All The Smoke: LeSean McCoy Breaks Down 2025 NFL MVP Race + Untold Locker Room Stories

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Mm hmm. Welcome back, LA Day two.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Uh, we had a good one this morning, and this
dude has been entertaining that since he got here.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Your mic straight, like, yeah, I get it right, you straight. Yeah,
it's a big episode.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Look at it right, Look at you Yeah, yeah, look
at your Solho talk to him.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
We're here, Yeah, we're here to smoke. You know what
I'm saying, Stacks, I man, Matt, you know we're doing
it up. You know what I mean. I'm happy to
be here and I don't even smoke. Am I the
only one that ever smoked? Okay? You good? Okay? How
was life? What's going on? Life is good? Life is good.
Twenty twenty five is my years. Yeah, tell you was
entertaining this bro. You got a whole little plan. But

(01:05):
I like your business.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
You was talking business at the end, Like, what's what's
twenty twenty five mean to you?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
We're gonna talk probably business and stuff and allevors on.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
That, but not just you know what, being a better
person first, and when we say that, but are we
really doing them steps? Be a better father, you know,
be more devoted to my savior, like all these things.
I'll be thinking about because I feel like the only thing
we think about his family and how to get more money, right,
And I think if we do things the right way,
we'll hit all the same avenues, you know, we'll cross

(01:34):
that path.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
So just being all around a better person. Yeah, that's
really it. That what's up too.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm trying to get married soon too, because you got
any ladies out there that you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh, you don't even know where yet.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
You're just looking for some not like a lot, okay,
But what I'm just saying, until until the job is
actually right, I mean, can you find can you find like.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Real love out here in La? It's it's dangerous out here,
the streets is cold. Yeah, yea, yeah, I don't really
La is different. Yes, I probably. I don't think in
l a okay, But I am open for whoever's out there.
That's for me, right. What are some qualities you gotta have?
She gotta have a job. That's the new thing.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I gotta just that's crazy, no, I mean it is
the basting to say that, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
So something going on right?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Just half yeah, like when I come home, tell me
what you did?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Like so that what else characters are like, she, I'll
be I have nice hair. You know I like hair
tall short? Wait does the hair have to be hers?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah? I was just getting that, like to have her hair.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
You guys start background checking these motherfuckers de bros to
these days, making some of them backgrounds just be out
of control.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
But our backgrounds out of control. But but I'm saying, though,
but I don't have to accept that, right, right, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I don't have to accept that now. Now I know
you did your research on me. You questions, I get it,
But I am a psych major. Right, So so the
question you just asked him. I used to be like,
I don't care about her, but now I do. Like,
hold that mean I gotta know, like and listen, this
is what's going on with you?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Why are you like that? Where's that coming from? You
want to have that kind of conversation makes you upset?

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Getting it off because now I need to know you
for you you're trying to get in their mind.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, once you do that, it's over. He's been in
every side of the he been psych major and everybody.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
You've been married for a long time. N I've been married.
I'm married and divorced.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
But I've been I've been with my girl now ten
years many three. So that's my dude like right now.
And I like a lot of them dating, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
But I mean, since you are really with the psychological
side of it, what is some advice you would give
some of these younger athletes these days because you see
a lot of the some of these older women praying
so to speak, on these young boys.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
You are right about that, bro, damn oh man. So
what advice I would get them?

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Right?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
As uh is has some patience? Take your time, right.
I feel like we get a girl that's popular, she's there,
and we want to just just give her everything, right,
you know what I mean, everything she wants to give
it her. It's like she like me, she gonna wait,
you know what I mean, let me at least learn you,
let me at least like you. We be so hyped
up to get somebody that's baddy or somebody's popular and
all that, and wanted to get to like her. And

(04:21):
then when we do like her, like, I don't even
like this joint, you know what I mean? This, Yeah,
I've been.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
There once, she did it, So here you go. And
he was right.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
And another thing is you get someone that got some
lose like you got some lose. Because I be thinking,
like if we her do something right and unlet's say
it's wrong, we get in trouble. If you're not gonna
face the heat and the bath and I'm gonna face
then while we even and it's not about she gotta
be like somebody, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
But let's say you got kids.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
You're a really good mom, you care how you are
perceived for your children, got belent you know what I mean,
Like you're a good person or you don't want your
parents to see what type of that's my thing? Like
something to lose, you know, girls lose something I don't
care about nothing and go to the next one. I'm
a hold up baby. Then you just get my man
jammed up and you want to bloss talking about it.

(05:11):
But now you're about to get with me. Now, why
would I do that? That's the dumb shit we doing.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
He still will do it, though it is the problem
there in lines the issue that we will do it,
though won't he do it?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
And he asked, you manna tell me.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Like goddamn right. Two of your former brothers. Man just
took jobs.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Shut out to Sean Jackson at Delaware State and Mike
Vick and Northfolk State, and.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
To your real brothers, our thoughts. And when we see
you out there with either of them this year this season.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Oh you absolutely not see me. I ain't doing no coaching,
but I will see this. I'm so happy, super happy
for Michael Vick. You know, I always see him being
a coach, you know what I mean. I remember when
we was young whiling out and he was like our
idol playing with him and.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
The coach can control me.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
And to Shawn he had to go through Victor do
it and if old j Vick said, you know what
I mean, do this, do that.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
We're gonna do it. I remember one time we live.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
In waits Damn. I love my Mike because Mike's a
great person, you know what I mean. People don't know that, right,
even with the dog stuff and all that. Once he
serves his time in jail and the community service, you know,
he still was doutor.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Like making people aware of it and they ain't even
ask him to. But story, we lift in weights.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
And wait, men, DeShawn Wayne, we ain't lift was man.
We don't even lift weights like that. So Mike's in there,
so we act like we lift, and we talking about
the girls of last night, you know, and and Jack left.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
So Mike said, yeah, where'd yall go? Don't I don't
know where you went. I don't know went, so he
go finding.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
He said, yo, man, you know, come back in the
locker room. So he come back in there. He said,
I ain't gotta lift, man, I'm natural.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yup. Mike said, what what you mean? You natural?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
He said, I don't need that, man, I get it
done with anything. He said, what should think? He said,
we think I do?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Fuck?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
You know what I mean, Like, I'm gonna hear work.
I got two hundred dollars contracts twice. Why you can't
do it? He said that we start lifting just the
o g you know what I mean of putting us
in another place and keeping it moving. The problem is,
like players don't like that now. So that's that's how
Mike was into DeShawn, another good friend of mine. I'm

(07:18):
happy for him because now he's the type of coach
or he gonna motivate players like we come from the
same backgrounds, right, maybe an underdog because Deshawn's always big
on the underdog, you know, and he's gonna get them
players and he gonna make them dogs, right. And I
think a lot of recruits are gonna come to him
because of that. And I think the Shawn's good for

(07:38):
just a new generation of trying to control, like being
from that neighborhood, right and still going out there and
being a professional on the field.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
He's gonna be great at that.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Your transition into media, you know, seeing your show with
your brother twenty five to ten. But then also you've
been you know, prevalent in the Fox space the last
few years too. Have that started and how's it going?
It's going good. Uh, you know, it's a little different
from me.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I think my transition was it was harder for most
because like I'm always the same way if it's on TV,
you know, if it's joking with y'all, that's what I do.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
So I had to learn on the prime time and.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Like it's a little bit more professional where if I
want to call a dude this ass like he ain't
he ain't shit, you know what I mean, I can't
say that.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
I got to say it.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
What like I said it about that and like, you know,
I didn't like how it came off, because that's not
what I was trying to say. I was saying, like,
you know, we talked about to do so much. I mean,
he's he's okay, you know what I mean, and like
he's and he was playing ass at the time.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I should have said that.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
So like learning that how to be different would still
be myself, because that's a lot of dudes that they
be a certain way on TV. Then they get off
and they get told different dudes. You know, I'm like,
hold up, man, this ain't even for real, you know
what I mean? So I never want to be like that.
But the trans it has been cool, it's been good.
It's hot right now.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Though, Yeah, the block is hot.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
What you I mean, you don't have to get into detail,
But what's what's the energy over there right now?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Well? You know, you know, no, No, I'm real supportive
of all my right coworkers, you know what I'm saying,
And like I don't really know much about ane of
that ship, you know what I mean, Like I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
You know, I'm cool with everybody over there where you
currently stand over there, you in negotiations with them.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I am happy or you negotiats right now.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Okay, it's crazy he brought that up because we just
got to approach about it. I'm talking about Super Bowl
around then. So after this year, don't really holler at them.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
You're you're able to balance traditional media and then obviously
there's new waving media in the pocket, Like what's your
goal in both?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, So you know, I like the the corporate stuff though,
so that way, I'm still in the light, you know,
still mainstream and all that, because I'm gonna do some
stuff like I'm gonna call games probably next year, right,
and then like I do a lot of partnerships with
the NFL, and a lot of that is because I
am more mainstream. But I like this side of it
too though, because this is more who I really am, right,

