July 6, 2024 • 35 mins
Ron starts this episode with Tom talking about a 57 Olds Starfire 98 and then Ron talking about Big Daddy Don Garlits, drag racer, and his experience with “Swamp Rat” his drag racer : answers an email from Walt in Hawaii with a vehicle that keeps stalling with a possible immobilizer fault : takes a call on a 10 Escape where the caller is looking for parts : talks to Cailee French of NHOU of Maine regarding oil undercoating's.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ron An Aian.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Now it was just so at this moment that my
illustrious chief engineers showed up for service on his four
hundred thousand miles four escape. So Danny, I and Tom,
three of us, we just we stopped the shop. You
saw three guys with no ego. No I can do
this better than you know. Hey, you know this is boring.
Everybody dived in head first and got created. How are
(00:24):
we going to do this? How are we going to
fix this tail in it? Thank god? There cars giving
the Car Doctor. The car overheats and how long.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Well it doesn't overheat with the fan on, but it
goes to operating temperature before you're out of the parking lot.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Welcome to the radio home of ron Anium the Car Doctor.
Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the
world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.
If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up
the phone and call in The garage doors.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Par opened, but I am here to take your call
at eight five five five six ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Hundred and now he.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Running.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
I thought I'd all right.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Let that let the dust settle. By the way, I
should point out the tillet on the hot rod works
really good now, Tom, it's nice and crisp and clean,
and yeah, that's good. That's good.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So hey, you know, the last hour we had the
guy with the fifty seven Chevy bel Air. That reminds
me of well when I when I was in high school,
I had an aunt down in New York who had
the Ozeville equivalent, which was the Starfire ninety eight. Didn't
have the fin design in the back. It was round
her great and my my father, my uncle Stanley, and
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I drove down there because she didn't you know, she
didn't want it anymore. It was parked, her husband had died,
and we picked it up and we changed the battery
and we changed the oil and we got the things started.
And then Uncle Stanley followed us as we drove it
back to Connecticut. And boy, I was sitting there salivating, saying, boy,
I just because it was in perfect condition.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
It was par Oh.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, I was hitting there, going, boy, I can't wait.
Only get my driver's license next year so I can
take this to school. And then my mother did something
to get my aunt mad at her, and she took
the car back and it was like, oh man.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I would have taken the rear end out of that
car that had a that what year was it? A
fifty seven? Fifty seven? Yeah, a fifty seven Olds rear.
A fifty seven Olds rear as a pose was the
pre eminent rear end for for hot rods and dregsters
all throughout the all throughout the sixties. It's everybody wanted
a fifty seven Olds. Oh yeah, fifty seven through sixty
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four Olds mobile rear at fifty sixty three, uh, sixty four,
I think it changed, but that was a bulletproof rear axle.
You could not break that rear end. Lots of lots
of high horsepower applications, you know. I realized how important
that rear end was. Now you triggered a story. I'm
gonna you. I triggered a story in you. You triggered
(03:02):
a story in me. It's gotta be. Let's see. My
friend Richie is gone since twoenty twelve, and we went
to the track the year before, so it must have
been twenty ten or twenty eleven. And I sat in
and Don Garlets was there, right, Don Garlets from from Florida,
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the big drag racer, Big Daddy Don Garlets, and he
had swamp Rat two or whatever he called it, his
dragster from the early sixties and I sat in it.
Now those guys with the engines up in front. Now,
Don Garlets, I should point out, you know, Don Garlets.
There's a lot of stories about you know, Big Daddy
Don Garlets and what he contributed to racing. It's it's
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if you're in the industry, if you're in the sport,
you know who he is and you know what he did.
He was the Derek Jeter. He was the Mickey Mantle
of the of drag racing, you know, in the in
the fifties, sixties, seventies and so on. But you know,
he was the guy that when he was driving a
front engine dragster, he used to call them rails right
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the engine sat in the front. That one day the
clutch blew and took out half his foot and he
was laying in the hospital recovering. He designed. He's the
guy that designed the rear engine dragster that you see today.
Were the engines in the back of the driver. He
went to the track and I can't remember the exact year,
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and I'm not going to even try to but late
sixties or early seventies, he went to the track with
a rear engine dragster and everybody laughed at him and
he cleaned everybody's clock. By the end of the year,
you couldn't give away a front engine dragster because they
were worthless. They just just nobody drove them. But regardless.
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We went to Island Dragway here in Jersey, ty ten,
twenty eleven and they had Don Garlets in as the
guest lecturer or the guest you know, he was making appearance,
the celebrity appearance. And I got to sit and swamp rat.
You're sitting on the rear end. Now, I've got to
tell you. I looked down at that and I thought about,
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you know, as a man, what I'm sitting on and
near and you'd think if that rear end explodes, men
talk about risking at all, you know, it's never mind
not having kids, You're done, it's over. It's it's like,
what a dangerous thing. But it was. It was an
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old rear. That rear was a fifty seven old drear.
You could tell by looking at it by the numbers
that were on it.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, So that that your your your aunt's car had
some really valuable parts in it that uh, you know,
but you know. And that's why I think they called
them rails, because it was like you were sitting on
a rail, like you got run out of town on
a rail. Back in the Old West, it was you
got run out of town on a rail. You sat
on a rail. It was neither here nor there. I'm
(06:02):
want to talk about Walt in Hawaii. Walt sent me
an email, because I want to start with emails. This
section Tommy got me sidetracked. Walt Wroteman to me two
thousand and one Tundra four point seven liters V eight
vehicle quit running while driving, pulled over, a vehicle, restarted,
ran about a minute, shut off, would not restart. It
sat overnight, started, idled, It'll rev up, It'll move maybe
ten feet. Stalls won't restart. He sprayed started fluid into
(06:25):
the throttle body, no start coil has spark replaced the
crank sensor. Stalled started after a few minutes, will not restart?
What now, Walt Mawi Walter? Oh, and he says, no
check engine light, no codes? Walter? Did you scan codes?
All modules? All right? So I'm gonna talk to Walt
like he's here, all right? Did he scan codes all modules, Walt?
Because if this is sitting in a mobilizer fault, you
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won't see that No BD two. You may not see
that no BD two, and you would never know. So
if this has a mobilizer, which it should, that will
keep the vehicle from running. That's number one. You can
try resolving that. If that's what you're suspicious of, any
different keys, Try a different key and see what that does,
all right? Number two? Number three, there should be an
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anti theft flight in the middle of the dashboard. I
believe it was shaped like a vehicle. Is that flashing?
Is that on red showing that a mobilizer event is occurring?
Once we get past it's not a mobilizer all right?
Then I want to know do we have injector pulse?
Do we have power? You have spark? All right? The
fact that you have spark tells me that the crank
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sensor is working. All right. Did we look at this
with a scan tool? If we turn the keon, obviously
it won't start. Just turn the keyon to power up
the scan tool. And here I don't care here I
would prefer OBD two. What are some of the vital signs.
Where's cool and temp? Where's intake air temp? What does
mass airflow sensor reading say? All right, this is Hawaii,
(07:50):
lots of bugs. I would try unplugging the mass airflow
sensor and seeing if the car starts. I've seen things
crawl up in there, and spiders build webs and all
sorts of ugly things and cause this exact same scenario
with the vehicle runs without the mass airflow sensor connected.
Or more importantly, there's a four point seven liter V
eight keon engine off because it doesn't run keon engine off.
(08:12):
What does the mass airflow sensor show Graham's per second
GPS sitting there going nowhere, you should read four point
five to five ozho something like that. If you're seeing
seven eight, if you're seeing two three. We've got some
sort of a mass airflow sensor problem. And I want
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to take a look into that. And by all means,
just because you sprayed starter fluid and it started, I
don't know if I want to convince myself that that's
not a fuel pump fuel pressure problem. I'd still love
to see a fuel pressure gauge go on this vehicle,
just so I can take it off the list again.
We're back to tell me what's bad, I'll tell you
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what's good, and vice versa. So you know that's what
we're kind of chasing here, Walter, So do that and
then call in Walt. I'd love to talk to you
about this on air. It's hard to write individual emails
these days, but you know, I still love you real quick.
