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Previously on Red Pilled America.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
The employee as a class did the other face.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Dilbert became that face, and.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Then the old media grabbed onto it and said, oh,
there might be layoffs among the Dilberts.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
The know the people in cubicles, the frustrated cubicle warriors
had a new champion. It was Dilbert. Scott decided to
offer Dilbert on the Internet for free.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
And the Internet was brand new. It was something that
you could easily send on the Internet because it was
a relatively small file, and so it just took off
like crazy on the Internet.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
But then in two thousand and four, Scott met a lady.
Scott Adams, always looking to get involved in new innovations,
began blogging in the wake of Rathergate.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Who is Scott Adams. I'm Patrick Carelchi.
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And I'm Adriana Cortes.
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And this is Red Pilled America, a storytelling show.
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You can think of Red Pilled America as audio documentaries,
and we promise only one thing, the truth. Welcome to
Red Pilled America. It was a morning in April two
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thousand and five and Scott Adams was on vacation in
San Diego when he woke up feeling weird. Something was
wrong with his throat. He tried to speak, but it
was hard to get words out. Everything sounded slightly garbled.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
We assumed it was just normal laryngitas.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
So we went to the doctor.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
We did all the normal treatments for that stuff, went
to an ear nose throw person to see if there's
any kind of a tumor in there.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But there was nothing. Over the coming weeks and months,
his voice continued to falter. Then concern turned into genuine
fear because Scott Adams was faced with the stark reality
that he may never speak again. We're at part three
of our series of episodes entitled The Internet Dad. We're
looking for the answer to the question who is Scott
Adams by telling the story of the famed comic strip artist,
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author and podcaster.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
So to pick up where we left off, by two
thousand and five, Scott Adams Medal Lady. She had two
young children from a previous marriage. The Adams family was born.
The Dilbert cartoon artist had also picked up logging and
quickly found himself in a controversy. He posted a critique
about the lack of context provided by the media, and
then the mainstream media swiftly took his post out of context,
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ironically proving his point. His ability to grab attention through
blogging became undeniable, but behind the scenes, he was also
facing one of the most difficult challenges of his life.
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When he woke up that April two thousand and five morning,
his voice sounded hoarse. He thought maybe he had strapped
throat or laryngitis, or perhaps it was just a bad
case of allergies that he'd suffered from for years. So
he shook it off and went on with his vacation.
But when he returned to his home in a San
Francisco suburb, the voice problems continued. Sometimes it dropped off,
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and his words were at times garbled. He recorded his
condition for posterity and the course of.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
The omans had becomes necessary for a lot of people didges.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
All the political and which have connected them with one another.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Some words were clear as day, others not so much.
The condition wasn't going away, and the situation was quickly
becoming dire. Because, you see, aside from the regular demands
of life, Scott was a public figure to promote his
Dilbert comic strip, books and various business ventures, he had
to be able to speak clearly. Social events became a
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major obstacle. His wife often stood in as an interpreter.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
To add to this situation was the state of the
industry that brought him fame and fortune.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
The economic foundation of newspapers has collapsed, and that's happened
for two reasons. First, newspapers have lost half of all
of their classified advertising revenue, two internet websites that are
not subsidizing journalism. And the second thing that's happened is
that roughly half the audience has moved from newspapers in
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print to newspapers online.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
By two thousand and five, the newspaper industry was in
steep decline due to the rise of the internet.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
For decades, newspapers were gold dust for investors, annual returns
of over twenty percents with a norm, but most major
publishers have failed to adjust to the developments of the
last five years. There are now only twelve hundred daily titles,
a shocking job from the seventy five hundred in prints
during better times. The migration of re us to the
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Internet cannot be stopped.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Subscriptions to physical newspapers were plummeting, and Internet users were
unwilling to pay for their online equivalent.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
Well, when you have an email account, most of the
news is right there when you sign into your email,
so it's pretty much hard to ignore. So, I mean,
it pretty much beats the newspaper when you have to
pay for it and then it's right there you at home.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
It's over.
