Ron talks with Tom Glatch; Tom is a co-author of a new book, The Complete Book of Dodge & Plymouth Muscle Cars. From Motor Books, found at all the usual places, it covers in depth the growth of Dodge & Plymouth performance with first hand commentary and crystal clear color photos.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
But it's not gonna pitch you.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
She was saying that.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
She woke up to me by the hand. She's all
above me and my Chevy Van, and that's all right
with me. Welcome back listeners. You know this time of
year we all start to think about well classic cars
cruising uh summer evenings out and you hear that distant
burble of loud exhaust and you kind of reminisce back
(00:33):
to those days. Well, this time of year also, if
you're a regular listener, you know I like to always
review and talk about this. We're getting ready for Father's
Day that's right around the corner. Some are cruising season
is upon us, and we're going to be talking about
car books like we always do. And today we're going
to talk about Dodge and Plymouth muscle cars from the
sixty to today. And we're we have with us today
one of the co authors, Tom Glatch, and we're gonna
(00:54):
put them on the spot, ask them a couple of
other hard questions, and have some fun, because that's really
what this segment is all about. Tom. Welcome to the
Car Doctors.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Thank you very much. As an honor.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You know, we always start out this way. Car guys
always have or car persons, all right, we've had some.
We've had women on the show as well that do this.
You know that first car, What was that first car? Tom?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It was a nineteen seventy Plymouth Duster three forty. You
have to picture it. It was metallic, burnt orange metallic,
which is metallic root beer color, right, the black final top.
You don't see many of them even back then in
that color. And with the three forty engine that was
(01:35):
a screamer. I would run it until the veils loaded,
bang the gears, and it was. It was as fast
as just about anything out there.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
How old were you when you had that car?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I was nineteen. I was not one of those people
that turned sixteen or fifteen and they ran out and
bout a car. I was.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Now when you look back and you go, geez, what
I had at nineteen, are you a maze? You survived?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It was a challenge, yes, yes, and you know, not
that we did anything illegal, but we did drive rather fast. Yeah,
I had some with I always like to say it
was terrifying in the rain, but well, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Would like to say we didn't. We didn't really break
any rules. We just kind of bent them a little bit,
you know, we just kind of pushed the envelope. And
I think that's what car guys did when they were younger.
So whatever happened to that car, what became of it.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I traded it in on a nineteen sixty nine BMW
two thousand and two, which was a great little car too,
Don't get me wrong. It was just gas prices started
skyrocketing in the mid seventies and it was just getting
too costly to drive. Plus I live in the Midwest.
It was totally impractical in winter, and the BMW was
(02:52):
a great little car, and it just.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It just it's always been. Has it always been Dodge
Plymouth Hot Rods for you? Or have you listen to
other things? Because it's funny guys tend to stick to
one brand.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I'm not a collector, never really collected cars, not one
of those people that works on them much. So I've
had a variety, but I've always been a mopar guy
at heart, even before i bought this Plymouth. Growing up,
we were Richard Petty fans, and here in the Midwest
with the USAC stock cars, Don Whiten and Norm Nelson
(03:24):
and people like that, we were just the first race
I went to. My brother took me to the Milwaukee Mile.
And when those heavenies flew by you literally feet away
and sucked the breath out of you doing it, you go,
that's my kind of car.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
How how rare was it hemmy for you to see
back in the day, seventies and the eighties, it was.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Very rare, very rare it was. It was almost as
ray were seeing one today. In fact, I really don't
remember any in the neighborhood. My friends all had mo pars.
We would line up the front row of the A
and w rootbeer stand in the area with our mo
pars and just point them out of the street and go,
come on, people, right, make our day. And they were
(04:04):
all threty threes for forties, my three forty. You just
never saw hammies back then. We were just too expensive. Right.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But you did have multiple carb cars, right, you had
the six packs and such, right, yeah, And little did
we know what would become of those. A friend of
mine had an actual seventy one hemicooda and yeah it
it and you know he kicks himself to this day.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It just very valuable.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's it just became and it was
it was a was it plumb crazy the purple Yeah,
but it just back in the day it was this
is he had that car in the car Yeah, it
was just another car. Yeah, you know, around seventy five
seventy six, it just became too expensive. He couldn't keep
up with the gas, he couldn't keep up with the
(04:49):
repairs and the maintenance exactly, and he traded it. I
think if it was for two grand and I used
state police car with one hundred thousand miles on.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It, I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, we didn't know. We just didn't know.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We didn't know.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So how did you come to write the book? You know,
Dodge and Plymouth muscle cars, every model from nineteen sixty
to today. You co authored that with Mike Muller. How
did that? How did that come to be?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Well? This this was my fifth book for Motor Books.