Down around the bottom of the hour, we're going to
be joined by I should point this out. I've got
notes here somewhere. I believe it's Kylie French. She is
(09:14):
from NHOU of Maine, and you know, it's a funny
thing we were we were talking about this, you know,
undercoding vehicles and protecting vehicles and using NHO you protective oil,
and it came out that summer, the warm months are
actually the busy time of the year for the NHOU franchisees.
And Kylie is going to be here to talk about
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that a little bit. And it's kind of an interesting
answer as to why. Probably not what you're thinking, but
you got to tune in to hear it. And we'll
be covering a bunch of other things during the course
of our conversation as well, so that's down around the
bottom of the hour, but we are here for your
phone calls at eight five five five six ninety nine hundred.
I'm ronnin Andy and the car doctor. All return right
after this. Don't go away a vehicle not taking you
(10:03):
where you want to go, Well call Ron.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
He's the expert at making your vehicle take you where
you need it. Eight five five five six zero nine
nine zero zero And now back to Ron.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Hey, let's get over and talk to Oh, let's go
to Michael and Virginia Michael twenty ten four to escape
and some water pump questions. Welcome aboard, sir, How can
I help?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (10:21):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'm good?
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Not really, some war pump questions more so than just
parts questions. Okay, you know I've had this car a
better part of thirteen years now and done all the maintenance.
I'm quite you know, as prescribed. And he scared me
a couple of weeks or so ago, about two thousand
and nine forwards and parts not being available.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
I love this vehicle. It's been great, It's in great shape,
and I want to keep it at least another twelve
years any longer. Are there any parts that I should
be looking for everything.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You know, starts locking up. Brother, Yeah, it's you know,
it's it's I would you know, do you have a
local AutoZone?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, yeah, I would. I would go down. I would
go down and talk to them and say, hey, I've
got a twenty ten FOURD escape. What do you got
the three leader, the V six okay, and tell them
you know, listen, yeah, I want to keep this thing
another eight nine years? Can you tell me? Can you?
I believe they have the ability to do a you know,
plug that in and what parts are selling, what are
(11:31):
they using the most of so you know, I'm sure
it's going to be the standard stuff. Water pump, starter, alternator,
all good things to have on the shelf because it'll
be good quality, which you can get in durast, getting
duralst obviously, belts and hoses all right, thermostat. I wouldn't
keep fluids because fluids can separate over time, older fluids.
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We don't want to do that, you know. Obviously, basic ignition,
tune up parts, spark plugs, oils, wires, et cetera. You know,
you could keep some filters on hand. Filters don't go
bad from sitting all right, and at least you know
from what's on. Yeah, there'll be good stuff breaks, right,
you know, we want to want to put some brake
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parts on the shelf, pads, roders, calipers. Is it a
rear drum car or a rear disc car, rear drum
the drums will the drums will yeah, yeah, the real,
the real Yeah, the rear drum breaks will outlast you, me,
Tom and this radio show.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You never put rear brakes on an escape. I don't
know why they work. It's it's not a question of
do they work, they just they just last forever. Man,
It's just crazy. You know, I would, I would look
at are you the only one that gets you know,
that really drives the car? Michael? You drive a long one?
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Okay, I don't drive, you know, well, you think about
you know, I start thinking about who sits in seat
and what window goes up and down the most.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Although windows don't windows don't go up and down a
lot anymore because we have easy pass. So we have
easy pass and air conditioning. And if you're using that
then but you know, it wouldn't hurt the Maybe put
a power window regulator on the shelf at the house,
you know, yeah, you know, because it's I'm telling you
I have Yeah, I have power window regulators for the
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suburban on the shelf, just sitting there. I don't care
the mere fact that I have them. They'll never go
ben and I'll never have to use them. I'll never
have to install them. I'll sell them up on eBay
in ten years when I've done with the vehicle. Right, yeap,
a good quality wiper blade. You know, I'm seeing wiper
blades disappear. It's getting hard to get wiper blades. It's crazy,
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you do, Yeah, but you want something of good quality now,
wiper blades. I'm going to tell you. You know, you
want to store that in a low heat you know
area you want to start you know, like you want
to keep that in a cooler draw area of the house.
So it's not they're not, you know, baked all the time,
all right, but.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
My nails and stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, you know, wiper blades are a good thing, you know.
I think about like, I have ignition locked cylinders for
the suburban, so you know, yeah, well, you know, all
this stuff is going to disappear. It is disappearing, you know,
Like I said, I would go down I would go
down to your local AutoZone. Here's what I want to do.
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Can you tell me what the top twenty parts are
that you sell for a twenty ten FOD escape because
maybe I'm forgetting something, you know, because they can they
should be able to look it up by vehicle and
application commonly sold parts. I know our catalogs here in
New Jersey, or electronic catalogs will do that. They'll tell
me if I if I go in for a certain car,
they'll tell me what the top ten repairs are in
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Northeast Jersey for that particular vehicle. And see, that's what's important.
I think the electronic cataloging that the parts houses are
using that AutoZone uses they can reference for that part
of the country. Like in Florida, they're probably selling a
lot of condensers in ac compressors, you know, in the
north after spring, they're probably selling a lot of shock
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absorbers in California. You know what I'm saying, because it
varies by region, you know, and that's vehicles are subject
to well they fail by product of their environment. So
you know that's but that's how I would do it.
It's not It's not blue, is it the car.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
No, it's black. Oh okay, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, Tom's drooling. My engineer, Tom had he had one
with I don't know, two hundred and fifty thousand miles
on it, and he was a good dad. He gave
it to his daughter to drive for a while, and
you know, then he got his fifteen, which now has
four hundred thousand miles on it. We're going to have
we're going to send it to the Smithsonian. We're actually
(15:53):
we're going to sell it back to Ford. Ford's gonna
want to know what they did wrong that one would
last that long. So, you know, we don't want to
do this again. My god, we got to get them
to buy another car. So but but you know, that's
that's that's how I would approach it. And you know,
as as goofy as it sounds, you might want to
put a set of tires somewhere, But tires are hard because.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
You know, I got fourteens on my eighty seven fifty
and it's like, you know, right.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, trying to find trying to find fourteen inch tires today,
trying to find fifteen inch tires today is a project.
But you know, tires are hard. You can't put tires.
You can't keep rubber lying around. You're into that, you know,
dry rot and cracking and and failing thing. So yeah,
just just some challenges there. So all right, I'll tell you.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
About the regulator that that gave me a whole new thought.
That's right there.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You know how many miles and how many miles are
on it, how many miles are on Yeah, put a
fuel put a fuel pump on the shelf.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
You know, put uh oh yeah, because I've done I've
done lark pump, I've done the starter ru yep.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, put a fuel pump on the shelf, and maybe
get eight thing. Yeah, maybe get a fuel pump relay,
you know, and keep that on the shelf. You know,
the goofy things, the things that you don't think about,
you know. And just and remember, filters don't go bad.
Ignition parts don't go bad. And by the mere fact
that you have them, they probably won't go bad. So
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you know, it just it just become no. But you're
not allowed. Listen and you tell your wife I said this,
You're not allowed to buy another twenty ten Escape for
a parts vehicle because I've heard those stories. I just
want to buy one. I want to have a sit
here so I can pick parts off, although I've thought
of that myself, right, Well, yeah, you don't. You know,
there's a limit, So I gotta go, Michael, But get
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down to your local atos hole.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
And they'd be glad to help you out.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
You're very welcome, sir. You have a good rest of
the weekend. Thank you very much. Yeah, parts vehicles, right,
we all need one. We all need a spare parts vehicle.
Although I'm still looking for that other seventy two money, Carlo,
there's any out there, I'm ronning any in the car doctor. Hey,
coming up next, Kylie French, Nhou of Maine and everything
you wanted to know about undercoding. I'm sorry, Nhou oil application.
