Best of 2025- Kings of Comedy - Kevin Hart, Andrew Schultz, Donnell Rawlings Interviews. Recorded 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Morning, everybody, It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club, law La Rosa, it's here,
and we got a special guest.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
In the building. He Ky Walker.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Hello, everybody, Andrews Shows, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
How's it going.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
How you feeling?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I feel good, man, you know it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I was talking to Charlemagne about you yesterday. I was like,
we've been doing the Breakfast Club so long. We got
a real opportunity to see different people grow.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
And and you were one of them.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I was like, I remember andrew Shows starting off, and
in the fact I seen a couple of months ago
that you were.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
You sold out the Garden a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And had your dad with you, so light work.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I was like, so, how does that feel that girlfriend?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
We actually seen the grind, so people can't just say
it was overnight because it's white.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
No, we actually seen the grind.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
It was it was it was a while. I remember
the first time I came to the Breakfast Club. I
think Charlomagne walked out there five minutes.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I was so excited.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I was like, hey, man, come on show you. He
was like, yah, I got you, bro. He comes and
he starts to show you. I got my man. Shoulds here?
All right, I'll take it away, and then he just left.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
But it was still a great interview with this one.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
I'm gonna sit here and I'm gonna talk, but I'm like,
I'm more interested to hear what Lauren.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And that was my guy.
Speaker 7 (01:15):
I was telling my friend.
Speaker 8 (01:16):
I was like, it was like, what that's Charlot make homie,
I said, I promise you he's gonna be like.
Speaker 7 (01:19):
I'm not going to talk. I want to hear what
y'all have to Because.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I talked, I know what he thinks about things, but
I want.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
To talk every week.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yes, I'm more interested to he with with.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You'll think he's gonna chime.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
And you'll see once he gets a little spicy, he
gets a little spicy, he'll.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Be in there.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
So I want.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I want to tell man, you had all of us
thinking that that poor girl's family died.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, Port Williams. I was terrifying.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
He's looking at this note and then I see her
looking at the note and then I'm like, Damn, somebody
died and the only thing I'm thinking is is she
gonna stop the interview? You know what I mean, like, yeah,
there's this moment where you're like, does she care so
much about fame?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
She's like, well, they are already dead. They ain't gonna
be bored.
Speaker 8 (02:02):
She started to get teary eye, and the way she
looked at her sister, I thought somebody died too, And
I'm like, ship, all I was.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
Thinking is weird getting exclusive.
Speaker 8 (02:11):
Works a major exclusive right here that I'm like, let
me see.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
What it said because I need to anchor in his headline.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But see that's the TMV brain from Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
And I'm so bad and I love sorry for not
gonna everybody's.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Good, I said, I know Charlamage, even though he's an asshole.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
If that would happen, he would have stopped the interview and
be like, hey, I need you to go outside. I
know him for that that. I knew it would have
been some type of joke. I just don't know how
far he was gonna go.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
You know, It's funny when Schutz walked in, Shultz looked
at that couch and he was like, Yo, that's the
whole couch, big.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
D I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
The couches the I mean, I remember we were on
Brilliant Idiots when we first saw that and uh yo,
oh my god, and said, uh so, why is she
called the lift?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
She should you know she why didn't she call a
she called a forklift? And uh and then she came on.
It was really funny, like I was.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Watching the episode and she's quite endearing. She's just like
really really endearing voice.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But when you guys moved.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
The couch up and I walked in, I was like, oh,
that's the famous couch and I didn't know that there
are three pieces.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
One part semi circle out, so you know, we pulled
the whole thing up. Yeah, she filled that thing out.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
There's no way she's making into Hanna Civic, Like there's
no way she said.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
She could get into PC cruiser.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, maybe God bless her.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I wanted to know.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
You know, with this day and age with comedy, right,
we've recently seen Damion Wade say he's not going back
on the road because they will cancel you for everything.
But you are somebody that don't give a f what
you say, what people think, and why is that?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah? I don't know, that's a good. That's a good Uh.