I've been writing about cars and photographing cars for forty
one years so, and that was all for magazines and
calendars and things like that. But starting in twenty fifteen,
I wrote my first book for Motor Books at their suggestion,
and then last year they came to me and said, hey,
(05:34):
do you want to take on this project. Mike Bielder
did the book in two thousand and eight. He's an
outstanding writer, an outstanding photographer. I've known him for thirty
five years and he's one of the people I really
look up to, one of the best in the business.
But he retired a couple of years ago, and the
book that he did, because it came out in two
(05:54):
thousand and eight, ended pretty much at nineteen seventy four,
just hints at the new Charger and Challenger that were
coming out, you know, around that two thousand and eight
two thousand and six timeframe. Motor Books wanted to bring
it into the twenty first entry and last year was
the perfect year to do it, since it was the
last year probably or possibly for the gasoline Cowered HEMI
(06:18):
powered muscle car. So Mike, being retired now, didn't want
to do it. They turned to me began being a
friend of Mike, and Mike with Mike's blessing, I was
glad to do it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You know, I've gone through the book and I love
the way you've taken year by year, motor by motor,
you know, engine option by engine option, you know, you
go to nineteen sixty six, nineteen sixty six Plymouth Satellite
hemy on page thirty seven, and you list the specs
and the color photography is outstanding. You know, did you
(06:52):
do you know that they these aren't stock photographs? Did
you go and photograph cars of these samples? Like where
did you come up with the car to put it
on the pages?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
The first ten chapters was all Mike. Mike's writing and
Mike's photography, and he was in the Atlanta area, but
he's from central Illinois, and he just he has a
lot of collection connections and a lot of people he knows,
and so he sourced all of those photos up through
nineteen seventy four. I did everything now from two thousand
(07:25):
and six to twenty twenty three, and those are all
cars that I knew in the area, people that are
passionate about Chrysler products, about maintaining Chrysler products and owning them.
And they were just a joy to work with and
a pleasure to photograph these cars and to write about them.
(07:45):
It was just a fantastic project.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You know, you have to give Chrysler credit, right because
their current level crop of muscle cars, so to speak,
is so reminiscent of the cars from the sixties and
the seventies in terms of horsepower, in terms of look.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Oh ridiculous, what they've what they've done with it. You
know when you when people say, oh, the sixties were
the good old days, No, they were great. I lived
through them. You lived through them. But these are the
good old days right now too. One thousand and twenty
five horse power in the Demon one seventies. That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Well, it's it's aenty twenty five horse power in a
car that you can do one hundred and forty in
one finger holding onto the wheel. The air conditioning's on,
the power, windows are working, the radio's blasting away, and
you're driving it with one finger on the wheel. Not
that I encourage anybody.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
To try that, but no, but you could.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Right, it's you know the old muscle cars. A friend
of mine has a Shelby GT. Three fifty, you know,
Cobra Ace Shelby, and you know, Jimmy always tells you
that Blue is trying to kill you if you don't
pay attention. You got to hang on with two wheels,
both feet, eyes wide open. That was a challenge to drive, Yeah,
it's a challenge to drive, just like any of the
muscle cars you know that we talk about in the
(08:56):
book from the sixties and the seventies. Anything from the
sixties and the seventies is required full attention. Oh yeah,
you know, it's it's but the book covers it all.
You know, you go all the way up through modern
day Chrysler. I mean this book, the color photography, the pages,
the engines just leap off the pages. There's no other
way to say it.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And my challenge was to take what Mike had done
those first ten chapters and right in a similar style
and photograph in a similar style, so that a person
god go from chapter ten that Mike did to chapter
eleven that I did and really not notice that it
was somebody who writing it or somebody new doing the photographs.
And since I've known Mike for years and I really
(09:36):
admired his work and we have similar styles, I think
it turned out great.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You knows, I'll tell you what you know. Let's pull
over and take a pause. You got you got time
to come back, tom Let me pull over to take
a pause, and we'll cover this a little bit more
in detail. Let's talk a little bit about I've got
some muscle car memories of Chryslers from the sixties and
the seventies. Maybe we can do a little bench race.
