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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I know.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's the only way we know how to what a
two point seven kiss FM. I gotta tell you, Harvey,
we're celebrating twenty years Harvey Leven with us now at TMZ,
we're celebrating twenty years of this show on Earth Ride Secrets.
You guys launched TMZ the website how many years ago,
nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
And you know what.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
You know why I bring it up because and you're
so kind in inciting it. I saw you doing some
press for this specially you're doing and you were talking
about us starting a collaboration early on. I remember the
first year of this show was when we first started
to collaborate about TMZ because y'all were launching as just
a website.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Well, I will say, to go down memory lane.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
I ran into Ryan at a restaurant called mister chow
Y Yeah, And I walked up to a stable and
he said, what are you up to? And I said,
you know, I'm working on this thing that we're going
to launch this website. We're gonna call it TMZ. And
you asked me what it was about, and you said,
I love this idea. I'm going to put you on
(01:03):
my radio show when you launch. You were the only
person who believed that this was a good idea. Everybody
else told me this was a terrible idea. You got
it and you said do it, and I kind of
needed to hear that from somebody. So I am forever,
aside from just loving this person, I am forever indebted
to you.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Thank you. Wow, look at what I mean.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
It completely reinvented the way that stories are told, the
way that we get information. And by the way, I
don't think anyone has the sources and the closeness that
you have to get stuff before your team has before
anybody else. It's pretty remarkable, is that. Just years and
years of relationships and obviously cleverness.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Again, you are just so unbelievably smart. And I'm not
just saying that, yes, and nobody asks it that way.
Nobody asks. Everybody says, OHTMZ must be doing something to
get these stories.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
No.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I mean, first of all, I was a news reported
here for several decades before I started TMZ, and then
I have a staff here that for almost twenty years.
You know, we've been developing relationships, so exactly, there's no
magic to it. I mean, reporting is reporting, and it
means that You've got to find people who trust you,
(02:19):
who think you're fair, and you establish relationships with them.
And that's the way it works in every area of reporting.
When you go to Washington, d C. And cover the
White House, you find sources who will talk to you.
And it's the same thing covering pop culture, the same
skill set. It's establishing relationships and nurturing them. And that's
(02:40):
what it simply is about. And you actually said it
in a very clear way that a lot of people just.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Don't get Harvey Levin with this. I have to tell
you also work hard. I mean you work hard. I
know I work no, No, I know, no, no, I know
I work. You are up before I am, and you
have been for a long long time. You're working into
the weekend, you're working at night. You do not phone
this in.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I know that.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
And so there's to me that that hard work is
certainly a part of it too. But I want it
speaking of poor, speaking of another thing he's doing. So
TMC presents Arnold in Sly Rivals Friends icons Premierre on
Fox Tonight eight seven Central Stream and to Mount Hulu, tell.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Us about this and why you're excited about it?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Well, look, it goes back a long way. It goes
back to nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
I had just come back to LA to practice law,
and I was working out at a gym in Hollywood
and there was this dude there I would talk to
from time to time. He was a nice guy, and
I remember talking to him on Friday. On Monday, he
was the biggest start in the world. It was Sylvester
Stallone and Rocky had come out over the weekend, and
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I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Nobody knew. It was just like nobody knew. And then
you know, all these.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Years later, I end up working out of the same
gym as Arnold Schwarzenegger, and I knew these two had
this intent rivalry that really developed into this incredible friendship.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And then I just.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Thought, well, that's kind of the book ends of part
of my life. And I thought, if you could get
the two of them together and just be candid about
why they were such rivals and why they felt each
one was threatening the other, and then how it developed.
And I'm telling you, the stories are this one of
(04:25):
my favorite things I've ever done. These stories are so good.
And one would tell a story about what they did
to the other and the other had no idea until
it was said, and they're like, you did that?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I mean, And then it gets into you know, they're
very different people.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Slay is really emotional and Arnold is this kind of
straight ahead guy, and how their childhood affected them to
this day, how they raise their kids and how they
instill values in them. But just the two of them,
and to see how deferential and how much they love
each other now and what it was like back then,
it's really.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Interesting Schwarzenegger and Stallone.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
So why do you think they were comfortable enough to
go there now?
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Because they First of all, what I love about them
is they're not fearful. These guys have no fear in them,
so they're not afraid to talk about this and it's
part of their lives. It's a mosaic of their life.
And they both really kind of wanted to do this,
and honestly, right I wasn't sure how it was going
to go. But they are so candid and it was
(05:32):
not an interview. It was a three way conversation and
they would then just kind of engage themselves and they'd
be surprised at something.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
They would say. They disagree with things, but it's it's real.
I mean, you will get them when you watch this.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
It's it's why I watched maybe people listening saw as
well as Susney Tani. I watched their documentaries independently, and
I learned a lot. So just knowing you're going to
be in the same place with both of them going
in is very compelling.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
I can't remember whether it was Sli or Arnold who
told me afterward that what they felt in this special
that we're doing is they took the two documentaries and
they intersected them so that you could see how their
lives kind of cross paths, and their similarities and their differences.
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Why it is that they had this kind of competitiveness,
So the two documentaries kind of come together when they
both come together, and you will hear a lot. You
will understand the two of them together when you watch
this thing.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
All Right, I checked out.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'm sorry for hyping this, but I'm really into it.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Hiamatic, it's TMZ presenter, Harve you Love and the Arnold
and Sly, the rivals of Frenzy Icons Fox and then Hulu.
I can see your atomic clock to the second behind you.
I know you've got to do something immediately, so I'll
let you.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I want to say two things.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
One it's on tonight at eight eastern, seventh Central, And
the second thing I want to say is I loved
American idol.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Oh, thank you? How do you like what struck you?
Speaker 5 (07:10):
I just thought the performances were so good. I mean,
every single performance was so memorable.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
And I don't know I was thinking as I was watching.
I thought, my god, you have done this. Wow, you
have you? But you have been the steward of this
thing for so long and it's just so good still.
I mean a lot of shows after twenty years they
kind of lose their mojo.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
It was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Thank you, Thank you for watching. Enjoy what you're about
to do.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I want to hear about and I'll see after absolutely Okay,
thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
That looks great, doesn't here?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I got to put him on my fridge next to
Beckham as my motivation. No, I don't know, maybe not
much right, Like he.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Looks so good. Yeah, did you.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Hear how he's doing these things? And maybe you know
this is the thing. He's meeting people at the gym
like I am.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
The deals being worked out what's next. You gotta look
up from your workouts and you look at the people. Yeah,
have a conversation, all right, let's pay a bell on
the eight one eight next