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September 30, 2025 13 mins

Lionel Richie joined Ryan Seacrest on-air on Tuesday, September 30, and took us behind his brand new memoir "Truly."

In "Truly," Lionel take fans on the fascinating journey from his childhood in Tuskegee, Alabama, to his adventures as a member of The Commodores and his big break of being signed to Motown kicking off his iconic, history-making career.

"It's not having the hit records, it's surviving the hit records," Lionel reflected with Seacrest while looking back on his journey.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One of two point seven Kiss FM, Los Angeles, California,
the home of Superstars, Legends, icons. And when I say that,
you think of one person, lin Oh, that's right.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I mean we have to stop meeting like this, but
thank you very much for then. Andro. I'll take it.
I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
I mean, Lino, I could not.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
You were all over my ABC station over the weekend
gm A and the gm A again, it was all
about Lionel Richie. I have to tell you, and you
know this, but it makes me happy every time I
hear it. When people say to me and I ask
them the same question, because they'll say, well, who have
you not met yet?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Or who have you worked with? You loved?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
And you know the answers or the answers. Then I'll
ask them who have you met? Who have you seen?
Some people in Hollywood, in our business and outside of
it around the country.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
You know what they say, you know what they say.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
You are the number one person of the kindest, nicest,
most generous celebrity people have ever met.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
And it's consistent. It is.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Everyone says that who has met you? And I just
admire it. I mean, look, it's not hard, right, I mean,
that's we're grateful, but you really are that well.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I take it, first of all as a compliment, but
I always tell people that are trying to get into
our business, and you can relate to this. You know,
everyone wants to be famous, But I say, I hope
you like one very important factor about famous. I hope
you like people, because when you get famous, you're going
to be bothered by people for the rest of your life.

(01:33):
If you're lucky. Now, if you don't like people, then
you're going to need security all the time. Why to
keep people from talking to you, from people touching you,
from people recognizing you. Now you're going to be bored
and completely out of your mind because you just want
some time for yourself. I have gotten to the point
where my beginning stages are now still the same. I

(01:56):
like people. Half the songs I've written about are about
people telling me stories about themselves. How about that? So
if you're not in contact with people, then you're missing
half the joy of being in the famous business.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, you know, Lionel's got a memoir out called Lionel's Memoir.
Truly is what it's called out today, available wherever books
are sold. And we have sat around and heard you
talk about I mean, guys.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
He did We Are the World.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I mean he put together We Are the World.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Watch that documentary.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, he did that overnight after the American Music Awards.
Why because that was the only time he could get
all those big names in one place to agree to
come to one place.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
And that's genius you said it.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I mean, the funny part about this is I'm having
an interview with you about my memoirs, truly, and you
know the same thing. I know, because you are a
student of every career that has ever come along. But
when I can catch you saying I'm looking forward to
something coming out that I don't know about, I can't
imagine what you don't know about my career.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
I do know a lot. But you also you know
I'm picking the stories. Choosing the stories must have been
been hard. You talk about your grandmother a lot. Your roots, Yeah,
I think talk about your roots for a second line,
Richie is with us, and I think just as a
as a general conversation for people. You know, you can
come from a very difficult past. You can have you know,
maybe you have no parents that are part of your life,

(03:24):
and that's a lot to overcome, very true. But thinking
about roots and thinking about home, how's that played into
who you've become?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, I must admit when people say to me, you know,
tell me about the struggle, and I start out by saying, well,
I was born in the South. I was born in
Tuskey g Alabama, and immediately said, oh my god, it
must have been rough. I said, no, no, no. I was
born and raised on a university campus, Tuskegee University. And
then everybody gets quiet. Okay, so what could be difficult
about that? But it's difficult because it was happening. The

(03:57):
civil rights movement was happening all around us. We were
in the bubble. We were in the bubble. And my
struggle was can you imagine growing up on an academic
campus and the last thing I was was academic because
I didn't realize at the time I was creative, and
everything at that time was judged by your grades. And