And when we get back, I'm on a Enny and
the Car Doctor. I'm here with Tom Glatchw're talking about
Dodge and Plymouth cars of the sixties. We'll return right
(10:01):
after this. Don't go away.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Solemn bat was bad and that was small Collin Love Sam.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And we're back. Ron and Andy and the Car Doctor Here.
We're talking to Tom Glatch. Tom is the co author
of the Complete Book of Dodge and Plymouth Muscle Cars.
Tom and we pulled away for the pause. I promised
we would come back. I want to talk a little
bit about those rare Dodge and Plymouth muscle cars. You know,
I told you the story off air of my friend
Nikki who had an early sixties and you gave me
(10:57):
the year he had. An early sixties Chrysler was a
fact three race car with Plexi class windows and seatbelts
to hold the windows.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Up right, right, you know, sixty two to sixty six
or so.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, you know you got to give Chrysler credit. Right,
They were putting factory street cars out there. I mean,
fort and GM were two, but some of those Chryslers.
I have to say, I actually have seen more Chrysler
factory race cars, more Chrysler odd odd cars I called them,
or maybe that's the wrong word, you know, it's I've
(11:29):
never seen a Copo Camaro, I've never seen. I've seen
one Boss for twenty nine Mustang one. But I've seen
I've seen a HEMI kuda, I've seen, you know, I
I saw Nicky's, you know, early sixties Dodge race car
that was acid dip fenders and all that stuff. You know,
I told you the story. I got picked up hitch
hiking by a guy with a Dodge Darty. You put
(11:50):
a four forty motor in a in a Dodge Dart
and the thing roasted the tires down Main Street, Ramsey.
You know, I know we're right around the corner from
the house. There's three early six these Chrysler. Was that
a three hundred with the was that a four to
thirteen wedge motor with the twin four barrels, the cross
rams with.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
The cross rams right, and that was all racing technology.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And how rare are those.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Very they only made a few hundred every year. They're
very expensive.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
But I've seen more of those are.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Faster than corvettes.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yes, we.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Could.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
We could talk about I'm not fascinated by the earliest corvettes.
That's you ever try and steer. A friend of mine's
got a sixty one Corvette just to start it. That's
a whole other conversation. But all those cars that I'm
talking about are in the book. Maybe not Nicky's race car,
but you know the four thirteen and the cross Rams
and even some of the pictures of the slant sixes
(12:44):
with two four barrels on them.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Again all racing technology. They just did half of what
they did with the V eighth.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, you know, if you could have any one of
those cars, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Gosh, I don't know. I would take any one of
those from the sixty three sixty four. That's that's where
I really got as a kid eight years old. I'm going, man,
he seems are cool, and just stay with me.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Since it's it's it's and you know what, it's a
good disease to have, Tom Really.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
It is.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Fanatics. That's why I love doing this book. Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You know what one thing I will say about mopars
and I'm a GM guy, I'm a self admitted GM guy,
but I still have respect for all the brands. You
can look at a Dodge Plymouth muscle car. What always
fascinated with them was you would pop the hood. The
engine compartment was always painted the same color as the
exterior paint. That's right, And that told me what the
(13:41):
engineers thought of it as to how good that paint
actually was. That it was it would withstand engine compartment
heat and it held up. I was always fascinated by that.
I know it's a little detail, but just something I
always saw. So the name of the book is the
Complete Dodge and Plymouth muscle Cars, every model from nineteen
sixty to today. It's written by Mike Muller and with
(14:02):
our guest today, Tom Glatch. Tom. Where can the listeners
get this book if they want to do so? Father's
days around the corner, and I'm sure everybody wants to
pick one up for mom or dad and kind of
relive the old days.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Where can they find it anywhere? Barnes and Noble, Amazon,
independent bookstores, you name, it gets out there. Okay, it'll
be out there. It'll be out there. June six, June
eighteenth is the publishing date.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Gotcha? If not. They can get out the Quarto q
U A r t O Quarto dot com, give pre
order it, find it. They're pre ordered, so Tom an
absolute pleasure. We'll have to get together again and go
bench right me sometime. I enjoyed the conversation.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Sir, Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You're very welcome. I'm ronin Ny and the car Doctor.