I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I don't really care, but I think that the days
of canceling or done like I think I think it's changed,
which I think they kind of like pendulum is swung,
and I think people kind of have a sense of
humor now or they feel like less effective and there's
their ability to cancel.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
I think you don't care because you threw what could
have been a hail Mary, or it could have been
a well coordinated play. It turned out to be a
well quarter because when Hollywood there was a period and
I remember this vividly.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
One time Andrew comes in the studio.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
And Andrew was saying how his agent told him that
Hollywood does not want white straight.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
They tried to gave me white straight male.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
So they me, they gave you, They gave me every
day with me to try dating.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
They gave me and they made my character gay film. Yeah,
it was great. Say what ahead what do you mean?
Speaker 8 (04:47):
Because you know it's always been that thing of like
that happens to black men and that's.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
How you like, that's just like that's just like the
lowest hanging through.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I don't think the dress ship is about being gay.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I just think that, like it's it's white people writing
scripts that like don't have any friends that aren't white.
So then when they see black people, they see masculinity, right,
like this is there, like like what is it? Unconscious
like bias? Right, So they see black dudes like, oh,
that's the most masculine thing. So like, what's the funniest
thing to see the most mascul masculin thing in a dress?
Like to see the rock and address is funny, you know?
(05:21):
So I think that's really it's like Arnold Schwarzenegger. I
think they did it to him.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Too, because you just see this big, buff guy in
a dress. But yeah, they I remember the guy who.
I remember the guy who it was his show. He
put me in the show Paul Riser. Remember Paul Riser?
He I mean he was making a million dollars an
episode on his show on sitcom back in the day.
You remember the fuck I'm talking about. He was like
one of the biggest sitcoms starts.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
He's a great guy, and we were doing the show
I think that ended up on Hulu and he called me.
He's like, listen, man, you know there's a lot of
white people on the show that took place in the seventies.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
It was about the Johnny Carson Show.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
He's like two weeks before you start feeling. He's like,
hey man, we gotta make a character gay. And I
was like, what do you what do you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
How this is before this? Before Yeah? So I was
he was like how. I was like, how gay? And
he's uh he'.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I was like, why do we have to make it gay.
He's like, it's just a lot of white people on
the shows. We got to find a way to mix
it up. They made one guy crippled.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That was the most hilarious. I don't know, but it.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Was like they couldn't make us all gay, So like
one guy gotta be crippled.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And I was like, why don't you ask.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
I better be limping around this ship than butt, you know,
so and.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
So guy.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
So so yeah, so they made it was crazy, like
I had to change one of the scripts.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
It was to one of the guys.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
It got too gay. They want.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
They want me to get gang bangs like they they had.
So they had like this one script. I got it
on the day.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
They're like, yeah, it'd be really funny if you were
like walking into this room there's three guys behind you,
And I was like, man, let me tell you what's not.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Y'all taking this DYA ship too far?
Speaker 7 (07:14):
I want you to get the train.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It was and it was like in the seventies or
like it was like aids, you know what.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
There was no protection for that ship and now we
got three different guys fallowed.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Me into a bedroom.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So that was in the script.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
But I was in the script and I was like,
I ain't doing that ship.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I was like, so what did you do?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
There's a scene where apparently like my hands are on
the wall, and.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Then like Johnny, yeah, but nothing. I don't do anything.
But the audience is gay for thinking about it, y'all.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I don't my hands on the wall.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
But all I was simply saying was there was a
point where Andrew was like, look, I'm gonna go out
on my own terms.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
So if everybody's going this way, I'm gonna make the
kind of comedy I wanted me and if it works,
it works.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
If it doesn't, it doesn't. But it ended up working.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I did.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
My thing was like I saw a lot of people
kind of watering down their shit for what the TV
networks were putting on and I got empathy for the
people that work at the networks too, Like you got
a kid who's in private school, you want to build
a pool at your house or whatever. You're not trying
to lose your job because I want to make some
crazy joke. So but it felt water down, and I
didn't want to change the comedy. So I was like,
where can I put out the comedy? And honestly, like
(08:27):
having the pod with Charlott Mane and we're putting out
like brilliant idiot stuff and we're saying crazy jokes and
like people really seem to like it, and I was like,
I think there's an appetite for this shit online.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I saw your.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Guys' success, Like just seeing your Guys show kill It
on YouTube, it just kind of reminded me like people
are consuming stuff on YouTube, They're consuming high quality content,
long form. You know what if we just started putting
a stand upbout there, and I think knowing that there
was this place for it made me feel way more confident.
