August 5, 2023 • 35 mins
Ron starts this episode talking about a 16 Grand Cherokee with an aftermarket radio where the USB ports stopped working : takes a call on an 09 Rav 4 with a non working blower and no power to the console : takes a call discussing the power grid and solar farms and EV’s : takes a call on a 15 Silverado with a noise in the back end that no one can identify : answers an email on an F550 with a fan clutch problem.
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Speaker 2 (01:20):
How appropriate that Tom used a little bit of star
Trek and are open today. And we didn't collude on this.
It just kind of worked out like that because I
told him just minutes before the show, I said, he
asked me about a vehicle I was talking to him
about in the middle of the week, and he said,
how'd you make out? And I said, you know, it's
kind of like when Scotty would have to give Kirk
warp drive but he couldn't give him impulse. And Kirk
(01:40):
was happy with that because I got him home. Because
that's sort of the story of this Jeep twenty sixteen
Jeep Grand Cherokee came into the shop at our Automotive
this week, new customer, and man, I feel old because
the owner is the niece of a woman I went
to high school with. How do you like them? Apples?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Small world. I looked at the last name and I said, jeez,
I know this name. I said, you're not really Oh yeah,
that's my aunt. Oh good good. Now I really feel old.
So kid's probably twenty two years old, and I'm thinking, Wow.
So anyway, jeep's a jeep. Vehicle's a vehicle, jobs a job.
The problem was Meredith's jeep in the front of a
(02:19):
jeep radio right below it in the little cubby, they
have what they call a media center. It's got a USBC,
a USBA, and a different type of port, just the
data transfer a port if you want to put a
memory card in. I think it was for and then
it's got a cigarette lighter next to it, and that
all interconnects and interfaces up to the radio. Well, about
(02:40):
eight months ago, Meredith had the radio taken out and
had an aftermarket radio put in, an Apple iPlayer car
Play radio, whatever the heck it is, you know, And
this is my argument against I really worry about after
market radio installs. I'm not condemning the entire industry, but
I think it has to be done right, and it
has to be done so that it interfaces and work
with the rest of the systems on the vehicle, because
(03:01):
the radio, as Meredith found out, is an essential part
of the system. It interconnects everything. When I did an
initial scan because I was trying to get the problem. Okay, wait,
back up. The problem with this was the cigarette lighter
power port stopped working, the US beat ports stopped working,
(03:22):
and the power supply power ports in the console, underneath
the console and in the very back that would face
the passengers in the second seat stopped working. Boy, there's
an awful lot to talk about here. I scanned it
for codes. Why why would I hook a scan tool
up to a car that had no check engine light on?
Because there's still other computers and modules on this vehicle.
(03:45):
There's still systems that need to be checked. And sure
enough it came up with lack of communication to the radio,
which I expected the radio was gone, but it also
told me that the install was done badly because there's
no communication interface as prescribed and that could affect future
your functionality of the system, future software updates of the system.
(04:05):
You know, you can't just take a radio out like that.
I don't think it's a safe and smart move. It's
creating issues, as you're going to hear about in a minute.
I went and I looked at this, and I said,
what's working? What's not?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I have a data port connector, it's a it's a
known good cigarette lighter plug that I use it. It's
a female and a male side. I also have some
USB c and A cables that I can plug in
known good, known good quality, known good stuff. You know,
we use it around the shop for testing purposes and
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it works. So the first thing I did was just
plug into every port. And as it turns out, I
could get the rear data ports facing the passenger seat
to the rear of the vehicle. They were working, and
the cigarette lighter did not, but the power port inside
the console did, so I'm sorry, Yeah, the serare lighter
(05:02):
did not. So, you know, I'm kind of backtracking and
I'm saying, why does Marath say this doesn't None of
this works? And then I looked at the little She
had a plugin adapter all right, you know, like a
cigarette lighter adapter where one side plugs into the cigarette lighter.
It's that it's that mail side, and then the other
(05:22):
side was just a USBA, that traditional rectangular USB port
that we're so used to seeing that the cable would
plug into. Problem number one solved the marror. This adapter
was no good. It didn't work anymore. I would plug
that into the other two data ports or other two
power ports, couldn't get any voltage out of it. It
didn't work, but yet my stuff did so right off
(05:44):
the bat, I solved half the problem in about three
minutes because known good right. Sometimes you need known good
and sometimes it's easier. You can't always do it in
the case of if it's a computer, but if it's
a USB cable, always go for the obvious. That took
out half the equation. In looking at the wiring diagrams,
they all came down to either ground nine twelve or
nine eleven. Nine to twelve I've proved good because I
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knew the data port at the rear of the vehicle
was working once I used my own plug in cables,
so that took that out of the equation. And then
nine to eleven. I knew the ground was good because
nine to eleven was the ground for the console power
port under the cover that was working, and I had
power there. I tested it. I had power and ground,
so I knew nine to eleven was good. It went
back to a common point. I went through fuses and
(06:32):
it was interesting typical jeep set up for fuses in
the PDC the power distribution center, there was close to
one hundred fuse choices of varying sizes and shapes, which
sort of blew my customer's mind. She was really shocked
and surprised to see that. And I said, oh, this
is only one fuse box. The vehicle should have two.
(06:54):
And I've seen vehicles with three and four fuse boxes.
You know, there was nothing simple about fuses anymore. It's
not oh, just plug a fuse in. Good. You tell
me which one out of the four hundred possible, and
I'll plug it in. All right, So I went through fuses,
fuses were all good. I got down to g do
I have power coming down to the cigarette lighter? Because
(07:15):
I wanted to fix that first. Do I have power
coming down to the cigarette lighter? In the back at
the base of the console, so, you know, before I
went further, I looked at wiring and I traced it
and it came down. There's what they call an IP
two connector in the right side kick panel. It sits
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in the right real well kind of in the area
where your foot lay, and that is the power distribution
point where it comes in from the front. Off the
power distribution center comes down the A pillar sneaks under
the carpet and gets over to the cigarette lighter over
in the center console. Gee, you know, should I go
over here? You know there's there's been documented cases where
(07:57):
if the sun roof leaks water, if the carpet is wet,
that connector gets wet and it creates allse sort of
electrical issues. But the carpet was dry, so I went
the other way. I pulled the side strip off the
console and shoved my hand up behind the console, felt
the connector at the cigarette lighter while watching my plugin
tool to see if I would have power. And as
(08:18):
soon as I wiggled the connector at the cigarette lighter, boom,
power came up. I now had power and ground at
that and the cigarette lighter worked. I was able to
get that to charge. The USB cables were a little
bit more involved. The USB connectors CNA were my focus
because she didn't use the large data transfer like a
memory card slot. She didn't use that, and she wasn't
(08:39):
too worried about it. And what I discovered was in
looking at wiring, those two USB ports go directly through
in two the radio, so they have to be connected
that way. They didn't. They don't work. So now you know,
I talked to Meredith and she said, you know, she said,
you've got me three quarters of the way there. I said, well,
(09:02):
the next step is I'd have to take the radio
out and see how it's wired. And I pulled the
face plate off. You know, I it's it's really amazing.