We'll see you guys on the other side. I'll be
back right after this. Well, she got her daddy's card
(15:05):
in
But it's not gonna pitch you.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
She was saying that.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
She woke up to me by the hand. She's all
above me and my Chevy Van, and that's all right
with me. Welcome back listeners. You know this time of
year we all start to think about well classic cars
cruising uh summer evenings out and you hear that distant
burble of loud exhaust and you kind of reminisce back
(00:33):
to those days. Well, this time of year also, if
you're a regular listener, you know I like to always
review and talk about this. We're getting ready for Father's
Day that's right around the corner. Some are cruising season
is upon us, and we're going to be talking about
car books like we always do. And today we're going
to talk about Dodge and Plymouth muscle cars from the
sixty to today. And we're we have with us today
one of the co authors, Tom Glatch, and we're gonna
(00:54):
put them on the spot, ask them a couple of
other hard questions, and have some fun, because that's really
what this segment is all about. Tom. Welcome to the
Car Doctors.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Thank you very much. As an honor.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You know, we always start out this way. Car guys
always have or car persons, all right, we've had some.
We've had women on the show as well that do this.
You know that first car, What was that first car? Tom?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It was a nineteen seventy Plymouth Duster three forty. You
have to picture it. It was metallic, burnt orange metallic,
which is metallic root beer color, right, the black final top.
You don't see many of them even back then in
that color. And with the three forty engine that was
(01:35):
a screamer. I would run it until the veils loaded,
bang the gears, and it was. It was as fast
as just about anything out there.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
How old were you when you had that car?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I was nineteen. I was not one of those people
that turned sixteen or fifteen and they ran out and
bout a car. I was.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Now when you look back and you go, geez, what
I had at nineteen, are you a maze? You survived?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It was a challenge, yes, yes, and you know, not
that we did anything illegal, but we did drive rather fast. Yeah,
I had some with I always like to say it
was terrifying in the rain, but well, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Would like to say we didn't. We didn't really break
any rules. We just kind of bent them a little bit,
you know, we just kind of pushed the envelope. And
I think that's what car guys did when they were younger.
So whatever happened to that car, what became of it.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I traded it in on a nineteen sixty nine BMW
two thousand and two, which was a great little car too,
Don't get me wrong. It was just gas prices started
skyrocketing in the mid seventies and it was just getting
too costly to drive. Plus I live in the Midwest.
It was totally impractical in winter, and the BMW was
(02:52):
a great little car, and it just.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It just it's always been. Has it always been Dodge
Plymouth Hot Rods for you? Or have you listen to
other things? Because it's funny guys tend to stick to
one brand.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I'm not a collector, never really collected cars, not one
of those people that works on them much. So I've
had a variety, but I've always been a mopar guy
at heart, even before i bought this Plymouth. Growing up,
we were Richard Petty fans, and here in the Midwest
with the USAC stock cars, Don Whiten and Norm Nelson
(03:24):
and people like that, we were just the first race
I went to. My brother took me to the Milwaukee Mile.
And when those heavenies flew by you literally feet away
and sucked the breath out of you doing it, you go,
that's my kind of car.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
How how rare was it hemmy for you to see
back in the day, seventies and the eighties, it was.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Very rare, very rare it was. It was almost as
ray were seeing one today. In fact, I really don't
remember any in the neighborhood. My friends all had mo pars.
We would line up the front row of the A
and w rootbeer stand in the area with our mo
pars and just point them out of the street and go,
come on, people, right, make our day. And they were
(04:04):
all threty threes for forties, my three forty. You just
never saw hammies back then. We were just too expensive. Right.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But you did have multiple carb cars, right, you had
the six packs and such, right, yeah, And little did
we know what would become of those. A friend of
mine had an actual seventy one hemicooda and yeah it
it and you know he kicks himself to this day.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It just very valuable.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's it just became and it was
it was a was it plumb crazy the purple Yeah,
but it just back in the day it was this
is he had that car in the car Yeah, it
was just another car. Yeah, you know, around seventy five
seventy six, it just became too expensive. He couldn't keep
up with the gas, he couldn't keep up with the
(04:49):
repairs and the maintenance exactly, and he traded it. I
think if it was for two grand and I used
state police car with one hundred thousand miles on.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It, I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, we didn't know. We just didn't know.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We didn't know.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So how did you come to write the book? You know,
Dodge and Plymouth muscle cars, every model from nineteen sixty
to today. You co authored that with Mike Muller. How
did that? How did that come to be?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Well? This this was my fifth book for Motor Books.
