhaps one of the
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most popular artists right now. Her star is Twinkling Bright.
Today's Guest has had worldwide sales of more than twenty
five million albums and forty million singles. You heard those
numbers right. She was the winner of the first season
of American Idol and her debut single, A Moment Like
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This quickly went to number one on Billboard's Hot one hundred.
It would take me the entire thirty minutes that I
dedicate to each podcast episode to run through her awards,
her accolades, her Grammys, her am a IS, her Academy
of Country Music Artist Awards. She's won them all and
even two Daytime Emmy's. Now She's got her own daytime
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talk show. Is a judge on American Idol, has written
two children's books, is a mom to to be Beautiful littles,
And in addition to all of her writing, recording and
sharing new music, she still has found time to drop
by and spend time with us today and chat with
us on Love Someone. We'll be back to talk to
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Loves Someone is someone that everybody loves. Hello, Kelly, You're
like you are like so adored and be loved and
you always have been, but it's like your star is
twinkling bright these days. I feel like I have a
list to people that would disagree with you, but just
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think about a few of them and yourselfs. I'm just
saying I feel like there's definitely like not everybody but no,
but you know what, I think, my whole career, my
whole life. Rather, I'm like, it's cool if you're not
into it, but I'm just gonna like do me. If
you like it, that's cool. If you don't, that's cool.
I'd say there's many many meal in too like it,
so that's cool. We'll focus on those Yeah, well on
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those alter life like that. So before we started the podcast,
you said that you get really tired of being in
hair and makeup, but it's like the TV show and
the specials and the album, Like do they have people
coming to do your hair when you're passing out at night? Now?
Oh god, I always look at glow my makeup artists,
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like you think you could do this me laying down?
It's like I just close my eyes while you do this. Yeah,
it's hard enough for me to just sit still. I'm
like a d H D. So um no, I try
and focus so hard for them to stay and get
it done, you know. And then like a little bit,
I think it's like an hour and five team they
usually have with me in the chair. I call it
the chair as if it's like like the torture chamber,
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like the torture chair. Yeah, but but it is amazing,
Like they're artists, right, So I come in and I mean,
you're looking at me right now, like and I look fine,
But I'm just saying I go out me and color
is real different. Like it's like I come out and
I'm like, I've call him Harry Potter. It's my Harry
Potter squad um. But you know, I don't mind doing
it for work. But yeah, I was telling you in
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the before we got on here, I was like, I
have to be paid a pretty good amount of money
to be putting hair makeup on. I'm glad that that
you are all natural and uh, just your adorable self
with me because white people's natural look. But do you
know my husband likes it better when I don't have
any makeup on. A lot of men are like that.
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I think it's cool to like both. You know, sometimes
we like to get all dolled up and sometimes you know,
we just like, I'm cool with my face, like as
is I'm cool with your face. How old are your kids, Kelly?
Five and seven? And in school? Are they doing in
person school? Are they doing a hybrid? Are you home schooling? No? No,
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they're in school. My kids are like me, They're completely social,
like creatures. They did not do well like I know
a lot of kids do homeschool. My my sister's kids
actually do homeschool, but and they thrive in that. But
like my kids would never they look forward to friendships
and and engaging with other kids and dance class and
all that kind of stuff. So you know, they're in
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school and God bless, like we're all working hard to
keep all our kids in school so they don't have
to be because that's it really hard, especially on kids
that learning to read, and like saying focus, Like those
teachers a starting hard enough to get all those kids
to focus in person, let alone on zoom. Yeah, like
you I have way wicked bad a d D and
so do all my kids. Yeah, my my boy is focused.
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But I was like, thank you God that there's in
school this year at least for now, thank you, Oh God. Yeah,
I mean, and it's one of those things too, it's like, look,
we'd all been trained to be teachers like that. Actually
you have to be educated to know how to educate people.
It's like there's a lot going to be lost here
in this generation, like because it takes, you know, someone
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who actually knows what they're doing. And I would know
that My mom's a teacher and she was amazing at
it um and we're not all you know, gifted with that,
and it's it was really hard on a lot of people.
I know, my Manny wanted to kill herself. Some of
us are a lot less gifted than others with that.
Oh my gosh, I actually love learning and I don't
mind teaching. I just don't have that thing called patients.
So you and I were like cut from the same cloth,
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only you've got talent and I don't. I have four
that are still at home, and I am just so
glad that from now we got you know, in person learning,
and I'm praying that that continues through the years. And
it's also like parents, like you know, dad's, mom's, all
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of us like and even nanny's caretakers. It's that it's
your time to like get stuff done too, Like while
they're at school, there's so much to get done. So
and it didn't in my household get done. Oh my god.
I was like, screw it, Like left and right. I
was like, and that's on the back burner too. Yeah,
everything was kind of on the back burner. Yeah. So
(08:58):
Kelly Clarkson, we're gonna talk about your new Christmas album,
which is just like chock full. If somebody wants to
dance around the Christmas tree, like not sit and we're
fuzzy mittens and drink hot cocoa all day, but like
get up and and dance a little bit around the
Christmas Tree. They need to get your new Christmas album
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because it is full of fun, fun songs. Yeah, I
mean it definitely has a lot of energy to it.
Um it it kind of I mean I ended up
naming it when Christmas Comes Around. Well one, because it
was a lyric I liked in one of the songs
on the record, which actually isn't when you can dance
to Merry Christmas is the wanted to know but um.
But for the most part, it's got all these emotions
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and energies that one might be feeling around Christmas. I
think we're all like engineered from childhood to be like, no,
you must be happy. This is Christmas time. This is
happy time. And it's not always a perfect moment for everyone. Um,
and that's okay. And so you know, when Christmas comes around,
it's there's kind of like a feeling on there. Like
each song there's there's different vibes, but there definitely is
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it's more high energy than there's more like up tempos
than you know, ballad and fun energy. You have to
do that if it's Christmas too, like you have. I
think it was also therapeutic for me, Like it was
like I got out obviously some emotions, whether it was
sarcastic with like the single Christmas or something, or I'm
glad he admitted that because I'm listening to this going
(10:22):
oh that was very therapeutic. Oh gosh, yes, yeah. Well honestly,
I wrote the song like this is t m I,
but I've I sometimes come up with ideas in the shower.
So I was in actually most times, and I was
just in there and I was maybe just crying a
tiny bit. But crying in the shower is good because
the tears mixed with the shower water. You know what happened, right, Yeah?
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You walk out, your eyes are red. You're like, no,
I just got chempoo in my eyes. I wasn't the
most allergies even in the shower. Um, No, I was
just I was, you know, just going through something. I
was just like, oh, and I just felt like the
last two years my you know, everyone, not just my friends,
but I feel like a lot of things been canceled
and we always talk about it, and I'm like, you
know what, I was like, I'm supposed to make this
Christmas record, and I was like, I love Christmas music.
