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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fifty percent year, I love you fifty percent to sit down.
Didn't become the most prominent form your ass up early
in the morning. But they told me it was. Y'all said,
hell yeah, I'm getting three people's short morning. Everybody is

(00:23):
dj M v Angela Ye, Charlemagne the guy. We are
the breakfast club. We got some special guests in the
building from the fake h you count University, Jamilla Lemu,
good morning, Amber Phillips and Philip. I don't know what
school you with, Damba. I went to a small women's
college in Pittsburgh called Chatham. Chad, good morning. I know

(00:47):
you're gonna bring Amber Jamiller. Yeah, like that. But you
said you bring any black woman you want. I said,
I'm bringing am. Absolutely controversy for Jamilla. They get up here,
Jamilla and Amber. That was when Charlotte Mayne was pictured
with Tommy Laren. They were some laughing emoji saying I

(01:08):
don't see color, do you? Yeah? Jamilla, tell us about
that struck a chord in you, because it struck a
chord in me too when I first saw it. If
George W. Bush gave us one good thing and his
whole presidency, it was we don't negotiate with terrors. When
you take somebody who has said things about our people
that are so racist, that are so hateful, that are

(01:29):
so lacking in value, we don't need to sit with
somebody like that to understand why she feels the way
she does or where she's coming from. And if we do,
it's not on a platform where we're laughing and joking
because the things that she says, she's not coming up
with them on her own. She's not the architect, she's
not the head of any of this. But she is
making this very dangerous rhetoric normal and comfortable. Right. So

(01:53):
she's a cute girl. She looks like any other little
blond twenty something you can follow on Instagram. So her
saying that gold further with young folks, particularly young white kids,
that it does coming from an ad culter or Donald Trump.
She's making it cool. She's making it sexy. When you
give her a platform and joke around and palle around
with her as if she's anybody else you have a

(02:14):
disagreement with, that legitimizes her in ways that I don't
think we should. And what we were all so upset
with you about so much of what she said and
people like her was about black men, you know what
I'm saying, like the idea that black men are inherently criminal,
and so when black women got mad, it was like
a Charlomagne and hell with him, blah blah. It's like

(02:36):
it was a lot of that. But it's coming from
a place of we're defending you. When somebody's comparing the
Black Lives Matter movement to the Clue Klux Klan, that's
putting us in danger, but that's putting you in danger too.
We're standing up for you. We're saying, look, we love
our men. We don't want you all to be brutalized
by the police. This is somebody who's made light of

(02:57):
young men and women. Of course, we're particularly man being
killed by the police and harassed by the police and
stopped them for us. And when you joke around with
that and say ha ha, we you know, we can
keep key and make little Black Penis Matter jokes and
all that stuff, it's hurtful to people who are literally
putting their lives on the line. I'm a journalist, I'm
a writer. She's an activist. They're people who are spending

(03:18):
and they're not famous, and you don't see them on
Seeing In or MSNBC. They're spending nights weeks in jail,
they're losing their jobs, so they're not out there at all.
The attempting that, well, why isn't there any woke the
black and her span women. But they are out there.
But that's not what I said, though. But I do
feel like we should poke holes in her narrative any
chance we get, because she does have the voice of
young people. She's gonna be a voice for the conservative

(03:40):
right for the next four I think she needs not
in a joking manner, right, It's not. I'm a guy
that can go from serious. I can go from righteous
to ratchet real quick, right, I think so coming from
my perspective. I'm also known as a high priest, is
a Black Joy on our podcast called the Black Joy Mixtape.
And there's a way to do both, right. I think

(04:02):
there's this assumption around That's why I'm so thrilled to
be here. There's assumption around black feminists that we're just
sitting in our rooms reading Audrey Layd being so serious
all the time. But we listen to you right like
we were laughing. Just we've used are you done? Or
are you finished? Several times in our own organizing spaces.
That's why we talk about black Joy a lot, because
there's room to joke with it, but there's also room

(04:24):
to make sure that she doesn't leave your platform feeling
more confident than before. She went back on her platforms
and said all these terrible things about Trevor Noah, saying
that he basically wasn't black enough. She made comments around you,
and I think she clearly didn't learn anything from being here.
But all I'm saying is the conversation that we had

(04:44):
was me sitting there explaining to her why her rhetoric
is dangerous to black people, especially black men, Like we
had these It's not even the first of all I've
had this conversation with her. I had this conversation with
her back in February and a public platform when I
was on her show on the Blaze Network, And then
when I saw what she said on Trevor Noah, I'm like, yo,
she still doesn't get it. So since she's not coming

(05:05):
to the breakfast club, let's sit down and have a
conversation so I can explain to her why her rhetoric
get so dead. But what does it mean? To offer
her friendship outside of holding her accountable. A big piece
in the movement that we talk about is like we're family,
were this, but in order to be family have to
struggle together. And honestly, there are just people with whom
you can't reason, you know what I mean. I think
it's the moderates that we might be able to have

(05:27):
some success with because they didn't show up by the
droves to protect us from Donald Trump. You know, a
whole lot of white voters stay at home. And I
don't think she can be reached in a fun, cool
hip hop space. I don't think she can be reached
by Trevor Noah, who's very conciliatory and all we have
to do is listen to each other. But what your
audience needs, I think it's for you all to just

(05:48):
really understand the power that you all have in radio.
People come here to talk to millennials, So what are
you going to talk to millennials about? And for years, Charlomagne,
I felt like, on the various shows that you've done,
a lot of people I can't believe you like him.
You know, he's problematic, he says. I'm like, he's complicated,
like a lot of people, but I've heard you so
many times to be the voice of reason, particularly around
issues of race. That's why I was so personally hurt

(06:09):
that this was the person that you wanted to joke
around with and is really based on hate and ignorance,
and people that believe those things feel like she's their spokesperson.
And if she doesn't have that, she doesn't have that
platform anymore. She already has a platform. And that's why
I made the comment I made, which was not meant
to be offensive in any way, shape or form. Are
discredit any black women high span of coming. I just

(06:29):
feel like we need an online news network with news
pundits that can combat that young voice that's going be
coming from the conservative right for the next four years.
And I think that we have that, you know what
I'm saying. It doesn't like we don't get boosted up
in the way that she does because we don't represent
what she does and in our community, we don't have
the money and resources. But like, look at me, I

(06:50):
started my career with the blog. I'm thirty two years old.
I'm a media executive, right like I I'm in a
position to hire other people to hire editors, to assign
work and we have big plans for next year at
Interactive one. You look at Crystals, right, you look at
Francesca like you look at all these look at Amber.
We are building platforms now again. We're not gonna get
put on a blaze. We're not getting shows on MSNBC

(07:13):
like we were a few years ago. So what we
need now more than ever, is not to boaster somebody
like her up by giving her access to your space,
but to boaster somebody like Amber. Right, so right now,
maybe it's like, look, once a week, we're gonna do
a fifteen minute Black Lives Matter. Just check in, We're
gonna talk to an activist. We're gonna talk to a
journalist and just kind of talk about what's going on.
You have you have. But I think it's like making

(07:36):
it a concert, like this is the thing that we're
calling it what it is, and we're saying every Thursday,
this is your black lives you know whatever, check in,
But trust black women like and I totally apol I
didn't look at Crystal in that way, Francesca in that
way like I'm thinking news pundit, but in the way
they are the absolutely are. So how do we help

(07:58):
them amplify their voice, you know, like allowing like when
you have me on your MTV show, it was something
terrible happened, somebody had gotten killed. I was kind of
brought in to be the voice of read now, not
to tell jokes, and I tell drunks and stuff too.
I'm ratchet, I you know, like you know, like I'm
breaking a girl and I'm not dressed up. You know,
I can't even in my tents, But like I want

(08:19):
you all, Like I think like everyone's saying this assumption
that you know, we're all just so angry all the
time and we're mad. It's like, yeah, we're angry in
the way that everybody in this room is angry because
there's things that are happening in the world that are
bad and scary. But we're also regular girls, you know,
and folks that listen to hip hop and listen to
you all who deserve to be hurt. And I just
think that, like I feel for Angelas sometimes, so I'm

(08:40):
like just being the only woman in the room period.
It's always hard. But with something like that, knowing that
other black women were hurt and offended by something that
you did quite innocently and honestly, I don't think you
go out of your way to say things to hurt
black women, to get outraged, but when you do it,
it's just how you receive what we say. So that
I appreciate you having us here to don't go anywhere.

(09:01):
Jamilla Lemiue, Amber Phillips is the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
What y'all is TJ MV heybody name of Charlemagne the
Gut and we just want to say happy holidays from
all three of us, all y'all to Breakfast Club. I
don't want to get everybody as DJ Envy angela Ye,
Charlemagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. We have

(09:22):
Jamilla Lemiue and Amber Phillips in the building. What do
you think it is Dunky of to day when he
get himself Dunky today. I appreciated it. I think there's
a little bit of you know, I was wrong, but
but the butt was I was actually trying to empower us,
like I was saying, let's create a platform with young

(09:42):
black Hispanic women to be a voice like Tommy Long.
I think I know what I'm saying. You said lifetime,
but don't even bring her name. But think about how
she became a voice. It's like Facebook. Do y'all realize
how much power y'all have on social media? Even when
y'all talk about like Tommy. Tommy used Facebook to get popping.