I've been writing about cars and photographing cars for forty
one years so, and that was all for magazines and
calendars and things like that. But starting in twenty fifteen,
I wrote my first book for Motor Books at their suggestion,
and then last year they came to me and said, hey,
(05:34):
do you want to take on this project. Mike Bielder
did the book in two thousand and eight. He's an
outstanding writer, an outstanding photographer. I've known him for thirty
five years and he's one of the people I really
look up to, one of the best in the business.
But he retired a couple of years ago, and the
book that he did, because it came out in two
(05:54):
thousand and eight, ended pretty much at nineteen seventy four,
just hints at the new Charger and Challenger that were
coming out, you know, around that two thousand and eight
two thousand and six timeframe. Motor Books wanted to bring
it into the twenty first entry and last year was
the perfect year to do it, since it was the
last year probably or possibly for the gasoline Cowered HEMI
(06:18):
powered muscle car. So Mike, being retired now, didn't want
to do it. They turned to me began being a
friend of Mike, and Mike with Mike's blessing, I was
glad to do it.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You know, I've gone through the book and I love
the way you've taken year by year, motor by motor,
you know, engine option by engine option, you know, you
go to nineteen sixty six, nineteen sixty six Plymouth Satellite
hemy on page thirty seven, and you list the specs
and the color photography is outstanding. You know, did you
(06:52):
do you know that they these aren't stock photographs? Did
you go and photograph cars of these samples? Like where
did you come up with the car to put it
on the pages?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
The first ten chapters was all Mike. Mike's writing and
Mike's photography, and he was in the Atlanta area, but
he's from central Illinois, and he just he has a
lot of collection connections and a lot of people he knows,
and so he sourced all of those photos up through
nineteen seventy four. I did everything now from two thousand
(07:25):
and six to twenty twenty three, and those are all
cars that I knew in the area, people that are
passionate about Chrysler products, about maintaining Chrysler products and owning them.
And they were just a joy to work with and
a pleasure to photograph these cars and to write about them.
(07:45):
It was just a fantastic project.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You know, you have to give Chrysler credit, right because
their current level crop of muscle cars, so to speak,
is so reminiscent of the cars from the sixties and
the seventies in terms of horsepower, in terms of look.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Oh ridiculous, what they've what they've done with it. You
know when you when people say, oh, the sixties were
the good old days, No, they were great. I lived
through them. You lived through them. But these are the
good old days right now too. One thousand and twenty
five horse power in the Demon one seventies. That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Well, it's it's aenty twenty five horse power in a
car that you can do one hundred and forty in
one finger holding onto the wheel. The air conditioning's on,
the power, windows are working, the radio's blasting away, and
you're driving it with one finger on the wheel. Not
that I encourage anybody.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
To try that, but no, but you could.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Right, it's you know the old muscle cars. A friend
of mine has a Shelby GT. Three fifty, you know,
Cobra Ace Shelby, and you know, Jimmy always tells you
that Blue is trying to kill you if you don't
pay attention. You got to hang on with two wheels,
both feet, eyes wide open. That was a challenge to drive, Yeah,
it's a challenge to drive, just like any of the
muscle cars you know that we talk about in the
(08:56):
book from the sixties and the seventies. Anything from the
sixties and the seventies is required full attention. Oh yeah,
you know, it's it's but the book covers it all.
You know, you go all the way up through modern
day Chrysler. I mean this book, the color photography, the pages,
the engines just leap off the pages. There's no other
way to say it.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And my challenge was to take what Mike had done
those first ten chapters and right in a similar style
and photograph in a similar style, so that a person
god go from chapter ten that Mike did to chapter
eleven that I did and really not notice that it
was somebody who writing it or somebody new doing the photographs.
And since I've known Mike for years and I really
(09:36):
admired his work and we have similar styles, I think
it turned out great.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You knows, I'll tell you what you know. Let's pull
over and take a pause. You got you got time
to come back, tom Let me pull over to take
a pause, and we'll cover this a little bit more
in detail. Let's talk a little bit about I've got
some muscle car memories of Chryslers from the sixties and
the seventies. Maybe we can do a little bench race.