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I apologize. Right after this, we'll be back.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Don't go away, look.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Back, listeners, ron An Anie in the car doctor. You
know it's it's warm weather and it's probably not the
time to be thinking about this, or is it okay?
Taking care of your vehicles underside the undercoding area, the
part that we worry about when winter will come back.
It will come back. I know it's hard to believe
this time of year, but we will be cold again
soon and we have to think about getting the vehicle
ready for it well. Winter driving and just taking care
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of it year round is a good option as well,
because weather comes in all shapes and sizes, especially in
the last couple of years. So we reached We've reached
out to Kaylee French. She is the Nhou Mobile franchise
up there in Belgrade, Maine. We thought we would go
as far north in America as we could, and we're
here talking and chatting today with Kaylee. Thanks for joining
us today, Hey.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Ron, I appreciate it. You are right. Winter's right around
the corner, and it's actually best to think about undercoating
in the summer. Our product actually works well with the heat.
It makes your money go a little bit further, and
the product works a little bit more for you when
it's warmer out. So it's a great time to start
thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Let's start there. Why is that it works better in
the warm weather.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
So our product is meant to creep, so it's meant
to work for you as soon as it's applied to
the frame. So one quarter sized amount of our oil
undercoating is going to creep up to seven inches. That
just happens faster, more efficiently when it's warmer. If you
think about oil, it's going to stay liquid, it's going
to stay wet, and as soon as it's warm, when
it the frame itself is warm, it's going to spread
a little bit further. Still going to work when it's colder,
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just works a little more efficiently when it's warmer.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Kaylie, What do you say to the person that goes, well,
I listen, I just bought a brand new vehicle, and
you know everything is galvanized and protected, and you know
there's it's anti rust this and anti rust that, and
you know I shouldn't have to put any sort of
undercoating on a fifty or sixty thousand dollars vehicle. How
many times do you answer that question in the course
of a week.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Quite frequently, And I would say, manufacturers want you to
keep coming back to buy a new vehicle, and they've
got to give you a reason to do that, and
it's impossible for them to guarantee no rust will be
on your vehicle. Rust will really attack anything anything that's metal,
anything that's aluminum. It's going to go towards there's wire
harnesses in there that are going to be vulnerable because
they're now using soy wiring components. Our undercoating is going
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to help with that as well, because mice get in
there and that's you know, soy is. They're attractive, that's
what they want. So it's the protect against rust because
Maine is just so brutal as far as many New
England states with the salt roadbrin that they do use,
so there's really no way around it. They can't get everything.
When they're manufacturing a vehicle. There's you know, rust that
gets into the wire harnesses, it gets into the folds
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where they do all their weld jobs. It gets into
the parts that you can't see and don't even know
where they are. So it's really I know, we spend
a lot on these vehicles, but that's why it's beneficial
to spend just a little bit more to keep them safe,
keep them safe against all the rest.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And it does. I mean, and Maine, you know, you
guys are nationally known as a very corrosive state, right.
I still remember we were talking before we went on
here here today about the bridge and Bath Maine that
that had corroded and rotted away. I think it was
ten twelve years ago because of all the corrosive that's
put on the road. It actually rotted a steel bridge
off its foundation, and yeah, you know that's that's like, wow,
(21:51):
that's quite an achievement, you know, all in the interest
of just trying to keep the roads clear. And you know,
in this in this day and age of four wheel drive,
all wheeled drive up the side of a building vehicles,
I question, you know, are we using too much corrosion?
So people are too much corrosive anti corrosive material. You know,
people need to undercoat their vehicles. Is it is it
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becoming a maintenance item now.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Kayley, Honestly, it should be looked as such. There are
different variations of undercoating that you can do, but an
annual application really kind of is a good maintenance item
to consider. There's no reason that it shouldn't be just
factored in. It's costs less than most people's car payments,
so when you look at it that way, it's really
adding a lot of value to the vehicle and it's
going to keep it on the road a lot longer.
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And people, you know, people do oil changes, they check
for all of their fluids on the daily. They replace
ball joints when those you know, start going. So this
should be considered just.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
As that, why don't I want to take you know what?
Why nho you? You know? What makes you guys different
than either other undercoatings? Or why can't I just put
used oil in a spray gun and just spray it
on the underside of my car? Isn't that the same thing?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Well, that's illegal to start you don't want to use
used motor oil. That's not going to get you very far,
but anyto you In New Hampshire oil undercoating. The undercoating
itself does really get set apart from other undercoatings. The
reason for that being is it can't be broken. A
lot of undercoatings that are advertised are solid. They harden
up to the frame and they form what seems to
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be a barrier, but that's going to get chipped, it's
going to get cracked, and at that point you're really
kind of being counterproductive because moisture can still get up there.
Our product stays fluid, so by that it doesn't just
harden up and stop working for you. It stays fluid
and continues to work for you because it heals back over.
So with that being said, if you're looking at a
paint job and you scratch it, you're going to see
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a white canvas again on that scratch mark. But our
product is going to keep creeping, so it's going to
keep healing over itself. And when it heals back over,
it's really just putting that shield back up against rust.
So that's one of the great benefits is it actually
penetrates the metal so it can keep doing that. The
oil itself is also you know, self healing, so it
displaces moisture and removes oxygen. So when you take those
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out of the equation, oxidization can occur, so you're really
removing the possibility of rust right there.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Well, and that's what because and that's what creates rust, correct,
you know, it's it's a combination of things. I say
this all the time. You ever go down and you'll see,
you know, television or movies where they've got shipwrecks down
at the bottom of the ocean, and if they're far
enough down, they're not rusted because there's no oxygen in
the water and it'll sit under the water. So it's
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not necessarily water that makes something rust. It's got to
be water oxygen, it's got to be the right combination
of things and what NHO you does. You touched on
it for a second there about the barrier, right, That
barrier that NHO You creates is key to protecting a vehicle, right.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Right, So when I mentioned that, it penetrates the metal.
So if you picture it in your head and you
think of a dry slate and then you drop some water,
say even a paper towel, it's a good analogy. If
you put a drop on a paper towel, it spreads
right out and you can kind of see it penetrating.
And then our product is going to cont tinue to
do that so it can continue working, continue creeping throughout
and then it can you know, get anywhere. At that point,
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our product gets to base metal that you can't see
it gets. It gets everywhere throughout the vehicle, all of
the fold all of the you know, channeling underneath the vehicle, rockers,
cab corners, things that you can't readily see just by
looking at it. Even if we spray in that general area,
it's it's going to get there. So by kind of
forming that barrier, it's blocking out rest.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Now NHO you product, we'll talk about that specifically versus
the other guy you know, it has to be reapplied
at certain time intervals or does it? How does that work?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Yeah, So the base, our traditional oil undercoding product does
have to be applied annually. The reason for that being is,
you know, it's always getting attacked by salt roadbrind so
we do like an annual application on there, especially in
Maine where the conditions are what they are. However, we
do have a newer product that's gone through rigorous testing
(26:00):
and it kind of mimics our traditional oil undercoating in
the way that it does remain fluid, So that one's
called a hybrid, and it's kind of hybrid because it's
a lot like our traditional product, but it is a
little it's just set apart just a little bit. And
the reason for that being is because it's looked at
as a permanent coating, but not permanent in the sense
of the other ones that are going to harden, crack
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all the things that we don't want on an undercoating.
Our hybrid product does remain fluid like our traditional oil
undercoating does, but it does kind of you know, peer
up for you. It's a semi solid hermatic steel on
that one. So that way you're still getting the creeping capabilities,
so you're still getting that maximum protection, but it's more
drip free. And if you start early, like that brand
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new sixty thousand dollars truck we were talking about, if
you start well the vehicle's new, you can actually get
that product to be lifetime warranted on your vehicle. So
at that point, we do touch ups every couple of
years to make sure we're getting in the channels like
we need to. All the places you can't see that
we've talked about. We want to make sure we're touching
those up because you can't you can't keep us out
of there forever if you don't keep taking a peek
and making sure you're reapplying. But the actual undercoating itself
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of that hybrid will be warrantied to last for the
life of the vehicle, assuming you keep up with your checkup.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You know, I never knew undercoating could have so many
aspects to it. You know, I've seen the hybrid. We've
worked a little bit with the hybrid in the shop,
and it's neat for everybody out there that may not
be able to visualize it and tell me yes or no. Okay,
Lee is. It's kind of like that hard shell chocolate
on top of that soft vanilla ice cream cone. It's
like it's got that rigidness to it, but it's got
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flexibility also that it'll adhere to the body and flex
with the body as the vehicle goes down the road.