(10:04):
Nobody watches the Blaze. She took her little clips, put
them on Facebook. They got popping. Y'all make things trend
in moments. I've been trending for two weeks. Yeah, I
never snuber one on Facebook. All the interviews I've done TV,
I've done never until Black Women collectedly came together and
said we're gonna try to get him about it the paint.
Don't get that with in Secure on Sundays number one
trending Scandal, how do you murder? Y'all can do that

(10:26):
for you, turning into opportunities. Look at Lovey and I
think you all had it back and forth about the
word females. Right. She's a New York Times best selling author.
Now you know she started a blog. She was funny.
She's a social media strategist. She tweeted about Scandal. I
feel like loves like half the reason Scandal blue all
the way up. I heard her. I hit her book
in my house too. I'm not gonna lie to you.
My wife bought her book and I hit it. I'm not.

(10:48):
I think you should have her on your show and
talk to her. You know what I mean, because if
you will talk to somebody like Tommy, talk to your sister,
even when when you make us man, when we make
you man, we need to be able to talk to
each other because no matter how deep our differences are,
we're family. She's not your family. But I just recognize
y'all power, like y'all could trump her easily because of

(11:11):
the power you'll have on social media. I feel like
social media is the engine. We just have to create
a car. I think we do have to create an
online news network and say yes, Jamila is a news
pointing now, Christian is a news pointing now. Our Francesca
is the news pointing now. I really think we need that.
I mean, and I'm working I run one of the sites.
I am in charge of this news one dot com.
We're building out a big news site like I'm on that.

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But I think it's really important that you understand where
your family just going forward, and how you talk to
female celebrities and how you respond when male celebrities come
in here and say certain things about women. Understand that
black women live and die for our men, literally absolutely,
and we deserve that. In response, where did this narrative

(11:54):
that black men treat white women better than black women
come into play observation? I don't know. I don't know
about you going on white girls with the girls that
we would sweat out if you didn't do that. They
like when that black man makes it, he gets too
white women. That's been Kanye West of himself. I wasn't
from Queens and I went to Hampton University, like there

(12:15):
wasn't too many white women, you know, growing up, and
my mom and papa listened like automatically, you're black, you're
gonna stay with black. That's how I was raised, brought up.
The old in the hood was the white girl, the
wh white girl that wanted to hang around. This is
a a male privilege moment my whole life. I never
is there certain things Black women were here, That's what

(12:37):
we've seen on TV. Women were here like you know
what and that, and that's interesting. As far as treating us,
you know, treating white women better, I think that there's
a space at times that it's made to engage them
and hear them out which is why somebody they're just
white female privilege. They're particularly a good looking quote unquote
white woman likes Tomie Has and so if she looks okay,
I mean, she's not what beautiful is to me. And

(12:59):
I certainly know that I'm not what beautiful and that's
totally fine. But I know that she exists in the
world where she is treated as a very pretty woman.
If she were the three hundred pounds of bad acne,
she probably would not have been introduced to you. She
wouldn't have been introduced to Trevor Noah, and she wouldn't
have blown up in the way that she wouldn't be
the face of anything, right, But just being willing to

(13:22):
have that conversation with her, like this isn't the first
time that black women had really come for you on Twitter.
And again, yes, she've had me on your show. I
reached out to you about something in particular. I hope
we get a second to talk about that about being
on the show. You've been respectful to me. To be fair,
I'm already an industry person, you know what I mean.
I'm easier to talk to people perceiving me a little
bit differently than they do folks like Ambert, but I

(13:42):
hate Ambo. We did we have still talked too. Yeah,
the black Joyments say would love to still talk to
Charlottagne Like this is such an opportunity. I do not
take it lightly at all, But I appreciate this so
much because again, your platform reaches the people who we
want to activate. The folks who listen to this show
are the people who I will help to register to

(14:02):
vote or who I will help to turn out to
say her name rally. And that's just such a critical point.
And again it can be all done. People consume politics
and culture at the same time. Right, Donald Trump will
be on The Apprentice apparently doing politics and pop culture
from the highest level, so why not us as well?
I agree, don't go anywhere. Jamilla Lemieu, Amber Phillips is

(14:24):
the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Happy holidays, wishing you and
your family the very best this holiday season from all
of us here at the Breakfast Club. To Breakfast Club
and the morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne
the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We have Jamilla
Lemieu and Amber Phillips in the building. Now, okay, so

(14:46):
what is it that you wanted to bring up so
we make sure we get yes. So I reached out
to Charlottegne after Nick Cannon was on the show. Nick
Cannon Yes, because of some of the things he said
about planned parenthood and black genocide. And I know that
you've had other on this show. I'm not even gonna
call them out by name who also speak to that
same way of thinking. And it's dangerous. So as somebody

(15:07):
who he talks about planned parenthood being black genocide, particularly
about abortion, think about all the stuff they deal with
planned parenthood and all of that type of stuff. That's
that's that type of stuff is to take our community
and forget gentrification. It's real, it's real genocide. And it's
been like that for years. This system is not built
for us. I am of the belief that is incredibly

(15:30):
important that black women have access to reproductive health care
planned parenthood, which I do not work for them. I've
done work with them, I've spoken some of their conferences,
I've been on panels with them. They provide so many
people in our community, men and women and gender nonconfirming
people with access to STD and STI testing, to breast screening,

(15:53):
birth control condoms, things that people need to have healthy
sexual lives, and what we know is that the majority
of adults of you know, childbearing age, are sexually active. Now,
I don't expect everybody to share my views on abortion.
I understand that that is a moral decision that each
individual has a right to make. But when you take
a huge platform, and you're a huge celebrity and you

(16:15):
say something like Planned Parenthood has advocated for black genocide
or represents black genocide, that's simply not true. And I
don't like always deferring to the three percent number, but
it don't Abortion only represents three percent of the business
a Plant Parenthood. Most plan Parenthood locations do not provide abortions.
I don't like saying that number because it also implies
that there's something wrong with abortion. And people also need

(16:37):
more access to abortion care, and they should have access
to abortion care. And if we think that there's this
myth that abortion is just birth control for irresponsible black
women having a whole bunch of sets, it's a lot
of things to a lot of people. But most of
the people who who have abortions are already raising children.
This is somebody making a decision that for economic reasons

(16:58):
for personal reasons. They're not interested in bringing another child
into the words women that are married and they're struggling
financially and they decide, Okay, we don't want to have
another child and disagree with Black women having abortions. Why
I'm just messing with y'all. Job I say, I was like,

(17:26):
but why? But also, in Nick Cannon saying that Plan
Parenthood is supporting Black genocide, what that lands on the
eras is that Black women are supporting the killing of
our community. And we just know that's not true. Black
women are making the best decisions they can with the
resources they have. And actually, if black if Nick Cannon

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would like to lead a conversation on reproductive healthcare, we
can talk about how there's grown men out here who
still don't know how to put on a condom the
right way. In fact, that is way more effective than
you saying that we're killing our kids and our communions
and the wrong size kindom. Damn well, you know, damn well,
you know, do you you think kindoms are systemically uncomfortable for

(18:07):
black men? We should do a condom demonstration right now
because of that, you know, you know what balls me
know about our community? I feel like when somebody in
our community says something that most of us are, majority
of us don't agree we attack. It's attacks. Have a
problem with that because they might not know, they might

(18:28):
not have the information, they not might not be educated.
So I feel like when they attack, people are scared
to see what they really feel and never know what
they're feeling. You know it's coming from a personal place,
because it's not that. And they said he agreed with
stopping frisk a couple of crazy I mean, but I mean,
when somebody tries to kill you and you have four
bullet holes in your car and you know you're trying
to go home to your family, you say things that

(18:49):
make your emotional that and that's what it was. That's
one of the things people used to say the breakfast
clubs problematic. NVA agrees with stopping frisk. Charlemayne Field black
women don't have no platforms. But also think about where
those attacks are coming from, right, I think there are
some folks who are definitely just popping off to be
popping off. The attacks are coming from people who are
also trying to save their own lives. Right There are
a lot of people who are not here right now
because of stopping frisk if we're using that example, right,

(19:12):
we know Eric Garner is gone. We know that there
accounts from I'm from Columbus, Ohio to mere Rice isn't
here right now. So the reason why people are coming
out and they're saying, hell, no, you're not going to
say this is because we're scared, and like you're saying, like,
there's there's two sides of this, right, you want to
protect your family too, And there are people who are like,
we're dealing with this at every side, right, and we

(19:34):
don't have as bigger platforms as we need to to
get the communications right on why our lives are important.
So I would see the attacks as a conversation for
you to ask, say more why people might have been
stopped in frisk and had their own personal situations right
that happened, because I mean, you talk to somebody that
was on both sides, but right, I'm sure it's numerous times,
and that's been I feel for y'all. You know. The

(19:55):
sad thing about it is a lot of the information
that you look up a line, a lot of it's
not true, a lot of it's not accurate. So you
think it's true, you think it's accurate. You think it's
doing a good thing. And what happened was me being
in the community doing these talks and doing shows. I
would have women that would come up to me who
had kids that have been killed from stopping frisk or
teachers that said, my students are linked because of stopping people.