(10:04):
I think culturally, like just certain topics and conversations with
different athletes and people. You know, I could do that
any day, and I think I like that too, because
I'm getting the best of both worlds.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
So like it's funny like one day I'll get my
take on the game on prime time, right, and then
maybe the next day the same conversation, I'm gonna give
it to you a wholly different way. So that's why
I like both of them, you know, and it is
build my brand up, right because like you talked about
real estate, I do that. But also I'm trying to, like,
you know, teach young boys to how to get money

(10:36):
without doing different things.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
And I'll be saying, like you.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Can build, you always make money, you know what I mean.
So just using both platforms.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Recently Living Death into the Eagles Hall of Fame graduation,
how was that?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
That was cool? That was good?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Like, uh, you know, when you playing, you get all
the love and all that, and then when you retire
you always wonder like the people still love me the same?
What did the boys say from peinty four? Oh the
grownd Scow screen right when I lead a game?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, And so it was good man. They had to
give a speech out you know, it was a halftime,
so they turned on the lights off.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
See I was really I was ready for it.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
They had my little notes and all that, my little speech.
And then when they took the lights on and the
fans had all the cameras and the lights, I kind
of like, oh, like, oh okay, all right. So it
was I'll be thinking about like the Eagle's been around
for so many years, right, and it's only about like
eight of us line of us that's on the Eagles
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Right.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
I played with some great players too, so to be
second to that, that's that's dope. But I think the
bigger one is coming sooner.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah yeah, I talked about that. Yeah yeah, you got
when you eligible? What year? Next year? Next year, twenty six,
next year?

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Od it's a good six time Pro Bowl, twenty ten
All Decade team, two time Super Bowl champs, six one
one thousand yard Russian seasons, and it was dynamic from
the passing side.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
To think you got a good shot. I do.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I'll be looking at like who goes in right, Like, okay,
this running back? I got numbers like him, I got
touched like him, I got all that, you know, But
it's funny. I be thinking, like, I really great a
player off of.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Who you did it with?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Right, So like right now, Lamar Jackson, bro I haven't
seen nobody play as good as him in a long time.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
He balling.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
And I look at Josh Allen, who's always been balling, right,
I look this year, he's not playing as good as Lamar. Right,
stats wise, but he's he balling crazy too. But the
difference is, like, yo, who you deal with, you know
what I'm saying. And y'all can contested this from playing
a game like you got Pro Bowls here, all NBA
or this that around you and really good players around you. Okay,

(12:46):
but if you're doing that with dudes that barely making
his squad, and I gotta respect him more when you
talk about the m v P.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
So a lot of these guys I look on this
Hall of famous and running backs you know, and out
of them and they play with a lot of great
players where you coming to see me an Eagles or
more with the Buffalo when I was giving not really
good you know numbers because Buffalo wasn't like that back
then like they are now.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
But it's hard to get thirty hundreds.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
So yeah, I'm always getting sixteen at Philly when I
had Deshaun and Victim dudes. But if I'm still give
you thirteen plus and all that and touchdowns in the
cold and the cold with backup line and the wide
receivers that go from this team and that team and
this team that count for something, you know what I mean, like,
one of my best friends is Frank Gorey. We always
talk about that, like who we do it with?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
You know what I'm saying. So with that argument, who
do you do with? That? Would give all of.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Lamar's playing great this year, better numbers than his previous
MVP seasons.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Josh Allen is doing it with less.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
I would give it to Josh. I think I think
they a plus to an egg. Lamar's playing eight plus
Josh playing the A. Josh is winning with dudes that
wouldn't make other teams if you come up to a
game plan, right, y'all noticed from playing basketball, how we're
gonna stop the Ravens. All right, look, we're gonna watch
up the eight because he's just then you. But damn
you got another MVP can't date behind Derrick Henry right

(14:10):
and then z Flowers and baby like you all these
different dudes or Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I mean, like who Josh all?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
But they got two Pro Bowls, the whole team once
a left tackle Deon Dalkons outherwise job, so I would
give it to him. He did beat the Detroit Lions
and the Chiefs. They both number one seeds, you.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Know what I mean? But but whoever wins. I don't
care because Lamar killed. Lamar prosually win MVP last year.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Just being respectful, like he had them same stats last
year in the first half of the season, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
But I've never seen played as good by Lamar is truly.
His next step now was to win in the playoffs though, Right,
he's gonna win. You gotta be super Bowl. That's it.
I only bow that ship. They be talking.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Oh he's his record, Yeah, he was a lot of time.
I think this is this is his best. What last
year was last year? This year is probably the best
change to win, you know what I mean. But but
then again, like I mean, you Pastor.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Mahomes ain't just he out there.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Though I watched Pat in twenty nineteen opos the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
We won a championship.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Phenomenal player, right, we had everybody. Travis Kelsey was still younger.
He won dating that the Billionaire Chicks, and he was
really engaged.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
We had uh, we had Tyreek Hill as a doll.
All right, real quick, hold your thought. Can Tyree go
back to Kansas City? Yeah, okay, we're talking about that.
We'll talk about that letter ahead. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, So anyway. So we was selling records, touchdowns, everything
you can think about. But then I watched him last
year when they lost five games, they was on the.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Road, the old playoffs. He didn't look good all year.
Travis wasn't bawling, and the thinking still won a championship.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
So I'm like, yo, hold up, you want to get
the best championships at your best, at your worst, you
still winning. They had the most drops in the wide receivers,
you know what I mean. So it's like Jason, like,
I gotta make sure this motherfucker's dead.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
I got the So you got to beat Pat, right, Pat,
I do Bro.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
And that's a lot of things too. If you correlate
that to basketball, when Stephan the Warriors were running, there
was a lot of good teams that just couldn't get
past step and the Warriors.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I didn't think of that like Bronchi. It was somebody else. Dang.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
You never know what happens with Harden in Houston, with
Dame Lillard and Portland when they had them good teams, Like,
there was teams that were good, but they just ran
into the Warriors.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
The Houston Rockets. That's a good one. That's a good one.
We start talking on sports here, I be talking all day.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I saw.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
What happened to the Eagles team. Why y'all coudn't get
over the hunt when he was That's a good question.
And uh our deepens won that good officer?

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Ye want that?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Good officers crazy, right? And I think I think we
put too much now I'm older looking back on it.
We put too much pressure on Mike, you know what
I mean, Like like Mike was nice, but the way
Mike play is like he's reckless because he's just a dog,
you know what I mean, I ain't sliding, you know,

(17:09):
and then like making him throw the ball all game
like that. You know, you can get picks and et cetera.
Or if you watch like the way they play with Lamar,
even Jalen hurts. You know, some games they will throw
the ball a lot more because depending on how the
game is. But to have a real good offense, I
think we should have Mike run it, you know a
couple of times game maybe not going over thirty passes.