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So I was like, I don't know how to be happy,
so maybe I could be sarcastic. So I ended up
literally off of just a you know, everything might be canceled,
you know, we might be canceled, but Christmas won't be.
So I ended up writing it off that that whole
thing anybody who's gone through a painful breakup the last
couple of years. Thank god, I'm not on the list anymore,
but Christmas isn't canceled, just to you. I don't know
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which I like more, the lyrics, the tune that gets
stuck in your head all day, or the artwork that
you use for it. Oh my gosh, are you talking
about the lyric video? Yes? Oh my god. So the
lyric video was so funny. So my, they were like,
we have this idea, and they kind of brought up
three different ones and I was like, Oh, this old
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movie poster thing. That's kind of cool because the whole
sound is kind of vintage. There's like maybe one or
two songs that aren't complete vintage sounding on the album,
and so um, I like that. And then I didn't
realize what they were gonna do, but that whole team
put that together and I thought it was so funny
how they played out the lyrics because I think they
kind of played off the fact that no one's ever
really released a breakup Christmas song before, because like, why
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would you? That's kind of messed up, but I did,
so they kind of played off of that, here's the
thing for for me and my job blaying dedications. Christmas
can get really tough because, yeah, you know, people call
and they're going through a breakup or they went through
a breakup, and I'm like, all I had was Wham
Last Christmas. That was it. That was the only hard
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Candy Christmas. Dolly Park the other one hard Oh my gosh,
um No, that's such a great song. But other than
like hard Candy Christmas or Last Christmas, there really aren't
songs too you go to, especially like I like happy
sounding music, Like I the juxtapositions of the message and
how happy the vibe is is what I loved. I
love that it sounds like it's a happy song. You
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nailed it with this, and and it is a happy song.
It is a very happy, empowering song because what the
song says is too bad for you Christmas doesn't again, well,
I'm gonna put every damn light in the world on
my house and I'm not gonna sit here and cry
any more over you. That's about how it wins. Yeah,
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and God blessed. It's one of those things where I
feel like it's it's a blessing to be able to like,
it's hard to like put real stuff that happens to
you in music, but I don't honestly know how to
go any other way because I feel like we do
all go through experiences to like share them and not
feel so alone and then um and how eco centric
to think you're alone and that obviously we all go
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through tough things. Um, but it was a very therapeutic
album overall for me to make. Okay, So a question
about another song that I have played more than once,
Glow with Chris Stapleton. Oh, I love that one. Did
you were you with him? Did you guys get to
sing that together? Or did you know so well this
song has had any lives? I feel like this song
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was actually a completely different song. It was slowed down,
like a completely different vibe, um, different lyrics, different meaning
like everything was different. And it was gonna go on
my record, my actual album that we have, but I'm
not releasing it. But anyway, and then I ended up point,
you know what, that doesn't really fit with the whole
vibe of what we're doing for my album. But I
love the songs, which I love the the energy, I
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love the soulfulness of it. And so anyway, I ended
up speeding it up and completely reworking the track with
my musical director and also my producer, and I ended
up writing Glow to it and changing the lyrics and
some of the melodies, and the writers were really cool
about it because I was like, dude, I know, I'm
not trying to tear up the song. I just I
love it so much, but I feel like it has
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a life and we haven't found the space for it yet.
And so I ended up writing this Christmas on to it,
and my makeup artist her name is Gloria, but we
call her Glow. And I was like, you know what,
there's only so many things you can say, and I've
already written a whole other Christmas or you know, songs
to that. So I was like, Glow. It was like,
that's kind of really beautiful, like because some meant and
so I ended up writing, even Christmas can't compete with
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your glow. That was the first line I kind of
wrote for that, and I wrote it off my makeup
artist name, and then so I ended up writing this
whole song to it, and it was kind of sweet,
which was kind of difficult because I definitely was not
in that while writing this. But if you're vibing off
the glow of your makeup artist, you can take your
heart there. Yeah. Well, I was like, it was like
her her name was just kind of cool, and I thought,
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I never really saying about that for Christmas, and so
I wrote this whole song and God on his Truth.
Chris Dimpleton is one of my favorite singers on Earth,
and I've liked him before he blew up. I even
said this. I mean, I like way before he was
like with another band and he was doing this tribute
with Rebelling years ago, and I was like, who the
hell is this guy? His voice is just magical and
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I've just been a fan for so long, and I
just never asked to sing with him because I just
didn't want to hear no. So so I finally just
was like, I was like, I'm just gonna ask him.
I'm such a fan anyway, So I I ended up
asking him and he said yes, So it's so magical.
I love it. It is so magical. And when people
get your your Christmas album, if they will listen to
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the lyrics, I mean, it's a fun song and a
beautiful um you know, the melody and and all the
instruments and Chris's voice, you know what. I don't drink
and his voice makes me want to drink whiskey. His
voice sounds like I can't say that on your show.
It sounds like the best feeling you could ever possibly have. Sonically, yes, yeah,
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but sonically that's what it would sound like exactly. Yeah. Yeah,
but the lyrics are so sweet and I was writing
them down because Lights on the Tree can't compete with
your glow. Yeah, I love that when you love someone
to think that, to say that about you or maybe
you have that. I just mean, like, it's just a
really beautiful I love. I like create little movies in
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my head or I play movies that I love. I
love actually always pops up because I love that movie.
But I like play a little you know, MiNet through
whatever I'm writing, And yeah, that would be awesome. So
can I share something with you? Yes, When I was
your age and even a little bit older, I never
dreamed I would have somebody who thinks that about me,
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you know, because I had just train wreck after train
wreck of relationships and failed marriages and you know that.
Oh yeah, oh yeah. I don't know which I've been
experienced more grief from being fired off the air or
grief from being fired as a wife or a girlfriend.
Oh my god, there's so many things I don't know
about you that I'm finding out right now. What. Wow.
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And I was single and it was Christmas, and I
was the mother of eight kids, and it was coming
up on Christmas time and I was going through a
horrible breakup. I mean, the hardest of my life because
the relationship that I was in I wasn't supposed to
be in, and so I couldn't even share with people.