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They go to jail because they had a little weed
on that. So that you opened up and makes you
think about it and it changes your mind. And it
had nothing to do at old they were own envy.
But I think a lot of these times conversations need
to be It's so important to have the conversation with
our folks, and to keep having these conversations with art folks.
Like even back in the day when you had the
debates with um Malcolm X and James Baldwin, like you

(20:39):
brought more black people and more black intellectuals together so
that we can get to the heart of this. That's
worth having now more than ever. The call to have
politicians on here, to have funds, you know, and to
not I know, if I'm just saying, like in addition
to that, when somebody calls you out for something that
you said, that's not the time to lash out. Oh,

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that's not the time to get mad. It's to do
what we're doing right now and have a dialogue about it.
All right, Well we got more dialogue when we come back.
Don't go anywhere, Jamilla Lemieux, Amber Phillips. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, what's up y'all? Liss Angela ye you, Wishing
you and your family the very best this holiday season
from all of us here at the Breakfast Club. The
Breakfast Club wanting everybody is DJ m vy angela Ye,

(21:26):
Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now. Usually
we do the rumors here, but we're pushing the rumors
back because we have these lovely ladies joining us from
the fig h U Jamie La Lemieux and Amber Phillips. Now, Charlemagne,
I get everybody to benefit of the conversation because I
have any conversations change some people over the years, like
I've like I can look at Lena Dunham. Lena Dunham
got that lasting on social media and she immediately but
she's around people. She understands how black women have been

(21:51):
excluded from the feminist feminism rhetoric for so long, and
she's trying to include them now, like I've seen it
literally change people over the years. So I give everybody
to benefit of the conversation if they don't change up
to that. That's how I feel about Tommy anybody else,
and that's how people feel about you, you know what
I mean. I mean, I know there are certainly are
people that am like, I'm not going on there. I
wouldn't talk to him, you know, which I think is

(22:13):
silly because it's like, Okay, you disagree with them Hill.
If he gives you acts to his platform, you use
it to say what you gotta say. You go home.
That does not mean that were you know, friends or
that It's like, hell, you know, I wouldn't go on
the Blaze because I don't think there's any value whether
I win the argument or she talks circles around me.
I just feel like nobody's going to really be educated

(22:33):
by that. You don't go to the Blaze to watch
it because you have an open heart, you know what
I mean. It's not even it's it's to the right
of Fox News, right, you know. I just think all
that would happened is that I would get more complete circle.
But like all I would get would be more death threats,
more people harassing me, more scrutiny around what I'm doing.
I'm more concerned with convincing Black people of our own

(22:54):
humanity than I am trying to convince white people of
our human man convincing Black people of all power. We
have power, but we cannot adequately use that power until,
for example, our men really come to terms with the
ways that black women suffer at the intersection of racism
and sexism. How you all can perform that and be

(23:16):
complicit in that. It's not just white men that are
doing us harm. It's not just domestic violence that's doing
us harm. It's how we're treated by people who we raise,
who we nurture, who we date, who we love. That's
not always fair and equal and jest, and so it
can be very small. It could be calling us females
on Twitter. It could be not listening to us. It

(23:38):
could be more, you know, just simply appearing like you're
more open to what tomy than you are to somebody
like us. It could be berating little Mama until she
cries because she's little Mama and she's a punchline. It's nobody.
But then you work in media, so you have to
think about optics. So yes, I can name a lot

(23:59):
of really great interviews you've done since then and times
that you talked to a black women and it was
dope and it was great. But that's the thing that's
in people's memory. So you have to work against So
but that's how imagery works, So you have to work
against that. You can't just be an age from like
I didn't do it. I did it six years ago,
No big deal, forgive me. It's like, forgive me because
of my actions since then, right, you know, maybe even

(24:19):
bringing her on, she's been and I just I'm looking
forward to a spot and we talk about this with
my co host Jasmine Walker. Have to give her a
shout out the King of the South about how we
need to hold the line that if it's not um
liberation just can't be for some black folks. Right, if

(24:40):
we're not extending this to LGBTQ folks, queer trans people,
um women, then it's anti black. That if we can incorporate,
if we can't bring all of us to justice together,
then it's not it's not what we're actually looking for,
which is our collective liberation. Everybody got to make it
to the other side with us. You know, fort you.
I like dealing with women more men anyway. I'd rather
have a bunch of strong women around meeting a bunch

(25:02):
of guys. We appreciate you guys for coming up conversation
so much. This was great and the platform is always open.
Was to look up and Amber like a demo for Amber.
I would look forward to seeing y'all again. I'm ready
put me at the mentorship whatever you need. There's a

(25:22):
bunch of black women behind me who are like, we're
there and we're ready and we're on the front lines
and they would love to talk to you. Oh yeah,
So I'm Amber Jay Phillips online. You can also find
me on the Black Joy Mixtape dot com. We're Black
Joy Mixtape on Twitter and Instagram, and we would love
to hear from y'all and Jamilla. We appreciate you for
joining us too, Baby d On Morning Everybody is DJ Envy,

(25:48):
Angela Yee, Charlomne the Guy. We are the breakfast Club.
We got a special guests in the building beating single
Yeah Morning suf Be. Now, we've had some opinions about
each other over the past off so heard you on
tax Podcasts yeah, and then you know, I was questioning
you with your with your disrecords. Man, it sounded you
sounded like a hater lately. Man, hater? Yeah? How you

(26:11):
say that? Because I feel like, you know, you put
out two disrecords, but then you was in the studio
with me like like eight days prior to the first disrecord,
and I'm like, if anybody else did that, I think
you'd be saying that was a sucker movie that I don't.
I don't. I don't think you qualified even say I
sound like a hater it because you don't know all
the particulars. So how you how you qualified to say

(26:32):
I'm a hater? Hate? On what? Why? I'm just telling
you why? Why? Why? Why do you say I'm a hater?
Because you know everything is that used to be me
and I used to be in that position. And when
did you ever hear me say that? On tax podcasts?
Absolutely you said that you was like, yo, he can't
rap better than me, which could be a fact that
used to be me. People come up to me all

(26:53):
the time and say when you was in that position,
beings things was better. It wasn't like that, dude, do
that sound that's that's a hater or me giving U
some advice to somebody to move a little different. Did you?
Did you? Did you not? Also hear me say I
don't want you to make the same mistakes I did.
So it is that me schooling somebody or sounding like
a hater. That sounds like a no disrespect, But but

(27:15):
then you disrespect them, especially because I mean just for
me president when you say Meek not really like, oh,
Meek not a real person. He never been in the street,
that's cool, but like eight days prior he was in
the studio with him. Yeah, that's why I said that.
You're sitting back, Like I told people, don't let immediate
social media make up your mind. You're gonna buy from
what you're just seeing. You don't know what conversations transpired

(27:39):
before that, what events transpired before that. And like I said,
before I jump out the window for somebody who ain't
gonna even walk out the door. You got to prove yourself, bro,
That's what I meant by that. Like if you've gotten
something and you come and get me, yo, we got
to go do this. Hold up because I know what
I'm gonna do. Got you ride for somebody? You don't

(28:00):
think real like you, because it's bigger. It's bigger than
it's bigger than that particular person. It's for the city.
I'm for my city in a hole, so he's a
part of that, a very important part of the city.
And it's not about me hitting on me. I I've
me totally. But when you do something now and it's

(28:22):
like so like I said, but fo I jump all
the way out and winning because I know what I'm
gonna do one another level, Like it's two levels to
just say, it ain't about music. It's about that and
it's about so whatever. You ain't qualified to ask me
that question. You ain't qualified to get the answer. Bro,
let's rewant it. The game came up here and you

(28:44):
know he did a disrecord going at Meek and then
we heard a Meek record and we heard you on
the record. Yea, so we thought that, I mean, I
think the world thought that you would jump in with
Meek and starting to go at at games. So what happened?
And why did you jump on that record for my city?
But you wouldn't game? Cool? Yeah, because because it's music.

(29:05):
Come on, man, this this think about it game and Meek.
It's music ain't not ain't not gonna transpire from that.
Days later you called him an apologize. No, that's bulls
called whack on the phone that you called get him
on the phone. My questions to them if you standing
on what you're saying, like, I don't want to keep

(29:27):
reiterating this because I think I clarified that once conversations
was going back and I asking the brother, yo, is
this real? Because you can get straightened out on a
different level. So when you say stand down and all right,
were you hand do that? But then when game comes
back and it's like, yo, we gotta do this, No,

(29:50):
we ain't gotta. You gotta handle that, bro. You know
what I mean. You're dealing with two people. You don't
want Mac and you didn't want BEANIEC. So when I see, oh,
this is something being see, I can go on to
booth and slaughter them up right. With the records being said,
we've seen you at the console and people assume that
you were out helping them write raps. Did you gooset

(30:10):
right any of those? A few of them? YEA for
both Meek and o'melli. Yeah, yeah, I mean just just
the whole situation seems shaker. I know you say, I'm
not qualified to speak on it. I'm not. I'm just
observing it. But it just seemed like, you know, loyalty
with you lies with who's providing you opportunity at the time.
Get the man provide me what what? Loyalty who he

(30:33):
ain't provide me no opportunity. He ain't called me and
asked me to do that. I did that. I walked
into Meek wasn't even there. It was just Omelli in
the studio. So I called you to the studio. No,
me called you to the studio. No, it wasn't no call.
Somebody told me, uh little talk me cousin. Yo, O'melli
in the studio. They recording something I go on there

(30:54):
or this is what y'all doing. I wasn't even gonna
get on them. X y Z help you mind. No,
you gotta do this, bro, say that. I went in
a reference to track point and they just kept that
part in there with my vocals. Two bars, that's all
I said. I don't even think it was a whole.
Two part made me even a bar, So I just
kept my voice in it. But I ain't get no
phone called Matt, come help, come ride, come do that.

