October 11, 2024 • 15 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Why don't two point seven It is Kiss FM.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Are you familiar with this? Yeah, I think this. I
love this one, so.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Of course this from way back in the day, no
doubt therek Gwent Stefani here, who was amazing. Everybody Gwent
was buzzing about your set after you did it at
our iHeartRadio Music Festival in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I was backstage and Camilla Kbeo was on right before me,
and she was all sexy and like twerking and.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Doing all her stuff. You know, we were on the
voice together, so we know each other pretty good. She's
a sweet little girl. I love her.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
But I was like, oh my gosh, I gotta come
out there and do some stuff next, like changing the choreography.
I was like, maybe I can do that toirl on
the what does she had like some kind of a
tourling thing she did. But it was a really exciting
and I love I love the fact that it's kind
of like a five songs like slap them around and
(01:01):
then you're done a minute. Like sets are like, oh
my god, it's so exhausting, but it's just so fun
to do like such a quick you know.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
But yeah, it was super fun.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I had well you did the set listen was the
Sweet Escape, then somebody Else's Don't Speak justicic Hall the background,
and it was like by at that point, and somebody
Else's is the new one. How many times did you
perform that song in front of people? That was the
first time like that really?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I think that was the first time.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, because I had done in rehearsal like a couple
I did it a few times, but never live. And
so that's the thing when you have the new song,
You're like, oh my gosh, how much can I move?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
You know what I mean? Because I I don't know
where you're breath yet.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You have to like learn how to like know when
to move on stage, and so I was definitely.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Out of breath.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I was like, oh my gosh, I learned that I'm
not going to move a lot on that song when
I sing it next time. Next time, I didn't. I
was like, okay, dancers, you dance, I'm gonna see. It
has a lot of long notes.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And it's entirely here in a second.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We did have a chance to get a little sample
of some of the album, which we will we can't
play now because it's not out, but we got a chance.
Then thank you for giving us permission for that. We
got a chance to get a little the vibe of
this album. And I think you were saying maybe I
read it, heard it. I don't know if you told
me you were saying. This track, the first single, somebody Else's,
almost didn't make the album for some reason.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, because Okay, So I had been writing for a
long time. I mean, I wanted to write a record
so bad, but you guys know, it's really hard to
find time when you're a mom, and like you almost
I felt guilty, like, oh, you know, because I've already
had so much, so many blessings, and it's like to
just keep wanting more and more and more.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
It's like just you did it, you know what I mean,
Like why are you gonna go do more?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But I feel like when I write, like it's so
I need to do it.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, it's like working out for me, like I have
to do it.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
You know, I'm never going to have the body I had,
but I still want to work out.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I need to work out. By the way, you still
have the body you had.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
No, but you know what I'm saying, like you as
you live, You're like I did that a lot of times,
but I still feel like it helps me so much,
especially in my life going from everybody knows the family
broke up like it was and everyone's like, oh, it
was so much time's gone by, but that it takes
a long time to heal, you know what I'm saying
it and it goes really really fast, and so for
(03:22):
me to be able to write new music, and I
didn't even know how healing it was going to be
until like even the other day, I got on like
a big zoom with all of universal the world right,
it was like all these and I was like crying
playing the record for them because I'm like, I can't
believe how emotional it is to write songs over a
really long period of time and share your life and
(03:43):
then have.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
People hear it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It's it's it's weird because the songs are literally handed
down by God like it is very like a spiritual thing.
So sharing it, you get this whole another layer after
listening to it all this time myself and then having it,
like I don't know, exposed, it's it's very cool.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So whatever gets old is.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
This span of time and emotion that is encapsulated in
this album. For you in terms of all the different songs,
are they in different periods for you?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
So many layers to this.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And it's the thing is when I started writing, I
really went down the path of like I want to
make a reggae record, No I'm gonna make I want
to go because it was twenty twenty and it felt
like I want to make a really happy record. Then
something that had and everything felt very nostalgic like that
was that music was coming back again, like everyone was
listening to the old stuff from TikTok, Like all of
my songs were getting big again on TikTok That's wild.
(04:36):
So I was inspired by that. And then as I
was going down that path, I kept feeling like I
was chasing myself, like trying to like compete with the
old me. And it was never it wasn't like I
loved the songs, but it just didn't feel like nobody
else did.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Or I was like, no one's reacting, maybe I am.