(17:32):
I think if you break it down like that, yo,
the game's more controlled and you're not putting that much
on your quarterback.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
You know.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, that too, you know, but just because we had
a lot of turnovers, fumbles and picks and this and that.
But I think if you played at a better like game plan,
you know, with with trying to put because Mike was
so good, you know what I mean. They made him
do everything. And I think even when you watched the day,
like you got the superstar, but you need them other players,
and if you can control the superstar enough, I think

(18:02):
you know, it goes a little differently.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Yeah, career, yeah stopped your two and eagles ended at
twenty fifteen.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
He was traded for Key Call Alonzo. Man, your boy,
let me stop you real quick. Serious question though, do you.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Know what that is? Though? I have no idea that bro.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
The day when I heard the trade Drew Ro's house,
he said, shady, he said, this is not a joke.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
You've been traded.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I'm like, man, what are you talking about? It's like,
what are you talking about? He said, y'all they traded
you to the Bills.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I'm in Miamis. I'm like what.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
And the crazy thing is like, after the season, you know,
most players they pack up their locker because the football
ain't like basketball. You can be going tomorrow with a
five year contract. But I never I never touched my stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I know what it is. I mean, you neverd than me,
so I never really looked like that dog. And he
traded me. And then when I after the bills, they
said it was the easiest best trader ever had.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
They said Chip costs and hey, you guys be interested
in Lashawn McCoy. So the gym was like, yeah, for sure,
he said. But I was like, they're gonna they're gonna off.
They won't want too much, you know what I mean,
they gonna want.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Too much for him.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
So he said it hitting back like yeah, we would,
but you know, we probably can't afford what you want.
Chip Chip said no, not the GM Chip. He said, no,
we're gonna we just want Kilonzo and the gym. At
the time, it was like when he said that, I
was still waiting, like like, all right.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Him and who else? He's like, no, that's it. He said.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
He was like, oh deal, he said it hung up.
He said, I did the deal, befre eving how that
the coach at the time was Rex Ryan. He says,
already knew it was a dumb deal, and I was
like wow, that's how you.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Do a drade.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
But talk to us about chip back up, because we've
heard a lot of ship and we haven't heard it
from a player that played for him.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Though, Oh wow, that's crazy. Yeah he was. What you
don't know about it? What you want of those how much?
How it ain't ship? He is? For what I heard? Yeah,
he bad coach? Well no, no, no, no, I should hear a
bad coach. He don't know. He don't know how to
reach the room. He don't know how to relate to
his players, Like I played on teams where that's a
bad coach. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, you can get away with it on certain levels,
like you can get away with it in college because
dictatorship in the pros is different.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
I mean, but he was winning up what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
You can get away with it in college because they
college kids have to go now they don't, but back
then they had to buy. And he had great teams
at Orgond. But it's a different style and and and
energy of coaching obviously college and pros.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Man.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
He the only player he only coach ever been around.
He got multiple college championships. No, yeah, so it ain't
work too well? Zero, he win it at all saving
he ain't. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So he't winning
no championship. That sh it ain't working. Yeah, he's just
sucking everybody.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Seeing they got thirty we'll talk to Oh yeah, he
don't only coach.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
I'm telling any color that the white boys on the
squad don't like him, and none of the brothers like him.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I ain't never seen that. At least you're gonna have
something on this side. None of that.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
And he was just different, Like I mean, simple things
like man like y'all playing on teams with some white
dudes that listen to rock or or or yeah, rock
and roll, and his brothers listen to the straight trap music.
And then some dudes that came up they want some nas,
they want some so everything's different.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
He like none of that. He would be like, hey,
in the locker room, y'all put your head set to
man ain't no music.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
So all the and I was one of the players,
it's like hold on, hold on, like you the coach,
but this is our team, though you can't tell what
we listened to. And he ain't like some of that,
you know, simple shit like when I was a rookie,
you know, devixing something same.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
They had the big cars and all that, and I
had to wait to get that. So once I.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Earned it, I was trying to get my big wheels
like they didn't come to the games. Right, You get
the outfit on a nice little.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Take the pictures, you know, because you just fall on. Okay,
that's what the oh here did it. That's what I'm
gonna when I get it.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
This dude, he said, yeah, Manu. From now I'm on.
You know, y'all drive y'all cars to the game on Saturday,
and then we ride the school bus to the game.
Because we're a team, we gotta look the same.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
He said.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Then, African, you could drive. You could take your fancy cars,
you know, to the house. I'm like, so wait, you.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Want to control what cars you drive from or how
we come into the games? Slave me telling me Bro, I.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Mean I'm talking about Bro has stuff like uh, okay,
I'm black.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
I like black socks.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I don't know, I just like black socks, right, he said, Yo,
on my team, we only were white, sox, I say,
coach Man, every year, I'm gonna go for like twelve
hundred and almost fourte hundred yards like I do.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
It in black socks.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Now, I'm trying to like joke with you because I
don't want to make this awkward for you because you
the coach.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
And I'm the player.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
But we talking about socks. I said, we're talking about
socks right now. Coach, he said that that's the rules.
And he never was like confrontational. He was soft, like
trying to like reason with me, you know. So I
was like, okay, coach, you got it. So I would
wear black socks and put white tape on it. So
when I go out there, he said, I could see

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the black. I said, you see white, you see the
white tape.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's just so many little things.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
But he would he would model turn my sleep we
get so he's like, yo, whenning teams need to sleep
a certain amount of hours. I said, well, look, coach,
you know some of these dudes are young. They won't
step outside.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
That we win the game. They want to party a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Right with with with girls they age. Uh, some of
these dudes they got the older, they got kids.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
The baby might wake up.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Two year old, wine year old or whatever at two
in the morning.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
They got to get up.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
He didn't want to air that, so he would he
would he would drug tests, and he would and he would.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Uh he drug tested y'all.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Now I didn't really complain about but I would have
to speak up because, you know, because nobody really want
to go against him.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
He was one of them dudes.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
And I'm like, well, look, man, like dudes don't feel
comfortable smoking or I mean, they're for comfortable.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Coming to you about your drug testing.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Like if the rules for the NFL is you drunk
on whatever it is and they pass, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (24:19):
What are you talking about right now?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
I said, coach, Man, I said, listen, brus a football team, coach,
this is our last real issue, I said, coach, it's
our football team.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
But listen, yo, you're running this ship like a like
a like a jail, like a po office. You know
what I'm saying, Like, and you're gonna lose. Do they
gonna be started coming because they're gonna rumors. I ain't
going to Philly. They're talking about coach drug testom every
time they go to practice. Was he was he the
coach to give a Roley Cooper an extension? He's another one.
Huh yeah yeah, so that's even worse. They'll lets you

(24:50):
know what type of person after you publicly at the concert.
Niggah this out loud.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
You know what I'm saying. It's still just right come
back and that's crazy. Yo.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Look when he was there right check this out. So
I told you he was Mike for everything, because Mike's
the OG. Mike said, we're gonna do it where it is.
So Cooper does that little stuff you just said, right,
So it's everywhere now, so we So it's a line
of dudes in there that they want to holler at him.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
That was cool cool. He in the office is younger,
so it's weird for me because now I'm man. But
he look at me like I'm a big bro. You know.
He texted me like he's sorry and all that. I
ain't really hollering at the time.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
So anyway, when he come there, Chip made him wait
like a day or two, so we ain't seen right
outside of mind, we ain't really see. But it's on
the meeting everywhere. So when he gets there, it's after practice.
He calls all in the main like meeting room and
he brings Coop out there. He lets Coop say sorry
whatever this third and then he hides him again for

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another like a couple of days, so we never really
seen him.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
He had the day he was gonna show up.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
He had Mike tell the team, I look, he said, look, man,
you know I'm from the South.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I'm from this and that.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
And if y'a ain't ever say nothing about somebody you
know what I mean, or say words about this and
that behind closed doors, you know what I mean, y'all
can't be offended, you know what I mean. You could
be mad, but you gotta forgive your brother because y'all
did it before, so I get his message right. You know,
we all say things that we don't mean, et cetera.
So then when Cook came back, it wasn't as bad

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because you know, the big.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Dogs spoke on it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
But if it was anybody else, Chip Wanta did all that,
you know what I mean, And it is a tough
situation because it's real. I mean, a white dude saying
that about blacks, it's a bigger thing. But he just
was good at at like shit like that, where if
it was one of us, he wouldn't did all that.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
And a lot of shit in my mouth, but seeing
the H word never came out my mom for no
reason yeung fuck behind closed doors or not that those
words never come on my mouth.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
I have no reason to.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
So you didn't say that before you got comfortable saying
to say it like that, right, and you know what
to get to It might be it is the music.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
They singing every song word for words, so you expect
him to be the pause at that point. Yeah. Nah,
but you know, but I went on. I went on music.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
That's not why he said it. He wasn't rapping, Nah,
he wasn't. He was at a country he was I
don't know, Chesney ches so it was like he was
black dude, that all white country. So all that concert
and uh, the do was being he wasn't listening to

(27:36):
cool he ain't know he was. He was trying to
your backstage all that type of stuff. And he said,
I kick your nigger asses.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
We was like whoa.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
But to his defense, he said he didn't. He was
like he was mad and the first thing came in
his mind to make this guy man defended.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Oh no, that's weird, that's we that's I didn't see
the whole I didn't get into it with a whole
bunch of Karens and different and I ain't never called racist.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I might have called a bitch a stupid hole or
some ship like that, dumb bitch like that. We get it.
But it's crazy though. I'll say.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yo the same way, like Yo, if I'm mad at
the white person, like I ain't the first time feeling
to call him that, you came all type of stuff.
You can call him that. And that's why I really
had an issue like that. Maybe bro might be you know,
but I mean, but was doing stuff like man, we
be dudes. I'm married of practice. I'm like, yo, how
the hell is this dude on the team he went
to organ I'm like, yo, you got a dude that