(31:17):
That ain't go down there in the studio. I went
to the studio. What's the situation? But is it true
that you said that you you just wanted to get
next to him because he wasn't returning your call by
the by the concert or something. It wasn't see my word.
I might have said it wasn't about that, because that's
what made me be like, that's kind of that's real snakes.
If you wanted him ton no, it didn't want to

(31:38):
do it, ain't had about it, and I'm about that
if you if you listen to it to show that
he had that people wanted him to do it was
when I realized it why he didn't want to do
it after the fact he wanted to show because game
was on the same bill. Now which snakes? Which snakes?
Knowing I didn't hear the ninety two parts, if I

(31:59):
would have heard that, I would have said, all right,
you handle that. You know this dude just picked me
up in a record, shout on me out crazy. You
knew that. You know I didn't hear that, So you
didn't hear the record at all before at all? Okay,
So if I tell you, if I tell you, sh
mayn't take this rob with me and did we wind
up going somewhere and then this happened? Liken, you walk

(32:21):
me in. Why you got? You? Got you? Okay? So
with snake? Is that that answer that that snake is? Yeah?
All right? Now what happens? Because, like you said, there's
Beanie Seagull and then there's Matt. Right, we thought it
was Beanie Seagull. We thought it was rapped. Then you
get to a performance and somebody steals you. Yeah, So

(32:42):
now now where is it now? Because it's no longer
Hey man, listen, Now, I'm a rap fan. I'm qualified
to answer this one. As a rap fan. I don't
want to see violence between your brothers, but I also
want to see Beanie Seagull be the Beanie Seagull that
we've heard he's been all these years, but you but
then on the other side of me, like we all

(33:03):
grown now, I don't want to see that. So where
does it stand? I got my moments, I got my
moments if I was going to do it Matt wanted
to do. You weren't hearing on records from me? Come on,
Sean man, you know me. You didn't see me a
hole in the walls absolutely unexpectedly. That's why I wish
shocked that somebody would test you in Philly. I mean,

(33:25):
it can't happen to anybody, anybody Philly. But I was
surprised you by yourself Philly. Yeah, because I've seen you
when when back in the day to Rockefeller Beef and
the Rockefeller mixtapes. If you were buy yourself, you had
a mac on you, yeah, or you had thirty So
what I had say property with me. I was surprised

(33:46):
that you would buy yourself knowing that you were going
there and knowing that he was there, knowing what it was.
He's harmless though me armless, armless, armless boy about to
do that that you got into it with. He didn't
see see you got. You're only seeing what you saw.
You didn't see what transpired from there. I wanted by myself.
I was told my brows, you know what I mean.

(34:08):
He file for two, but let him teller, he's six four.
It was trashed by the little fire for so the
embarrassment set in. You had every opportunity to do what
you what you wanted to do in my face, that's
the only way you can get that off on my
back turn can't get that off in my face. And
this situation sticky because it's close. It's like it ain't

(34:30):
like it was one of meet bons. This is family.
Hi the way, choose the word it or what do
you want to say? This is? It's too close man?
All right, well we got more with Beanie Seager when
we come back. Don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, Hey, Charlomagne the God here, and I just
want to wish a Mary Christmas to all my credit

(34:51):
cards cameras out there this this season, to find you
a scamera friend so you can save some money in
any major department store in America. The breakfas his club,
right and morning. Everybody is dj M v Angela. Ye,
Charlemagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club. Now. Beanie

(35:12):
seagulls in the build and he's clearing up some things.
He's clearing up his beef with Meek Mill. Also the
game now, Charlemagne. So what you hate about the rappers
is the feminization of the rappers. Do you I let
people do that? Man? It's not my boy, it ain't.
I gotta you gotta say which politically, Cray, I just

(35:33):
don't I don't. I don't. I don't care, like, to
be honest with you, that's sad that Yeah, two daughters. Absolutely, absolutely.
The thing with it is one thing out of this
whole situation that I appreciate is the fact that bars
are coming back. I told you that when you set
the record, I was like, this is what the game
has been missing, and not just with you with Meek
Meek spit of freestyle or flex that was dope game spitting, Like,

(35:57):
that's what the game has been missing bars and people
like really putting through it into their lyrics, you know.
And that's the one thing that that made me say,
I'm glad this happened because I haven't heard from Beanie
the way that I wanted to hear from Beanie in years. Yeah,
you said you wasn't gonna do no dis records though,
now you said, yeah, that was that was before I
heard the phone Master flex. Oh okay, yeah, you makes

(36:22):
sense when you put it all together. Yeah, you know,
but what did he say on the flex thing that
really pitched you off? Because I didn't catch it, Shott,
I didn't stopped playing games. Drake threw one at Mathie
threw one that game wasn't stop playing, man. So when
somebody throws one that you you come with three hard ones?

(36:43):
You you you're gonna mean that because it was like
a situation that happened at hand. I got every right
to say you know what and do me and you
ain't gonna be able to stand that. Man. Whoever, do
you feel like you bought this on yourself though? By
being studio with me? If you if you knew me,
if you say Meek, wasn't it real to this whole time?

(37:05):
You know he was? It don't matter. No, ain't know
half of these motherfuckers in the music business same real,
So why be around him? So it ain't about me?
Because he's from Philadelphia. That's why he represents Philadelphia. He's
a voice for Philly right now. That's why. That's why
I being arounding. That's why he like a target because
it's a young flying it with the bad ship. Regardless

(37:28):
if he real, if it's facade, Who cares if I
go in on him all the tax podcast and keep
repeating that he's not real If it don't because because
because the incidents that occurred, that's why a chain of events.
If it wasn't for that, then I want to did that.
He never spoke to him after that. He never had
a conversation after the whole game. And because it seems

(37:50):
like you're all from Philing. Yeah, after after the game thing,
we had a conversation. And when that conversation transpired, he said,
some boys over the photo to Yeah, it was over
the plone. So now you gotta stand on that. If
I felt it distain in my heart towards young and
like I did, it wouldn't be no music. Man, understand,
that wouldn't be no music. But you know, Philly has

(38:12):
always had the reputation that y'all can't get along. So
it's like, right now, it's you're just proving that point
because you got a skin over here talking about you
ain't doing this. It just seemed like none of y'all
can get along. Let's talk about New York. Don't people
go to beef in New York soon? Absolutely Troy having
this one, So can New York get along? No, that's
all right, So don't just make it a focal. Don't

(38:35):
just make it a destroyed New York ultimate leader. All right.
Well that's y'all, So what do you hope to gain
from the situation not gain. I guess what do you
hope for this to accomplish? Would it accomplished? I don't
have no artior mortal come in you the og. So
if you're OG and you're talking to the younger, do
you hope for me to get the game from knowledge
from this or what? Absolutely that's been our conversations prior

(38:56):
to all us through all Its just giving a knowledge
of make the mistakes out there. But I do feel
like he's a punching bag right now. He's yeah, well
like I don't know why they would think that, but
they think he's an easy target because I see when
people go date. So many people have gone at me
trying to knock off his character from where, from everywhere,
anywhere you got to well you got well, you got

(39:17):
to look at it, the raps you here's who you
is when you get off the steps. See, I come
from an era when Nick checked your background. I think
he brought that upon himself. If me gets destroyed or
he doesn't have a career in a couple of years,
that hurts the city of Philly. No, it don't, because
you got a lot of dudes in Philly happen right

(39:38):
and it just be a door open for somebody else
to come from Philly. But you don't think me. After while,
it starts to look like like your emo, like when
something don't go beings way means gets upset, like what
keep harping on that it was with Hole or like
now with me? It's personal, Dog, that's that was personal.
I explained that already. It ain't that about. It didn't
go on, mate, that was personal something between me and

(40:01):
my brother Lie familiar family. Well you think things are
ever truly to say once? Once you do that, because
people look at you like, I don't know if I
can trust me? How you can't trust because it seems
like you just flipped I'm a man about mine like
it's hard to trust somebody. I said, you know, I
know you'll keep going back to this, But it's true.
He was in the studio of me eight days prior that.
We did not just answer that, but you knew you wasn't.