Maybe it is over, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
And then it would just keep going and going, and
you have to remember like these are stolen moments, Like okay,
they're at school, I have four hours go in.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
And write with some people you don't know, and a
lot of.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It I was writing on zoom because we were in
COVID and so then like the energy's different. It was
just the whole thing was a weird, and it really
felt like I had to fight for myself.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Like, Okay, nobody cares if I do it.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I probably shouldn't be doing it. I should probably be
cooking dinner.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But like I just I knew I needed to do it.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
So I kept going, going going, and at one point
like I had enough songs to make a record, but
it just didn't feel right. And then I went in
the studio. You know what it was. I was talking
to Adam Levine and he's such a jerk. I was like,
how do you You must have sold your soul with
the devil because look, how do you have all these hits?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Still?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Like that's crazy and he's like we just had we're
having a personal conversation. I don't need Adam, and he
was like, oh no, you need to work with Ja Cash.
And Ja Cash is you know a guy that is
like really super talented producer, songwriter, blah blah blah. And
so it took me like to even get him on
the phone right me, and I'm like, wow, God.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Like he's a busy Well, yeah, you have to wait
in line.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But it was just fun to like meet somebody that
was going to be my like be in my corner.
And he had sent me this song true Babe, which
I don't know you guys heard that song, but this
little girl, Nico wrote it and sent it to me,
and I was like, you know what, I really I
don't ever do people's songs, like it's just what's the
point of it for me? It's like the process, it's
like the but I love the song. And I was
(06:33):
in that kind of like in between space. I wasn't
doing anything. So I cut the song and I met
Nico and she's like, oh my.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Gosh, my mom used to listen to No Doubt.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Like you're like a little girl like girl wrote it.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I was like, I love you, Nico. And it was interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
It's an interesting like evolution to be in the room
with this girl who is like soup young, beauty, stunningly beautiful, talented,
confident and ready to collaborate with me. And it was
like I needed that, Like I needed this fresh perspective
on me. And he's really finding the right people that
(07:11):
you can. Oh yeah, I got chills, like finding the
right people to be able to be myself and be like, Okay,
now I know what I'm gonna do. Now I know
I'm I landed. So I kind of wrote Purple Viruses
with her, and that was when I was like, okay,
now I know where I'm at.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And so it took me all that.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Time, but I did a lot in between that time.
It wasn't you didn't you guys didn't see all the
songs I wrote, and some of them are really I
maybe they come out one day, I don't know. But
the thing is is that once I wrote that song,
I just felt like I got into the me now
like this, I don't it.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Doesn't fit into anything that's happening.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It's not me before, it's not me me and Sabrina
Carpenter or me and you know, it's just me.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
It's like where I'm at.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So it's just very therapeutic and it feels really good
to just have like an it's like an art project. True,
I'm sure like almost like starting over. Like the attitude
is like I'm doing this because I get to do it.
I get to paint in my closet when my kids
go to school kind of thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I love to hear that though, because we hear the
songs and we don't get to know about the paint
brush inside the closet.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yes, the four hours that you had.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So let's let's take a quick break. I want to
come back and play something, so somebody else's is out.
Let's play that and you can hear what we're talking
about here with Gwen Stefani next on one of two
point seven Kiss FM.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Hang on, please, when's the Fanny?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Somebody else's by the way, I mean, you know this,
but the second you open your mouth, you know it's
when's the Fani? You have a signature, which is why
you're a superstar. By the way, ever a question.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I have it chills right now because that was such
a moment to be in here, like hearing the song
with Gwen in the studio, and it's just I love
you so much and I feel.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Like I'm in a weird dream, like I'm like, is
this happening.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I just love that you wrote the most beautiful thank
you note for somebody not being in your life. It's
like that was the sweetest thank you for not being
a part of my life.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I cannot take all the credit. I this is the thing.
So I once I found Ja Cash, going back to.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Jake Cash, I want to live to somebody.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I'm giving everyone credit because I would not have this
record without the people that I wrote and I'm saying,
and people that took the time to listen to my story.
And I mean a lot of times when you were
in these writing sessions and back in the day, it
was just me with the no doubt guys, and I
did all the lyrics, I did all the melodies.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
And they did all the music or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And then slowly, like when I did my first solo records,
I went in and it was like there's a circuit
of writing, like there's always like the hot writers of
the moment, and I didn't even know that existed back then,
you know what I mean. And then I worked with
Linda Perry and it was like it went on and on.