(28:38):
played at the freaking Alabama and he black?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Right? Why he in the game? We had white but
series I'm like, yo, all these.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
He don't even know how he make the squad. And
I might even try and be funny because there's some
white boys that can play them. Yeah, we don't have
them white jus.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
You know what I'm say.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
If you want get the white boys, I'm cool with
all that.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I love like the white team that's got all my boys.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
My best friends is white, you know, but give me
some good ones, though, I don't know brothers that's black
that can't.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Win.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Well he I can go ahead for hours that dude,
Oh my god, I could see somebody suppose to you.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I would have made it you too, I think about it.
I didn't really. I didn't really the coach too much.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah, you want a championship with Brady and mahons, what's
the contrast between them to a leadership.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
So some of the similarities, I would say, like, uh, competitors.
Brady ain't trying to lose nothing like, and he's all
nice and all that. He turns it on with it's
time to win. Should I remember when I man, he
got some of the stories to tell you about Brady.
He just love to win, Bro at all costs. At
the same way, dudes ain't catching the ball, ain't playing

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a certain way.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Dudes hurt. I got it. I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
I remember one time I had this game and we're
trying to I guess, clinch the playoffs whatever, and and
the tackle at the time. I won't say his name,
but he was acting like he was hurt. Now, you know,
some of the big us be soft as hell, like Bro.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
You know what I mean, put your helmet, all put
your up, so let's go play you six ' eight.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Like, come on, man, talking about this his ankle or
it's toe or anyway. So patting in the training room.
So for the whole week, he's checking up on him,
checking up on him. Now the training room all in
basketball and football, it's like the hangout spot.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
All right. So about about Friday, Pat coming there? Like
is he playing? What's going on with him? Now?

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Past the type of person where this is why I
love Pat because he's hisself. He don't try like he's
something he's not.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
You know what I mean. He gonna he's his own person.
He listened to his music. You're gonna listen to some J.
Cole with some light stuff, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
He's himself. That's why I love Pat. The dude now
had been the quarterback, Hey man, how you feeling all week?
He's been trying to butter him.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Up because he's a tackle. You need him.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I'm still not comfortable. He's doing all this ship his
shoulders and all that. I ain't feeling good right, So
I'm watching it, you know, and watching and ship. I'm like,
oh man, bro, bro, playing Pat walk Off, I'm gonna
win it anyway.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
What he wore outing and he won that fucking game.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
That's the type of players, even when you watch games
where they ain't catching the balls or they ain't doing
this and that. The second hand, he gonna do it
if he's running, if he's just stending it. So you
can see the greatness because I played with Vic McNab,
Josh Allen malmes Bread, so I've seen all the best ones.
But when you see the real grace, you see the difference.
Pat Brady, like I married the super Bowl man Like, well, Brady,

(31:54):
because you asked about the similarities or whatever. We're playing
the Bucks earlier that year, the Bucks beat the hell
out of us. So the coach is like, yo, look man,
you know they're gonna play this coverage, this and the third.
So Brady used to have his own meetings. So he
called the skills just like quarter the quarterbacks, running backs,

(32:15):
wi I receiver tight ends. He said, y'all here with
coach said, they're not gonna play us in that ship
he started.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
We met together. Then when we left, he sent this
individual like uh.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Like recordings like he was in his crib watching tape
he going over every d back.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
This is super Bowl. It's just crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
He's like, Yo, this dude right here. You know he
lacks long speed, so he holds a lot. You can
beat him with go balls.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
This due right here.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
You know he doesn't do well against Oh, he's only
getting his own.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
He goes to all the players, starters and back ups.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
I'm like, damn this, This dude must have.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Took two days, no eating, no sleeping, going over every position.
So he said, look, they're gonna plays in this coverage.
When we got to the game, they played this in
the same coverage that Brady talked about.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
What the coaches saying this.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
He has his own little meeting saying they're gonna do that,
and he did it. I'm like, this white boy is cold,
cold bro, that's hard different, So.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Come on man. And then they both like it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Because when I went to the Chiefs, Pat was asking
me about Josh Allen because Josh's talent is his mom.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
He wants he wanted to know, and he got brother,
and you were loveless.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
He felt like a brother and you can't chump me.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
And then when I went to the Bucks, Brady was
low key asked me about Pat. I said, look at
these niggas, y'all. Okay, they low trying.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
To figure out what you know what I mean, But
that's cold.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
That's like like name three greats that you bounce from,
you know what I mean. So it's just like they
want to get any any any edge up or any
advice they can get.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, freaking Josh. They all got dog on them.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Only name about Josh's dog though, because I'm a Pat
Simmer with the dog. He like a brother at home, Josh,
you can come at him a little bit because we're teammates,
you know what I mean. But certain things he ain't
gonna let fly. You know, certain quarterbacks mentioned some white boys,
you know, brothers can get away with doing a little extra.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
He ain't with it because in the football game, he
gonna run you over.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
We're playing a game.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Dude was talking ship to him and all that. You
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Bat he tried to run him over. He's a linebacker.
That's how you play. So when anybody play with him,
they love him because he just you know, because most
quarterbacks ain't gonna give you everything because they protecting themselves,
you know, he ain't with all that ship.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Oh we practicing. I'm practicing. Oh it's a fighting practice.
I'm in there fighting too. You'll never see that quarterback
came home surpassed Brady. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's gonna me a lot though, and it's gonna be easy.
But I think where they at today, I think he's
way more eventsd than than Tom. You know, you look
at this, the MVPs, how fast the yards. Think about
this for a second. The worst we've ever seen Patrick
Mahomes is an ABC championship game. That's that's I mean,

(35:15):
you know what I'm saying. Every year he gone and
and he's more of the main reason. I think some
of Brady's joints. He was still just getting up in there,
you know what i mean, learning a little bit, you know,
letting the defense kind of play it out. Now, the
way Brady finished that shit was crazy. Like I leave
the New England, I'm gonna get a championship. Every other
year I'm in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Like Tom.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Is definitely different, and he was forty years old doing it,
you know what.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
I mean, that's gonna be hard to do.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
When the Kaepernick situation was going on, what was the
vibe and how would the players talking, you know, when
Jared Jones was not letting the players kneel and stuff like, Yeah,
we hated that though, you know because it's like, you know,
I don't know the reason why kat was was doing
what he was doing, right, because everybody there on the
paint of it. But I definitely, now that I'm older,

(36:04):
I respect it because he brought light to it, you
know what I'm saying. And sometimes in football or in
sports and it's like you matter it masters you who's
saying something or what they're saying is about and when
you don't really see that and not with him because
he wasn't the player to be you know, whatever it is,
but the message was powerful. I'm like, damn because like

(36:26):
when you play ball, the team and everybody teat you
a certain way and you black and all that, right,
but then you got homeboys, or you might see someone
on TV that might lose a life, right and they black,
but they don't have the star part. You've got shit
still wrong. You get what I'm saying, still hurt, So

(36:46):
you start looking at things differently.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Then what with that?