(40:23):
You said he wasn't. You didn't think he was real
when he was in the studio with him, all right,
put it like this, it's Kanye and street Nick absolutely nothing. Huh.
But when Kanye put that phone call in, you know
the stories who was dead and he ain't a street nick,
but he part of part of that finger of ours.
So I took penitentiary chances. He put the call and

(40:44):
I was dead, strapped truth to nail because he a
part of our family. You understand what I'm saying. People don't, don't.
You know how you don't understand because you know why
because you not from that cloth. That's cool. I don't
get you not, that's why you don't understand that. That's
like saying somebody's not a street. They're saying somebody's not
real and a sucker. That's a difference. There's to being

(41:06):
a street and real Kanye, when you portray yourself who
when you portray yourself in a shirt and light, like
you gonna go all the way right there, and you don't.
I got to draw back. So understand that. Like it
don't matter if a person where he could be a square,
But that's my man, that square, that's my man. And
we play video games because that's what he do. And

(41:26):
I want to come and I chill with him. If
he got a problem here, stone cold square, it ain't
you Phil, You I got that. That's what men do.
Now I'm just the type of phone like somebody I
don't pretend to that's just bull. You're a character, that's why.
That's the truth though, your character. He's a time. Life's
too short to be wasting your time with suckers. All
people you think it suckers. So why I'm here? I

(41:47):
think you're a sucker, So I should be out right, Yeah,
I guess, Yeah, I wouldn't. I mean, ask me personally,
I wouldn't say, didn't have a conversation with a sucker. Yeah,
you're sitting here and you're badged a little girl, little
mama to she cried, that's what you do and cowards
me and you're talking to each other. Now, I tell
you that I think. I think you're a hypocrite. Anything
what you want, and I think you'd be coming off

(42:07):
as a hater sometimes moaning. Everybody is dj mvy Angela Yee,
Charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club. Beanie Siegel
is in the building. Now, what's next for you? Musically?
That's the good thing that's going to come out of
head and and that's what I told you. It's good
because we haven't heard Beanie Seagull in a while and
a lot of these kids don't know who Beanie Seagull is. Now,

(42:28):
how is it recorded? With one love? It's hard? Is
it true? You gotta stop in between songs, in between
bars and song twisted because we can tell you even
with your voice. You know your voice is not the same.
Is that bad you at all? Because it's not that same? No,
that's why you hand on music from me, because I
couldn't embrace that. I'm used to going and boofing, going

(42:50):
for four or five minutes straight no breath, and had
a lot of weight on me at the time. It
was rolling like it's my voice. I couldn't hear him
meause I'm used to me sounding a certain where I
couldn't hear man. Then, you know, I just had to
embrace it, like this is what it is. It's it's
hide sound. Because even now when I hear you spit,
I have to get over the voice because it ain't

(43:11):
the same. Yeah, and you you're listening to the balls.
It's the same balls, but not the same voice. Yeah.
The kinds of the music ain't gonna never change. Like
I've been through too much, and the average person I
have been through too much. That's the other thing, too,
you named about four elements you were suffering from when
you was on tax podcast. Did that not make you
want to say, you know what, maybe I need to

(43:33):
calm down on NA on the screet thing. Nah, not
at all, because you wouldn't say that like you saying
that because the incident that occurred. Like I said, I
ain't gonna buy any right mind, gonna stand straight in
front of me and square off. You're gonna catch an
ell I do this. I mean even when something up,

(43:53):
you don't think you'll ever grow out of the screet
thing because I think you heard it on a song. Yeah,
married time I get out, they won't push. I think
we need to make a distinction between real and screen.
I think that's sending the wrong message to the kids.
I think it's a difference between being criminal and being real,
because you could be somebody like Kanye who's a real
individual to himself. You know what he does. Yeah, but

(44:14):
just this is where I come from. This just me,
that's me. I see you. You wouldn't rock with me.
And if I was to be something else, why not.
I like growth. ID like to see people involved. I
think it's whack when you stay in the same place
and look stagnated. I think after while you look corny.
But you've seen over the week and you see the
picture that was posted was a jar rule Dmax a hole. Yeah,

(44:38):
now what do you think about that? Because you've been
around and seen all of this that's going down. That
was good. Same thing when you see me and Jay
on b side, it's good. Have y'all talked since? Yeah,
something gonna come out of that. Uh So it'd be
good for Dyn them just did a bad boy. So

(45:01):
like a fellow you, Hanswald, you've been making comments about
the young rappers too. You don't think you should just
let kids be kids because somebody let you be a
kid once. Nah, somebody needs to talk to the kids.
Somebody need to get them talk about it. I don't
raise the dreads that women like men when when men

(45:22):
started doing that, you had, you had people in the
back of the day like George Clinton. Different is good,
it's good, But when you get to the point whereas
though it's blatant, I shouldn't have to explain to my
son why two men kissing on TV. I shouldn't have
to explain to my son why people wear men is

(45:42):
wearing high You want to would you want to explain
that to your son? Nah? And I don't want to
explain to my son. Why dudes on Instagram? What guns? Either?
We saw you on the ground with two guns up,
like criminalization, criminalization is neither one is good? How that's criminalization?
There was props. I mean you talk about the kids clothes.
You remember you did the state property clothing line. I

(46:02):
remember the interview you did when you said they got
the little compartments to hide your guns and hide your
dope like it could have that that that looks crazy?
And when you think, why Charlotte man shop? What's up?
What's up? What's up? Man? So? What is it? Is
a new project coming out? And are you staying independent
on you signed? What what's the what's the future for
Beanie se Man? I might do it double she they

(46:24):
just music coming out. I'm gonna get back to the
other music though. I just had the lord click on
that side just in case hip hop? So what happens
if me cause you and be like, yo, Mac, what's up?
Let's squatch this put the phone calling, let's sit down
and talk about It's just that simple. It's that easy.

(46:46):
But then but you in your mind. You still think
he's not real, he's a sucker. You just keep saying
that you. I'm not gonna let you put words on
my mouth. You keep you, regardless of you. I'm not
putting one your mother. You said that, regardless you keep
why you keep harping on that. We answer that you like,
So don't talk out to that because you want you,

(47:08):
you want if you're saying you want unity, to stop
keep doing that, man, don't stop playing. It's confusing to
you because you don't know the severity of the situation.
You doing two and a half hour record. You don't
know the severity of the situation. Man. But it can't
be that's too close to home. It's too close song.
We'll see, Like I said, I don't know. I might

(47:28):
not pick that call up, but we'll see, right. I mean,
that'd be the better move. That'd be the smartest move
for me. I don't want to walk a track and
somebody present the rest of my life or I don't
want to do that, So that'd be what Beanie Sig
should do. Like I said, it got what Matt want

(47:48):
to do, but what Banie c you want to do?
It's just that. And I was curious did you speak
to Game or Drake like one of those things just
like his a verse or not hasn't been that way? Mean,
the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Like, yeah, no,
I can't do that. Man, that's being a sucker. I
couldn't do that. I gotta see how that play out. Okay,

(48:10):
So you wouldn't take a versim drink or a versi
from Game going at me. Nah, that's got to be
totally corny and that's some bullshit all and that might
be good for me. I don't know about game, I mean,
but Drake, the biggest thing, what do you think a
game in the stuff? It don't matter what put it?
Like this, I know who who in LA, I know

(48:32):
who anybody can be, anybody behind music. I know my
conversation with Gaining why it would stand down? That's it. Well,
I know I'm not qualified to speak on this, but
you can understand how some people don't think what you're
doing is all the way solid. You might not think that,
but you're not qualified. Dog, you're a rating no personality. Man,

(48:55):
you don't come from my world. You don't come from
you wouldn't understand my world. You don't come from my world.
You don't know nothing about that, man, Nah, I don't yeah,
running come off, man, I don't want to stop running
ship and it's dangerous. It's dangerous, Dub. You're talking about
somebody who went to Wall Police. It's dangerous. Attempting murders

(49:17):
and the height of my career. It's dangerous. You don't
know nothing about that. Man. We should have playing. Your
job is to play games. Play with something safe, man,
don't play with me, all right, Penny single. It's the
Breakfast clubb good morning, good morning, tutute off the red nose,

(49:38):
rid of every side. If you ever saw it, you
wouldn't even say Breakfast Club pitches. Sholo man say the game.
Don't get out of the shape. Man. You are the

(50:02):
Donkey today. Just not discriminate. I might not have the
song of today, but I got to donkey that. If
you ever feel I need to be a Donkey man.
The Breakfast Club bitches they just don't give Today Today. Yes,
Dunkey Today goes to Cat Williams cat pack all day.

(50:22):
Cat is entering red territory when it comes to receiving
Donkey today. He's a repeat offender. I didn't think anybody
could ever receive donkey to day as much as Donald Trump.
But Cat Wims is on his heels. Now if you
haven't heard, a video surfaced online and a forty two
year old grown ass Cat Wims and a physical altercation
with a little boy. Now they say in seventh grade. Okay,
when I say a little boy, I'm thinking maybe eighth

(50:44):
grade at the most tenth. All right, now, first of all,
why was Cat Williams hanging out at what appears to
be a school? Why? No security, no manager, no assistant.
You just at the school posted for what. You're not
picking up new kids, You're not doing community service, So
what in the hell when you posted up at a
grade school for you just randomly at recess? That's number one? Okay,

(51:09):
n number two, Cat Williams sucker punch that little boy
and couldn't even knock him out. Now, I know y'all
saying he had no business punching out boy, and I
would have to say, depending on the circumstances in this case,
I don't think it was justified. But I can understand
the little boy was all in this grill, all in
this personal space. Cat Williams could have just told the

(51:29):
boy back up. Off me. But like I always say,
you never know how someone's gonna react when you do
something to them. Little boy was in Cat's face. Some
of us would have chose to tell a little boy
back up, give me fifty feet. Some of us would
have pushed a little boy back some of us some
of us may have just walked away. Cat Williams chose
to throw a punch. Now, I can't say I agree
or even maybe disagree with him in this situation. I'm
just mad that a forty two year old man can't

(51:52):
knock out a child. All right, Cat Williams at a
close range sucker punch hit him flush on the jaw,
and that little boy wasn't even tickled. That little boy
wasn't moved at all. In fact, the little boy proceeded
the rustle Cat Williams to the ground. Cat Williams was
man handled by a kid, all right. He got a
little boy, handled the young and put Kat Willams in
the crispin water crippler cross face. And then Kat proceeded

(52:13):
to give us some great ad libs. Can we hear
a little a little tussle? Plu? You know what you need?
That little girl look no biby tell me that first.