I didn't really care if it was like on a network.
I just wanted to do the comedy. I want to
(08:58):
do it.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And then it worked.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Man, that was risky because you was giving away your
bread and butter though, because you're giving up parts of
your stand up special.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
But at the same time, it's like I was writing
so much, you know, back then, because I had to
go back to the same markets every single year. I
had to go back to all many every single year.
So I didn't want to do the same jokes from
last year, you know, like people like that's something like
early on, I was like, I'm not gonna waste people's money,
you know, every tour. I was like, people work hard,
they got to get a babysitter, like they got it's
(09:27):
a whole night, it's dinner.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's expensive to come out to a show.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
So I was like, this got to be the best
show that they see. At least we had an attempt to
make it. So I would have a new set, and
then what was I doing for the old set? And
I put that ship out there, and like the jokes
would start to go over and I was saying, some
wild ship and.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
You pissed a lot of people off, and you ever
got threatened?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, I think Diddy, but you you would had a
lot of people were thinking about when he said that,
when you hear that name, what comes out?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Like, what do you think the baby behind behind you?
I love how much you guys to embraced white boyfriend.
It makes me so happy, Like that's why you guys
are you guys are the black pioneers A white boyfriend
like I feel and you know what you know? And
the way he goes too far like you know, white
boyfriend is no, I'm please, just like the straight guys
(10:16):
making gay jokes with each other.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
Oh okay, that my old job. Yeah that is very
white exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, so we just call that gay.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Well, we call white boyfriend because it's not gay. It's
two straight guys doing it. Okay, yeah, but once there's
a gay guy involved, then it becomes gay. No.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
So the white boyfriend I experienced at my last job,
there would be a gay guy involved and it still
was just oh, this is a great this is funn Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, but that's what they said in the office. But
when they left, they were like, yo, they're gay for
doing that.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Ship.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I'm just telling you that's it.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
It was my first time seeing it. I was like wow,
and you didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Know what to think, right, Yeah, yeah, so this.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Is like classic you know when white dues hang out
that it's all gay jokes.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Okay and Mexican shout of Mexican. Mexican got good gay.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Oh few definitely got a good Remember on training day
with a dude was like, you've had your ship pushed in?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Oh yeah, that seemed like rape. I don't know if
he was.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Joking about that is like a I didn't understand why
we wanted that.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Why wouldn't you want him to go go get an animal, bro?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah you want to clean that out, you know what
I mean? So okay, So Mexican gay jokes.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
No, they never want to eat the corn the long way.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
That usually you know on the side.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But if you haven't seen a dude the long way,
that's crazy.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Finished my shot.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
But I was asking have you got threatened to a
point where he was like I got a chill out
because you anybody anyhow I got I got punched on stage.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I used to get thrown at me.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Fight uh not I mean box?
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah, I used to box like I wasn't like but
I'm not like something like trying to fight everybody.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
Tough guy at all, but box and pilates.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Yeah, there you go that's yeah, yeah, if we're organized
and we're in a ring, I'll probably fuck you up
from the street and ship.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I'm like, I don't really want.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
To go do all that, but but yeah, yeah, I
used to go through through that kind of stuff all
the time, but I just wasn't really funny enough back then.