But this is like these young new like coming you know,
up and coming artists or whatever writers. And I Cash
(09:55):
put me in with this young girl called Madison Love.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Shout out, Madison, what's up. She's listening.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
She actually like posted that you guys played the song
the other day's and but what was Sonny like she's
she was like again like I'm like, how are you
that cute? And pretty and like young and confident? Like
in a way like so we're all sitting down and
we have to like we just start talking. Most of
it's just talking until all of a sudden, like a
(10:22):
song just plops out of the sky.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, because it's like what are we going to write about?
What are we going to write about?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And I like there was one the first song that
this little group wrote together was me and Nick and
this guy Henry whose circuit you know who you are, guys,
Nick Long Anyways, I love these guys and we had
so much fun that day and we're all getting you
walk in and you're like, hi, guys, I'm me and yeah,
and like let's see if I have anything to offer you,
(10:51):
and you just get to talking about your personal life
and opening up, and.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
So it could go it could be like.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I have there's no rhythm you but like you could
have no it's like a date. I mean it's like
you could go out with somebody and like struggle to talk.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
It's exactly like what it's like.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
And that's why finding the right like comfort to be
able to really be open and like be like this
happened and talking about it and trusting them and then
also like their person like liking their.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Ideas, like like you know, sometimes you're like.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I would never say that, are you polite?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Like if you don't really love the n idea at first,
or you say that's a good one, let's put a
pin in it.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I think it's like I definitely know when I like something,
and I know when I don't like something, and so
but they're I mean, there's all of them are so
talented to the point where the previous writing sessions I
think I got like they were hogging the room, like
to the point where I was like I need to
be in this guy else I'm not.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Gonna you know.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
So they it was like a really good balance of
like everybody participating.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And we had done and we actually had written.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
The first song that we wrote together this group was
a song called empty Bass and we were sitting there
and somebody just said empty vase. I think we were
even talking about that flower store that's in La here,
and it just hit me. I was like, oh my gosh,
I have that. That's the songs that we wrote the song,
but is there there's a floral theme. I mean, we've
heard some of these songs.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I've seen the track, we heard Empty Vase. Definitely, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I definitely was like I had written purple horses. Yeah,
there is a flower theme going on, but I had
written purple iruses because it represented like the growth of
love and I think that you can you can always
look at life by like the seed that's planeted and
what it turns into, and also like, you know how
it has a short life, you know what I mean,
(12:40):
it's a short life that we're living. And so there's
a lot of metaphors that like kind of represent that
whole gardening thing, because me and Blake actually really did are.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Really into gardening.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And so when you're out there in nature and you
have plant the seed, it's like this hope, you know,
and once you plan it, it forces you to have hope,
right Yeah, And that's kind of how it was with
the album, because I felt like I knew I wanted it,
and that was I had already planted the seat in
my own brain that I needed to do it, and
there was always this hope.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
No matter what got in the way of it. But
when we were in.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
The studio with Madison and she would be like at
first she was like, I was like, who is this girl?
Speaker 4 (13:18):
And like every five minutes she's like, well, maybe it
could be maybe it could be this, Maybe you could
be that.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I was like, oh my gosh, like let me think,
like think, you know. And then next thing I knew,
like she started coming with some incredible like just melodies,
like lyrical things, and you start to trust each other like, wow,
you really are you really got it. So we write
this whole song and she's actually in the booth like
laying down like.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
A little like like a little.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Demo so that I could sing over it because I'm
really learning the melodies, and she sings so pretty and
dah da da, And then I put it together that
she's the daughter of this music this famous music like
vocal teacher called what's her dad's name?
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I sure exactly see you even know who he is.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
And I was like, I literally felt like I was like,
oh my god, you're Roger Love's daughter.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I was like what, Like it was the weirdest feeling.
And it was after we'd already like.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Made out all day long, because like when you're like
so you know, it was a really amazing process.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I have to say, it is so special when'ste Funny here.
It's so special for you to come in and sort
of frame what you did and how you got to
where we're going to hear right when this all comes out,
because it does give it a lot more context and perspective,
so that the amused bouquet. It's out November fifteenth. You
can pre order it now. Somebody Else's course is out now.