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That's what happened. Back about me a little boy, I
got to hit him like that comt They didn't do

(53:05):
that to us. Sorry, that's a community. I let a
little boys do that to us, celebrity. He sins high
that tussed is soul music because Kat Williams punched a
little boy. But he quickly realized he was in over
his head. He went from get your dumb ass out
of my face. The really little boy really, you know
the type started fighting. When they started getting their ass washed,
it turns to chill out. Stop, you're going too far.

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I can't be mad at the little boy for defending himself.
That's what he's supposed to do to a forty two
year old grown man. Okay, grown man, put their hands
on you, and they're not your daddy. Do what this
young man did. Put him in the bob backling cross face,
chicken wing or maybe it was a million dollar dream.
Whatever the move was, Kat Williams tapped out. Let me
tell you something. When you get beat up by a
little boy, and you got a little boy at home,

(53:47):
your kids won't respect you anymore. How As a parent,
you gotta threaten your kids, especially in your little boys
and telling them I bought you into this world and
I would take you out. But when they realized that
you really can't take them out, because you can't even
take out this little seventh grader that's his age and
his size that you sucker punched. Jesus christ Man got
here a little bit of the tussle again, just a

(54:07):
little bit, just a little bit broke. They can't do
that to a Maybe this was a sketch, you know,
you know what pissed me off. But first of all,
finances don't mean nothing when it comes to fish fighting. Okay,
you think because I'm broke, I won't put the beats
on you and how you financially flexing on the seventh grader.
That little boy isn't Saint wester Blue I view, why

(54:29):
would he be balling in the seventh grade. For you
to even try to justify that ass whipping with money
shows how much of a sucker you are. Cat and
you're asked the wrong question. The question shouldn't be y'all
let a little broke boy jump on a celebrity like that.
You should have been asking yourself, why am I a
rich celebrity risking my freedom? And my finances because you're
gonna get sued. Why am I risking my freedom and
my finances fighting a little boy? This Cat Williams story

(54:51):
is not going to end well. People and want to
get into all you idiots who love to defend Cat Williams.
Donkey ass. Please remember it's not the media, it's not
the illuminatty. This is nobody's fault, but Kat Williams. Please
give Kat pack all day the biggest heat Hall Police.
I guarantee you when Kat Women's asked about this, he's
gonna say, y'all know, I couldn't beat up no little boy,

(55:12):
even though he swung on him first. Yea, he definitely couldn't,
he might say. After he swung on him, he realized
he was a little boy, so he fell back. Yeah right,
Kat No, Yeah, that that boy had him choked up crazy.
I know his parents are very proud of him. Whoever,
this little boy's parents are cat women sitting on the
ground breathing hart reevaluating his whole life. Morning. Everybody is
dj Envy Angela. Ye, Charlomagne the guy. We are the

(55:33):
breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. Man.
I thought I thought it was in jail, Stevie j
I did was jail. Now I'm not in jail. You know,
I got a brace on the the put you on
house arrest. I mean the child support thing. I remember
you did the video. It sounded like you was like
saying you was about to go away. They wanted to

(55:54):
lock me up. But you know, thank god they didn't
lock me up. I'm out here with my kids, so
I'm happy. Did you. Oh they said you a million
dollars you paid everything? Yeah, they said an old a
million a half. But it's looking like nothing close to it,
you know what I'm saying. But we're gonna take care
of that and keep it pushing. How do you get
to a million and a half? I didn't even get
to that number because you know, they had the default
judgment against me, like I was Kobe or something for
like fifteen thousand a month. But you know it wasn't

(56:17):
really that number. So they found out the right number.
So it's looking more like under a hundle. See that
the curse of reality TV because it's a lot of
fame that comes with it. So I guess big Mama,
thank you. Yeah, I feel like that's the curse of
the nineties being hot in the early two thousands, and
everybody think you're getting fifty million dollars off of the
royalty every other day. Yeah, I mean the money was good,

(56:37):
but it wasn't once and fifteen thousand a month in
Child Player. You ain't ever shooting no jump shots, no, no,
no jump shot. All right, now, let's discuss this because
I saw the ultimate baby shower over the weekend for Joscelyn,
but you weren't there. But you were just with Jocelyn
the other day. That's your baby. First of all. I
mean we're gonna see. Can't you get a test while

(56:58):
the baby's still inside? Yeah? We did that. Results come
back tomorrow. Oh tomorrow, you should have tomorrow, the results
come back. I wasn't there, you know. I mean, she
was all good just a week ago. It was I
saw you. She was cooking for you. Yeah, you know.
And then her brother went with me to the gym.
He came buy my house, and he came up my

(57:20):
house and saw one of my artists leaving and told
her it was Tommy. You know how her and Tommy
don't get Tommy was having sex with each other, right, yeah,
that but um, I missed that. But you know, he
told it was Tommy, but it wasn't. He just went
back and just after we went to the gym, he
I dropped him off at the mall. He like, Yo,
Tommy was at the house and just started her the
wild you know what I'm saying, for no reason, and

(57:41):
you shouldn't do that when she's not much pregnant. So
do you even love your sister to do some fire
stuff like Stevie, you ain't got a lot of us
now that I understand, that's a good lot of tell.
But Tommy, y'all in the trailer for your new show.
So that's like my niece. You know what I'm saying. Nothing,
He didn't even say my nephew. That's why, Oh what

(58:01):
happens in jail? You know what I'm saying. She dated Simmons,
Like we're just family. That's sitting that she scrappers in jail. Yeah,
but knowing that Jocelyn doesn't like that, is it weird
that you would be cool and or even have a
rail business? Is business? Really? So she could be cool
with people that you don't mess with it, and she
she messed with what's your clowns? I'm us with Now,

(58:22):
well what clowns? Because we heard you didn't like young Droe. Okay,
who's that? Young Joel was running around with Joslyn and
I saw he said, I'm here for whatever you need.
He had posted man listen man. But let me ask
you this. In an ideal world, she wouldn't run around
deal world. But people you don't like that, you wouldn't
run around take care of their own children and our
jail world before they try to take care of other people.
So you're saying, young girl don't take care as kids.

(58:44):
That's well, remember young j FDB because his baby mom
wouldn't let him see his cow. You know, I'm just blessed. Hey,
what's up? Stevee? Savannah, um Shot day Eva, Dory and
all my kids. Go ahead. This is the guy that
you don't claim not to know this young girl. You're
not gonna be beeping with Stevie J. Are you. That's

(59:04):
one thing I told him I would not do. Okay,
I don't talk it alone because I know he's very protected.
We don't know. You know, I'm from Atlanta, Georgia means
I don't know Stevie J like period, you know, and
I don't but you know what though, I think he
t my phone one time. That's what it was. He
was like, yo, get at me to Steve. I I thought,
I wonder what was he calling me about? You know

(59:24):
what I mean? I was like, I wouldn't do that.
You know, he didn't hit him back. We were gonna
talk about I'm definitely not dating this girl, you know,
and I wouldn't. I don't got any to talk about.
Did you text him and say what's up? Yeah? I
told him to hit me, but you know, anybody texts
my phone tell me to hit me, I'm like, who
is this? You know what I'm saying, I'll respond. You know,
when people don't hit you back, I mean, you know, disrespectful, Yeah,

(59:46):
a little? Do you do you do you like? Do
you think the baby's yours? We'll see, you know what
I'm saying. I'm hopeful, but you know, okay, so you
hope you hope that's your baby. I mean, I'm just
hopeful that she have a healthy baby. Right. Does the
way you did with women moving forward, like has a
change because you blew Joscelin up. You made her hot
and then she went out, didn't like started popping the

(01:00:08):
poop poop for a little bit. I can't think of
the name me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you know, me
and Mimi have a different type of relationship, like she's
one of my best friends or whatever. You know, I'm
you know, definitely moving forward. It affects on my relationship
or hot deal with women. But you know, I'm still
be the good guy regardless. Then I'll come on, ste

(01:00:28):
if you really think you were the good guy in
all these cases, you don't. You don't take responsibility for
any of the things that you did. And man, tell
you why you're a good guy because he was always honest.
I was honest. And then look at that, look at
the money they made every year. But everything's not about money.
If somebody thinks I'm just gonna be with you, I
love you, and then who thought that? You know, at

(01:00:49):
any point, you don't think MEMI really wanted to be
with you. That is your you know, one of your
best friends, like she did. She always goes back to
you know, it seems like it, but you never know,
you know, I'm just I'm just happy that I did
great for both of them. You don't think you're hired
to date. I'm not easy, but you know I'm a
good guy though, when I'm when I'm hired, when I'm president,
I'm near you may me, Me and Johnson knock each

(01:01:11):
other off like that's what before the show started, you
know what I'm saying. So that was real. You know
a lot of this stuff is contrived, but not the
steviej story. Now, you couldn't make the whole polygamy thing
work with everybody one big sand much because you know,
one day one of them is more happy than the
other one, one of them getting more beefcaked than the
other one. So it doesn't work that way in the
perfect world. WO be great, but that had never happened.