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Or if I wasn't all decade running back, ya, I
that could have been me on it, you know what
I mean. So so that was tough to deal with, man,
because then you see the ownership, like and the bills
is really really good at it, you know what I mean,
good ownership.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
So it was cool. But other teams right talking at
home Boy, they're like, yo, man, we can't kneel. They like,
what is this American? What do you mean you can't kneel?
How can they tell you that?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
And they don't want to upset their season ticket holders
and and I'm like, so, okay, so you don't really.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Care for me for real. It's a business to you though,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
So when that whole thing is going on, you really
was questioning a lot of relationships with different people in
high and higher positions because like, do.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
You really care for me for real? Or is it
just you know what I mean, livelihood on the line. Yeah,
some people don't understand.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
And then the thing for him is he probably never
been like another you know, starter and all that, right,
but he still would have been on somebody's team.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
You get what I'm Saying's no doubt, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
But I'm saying, like, because he spoke out on something
now he.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Can't play, but they still have an issue about right.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
But back then though, when I was on the other side,
when I first heard about the whole thing, I'm like, Yo,
this dude making a big were like why he And
I was saying like if it was a bigger player
like a Brady he kneel and all that, they'd have
found a way to make it okay and say Brady
was black, you know what I mean, because he matters.
But that's how we always thinking that first before that
ain't the main thing, you know, that don't matter. That

(38:16):
matters what was right and wrong, and what he was
speaking on was right. At the time, a lot of players,
like even myself, we didn't really understand what he was
really saying.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
You know.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
But to your defense, I mean, like I said, you
worked your way out of that and your in your
your your own bubble, you know what I mean. So
I think he made everyone kind of look outside the bubble,
like what's really going on to our people? Pa upbringing
a lot of talent from out that way.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yes, you do yourself. Aaron Donald, Saquan, Darrell Reeves, Michael Parsons,
to name a few, were for the same time. He
from like the outskirts.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
It's the water out there is that the air is
Ricky waters, Ricky running with cond like Parson, you know
what I mean? Come on, oh, MICUs Coaston Marcus Coaston
receiver from the stat A couple of cats, Yeah, more
than a couple.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
What was it like coming up out there? I was cool,
it was good.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
You know, sports was always a thing. It's like either
you played sports or you was in the streets. Right
you don't have an older brother he played in the pros,
and you know then I have my pops. It's funny,
like I don't know how everybody is like raising the
areas but around from like if you was really really
good at something sports wise, like certain places you just

(39:33):
couldn't go. And I don't know if it's like that
now you know what I'm saying. Now, nothing one hundred percent.
Kids can get in trouble anything they do. But it's
like certain certain times at night, like certain ogs wouldn't
let me be around that long.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Okay, shit you doing okay? Cool? All right, man, get
your ass home, like you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
So it was more of like a whole community that
was looking out where Now I be fun like some
of the ogi's now be kind of okay with the
young boys.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Don't stand in the mono crash missions, right right. So
back then that we had that type of environment my town.
I heard you was nice and who I was? They
told you. I was like I who was your game?
Like everything? They told you that too. I think you
told me that. You know what I'm saying that.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
No, no, you heard that was nice.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I'm saying to tell you that. But I heard you
was nice. I heard you was nice from you, though
I didn't hear no when else I heard you. I
gotta be honest. Dog, Listen, I told you. I'll tell
you again. I'm not gonna let you disrespect Chuck like this, yo.
That's my listen. That was my childhood idol. Dog in
my room cause a million irish you know what I'm saying,

(40:42):
not even pause and all that like that was my man.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
So one time I'm in Virginia with Mike Vick, my man, right,
we he had like a little vent whatever we in
the club, and I think my third year I was young.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Him and Chuck from the same they from the same hood.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
When in Virginia, I'm like, oh, ship, I'm telling my
man yo Iverish over there right.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
I'm an Iverson fan. You know.

Speaker 6 (41:07):
Now it's him that what's up on love, you know,
the whole time ship.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
So we see him so big, like my man shady.
Sohow man, you know, you know, nice to meet you.
So he like, now if you know a.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
He's always like, uh, this's my first meeting. He's always
like happy and love. Yeah, okay, it's all man, it's
all little nigga. Man.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
He calls home, come here. He said, what I talk
about this little nigga right here? Man?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
So now I'm like, oh, he knows me though, So
now I'm thinking, hey.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
I know me. He says, yeah, you said he he
reminded you of you. We used to play football. So
I'm like, damn, he was nice like that, and I
hate him thinking that.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
So showed up that he was nice things like that.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
So I go I I didn't say this because I
was still but when he walked off, I said, Mike,
that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
He said that about me in high school.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And I'm like, damn, dog, he I remind him. He
reminds me of me when I played high school basketball.
I have been like that.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
So we basically we got the same type of perspective,
like he think he.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Was out them.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, man, so something I said, so so so hey,
I just seen him at this We did a little
arrest on him in Philly. Man, I want to tell
you this story and ship. So when you see the
episode the Phillips Mutual, Bro, I.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
Mean you know what I'm saying, so that when he's
saying like that, just know this he thought of me
like on the on the court.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah yeah yeah, so but your last organized basketball was
but seventh grade something like that.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Hold on, no, look, no, hold.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
Up, he said, stuffing like no, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you're successful Hooper.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, did y'all did y'all play freshman? Seventh grade?

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Is freshman or no?

Speaker 1 (43:07):
No, I didn't. Ninth grade was my freshman, but I
never played for freshman basketball.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Well what about in the seventh eighth grade? I think
I sat the bench in one of the years. But
I was good enough to be on the bench as
a seventh grade of ninth grade eighteen and the A grade,
I was nice and the freshman.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
But then I went to just I can't say it's
just seventh grader on the ninth grade. Yeah yeah, yeah,
middle school in high school was one. No, but it's
the same, like it's the public school. So you're saying
you were good enough to go sit on the freshman
That's what I'm saying, Bro, That's all I'm saying. Were
you good enough to play though? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
No, well no, I mean I mean I played like
I played, So I played the apri Yard was nice
though the Apriy I was really I was.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
As a seventh grader, I was playing with the ninth graders.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I didn't start, but I still was playing something. No.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
What I'm saying, Okay, so maybe I'm chipping because my
high school is nine, ten, eleven, twelve.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
It is, but basketball, I didn't go to school with
the ninth graders. They just let you go play with
the high school team. They do it somewhere, they don't
do it everywhere. In some cities you can go up.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
See, so what I'm so, what I'm saying is there
there there's one. So how can you be in the
high school. It's just probably like their filter high school,
their their feeder high school. That the middle school they
probably get to go to their feeder high school.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Anyway, it's this, you know, And I didn't play high
school basketball.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
But when I watch some of these players, they talk
about comparisons, right, you compare everything. So when I watch
guys like AI and I see the quickness, quick twitch, fast, explosive. Okay,
then I see like Kyrie Irving, I see his little
mixture are cool.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
You had a lot of that. You definitely had that
on the field. You definitely that. Yeah, you massedop and start,
no question. And I was.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
I was working Hall of when I was in high school.
I kind of stopped working as hard. But in high
school work hard as ship. So all the hundred five
hundred jump shots in a game or a day, but
we'll never.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Know, We'll never know, I said, well, never know, we'll
never know. That's a true story of ash. It's a
real story.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
I'm like, damn me, I want to I want to
say it so fast, like damn, that's crazy because I
thought the same thing about you.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
But now we're done talking about the bullshit. Back to
the real ship. What you really can do amazing?

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (45:42):
You know, God Willing Hall of Fame football career almost
never happened. Compound fracture you had suffered in high school.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, what happened. Yeah, just man like I was. That
was crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
So you know, at this time, right I'm the number
one running back in the country, probably like eight or
something overall. You know what I'm saying, Like seventeen scholarships.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
I was doing my thing.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Then my senior year, I had like a thousand yards
and three games. I was really balling. So I bring
my ankle to to our rival school, damn, and then
I go, Ricky your name Ricky, I go for the.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
And I get hurt. So I'm probably getting calls a
day from my head coaches.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
You know, he's seventeen. You think you knew everything, you know,
and I got hurt. Man, Like I should all stopped.
Like I went from seventy eight scholarships to like four,
I meanber I committed to Miami, you know, and then
I had to go to prep school. Like we had
my ankle and I stopped going to school. I was
all messed up, and these dudes would be at my

(46:46):
school recruiting dudes.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
It wouldn't even got hot at me. You know, it
was just a five star. You were just play bagging me. Dog.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Pete Carroll This with Reggie Bush's Reggie Bush running through.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
He hosted you on there your visit right, come on, bro?
Was he had it laid out.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
I'm talking about we went shopping and ship this before
and I am, we want shopping.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
They closed the store down. They're like, get what you want,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
Kim was out this one.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I didn't know who kin was, but she was around.
She was all right, she was cool.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Uh they had all they had all the girls had everything.
But that was a nice little trip. But anyway, so
I go from that to us he not even answering
my calls.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
That's dead. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
That it was over after that, and I ain't really
had no more school. So then Penn State was in school.
I wanted to want to play for It's like a hometown,
you know what I mean. School, But paternal was different.
I want, you know, rest in peace. I won't get
into that. But he had his own perception of me
before he even knew me, you know. But that didn't
work out. Then Pitt they want it was an NFL coach.