(04:19):
he's an amazing scholar, he reads like this, and I
was feeling at everything I could think about as far
as being that scholar. I was the kid that was
tapping on the table every fifteen seconds, and all I
heard throughout my career was mister Richie would you like
to join the rest of the class, which means I
am scatterbrain all over the place right, not realizing that

(04:41):
as I was growing up, I was in the wrong place.
I didn't realize until I moved to New York and
with the Commodores, that moved to La California. With the Commodores,
everybody was tapping on the table. You followed me.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I ran into a everybody had that artist flow. Everybody artists.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Now with Suskegee, what was so interesting? Can you imagine
growing up with the world famous Suskegee Airman as the
fathers and mothers of my class?

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Is the history and that the history and the.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I mean the house that I grew up in was
on the deed of the house is the Washington family.
This is Booker T. Washington. This is the family again.
So my grandfather, my grandmother, all this stuff now again.
I would love to tell you that all that helped
me with my songwriting. It didn't with all of those accolades.

(05:42):
I actually found myself when I met a group of
crazy guys on the campus called the Commodore. That change
in my life forever.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
I mean, the Linel Richie's with us.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I want to play just a clip of something here
and we'll play some more of it. You know he's
about this guy knows how to get people, you know what.
You know how babies are made?

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, through Lionel Richie.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
You know my answers, but you know my answer, right.
I hope the last name is not Richie.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
We're coming back with Lionel Richie here in just a
second one of two point seven kiss FM l A.
I know Richie is with us. He's a tree lover.
He's an arborist, that's his hobby. Loves trees, he loves nature.
He's got a memoir called Truly. It's out everywhere you
get your books. And Lionel is also obviously a judge
on American Idol. We've been doing that now seven eight years,

(06:34):
I think, almost, Vinyl, this is.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
A nice year coming up. Can you believe it?

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Wow, it's all running together, nine years together doing this time.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I would say something, Can I clear something up right quick?
I am sure so thrilled when people say, Lionel, you know,
I just want to tell you I got married in
your songs. I got engaged in your songs. I parted
on your songs, and I had babies on your songs,
and I want to just tell you thank you for
and all of a sudden I go, you know what,
I'm very happy about people having babies with my songs.
As long as the last name is not Richie. I'm

(07:05):
very happy for you.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, I think we understand.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Here comes that time in life when they say, hey,
guess what I'm going. Ah, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Uh, you know It'systanty Tanya. If you think, first of all,
one of my favorite loud Richie songs. Every time I
think I've texted you or called you, when Penny Lover
comes on somewhere, I play Penny Love.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
You know that's one of my favorites. Penny Lover walk on.
Ye I could, I could just do.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
But there are everybody's got their favorite, everybody's got and
all the songs you play when you go to a concert,
everybody knows they're all hits. You've met and worked with
everyone lie you've met and worked with music history, the
legends good which are no longer with us today.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know what the what the real surprise is is
that a lot of people don't understand this is a
treacherous business. As beautiful and as artistic as it is,
a lot of people don't make it through the tunnel.
Follow me and when you say, I work with him,
been around some of the greatest artists I have, but
I miss them because, you know, to be at the

(08:08):
other end of my career now, which means not the
end of it, but just celebrating it. And a lot
of the artists that had the talent of life did
not make it through. You know, I missed that group
of extraordinary people that just I can't even believe that
they're not here anymore. It's just it's just a loss.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
But when you think about the legends, just just I
mean Kenny Rodgers, he sat down and there.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
We start thinking about when when you say, lady, when
you walk in the door, and somebody said dian Or Ross.
And again, here's what makes that challenge so amazing. The
first duet I ever wrote it in my life was
for Diana Ross. I mean, I mean, I can't even
tell you the word is not nervous. The word was

(08:57):
to the point of blacking out. Okay, let's just talk
about it, right, you know, because what people don't understand
is when you have a chance to work with Quincy Jones,
for the first time. It just happens to me on
we are the world. I mean, give me a break.
You know, you've got a guy who says I've known
him since he was nine ten years old, Michael Jackson.