(01:01:33):
Now what line do you use to get all these
girls just start popping off with each other? I mean,
I don't use the line. Probably just pick up the
guitar and scene to him, and you know they like
show them to pack to something. What about Rick Roles?
Because Rick Ross was rumor that Rick Ross was dating
Jocelyn too. I don't think it was true, but you
know what I'm saying. Who you know, they've grown. Let
them do what they do. You know what I'm saying.

(01:01:54):
You think you could be in a monogamous relationship. Oh no, yeah, yeah,
But right now, I just want to just love money
and love my work, and I'm happy by my new show.
I'm just happy than I'm working and able to provide
for my family, my kids, my dad and my mom,
my sisters and brothers. Because that show was supposed to
be you and Jocelyn. Originally, absolutely not, Okay, the first
show was you know, the name of the show is

(01:02:15):
the Stevie J. Project. So the first show I chose
the name Stevie and Jocelyn, you know, so it could
have just been Stevie J. I'm saying, But originally that
was the plan, Stevie and Jocelyn. Originally the plan was
Stevie J. You know what I'm saying. I was nice enough,
you know what I'm saying that girl at the time
of the time, you know what I'm saying. Once things
got a little disrespectful. It was like, you know, once again,

(01:02:36):
business is business, and she was calling you gay. She
said she with molestation accusations or something, which which I
feel like you can't just throw that accusation out here.
You can't come back from certain things, and that's one
of the things you can't come back from you know,
and and you know the people from Defects was all
at Mimi's house and all at my heart, yeah, you know,

(01:02:57):
saying they closed the case on step all the fifth
actually investigator of the jobs. And yeah, just because she
said that. Wow, but you still did just recently try
to go and make amends with her with your baby
on the way. Even still, you know what I'm saying,
I made amends. You know what I'm saying that I
got a lot of flak from you know what I'm
saying my family, like you, how could you even want

(01:03:17):
to deal with this check out that she said that
about your daughter's just like even your own children, Like
what are you doing right? So at the end of
the day, it's just like I did that in the
same day, she want to fight me. Next day she
come on set, want to fight me. So it's like,
let me just leave that away. So she did attack
you where you physically like had injuries and everything. She
admitted that the baby before the baby, right before the
um the Sunday and Monday, fought me. You know what

(01:03:39):
I'm saying, like, come on, I know you were scared
because you could have lost the baby. I mean it's
more or less like, why would her brother even put
in a situation to want to fight nine months pregnant?
You know what I'm saying. That's that's what kind of
guy as a brother like it? I mean, you know,
obviously he's not that bright of a guy. You know
what I'm saying, Um, you got to have no love
for your family to want to lose the baby or
nine months you know, and she's high risking them are

(01:04:00):
even just to tell on another guy? Guy cold? But
lie to your brother though, you know what I'm saying,
Like you're gonna lie to your sister, right, No, not lie,
But I'm saying I'm not gonna say he broke guy
code from there. Yeah, he definitely broke just you don't.
You can't. You can't telling another man. But if it's
your sister, I would approached Stevie for like Stevie, who's that?
But then like this, but I'm not dating your sister

(01:04:23):
that too, you're not together. We're not together. So he
just goss been basically gossip. We got more with STEVJ
when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club morning. Everybody
is DJ m vy angela Ye, Charlemagne, the God, we
are the breakfast Club. We have Stevie J from Love
and Hip Hop Atlanta in the building. Nwe yes, Steven.
So we've been hearing about you and Faith Evans. You

(01:04:44):
guys have been pictured together on the bad Boy tour.
So are you guys really dating? You know what I'm saying.
I know the for almost twenty five years, and you know,
did you like her back in the day, Like back
in the day when she was with Big it wasn't
just like our family. And then you know, as she
has progressed, we're just forgingna hang out more talk more.
So is this new and new to us? It's new brand?

(01:05:07):
So do you see a real future like this could
be the person I settled down with. I mean, I
just feel that I shouldn't have crossed that line because
once you crossed that line, emotions really overwhelmed you know
what I'm saying, overwhelmed me and herd. So what do
you mean cross the line like half sex? Yeah, she
started dating your best friends? Look different. Wow, you played

(01:05:28):
a guitar for her and yeah she sang for me
all the time. You're dating Biggie's wife, you know, Biggie's
ex wife. Stop widow. Widow, do you ever wear condom? cVj? Yeah?
Like what was I left my wife? How do you
decide whether or not you want to wear condoms or not?

(01:05:50):
It's just like, you know, if I don't know the person,
I'm just gonna wrap up. So okay, if I don't know,
you shouldn't even be bad with somebody you don't know.
I'm good because I want why like your family at
greats A good point? Why would you want to have
kids with Jocelyn her Nanda? And we've seen videos of
her wild in the studio, looking like she all on drugs,
so yeah, we don't know if she's mentally ill, Like,

(01:06:10):
why would you want to breed with Jocelyn Hernand? Well,
it just happened, you know. It wasn't doesn't seem so dark.
It wasn't playing though. It just happened, you know, And
obviously she knew it was going on. You know what
I'm saying before I did. But it is what it is.
We just got to approach it the way we got.
Especially if you think that she there sleeping with a
bunch of different dude that would have made me if

(01:06:30):
I did hit put a condom on it. But you
know that was probably at the time where we wasn't
even just a good nights. Yeah, you never had an
STD or nothing. No, I ain't got the like I say, now,
did you ever have met little clamydia? Little syphilis? A crab?
Did had the crabs? I was on the plane and

(01:06:53):
I'm like, what year? This was? All right? That made sense?
Let somebody hold some of my stuff and they wore
and your draws? Do you let somebody draws? What are
you talking about close with a hitman? We didn't. What

(01:07:14):
are you talking about? My joint on the plane? And
it was crazy? So you never had three things with
Tommy and Jocelyn right, No, So they was just it
was just something they was doing on their own. See
what happened when you do something by yourself, don't work out? Right?

(01:07:35):
So how did Timmy end up on the show? Was
it because it was because of your nephew and yeah,
my nephew Scrap and Sash, So you basically bought everyone
on there. Well, you know, I just played a part
of making everybody, you know, get paid. What about production?
You're back to producing working? Yes, absolutely, I'm working on
His Faith the King and the album were almost finished Um,
I'm executive producing with her, you know what I'm saying,

(01:07:57):
and working on some new artists for Epic. Can this
boy working on my project? I'm just working, man. Kelly
Price has just finished her project, so I'm just back
to doing what I love doing. I wondered about that too,
because he was on you came up on some some
of the Bad Boy dates. Yeah. I don't know if
he's on all of them, but I saw you on
a few of them. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Me and Puff's just cooling, just talking, and he wanted
me to showcase that musical talent instead of being in

(01:08:17):
front of television. He felt like people needed to see
me with a guitar in my hand. I don't want
How did they treat you like today? Man? It was
all love? Okay, all love. So you feel like, let's
talk about your show? Who else is on it? Because
we know the trailer hit Jock on it, we gotta
Scrappy on it, we got Faith on it, we got
Timmy on it, we got my children on it. You

(01:08:38):
know what I'm saying. It's just man, this sounds more
like a peaceful Yeah, it's a peaceful family show us
like a family Matters type show. You know what I'm saying,
it's it's more or less away from the ratchet stuff
and just into a happy space with your Matt right now,
because it wasn't so happy last year. I told Johnson
had the baby and then you got to do the
DNA test. I mean then I'm still gonna be happy
because I'm just gonna gonna tomorrow. Yeah. But you know,

(01:08:59):
I'm playing a lot of instruments on the show, more music,
I'm saying, singing and stuff. It's cool doing country Western shows. Funny,
you know what I'm saying. Now, you told Tims that
if the baby is yours, you're gonna seek full custody. Why.
I mean, my thing is like this. You know, if
you're not in your right mind to be fighting at
nine months when you're pregnant and all that, I need
to cycle evaluates, you know what I'm saying. I need

(01:09:20):
to know what's up with you when that baby is born.
I want to test the baby. I want to test you.
I want to you know what I'm saying. If everything
was on the up with us and then she wasn't
trying to fight me in you know, I come to
her in piece and she want to fight and vold
the crazy When a woman's pregnant, you can't. But now
but still we don't. You gotta think about the baby. Yeah,
she just you know, saying, just punching me in my
face and my crab and I'm grabbing telling her brother, yo,

(01:09:42):
just get her. I'm my crab. And he's standing there
like you know what I'm saying. I just want to
make sure that the baby is good. Babe. Having a
baby will change her though, because that does happen for
a lot of people. Well, you know, you you're having
strippers at the at the baby shower and all that,
and then you got the cake and you asking dudes, yo,
you want to eat the d on the cake? How
about you eat to you know the cake? Come on.
This is interesting though, because when a person shows you

