Katy Perry on Everything From Meditation to Motherhood, '143' & More!

Katy Perry joined Seacrest in-studio to chat her new album "143." Listen back to the full interview here.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look who is here. I mean, the kiss is built.
There's like a there's a level of kiss that is
just Katy Perry. Without Katy Perry, what the K stands for? Yes, Kay,
it's just I s would be without you FM, but
we have Katie Kiss.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I literally walked in the halls and I saw so
many people I've known my whole career for over fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
The security guy at the front, I mean.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, but also like Jojo, I'm going to go and
talk to him later. I'm like, we've been we've been
doing this, We're all still here.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
It looks so great because you remember you probably don't
I remember the first time you were here.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh, Brian, you're a liar and a fraud. I'm not
I remember remember it. I do because the song you
released so controversial at the time. I remember playing all
my songs are are they controversial?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
All of it? All of it? It is the new
album going to be controversial. I'm a polarizing figure.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Is that what they say in the research? But but
but Katie came in a little late but close to
one time. Yeah, and she said some words that actually
resonated with me. You said and it was difficult for
you to say this, because I know it was about
other people.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
You said, I miss you.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Oh, like today are you talking about today?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I thought you were going to nostalgia.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
But I'm back to it today. You walked inside issue.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
I said I missed you because I looked at you
and I did miss you.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I do miss you. Guys, think now it's all of us,
thank you. We miss you too. But we did see you.
I know you're working, but we did see you launching
out of a helicopter. Made it, he made you do it. Yeah,
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
I was like, I'll come along for the ride.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
I'm doubtful I'm gonna go.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
And then and then he's like yelling at me with
his three sixty camera and he's.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Like, you're jumping with me? And I'm like, yes, I'm
doing it. Have you ever?

Speaker 4 (01:55):
No, I've never done skydiving. I have not been skydiving.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Actually we were some time with some friends that are
like master skydivers.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
They taught Orlando how to skydive.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
So he's done it. Yeah, in a way.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
He wings suits. I mean he's almost a base suit.
He does it by himself. He almost is a base jumper.
I won't let him base jump anyways, So they were
with us and we were like, let's do it, and
they went skydiving and I didn't go skydiving. I figured
I'm gonna save all that stuff to when I'm eighty, because,
like my my karma is so great.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Why push it? Why push it?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Why I'll I'll just try everything I'll.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
But but you are you are spiritual. You speak of
karma like you are spiritual. I think you believe like
what you put out you get back right?

Speaker 2 (02:40):
One?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
And did you learn that later in life or through that?
What was that? Uh? What was that thing you made
me do? Which? Which one? The meditation? T? Yeah? I
made you do it? You force me?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Are you doing it now?

Speaker 3 (02:55):
No? It's too much work, Oh God, from.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
A man, by the way, from a man that only
loves to work, it's too much work.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, so ironic. It's called it's TM meditation.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Right, it's called transcendental meditation. I've been doing it for
fifteen years. It's changed my life. It's given me so
much energy.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
But explain to his name? Wow, what the committe? Okay, everybody,
every the commit everybody bring it in.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Okay, it's only twenty minutes twice a day.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
If you really want to be really twenty minutes, you
want to be.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Really militant about it. I do it maybe twenty minutes
every few days. I do it supplementary as needed, just
kind of like exercise. The more you get in the gym, more.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Buff you get. Just do it. It changed my life.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Wow, this last night, like last night, motherhood changed my life.
It's like, because no sleep. Right last night I got
I would say four hours. I hacked it by meditating
myself to sleep, which feels like a two hour nap,
so I probably got six hours.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
So Tanya, could you do it? Yes, this sounds so
something that I need to try. There's no chance you
could do it.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I want to do it, but I don't think I
could get past the first session.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
You guys, you think you're so special. No, think you're
the only ones that have things going on. The top
people in the world, President, Fortune, five hundred people, all
kinds of leaders.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
This is like their number one thing tool.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
And Ryan, I've been telling you about this for seven
something years, but I'm really glad that you're curious today,
of all days.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm curious. I'm curious to do it too.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
So, speaking of spirituality, one four three. Katy Perry is here.
Her album is called one four to three. It's out
September twelve. I love that one four.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
To three is significant in what way? And what does
it mean?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Well, it's my angel number and it shows up anytime
kind of you know, I need a little confirmation or
a sign from from my highest guide or from the
angel whatever.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I mean. I literally walked. This is not this is funny.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
This is funny.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
I literally walked on the elevator today in this building
and the first thing I saw when the door is
open is one of four point three.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I know we're not on one o four point three,
but it's the first thing I saw was one four.
I was like, oh, hey, what's up? Today is going
to be a great day. We're right on target.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
One oh four point three. It's my angel number. Because
I was going through a tough time a medical situation.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
With my family.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I was I was getting really really anxious and I
needed something no just with my immediate family, and so
so I started seeing it and I looked it up,
and it means I love you, yeah in a digital language.
Remember back in the way in Pai pagers you could
text never I don't I'm not that. Oh no, come
on seventh grade?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
You So if you text so I'm curious about So
if I text someone Katie one four three, will they
know what that means?