And we just love you for always coming by and
(14:42):
being a part of this what we feel is our
Southern California family here.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So thank you Gwen for coming into that.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yes, so come for life.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Love.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You're gonna if you are ever out and you hear
us playing all these songs, feel free call in anytime
and sudd really, Hey, yeah, I'm gonna give you the line.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
We're gonna give you the line to any time.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I'm gonna just totally have the radio on the whole
time and my phone like daling.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
We're coming back, Sistany's gonna tell us what's new this morning.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Thanks Quen, great to see you back on Kiss
Why don't two point seven It is Kiss FM.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Are you familiar with this? Yeah, I think this. I
love this one, so.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Of course this from way back in the day, no
doubt therek Gwent Stefani here, who was amazing. Everybody Gwent
was buzzing about your set after you did it at
our iHeartRadio Music Festival in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I was backstage and Camilla Kbeo was on right before me,
and she was all sexy and like twerking and.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Doing all her stuff. You know, we were on the
voice together, so we know each other pretty good. She's
a sweet little girl. I love her.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
But I was like, oh my gosh, I gotta come
out there and do some stuff next, like changing the choreography.
I was like, maybe I can do that toirl on
the what does she had like some kind of a
tourling thing she did. But it was a really exciting
and I love I love the fact that it's kind
of like a five songs like slap them around and
(01:01):
then you're done a minute. Like sets are like, oh
my god, it's so exhausting, but it's just so fun
to do like such a quick you know.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
But yeah, it was super fun.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I had well you did the set listen was the
Sweet Escape, then somebody Else's Don't Speak justicic Hall the background,
and it was like by at that point, and somebody
Else's is the new one. How many times did you
perform that song in front of people? That was the
first time like that really?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I think that was the first time.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, because I had done in rehearsal like a couple
I did it a few times, but never live. And
so that's the thing when you have the new song,
You're like, oh my gosh, how much can I move?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
You know what I mean? Because I I don't know
where you're breath yet.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You have to like learn how to like know when
to move on stage, and so I was definitely.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Out of breath.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I was like, oh my gosh, I learned that I'm
not going to move a lot on that song when
I sing it next time. Next time, I didn't. I
was like, okay, dancers, you dance, I'm gonna see. It
has a lot of long notes.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
And it's entirely here in a second.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We did have a chance to get a little sample
of some of the album, which we will we can't
play now because it's not out, but we got a chance.
Then thank you for giving us permission for that. We
got a chance to get a little the vibe of
this album. And I think you were saying maybe I
read it, heard it. I don't know if you told
me you were saying. This track, the first single, somebody Else's,
almost didn't make the album for some reason.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, because Okay, So I had been writing for a
long time. I mean, I wanted to write a record
so bad, but you guys know, it's really hard to
find time when you're a mom, and like you almost
I felt guilty, like, oh, you know, because I've already
had so much, so many blessings, and it's like to
just keep wanting more and more and more.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
It's like just you did it, you know what I mean,
Like why are you gonna go do more?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But I feel like when I write, like it's so
I need to do it.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, it's like working out for me, like I have
to do it.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
You know, I'm never going to have the body I had,
but I still want to work out.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I need to work out. By the way, you still
have the body you had.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
No, but you know what I'm saying, like you as
you live, You're like I did that a lot of times,
but I still feel like it helps me so much,
especially in my life going from everybody knows the family
broke up like it was and everyone's like, oh, it
was so much time's gone by, but that it takes
a long time to heal, you know what I'm saying
it and it goes really really fast, and so for
(03:22):
me to be able to write new music, and I
didn't even know how healing it was going to be
until like even the other day, I got on like
a big zoom with all of universal the world right,
it was like all these and I was like crying
playing the record for them because I'm like, I can't
believe how emotional it is to write songs over a
really long period of time and share your life and
(03:43):
then have.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
People hear it.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It's it's it's weird because the songs are literally handed
down by God like it is very like a spiritual thing.
So sharing it, you get this whole another layer after
listening to it all this time myself and then having it,
like I don't know, exposed, it's it's very cool.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
So whatever gets old is.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
This span of time and emotion that is encapsulated in
this album. For you in terms of all the different songs,
are they in different periods for you?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
So many layers to this.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And it's the thing is when I started writing, I
really went down the path of like I want to
make a reggae record, No I'm gonna make I want
to go because it was twenty twenty and it felt
like I want to make a really happy record. Then
something that had and everything felt very nostalgic like that
was that music was coming back again, like everyone was
listening to the old stuff from TikTok, Like all of
my songs were getting big again on TikTok That's wild.
(04:36):
So I was inspired by that. And then as I
was going down that path, I kept feeling like I
was chasing myself, like trying to like compete with the
old me. And it was never it wasn't like I
loved the songs, but it just didn't feel like nobody
else did.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Or I was like, no one's reacting, maybe I am.