That's the way, you know, like you have the ideas,
you just don't got the skills.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
To execute it.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
It's not silly enough yet.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
And then eventually I think you could develop the skills
and then you could say even wilder jokes but in
a way where people find it kind of funny and sow,
that's something I.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Never heard you say. I've never heard you say you
didn't feel like he was funny enough back then, as.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
I look back, As I look back, like you know,
like there was I was. I had funny jokes, but
I also just didn't have the skills to execute some
other ones. So it would just be I just say
some wild shit and I'm like, yeah, this is funny,
and then you know, sometimes the jokes are work, and
then sometimes they just really wouldn't work. But I feel
like now I'm getting close to a point where even
if somebody hates the topic I'm talking about, I can
(12:44):
make it funny enough where they could they could laugh
at it.
Speaker 8 (12:47):
You talked about the censorship era being good for comedy
because it set like certain boundaries.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Like what not to do.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, it got to be naughty.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
Yeah, But so having those boundaries and then you you
look back at your old tape, you weren't as funny,
so you had to develop so you have like there's
a whole system behind you of like like you sit
and watch your highlight tapes and you use all of
that to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I also think censorship like in a weird way.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I don't believe in censorship, but the fact that it
exists makes you have to be sharper, you know, like
if you could we're in the air, if you could
say anything right now, and comedy will probably get a
little bit more like an absurdist and a reverend because
you could say anything.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So there's nothing that's like too edgy. Does that make sense?
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah, So now comedy usually gets like a little like
weird and out there, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Remember that, remember Zach Alafanakus remember him? Yeah first, yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Zach's great.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
That type type of comedy where it's not like here's
a political take, but it's more like he's.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
A character and it's a little weird.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
That type type of comedy gets popular when you could
say anything, and then when you know, censorship comes back.
Usually the guys like a Chris Rock, you know, I mean,
just these like historic figures.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
But that's why I think well crafted just that's why
the Life Specialist actually special, because well crafted jokes have
to make a comeback now because we live in the
world where everybody just says, in your watch it, but
what's the what's the joke?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
How are you packaging?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Agree?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Yes, yeah, And people will give you that liberty like
if if it's good, if the joke is good, they'll
let you rock with it, even if they don't like
the topic or even the opinion. They you know, they're
they're like, okay, I know what you're trying to say. Also,
the Life one is just like so it's so personal
and it's so vulnerable. I think I get a little
leeway with.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
The other ship.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
I had to watch. I had to watch it twice.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
No, I don't like celebrate it, but okay, so the
first time I watched it, maybe because it was so personal,
like I was like, Okay, where's the fun Like I
wasn't laughing at everything. Yeah, but it was because I
was trying to follow the story and I'm like, wait,
like low key you like that was that had to
be tough for you. And then I went back again
and I watched it and it was funny and I
was like okay, but I'm like, I don't know why
I had I've never had to do that.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well. Listen, the fact that you watch it twice, I
mean that to me is great. And you know, whatever
you get out of it, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Did you feel a little bit retarded that you didn't
get it the first time?
Speaker 7 (15:06):
It wasn't that I didn't get it.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
I think when I because that was my first time
ever seeing you do stand up, and I've heard so
much about you, I think I instantly just thought I
was going to be like, oh my god, but I
was like, no, wait, he y'all couldn't have a baby,
and there's all this stuff that was there. I think
my empathy for you came in and I didn't find
it funny. And then the second time the empathy was
removed and I'm like, oh, he's funny. But yeah, I
(15:31):
didn't get it though, But I've never I brought that
up because I'm wondering, like, is there is that on purpose?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Well, there's a there's an interesting thing that like, so
the beginning of the special, I say we had the
baby specifically for that reason is that I felt like
the audience would be too concerned to destroy. So if
you paid attention to the beginning, you might have felt better.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
Well, I did hear that in the beginning, and I
watched you a brilliant idiot, so I thought you had
the baby, but I think it just felt so heavy
because you don't necessarily hear men. And you talked about
this in the special, talking about, okay, we couldn't have
the baby because.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
It was my fault, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
Like, and I'm like, he's laughing and joking, but like,
as a man, I can't that.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Probably it probably still strokes your ego a little bit
when you talk.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
About honestly know, like it's it's weird.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
At first, I dealt with it, right, like, so my sperm,
my sperm doesn't swim.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
That's like the issue that I talk And.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
There I heard the joke that tailor dropped to.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
What Taylor killed me?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
She said yeah, because we I beat her in a race.