Speaker 8 (06:23):
I used to subscribe to the Boston Globe, but then
I just got a little bit expensive.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
And if everything's online, then why bother.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So while the financial cornerstone of the comic strip business
was collapsing, so was Scott Adam's voice, a situation that
drastically limited his business prospects. He was in a real
pickle and needed to find a fix for his problem
and fast.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Eventually he ended up under an MRI machine, finding out
what's wrong with my brain? Find out trying to decide
if I had, you know, aneurysms or other kinds of
Maybe there was a stroke I didn't know about. So
we went through all those options.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
That His doctors couldn't find anything physically wrong with him,
so logically they thought the problem was psychological.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
You can speak okay to your cat, as I could.
You can do a poem sometimes you can sing very
much like a stutter. But you can't have a normal
conversation with a normal person, and you especially can't talk
on the telephone.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
So he turned to a psychologist who suggested that perhaps
stress was the problem.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
She suggested value as a potential solution. I decided not
to try that route because I was pretty sure just internally,
it didn't feel like stress was the cause, because I
didn't feel like I was having more problems unstressful days
or less problems on unstressful days. So that just didn't
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feel right. So I decided to not try that.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
But then Scott remembered a health issue he experienced years
earlier when he was still working for the telephone company.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
What what happened is as soon as my hand would come
down to the paper with a pencil in it, the
pinky would start spasming, and the hand was perfect other one.
There were no problems structurally with a hand. It wasn't
carpal tunnel.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
When this problem surfaced years earlier, Scott sought the advice
of a doctor.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
He asked if I wanted to experiment and see if
there was anything that I and some other volunteers tried
that would help. So I tried a number of things,
from meditating to some occupational therapy where somebody would massage
my hand. None of that made any difference. So what
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did make the difference is I was still working my
day job at Pacific Bell and I would sit at
boring meetings for hours at a time, and below the
table I would just touch my pen to my pad
of paper and then lift it up before the spasm happened.
And then I got to the point where I could
leave it there for a second before the spasm happened,
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and eventually I just kept doing it until that second
would become two seconds, three seconds. At about five seconds,
it just whatever was wrong with my brain remapped, and
it just took the problem away.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Scott was eventually diagnosed with dystonia, a neurological disorder that
causes involuntary muscle contractions.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So I was good for several years, continued drawing the
way I always had. I just made sure I didn't
overdo it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
But then in two thousand and three, while trying to
get ahead on his work before leaving for a vacation,
he pushed the limits.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
And I worked through the pain, which I shouldn't have,
and the dystonia came back. I know it was in
my brain because when I drew left handed, as soon
as my left hand touched the paper with a pen,
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my right hand would spasm. So I thought if I
could find some way to draw on a pad or
on the computer, if such a thing existed, and I
wasn't sure it did at that time, then maybe my
brain wouldn't recognize it as drawing and it wouldn't give
me the spasm.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But this was two thousand and three, graphic tablets weren't widespread.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So I searched online and sure enough, walk Them makes
a device, the Cynique, that allows you to draw on it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So he called the company.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And the representative for Walcom said, sure, we'll send you
on tomorrow see if it works. So they were nice
enough to send me one. I hooked it up and
sure enough, even though I'm holding the stylus and drawing
on the screen just like I would draw on paper,
it doesn't activate the pinky.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Scott had solved his pinky spasm problem, but a few
years later, when his voice issue arose, he didn't see
any connection to his pinky spasm because I.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Didn't really think of them as spasms. The voice problem
was just a voice problem, and the spasm was a spasm.
And it was several years later after looking through a
number of all the standard approaches that people do for
voice problems, and none of them were working, and I
hadn't even found a name for the condition yet one
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day I just had this moment of inspiration. I can't
tell you why. And I thought to myself, well, maybe
these two things are connected. There were two things that
went wrong with my body, and one is called a
dystonia and the other is about my voice. So I
googled voice dystonia, and up pops this YouTube clip of
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someone with a spasmodic dysphonia problem.
Speaker 8 (11:32):
I have the rare version, the ab or the abductor version.
My focal cords stay open rather than open and shut,
and I sayund breathy quite frequently.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
The form of dystonia I have is abductor spasmodic dysphonia.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
These are two of the commoner variants of a disorder
called spasmodic dysphonia or SD for short.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Like the dystonia problem in Scott's pinky muscles, spasmodic dysphonia
is a neurological voice disorder that causes involuntary spasms of
the muscles in the larynx or voice box. These spasms
make the voice sound strained, choked, or intermittently cut off,
which can severely affect a person's ability to speak clearly.