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There were very few people in my inner circle who
even knew what I was going through, and those who
did know a few of them were doing the I
Told you so dance because girlfriend, we tried to warn
you this was going to happen. And anyway, man, thank
you to my friends for not saying that. Yeah, well
maybe I was just saying it in my head, but
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they were thinking it, I'm sure. Anyway, Um, I can
tell you now, you know, several years down the road,
fifteen years now with the man who thinks I glow,
It's real and it exists, and God's got somebody so
precious waiting for you. All the stuff that I went through,
I had to go through to make me the woman
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that I am so I could be in the relationship
that I'm in. Oh, and I agreed to, like, I
don't I regret nothing, like I even like, you know,
unfortunate things that happened in your life are hard things
because we can do hard things. Glenn Doyle one of
my favorites. Um, but also I feel like that's what
shapes you, and it's what makes you a better person.
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It's what makes you recognize. Okay, I missed those red flags.
I missed that, all right, ignore about the purpose. I
missed road signs like bridge out stop. Now, I missed
I missed those. You know. I almost called my next
album red Flag Collector, Like like I was like, I mean,
why are you just picking them up and sticking them
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like in a yeah, just collecting them a bag like
a golf bag, just shoving the red legs. And I
was apparently wanting to do some kind of exhibit with
at a lot of them. Um. But but here's the thing,
and not only about for other people, but yourself. It's
like you don't recognize things like in yourself. But I
you know, coming back to what you said, it's one
of those things. So you know, because I've now been
divorced for a minute but separated for well over a year,
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and it's one of those things that's so you didn't
expect or anything. But at the same time, like people
you have already had, I've already had people be like,
let me know when you're you know, wanting to do,
let me know what it's like. You know what, I
don't think you have to have someone with you all
the time. Like I really do enjoy my work, my kids,
my creative you know self that sometimes I got stifled,
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like in relationships. It's hard to be as creative as
I can because I wear my heart on my sleep.
So I really enjoy and then maybe in the future,
you know, you never know, well I do know I
won't get married again, but I just mean, you never
know about love. But it's one of those things where
it's like I think we're engineered, especially from where I'm from,
so like have to have that and I don't have
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that need. And I think that's also what you learned
about yourself going through hard things. But I have had,
you know, in my head and in my moment. I'm
able to write those lyrics because I have had that
where I thought, oh man, they think I glow and like,
I have had that feeling and that's magical. To even
have had that experience is amazing. Not everyone gets that,
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so but I, you know, I'm not one of those
people is gonna like poopoo on like you know what was,
because what was is what got me here, like you said,
But I will say it's very therapeutic I going through
divorce and going through hard times in your life, Like,
I'm so happy I have writing and I'm so have
music because that's that's my outlet. That's how I get
through it and that's how I kind of figure out
what's happening. And man, not having that, I don't know
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how I would have done that. For me. It's art.
I paint or I draw or create something out of
clay and it takes over my world for a minute.
And uh, that's how that's how I work through working
with their hands and that's when me too, I've turned
to gardening. I just love my hands in the store
like I love like gardening and stuff. Oh man, I
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want to just sit down and talk with you and
get to know you more because I mean beyond this,
because you are so delightful and I could teach you
a lot about gardening. Oh my god. Really, I'm like
a nerd. I ask everything, my brother laws of green thumb.
I have apps. Okay, there's an app you gotta get.
Let me see what is called. I think it's called
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picture this. Have you heard of this picture this? Yes? Yes,
I literally was just using picture this in my friender
because I was like, wait, I thought this tree was
something else, and then I was using it and then
I found out it was a simmon. So my personmetries
are loaded this year. They are breaking, the branches are
breaking tree. Yeah, little orange fruits. Yeah. So yeah, picture this.
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You know why I like it so much because it
makes me sound smart. Well, and you get define out
all the things about it and what you can use
it for. Then you google, like what you know, does
their healing properties? You're like all these other things. So
it's like I find I'm a nerd. About stuff like that. So, uh, sorry,
I got sidetracked when you said gardening, because I am
a rabid gardener. But my peeps here are reminding me
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that we're supposed to be talking about your Christmas album.
And I want to know I have a couple of
favorites now that I've listened to it. What are your favorites?
I know that's like saying which ile do you like
the most? I know you can't there's no way answer
I actually can. I can, um. I think honestly, my favorite,
I mean, my favorite for a long long time was
Christmas and canceled he does the first time I wrote
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for it. But actually, my my favorite UM is actually
Merry Christmas to the one I used to know. And
that's I just I love when I sit down and
like a song just comes out of me in like
fifteen minutes, because that that's bigger than me, and I
love that feeling that it's like, oh, this wasn't just
like me getting this out. This is like I was
just like a vessel for it and it was just
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supposed to happen this whole time. I know that sounds
like trippy. It sounds like you're an artist that God
is using to share a message to people who need
to hear it. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, and
I do feel like it's it's that kind of thing.
It's just bigger than me, and I feel like a
lot of people have that. A lot of people go
in relationships, especially, and you know, we create what we
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think is there, what we want to be there, or
what we are fully in love, and we are fully
in all those feelings. But you know, maybe maybe it's
you're missing something that wasn't ever there or isn't there anymore,
you know, And I think that that's it's it's a
sad thing to say Merry Christmas to the one I
used to know, but it's also a very real thing
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that happens to a lot of us, you know, because
we're all changing and growing and on different paths and
um anyway, that's my favorite song. It's such a sad song,
you know, to the one I used to know. It's
such a sad song. But I unfortunately, like a lot
of us, sometimes you need that sad song. Sometimes you
need that like to, like I said before, like to
not feel alone and just to like sit with those
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feelings I feel, I feel like it's okay to feel that.
It's okay too, because if you don't go through that
those stages of grief, for that stage of loss or
because even if it comes back around, even if that
person gets over, even if that person, it's still happened.
You know, even all that laws still happened, you still
felt it, You still it was still there, and it's
it's still validated. So it's just hard. Life can be
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really hard sometimes love that your Christmas album, though life
can be hard, still has so much happiness. Oh yeah,
you know Janie and I, my my bestie, UM and
my sister and the other women that are closest to
me in my life. We kind I feel like if
you can't laugh, you're gonna go crazy, and so we
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all have a very dark, dark sense of humor me
as well. Yeah, and it was like, oh that was
so inappropriate, but that laughter felt so good. And I think, um,
a couple of the songs on here, especially Christmas isn't canceled,
but you know, just a few of them kind of
have that tongue in cheek, sarcastic. Okay, it hurts, but
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we're gonna laugh and dance our way through it. Yeah,
oh no, Mary Christmas Baby is one of those two.
It's the first trick on the album. But it's kind
of like, okay, it's you know, it's just says I
have a lot of I'm my friend group is very
similar to as well. And I find in general like
if you can't it like sometimes you just have to laugh.