And then I was saying something to her. She was like, yeah,
I run fast in your sperm.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Was bad and nobody knew it. We knew at the
time when he was the people.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Yes, I remember.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
So it was like that tough room over there.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Oh no, it was brutal, but the joke was fantastic,
like you got to keep it in so uh yeah.
So it's like when when I thought it was my
wife's fault, which is what every guy thinks that's going
through fertility ship is I felt uncomfortable talking about on
stage because that's like her very deep personal business and
a lot of women feel incredibly insecure right about that, Right,
(17:02):
it makes him fee less of a woman, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Right.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Once I found out it was my fault, I remember
the doctor said. I was like, what's the deal. The
doctor was like, uh, your sperm swims like uh Drew
Ski and a riptide.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
They said you were a C C.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Plus, which I feel like he just said the plus
so I could feel better about myself, which was nice
of him.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But immediately after that I start going what the fuck
is wrong with me? Like why you know, like does
God not want me to have kids? Like it's like
you have like this really weird like weak.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
And then once we decide to go through the I
actually want to like beat the system. I was like, no,
I think I could do it anyway. Like I got
like really competitive. And then every time that we would
try my and it didn't work, my wife would like
cry and I felt like it was really selfish if
we just didn't go through this other process. Second we
went with the other process, I felt really comfortable talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
It on stage.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Like actually, once I found out it was me felt
comfortable talking about the stage because it wasn't like my wife's.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Issue and I'm like exposing her like deep dark secret.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
And when I started talking about on the stage, man,
the amount of people that would like come up to
me and send me these dms, like these beautiful things
about like what they're going through and I actually IVF
and like eventually having kids and like you really get
to see how I think we talk so much about
how people are trying to avoid kids or they're upset
that they got a girl pregnant, and there's like all
this like negativity around kids. When you talk to IVF couples,
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you are or are talking to the people that face
the reality they might never bring life into this world.
And then, by the grace of God, we're able to
see this thing that they've cherished and maybe we're trying
to make for years.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
So you have the most gratitude for your child?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yes, Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
It's like you see the way that people react and
how emotional they get about their children, and it's like,
you get this, just this beautiful. And then the people
who had kids and it was kind of easy for them,
they'll send me these messages about like the gratitude they
have for their kids, and they didn't realize it, you know,
they it was kind of lucky for them.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
So yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
It was really it was a really cool thing that
I did not expect. I thought I was going to
be the only one going through this shit.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
It's a tight knit community, like most people don't necessarily realize.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I got six kids, so the first four big them out.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
God, we were trying to have the fifth one and
we couldn't get pregnant, so.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
We tried IVF.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Oh really, we tried IVF for it because insurance didn't
cover it, but as expensive as a well the effort
to the point when when we had the powerhouse concerts
up pair, I would have to give my wife the
shot because you have to give her a shot at
a certainty.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You gotta make it. It's like a cocktail. Yes, I
had to make it at home. They're giving you syringes.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So in the middle of the concert, I'm in the
back doing the shot, this, that, and the other, and
it still didn't work.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
So we was like we took it as well. Maybe
God said four is enough, but at.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Least you had four. Imagine the one that to have zero,
but it just got one.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
It happened, happened bro naturally, which was the craziest thing ever.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Sometimes it's the stress, Like I know, it's the most
it's the dumbest thing you guys probably, I mean, you
know about this just because all the mental health stuff
you do. But like the way that your brain can
play tricks on your body that you got you put
so much pressure on, like having a kid and your
body reacts negatively like that. Like there's a lot of
people who try IVF it works, and then the next
kid they have naturally and it's just your body goes
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all right, this kid time, Like, now you're not so stressed.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You got one and that might be it.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
You guys went all right, you know, if we're supposed
to have four, that's what we're supposed to have.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Forget it, and then you stop trying and immediately bang.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Two more, two more.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
The women that don't have kids, imagine how they would
feel if they knew how many abortions certain women got.