You know, you've got to work on these cars as
if somebody is going to see it, because somebody did
see it. And I saw the wiring mess how things
were just sort of shoved in there, very unneatly, very unprofessionally,
without any care or concern. And I explained that to her,
(09:24):
and I said, you know, it's working. Do you want
me to go further. I'll have to unwire the radio
and wire it back and make it neat and no,
so we kind of stopped. It's you know, she had
she had warp drive. She wasn't interested in impulse power.
She had a charge port, she had the data ports
to the rear. She emailed the guy that did the radio.
This is the best story. This is the best part
of the story. She emailed the guy that did the
(09:46):
radio when he said, well that USB and USC port
shouldn't work anyway, because I disconnected and when I did
the radio, and the one that should work is the
black cable coming off the side that's hanging down to
the right, which there was a USB a receptacal cable
just dangling off the right side, which I took and
put up under the console and I actually put it
into a way that she could use it through the
(10:06):
center console now not have to reach around. And she
said why, she asked me. Mareth said to me, she said,
why is you know, why is this like this? She
said why? What happened? And to what? And I said,
you know, the problem is it was done badly. It
was done badly, and it's done wrong. I can't communicate
(10:29):
with the radio. The radio is now eliminated from the
diagnostic and I have to work around that. And the
only way I can do this is by pintesting individual wires,
power and grounds and signal at the base or at
the back of the radio. And I come back to
my original opening comment with you that radios are just
an integral part of the vehicle today. And I'm not
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saying you can never get an aftermarket radio ever. Again,
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it has to
be installed correctly and when you go to purchase it.
You've got to ask how would this affect the functionality
of the rest of the vehicle, and is it going
to affect the functionality this vehicle? Is pretty simple. This
is twenty sixteen. I think about two or three model
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years later when aidos, when automated automatic driver assist systems
are involved, and the radio is an essential part of
that network as well. You know what's going to happen
to the aftermarket radio industry. Are they going to be
limited in the vehicles they can go in? Is it
going to be after market radios for older cars but
not newer cars. It's an interesting conversation to have in
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your head and to think about and to talk about.
In the end, Meredith got her radio, she got her
charging port, she got her USB cables in the back,
she got everything but her USBA up front under the
radio working, and that's where it's going to stay for now.
She's got enough to make her happy. And she was
very thrilled for that. And she was kind of surprised
to hear that the ports weren't supposed to be working,
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and the radio guy was kind of surprised to hear
that they were. And I said, you know sometimes when
you get involved in order repair, it's it's what you
don't know that's going to hurt you. It's and you
don't know what you know until you get there. I
always think of what Stevie Etherton from Opus always says,
you don't know what you don't know, and it's the
absolute truth. Be careful what you do with your radios,
and if you do have them changed, ask ahead, hey,
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is this going to affect anything else? See what kind
of answer you get and it may make you double
think the question. I'm running any in the car doctor,
I'll be back right after this. Don't go away.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
When you get keep Ron's number handy eight five five
five six zero nine nine zero zero for when you
really need advice on your car.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Here's Rob.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Hey, let's get over to Pennsylvania and welcome Brian Beck
and see what's going on with this on nine ref
for Brian, where do we stand this week? Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You asked me to make sure then blow them out
or work and it works. The center console where he
where you do all your it's not manual. It's all
digital controls there, okay, and there's no power to that
and the blower motor works.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Works when you mon Law.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Seems to think it's going to be this five by
five inch square box. It's down by the gas pedal
and ac amplifier moledule. But okay, don't I don't know
how to check that. Well, very specific. It has to
be color coded orange and it has to have specific
numbers on it. Forward to work and tried to find one,
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but couldn't find one.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Right before we go that route. So when you're saying
the blower motor works, you applied power and ground to
the blower motor and it turns on.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Me.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I know he checked it with the meter.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, did he actually hear the blower motor run?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I don't know. I didn't ask him that.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Okay, I want to hear the blower motor run. I
listen I'm doing I'm doing a third party diagnosis on
a radio show from three states away. I want specific things.
I don't want to make I listen. I just don't
want to make the smoke come out. You know they're
smoking every electronic component, and I want to be the
guy that gets you to bring it out. Okay, And
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this is this This was a fourth cylinder or six
cylinder and this is an automatic AC system, not a
manual AC system.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay? Does he own a does he own a scan tool?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Okay, So if he can do in by year making modul,
it's a halfway decent tool. He should be able to
look at and see inputs. You know what is there?
A request for a blower is a request for AC.
He should be able to see command AC Amplifiers are
not an uncommon failure. They're not the most common failure
in the world. Resistors generally go bad before that. So
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i'd want to go through the resistor block. And hopefully
he's doing this with a wiring diagram. He's got a
wiring diagram in front of him, Brian when he's doing this,
or we're just poking and hoping.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I'll be with them the next time here, so I'll check.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
All right, If you guys need a wiring diagram, If
you need a wiring diagram, shogram a right, shoot me
an email, send me the seventeen digit VIN of the
vehicle ron at cardoctorshow dot com and I'll be glad
to send you a wiring diagram. So we're all on
the same page. Okay, all right, I'm not trying to
be a jerk. I'm just very fussy when it comes
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to diagnosed and electrical I want to know exact things.
All right, there's there's one little thing and that's what
it was, right, Yeah, it's you know, so just because listen,
I can put a meter right.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Limited edition all will drive.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, it's it's probably automatic. It's probably an automatic AC
and it's probably a V six. I can't tell you
how many times in my career, in the early stages,
until I learned the lesson, I'd hook a meter up
to something and the meter would power up. All right,
But yet it was a bad signal because I don't
you know, I can have the conversation with you. If
it's a sixteen strand wire and fifteen strands of copper
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are broken, Am I going to see voltage on the meter? Sure,
am right, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna flow
any I'm not going to flow any current. So you know,
I want to test that blower motor a couple of
different ways, you know. I want to know did we
just turn it on, and did we apply power to
the blower motor? Power and ground? Did we apply power?
Did we verify ground. You know, did we put a
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meter across the point of contact where the blower motor
connects and he saw power on the meter, but you
know nothing else. I got a bunch of questions. So
but like I said, you send me. You send me
the vin on at cardoctorshow dot com. Just remind me
who you are and I'll be glad to find your
wiring diagram and email it to you to give you
guys something to look at. All.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Right, okay, you were talking about like a couple of
different boxes. Would that shows how many fuseboxes there are
on there? Oh yeah, he said, he checked all the
modules and right.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Well, and I'm not knocked. I'm not knocking him. If
he's doing this without a wiring diagram, he's a braver
man than me. I you know, I believe me. You know,
it's it's it's I'm down to the point now. When
I was working on that Jeep and they told me
that I think it was fuse one oh three powered
the USB powered the cigarette lighter, the one that I
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was able to get to work. I wasn't happy until
I pulled that fuse out and checked for power. So
it was gone. Put the fuse back in, so the
power was there, proving my wiring diagram was right for
the vehicle, because just because they say, hey, here's the
one for this vehicle, it's not right until you prove it.