Sometimes the laugh turns into hysterical tears and you're like,
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oh my gosh, but you still have to get it out,
you know, and it still has to you know, it
has to come out of your body. You want it
in there. So there's definitely you know, every kind of
feeling where I mean, honestly, you can listen to this
album and it could be about one total relationship, you know,
from the beginning to end, honestly. But because there's even
sexy songs like there's you know, Santa Baby, we wanted
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to do something and it sounds very like Cellblock Tango
Chicago Meet Santa Baby, you know, so it's like very
more of like a sexy vibe and and something cute,
and and then there's you know, love songs like Glow,
and there's you know, there's a lot of different vibes.
But yes, we need. I have to have humor. Um,
And I do guys sadness with humor a lot of times,
you know, but we do have to make sure you
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stop and feel it every once in a while. But
sometimes it's just like, oh, let's just laugh this one
off and not carry that in my backpack. Yeah, you
gotta have a lot of laughter in life. So your
kids a Rose and Remington's how can you even get
mad adequately? Mom? Like, how can you really scream river Rose?
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Because it's so beautiful? Like, oh, I can, yeah, but
just it's like my daughter named her little girl, she's
got a Rosalie Bell. How can you even get mad
and say Rosalie Bell because it's so musical river Rose?
Same thing, so musical, so so cute. Like how do
you how do you really let them know your pist? Mom?
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And yet it is it is possible, yeah, and yet
it does happen. Um. No, I am blessed my kids
are both. I was literally snubbled with them last night.
And I have separate bedtimes with them both because they're
both very different and I want that time with both
of them. But um, but I was snuggling with them,
and it's it's so funny because they can be and
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they are the most magical little beings and I feel
super blessed and and I can't even because I never
wanted children, So this is like a you know, definitely
different at and I thought my life would be. But
I can't imagine. And I know that's such a cliche,
but you can't imagine your life without There's just so important.
Everything revolves around there, so cool, and it's such a
blessing to be in responsibility, to be able to like
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try and help mold these little creatures. But at the
same time, oh girl, they can be demons, like they
can fool and be like I'm like, oh my god,
Like you're possessed right now, Like especially if you think
you're gonna talk to me like that, you know, I'm
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I'm very much my big thing and my with anybody
that surrounds my children, whether it be teachers, nanny's, like
people I work with, um, anyone around them. I'm like,
don't let them get get away with being unkind or unlovely.
That is what I will not tolerate. Like I can
you know that have to be the smartest kids in
the class, don't have to be the you know, most
talented don't have to be all those things, but kind
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and loving and respectful those are. That's a deal breaker, Like,
you gotta You've got to have that, because I feel
like you can accomplish anything in life if you have
those three things. Um, you know, and especially as far
as relationships, like you know, cultivating positive, healthy ones. So
my that's my thing I work on with them. I'm like, look,
you gotta be kind at the end of the day.
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And I tell them if I find out you're doing
something like if you're mean to someone at school, whatever
you do to that person, I'm definitely going to be
doing to you. So I'm so excited about Kelly's new
music and that she's here with us today talking about
holidays and making it through breakups and moving forward. Will
spend a little more time with this incredible artist right
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not spending our Christmas at our home where like going
for a holiday because Christmas, and I'm being reminded that,
um well, we can't forget to make cookies. Like if
we don't really cookies, like he might not leave our presents.
So um so our big thing is is doing cookies
and and milk and almond milk were very l a
so so sugar easy? Do you do the where you
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you decorate them? Or are we good with chocolate chips?
That they've been different every year we've had chocolate chip,
we've had sugar. I think we've done I seen one
year we've they've been different every year, so I don't know.
I think maybe we'll do like gingerbread Man or something
like this year. I don't know, but we we change
it up to impress Santa to entice for better gifts.
Do you leave do you leave a few carrots for
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the reindeer? Oh my gosh, we we did that last year.
I don't think we did that before last year. But
I think because um, horses were involved in our family,
especially my eldest who is my stepdaughter. She wrote horses,
So I think because horses were in their their minds
a lot, they we ended up doing that last year.
Fun fun, Well, they're telling me I have to say
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goodbye to you, and I could talk to you all day,
but I know you have like a TV show and
a couple of jobs, a couple of jobs. I don't
know how you do it, but you do it with
grace and you do it with beauty. Kelly Clarkson, thank
you for being here with us. Oh, thank you so much.
Have a good one you too, have a blessed holiday
YouTube bye bye. Thank you for carving out some time
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for us today, Kelly. I know you're so busy, and
thank you for adding some great new music to our
Christmas playlist, Christmas Isn't Canceled. I too have canceled a
few participants in it over the years. However, just like you,
change is inevitable. Sometimes it comes easily and sometimes with
the force of a mac truck, but change does come, and,
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as Kelly set out to express with this new album,
when Christmas Comes Around, there is simply no better time
than Christmas to breathe hope into one's life and let
possibilities wander. Kelly Clarkson is the first artist ever to
top each of Billboard's charts, Adult, Contemporary, Country, and Dance charts,
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and there is a sampling of each of the genres
on When Christmas Comes Around. The fun single Christmas Isn't
Canceled Just You and empowering anthem to all those who
refuse to give into remorse or regret after a breakup,
but instead look forward to the future with hope and
happiness in their hearts, even if they're stocking is kind
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of empty on Christmas Day. It's been out since September.
The full album dropped in mid October, and if you
haven't downloaded it yet, you want to as soon as
you finished listening to this podcast episode. Catch up with
Kelly Clarkson on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube, and let
her cheerful, cheerful spirit lift you up when you tune
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into her daytime Kelly Clarkson Show, and spend evenings with
American idol. I hope your Christmas season has started out
marry and bright, and I hope when you tune into
my podcast or my radio program, your heart is filled
with hope, happiness, light and love. God bless you and
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I'll talk to you soon. Bye bye
Christmas comes but once a year, and I can't believe
that it's a rival is so imminent. The older I get,
the faster the seasons, the years, The time seems to
fly by, which is a very good reminder to savor
every precious moment of every day that we've got. I've
made so many amazing memories with my kids this past year.
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We've loved talking about the beach, going camping. Oh boy,
we've done a lot of camping over the summer. We
had water park adventures, trips to the fair harvest festivals,
and all the cooking and canning that I did this
pass ball. Now it's time to make more memories, to
deck the halls and dig out our Christmas cheer out
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of the storage bins that we tucked it away from
last year. We have a lot of fun traditions like
matching footie pajamas and our Christmas Day scavenger hunt wearing
our matching footie pajamas, and we love having new experiences
like those were introduced to when someone new joins our family,
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or we're lucky enough to host guests that share their
own cherish memories or foods traditions, recipes, their holiday activities,
and Christmas can also be a tough time. It can,
especially if you are missing a loved one, if you've
lost somebody, if you've gone through a divorce, a breakup,
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if you've lost someone to COVID. That's why it's important
to blend the old and the new. By keeping those
traditions that remind us of where we came from and
adding new ones that remind us that there is always
something to look forward to, we're more likely to embrace
change and all the wonderful opportunities that it brings our way.