And it looks great even after it's being used for
a while. It doesn't disappear as fast.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's true. It's true, and it's honestly. It's a matte
finish too, which is nice. Our black undercoating is a glossy.
Some people like glossy, some people like matt. The hybrid
is a matte finish because it is kind of curing
just to touch there, like that hardshell you mentioned, but
it's not hard in the sense it'll be cracked. So
it's important to note that because once you have a
shell that does crack, like a lot of those permanent
(28:03):
undercoatings out there, your vehicle's just as vulnerable as it
was before. And you know, rocks do fling up as
you're driving down the road, especially in me and we
have dirt roads everywhere. Oh yeah, you want to keep
that in mind. For sure.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Main's a tough environment. Hey, Kaylee, can you stick around,
Let me pull over and take a pause. When we
come back, I want to talk to you a little
bit about well, I want to know about car washes
and undercoating products, and then I want to talk about
my favorite product. You guys have mouse Out. I love
mouse Out. Mouse Out's great, you know. To me, that's
the best thing about all of this because I can
protect my car and keep pritters away, which caused so
(28:34):
much problem. So stay put. We're talking with Kaylee French
of New Hampshire Oil Undercoating of Maine. I'm ronnin Any
and the car Doctor. We'll both be back right after this.
(28:55):
We're back and we're talking today with Kylie French of
New Hampshire Oil Undercoat of Maine. Kylie, when we pulled away,
the questions were about car wash taking your vehicle as
after it's been undercoated and prepped. You know, do car
washes hurt it? What does a car wash do? And
then regards to you know, car washes takeoff salt and
(29:16):
corrosives anyway, So why do I need to undercoat my
vehicle in the first place?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yeah, so undercoating aside, we really don't recommend undercarriage car washes,
you can still go through the car wash, but that
undercarriage package is really what does the damage. So many
car washes are using recycled water because they have to.
They don't have an endless supply of clean water, but
they can't eliminate all of the corrosive solutions that they
washed off the person before use vehicle. So you combine
that with the fact that it's high pressure water and
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it's pushing up into the undercarriage of your vehicle. It's
getting in every nook and cranny, and it's getting where water,
let alone, salt brine was never intended to be, so
it's very counterproductive. But our product itself, once it's undercoated,
it penetrates that base metal. So even if water hits
it in some wipes the way, it's already penetrated. So
it's there. But we still recommend just to let the
product do its job. You don't need to wash it off.
(30:03):
If there's salts on top of the oil, the product's
going to work for you. It's going to keep working
for itself, and just yeah, just let it be, let it,
let it protect your vehicle.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
We're back to that barrier thing right that we talked
about before, that that barrier. Once it's there, it's there.
So let's go to my favorite product that any jou has.
I mean, I like them well, but this one just
puts a smile on my face. Mouse Out. Tell everybody
what mouse Out's all about.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, So mouse out is the name. It keeps the
mice out. And you don't think it's really a necessary thing,
but a lot of vehicles and main a lot of
people have land field mice. They're everywhere. And our wire
harnesses I think I touched on that before, but a
lot of manufacturers have switched to soy, which is environmentally friendly,
but it also attracts the mice. So that wire harness
is their key components to any vehicle, especially the newer ones,
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because the wiring does so much. It keeps everything on
one bad wire. One teed wire can cause you havoc
and send you to the dealership so fast. Troubleshooting is expensive.
But our mouse out product actually has peppermint oil and
a predator scent in it, so you can't detect it.
Humans can't detect it, but it deters rodents in four ways,
the sense, the taste, the touch, and the predatory fear
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that's in the product itself, so mice smell it and
they literally run the other direction. They've seen it in
testing happen and it's ninety two percent effective to keeping
mice out of vehicles, which is incredible.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And you can put a little bit of the mouse
out under the hood and key areas too correct and
that if something gets under the hood, it's going to
be pushed out as well.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
We put the mouse out everywhere that's hidden because mice
they have to find, they have to have a path
to travel, so we don't just put it in where
they like to hang out. We put it on the
path that they use to get there as well, so
we don't even give them a chance to get up there.
And you know, cause cause havoc under there.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
It makes sense, makes sense, Kylie. I want to thank you.
I've had a I've learned a lot. I love learning
about undercoating, especially NHOU because it's a fascinating product and
I just the more we learn about it, the more
we really enjoy it. And we see it in the
shop now and it's doing quite a great job. You
guys are really hard at it and doing some wonderful things.
If the listeners want more information, I mean, first of all,
(32:06):
in our last minute, you know you're in Maine. Do
you cover the state of Maine. You're mobile, right.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
We are, so anyhow you of Maine. We travel the
entire state of Maine, and we're fully mobile, so we
come right to you. You don't have to sit around
in the shop. We'll come to your house, we'll come
to your work, we'll come to your barbecue, and undercote
everybody's vehicle. It takes about an hour to be done
for one vehicle, but we've done at least ten a day.
So yeah, if you're in Maine, check us out. We
have a Facebook page or a website NHO. You have Maine,
(32:32):
you're welcome to give us a call two zero seven
six two zero six eight five nine two zero seven
six two zero six eight five nine and yeah, we're
happy to answer any questions. Get you on the books.
Our books do fill up quite fast, but we do
have openings for the season still and then if you're
not in Maine, but maybe close check us out. We
also have a shop in Chichester, New Hampshire, and you
can go there. Nhoil undercoding dot com to find another location.
(32:56):
There might be one closer to.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You, perfect, Kylie. I want to thank you. You have a
great rest of the day, and you keep undercoat and
kiddo and my best everybody. You're very welcome. You'd be well.
I'm Ronning Ay and the car doctor. We are back
right after this.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Don't go away, and I want to thank Kylie for
taking the time.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
You know, it's it's summer, right, But the whole point
of that was this is the perfect time to be
doing vehicle undercoating and oil protect oil protecting like that
because it will spread farther in the warm weather. And
warm weather it's a good time to go cruising and
going for rides in the car. And whether it's a
hot rod or whether it's a new car, whatever the
case might be. Speaking of which Russell writes in from
(33:47):
North Carolina. Hey, Ron, I haven't heard you talk about
the hot rot a lot this year. Are you driving it?
And I was just curious you never mentioned do you
have problems getting fuel for it? What do you put
in the tank? Russ? And Russ says he owns a
nineteen eighty one Malibu Wagon as a dragster. It's got
to be kind of crazy, right, that's the fastest grocery
getter six seconds they get a quart of milk. Shell
(34:09):
V Power UH is my gasoline of choice, Russ when
I you know when I when I'm out and about
shell V pyr nitro is a shell V pot Take two.
Shell V Power nitro plus premium gasoline is the fuel
of choice. And I'll tell you why. They've really done
their homework in the last couple of years and they've
(34:30):
now got one of the best detergent fuels on the market.
They've got some great stuff on their website. If you
go to shell V Power nitro plus premium gasoline from
the Shell website and it talks about the the characteristics
of it and what it does. Mostly I'm concerned about well,
I'm concerned about all of it, but you know their
(34:50):
work for carbon deposits and corrosion from moisture. Shelvy Power
nitro plus premium gasoline is one of the best out there,
if not be pad so by all means. But Shell's
the guests from me, I've run it on ninety three
octane all day long, never have any issues. The engine's
twelve years old now and I haven't taken them apart
having any problems with valve train or anything else though,
(35:12):
Shell V Power Plus Nitro I'm sorry, SHELLV Power Nitro Plus.
I'm running any in the car Doctor until the next time.