(01:10:03):
who they all believed. And we've been seeing this Joscelyn
for years. You know, I thought that it was going
to change due to the baby and all that, but
you know, it is what it is. You think it's
an age or two. I didn't realize she was just thirty.
I mean, y'all, you like fifteen years older than I'm thirteen.
Years older than now. But you know, at the end
of the day, thirty is still thirty, you know what
I'm saying, not eighteen, you know. And then I showed

(01:10:25):
you a great life. Why would you want to disrespect
the guy that that that made your life a full circle?
You know what I'm saying, looked at you as a woman,
that treated you as a woman, not just you know
somebody that's the problem. Man, When you a girl and
teach or something what you clearly did, and then she
turned around and disrespects you. It's crazy to me, you
know what I'm saying. So I'll be kissing my feet,

(01:10:50):
keeping feet and toes how many times? How many times
you think you told her in your life, I made you?
Have you ever? I never said that to her, oka
saying it's more or less like you know what I'm saying.
And then she emailed me, I appreciate everything you've done
for me and my career and now this baby. And
then the same breath, you out there having so um

(01:11:11):
papers and buildings saying I'm a molester in all this,
but you email. I actually thought like, that's probably the
worst thing you could say about somebody, you know. But
I'm glad to have friends like Dda Edo was to
just keep me calming and allow me to use my
brain raving in emotions. You know what I'm saying, dealing
with s how do her emails a little? Because I

(01:11:31):
mean it looked like somebody wrote them up for you
know what I'm saying. That's too good to do. This
is something I'm saying. But you know, at the end
of the day, I'm not gonna beleed those emails. When
you know what I'm saying. You got somebody running around
with a monkey mask on in Atlanta throwing these documents
in the office buildings. What kind of stuff is that?
They said that she destroyed sixty five thousands worth of

(01:11:53):
your stuff? What did she destroy? Um? She cut up
my minx, my bad boy jackets on my shoes. She's
just destroyed a lot of clothes beside she dishes. She
just you know, destructive. You ain't gonna have a back
in the crib no more na. Yeah, I mean, I'd
rather just keep it a distance. I don't need to
know where she lives. She don't need to know my
new crib back. I have somebody to pick up the baby,

(01:12:15):
and and that s all right, we got more with TEVJ.
When we come back, we'll update you on this relationship
with Mimi and one of the last time you spoke
to Eve. We'll find out when we come back. It's
the Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the breakfast club you need
for morning. Everybody's DJ, Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the God.
We are the Breakfast Club. We have Stevie J from

(01:12:37):
Love and Hip Hop Atlanta in the building. Now, when
Mimi was being fake gay for TV's she has a girlfriend.
Now No, al right, Okay, I know a lot of

(01:12:58):
people in Atlanta and they all say even when it're
for Sady, you know she likes man. She was with
Jocelyn before the show. Yeah, but A pioneered that. Okay,
you started that. Okay, Steve, do you make all your
girls go by I mean, not faith Na. She's a
real woman. She's beautiful. She older though you. But you
know some old joints then you know, never tasted exactly,

(01:13:19):
but I do. It's just their choice. But at the
end of the day, I just like I used to
like to have a lot of fun, but now you
don't calm down. Yes, now you're getting older. Two women
take a lot to do two women, just what I
went through with the old Johnslyn things. It's like, yo,
come on, scared straight? No, yeah, you really thought she
should have been a star a musician. I mean it's
not even that she. My thing wasn't as a musicians,

(01:13:40):
like loving hip hop. So I need to create this artists,
you know what I'm saying, Give her something to do
on the good. But then you know she she had
to look and then she had the attitude. So it's
like I'm like, boom, I'm gonna give you something that
she ain't gonna go take your clothes off. I'm trying
to do this music thing with you, you know what
I'm saying, and not just allowed her to believe that
she was Selena. You know what I'm come on, now,

(01:14:01):
do you still have a stake in her as far
as management? Yeah? And I haven't been paid in years.
And you know what I'm saying. I wants my friend.
Are you waiting for her love and hip hop checks? Too?
I wants my bread. Oh, you're waiting for the baby
to be boys? So when she comes for that, you'd
be like, I'll come in for this business. Why haven't
it bade you, Um, it's up to her to cut

(01:14:23):
her to check. She's supposed to come to me my
thirty percent. Thirty percent. Wow, that's that's mild because now
doing fifty fifty deals, what's what is these? What are
these deals? These artists doing firty sixty deals for reality shows,
for music and everything. I mean, television is a little different.
But you're not a label I am. I'm a full
on entertainment confer I'm saying, I guess I gotta sign

(01:14:48):
the Vibe com Three weeks after she signed a contract
a six year deal. Who does that? You know what
I'm saying? You're not even who are you know what
I'm saying? How long is your deal for? No? I
just accumulated a few years, you know, somebody terming to
Sherman Hemsley on TV and all that, that's a great deal.
So so she got different shows coming out like she

(01:15:08):
might have her own. She got the own thing especial
about the baby and all that that. I'm not a
part of that, but she's got that. I helped pioneer
that too. Right, what if she's do you know I
want my thirty you have to sue somebody else? See, well,
you know that's already done. What if she's like, okay,
we can be peaceful. I won't come at you for this.
Just let me get out of my contract. I needs

(01:15:30):
my bread. That bread's gonna outweigh anything I got to give.
What does your daughter say now that you have custody
and she's you know, seventeen eighteen, it's just like, yo,
don't have her over here, you know what I'm saying,
and just keep her over there after kids yours and
we're just do what we do with the baby. But
you know she doesn't really feel it. But because of
all the stuff that she was saying about a little sister, right,
what I'm saying, none of the kids feel her now.

(01:15:52):
One of your older sons, Dorian, was on Instagram freestyle
and saying you and ask the tea father. I mean,
I don't see that, you know what I'm And maybe
he was in his emotions at the time. You know
what I'm saying. I just saw him at Eva's birthday party,
hugged me, said he's sorry, he loved me, and you
know he came we ate dinner. But you know I wouldn't.
I would never steal from my father, you know what
I'm saying it was an instance where he stole a

(01:16:14):
lot of equipment from me and I had to just
as myself. You know what I'm saying. How old was he? Um?
Twenty one? Oh? Was he a grown man? Not even
a kid? No more. You can't even forgive him like
you do forgive a job, right, you know, I just
forgive him, but you're not in the trust fund no more.
So you really don't rock with him, so it's not
like you would have rock with him. But you gotta

(01:16:34):
come to the table right now. Yeah, let's just take
that away because I don't owe you anything. I did
what I did. Now, you're twenty two and you got
a kid. I take care of you and your kid.
Now you have to show me that you can get
a job. Once you get a job, then maybe we
could talk about the trust. Is that a convo you
had with him? Like you know, you're on Instagram talking
about him a father you stole from you know, wrock.
You didn't know what he did. You know what I'm saying,

(01:16:54):
Some certain things don't have to be said. But you
know what I'm saying, I still love him, but sometimes
you gotta show that tough love. I would never stand
for my father CBJ don't had a rough pass. Yeah,
but you know it only makes me stronger. I'm happening.
What's the last time you seeen? Eve? Oh man? He
was watching this like I really hope again again? No, no, no,

(01:17:16):
we cool? She followed me on social media. Now we're cool? Really? Yeah?
To be mad about you never said nothing about it,
and you know what I'm saying, And you guys really
did dat. It wasn't a secret and it was a
great relationship. And I helped her get the Grammy and
it was the best record you ever made when I
produced it with her. You know what I'm saying, Snow,
he says, the best records you ever made? You know

(01:17:37):
the Scorpion joined with the Stefani join want to Grammy
for that? Let me blow your mind. I wrote that.
I didn't know that. Oh you're good the whole so
many credits, it's like, so, so who's that guy? Young Flow?
What's his name? Girl? I'm like, who his accolades next
to mine? Put his you know anything he ever done
accomplishments next to mind? Then you know what I'm saying.

(01:17:59):
But y'all, I don't have no issues with each other
aside from just because of this job, you know, just
to say slick stuff. I'm in the gym, so you know,
you know the walls closed in, They're gonna have to
be next to me, you know what I'm saying. I've
seen Stevie J fight before, man, Charlotte, North Carolina. Was
that then? Remember that it was a weekend. That wasn't
a fight like I jumped. Yeah, that wasn't no fight.

(01:18:20):
You know what I no, I saw you helping somebody.
I was mistaken. Now you was mistaken. I'm watching a
whole go down. Now my crew have fought and yeah, yeah,
my crew have fought somebody, but I don't. I don't
get involved in fights unlessons in one on one and
I gotta you know, wrinkle somebody school close up. You
think you and jo can get over that though, I mean,

(01:18:41):
you know, I ain't got nothing to say a woman
that you know already know what she's staying. And he's
saying that he never messed with her. Yeah, and he's
saying he never messed with her and they just did
some music together. He's on other station, you know what
I'm saying. He's an other station saying this and that.
But you know, this is what it is. I'm just
about this paper man, you know what I'm saying. Okay,
and new improved Stevie Ja not really but okay, all right,

(01:19:06):
ain't about the creep life anymore. I'm done with all that.
I'm just want to make sure I'm providing for my
next three generations. Man. I got my daughter living with
me now, so it's different. All right. Well, there you
have it. That's tough. It's Stevie Seat, it's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning,

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