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One new thing this holiday season has brought to us
as some great new holiday music. I've been showcasing some
of them here on Love Someone In. Today I get
to introduce you to even more great new music, a
whole new album of Christmas tunes from one of the
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five million albums and forty million singles. You heard those
numbers right. She was the winner of the first season
of American Idol and her debut single, A Moment Like
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This quickly went to number one on Billboard's Hot one hundred.
It would take me the entire thirty minutes that I
dedicate to each podcast episode to run through her awards,
her accolades, her Grammys, her am a IS, her Academy
of Country Music Artist Awards. She's won them all and
even two Daytime Emmy's. Now She's got her own daytime
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talk show. Is a judge on American Idol, has written
two children's books, is a mom to to be Beautiful littles,
And in addition to all of her writing, recording and
sharing new music, she still has found time to drop
by and spend time with us today and chat with
us on Love Someone. We'll be back to talk to
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Loves Someone is someone that everybody loves. Hello, Kelly, You're
like you are like so adored and be loved and
you always have been, but it's like your star is
twinkling bright these days. I feel like I have a
list to people that would disagree with you, but just
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think about a few of them and yourselfs. I'm just
saying I feel like there's definitely like not everybody but no,
but you know what, I think, my whole career, my
whole life. Rather, I'm like, it's cool if you're not
into it, but I'm just gonna like do me. If
you like it, that's cool. If you don't, that's cool.
I'd say there's many many meal in too like it,
so that's cool. We'll focus on those Yeah, well on
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those alter life like that. So before we started the podcast,
you said that you get really tired of being in
hair and makeup, but it's like the TV show and
the specials and the album, Like do they have people
coming to do your hair when you're passing out at night? Now?
Oh god, I always look at glow my makeup artists,
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like you think you could do this me laying down?
It's like I just close my eyes while you do this. Yeah,
it's hard enough for me to just sit still. I'm
like a d H D. So um no, I try
and focus so hard for them to stay and get
it done, you know. And then like a little bit,
I think it's like an hour and five team they
usually have with me in the chair. I call it
the chair as if it's like like the torture chamber,
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like the torture chair. Yeah, but but it is amazing,
Like they're artists, right, So I come in and I mean,
you're looking at me right now, like and I look fine,
But I'm just saying I go out me and color
is real different. Like it's like I come out and
I'm like, I've call him Harry Potter. It's my Harry
Potter squad um. But you know, I don't mind doing
it for work. But yeah, I was telling you in
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the before we got on here, I was like, I
have to be paid a pretty good amount of money
to be putting hair makeup on. I'm glad that that
you are all natural and uh, just your adorable self
with me because white people's natural look. But do you
know my husband likes it better when I don't have
any makeup on. A lot of men are like that.
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I think it's cool to like both. You know, sometimes
we like to get all dolled up and sometimes you know,
we just like, I'm cool with my face, like as
is I'm cool with your face. How old are your kids, Kelly?
Five and seven? And in school? Are they doing in
person school? Are they doing a hybrid? Are you home schooling? No? No,
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they're in school. My kids are like me, They're completely social,
like creatures. They did not do well like I know
a lot of kids do homeschool. My my sister's kids
actually do homeschool, but and they thrive in that. But
like my kids would never they look forward to friendships
and and engaging with other kids and dance class and
all that kind of stuff. So you know, they're in
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school and God bless, like we're all working hard to
keep all our kids in school so they don't have
to be because that's it really hard, especially on kids
that learning to read, and like saying focus, Like those
teachers a starting hard enough to get all those kids
to focus in person, let alone on zoom. Yeah, like
you I have way wicked bad a d D and
so do all my kids. Yeah, my my boy is focused.
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But I was like, thank you God that there's in
school this year at least for now, thank you, Oh God. Yeah,
I mean, and it's one of those things too, it's like, look,
we'd all been trained to be teachers like that. Actually
you have to be educated to know how to educate people.
It's like there's a lot going to be lost here
in this generation, like because it takes, you know, someone
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who actually knows what they're doing. And I would know
that My mom's a teacher and she was amazing at
it um and we're not all you know, gifted with that,
and it's it was really hard on a lot of people.
I know, my Manny wanted to kill herself. Some of
us are a lot less gifted than others with that.
Oh my gosh, I actually love learning and I don't
mind teaching. I just don't have that thing called patients.
So you and I were like cut from the same cloth,
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only you've got talent and I don't. I have four
that are still at home, and I am just so
glad that from now we got you know, in person learning,
and I'm praying that that continues through the years. And
it's also like parents, like you know, dad's, mom's, all
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of us like and even nanny's caretakers. It's that it's
your time to like get stuff done too, Like while
they're at school, there's so much to get done. So
and it didn't in my household get done. Oh my god.
I was like, screw it, Like left and right. I
was like, and that's on the back burner too. Yeah,
everything was kind of on the back burner. Yeah. So
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Kelly Clarkson, we're gonna talk about your new Christmas album,
which is just like chock full. If somebody wants to
dance around the Christmas tree, like not sit and we're
fuzzy mittens and drink hot cocoa all day, but like
get up and and dance a little bit around the
Christmas Tree. They need to get your new Christmas album
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because it is full of fun, fun songs. Yeah, I
mean it definitely has a lot of energy to it.
Um it it kind of I mean I ended up
naming it when Christmas Comes Around. Well one, because it
was a lyric I liked in one of the songs
on the record, which actually isn't when you can dance
to Merry Christmas is the wanted to know but um.
But for the most part, it's got all these emotions
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and energies that one might be feeling around Christmas. I
think we're all like engineered from childhood to be like, no,
you must be happy. This is Christmas time. This is
happy time. And it's not always a perfect moment for everyone. Um,
and that's okay. And so you know, when Christmas comes around,
it's there's kind of like a feeling on there. Like
each song there's there's different vibes, but there definitely is
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it's more high energy than there's more like up tempos
than you know, ballad and fun energy. You have to
do that if it's Christmas too, like you have. I
think it was also therapeutic for me, Like it was
like I got out obviously some emotions, whether it was
sarcastic with like the single Christmas or something, or I'm
glad he admitted that because I'm listening to this going
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oh that was very therapeutic. Oh gosh, yes, yeah. Well honestly,
I wrote the song like this is t m I,
but I've I sometimes come up with ideas in the shower.