The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
See you
Ron An Aian.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Now it was just so at this moment that my
illustrious chief engineers showed up for service on his four
hundred thousand miles four escape. So Danny, I and Tom,
three of us, we just we stopped the shop. You
saw three guys with no ego. No I can do
this better than you know. Hey, you know this is boring.
Everybody dived in head first and got created. How are
(00:24):
we going to do this? How are we going to
fix this tail in it? Thank god? There cars giving
the Car Doctor. The car overheats and how long.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Well it doesn't overheat with the fan on, but it
goes to operating temperature before you're out of the parking lot.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Welcome to the radio home of ron Anium the Car Doctor.
Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the
world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.
If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up
the phone and call in The garage doors.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Par opened, but I am here to take your call
at eight five five five six ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Hundred and now he.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Running.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
I thought I'd all right.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Let that let the dust settle. By the way, I
should point out the tillet on the hot rod works
really good now, Tom, it's nice and crisp and clean,
and yeah, that's good. That's good.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So hey, you know, the last hour we had the
guy with the fifty seven Chevy bel Air. That reminds
me of well when I when I was in high school,
I had an aunt down in New York who had
the Ozeville equivalent, which was the Starfire ninety eight. Didn't
have the fin design in the back. It was round
her great and my my father, my uncle Stanley, and
(01:46):
I drove down there because she didn't you know, she
didn't want it anymore. It was parked, her husband had died,
and we picked it up and we changed the battery
and we changed the oil and we got the things started.
And then Uncle Stanley followed us as we drove it
back to Connecticut. And boy, I was sitting there salivating, saying, boy,
I just because it was in perfect condition.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
It was par Oh.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, I was hitting there, going, boy, I can't wait.
Only get my driver's license next year so I can
take this to school. And then my mother did something
to get my aunt mad at her, and she took
the car back and it was like, oh man.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I would have taken the rear end out of that
car that had a that what year was it? A
fifty seven? Fifty seven? Yeah, a fifty seven Olds rear.
A fifty seven Olds rear as a pose was the
pre eminent rear end for for hot rods and dregsters
all throughout the all throughout the sixties. It's everybody wanted
a fifty seven Olds. Oh yeah, fifty seven through sixty
(02:42):
four Olds mobile rear at fifty sixty three, uh, sixty four,
I think it changed, but that was a bulletproof rear axle.
You could not break that rear end. Lots of lots
of high horsepower applications, you know. I realized how important
that rear end was. Now you triggered a story. I'm
gonna you. I triggered a story in you. You triggered
(03:02):
a story in me. It's gotta be. Let's see. My
friend Richie is gone since twoenty twelve, and we went
to the track the year before, so it must have
been twenty ten or twenty eleven. And I sat in
and Don Garlets was there, right, Don Garlets from from Florida,
(03:24):
the big drag racer, Big Daddy Don Garlets, and he
had swamp Rat two or whatever he called it, his
dragster from the early sixties and I sat in it.
Now those guys with the engines up in front. Now,
Don Garlets, I should point out, you know, Don Garlets.
There's a lot of stories about you know, Big Daddy
Don Garlets and what he contributed to racing. It's it's
(03:46):
if you're in the industry, if you're in the sport,
you know who he is and you know what he did.
He was the Derek Jeter. He was the Mickey Mantle
of the of drag racing, you know, in the in
the fifties, sixties, seventies and so on. But you know,
he was the guy that when he was driving a
front engine dragster, he used to call them rails right
(04:06):
the engine sat in the front. That one day the
clutch blew and took out half his foot and he
was laying in the hospital recovering. He designed. He's the
guy that designed the rear engine dragster that you see today.
Were the engines in the back of the driver. He
went to the track and I can't remember the exact year,
(04:29):
and I'm not going to even try to but late
sixties or early seventies, he went to the track with
a rear engine dragster and everybody laughed at him and
he cleaned everybody's clock. By the end of the year,
you couldn't give away a front engine dragster because they
were worthless. They just just nobody drove them. But regardless.
(04:52):
We went to Island Dragway here in Jersey, ty ten,
twenty eleven and they had Don Garlets in as the
guest lecturer or the guest you know, he was making appearance,
the celebrity appearance. And I got to sit and swamp rat.
You're sitting on the rear end. Now, I've got to
tell you. I looked down at that and I thought about,
(05:13):
you know, as a man, what I'm sitting on and
near and you'd think if that rear end explodes, men
talk about risking at all, you know, it's never mind
not having kids, You're done, it's over. It's it's like,
what a dangerous thing. But it was. It was an
(05:34):
old rear. That rear was a fifty seven old drear.
You could tell by looking at it by the numbers
that were on it.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, So that that your your your aunt's car had
some really valuable parts in it that uh, you know,
but you know. And that's why I think they called
them rails, because it was like you were sitting on
a rail, like you got run out of town on
a rail. Back in the Old West, it was you
got run out of town on a rail. You sat
on a rail. It was neither here nor there. I'm
(06:02):
want to talk about Walt in Hawaii. Walt sent me
an email, because I want to start with emails. This
section Tommy got me sidetracked. Walt Wroteman to me two
thousand and one Tundra four point seven liters V eight
vehicle quit running while driving, pulled over, a vehicle, restarted,
ran about a minute, shut off, would not restart. It
sat overnight, started, idled, It'll rev up, It'll move maybe
ten feet. Stalls won't restart. He sprayed started fluid into
(06:25):
the throttle body, no start coil has spark replaced the
crank sensor. Stalled started after a few minutes, will not restart?
What now, Walt Mawi Walter? Oh, and he says, no
check engine light, no codes? Walter? Did you scan codes?
All modules? All right? So I'm gonna talk to Walt
like he's here, all right? Did he scan codes all modules, Walt?
Because if this is sitting in a mobilizer fault, you
(06:48):
won't see that No BD two. You may not see
that no BD two, and you would never know. So
if this has a mobilizer, which it should, that will
keep the vehicle from running. That's number one. You can
try resolving that. If that's what you're suspicious of, any
different keys, Try a different key and see what that does,
all right? Number two? Number three, there should be an
(07:08):
anti theft flight in the middle of the dashboard. I
believe it was shaped like a vehicle. Is that flashing?
Is that on red showing that a mobilizer event is occurring?
Once we get past it's not a mobilizer all right?
Then I want to know do we have injector pulse?
Do we have power? You have spark? All right? The
fact that you have spark tells me that the crank
(07:29):
sensor is working. All right. Did we look at this
with a scan tool? If we turn the keon, obviously
it won't start. Just turn the keyon to power up
the scan tool. And here I don't care here I
would prefer OBD two. What are some of the vital signs.
Where's cool and temp? Where's intake air temp? What does
mass airflow sensor reading say? All right, this is Hawaii,
(07:50):
lots of bugs. I would try unplugging the mass airflow
sensor and seeing if the car starts. I've seen things
crawl up in there, and spiders build webs and all
sorts of ugly things and cause this exact same scenario
with the vehicle runs without the mass airflow sensor connected.
Or more importantly, there's a four point seven liter V
eight keon engine off because it doesn't run keon engine off.
(08:12):
What does the mass airflow sensor show Graham's per second
GPS sitting there going nowhere, you should read four point
five to five ozho something like that. If you're seeing
seven eight, if you're seeing two three. We've got some
sort of a mass airflow sensor problem. And I want
(08:32):
to take a look into that. And by all means,
just because you sprayed starter fluid and it started, I
don't know if I want to convince myself that that's
not a fuel pump fuel pressure problem. I'd still love
to see a fuel pressure gauge go on this vehicle,
just so I can take it off the list again.
We're back to tell me what's bad, I'll tell you
(08:53):
what's good, and vice versa. So you know that's what
we're kind of chasing here, Walter, So do that and
then call in Walt. I'd love to talk to you
about this on air. It's hard to write individual emails
these days, but you know, I still love you real quick.
Down around the bottom of the hour, we're going to
be joined by I should point this out. I've got
notes here somewhere. I believe it's Kylie French. She is
(09:14):
from NHOU of Maine, and you know, it's a funny
thing we were we were talking about this, you know,
undercoding vehicles and protecting vehicles and using NHO you protective oil,
and it came out that summer, the warm months are
actually the busy time of the year for the NHOU franchisees.