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Watching these YouTube videos was a Eureka moment for Scott.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
And it took me five seconds to realize this was
exactly what I had because the person on the video
spoke exactly like I was speaking at the time.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Apparently his body was susceptible to muscle spasms. So Scott
turned back to his doctor with his self diagnosis, and
they said.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I think there's a doctor in our system. This was
the Kaiser system. He thought there was a doctor who
knew a lot about this, so he referred me to
doctor Smith. And when I went into her office I
started talking. It took her five seconds to say spasmodic dysphonia.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Doctors initially treated Scott's condition with boat talks injections to
the affected vocal cord muscles, temporarily weakening them to reduce spasms,
but over time the injections lost their effectiveness. Seeking a
more permanent solution, Scott was told about a complex surgery
that identified and severed the faulty nerves sending spasm signals,
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followed by an introduction of a healthy nerve supplied to
the vocal cords, essentially rewiring.
Speaker 10 (13:26):
The voice box.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
The procedure offered hope for lasting relief, but it also
carried significant risk.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
It's not guaranteed and At the time, I thought, well,
if it doesn't work, there's a chance that nothing after
that will ever work, right, because once you start mucking around,
who knows what happens after that. What I decided my
life frankly wasn't worth living the way it was, and
I decided that a chance of losing my voice entirely
was really not much of a risk at all compared
to the alternatives. So I took the surgery.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
In July two thousand and eight, Scott went under the knife.
He'd later describe the recovery process.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
This is weird feeling where your brain is not connected
to your vocal cords, so you're thinking words in your
mouth is moving and nothing's happening. It's kind of strange.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
But about three months later his wife walked in, I.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Said hi, and it worked. Now. It was a long time, really,
probably almost a year before I could have a strong voice.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
In the aftermath of his surgery, Scott again recorded his
voice for posterity.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Hello, my name is Scott Adams, and about five and
a half months ago I had surgery to correct spasmodic dysphonia.
This is the end of two thousand and eight, and
this is how I sound. After that length of recovery,
I would say my voice is about ninety eight percent
effective in terms of being understood.
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Scott Adams underwent surgery to correct his voice box. By
the end of two thousand and eight, you could speak
in a way that was under standable. It was back
in business, and it couldn't have been at a better
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time because his Dilbert comic strip was having a kind
of resurgence.
Speaker 9 (17:10):
Good Evening, Good people of Television. I stand before you tonight,
not just as a presenter or an internationally famous personality
of TV and film, but as part of a show
called The Office.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Dilbert had paved the way for the Office, an NBC
sitcom satirizing the absurdities of corporate life, the bureaucracy, in
competent management, meaningless meetings, and cubicle culture. The Office became
a massive hit and heralded. Legacy media outlets like The
New Yorker made a direct connection between the hit sitcom
and Dilbert, calling Scott Adams a genius and legend. In
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late two thousand and eight, Scott published Dilbert two point zero,
twenty Years of Dilbert, celebrating the comic strip's two decade anniversary.
It wasn't long until Newsworld that a live action film
version of Dilbert was in development, to be directed by
the man behind the American version of The Office. Scott
adams pop culture status was again on the rise. In
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twenty thirteen, he published the semi autobiographical self help book
How to Fail At Almost Everything and Still Win Big,
And with his voice fully returned, he re entered the
public spotlight.
Speaker 11 (18:21):
We're here with legendary cartoonist Scott Adams, who writes and
draws the brilliant Diliber cartoon strip, talking about the new
book how to fail at almost everything and still win big.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
You know, when most speakers say I'm really happy to
be speaking to you today, I really mean that. Introducing Scott,
I just want to thank you for helping us to
laugh at ourselves and making it totally socially acceptable to
laugh at all the people that drive us crazy. My
toublet for success has three main components, starting with goals
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are for losers.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
For over twenty years, his Dilbert comic strip had been
the champion of workers frustrated by the absurdity of corporate life.