So I was in actually most times, and I was
just in there and I was maybe just crying a
tiny bit. But crying in the shower is good because
the tears mixed with the shower water. You know what happened, right, Yeah?
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You walk out, your eyes are red. You're like, no,
I just got chempoo in my eyes. I wasn't the
most allergies even in the shower. Um, No, I was
just I was, you know, just going through something. I
was just like, oh, and I just felt like the
last two years my you know, everyone, not just my friends,
but I feel like a lot of things been canceled
and we always talk about it, and I'm like, you
know what, I was like, I'm supposed to make this
Christmas record, and I was like, I love Christmas music.
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So I was like, I don't know how to be happy,
so maybe I could be sarcastic. So I ended up
literally off of just a you know, everything might be canceled,
you know, we might be canceled, but Christmas won't be.
So I ended up writing it off that that whole
thing anybody who's gone through a painful breakup the last
couple of years. Thank god, I'm not on the list anymore,
but Christmas isn't canceled, just to you. I don't know
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which I like more, the lyrics, the tune that gets
stuck in your head all day, or the artwork that
you use for it. Oh my gosh, are you talking
about the lyric video? Yes? Oh my god. So the
lyric video was so funny. So my, they were like,
we have this idea, and they kind of brought up
three different ones and I was like, Oh, this old
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movie poster thing. That's kind of cool because the whole
sound is kind of vintage. There's like maybe one or
two songs that aren't complete vintage sounding on the album,
and so um, I like that. And then I didn't
realize what they were gonna do, but that whole team
put that together and I thought it was so funny
how they played out the lyrics because I think they
kind of played off the fact that no one's ever
really released a breakup Christmas song before, because like, why
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would you? That's kind of messed up, but I did,
so they kind of played off of that, here's the
thing for for me and my job blaying dedications. Christmas
can get really tough because, yeah, you know, people call
and they're going through a breakup or they went through
a breakup, and I'm like, all I had was Wham
Last Christmas. That was it. That was the only hard
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Candy Christmas. Dolly Park the other one hard Oh my gosh,
um No, that's such a great song. But other than
like hard Candy Christmas or Last Christmas, there really aren't
songs too you go to, especially like I like happy
sounding music, Like I the juxtapositions of the message and
how happy the vibe is is what I loved. I
love that it sounds like it's a happy song. You
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nailed it with this, and and it is a happy song.
It is a very happy, empowering song because what the
song says is too bad for you Christmas doesn't again, well,
I'm gonna put every damn light in the world on
my house and I'm not gonna sit here and cry
any more over you. That's about how it wins. Yeah,
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and God blessed. It's one of those things where I
feel like it's it's a blessing to be able to like,
it's hard to like put real stuff that happens to
you in music, but I don't honestly know how to
go any other way because I feel like we do
all go through experiences to like share them and not
feel so alone and then um and how eco centric
to think you're alone and that obviously we all go
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through tough things. Um, but it was a very therapeutic
album overall for me to make. Okay, So a question
about another song that I have played more than once,
Glow with Chris Stapleton. Oh, I love that one. Did
you were you with him? Did you guys get to
sing that together? Or did you know so well this
song has had any lives? I feel like this song
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was actually a completely different song. It was slowed down,
like a completely different vibe, um, different lyrics, different meaning
like everything was different. And it was gonna go on
my record, my actual album that we have, but I'm
not releasing it. But anyway, and then I ended up point,
you know what, that doesn't really fit with the whole
vibe of what we're doing for my album. But I
love the songs, which I love the the energy, I
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love the soulfulness of it. And so anyway, I ended
up speeding it up and completely reworking the track with
my musical director and also my producer, and I ended
up writing Glow to it and changing the lyrics and
some of the melodies, and the writers were really cool
about it because I was like, dude, I know, I'm
not trying to tear up the song. I just I
love it so much, but I feel like it has
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a life and we haven't found the space for it yet.
And so I ended up writing this Christmas on to it,
and my makeup artist her name is Gloria, but we
call her Glow. And I was like, you know what,
there's only so many things you can say, and I've
already written a whole other Christmas or you know, songs
to that. So I was like, Glow. It was like,
that's kind of really beautiful, like because some meant and
so I ended up writing, even Christmas can't compete with
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your glow. That was the first line I kind of
wrote for that, and I wrote it off my makeup
artist name, and then so I ended up writing this
whole song to it, and it was kind of sweet,
which was kind of difficult because I definitely was not
in that while writing this. But if you're vibing off
the glow of your makeup artist, you can take your
heart there. Yeah. Well, I was like, it was like
her her name was just kind of cool, and I thought,
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I never really saying about that for Christmas, and so
I wrote this whole song and God on his Truth.
Chris Dimpleton is one of my favorite singers on Earth,
and I've liked him before he blew up. I even
said this. I mean, I like way before he was
like with another band and he was doing this tribute
with Rebelling years ago, and I was like, who the
hell is this guy? His voice is just magical and
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I've just been a fan for so long, and I
just never asked to sing with him because I just
didn't want to hear no. So so I finally just
was like, I was like, I'm just gonna ask him.
I'm such a fan anyway, So I I ended up
asking him and he said yes, So it's so magical.
I love it. It is so magical. And when people
get your your Christmas album, if they will listen to
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the lyrics, I mean, it's a fun song and a
beautiful um you know, the melody and and all the
instruments and Chris's voice, you know what. I don't drink
and his voice makes me want to drink whiskey. His
voice sounds like I can't say that on your show.
It sounds like the best feeling you could ever possibly have. Sonically, yes, yeah,
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but sonically that's what it would sound like exactly. Yeah. Yeah,
but the lyrics are so sweet and I was writing
them down because Lights on the Tree can't compete with
your glow. Yeah, I love that when you love someone
to think that, to say that about you or maybe
you have that. I just mean, like, it's just a
really beautiful I love. I like create little movies in
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my head or I play movies that I love. I
love actually always pops up because I love that movie.
But I like play a little you know, MiNet through
whatever I'm writing, And yeah, that would be awesome. So
can I share something with you? Yes, When I was
your age and even a little bit older, I never
dreamed I would have somebody who thinks that about me,
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you know, because I had just train wreck after train
wreck of relationships and failed marriages and you know that.
Oh yeah, oh yeah. I don't know which I've been
experienced more grief from being fired off the air or
grief from being fired as a wife or a girlfriend.
Oh my god, there's so many things I don't know
about you that I'm finding out right now. What. Wow.
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And I was single and it was Christmas, and I
was the mother of eight kids, and it was coming
up on Christmas time and I was going through a
horrible breakup. I mean, the hardest of my life because
the relationship that I was in I wasn't supposed to
be in, and so I couldn't even share with people.