And I've run across that a half a dozen times
in my lifetime. So Brian, call me, let me know
when you need more. We'll kind of take it from there.
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Eight five to five five six zero nine nine zero
zero running any of the car doctor. We are back
right after this.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Don't go away look back.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm running in the car docker A five five five
six zero nine nine zero zero. Brian again, different Brian,
Brian Ohio, not Brian Pennsylvania. Brian Ohio. How are you, Brian,
Welcome to the car dockor what's going on?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Well? Day, how you're going?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Good sir? What can I do for you?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
You were talking last week aboutance our electrical grid and
having stresses on it as we start to devolve towards
Purity V vehicles. I'm starting up a set of solar
farms and starting to run across some of the bumps
in the road, and anybody is starting up a type
of energy something like that is going to have to
do more creativity. Actually, one of the things you run
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across is the lobbyists are nudging farmers along and you
hear them complain about wasting farm space, and I actually
kind of agree with that a little bit. One of
the things we're looking at doing is we're working putting
things underneath our buildings warehouses, offices, apartments, vertical farms that
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allows you to sell directly underneath. Then you don't have
to deal with another big obstacle trying and connect to
the grid and the deliberate delays that are set up
to take years for quite a few years of increasing
to get attached to it. So what we're doing is
we're end up buying a gently used farm from a
company that expanded their warehouse into their field, so they
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had a grador stuff and we got theirs for decent
price tag. We're currently rounding up investors right now, so
you're gonna run across more folks like us. We're do
you mind if I toss to a quick web to
side out ahead? All right? Five x roisolarfarm dot com.
Let's get ask five x ROI solarfarm dot com where
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we can give investors. You know, this is our first
project where we can do multiple soar farms and we're
looking to start the MV company as we run this along.
So we're giving investors a nice little strong punch to
get going and for them to be interested in working
with us on future projects. And that's the type of
creativity is going to be needed to create more solar
farms like this across the US. I mean, we need
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a lot of competition because we're gonna be eating a
lot of power and stressing grid and if we don't
put up on smaller grids and alternatives, we are going
to look at some major problems. I mean, we've looked
infrastructure problems like our bridges are rooting out from under
exist in bad ways. Are what's grid?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Brian? Are you there?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Here? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Okay, now you cut out. So let me ask you
this question. You're you're you're getting into this. You know,
as as a solar farmer, do you have do you
have the numbers on what do they expect? How many
how many is it acres or output of solar farm?
How much do we need for the projected ev UH
population we're supposed to have in twelve years?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
That that is an ugly number that really needs to
be looked at more seriously because you know, you're trying
to look at real estic production numbers, and of course
every area in the US is going to have its
different amount of the shadiness and sudden you're going to
have different efficiency off of the panels. Thankfully, there is
a major increases popping up, so you're seeing some things
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that we're going to make make it more cost effective.
But just like everything else, the more research and generation
that goes along, I mean, look at cell phones, the
more they've been going along in mass production, they've been
able to tinker more and tweak more out of them.
The battery life has been phenomenal for the increase, sure,
but in all the same thing happens.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
In all fairness, cell phones have been around since the
mid eighties, right, that's forty years ago. They're talking the
ev revolution is going to happen in twelve years.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
We can kind of say the same thing with sore, you.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Know, so let me ask you this question. So what
you're saying is so solar farms. Are you're turning farms
that produce food into solar farms or they're working together
and doing the same thing.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Well, I'm working at abandoned lands and land for sale
and then converting it back over into active use, not
just for the farms, but putting things underneath it so
you can actually put jobs back out.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
When you say when you say things underneath it, things underneath?
What underneath the panels or underneath the I lost you there.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Underneath the panels on it like what farm itself. So
if you're looking at apartments, warehouses, manufacturing actual vertical farms,
I mean you can put about anything underneath. You just
need to make certain your structure can support the road
and the wind that knocks it around at the same time.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Gotcha, how's availability of material to build a solar panel.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Right now? It's a stream irony that for one of
the most populous elements we have, we don't have a
lot of purification. And that's one of the things we're
looking to jump into as well. Because it's not major
rocket science. It's some chemistry that's got a lot of
evolution in it and got a room for a lot
of room for things have not really been tried very much.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
So are you saying so in other words, if you
wanted to, I don't know how big is your solar
farm going to be. Let me ask the question this way.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
How many acress our Phase one is four hundred panels? Okay,
it's not that giant, that's not that small.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So so a thousand, a thousand will produce how much
I'm sorry, all right? And that will power how many vehicles?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
That's a good question, because you know all the vehicles
are in charge of different times and h But the
point of it is that we need to spread this
out and spread out the the impact on the overall grid,
and the more we spread this out across the United States,
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better off all of us are.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Well, my question is, so I go back to my
original question. Listen, I'm not trying to I'm not knocking
what you're doing. I understand what you're doing. I'm just
trying to add the numbers up, all right. I have
no I have no emotion or skin in this game,
all right, because I think that if science can take
over and make evs work, great. If they can't, I
think we're wasting our time. And that's all I'm trying
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to look at. If you, if you wanted to go
out and build your solar farm today, how long would
it take and what's the projected cost. Can you get
the material you need to build those panels and you're
just one farm, and then extrapolate that over how many
thousands of farms do we need? And what is the
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percentage of electricity they're going to produce to offset the
demand of evs? And those are the numbers I want
to know. If I was investing, Brian, that'd be the
first question i'd ask you.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
The joking comment I've heard over the years is that
if you covered most of Iowa, that would cover the
entire United States. But there has been major increases in
sore panel efficiency, so we're looking at shrinking that need.
I will be very honest that I've been drinking more
numbers forgetting to be the starting and running I have
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for it. But that is a good number I do
need to put in my head for how many vehicles
we can cover over our time frame.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, vehicles are electricity in general? Listen right now? The
grid you know. Look, I live here too, and my
observation is the electrical grid in so many states Texas
and a few others among them California, there's not enough
electric grid to cover what they've got now with the
heat load demands, for ac and so forth, and severe
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weather in summer weather, how are we going to add
a lot? And I can't get an answer from anybody.
I'm not picking on you or anybody else, but you know,
this is like saying, hey, I want to be seventeen again. Great,
you know, show me the math, show me how it's
gonna work, and nobody can you know.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So what particular question are you trying to get out again?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Just with regards to what's the kill a lot hours
of your farm gonna be? Can I get material? What's
the cost for that? And then what's the cost of that?