(47:48):
It just worked out because he's he's like me, NFL coach.
He want ballers, you know what I mean. He don't
care about all the little stuff and I remember I
was gonna commit to Penn State anyway, just to prove
Joe Patterning wrong that I'm a good kid and all that.
And my dad was like, nah, yo, you gave Pittsburgh

(48:09):
your word that you would at least take one visit
before you make a decision. That's why I've been saying,
like your real dad's matter though, because like something small
like that. Hold up, man, you gave me your word.
You're going back up there. I'm like, but Dad, I
don't want to say I don't care you getting your word.
So I go back up there, and I loved it.
Now the team won, that's good, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
What I mean. But the players were like me, city kids,
you know it was it was cool.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
The coaches was NFL coaches, so they liked talent versus seniorities.
The politics it worked out, you know. He gave me
a chance to get my name back. I'm every telling
me like, yo, you know, so I go from up
here to down here. I'd like to take you to
rehab and get back to feeling like yourself.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
So when I was in pres school, I didn't even start. Dude.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Some dude beat me out because he was going to Miami.
I imagine me, you know, how play. I'm like quick
and shifted. I was running dudes, though I was out
of shape, you know what I mean. I was all
messed up anyway, So they would come see him, the
other kid going to Miami, and then it took me
by the year and a half they really get myself together.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
So then I leave during the year I go to PIT.
So now my mind is differently.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Okay, it's my second chance, you know, and all these
people count me out, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
And I went from people.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I was on my just doing everything I wanted to
do with me, with my boys, this and that there,
and now they kind of left me, nobody texting me.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
So I said, okay, cool.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
So when I got the PIT, I did my thing,
you know, only really did like a year and a
half and I went straight to the league. But that
was a good point for me because when I got
to the NFL, you know, I still had like the
Hanger hang Ons and my homeboys and stuff like that,
but I slowly left them earlier in my career because
I remember.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Like how I like how people really treated me. It
was hurt.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying I'm seventeen, like I ain't.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
You know people do they thirty and they played the league?
Maybe they in the same they early. I'm seventeen. So
that was that was a good That was a good
one for me, know to learn from. You know, mm hmmm.
Where the name nickname shady come from?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Damn?

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Oh my mom gave me that name. She was always
shady as a kid.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Like I'd be happy sad, you know what I'm saying
up and down. Yeah, and the neighbors picked up on
kids in school. So but I ain't shave no more
that ship.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
This is a name, you know.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
The next day I'm good on him, like, no more,
what are you staying from sa Quan? He broke your record,
he don his stand. Yeah, so we we are so
and se Can always been cool from Pennsylvania whatever. And
you know he was talking about even coming to Uh
to the Eagles. I'm like, yeah, what's the right you
know places? And Third, we do a golf We did

(50:50):
a golf out in this year about this the year
I knew we have a big year, not like this
but a big ast year. But now I'm happy for
him and he hell of a player. He'd been nice
as college. I think he got to New York and
he had a chance to show it because because he
was hurt in a couple of years and the team.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Wasn't as good.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
But like, I'm all for uplifting the next generation. It
don't matter how good sain Kwon Barkley do. I'm already made.
You can't take away from me. So when people were like, yo,
you ain't mad about breaking nah, like brot, I got
some I got some good numbers. Yeah, So I wanted

(51:25):
to do good because it's funny. You know, everything's in competition, right,
But as players, you always that love to get people
that love the game. You're always a fan of game.
So before I knew him, he was a fan of me.
He would tell me these things. He broke the record,
he said, y'all, it's crazy to be when he first
broke the record in the game, because I went to

(51:47):
the game and out here was it the Rams game.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
I was with the owner, we was watching the game whatever.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
And on the mic, he said, yo, yo, that's yeah,
we broke yeah, we broke Shady's record, right, And I
took that at He's like, that's a try of respect
because I actually know him, so I know he gotta
respect me. But if I didn't know him and I
heard that, you get what I'm saying, it mattered to him.
And when we talked me, he's like, yo, bro, breaking
it's big.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
That's why, like the shit going on with Eric Dickerson
and all that, Like, yo, dog.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
You a ogi, you a legend on me. You had
Jerry call he was scoring touchdown for the Rams, like
that was big. Now you got a chance to pass
your record down to Saquon this the same way O
J passes to you. Because am I like right now,
if you look, I'm probably with like six highest paid
running back of all time football and not for years.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Right. I never had a problem getting a contract. I
do my thing, I get busy, pay me top of
the market.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
So of the other dudes that did the same, not
maybe as much as I did, but are doing really well,
they're not having a chance to get them contracts. So
we have a situation where a forty year old record
can be broken for the next generation. Why won't you
let this dude do it?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
And why you mad about it?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Because Josh Jacobs running back for the Packers night he
played for the Raiders they want to go. He still
was busy. He led the league in Russian. I remember
talking to him. He's saying that the Raiders don't even
offer him a contract. I'm like, hohy not, it's like
being a scoring chain and don't even.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Know what we talking about. Saquon balls out. He is
the New York Giants and you rather pay Daniel Jones.
The mark is messed up. But you can go.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
You can be Baker Mayfield get a second chance. Now
they talking about seting Dog get a second chance.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Trevor Lawrence is god awful awful. He's the second highest
or third highest paid quarterback in football.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Jordan Love is good though, right, but you're gonna make
him hight paid quarterback after one year because if that's
the running back or wide receiver, you're not doing that.
CD Lambs you covir Yeah, save wan ce Lamb.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
He balls though, he cold if he.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
If he's not better than Justin Jefferson, okay, whatever, But
they closed up. So you're telling me in the open market, bro,
and it's my time, may get a deal. I can't
get jump over him contract wise, right, but you're gonna
tell me that. Lamar Jackson Josh Allen, Patrick Holmes can
get jumped over by Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
You know what I'm saying, It's crazy. They got the
game so messing with the quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
So that's why I was mad with the Eric Dickerson
because I'm like, yo, if he breaks his record now,
dudes like their Henry that has nice hundred yards are
still balling.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Won't take a seven million dollar contract or something.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
He's like, amen dollars because they not respecting the running
back position. This is a step us stone to do that.
So not the next generation ten twenty years from now.
They gotta respect it. So it's bigger than sa Quon
and Eric Dickerson.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
You're not sitting out the last game. You're gonna get
that time. You know, it's funny all their homeboys on
the chat. You know that played with the Eagles on
that that's playing it now. I won't say the names,
but they play with me and they playing it now,
so you can imagine who that is. They like this
is Shady was here. This year will not go down
like this. It will be a whole conversation all week
while we're not playing. Because I'm gonna get my record

(55:03):
because when I'm when I'm fifty years old, I'm six years.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Old, and I want my kids all that. When you
were just one hundred yards away, bro, and.

Speaker 5 (55:09):
You average was sixty and you playing the Johnson the dudes.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
That got rid of me and a week, Yeah, you
gotta get that record on that man.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
It was set up for him to do it. God
will make no mistakes.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
They playing like that.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Oh soa we don't get rid of you, Okay, we
we wanna set the rushing record and we're gonna play
them again.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
God set that up. But I mean, I get it now.
He is now.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
I will say one thing about say one that I
am not like. He is a great teammate and he's
his and he puts his teammates first. I did that,
but they gotta be with contents. Everything deserves the nuance.
I'm for the team. But hold up, man, brother, it's
recommend for fifty years on when your ass is going,
you're going, I'm going, it's still gonna be here. I
can't go get a hundred yards because I gave you

(55:52):
two thousand yards though winning and all that, right, so
you know, but I get the message though, like they
had their by.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Week like week three, so he had a full season.
Like so I understand, but let him go get that
guy because that's the other thing that real quick.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
I watched his whole week or last week, dud.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Incentives, Hey got him, all of them play with Mike
Evans got it. He deserved it. Now, Mike, he a dog.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
But I'm saying when I was there with him, he
had nine yards. I don't go for what we're doing.
We're gonna get him in styles. Yeah, that's just signed
of respect on Man and Brady. I think Brady played
for him to get.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
To so absolutely.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
And then how Dallas didn't let old boy play the
last game to get that certain rush five hundred game
for real?