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There were very few people in my inner circle who
even knew what I was going through, and those who
did know a few of them were doing the I
Told you so dance because girlfriend, we tried to warn
you this was going to happen. And anyway, man, thank
you to my friends for not saying that. Yeah, well
maybe I was just saying it in my head, but
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they were thinking it, I'm sure. Anyway, Um, I can
tell you now, you know, several years down the road,
fifteen years now with the man who thinks I glow,
It's real and it exists, and God's got somebody so
precious waiting for you. All the stuff that I went through,
I had to go through to make me the woman
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that I am so I could be in the relationship
that I'm in. Oh, and I agreed to, like, I
don't I regret nothing, like I even like, you know,
unfortunate things that happened in your life are hard things
because we can do hard things. Glenn Doyle one of
my favorites. Um, but also I feel like that's what
shapes you, and it's what makes you a better person.
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It's what makes you recognize. Okay, I missed those red flags.
I missed that, all right, ignore about the purpose. I
missed road signs like bridge out stop. Now, I missed
I missed those. You know. I almost called my next
album red Flag Collector, Like like I was like, I mean,
why are you just picking them up and sticking them
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like in a yeah, just collecting them a bag like
a golf bag, just shoving the red legs. And I
was apparently wanting to do some kind of exhibit with
at a lot of them. Um. But but here's the thing,
and not only about for other people, but yourself. It's
like you don't recognize things like in yourself. But I
you know, coming back to what you said, it's one
of those things. So you know, because I've now been
divorced for a minute but separated for well over a year,
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and it's one of those things that's so you didn't
expect or anything. But at the same time, like people
you have already had, I've already had people be like,
let me know when you're you know, wanting to do,
let me know what it's like. You know what, I
don't think you have to have someone with you all
the time. Like I really do enjoy my work, my kids,
my creative you know self that sometimes I got stifled,
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like in relationships. It's hard to be as creative as
I can because I wear my heart on my sleep.
So I really enjoy and then maybe in the future,
you know, you never know, well I do know I
won't get married again, but I just mean, you never
know about love. But it's one of those things where
it's like I think we're engineered, especially from where I'm from,
so like have to have that and I don't have
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that need. And I think that's also what you learned
about yourself going through hard things. But I have had,
you know, in my head and in my moment. I'm
able to write those lyrics because I have had that
where I thought, oh man, they think I glow and like,
I have had that feeling and that's magical. To even
have had that experience is amazing. Not everyone gets that,
(20:58):
so but I, you know, I'm not one of those
people is gonna like poopoo on like you know what was,
because what was is what got me here, like you said,
But I will say it's very therapeutic I going through
divorce and going through hard times in your life, Like,
I'm so happy I have writing and I'm so have
music because that's that's my outlet. That's how I get
through it and that's how I kind of figure out
what's happening. And man, not having that, I don't know
(21:20):
how I would have done that. For me. It's art.
I paint or I draw or create something out of
clay and it takes over my world for a minute.
And uh, that's how that's how I work through working
with their hands and that's when me too, I've turned
to gardening. I just love my hands in the store
like I love like gardening and stuff. Oh man, I
(21:44):
want to just sit down and talk with you and
get to know you more because I mean beyond this,
because you are so delightful and I could teach you
a lot about gardening. Oh my god. Really, I'm like
a nerd. I ask everything, my brother laws of green thumb.
I have apps. Okay, there's an app you gotta get.
Let me see what is called. I think it's called
(22:06):
picture this. Have you heard of this picture this? Yes? Yes,
I literally was just using picture this in my friender
because I was like, wait, I thought this tree was
something else, and then I was using it and then
I found out it was a simmon. So my personmetries
are loaded this year. They are breaking, the branches are
breaking tree. Yeah, little orange fruits. Yeah. So yeah, picture this.
(22:29):
You know why I like it so much because it
makes me sound smart. Well, and you get define out
all the things about it and what you can use
it for. Then you google, like what you know, does
their healing properties? You're like all these other things. So
it's like I find I'm a nerd. About stuff like that. So, uh, sorry,
I got sidetracked when you said gardening, because I am
a rabid gardener. But my peeps here are reminding me
(22:50):
that we're supposed to be talking about your Christmas album.
And I want to know I have a couple of
favorites now that I've listened to it. What are your favorites?
I know that's like saying which ile do you like
the most? I know you can't there's no way answer
I actually can. I can, um. I think honestly, my favorite,
I mean, my favorite for a long long time was
Christmas and canceled he does the first time I wrote
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for it. But actually, my my favorite UM is actually
Merry Christmas to the one I used to know. And
that's I just I love when I sit down and
like a song just comes out of me in like
fifteen minutes, because that that's bigger than me, and I
love that feeling that it's like, oh, this wasn't just
like me getting this out. This is like I was
just like a vessel for it and it was just
(23:31):
supposed to happen this whole time. I know that sounds
like trippy. It sounds like you're an artist that God
is using to share a message to people who need
to hear it. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, and
I do feel like it's it's that kind of thing.
It's just bigger than me, and I feel like a
lot of people have that. A lot of people go
in relationships, especially, and you know, we create what we
(23:52):
think is there, what we want to be there, or
what we are fully in love, and we are fully
in all those feelings. But you know, maybe maybe it's
you're missing something that wasn't ever there or isn't there anymore,
you know, And I think that that's it's it's a
sad thing to say Merry Christmas to the one I
used to know, but it's also a very real thing
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that happens to a lot of us, you know, because
we're all changing and growing and on different paths and
um anyway, that's my favorite song. It's such a sad song,
you know, to the one I used to know. It's
such a sad song. But I unfortunately, like a lot
of us, sometimes you need that sad song. Sometimes you
need that like to, like I said before, like to
not feel alone and just to like sit with those
(24:37):
feelings I feel, I feel like it's okay to feel that.
It's okay too, because if you don't go through that
those stages of grief, for that stage of loss or
because even if it comes back around, even if that
person gets over, even if that person, it's still happened.
You know, even all that laws still happened, you still
felt it, You still it was still there, and it's
it's still validated. So it's just hard. Life can be
(24:58):
really hard sometimes love that your Christmas album, though life
can be hard, still has so much happiness. Oh yeah,
you know Janie and I, my my bestie, UM and
my sister and the other women that are closest to
me in my life. We kind I feel like if
you can't laugh, you're gonna go crazy, and so we
(25:20):
all have a very dark, dark sense of humor me
as well. Yeah, and it was like, oh that was
so inappropriate, but that laughter felt so good. And I think, um,
a couple of the songs on here, especially Christmas isn't canceled,
but you know, just a few of them kind of
have that tongue in cheek, sarcastic. Okay, it hurts, but
(25:42):
we're gonna laugh and dance our way through it. Yeah,
oh no, Mary Christmas Baby is one of those two.