At its peak, indicated by two thousand newspapers in sixty
five countries with the global readership of one hundred and
fifty million people. Aside from countless products, it spawned an
animated cartoon and paved the way for one of the
most popular sitcoms in America. A Gilbert live action movie
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was even in the works. Scott Adams was no doubt
of a love national figure. But in twenty fifteen, someone
would come along that would fascinate Scott, a fascination that
would eventually place a massive target on his back.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
And I said, somebody should run against John McCain, who
has been you know, in my opinion, not so hot,
and I supported him, but Frank, Frank, let me get
to him.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
He hit me hero.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
He's not a war hero, war hero. He's a war
five and a half years. He's a war hero because
he was captured. I like people that weren't captured. Okay,
I hate to tell you. I was doing a blogging
about the election back in twenty fifteen and I started
talking about Trump's talent stock for persuasion. In particular.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Scott was trained as a hypnotist, so when most lampooned
Trump for his seemingly childish attacks on his opponents, Scott
saw something different. He saw a man who understood the
art of persuasion.
Speaker 9 (20:19):
His visceral response to attack people on their appearance short, tall, fat, ugly.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
My goodness, that happened in junior high.
Speaker 12 (20:28):
Mister Trump.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I never attacked him on his look. And believe me,
there's plenty of subject matter right there.
Speaker 11 (20:35):
But I can tell you so.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
That was my special angle on it. It's just whether
his technique was good for persuading people. So less about
the politics, more about the technique.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
In one moment from the first Republican presidential debate stood
out to.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
Scott, you've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slavs,
and disgusting animals your Twitter account.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I only wrote to o'donald.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Donald Trump took a question that would have destroyed almost
every other candidate and pulled a jiu jitsu move to
bring the audience to his side. Scott had seen enough.
A week later, he made a bold prediction.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
A lot of people ask me what could bring down
Donald Trump. Probably there's no defense, and that's why I've
predicted he probably will win the presidency based just on skill.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
In the months that followed, Scott was one of the
few pop culture figures that saw Trump winning the election,
and the prediction made him a bit of an oddity
to the mainstream media. They all wanted to talk to
the man it actually thought Trump could win.
Speaker 10 (21:42):
So I've been trying to invite people on the show
who could explain how we might defeat Donald Pumpkinhead and
tell me your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
And I've been studying persuasion for decades, and when I
saw Trump last summer displaying the tools of persuasion, I thought,
oh my god, hera clown. Everything he's doing, including his
complete ignoring of the facts, his persuasion perfection, and I
called him to be the landslide winner in the general
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election last year.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Scott was trying to warn Trump's detractors that the reality
TV star was a serious political figure not to be
taken lightly. By underestimating the real estate mogul, the media
was setting people up for widespread depression if he won,
depression the likes of which the country had never seen before.
But Bill Maher and the Hollywood set just didn't or
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couldn't understand what he was saying.
Speaker 10 (22:38):
He also seems to be a master of branding.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Hillary Clinton, commonly referred to as Crooked.
Speaker 10 (22:44):
Hillary, Crooked Hillary, Crazy Bernie. I mean, this is like
sixth grade level stuff. But that's so wrong, No, so wrong.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
These are not random insults. He's working on a confirmation bias.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Lion ted I call him Lion Teddy holds up the Bible.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
And then he puts it down and he lies. Okay,
that is the best persuasion you'll ever see. He's accused
of being sort of the least scientific person, you know,
the least based on reason, but he's probably the only
one who's using the science of persuasion in all the
ways that it can be used.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Scott was not really critiquing the factual nature of Trump's
comments or his policy prescriptions for America. He was focused
on his skill as a persuader. But many from the
mainstream media were again taking him out of context, because
you see, when Scott started talking about Trump, he wasn't
necessarily supporting Trump. He was simply analyzing his technique, ultimately
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coming to the conclusion that Trump was going to win
based on his skill in persuasion. The mainstream media was
missing that nuance so much so that Scott had to
open many media interviews clarifying his position.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
First of all, let me start out by disavowing Donald
Trump and everybody else. I'd like to disavow everybody before.
My politics don't align with him or with anybody else.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
In the race up to the election, Scott had become
a hot commodity, and it was clear that his insight
could easily translate to video commentary.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Man, I'm glad you're not a cable news panic, because
you would displace us very quickly.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
It was in the final months of the election cycle
that a social media tool started to get hot.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I just saw this tool called periscope.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Periscope was a video streaming tool owned by Twitter where.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You could just hold your phone in front of you
and suddenly, if anybody cared, they could be talking to you.