And then we're going to go all right? Have we
talked about nuclear right? What's wrong with the nuclear power
plant equation?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And that's I would love were to be more on point,
but unfortunately we've had government and companies allowed to get
very sloppy with things. If you look at Paduki, Kentucky,
they got really really sloppy with work of protection. If
you go along the Ohio Valley, Ohio River Valley, there's
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just so much pollution from the nuclear industry that we
need a lot more oversight. Like Zimmer was one power
plant that was being permitted in Cincinnati as well as
Marble Hills further down the river in Indiana. Both of
those had undocumented welds, undocumented work. If you had sloppy
they started watering down concrete and misspecking steel. Both of
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those plants and many more. There's like forty of those
across the United States that were never spun up because
there were just they allowed corruption to kill the projects
actual oversite.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Well, right now, do you think that oversight should come
from the government or an outside company?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Come both? I thinks be government and civilian review.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
We got to leave it there, Brian listen, I enjoyed.
I enjoyed this talk. You call me back. We'll do
a full length interview. How's that sounds like a good
play anytime, brother, Good luck in your endeavor. You're very welcome.
I'm running any in the car. Doctor, We're back right
after this. Welcome back, running the card actor. Let's get
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over to David and Maine. David fifteen Chevy Silverado pickup.
What's going on? David? How can I help? Yeah, yes, sir,
but you good? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Well? I get this noise in my ray end of
my truck, and nobody can seem to figure out what
it is. One guy says, it's my ray end. It
can be fixed. Another mechanic says that your rear wheels,
it can be fixed. Somebody else says it's my shocks.
I had my shocks checked out and there was nothing
wrong with them. I got thirty four thousand miles on
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this thirteen Silverado. It's in excellent shape. I like it.
Four wheel drive, but the noise is driving me crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Four wheel drive.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Might I go around a corner or take a little
dip or something like this? I hear this clunk, clu bump.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Four wheel drive, David, Is it a four wheel drive?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Okay, so is this? Are you more likely to hear
this going slow? You know down the road seven eight
ten miles an hour or is this thirty five forty
miles an hour?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Only hitting bumps once in a while a bump, but
it's mostly when I turn a corner, and I mean
a shop corner, Like when I come into my driveway.
I got a little thank you mum because of the
ditch which is tired. But when I do that, come
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into my driveway, I got to turn and go over
with a little hump, and I always get that clunk
clunk and it's been going on for a long time.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
And what's a long what's a long time, David, I.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Have a good memory, so all five or six years.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Okay, so it's been going on.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Almost got the truck. Nothing right After three or four years,
I started to hear this and I took it back
to the Chivalet dealership and they didn't have a go
what the hell? It was right, And it's just got
worse and worse and worse. It don't seem to bother
or anything, but I get this noise now. I'm getting
it once in a while when I come to a stop. Okay,
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I'll hear this noise.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
All right, I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Well, I thought, go ahead, what's that?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You know there is a there is a campaign going
on for clunking noises from the rear of the vehicle
with regards to the leaf springs. Does anybody talk to
you about that?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yes, yes they have. I've had the leaf springs checked out.
They said they were all right. Well, but that was
three four years ago, but nothing's changed. Well when they
had the noise four then I got the noise now.
But yeah, I know there was an issue going on
with a leaf springs, so I can have them checked out.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
When they when you say they were checked out, David,
listen to me, because I've only got two minutes. When
when they when you say, when you say it was
checked out, what did they do? Did they look at them?
Did they follow the bulletin as anybody actually read the bulletin?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I don't know. I took it into the dealership and.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
They just right because you can. You can look at
the leaf springs all day long. They don't look bad,
they don't look wrong. It's a it's a matter of
retworking and reseating the clam bolts of the rear end
against the leaf spring. If they don't follow the bulletin
just looking at it, you'll never see it. All right,
it's this is it's a minute detail. Do you got
a pencil and paper? Yeah, okay, I'm gonna give you
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a bulletin number. I want you to get your hands
on this bulletin, read it, and then make the dealer
read it and follow it. All right, Let's eliminate. Let's
eliminate something. Bullet to number nine show three DHO nine
double zero one G is in George Clunking Noise rear
a vehicle from leaf spring bolts, and they talk about
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retrking the real leaf.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Double zero one G.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Double O one g g g g is and George, yes, sir,
all right, let's follow that and let's see what that
does for you. The other possibility, you know, I would,
I would go through body mounts. I would go through
I would go through where the bed sits on the frame,
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just making sure the bolts are tight. It amazes me
and floors me how guys will look for something so obvious.
They're not. They're looking for a pimple on a fly's
butt in some cases. And the last thing I want
to mention is is it possible the rear end oil?
And I don't think it's going to be this, but
I just want to mention it. Is it possible the
rear axle oil was contaminated from water. It's not working properly,
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and it's causing something in the rear to chatter. Just
food for thought. But I would start with looking at
those leaf springs, making sure that bulletin is done. Tell
me what's good. I'll tell you what's bad. Call me back,
let me know what happens. I'm ronning any in the car.
Doctor I'll be back right after this. Welcome back running
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in the card doctor. Let's do an email from Aaron Ron.
I've got a twenty twenty one f five point fifty
for truck with a six point seven power stroke. It
just turned thirty six hundred and thirty five miles. You know, Aaron,
that kind of scares me. It's one hundred and thirty
five miles out of warranty. I bet this is going
to be a doozy. Over the past six months, the
fan clutch has increasingly been cycling on for a longer
and longer period of time. The first time I called
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the dealership about it, it was two minutes on, two
minutes off. There was no service engine lighting on on
the desk. They found no code or bulletins. The second time,
about three weeks ago, the cycling has become four to
five minutes on and thirty to fifty seconds off. This
last week, I did a forty five minute run down
the highway at sixty five seventy degree outside temp and
the fan clutch never disengage. The dealership says it's the clutch.
I'm saying it's either a censor or a computer. What
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do you think? And how do I hold the technician's
hand and point them in the right direction for a
proper diagnosis. I don't know that you need to, Eric,
as far as I'm concerned, and I think this problem's
been going on for a while. I think this is
the email I saw where you were describing this or no,
this was the phone call that I didn't get today.
This problem's been going on. This started under warranty. So
your question to them is will a fan clutch fix it?
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And if a fan clutch doesn't fix it, then what
are you going to do? And where are you going
to look? That is an electro viscous fan coupling, all right.
They look at fan speed sensor, they look at engine temperature,
and then the computer provides a pulse with a varied
voltage signal to apply and turn the fan clutch on
to allow that vehicle to operate. I think the only
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way you can hold that technician's hand is to ask
them how to as it were, and he can get
that information clearly out of Ford. I could find that
information if I had to, but just be aware that
it's all there. I'm ronning Ady and the car doctor
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How appropriate that Tom used a little bit of star
Trek and are open today. And we didn't collude on this.