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Oh it was it was oh yeah yeah, Oh that's crazy, Trevor.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
They played the whole seasons. Yeah he did, but they
try to use that like wrong God, yeah, instead of
letting that boy get that extra three hundred and twenty five.
But yeah, down win though you can't Yeah what do
y'all do? Ye do that basketball? You can't do sentives? Championship,
No senters like some guys do. Yeah, some guys do.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
Yeah, All Star Game, Uh, Championship you're win a ring
like but if anything where like you gotta have some
of the points aren't scored or you know what I mean.
That's that's that's been something big players like you win
the championship, like you got your contract. We win the championship,
you get money.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
So y'all never had nothing like work. I need a
certain amount of points this game because.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
We're gonna play with you so my boy can get
his ship off. Yeah no, I mean bonuses happened. But
like I think, our money is guaranteed, so no matter
how good or bad we play, we can get it.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Yeah. As soon as you started your name baby, Yeah,
so five getting the whole.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Yeah getting ah wow, that's an opt out the last
year and get a bigger deal.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Oh man, yeah, blessing. I'm talking like other players what
they did. Yeah, that's go ahead. Ken, Jalen Hursts won
the Super Bowl. I think so, I think so.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
I mean, like it's all what you want in a
quarterback because obviously you will take the Josh Allen's first,
or you'll take the Lamar, the Whay he plays a pack,
even the Burrows. Well, one thing I give Jalen Hurst
bro he find a way to win.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Yeah. And this thing is like when you talk about.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Other players, the first thing you're gonna talk about is
what their attributes are.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
His arm is crazy, Yo, he's accurate. You can't even
tackle a little more. Jamie's gonna say, Yo, he a
winner the games. I see where he might play awful dog.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
But we need that last drive. Bro.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
He finds a way and I respect he be like
this whole life under dog gotta win. He's been in
Super Bowl, you know, and lost to you know, top
three quarterback Paston Wones, Andy Reid. But I think he
can win it all our team. I mean it's bigger
than Jalen Hurts, like a J Brown, Davonte Smith, Oar receivers.
You got Sakuon Barkley and running back, and he got

(58:59):
the best office line of football.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
And you're tight end is decent and you got number
on defensive football. It's set up.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
If we don't want it this year, maybe next ye
because we are a little young. It might be because
every team has that win. Like I look at the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Days, what he is but a kill us?

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Look at the Niners.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
What's number seven names on defense? Defensive end? He's not there?
Now Jersey. He's from Jersey, from Philly and all that
way and now Jets, Jets, and.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Now he have a sack this year, just got fired
from the Raiders. Wow, we was waiting to see how
that was gonna work out.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
I mean they just doing You get him one year?
For real? Did you fire the other coach Inland one year?

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Like?

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Who will win? Who went? Like that? See?

Speaker 2 (59:56):
It's funny because, like I feel like player coaches now
they had because they gotta hire because it's a lot
of noise. And then dudes are doing well too, and
there's a lot of younger guys getting the jobs, and
they hired players back in the old heads were gonna
hire they people, right, But my thing is hot good
in the player do y'all for one year?

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Right? I like? I like Glen fin Get one of
them jobs. He nice though, he finish, Get one of
them jobs? He nice? Yeah, right off? And he's crazy
to right him here. Don't get enough credit though, because
that defense is all hurt, banged up. It's still balling. Yeah,
but Glenn crazy, Glenn is nice. They got this team.

(01:00:36):
They're gonna be probably biggest matchup Detroit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
What's gonna happen against the Packers. We're gonna beat shot
the Packers. They got nothing for quarterback hurt, they all
banged up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
They ain't bet nobody for the season. It's over.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Yeah, we're gonna beat on there. I think it's gonna
be Eagles in the uh dis champion game. Yeah, you
can say that. You could say that. You say that Sam.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Donald gotta show me still who Sam.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
I just gave this whole analogy the other day, Man,
I say, yo, tell him how that sh would go on?

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Y'all sport.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
A really really good player that's been balling for some years, right,
but this year he's in a slump and he's going
on like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
An eight six seven, eight game slump. Ain't playing well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Eventually, though, this real good player that's confident that he
gonna bounce back. If you're a sorry player for like
six some years, go to a new team though, right,
a new beginning in your seventh year with a really
good coach, and within like I don't know, eleven to
twelve games you balling. But when that bad moment comes, eventually, though,

(01:01:49):
that bad player gonna be the player he is. So
I'm thinking, like, Yo, how y'all just forget how bad off.
Somebody is having a good moment, but it's somebody that's nice.
You don't forget his his weaknesses, or you don't forget
when he did bad because I woul thinking like when
Lamar Jackson. They love to bring up all his playoffs
and all that shit. Oh he don't wear the playoffs
right now, that's true to that. I think you got

(01:02:12):
like two PLAYLF wins. But dude, like Sam Donald, it's
like y'all all believing this. Dude, Yeah, twelve will get
thirteen good games. Think you're talking about painting you see
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
You're gonna pay this dude. He's been trans for years.
But then a good ass running back or good ass
wide receiver, you don't be paying him. That's why I
hate with all like this. They play these games. Politics
more players in there, it won't be going like that.
Mm hmm. Yeah, Sam, got to show me some Wait
you you from you from uh Texas, Texas? So you're
from Texas. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
I thought you was from Atlanta at first. I've just
lived been living there since two thousand and three. Yeah, man,
and you're from you from my heart as well. North
who's that I doing real estate?

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I mean, so I got got some big ship coming up,
and so right now I'm helping players to go back
home and develop in their hometown because no, I don't
care who the person is. Nobody's gonna be a bigger
star than their hometown. It's not supposed to be, right.
So I'm teaming up with you know, NFL PA, you know,

(01:03:16):
meeting with them and different investors. One of my best friends,
Aaron Donald, he got you know, two affordable projects, right,
so a lot of things are affordable housing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I got like two or three right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Now going and I go to these news neighborhoods, right
I won't even say the names yet, but a couple
of players is really really good. Go to the city,
I meet with them, meet with their mayors and all that,
and we get you know, respectfully, we'll get a discounted
price on lots because we're trying to develop them. You know,
we got money, you know what resource, We're trying to
develop these lots. So just the next you know, Matt

(01:03:50):
Barnes and up up north, they might have a shot.
Because his living situation is not the best. Now he
comes to the projects where it's supposed to be like,
oh we losing the projects to now Oh damn, don't
get in the projects too. Oh yeah, because it's all news.
Marble floor is all that, right, that's dope and some
good money in it. So now you're going back home
helping your community out and you're making money, you know

(01:04:13):
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
So now we slow this narrative of when X players.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
I don't know how basketball it is, but a lot
of dudes they go they got no more money when
they done. So now bro, you're making money and you
giving back to your community, and the NFL could be a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Part of that. I define you about the NFL, and
that's the hardest flaying capital. When you look like us,
you always want to have to put your own money in.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
So I mean I'll do that too, though, Like right now,
before I got like through funding, I was doing a
lot of my own I got a good team behind
me and all that. But I see I've seen them
out of work, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Build your starting offense with NBA players just skilled players,
just skill plus, So like, who would you have as
your tight end?

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
I did this with a Okay, okay, check it out.
Check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I'm gonna say the position, you say the player, Okay,
tight end, and he gotta be some from the NBA, NBA, Yeah, okay,
tight in. I'm going with I need somebody like six
eight small forward.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
I'm going with a hockey more from the Lakers. Yeah,
because he got his body frame. You know what I mean? Alright,
who're going with? Is your quarterback?

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Quarterback? All right? I need somebody that can move around
a little bit throw you know what I mean. I'm
going a man and man as your quarterback. Quarterback, let's
get it. Do you know what I mean? Who's your
running back?

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Oh? I need somebody that's tough, right, but I want
to shift the running back right, little year old step
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
But physical.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Mm hmm, I like brunching up. He I don't know
how fast he is. He quick though, I'm gonna go with.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Nah No, I don't know to take the hits.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Yeah, Tyry nice though that. I'm going Westbrook almost, that's good.
And Peters that's a great pick. That's a great pick.
Okay a p Okay, who's a p who's your receiving you?

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Man? You know who's your receive three receivers. Okay, all right,
I'm gonna go with a shah mm hmm. Okay, that's
you know, I mean, he got that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
I'm gonna go with him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
He's gonna be in the slot though. Now I just
want to outside. I need a bigger body, you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Know, go get her.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Mmmm no, check that check that, check that check that
he want I want to I'm going bron Okay, waiting,
I'm going a slot, big body older. Now he ain't
really now he kind of possessed and receiver breaking down. Okay,
and then my fast ball. I need a fast ball.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Oh what's dress boyfriend name? Because that he lets you know,
Jayden jay Jayleen Green. You know what I know, nigga.
I know he is young. I know he's nice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Yeah, it's respect. I mean that if you if you
go to, hey, what's the trade, young boyfriend? You know
what I mean? Anyway, But Jayleen Ja Jayleen Green look athletic, crazy,
athletic fast.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
He's fearless and he don't care what nobody think. He's
gonna ball out.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
I like him, all right, since you since she did that,
let's go to Billy up ultimate running back.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Whose speed would he have? That's football. Yeah, all right,
speed who speed with? Yeah, that's me running back. They
gotta be either Jamier Gibbs because his current or Chris Johnson.
Size size man, I'm going with. I'm going with be small.