And Kylie is going to be here to talk about
(09:36):
that a little bit. And it's kind of an interesting
answer as to why. Probably not what you're thinking, but
you got to tune in to hear it. And we'll
be covering a bunch of other things during the course
of our conversation as well, so that's down around the
bottom of the hour, but we are here for your
phone calls at eight five five five six ninety nine hundred.
I'm ronnin Andy and the car doctor. All return right
after this. Don't go away a vehicle not taking you
(10:03):
where you want to go, Well call Ron.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
He's the expert at making your vehicle take you where
you need it. Eight five five five six zero nine
nine zero zero And now back to Ron.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Hey, let's get over and talk to Oh, let's go
to Michael and Virginia Michael twenty ten four to escape
and some water pump questions. Welcome aboard, sir, How can
I help?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (10:21):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
I'm good?
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Not really, some war pump questions more so than just
parts questions. Okay, you know I've had this car a
better part of thirteen years now and done all the maintenance.
I'm quite you know, as prescribed. And he scared me
a couple of weeks or so ago, about two thousand
and nine forwards and parts not being available.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
I love this vehicle. It's been great, It's in great shape,
and I want to keep it at least another twelve
years any longer. Are there any parts that I should
be looking for everything.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You know, starts locking up. Brother, Yeah, it's you know,
it's it's I would you know, do you have a
local AutoZone?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, yeah, I would. I would go down. I would
go down and talk to them and say, hey, I've
got a twenty ten FOURD escape. What do you got
the three leader, the V six okay, and tell them
you know, listen, yeah, I want to keep this thing
another eight nine years? Can you tell me? Can you?
I believe they have the ability to do a you know,
plug that in and what parts are selling, what are
(11:31):
they using the most of so you know, I'm sure
it's going to be the standard stuff. Water pump, starter, alternator,
all good things to have on the shelf because it'll
be good quality, which you can get in durast, getting
duralst obviously, belts and hoses all right, thermostat. I wouldn't
keep fluids because fluids can separate over time, older fluids.
(11:53):
We don't want to do that, you know. Obviously, basic ignition,
tune up parts, spark plugs, oils, wires, et cetera. You know,
you could keep some filters on hand. Filters don't go
bad from sitting all right, and at least you know
from what's on. Yeah, there'll be good stuff breaks, right,
you know, we want to want to put some brake
(12:14):
parts on the shelf, pads, roders, calipers. Is it a
rear drum car or a rear disc car, rear drum
the drums will the drums will yeah, yeah, the real,
the real Yeah, the rear drum breaks will outlast you, me,
Tom and this radio show.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You never put rear brakes on an escape. I don't
know why they work. It's it's not a question of
do they work, they just they just last forever. Man,
It's just crazy. You know, I would, I would look
at are you the only one that gets you know,
that really drives the car? Michael? You drive a long one?
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Okay, I don't drive, you know, well, you think about
you know, I start thinking about who sits in seat
and what window goes up and down the most.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Although windows don't windows don't go up and down a
lot anymore because we have easy pass. So we have
easy pass and air conditioning. And if you're using that
then but you know, it wouldn't hurt the Maybe put
a power window regulator on the shelf at the house,
you know, yeah, you know, because it's I'm telling you
I have Yeah, I have power window regulators for the
(13:24):
suburban on the shelf, just sitting there. I don't care
the mere fact that I have them. They'll never go
ben and I'll never have to use them. I'll never
have to install them. I'll sell them up on eBay
in ten years when I've done with the vehicle. Right, yeap,
a good quality wiper blade. You know, I'm seeing wiper
blades disappear. It's getting hard to get wiper blades. It's crazy,
(13:47):
you do, Yeah, but you want something of good quality now,
wiper blades. I'm going to tell you. You know, you
want to store that in a low heat you know
area you want to start you know, like you want
to keep that in a cooler draw area of the house.
So it's not they're not, you know, baked all the time,
all right, but.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
My nails and stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, you know, wiper blades are a good thing, you know.
I think about like, I have ignition locked cylinders for
the suburban, so you know, yeah, well, you know, all
this stuff is going to disappear. It is disappearing, you know,
Like I said, I would go down I would go
down to your local AutoZone. Here's what I want to do.
(14:29):
Can you tell me what the top twenty parts are
that you sell for a twenty ten FOD escape because
maybe I'm forgetting something, you know, because they can they
should be able to look it up by vehicle and
application commonly sold parts. I know our catalogs here in
New Jersey, or electronic catalogs will do that. They'll tell
me if I if I go in for a certain car,
they'll tell me what the top ten repairs are in
(14:50):
Northeast Jersey for that particular vehicle. And see, that's what's important.
I think the electronic cataloging that the parts houses are
using that AutoZone uses they can reference for that part
of the country. Like in Florida, they're probably selling a
lot of condensers in ac compressors, you know, in the
north after spring, they're probably selling a lot of shock
(15:11):
absorbers in California. You know what I'm saying, because it
varies by region, you know, and that's vehicles are subject
to well they fail by product of their environment. So
you know that's but that's how I would do it.
It's not It's not blue, is it the car.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
No, it's black. Oh okay, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, Tom's drooling. My engineer, Tom had he had one
with I don't know, two hundred and fifty thousand miles
on it, and he was a good dad. He gave
it to his daughter to drive for a while, and
you know, then he got his fifteen, which now has
four hundred thousand miles on it. We're going to have
we're going to send it to the Smithsonian. We're actually
(15:53):
we're going to sell it back to Ford. Ford's gonna
want to know what they did wrong that one would
last that long. So, you know, we don't want to
do this again. My god, we got to get them
to buy another car. So but but you know, that's
that's that's how I would approach it. And you know,
as as goofy as it sounds, you might want to
put a set of tires somewhere, But tires are hard because.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
You know, I got fourteens on my eighty seven fifty
and it's like, you know, right.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, trying to find trying to find fourteen inch tires today,
trying to find fifteen inch tires today is a project.
But you know, tires are hard. You can't put tires.
You can't keep rubber lying around. You're into that, you know,
dry rot and cracking and and failing thing. So yeah,
just just some challenges there. So all right, I'll tell you.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
About the regulator that that gave me a whole new thought.
That's right there.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
You know how many miles and how many miles are
on it, how many miles are on Yeah, put a
fuel put a fuel pump on the shelf.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
You know, put uh oh yeah, because I've done I've
done lark pump, I've done the starter ru yep.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, put a fuel pump on the shelf, and maybe
get eight thing. Yeah, maybe get a fuel pump relay,
you know, and keep that on the shelf. You know,
the goofy things, the things that you don't think about,
you know. And just and remember, filters don't go bad.
Ignition parts don't go bad. And by the mere fact
that you have them, they probably won't go bad. So
(17:26):
you know, it just it just become no. But you're
not allowed. Listen and you tell your wife I said this,
You're not allowed to buy another twenty ten Escape for
a parts vehicle because I've heard those stories. I just
want to buy one. I want to have a sit
here so I can pick parts off, although I've thought
of that myself, right, Well, yeah, you don't. You know,
there's a limit, So I gotta go, Michael, But get
(17:47):
down to your local atos hole.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
And they'd be glad to help you out.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
You're very welcome, sir. You have a good rest of
the weekend. Thank you very much. Yeah, parts vehicles, right,
we all need one. We all need a spare parts vehicle.
Although I'm still looking for that other seventy two money, Carlo,
there's any out there, I'm ronning any in the car doctor. Hey,
coming up next, Kylie French, Nhou of Maine and everything
you wanted to know about undercoding. I'm sorry, Nhou oil application.
(18:10):
I apologize. Right after this, we'll be back.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
Don't go away, look.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Back, listeners, ron An Anie in the car doctor. You
know it's it's warm weather and it's probably not the
time to be thinking about this, or is it okay?
Taking care of your vehicles underside the undercoding area, the
part that we worry about when winter will come back.