(09:18):
And then they look at you and say, okay, you
two write a song together. Well, what you know? And
then you only have forty five or some of the
graded not some of the greatest artists at the time
sitting in the crowd waiting for you to tell them
what to sing and how the song is supposed to go,
you know, and you just happened to glance over your shoulder.
Is that Bob Dylan? Oh my god? Is that Tina Turner?

(09:41):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (09:43):
They would never have gotten all into the same room
over the same course of one night if it weren't
for you pushing them to do it while everyone was
in Los Angeles for the AMAS, before they went back
out to their homes or tours.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Right, it wouldn't happen otherwise.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, let me give you, let me give you a
little background that it was not only just me. Let
me tell you. I give Quincy Jones the most incredible
credit for that, because here's Michael and myself sitting down
trying to figure Okay, are we going to produce this?
I mean, because we're going to write it, but are
we going to produce it? And Michael said, Mayan, now

(10:16):
we can produce this and make this the biggest thing ever.
And I told Michael, we are not going to produce
this because I want to be in a room and
be like the rest of the artists. So who is
the most incredible ambassador? Quincy is the guy we want.
And of course from that's going on, you hand that
grenade over to the master orchestrator, and it was Quincy

(10:40):
who said, here are the names we need to pull together,
and how do we pull it together? That was all
such an amazing moment for us to collaborate and be
artists and at the same time be the writers. But
those artists came in that room and they had a
half imagine this now half a line of peace. And

(11:02):
you had to have a recognizable voice so that we
didn't have your sign of your name in front of you.
You knew that five seconds that was Willie Nelson, two
seconds that was Springsteen. You know what I'm saying. One
second that's called Michael Jackson. Come on, and so what

(11:22):
happens is now? And when I say on American Idol
all the time, I said, I'm not looking for singers,
I'm looking for stylists. Can you recognize your name if
I'm not looking at you by your voice? And that's
the real perfect example of what that's what I'm trying
to say.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
You know, you check out his memoir it's called Truly.
There's also the doc it's called The Greatest Night in Pop.
You know, the other one that people should watch. I'm
just thinking to Quincy and music is the Black Godfather.
That's another great documentary.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yes, and believe me, let me tell you something. It
goes back to what I said in the book. Until
you understand, it's not having the hit records, it's surviving
the hit records. It's not having a career, it's surviving
your career. In other words, everyone keeps saying, Okay, I
got a hit record. Here we go. No no, no, no,

(12:13):
no money same and power does not change you. It
only magnifies you. So all of a sudden, if you
want ego, it gives you all the ego you want.
The drugs you got all the drugs you want. Women
you got all the girls you got, I mean, everything
that can kill you. You have it in your hands
to either live or die in your fame. And that's

(12:37):
the real test. Can you survive it? And believe me?
Every day I wake up and I go I can't.
I'm still here. I mean, that's amazing because it's not designed.
It's not designed to survive me.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I know what you say every morning the mayor.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Would you like to say that? Would you like me
to say it?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Do we tag? Came it all? I'll start you finished?

Speaker 2 (13:01):
So all right? You got it?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Alarm that doesn't go off so early?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
But go here?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
He gets up right, it's morning.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Time, gets out of bed, slowly makes his way to
the bathroom. Got a beautiful mirror in that bathroom, his
towels wrapped around his waist. He's about to jump in
the shower. And what do you say to the mirror?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Oh my god, it's Lionel Richie.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
I love you, buddy. I'll see you for auditions soon,
and good luck with this book.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Man, Love you all to death, love you bye?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
You so good.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
So got his perspective on being a celebrity too.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I loved hearing that

Speaker 3 (13:34):
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