Maybe it is over, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
And then it would just keep going and going, and
you have to remember like these are stolen moments, Like okay,
they're at school, I have four hours go in.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
And write with some people you don't know, and a
lot of.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It I was writing on zoom because we were in
COVID and so then like the energy's different. It was
just the whole thing was a weird, and it really
felt like I had to fight for myself.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Like, Okay, nobody cares if I do it.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I probably shouldn't be doing it. I should probably be
cooking dinner.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But like I just I knew I needed to do it.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
So I kept going, going going, and at one point
like I had enough songs to make a record, but
it just didn't feel right. And then I went in
the studio. You know what it was. I was talking
to Adam Levine and he's such a jerk. I was like,
how do you You must have sold your soul with
the devil because look, how do you have all these hits?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Still?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Like that's crazy and he's like we just had we're
having a personal conversation. I don't need Adam, and he
was like, oh no, you need to work with Ja Cash.
And Ja Cash is you know a guy that is
like really super talented producer, songwriter, blah blah blah. And
so it took me like to even get him on
the phone right me, and I'm like, wow, God.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Like he's a busy Well, yeah, you have to wait
in line.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But it was just fun to like meet somebody that
was going to be my like be in my corner.
And he had sent me this song true Babe, which
I don't know you guys heard that song, but this
little girl, Nico wrote it and sent it to me,
and I was like, you know what, I really I
don't ever do people's songs, like it's just what's the
point of it for me? It's like the process, it's
like the but I love the song. And I was
(06:33):
in that kind of like in between space. I wasn't
doing anything. So I cut the song and I met
Nico and she's like, oh my.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Gosh, my mom used to listen to No Doubt.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Like you're like a little girl like girl wrote it.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I was like, I love you, Nico. And it was interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
It's an interesting like evolution to be in the room
with this girl who is like soup young, beauty, stunningly beautiful, talented,
confident and ready to collaborate with me. And it was
like I needed that, Like I needed this fresh perspective
on me. And he's really finding the right people that
(07:11):
you can. Oh yeah, I got chills, like finding the
right people to be able to be myself and be like, Okay,
now I know what I'm gonna do. Now I know
I'm I landed. So I kind of wrote Purple Viruses
with her, and that was when I was like, okay,
now I know where I'm at.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
And so it took me all that.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Time, but I did a lot in between that time.
It wasn't you didn't you guys didn't see all the
songs I wrote, and some of them are really I
maybe they come out one day, I don't know. But
the thing is is that once I wrote that song,
I just felt like I got into the me now
like this, I don't it.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Doesn't fit into anything that's happening.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
It's not me before, it's not me me and Sabrina
Carpenter or me and you know, it's just me.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
It's like where I'm at.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So it's just very therapeutic and it feels really good
to just have like an it's like an art project. True,
I'm sure like almost like starting over. Like the attitude
is like I'm doing this because I get to do it.
I get to paint in my closet when my kids
go to school kind of thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I love to hear that though, because we hear the
songs and we don't get to know about the paint
brush inside the closet.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yes, the four hours that you had.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So let's let's take a quick break. I want to
come back and play something, so somebody else's is out.
Let's play that and you can hear what we're talking
about here with Gwen Stefani next on one of two
point seven Kiss FM.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Hang on, please, when's the Fanny?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Somebody else's by the way, I mean, you know this,
but the second you open your mouth, you know it's
when's the Fani? You have a signature, which is why
you're a superstar. By the way, ever a question.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I have it chills right now because that was such
a moment to be in here, like hearing the song
with Gwen in the studio, and it's just I love
you so much and I feel.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Like I'm in a weird dream, like I'm like, is
this happening.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I just love that you wrote the most beautiful thank
you note for somebody not being in your life. It's
like that was the sweetest thank you for not being
a part of my life.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I cannot take all the credit. I this is the thing.
So I once I found Ja Cash, going back to.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Jake Cash, I want to live to somebody.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I'm giving everyone credit because I would not have this
record without the people that I wrote and I'm saying,
and people that took the time to listen to my story.
And I mean a lot of times when you were
in these writing sessions and back in the day, it
was just me with the no doubt guys, and I
did all the lyrics, I did all the melodies.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
And they did all the music or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And then slowly, like when I did my first solo records,
I went in and it was like there's a circuit
of writing, like there's always like the hot writers of
the moment, and I didn't even know that existed back then,
you know what I mean. And then I worked with
Linda Perry and it was like it went on and on.