It just kind of worked out like that because I
told him just minutes before the show, I said, he
asked me about a vehicle I was talking to him
about in the middle of the week, and he said,
how'd you make out? And I said, you know, it's
kind of like when Scotty would have to give Kirk
warp drive but he couldn't give him impulse. And Kirk
(01:40):
was happy with that because I got him home. Because
that's sort of the story of this Jeep twenty sixteen
Jeep Grand Cherokee came into the shop at our Automotive
this week, new customer, and man, I feel old because
the owner is the niece of a woman I went
to high school with. How do you like them? Apples?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Small world. I looked at the last name and I said, jeez,
I know this name. I said, you're not really Oh yeah,
that's my aunt. Oh good good. Now I really feel old.
So kid's probably twenty two years old, and I'm thinking, Wow.
So anyway, jeep's a jeep. Vehicle's a vehicle, jobs a job.
The problem was Meredith's jeep in the front of a
(02:19):
jeep radio right below it in the little cubby, they
have what they call a media center. It's got a USBC,
a USBA, and a different type of port, just the
data transfer a port if you want to put a
memory card in. I think it was for and then
it's got a cigarette lighter next to it, and that
all interconnects and interfaces up to the radio. Well, about
(02:40):
eight months ago, Meredith had the radio taken out and
had an aftermarket radio put in, an Apple iPlayer car
Play radio, whatever the heck it is, you know, And
this is my argument against I really worry about after
market radio installs. I'm not condemning the entire industry, but
I think it has to be done right, and it
has to be done so that it interfaces and work
with the rest of the systems on the vehicle, because
(03:01):
the radio, as Meredith found out, is an essential part
of the system. It interconnects everything. When I did an
initial scan because I was trying to get the problem. Okay, wait,
back up. The problem with this was the cigarette lighter
power port stopped working, the US beat ports stopped working,
(03:22):
and the power supply power ports in the console, underneath
the console and in the very back that would face
the passengers in the second seat stopped working. Boy, there's
an awful lot to talk about here. I scanned it
for codes. Why why would I hook a scan tool
up to a car that had no check engine light on?
Because there's still other computers and modules on this vehicle.
(03:45):
There's still systems that need to be checked. And sure
enough it came up with lack of communication to the radio,
which I expected the radio was gone, but it also
told me that the install was done badly because there's
no communication interface as prescribed and that could affect future
your functionality of the system, future software updates of the system.
(04:05):
You know, you can't just take a radio out like that.
I don't think it's a safe and smart move. It's
creating issues, as you're going to hear about in a minute.
I went and I looked at this, and I said,
what's working? What's not?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
So?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I have a data port connector, it's a it's a
known good cigarette lighter plug that I use it. It's
a female and a male side. I also have some
USB c and A cables that I can plug in
known good, known good quality, known good stuff. You know,
we use it around the shop for testing purposes and
(04:38):
it works. So the first thing I did was just
plug into every port. And as it turns out, I
could get the rear data ports facing the passenger seat
to the rear of the vehicle. They were working, and
the cigarette lighter did not, but the power port inside
the console did, so I'm sorry, Yeah, the serare lighter
(05:02):
did not. So, you know, I'm kind of backtracking and
I'm saying, why does Marath say this doesn't None of
this works? And then I looked at the little She
had a plugin adapter all right, you know, like a
cigarette lighter adapter where one side plugs into the cigarette lighter.
It's that it's that mail side, and then the other
(05:22):
side was just a USBA, that traditional rectangular USB port
that we're so used to seeing that the cable would
plug into. Problem number one solved the marror. This adapter
was no good. It didn't work anymore. I would plug
that into the other two data ports or other two
power ports, couldn't get any voltage out of it. It
didn't work, but yet my stuff did so right off
(05:44):
the bat, I solved half the problem in about three
minutes because known good right. Sometimes you need known good
and sometimes it's easier. You can't always do it in
the case of if it's a computer, but if it's
a USB cable, always go for the obvious. That took
out half the equation. In looking at the wiring diagrams,
they all came down to either ground nine twelve or
nine eleven. Nine to twelve I've proved good because I
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knew the data port at the rear of the vehicle
was working once I used my own plug in cables,
so that took that out of the equation. And then
nine to eleven. I knew the ground was good because
nine to eleven was the ground for the console power
port under the cover that was working, and I had
power there. I tested it. I had power and ground,
so I knew nine to eleven was good. It went
back to a common point. I went through fuses and
(06:32):
it was interesting typical jeep set up for fuses in
the PDC the power distribution center, there was close to
one hundred fuse choices of varying sizes and shapes, which
sort of blew my customer's mind. She was really shocked
and surprised to see that. And I said, oh, this
is only one fuse box. The vehicle should have two.
(06:54):
And I've seen vehicles with three and four fuse boxes.
You know, there was nothing simple about fuses anymore. It's
not oh, just plug a fuse in. Good. You tell
me which one out of the four hundred possible, and
I'll plug it in. All right, So I went through fuses,
fuses were all good. I got down to g do
I have power coming down to the cigarette lighter? Because
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I wanted to fix that first. Do I have power
coming down to the cigarette lighter? In the back at
the base of the console, so, you know, before I
went further, I looked at wiring and I traced it
and it came down. There's what they call an IP
two connector in the right side kick panel. It sits
(07:36):
in the right real well kind of in the area
where your foot lay, and that is the power distribution
point where it comes in from the front. Off the
power distribution center comes down the A pillar sneaks under
the carpet and gets over to the cigarette lighter over
in the center console. Gee, you know, should I go
over here? You know there's there's been documented cases where
(07:57):
if the sun roof leaks water, if the carpet is wet,
that connector gets wet and it creates allse sort of
electrical issues. But the carpet was dry, so I went
the other way. I pulled the side strip off the
console and shoved my hand up behind the console, felt
the connector at the cigarette lighter while watching my plugin
tool to see if I would have power. And as
(08:18):
soon as I wiggled the connector at the cigarette lighter, boom,
power came up. I now had power and ground at
that and the cigarette lighter worked. I was able to
get that to charge. The USB cables were a little
bit more involved. The USB connectors CNA were my focus
because she didn't use the large data transfer like a
memory card slot. She didn't use that, and she wasn't
(08:39):
too worried about it. And what I discovered was in
looking at wiring, those two USB ports go directly through
in two the radio, so they have to be connected
that way. They didn't. They don't work. So now you know,
I talked to Meredith and she said, you know, she said,
you've got me three quarters of the way there. I said, well,
(09:02):
the next step is I'd have to take the radio
out and see how it's wired. And I pulled the
face plate off. You know, I it's it's really amazing.