It will come back. I know it's hard to believe
this time of year, but we will be cold again
soon and we have to think about getting the vehicle
ready for it well. Winter driving and just taking care
(19:09):
of it year round is a good option as well,
because weather comes in all shapes and sizes, especially in
the last couple of years. So we reached We've reached
out to Kaylee French. She is the Nhou Mobile franchise
up there in Belgrade, Maine. We thought we would go
as far north in America as we could, and we're
here talking and chatting today with Kaylee. Thanks for joining
us today, Hey.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Ron, I appreciate it. You are right. Winter's right around
the corner, and it's actually best to think about undercoating
in the summer. Our product actually works well with the heat.
It makes your money go a little bit further, and
the product works a little bit more for you when
it's warmer out. So it's a great time to start
thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Let's start there. Why is that it works better in
the warm weather.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
So our product is meant to creep, so it's meant
to work for you as soon as it's applied to
the frame. So one quarter sized amount of our oil
undercoating is going to creep up to seven inches. That
just happens faster, more efficiently when it's warmer. If you
think about oil, it's going to stay liquid, it's going
to stay wet, and as soon as it's warm, when
it the frame itself is warm, it's going to spread
a little bit further. Still going to work when it's colder,
(20:11):
just works a little more efficiently when it's warmer.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Kaylie, What do you say to the person that goes, well,
I listen, I just bought a brand new vehicle, and
you know everything is galvanized and protected, and you know
there's it's anti rust this and anti rust that, and
you know I shouldn't have to put any sort of
undercoating on a fifty or sixty thousand dollars vehicle. How
many times do you answer that question in the course
of a week.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Quite frequently, And I would say, manufacturers want you to
keep coming back to buy a new vehicle, and they've
got to give you a reason to do that, and
it's impossible for them to guarantee no rust will be
on your vehicle. Rust will really attack anything anything that's metal,
anything that's aluminum. It's going to go towards there's wire
harnesses in there that are going to be vulnerable because
they're now using soy wiring components. Our undercoating is going
(20:53):
to help with that as well, because mice get in
there and that's you know, soy is. They're attractive, that's
what they want. So it's the protect against rust because
Maine is just so brutal as far as many New
England states with the salt roadbrin that they do use,
so there's really no way around it. They can't get everything.
When they're manufacturing a vehicle. There's you know, rust that
gets into the wire harnesses, it gets into the folds
(21:15):
where they do all their weld jobs. It gets into
the parts that you can't see and don't even know
where they are. So it's really I know, we spend
a lot on these vehicles, but that's why it's beneficial
to spend just a little bit more to keep them safe,
keep them safe against all the rest.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
And it does. I mean, and Maine, you know, you
guys are nationally known as a very corrosive state, right.
I still remember we were talking before we went on
here here today about the bridge and Bath Maine that
that had corroded and rotted away. I think it was
ten twelve years ago because of all the corrosive that's
put on the road. It actually rotted a steel bridge
off its foundation, and yeah, you know that's that's like, wow,
(21:51):
that's quite an achievement, you know, all in the interest
of just trying to keep the roads clear. And you know,
in this in this day and age of four wheel drive,
all wheeled drive up the side of a building vehicles,
I question, you know, are we using too much corrosion?
So people are too much corrosive anti corrosive material. You know,
people need to undercoat their vehicles. Is it is it
(22:14):
becoming a maintenance item now.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Kayley, Honestly, it should be looked as such. There are
different variations of undercoating that you can do, but an
annual application really kind of is a good maintenance item
to consider. There's no reason that it shouldn't be just
factored in. It's costs less than most people's car payments,
so when you look at it that way, it's really
adding a lot of value to the vehicle and it's
going to keep it on the road a lot longer.
(22:37):
And people, you know, people do oil changes, they check
for all of their fluids on the daily. They replace
ball joints when those you know, start going. So this
should be considered just.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
As that, why don't I want to take you know what?
Why nho you? You know? What makes you guys different
than either other undercoatings? Or why can't I just put
used oil in a spray gun and just spray it
on the underside of my car? Isn't that the same thing?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Well, that's illegal to start you don't want to use
used motor oil. That's not going to get you very far,
but anyto you In New Hampshire oil undercoating. The undercoating
itself does really get set apart from other undercoatings. The
reason for that being is it can't be broken. A
lot of undercoatings that are advertised are solid. They harden
up to the frame and they form what seems to
(23:19):
be a barrier, but that's going to get chipped, it's
going to get cracked, and at that point you're really
kind of being counterproductive because moisture can still get up there.
Our product stays fluid, so by that it doesn't just
harden up and stop working for you. It stays fluid
and continues to work for you because it heals back over.
So with that being said, if you're looking at a
paint job and you scratch it, you're going to see
(23:40):
a white canvas again on that scratch mark. But our
product is going to keep creeping, so it's going to
keep healing over itself. And when it heals back over,
it's really just putting that shield back up against rust.
So that's one of the great benefits is it actually
penetrates the metal so it can keep doing that. The
oil itself is also you know, self healing, so it
displaces moisture and removes oxygen. So when you take those
(24:02):
out of the equation, oxidization can occur, so you're really
removing the possibility of rust right there.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Well, and that's what because and that's what creates rust, correct,
you know, it's it's a combination of things. I say
this all the time. You ever go down and you'll see,
you know, television or movies where they've got shipwrecks down
at the bottom of the ocean, and if they're far
enough down, they're not rusted because there's no oxygen in
the water and it'll sit under the water. So it's
(24:28):
not necessarily water that makes something rust. It's got to
be water oxygen, it's got to be the right combination
of things and what NHO you does. You touched on
it for a second there about the barrier, right, That
barrier that NHO You creates is key to protecting a vehicle, right.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Right, So when I mentioned that, it penetrates the metal.
So if you picture it in your head and you
think of a dry slate and then you drop some water,
say even a paper towel, it's a good analogy. If
you put a drop on a paper towel, it spreads
right out and you can kind of see it penetrating.
And then our product is going to cont tinue to
do that so it can continue working, continue creeping throughout
and then it can you know, get anywhere. At that point,
(25:06):
our product gets to base metal that you can't see
it gets. It gets everywhere throughout the vehicle, all of
the fold all of the you know, channeling underneath the vehicle, rockers,
cab corners, things that you can't readily see just by
looking at it. Even if we spray in that general area,
it's it's going to get there. So by kind of
forming that barrier, it's blocking out rest.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Now NHO you product, we'll talk about that specifically versus
the other guy you know, it has to be reapplied
at certain time intervals or does it? How does that work?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Yeah, So the base, our traditional oil undercoding product does
have to be applied annually. The reason for that being is,
you know, it's always getting attacked by salt roadbrind so
we do like an annual application on there, especially in
Maine where the conditions are what they are. However, we
do have a newer product that's gone through rigorous testing
(26:00):
and it kind of mimics our traditional oil undercoating in
the way that it does remain fluid, So that one's
called a hybrid, and it's kind of hybrid because it's
a lot like our traditional product, but it is a
little it's just set apart just a little bit. And
the reason for that being is because it's looked at
as a permanent coating, but not permanent in the sense
of the other ones that are going to harden, crack
(26:22):
all the things that we don't want on an undercoating.
Our hybrid product does remain fluid like our traditional oil
undercoating does, but it does kind of you know, peer
up for you. It's a semi solid hermatic steel on
that one. So that way you're still getting the creeping capabilities,
so you're still getting that maximum protection, but it's more
drip free. And if you start early, like that brand
(26:42):
new sixty thousand dollars truck we were talking about, if
you start well the vehicle's new, you can actually get
that product to be lifetime warranted on your vehicle. So
at that point, we do touch ups every couple of
years to make sure we're getting in the channels like
we need to. All the places you can't see that
we've talked about. We want to make sure we're touching
those up because you can't you can't keep us out
of there forever if you don't keep taking a peek
and making sure you're reapplying. But the actual undercoating itself
(27:06):
of that hybrid will be warrantied to last for the
life of the vehicle, assuming you keep up with your checkup.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You know, I never knew undercoating could have so many
aspects to it. You know, I've seen the hybrid. We've
worked a little bit with the hybrid in the shop,
and it's neat for everybody out there that may not
be able to visualize it and tell me yes or no. Okay,
Lee is. It's kind of like that hard shell chocolate
on top of that soft vanilla ice cream cone. It's
like it's got that rigidness to it, but it's got
(27:33):
flexibility also that it'll adhere to the body and flex
with the body as the vehicle goes down the road.