And when we get back, I'm on a Enny and
the Car Doctor. I'm here with Tom Glatchw're talking about
Dodge and Plymouth cars of the sixties. We'll return right
(10:01):
after this. Don't go away.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Solemn bat was bad and that was small Collin Love Sam.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And we're back. Ron and Andy and the Car Doctor Here.
We're talking to Tom Glatch. Tom is the co author
of the Complete Book of Dodge and Plymouth Muscle Cars.
Tom and we pulled away for the pause. I promised
we would come back. I want to talk a little
bit about those rare Dodge and Plymouth muscle cars. You know,
I told you the story off air of my friend
Nikki who had an early sixties and you gave me
(10:57):
the year he had. An early sixties Chrysler was a
fact three race car with Plexi class windows and seatbelts
to hold the windows.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Up right, right, you know, sixty two to sixty six
or so.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, you know you got to give Chrysler credit. Right,
They were putting factory street cars out there. I mean,
fort and GM were two, but some of those Chryslers.
I have to say, I actually have seen more Chrysler
factory race cars, more Chrysler odd odd cars I called them,
or maybe that's the wrong word, you know, it's I've
(11:29):
never seen a Copo Camaro, I've never seen. I've seen
one Boss for twenty nine Mustang one. But I've seen
I've seen a HEMI kuda, I've seen, you know, I
I saw Nicky's, you know, early sixties Dodge race car
that was acid dip fenders and all that stuff. You know,
I told you the story. I got picked up hitch
hiking by a guy with a Dodge Darty. You put
(11:50):
a four forty motor in a in a Dodge Dart
and the thing roasted the tires down Main Street, Ramsey.
You know, I know we're right around the corner from
the house. There's three early six these Chrysler. Was that
a three hundred with the was that a four to
thirteen wedge motor with the twin four barrels, the cross
rams with.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
The cross rams right, and that was all racing technology.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And how rare are those.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Very they only made a few hundred every year. They're
very expensive.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
But I've seen more of those are.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Faster than corvettes.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yes, we.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Could.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
We could talk about I'm not fascinated by the earliest corvettes.
That's you ever try and steer. A friend of mine's
got a sixty one Corvette just to start it. That's
a whole other conversation. But all those cars that I'm
talking about are in the book. Maybe not Nicky's race car,
but you know the four thirteen and the cross Rams
and even some of the pictures of the slant sixes
(12:44):
with two four barrels on them.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Again all racing technology. They just did half of what
they did with the V eighth.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, you know, if you could have any one of
those cars, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Gosh, I don't know. I would take any one of
those from the sixty three sixty four. That's that's where
I really got as a kid eight years old. I'm going, man,
he seems are cool, and just stay with me.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Since it's it's it's and you know what, it's a
good disease to have, Tom Really.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
It is.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Fanatics. That's why I love doing this book. Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You know what one thing I will say about mopars
and I'm a GM guy, I'm a self admitted GM guy,
but I still have respect for all the brands. You
can look at a Dodge Plymouth muscle car. What always
fascinated with them was you would pop the hood. The
engine compartment was always painted the same color as the
exterior paint. That's right, And that told me what the
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engineers thought of it as to how good that paint
actually was. That it was it would withstand engine compartment
heat and it held up. I was always fascinated by that.
I know it's a little detail, but just something I
always saw. So the name of the book is the
Complete Dodge and Plymouth muscle Cars, every model from nineteen
sixty to today. It's written by Mike Muller and with
(14:02):
our guest today, Tom Glatch. Tom. Where can the listeners
get this book if they want to do so? Father's
days around the corner, and I'm sure everybody wants to
pick one up for mom or dad and kind of
relive the old days.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Where can they find it anywhere? Barnes and Noble, Amazon,
independent bookstores, you name, it gets out there. Okay, it'll
be out there. It'll be out there. June six, June
eighteenth is the publishing date.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Gotcha? If not. They can get out the Quarto q
U A r t O Quarto dot com, give pre
order it, find it. They're pre ordered, so Tom an
absolute pleasure. We'll have to get together again and go
bench right me sometime. I enjoyed the conversation.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Sir, Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You're very welcome. I'm ronin Ny and the car Doctor.
We'll see you guys on the other side. I'll be
back right after this. Well, she got her daddy's card
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