You know, you've got to work on these cars as
if somebody is going to see it, because somebody did
see it. And I saw the wiring mess how things
were just sort of shoved in there, very unneatly, very unprofessionally,
without any care or concern. And I explained that to her,
(09:24):
and I said, you know, it's working. Do you want
me to go further. I'll have to unwire the radio
and wire it back and make it neat and no,
so we kind of stopped. It's you know, she had
she had warp drive. She wasn't interested in impulse power.
She had a charge port, she had the data ports
to the rear. She emailed the guy that did the radio.
This is the best story. This is the best part
of the story. She emailed the guy that did the
(09:46):
radio when he said, well that USB and USC port
shouldn't work anyway, because I disconnected and when I did
the radio, and the one that should work is the
black cable coming off the side that's hanging down to
the right, which there was a USB a receptacal cable
just dangling off the right side, which I took and
put up under the console and I actually put it
into a way that she could use it through the
(10:06):
center console now not have to reach around. And she
said why, she asked me. Mareth said to me, she said,
why is you know, why is this like this? She
said why? What happened? And to what? And I said,
you know, the problem is it was done badly. It
was done badly, and it's done wrong. I can't communicate
(10:29):
with the radio. The radio is now eliminated from the
diagnostic and I have to work around that. And the
only way I can do this is by pintesting individual wires,
power and grounds and signal at the base or at
the back of the radio. And I come back to
my original opening comment with you that radios are just
an integral part of the vehicle today. And I'm not
(10:49):
saying you can never get an aftermarket radio ever. Again,
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it has to
be installed correctly and when you go to purchase it.
You've got to ask how would this affect the functionality
of the rest of the vehicle, and is it going
to affect the functionality this vehicle? Is pretty simple. This
is twenty sixteen. I think about two or three model
(11:09):
years later when aidos, when automated automatic driver assist systems
are involved, and the radio is an essential part of
that network as well. You know what's going to happen
to the aftermarket radio industry. Are they going to be
limited in the vehicles they can go in? Is it
going to be after market radios for older cars but
not newer cars. It's an interesting conversation to have in
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your head and to think about and to talk about.
In the end, Meredith got her radio, she got her
charging port, she got her USB cables in the back,
she got everything but her USBA up front under the
radio working, and that's where it's going to stay for now.
She's got enough to make her happy. And she was
very thrilled for that. And she was kind of surprised
to hear that the ports weren't supposed to be working,
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and the radio guy was kind of surprised to hear
that they were. And I said, you know sometimes when
you get involved in order repair, it's it's what you
don't know that's going to hurt you. It's and you
don't know what you know until you get there. I
always think of what Stevie Etherton from Opus always says,
you don't know what you don't know, and it's the
absolute truth. Be careful what you do with your radios,
and if you do have them changed, ask ahead, hey,
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is this going to affect anything else? See what kind
of answer you get and it may make you double
think the question. I'm running any in the car doctor,
I'll be back right after this. Don't go away.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
When you get keep Ron's number handy eight five five
five six zero nine nine zero zero for when you
really need advice on your car.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Here's Rob.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Hey, let's get over to Pennsylvania and welcome Brian Beck
and see what's going on with this on nine ref
for Brian, where do we stand this week? Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
You asked me to make sure then blow them out
or work and it works. The center console where he
where you do all your it's not manual. It's all
digital controls there, okay, and there's no power to that
and the blower motor works.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Works when you mon Law.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Seems to think it's going to be this five by
five inch square box. It's down by the gas pedal
and ac amplifier moledule. But okay, don't I don't know
how to check that. Well, very specific. It has to
be color coded orange and it has to have specific
numbers on it. Forward to work and tried to find one,
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but couldn't find one.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Right before we go that route. So when you're saying
the blower motor works, you applied power and ground to
the blower motor and it turns on.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Me.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I know he checked it with the meter.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay, did he actually hear the blower motor run?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I don't know. I didn't ask him that.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Okay, I want to hear the blower motor run. I
listen I'm doing I'm doing a third party diagnosis on
a radio show from three states away. I want specific things.
I don't want to make I listen. I just don't
want to make the smoke come out. You know they're
smoking every electronic component, and I want to be the
guy that gets you to bring it out. Okay, And
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this is this This was a fourth cylinder or six
cylinder and this is an automatic AC system, not a
manual AC system.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay? Does he own a does he own a scan tool?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I think so?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Okay, So if he can do in by year making modul,
it's a halfway decent tool. He should be able to
look at and see inputs. You know what is there?
A request for a blower is a request for AC.
He should be able to see command AC Amplifiers are
not an uncommon failure. They're not the most common failure
in the world. Resistors generally go bad before that. So
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i'd want to go through the resistor block. And hopefully
he's doing this with a wiring diagram. He's got a
wiring diagram in front of him, Brian when he's doing this,
or we're just poking and hoping.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I'll be with them the next time here, so I'll check.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
All right, If you guys need a wiring diagram, If
you need a wiring diagram, shogram a right, shoot me
an email, send me the seventeen digit VIN of the
vehicle ron at cardoctorshow dot com and I'll be glad
to send you a wiring diagram. So we're all on
the same page. Okay, all right, I'm not trying to
be a jerk. I'm just very fussy when it comes
(15:48):
to diagnosed and electrical I want to know exact things.
All right, there's there's one little thing and that's what
it was, right, Yeah, it's you know, so just because listen,
I can put a meter right.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Limited edition all will drive.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, it's it's probably automatic. It's probably an automatic AC
and it's probably a V six. I can't tell you
how many times in my career, in the early stages,
until I learned the lesson, I'd hook a meter up
to something and the meter would power up. All right,
But yet it was a bad signal because I don't
you know, I can have the conversation with you. If
it's a sixteen strand wire and fifteen strands of copper
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are broken, Am I going to see voltage on the meter? Sure,
am right, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna flow
any I'm not going to flow any current. So you know,
I want to test that blower motor a couple of
different ways, you know. I want to know did we
just turn it on, and did we apply power to
the blower motor? Power and ground? Did we apply power?
Did we verify ground. You know, did we put a
(16:47):
meter across the point of contact where the blower motor
connects and he saw power on the meter, but you
know nothing else. I got a bunch of questions. So
but like I said, you send me. You send me
the vin on at cardoctorshow dot com. Just remind me
who you are and I'll be glad to find your
wiring diagram and email it to you to give you
guys something to look at. All.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Right, okay, you were talking about like a couple of
different boxes. Would that shows how many fuseboxes there are
on there? Oh yeah, he said, he checked all the
modules and right.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Well, and I'm not knocked. I'm not knocking him. If
he's doing this without a wiring diagram, he's a braver
man than me. I you know, I believe me. You know,
it's it's it's I'm down to the point now. When
I was working on that Jeep and they told me
that I think it was fuse one oh three powered
the USB powered the cigarette lighter, the one that I
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was able to get to work. I wasn't happy until
I pulled that fuse out and checked for power. So
it was gone. Put the fuse back in, so the
power was there, proving my wiring diagram was right for
the vehicle, because just because they say, hey, here's the
one for this vehicle, it's not right until you prove it.