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Have you ever told anyone that you loved them?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Here we go, Here we go, let's start to you
ever loved Ryan?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
You?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
I miss you so much.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Let's come back Katy Perry here because I found Yeah,
Katy Perry with us now she has a newcoming September
twenty yeh, that's right.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I would you say?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
So?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
I've seen the evolution.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Of you, at least for well for a long time,
but more closely in the last seven years. I've seen
you in a happy relationship. I've seen you happy with you.
I've seen you're in great shape, right, I mean, you're
definitely swing.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
You're swimming so much it's paying off. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I see you, and you tell me I see you
as you wake up every day. You're Katy Perry with
exuding confidence, exuding confidence.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Do you have insecurities?

Speaker 4 (06:34):
One thousand percent?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
That's why I have a therapist for over twelve years.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
And do you think you're right less now? No?

Speaker 2 (06:43):
But no, I have less. Here's a deal. Yeah, after
my daughter was born, I found out I found all
the love I ever ever needed, all the love I
was looking for every view I climbed every mountain before her,
and I was looking for the view, and the view
was her. And so now my joy is not really
outside of myself. My joy is within myself, my family

(07:06):
with her, and so it really can't be ever taken away.
And so there's something really powerful about that. I also
believe it's my purpose on this planet to do what
I'm doing, to be a connector a communicator, to empower
people through little messages of love, empowerment, strength, resilience. That's

(07:29):
kind of my tea, right, And so I feel very
secure in who I am because I've figured out who
I'm meant to be.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
How old is Daisy now? She's four? So is Sistani?
Did you feel the same? I mean, I guess you know. Yes,
Katie said to me, Ryan, You've got out a kid.
You've got to do it. It's that unconditional love that
you didn't even know existed or that you could feel.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
It's the biggest cliche ever, and it's the one that
pays off the moment.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
It's so true.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
So how did so Speaking of where you are and
the things that are you know, fulfilling you. How did
that impact one four three the album coming out.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
I've never been able to write an album I think
out of feeling more whole, you know, less broken. I
think a lot of artists are like in a lot
of pain when they first start out. I mean me especially.
I was trying to create a different reality. I wasn't
especially happy with the reality I was born into, so
I was.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Like, I'm going to change my world. I'm going to
create a new world.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
And I've created a big, big world, and so, you know,
I think the biggest lie that artists wherever sold is
that you have to stay in pain to create. And
I think I started when I was twenty three, and
all of that pain and passion it really fueled me.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Like gasoline.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
But if you at a certain point, like fifteen years later,
it starts to turn on you and the gasoline becomes fire,
and you've got to get out of the fiery house,
you know, and so you have to figure out how
to face it and deal with it. And that's what
you know. I think all artists are doing that. Get
the opportunity, especially in their thirties, if they get to
see their thirties.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
So let's play. Think about that, keep it in mind.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
This is Katy Terry lifetimes her latest single one O
two point seven.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Kiss Katy Perry.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
At times it's out, Katie is dancing, Sysney's singing to Katie,
Tanya staring her in the eyes, not blinking. The back
room is up on their feet. It is a little world.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Our steps that was so fund.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Very But you have to see Katie in concert if
you've never seen or perform live.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
It is a how it's how would you describe your show?
It's I'm a big fan of H.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Walt Disney, and so i'd like to I'm inspired by
the worlds that he created, and I like to create
my own worlds that are a little bit escapism, but
just a party, very celebratory, larger than life, everything and
the kitchen sink. More is more is more, and it's
super fun, especially you know this this next interval of

(10:10):
shows that will happen, They're going to be super fun.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
And sweaty and so immersive. That's correct.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I will say I'm going to miss you on Idle
because it was such a fun just comfortable thing.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Comfortable but also like what kind of mood.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Is she in today?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Well? And is she going to be on time? And
all those things. Well, as a viewer, I'm going to
miss you too. You brought this comedic relief in every
single episode.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
It felt like, so I am going to miss you.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Well, Luke will be doing that was part of it.
That was like your banter with Luke and that's exciting
each other.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
It was just so, it's gonna be great everybody. It's
a homecoming for Carrie. It's a yes, picked match. I
wouldn't have picked actually anyone else actually think that they
they made the right decision. I think everybody's going to
be so excited, especially like the big fans of American
Idol that have been along the journey for so long.
They're gonna be like, yes, this is what we wanted.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
So Katie, before you go, because we have to keep
moving here this morning, thank you for coming. It's always
special to see you. Who will get married first?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
You or me? Oh? This is the question.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Have you ever said I love you?

Speaker 3 (11:23):
One for three? Okay, let's start with one four three.
That's good. I'm gonna be that one four three. Thank
you so much.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Congratulations on your continued success, evolution of you, and.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Then big hugs to you. I love you. Took any time,
an everybody.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Coming.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
It's one. It's cool.