(01:08:19):
I'm gonna stay there. Henry, that's too big. You know
what I'm saying. He's only him a strength, Adrian Peters
Peter strength. Yeah, yeah, vision, my vision.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
I was about to say that, I knew you, about
to say that, take glass. You can see your vision
on my eyes low, but he said, come on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Stack TV going wrong. So Shady's vision? Whose hands? Marshall? Easy,
easy call, easy call all you can go to the Damiens.
They both had hands not getting at the backfield the day.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
It was crazy, right, But I think Marshall's yeah, feet,
wait before I moves in it. Yeah that's no, no, no,
no no, yeah, moves her in feet? Oh damn so
move so yeah, Barry saying yeah, easy and dog.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
I got to I got one main man, Frank Gore, Frank,
I like you. I was gonna say, Walter Payton or
what's a good one. I was gonna say bo Jackson
dog no dog dogs, Walter Payton and uh nobody did
Brian Yeah, through his chest, Mike Austin, Jim Brown, that's

(01:09:49):
hell of running back. The second you said, Jim Brown,
Jim Brown, Campbell? What Campbell? Jimmy Jimmy was He's just respected,
But I know he was nice.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
He was as big as the lineman, you know what
I mean, Earl Campbell, Alter Peyton, he put hen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Arl Campbell was dangerous. What do you think about the
boy from Arizona State? He got dog? Yeah, he got dog.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
He showed me that because he was doing a lot
of crying and wine and the ship the whole game
or the first half and the second half.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
He just stopped crying and he started throwing passes. What's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:10:29):
He was real, but he did turn on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
He got a chance in the league. Who's scannable? Uh
he uh that's a great question.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
I got the same question about gent Yes, just yes,
I think you don't think he got a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
But let me just say, hear me out because it's
sometimes we're like, you don't think the dude can, and
then he do it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
But I think he's a you ever see like a
really good college play?

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean? So he's
like that because I don't even super quick.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
I was watching this game. He don't really read the
holes well. And he's big in the league. They big
too though, like all that. You know what I'm saying,
you know, and if I was about explosion and you know,
I just I don't know. He ain't showed me showman's
really talented.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
For you want to see, yes, you want to see.
Gonna be all right. He didn't show. He didn't show
no talent. He just did everything out there on the
field doing the game. What I'm saying, he did everything, bro.
He liked t bow like t BO was good at that.
I'm good at college. He did everything out there, receiving,
throwing them off, running, and he did it all quick
hitter his first thing to come to mind. Let us know.
Top five running backs of all time?

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Get serious, Barss Sanders, Adrian Peterson, Marshall, fault La, Damian Thomason.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
I like and I love O J. I know because
of the juice I used to drink or juice. My
dad said, you're gonna drink oh J juice. You did
one album you can listen to with no skips.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Man, Okay, this is that's my Lane. So I grew
up a fifty cent fan, so get rich of trying.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
I'm gonna go there. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.
Uh Biggie, I love Biggie. Uh hm nahs, I'm gonna
go with what is that? It was red, it was written,
it was Crazy Ji's album.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Uh that ship first motivation. I still see that drink.
I like these Coast Trapper do worry about this? I
don't listen to West Coast. I know com dudes like
Kendrick's nice.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
You know what I'm saying. But I like music. Who's
Who's your childhood crush? Oh? Check? Oh? I hit my
childhood crush twice. I can't put it on. That sucked
it up. But she was, she's to be bad as fuck.
What did she do though? What did she do? It
was an actress? Okay, she was bad as ship when
I had her.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Now she's oldest and she reached for everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
That's w a your child question. Everybody can't say that
what I mean she was? She can to. I da,
I'm trying. I'm twenty one twenty. That's why. Because she
was older, way older than me. Some dread ship.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Five dinner against that are alive. You plus five at
the dinner table, say five dinner guests. Oh, it could
be like famous or anybody. Yeah, anybody want at your
dinner table.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Oh man uh mister Lorrie he was owner. Uh h uh,
my parents okay, uh and then my kids. That's fine. Yeah,
we never nothing like that. That's fine. Family people you love.
If you didn't play in the NFL, I want to answer, yeah,

(01:14:10):
I don't know. What would be your job? What would
you do? Yeah, because we might be workers, like co workers, teammates,
We might be teammates.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
Ye like yeah, I mean you might be yo, get
back on defense.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
You might be doing that.

Speaker 6 (01:14:27):
Yeah crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
The person talking about now you know what for real?
For real, Yo, I would be I would be bird
Man that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Yeah, I'll be signing all the rappers in the city, city, state,
the state. You know, I mean putting our young boys on.
I'm a real leader. Yeah, how about I see.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
He was like, hey, man, I love the show. You
got get a real nigga on there so much.

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
So you don't bury it all smooth. I'm not yet
who you got, mom?

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
What you got? I'm like, yeah, real niggas on taught
that football. I taught that sports ship. I'm like, niggas,
you got a line for me. He's literally like like
what me. You know what I'm saying. You know, I'm
gonna get with you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Like the producers like sure want bird man this after
he was getting all crazy, don't even want to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Show bird shout bird. That's that's the O. G Oh,
that was some funny ship. He said that that seemed
like a basketball game, saying that ship, what's your guilty pleasure?
What you mean? Exactly what I asked. Somebody said yesterday
said pussy, what's your guilty pleasure? That's crazy, man, my mom.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Guilty? You know this is this is crazy. But like
I'm gonna say success, okay, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
You be feeling like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
You can't even really even like because I'm a natural
talk I talked ship, you know what I mean? And
sometimes people like this is he's so arrogant, but my
ship really be like.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Yeah, like little celebrate cats.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
You know it's crazy every time I use you all
these examples, you know, people that got chemistry is doing anything.
But you know, but but yes, process because you felt bad,
like damn dog, you know I made it and like
my main man didn't and it's a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
I'm buying what I want. He can't. It's like I
like that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
I did that one guess that you would like to
see on All the Smoke, But I had a couple
seen post. But you have to help us get your
answer on the show. I don't even know that Zel,
but somebody else promised was Will Smith wherever you at. Yeah,
you promised to get this Zel on the show, Will Smith,
and we haven't seen you heard from you? So brother brother,

(01:17:07):
rather than rather that he was that babe. You know
we'll be in the game now. He gonna be the
ego game to get with him. You know, I want
to see wom because I want to. I want to
hear what they got to say. Is one of my
good brothers, my Adrian Browner. Yeah, Abs got a real story.
You do you get shut out? Different a great superstarter?

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
You know what I mean? I need I need to
get him on my boxing show for sure. That's my man.
I'm a proash hit him up bout it. I mean,
I hope you'll get him on that's my man.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Yeah, yeah, bro, man, we appreciate you man, congratulations and
all the success. Yeah, It's been fun man, watching your
growth and working together. We're looking forward to hopefully doing
some more stuff in twenty twenty five with you, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Got to continue success. The crush was crazy though. Yeah, man,
I want that gumbo you talking. I'm gonna make it
right now. I'm gonna make it right now. That's around Judy.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
Oh wait wait, hold, I got the book though, I
got the book.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
I need another gift. Yeah, I got the book. A
ready as some dripping. There's some dripping there. It's in
my living room. Okay, Yeah, I appreciate you. We appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
All my people, dog okay, all right, Oh yeah, we
got the Philly loves all the smoke right here. Wait
yeah wan to y want to the drink and it's
Eagles Green to the game that you have to work
that came out that the game Allian Wall out there?

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Oh they okay, yeah, going right up to the playoff game.
Shout out to our sponsored draft Kings. The Crown is yours,
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Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
All the time I got to read. I gotta read
all the all the joints, so I know, yeah, crown
is yours. Deshon didn't read no, none of them, read
them all, read them all. You can sell the Draftking
Network and all the Smoke productions you too.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
See y'all next week.

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