And I've run across that a half a dozen times
in my lifetime. So Brian, call me, let me know
when you need more. We'll kind of take it from there.
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right after this.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Don't go away look back.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'm running in the car docker A five five five
six zero nine nine zero zero. Brian again, different Brian,
Brian Ohio, not Brian Pennsylvania. Brian Ohio. How are you, Brian,
Welcome to the car dockor what's going on?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Well? Day, how you're going?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Good sir? What can I do for you?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
You were talking last week aboutance our electrical grid and
having stresses on it as we start to devolve towards
Purity V vehicles. I'm starting up a set of solar
farms and starting to run across some of the bumps
in the road, and anybody is starting up a type
of energy something like that is going to have to
do more creativity. Actually, one of the things you run
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across is the lobbyists are nudging farmers along and you
hear them complain about wasting farm space, and I actually
kind of agree with that a little bit. One of
the things we're looking at doing is we're working putting
things underneath our buildings warehouses, offices, apartments, vertical farms that
(19:41):
allows you to sell directly underneath. Then you don't have
to deal with another big obstacle trying and connect to
the grid and the deliberate delays that are set up
to take years for quite a few years of increasing
to get attached to it. So what we're doing is
we're end up buying a gently used farm from a
company that expanded their warehouse into their field, so they
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had a grador stuff and we got theirs for decent
price tag. We're currently rounding up investors right now, so
you're gonna run across more folks like us. We're do
you mind if I toss to a quick web to
side out ahead? All right? Five x roisolarfarm dot com.
Let's get ask five x ROI solarfarm dot com where
(20:25):
we can give investors. You know, this is our first
project where we can do multiple soar farms and we're
looking to start the MV company as we run this along.
So we're giving investors a nice little strong punch to
get going and for them to be interested in working
with us on future projects. And that's the type of
creativity is going to be needed to create more solar
farms like this across the US. I mean, we need
(20:47):
a lot of competition because we're gonna be eating a
lot of power and stressing grid and if we don't
put up on smaller grids and alternatives, we are going
to look at some major problems. I mean, we've looked
infrastructure problems like our bridges are rooting out from under
exist in bad ways. Are what's grid?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Brian? Are you there?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Here? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Okay, now you cut out. So let me ask you
this question. You're you're you're getting into this. You know,
as as a solar farmer, do you have do you
have the numbers on what do they expect? How many
how many is it acres or output of solar farm?
How much do we need for the projected ev UH
population we're supposed to have in twelve years?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
That that is an ugly number that really needs to
be looked at more seriously because you know, you're trying
to look at real estic production numbers, and of course
every area in the US is going to have its
different amount of the shadiness and sudden you're going to
have different efficiency off of the panels. Thankfully, there is
a major increases popping up, so you're seeing some things
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that we're going to make make it more cost effective.
But just like everything else, the more research and generation
that goes along, I mean, look at cell phones, the
more they've been going along in mass production, they've been
able to tinker more and tweak more out of them.
The battery life has been phenomenal for the increase, sure,
but in all the same thing happens.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
In all fairness, cell phones have been around since the
mid eighties, right, that's forty years ago. They're talking the
ev revolution is going to happen in twelve years.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
We can kind of say the same thing with sore, you.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Know, so let me ask you this question. So what
you're saying is so solar farms. Are you're turning farms
that produce food into solar farms or they're working together
and doing the same thing.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Well, I'm working at abandoned lands and land for sale
and then converting it back over into active use, not
just for the farms, but putting things underneath it so
you can actually put jobs back out.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
When you say when you say things underneath it, things underneath?
What underneath the panels or underneath the I lost you there.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Underneath the panels on it like what farm itself. So
if you're looking at apartments, warehouses, manufacturing actual vertical farms,
I mean you can put about anything underneath. You just
need to make certain your structure can support the road
and the wind that knocks it around at the same time.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Gotcha, how's availability of material to build a solar panel.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Right now? It's a stream irony that for one of
the most populous elements we have, we don't have a
lot of purification. And that's one of the things we're
looking to jump into as well. Because it's not major
rocket science. It's some chemistry that's got a lot of
evolution in it and got a room for a lot
of room for things have not really been tried very much.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
So are you saying so in other words, if you
wanted to, I don't know how big is your solar
farm going to be. Let me ask the question this way.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
How many acress our Phase one is four hundred panels? Okay,
it's not that giant, that's not that small.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So so a thousand, a thousand will produce how much
I'm sorry, all right? And that will power how many vehicles?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
That's a good question, because you know all the vehicles
are in charge of different times and h But the
point of it is that we need to spread this
out and spread out the the impact on the overall grid,
and the more we spread this out across the United States,
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better off all of us are.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Well, my question is, so I go back to my
original question. Listen, I'm not trying to I'm not knocking
what you're doing. I understand what you're doing. I'm just
trying to add the numbers up, all right. I have
no I have no emotion or skin in this game,
all right, because I think that if science can take
over and make evs work, great. If they can't, I
think we're wasting our time. And that's all I'm trying
(24:59):
to look at. If you, if you wanted to go
out and build your solar farm today, how long would
it take and what's the projected cost. Can you get
the material you need to build those panels and you're
just one farm, and then extrapolate that over how many
thousands of farms do we need? And what is the
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percentage of electricity they're going to produce to offset the
demand of evs? And those are the numbers I want
to know. If I was investing, Brian, that'd be the
first question i'd ask you.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
The joking comment I've heard over the years is that
if you covered most of Iowa, that would cover the
entire United States. But there has been major increases in
sore panel efficiency, so we're looking at shrinking that need.
I will be very honest that I've been drinking more
numbers forgetting to be the starting and running I have
(25:53):
for it. But that is a good number I do
need to put in my head for how many vehicles
we can cover over our time frame.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, vehicles are electricity in general? Listen right now? The
grid you know. Look, I live here too, and my
observation is the electrical grid in so many states Texas
and a few others among them California, there's not enough
electric grid to cover what they've got now with the
heat load demands, for ac and so forth, and severe
(26:22):
weather in summer weather, how are we going to add
a lot? And I can't get an answer from anybody.
I'm not picking on you or anybody else, but you know,
this is like saying, hey, I want to be seventeen again. Great,
you know, show me the math, show me how it's
gonna work, and nobody can you know.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So what particular question are you trying to get out again?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Just with regards to what's the kill a lot hours
of your farm gonna be? Can I get material? What's
the cost for that? And then what's the cost of that?