But this is like these young new like coming you know,
up and coming artists or whatever writers. And I Cash
(09:55):
put me in with this young girl called Madison Love.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Shout out, Madison, what's up. She's listening.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
She actually like posted that you guys played the song
the other day's and but what was Sonny like she's
she was like again like I'm like, how are you
that cute? And pretty and like young and confident? Like
in a way like so we're all sitting down and
we have to like we just start talking. Most of
it's just talking until all of a sudden, like a
(10:22):
song just plops out of the sky.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, because it's like what are we going to write about?
What are we going to write about?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And I like there was one the first song that
this little group wrote together was me and Nick and
this guy Henry whose circuit you know who you are, guys,
Nick Long Anyways, I love these guys and we had
so much fun that day and we're all getting you
walk in and you're like, hi, guys, I'm me and yeah,
and like let's see if I have anything to offer you,
(10:51):
and you just get to talking about your personal life
and opening up, and.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
So it could go it could be like.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I have there's no rhythm you but like you could
have no it's like a date. I mean it's like
you could go out with somebody and like struggle to talk.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
It's exactly like what it's like.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
And that's why finding the right like comfort to be
able to really be open and like be like this
happened and talking about it and trusting them and then
also like their person like liking their.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Ideas, like like you know, sometimes you're like.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I would never say that, are you polite?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Like if you don't really love the n idea at first,
or you say that's a good one, let's put a
pin in it.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I think it's like I definitely know when I like something,
and I know when I don't like something, and so
but they're I mean, there's all of them are so
talented to the point where the previous writing sessions I
think I got like they were hogging the room, like
to the point where I was like I need to
be in this guy else I'm not.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Gonna you know.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
So they it was like a really good balance of
like everybody participating.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And we had done and we actually had written.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
The first song that we wrote together this group was
a song called empty Bass and we were sitting there
and somebody just said empty vase. I think we were
even talking about that flower store that's in La here,
and it just hit me. I was like, oh my gosh,
I have that. That's the songs that we wrote the song,
but is there there's a floral theme. I mean, we've
heard some of these songs.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
I've seen the track, we heard Empty Vase. Definitely, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I definitely was like I had written purple horses. Yeah,
there is a flower theme going on, but I had
written purple iruses because it represented like the growth of
love and I think that you can you can always
look at life by like the seed that's planeted and
what it turns into, and also like, you know how
it has a short life, you know what I mean,
(12:40):
it's a short life that we're living. And so there's
a lot of metaphors that like kind of represent that
whole gardening thing, because me and Blake actually really did are.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Really into gardening.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And so when you're out there in nature and you
have plant the seed, it's like this hope, you know,
and once you plan it, it forces you to have hope,
right Yeah, And that's kind of how it was with
the album, because I felt like I knew I wanted it,
and that was I had already planted the seat in
my own brain that I needed to do it, and
there was always this hope.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
No matter what got in the way of it. But
when we were in.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
The studio with Madison and she would be like at
first she was like, I was like, who is this girl?
Speaker 4 (13:18):
And like every five minutes she's like, well, maybe it
could be maybe it could be this, Maybe you could
be that.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I was like, oh my gosh, like let me think,
like think, you know. And then next thing I knew,
like she started coming with some incredible like just melodies,
like lyrical things, and you start to trust each other like, wow,
you really are you really got it. So we write
this whole song and she's actually in the booth like
laying down like.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
A little like like a little.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Demo so that I could sing over it because I'm
really learning the melodies, and she sings so pretty and
dah da da, And then I put it together that
she's the daughter of this music this famous music like
vocal teacher called what's her dad's name?
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I sure exactly see you even know who he is.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
And I was like, I literally felt like I was like,
oh my god, you're Roger Love's daughter.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I was like what, Like it was the weirdest feeling.
And it was after we'd already like.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Made out all day long, because like when you're like
so you know, it was a really amazing process.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I have to say, it is so special when'ste Funny here.
It's so special for you to come in and sort
of frame what you did and how you got to
where we're going to hear right when this all comes out,
because it does give it a lot more context and perspective,
so that the amused bouquet. It's out November fifteenth. You
can pre order it now. Somebody Else's course is out now.
And we just love you for always coming by and
(14:42):
being a part of this what we feel is our
Southern California family here.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
So thank you Gwen for coming into that.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yes, so come for life.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Love.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You're gonna if you are ever out and you hear
us playing all these songs, feel free call in anytime
and sudd really, Hey, yeah, I'm gonna give you the line.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
We're gonna give you the line to any time.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I'm gonna just totally have the radio on the whole
time and my phone like daling.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
We're coming back, Sistany's gonna tell us what's new this morning.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Thanks Quen, great to see you back on Kiss
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