And it looks great even after it's being used for
a while. It doesn't disappear as fast.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's true. It's true, and it's honestly. It's a matte
finish too, which is nice. Our black undercoating is a glossy.
Some people like glossy, some people like matt. The hybrid
is a matte finish because it is kind of curing
just to touch there, like that hardshell you mentioned, but
it's not hard in the sense it'll be cracked. So
it's important to note that because once you have a
shell that does crack, like a lot of those permanent
(28:03):
undercoatings out there, your vehicle's just as vulnerable as it
was before. And you know, rocks do fling up as
you're driving down the road, especially in me and we
have dirt roads everywhere. Oh yeah, you want to keep
that in mind. For sure.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Main's a tough environment. Hey, Kaylee, can you stick around,
Let me pull over and take a pause. When we
come back, I want to talk to you a little
bit about well, I want to know about car washes
and undercoating products, and then I want to talk about
my favorite product. You guys have mouse Out. I love
mouse Out. Mouse Out's great, you know. To me, that's
the best thing about all of this because I can
protect my car and keep pritters away, which caused so
(28:34):
much problem. So stay put. We're talking with Kaylee French
of New Hampshire Oil Undercoating of Maine. I'm ronnin Any
and the car Doctor. We'll both be back right after this.
(28:55):
We're back and we're talking today with Kylie French of
New Hampshire Oil Undercoat of Maine. Kylie, when we pulled away,
the questions were about car wash taking your vehicle as
after it's been undercoated and prepped. You know, do car
washes hurt it? What does a car wash do? And
then regards to you know, car washes takeoff salt and
(29:16):
corrosives anyway, So why do I need to undercoat my
vehicle in the first place?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yeah, so undercoating aside, we really don't recommend undercarriage car washes,
you can still go through the car wash, but that
undercarriage package is really what does the damage. So many
car washes are using recycled water because they have to.
They don't have an endless supply of clean water, but
they can't eliminate all of the corrosive solutions that they
washed off the person before use vehicle. So you combine
that with the fact that it's high pressure water and
(29:41):
it's pushing up into the undercarriage of your vehicle. It's
getting in every nook and cranny, and it's getting where water,
let alone, salt brine was never intended to be, so
it's very counterproductive. But our product itself, once it's undercoated,
it penetrates that base metal. So even if water hits
it in some wipes the way, it's already penetrated. So
it's there. But we still recommend just to let the
product do its job. You don't need to wash it off.
(30:03):
If there's salts on top of the oil, the product's
going to work for you. It's going to keep working
for itself, and just yeah, just let it be, let it,
let it protect your vehicle.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
We're back to that barrier thing right that we talked
about before, that that barrier. Once it's there, it's there.
So let's go to my favorite product that any jou has.
I mean, I like them well, but this one just
puts a smile on my face. Mouse Out. Tell everybody
what mouse Out's all about.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, So mouse out is the name. It keeps the
mice out. And you don't think it's really a necessary thing,
but a lot of vehicles and main a lot of
people have land field mice. They're everywhere. And our wire
harnesses I think I touched on that before, but a
lot of manufacturers have switched to soy, which is environmentally friendly,
but it also attracts the mice. So that wire harness
is their key components to any vehicle, especially the newer ones,
(30:47):
because the wiring does so much. It keeps everything on
one bad wire. One teed wire can cause you havoc
and send you to the dealership so fast. Troubleshooting is expensive.
But our mouse out product actually has peppermint oil and
a predator scent in it, so you can't detect it.
Humans can't detect it, but it deters rodents in four ways,
the sense, the taste, the touch, and the predatory fear
(31:09):
that's in the product itself, so mice smell it and
they literally run the other direction. They've seen it in
testing happen and it's ninety two percent effective to keeping
mice out of vehicles, which is incredible.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And you can put a little bit of the mouse
out under the hood and key areas too correct and
that if something gets under the hood, it's going to
be pushed out as well.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
We put the mouse out everywhere that's hidden because mice
they have to find, they have to have a path
to travel, so we don't just put it in where
they like to hang out. We put it on the
path that they use to get there as well, so
we don't even give them a chance to get up there.
And you know, cause cause havoc under there.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
It makes sense, makes sense, Kylie. I want to thank you.
I've had a I've learned a lot. I love learning
about undercoating, especially NHOU because it's a fascinating product and
I just the more we learn about it, the more
we really enjoy it. And we see it in the
shop now and it's doing quite a great job. You
guys are really hard at it and doing some wonderful things.
If the listeners want more information, I mean, first of all,
(32:06):
in our last minute, you know you're in Maine. Do
you cover the state of Maine. You're mobile, right.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
We are, so anyhow you of Maine. We travel the
entire state of Maine, and we're fully mobile, so we
come right to you. You don't have to sit around
in the shop. We'll come to your house, we'll come
to your work, we'll come to your barbecue, and undercote
everybody's vehicle. It takes about an hour to be done
for one vehicle, but we've done at least ten a day.
So yeah, if you're in Maine, check us out. We
have a Facebook page or a website NHO. You have Maine,
(32:32):
you're welcome to give us a call two zero seven
six two zero six eight five nine two zero seven
six two zero six eight five nine and yeah, we're
happy to answer any questions. Get you on the books.
Our books do fill up quite fast, but we do
have openings for the season still and then if you're
not in Maine, but maybe close check us out. We
also have a shop in Chichester, New Hampshire, and you
can go there. Nhoil undercoding dot com to find another location.
(32:56):
There might be one closer to.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
You, perfect, Kylie. I want to thank you. You have a
great rest of the day, and you keep undercoat and
kiddo and my best everybody. You're very welcome. You'd be well.
I'm Ronning Ay and the car doctor. We are back
right after this.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Don't go away, and I want to thank Kylie for
taking the time.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
You know, it's it's summer, right, But the whole point
of that was this is the perfect time to be
doing vehicle undercoating and oil protect oil protecting like that
because it will spread farther in the warm weather. And
warm weather it's a good time to go cruising and
going for rides in the car. And whether it's a
hot rod or whether it's a new car, whatever the
case might be. Speaking of which Russell writes in from
(33:47):
North Carolina. Hey, Ron, I haven't heard you talk about
the hot rot a lot this year. Are you driving it?
And I was just curious you never mentioned do you
have problems getting fuel for it? What do you put
in the tank? Russ? And Russ says he owns a
nineteen eighty one Malibu Wagon as a dragster. It's got
to be kind of crazy, right, that's the fastest grocery
getter six seconds they get a quart of milk. Shell
(34:09):
V Power UH is my gasoline of choice, Russ when
I you know when I when I'm out and about
shell V pyr nitro is a shell V pot Take two.
Shell V Power nitro plus premium gasoline is the fuel
of choice. And I'll tell you why. They've really done
their homework in the last couple of years and they've
(34:30):
now got one of the best detergent fuels on the market.
They've got some great stuff on their website. If you
go to shell V Power nitro plus premium gasoline from
the Shell website and it talks about the the characteristics
of it and what it does. Mostly I'm concerned about well,
I'm concerned about all of it, but you know their
(34:50):
work for carbon deposits and corrosion from moisture. Shelvy Power
nitro plus premium gasoline is one of the best out there,
if not be pad so by all means. But Shell's
the guests from me, I've run it on ninety three
octane all day long, never have any issues. The engine's
twelve years old now and I haven't taken them apart
having any problems with valve train or anything else though,
(35:12):
Shell V Power Plus Nitro I'm sorry, SHELLV Power Nitro Plus.
I'm running any in the car Doctor until the next time.
The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
See you
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