And then we're going to go all right? Have we
talked about nuclear right? What's wrong with the nuclear power
plant equation?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And that's I would love were to be more on point,
but unfortunately we've had government and companies allowed to get
very sloppy with things. If you look at Paduki, Kentucky,
they got really really sloppy with work of protection. If
you go along the Ohio Valley, Ohio River Valley, there's
(27:20):
just so much pollution from the nuclear industry that we
need a lot more oversight. Like Zimmer was one power
plant that was being permitted in Cincinnati as well as
Marble Hills further down the river in Indiana. Both of
those had undocumented welds, undocumented work. If you had sloppy
they started watering down concrete and misspecking steel. Both of
(27:41):
those plants and many more. There's like forty of those
across the United States that were never spun up because
there were just they allowed corruption to kill the projects
actual oversite.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Well, right now, do you think that oversight should come
from the government or an outside company?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Come both? I thinks be government and civilian review.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
We got to leave it there, Brian listen, I enjoyed.
I enjoyed this talk. You call me back. We'll do
a full length interview. How's that sounds like a good
play anytime, brother, Good luck in your endeavor. You're very welcome.
I'm running any in the car. Doctor, We're back right
after this. Welcome back, running the card actor. Let's get
(28:31):
over to David and Maine. David fifteen Chevy Silverado pickup.
What's going on? David? How can I help? Yeah, yes, sir,
but you good? What's going on?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Well? I get this noise in my ray end of
my truck, and nobody can seem to figure out what
it is. One guy says, it's my ray end. It
can be fixed. Another mechanic says that your rear wheels,
it can be fixed. Somebody else says it's my shocks.
I had my shocks checked out and there was nothing
wrong with them. I got thirty four thousand miles on
(29:04):
this thirteen Silverado. It's in excellent shape. I like it.
Four wheel drive, but the noise is driving me crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Four wheel drive.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Might I go around a corner or take a little
dip or something like this? I hear this clunk, clu bump.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Four wheel drive, David, Is it a four wheel drive?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Okay, so is this? Are you more likely to hear
this going slow? You know down the road seven eight
ten miles an hour or is this thirty five forty
miles an hour?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Only hitting bumps once in a while a bump, but
it's mostly when I turn a corner, and I mean
a shop corner, Like when I come into my driveway.
I got a little thank you mum because of the
ditch which is tired. But when I do that, come
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into my driveway, I got to turn and go over
with a little hump, and I always get that clunk
clunk and it's been going on for a long time.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
And what's a long what's a long time, David, I.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Have a good memory, so all five or six years.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Okay, so it's been going on.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Almost got the truck. Nothing right After three or four years,
I started to hear this and I took it back
to the Chivalet dealership and they didn't have a go
what the hell? It was right, And it's just got
worse and worse and worse. It don't seem to bother
or anything, but I get this noise now. I'm getting
it once in a while when I come to a stop. Okay,
(30:42):
I'll hear this noise.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
All right, I'm wondering.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Well, I thought, go ahead, what's that?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You know there is a there is a campaign going
on for clunking noises from the rear of the vehicle
with regards to the leaf springs. Does anybody talk to
you about that?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yes, yes they have. I've had the leaf springs checked out.
They said they were all right. Well, but that was
three four years ago, but nothing's changed. Well when they
had the noise four then I got the noise now.
But yeah, I know there was an issue going on
with a leaf springs, so I can have them checked out.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
When they when you say they were checked out, David,
listen to me, because I've only got two minutes. When
when they when you say, when you say it was
checked out, what did they do? Did they look at them?
Did they follow the bulletin as anybody actually read the bulletin?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
I don't know. I took it into the dealership and.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
They just right because you can. You can look at
the leaf springs all day long. They don't look bad,
they don't look wrong. It's a it's a matter of
retworking and reseating the clam bolts of the rear end
against the leaf spring. If they don't follow the bulletin
just looking at it, you'll never see it. All right,
it's this is it's a minute detail. Do you got
a pencil and paper? Yeah, okay, I'm gonna give you
(31:56):
a bulletin number. I want you to get your hands
on this bulletin, read it, and then make the dealer
read it and follow it. All right, Let's eliminate. Let's
eliminate something. Bullet to number nine show three DHO nine
double zero one G is in George Clunking Noise rear
a vehicle from leaf spring bolts, and they talk about
(32:18):
retrking the real leaf.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Double zero one G.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Double O one g g g g is and George, yes, sir,
all right, let's follow that and let's see what that
does for you. The other possibility, you know, I would,
I would go through body mounts. I would go through
I would go through where the bed sits on the frame,
(32:46):
just making sure the bolts are tight. It amazes me
and floors me how guys will look for something so obvious.
They're not. They're looking for a pimple on a fly's
butt in some cases. And the last thing I want
to mention is is it possible the rear end oil?
And I don't think it's going to be this, but
I just want to mention it. Is it possible the
rear axle oil was contaminated from water. It's not working properly,
(33:06):
and it's causing something in the rear to chatter. Just
food for thought. But I would start with looking at
those leaf springs, making sure that bulletin is done. Tell
me what's good. I'll tell you what's bad. Call me back,
let me know what happens. I'm ronning any in the car.
Doctor I'll be back right after this. Welcome back running
(33:34):
in the card doctor. Let's do an email from Aaron Ron.
I've got a twenty twenty one f five point fifty
for truck with a six point seven power stroke. It
just turned thirty six hundred and thirty five miles. You know, Aaron,
that kind of scares me. It's one hundred and thirty
five miles out of warranty. I bet this is going
to be a doozy. Over the past six months, the
fan clutch has increasingly been cycling on for a longer
and longer period of time. The first time I called
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the dealership about it, it was two minutes on, two
minutes off. There was no service engine lighting on on
the desk. They found no code or bulletins. The second time,
about three weeks ago, the cycling has become four to
five minutes on and thirty to fifty seconds off. This
last week, I did a forty five minute run down
the highway at sixty five seventy degree outside temp and
the fan clutch never disengage. The dealership says it's the clutch.
I'm saying it's either a censor or a computer. What
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do you think? And how do I hold the technician's
hand and point them in the right direction for a
proper diagnosis. I don't know that you need to, Eric,
as far as I'm concerned, and I think this problem's
been going on for a while. I think this is
the email I saw where you were describing this or no,
this was the phone call that I didn't get today.
This problem's been going on. This started under warranty. So
your question to them is will a fan clutch fix it?
(34:36):
And if a fan clutch doesn't fix it, then what
are you going to do? And where are you going
to look? That is an electro viscous fan coupling, all right.
They look at fan speed sensor, they look at engine temperature,
and then the computer provides a pulse with a varied
voltage signal to apply and turn the fan clutch on
to allow that vehicle to operate. I think the only
(34:56):
way you can hold that technician's hand is to ask
them how to as it were, and he can get
that information clearly out of Ford. I could find that
information if I had to, but just be aware that
it's all there. I'm ronning Ady and the car doctor
who mechanics are on expensive request let's see you
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