It's the first trick on the album. But it's kind
of like, okay, it's you know, it's just says I
have a lot of I'm my friend group is very
similar to as well. And I find in general like
if you can't it like sometimes you just have to laugh.
Sometimes the laugh turns into hysterical tears and you're like,
(26:04):
oh my gosh, but you still have to get it out,
you know, and it still has to you know, it
has to come out of your body. You want it
in there. So there's definitely you know, every kind of
feeling where I mean, honestly, you can listen to this
album and it could be about one total relationship, you know,
from the beginning to end, honestly. But because there's even
sexy songs like there's you know, Santa Baby, we wanted
(26:25):
to do something and it sounds very like Cellblock Tango
Chicago Meet Santa Baby, you know, so it's like very
more of like a sexy vibe and and something cute,
and and then there's you know, love songs like Glow,
and there's you know, there's a lot of different vibes.
But yes, we need. I have to have humor. Um,
And I do guys sadness with humor a lot of times,
you know, but we do have to make sure you
(26:47):
stop and feel it every once in a while. But
sometimes it's just like, oh, let's just laugh this one
off and not carry that in my backpack. Yeah, you
gotta have a lot of laughter in life. So your
kids a Rose and Remington's how can you even get
mad adequately? Mom? Like, how can you really scream river Rose?
(27:09):
Because it's so beautiful? Like, oh, I can, yeah, but
just it's like my daughter named her little girl, she's
got a Rosalie Bell. How can you even get mad
and say Rosalie Bell because it's so musical river Rose?
Same thing, so musical, so so cute. Like how do
you how do you really let them know your pist? Mom?
(27:30):
And yet it is it is possible, yeah, and yet
it does happen. Um. No, I am blessed my kids
are both. I was literally snubbled with them last night.
And I have separate bedtimes with them both because they're
both very different and I want that time with both
of them. But um, but I was snuggling with them,
and it's it's so funny because they can be and
(27:52):
they are the most magical little beings and I feel
super blessed and and I can't even because I never
wanted children, So this is like a you know, definitely
different at and I thought my life would be. But
I can't imagine. And I know that's such a cliche,
but you can't imagine your life without There's just so important.
Everything revolves around there, so cool, and it's such a
blessing to be in responsibility, to be able to like
(28:14):
try and help mold these little creatures. But at the
same time, oh girl, they can be demons, like they
can fool and be like I'm like, oh my god,
Like you're possessed right now, Like especially if you think
you're gonna talk to me like that, you know, I'm
(28:34):
I'm very much my big thing and my with anybody
that surrounds my children, whether it be teachers, nanny's, like
people I work with, um, anyone around them. I'm like,
don't let them get get away with being unkind or unlovely.
That is what I will not tolerate. Like I can
you know that have to be the smartest kids in
the class, don't have to be the you know, most
talented don't have to be all those things, but kind
(28:56):
and loving and respectful those are. That's a deal breaker, Like,
you gotta You've got to have that, because I feel
like you can accomplish anything in life if you have
those three things. Um, you know, and especially as far
as relationships, like you know, cultivating positive, healthy ones. So
my that's my thing I work on with them. I'm like, look,
you gotta be kind at the end of the day.
(29:16):
And I tell them if I find out you're doing
something like if you're mean to someone at school, whatever
you do to that person, I'm definitely going to be
doing to you. So I'm so excited about Kelly's new
music and that she's here with us today talking about
holidays and making it through breakups and moving forward. Will
spend a little more time with this incredible artist right
(29:38):
after I share some Christmas spirit from one of Today's
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favorite Christmas traditions? What do you do with your kids
every year? Something? Um well, I'm being reminded because we're
(30:44):
not spending our Christmas at our home where like going
for a holiday because Christmas, and I'm being reminded that,
um well, we can't forget to make cookies. Like if
we don't really cookies, like he might not leave our presents.
So um so our big thing is is doing cookies
and and milk and almond milk were very l a
so so sugar easy? Do you do the where you
(31:07):
you decorate them? Or are we good with chocolate chips?
That they've been different every year we've had chocolate chip,
we've had sugar. I think we've done I seen one
year we've they've been different every year, so I don't know.
I think maybe we'll do like gingerbread Man or something
like this year. I don't know, but we we change
it up to impress Santa to entice for better gifts.
Do you leave do you leave a few carrots for
(31:28):
the reindeer? Oh my gosh, we we did that last year.
I don't think we did that before last year. But
I think because um, horses were involved in our family,
especially my eldest who is my stepdaughter. She wrote horses,
So I think because horses were in their their minds
a lot, they we ended up doing that last year.
Fun fun, Well, they're telling me I have to say
(31:49):
goodbye to you, and I could talk to you all day,
but I know you have like a TV show and
a couple of jobs, a couple of jobs. I don't
know how you do it, but you do it with
grace and you do it with beauty. Kelly Clarkson, thank
you for being here with us. Oh, thank you so much.
Have a good one you too, have a blessed holiday
YouTube bye bye. Thank you for carving out some time
(32:13):
for us today, Kelly. I know you're so busy, and
thank you for adding some great new music to our
Christmas playlist, Christmas Isn't Canceled. I too have canceled a
few participants in it over the years. However, just like you,
change is inevitable. Sometimes it comes easily and sometimes with
the force of a mac truck, but change does come, and,
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as Kelly set out to express with this new album,
when Christmas Comes Around, there is simply no better time
than Christmas to breathe hope into one's life and let
possibilities wander. Kelly Clarkson is the first artist ever to
top each of Billboard's charts, Adult, Contemporary, Country, and Dance charts,
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and there is a sampling of each of the genres
on When Christmas Comes Around. The fun single Christmas Isn't
Canceled Just You and empowering anthem to all those who
refuse to give into remorse or regret after a breakup,
but instead look forward to the future with hope and
happiness in their hearts, even if they're stocking is kind
(33:22):
of empty on Christmas Day. It's been out since September.
The full album dropped in mid October, and if you
haven't downloaded it yet, you want to as soon as
you finished listening to this podcast episode. Catch up with
Kelly Clarkson on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube, and let
her cheerful, cheerful spirit lift you up when you tune
(33:44):
into her daytime Kelly Clarkson Show, and spend evenings with
American idol. I hope your Christmas season has started out
marry and bright, and I hope when you tune into
my podcast or my radio program, your heart is filled
with hope, happiness, light and love. God bless you and
(34:05):
I'll talk to you soon. Bye bye
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