Good morning, Good morning, good morning. How's everybody doing this morning?
It's time for coffee. And I do a lot of
ab testing in my life, which is, I don't know
if this is a good idea. I'll just see what happens,
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and you know, i'll put my own energy into testing something.
But then I have a rule that after I've given
it a you know, good test, it's got to bring
the energy to me. I've got to wake up thinking, oh,
I want to do that thing again. And so I
tried it, and I think I had sixteen people randomly
noticed I was online and talked to me just through
my phone, and I thought, I'll do that again, and
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I liked it, and the audience numbers kept sort of
inching up. Wow, five hundred and fifty users. You know,
i'd have a couple hundred people, and I think, oh, well,
if a couple hundred people want to watch it, I'll
do it again tomorrow. And it just sort of it
just sort of grew because you know, the audience was
sort of pulling me, and they were informing me what
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they liked, and they'd say, well, your sound is not good,
and I think, okay, well experiment with some microphones and
went to an iPad. Now I've got curtains here and
I've got professional lighting, and I just sort of incrementally said, well,
you know, if the audience thinks my lighting is bad,
I'll try this light. And it took a lot of
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experiment to get it the way I wanted, but I
kept plugging.
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election night twenty sixteen, Scott was using periscope daily.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Hey everybody, anything interesting happening tonight? Oh oh there's an election.
Totally forgot about that. I know we're getting real close.
Is everybody looking at the New York Times page. They've
got this great interactive visualization New York Times. Check it out.
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They've got Trump's odds as of right now PINNEDEBT over
ninety five percent chance of winning.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
You're a big Hillary Clinton supporter. How are you feeling?
Speaker 13 (27:54):
Can you speak of having a little bit of a
panic attack. We were sitting there watching these numbers roll in,
and I'll tell you, the reality of a Trump presidency
had not actually set in. I had not let myself
think about what that would mean.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Just as Scott Adam's daily periscope videos were drawing thousands
of viewers, the man he predicted to win shocked the world.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Thank you very much, yell, sorry to keep you waiting.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Complicated, business, complicated.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
I've just received a call from Secretary Clinton.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
She congratulated us.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
It's about us on our victory.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But even in the jubilation of the moment, Scott could
see that trouble was coming.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Since I have a lot of people on here and
a lot of people watching, let me you remind all
of you that a little bit of silent gloating, a
little bit of low level celebration, maybe inside your house,
among your family members. That's appropriate. You know, you worked hard,
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probably you got what you wanted. But I think it
would be a big mistake to take your gloating into
the street. Don't take it to work. Time to take
the bumper sticker off your car. Things could get dangerous tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
In the wake of Trump's election, many of his liberal
friends disowned Scott Adams. His speaking engagements dried up, the
Dilbert live action movie faded away, and many of the
newspapers that had been carrying Dilbert for decades became sour
on his comic strip. Because you see, the entire Democrat
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media complex thought Trump was a laughing stock. They never
imagined that he could win. When America chose the New
York City real estate mogul to be its new president,
this same DC media establishment began looking for people to blame,
and the comic strip icon was high.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
On their list.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Scott Adams was one of the few pop culture figures
that thought Trump could win. He didn't have animosity for
the candidate, and by election night he appeared to be
rooting for him and his followers. Scott made it acceptable
to like Trump, and in the eyes of the establishment,
that was the biggest crime of all. It wasn't long
until they came after Trump's so called enablers, and they
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wanted to take everything from them, even from the man
that it entertained America for over a quarter century.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Coming up on Red Pilled America.
Speaker 12 (30:51):
Newspapers across the country are dropping Dilbert. This morning, another
newspaper is dropping the popular comic strip Dilbert. The Star
Tribune in Minneapolis has joined the Los Angeles Times, Washington Post,
and USA Today no longer printing the cartoon poking fun
and office culture.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Kanye West has been retweeting Scott Adams watching Scott Adams video.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
So something happened today that was a very big deal
in my life because it opened the door for me
to tell you the next thing I'm going to tell you,
and it was that there was a podcast by Red
Pilled America.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Red Pilled America is an iHeartRadio original podcast. It's owned
and produced by Patrick Carrelci and me Adrianna Cortez for
Informed Ventures.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
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