Speaker 8 (20:34):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
When I was going through this, I was like, I
don't even understand who gets abortions?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah, like I was, it was so.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Hard for us to get pregnant. I didn't even know
that it was about like my sperm or her eggs.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I was like, who's getting abortion? Like, how is this possible?
Once I knew, Yeah, I saw it, But yeah, it's
a deeper.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I'm glad you spoke about it because so many people
dealing with it. Like we talked about in the book
that when you do it, so many people hit you.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
You'd be surprised and it's the last taboo thing and
people are so and secure about it because you don't
want your partner to be embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So like, if I'm telling you it was easier that
it was me.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
If it was my wife's ovaries, I don't think I'd
ever talk about it because it could.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Be humiliating for women.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
For dudes, yes, humilion for me, But like as a comedian,
I think I'm a little like I find the joy
in that humiliation.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, it's just it's easy for me to deal with.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
And but I'll tell you after talking about it and
seeing all the other people going.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Through it, it's like, yeah, that's why.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Honestly, when we had Trump on, there was like three
things that I want to ask him, and one of
them I wanted.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Him to say publicly that he would he would protect IVF.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
So let's talk about that. How did you meet Trump?
How did you get the like how are you to
get this?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
They reached out and they were like do you want
to have them on? And we're like, yeah, we want
to do in the studio, and then they were like,
we can't do it in the studio. Like you know,
Sean knows, it's like it's a you guarantee the assassination.
It's like windows everywhere.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
It's like I don't even know why we were trying,
Like you walk right out the elevator. It's windows everywhere.
It is bad. But uh.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Right, like you know, I hope that doesn't happen, but
you know so, but we were really pushing for that.
And then and then when we did the pod, Yeah,
I like spoke to his kid for a while before
and I spoke to Dana White, which one junior junior,
and I was like, yeah, just tell me some stories.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
And like I just kind of wanted to say again
the party.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
You talked about the party, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
So he told me about that one.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
He told me, Yeah, yeah, there's a part I didn't
say on the interview, but uh, because I said he
just went up to the roof and kicked everybody out.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
But like what Junior told me is he was in
his underwear.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
So like just imagine and imagine Trump Trump underwear Junior.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
For the people who haven't seen the interview, Schultz in
the group they talk about Donald Trump, Junior had like
a huge yeah. And then they had a third body
out because Trump found out about the party.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Well yeah, he wasn't supposed to be back.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
Yeah, he was supposed to be back. It was kind
of something on like a movie my dad comes home.
But he like never mentions it. So Trump Junior is
like almost like it didn't happen exactly. Know, he was
in his under so that party got real crazy.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah, that was the first time he addressed it in
like forty years or something like that.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
He never addressed it with his kid.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
You know, there's a guy in this room, a young
black male who said he watched Trump on flagrant. He goes, yo,
he goes that flaggerant interview is gonna get Trump elected.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
That guy that you're talking about, he's been magging for
a while.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
He was waiting for that moment.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
I felt the same way. That was the first time
I looked at him as like a person. I was like,
why am I like? I was like, oh my god,
he's a granddad. He cares about his kids. But it
was like y'all made him. He was having a good time.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
That and the commercial where another young black guy in
this room did a commercial that Trump he was and
played over.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I met that who made that commercial over and over again.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You know what he said, Yeah, he.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Was like, hey, thanks, Charlotte Mane really helped us out.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I mean that commercial was unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
It's really crazy that the election was decided in this
room right now.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
We don't get enough credit.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
But do you get that response from people don't like, Yo,
I'm humanized somebody that like we low key. Even when
he got shot, felt like people were like, oh, we
don't want that to happen.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
But so what I'd say to people, and I have
like a way more humble take than I think most like.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I don't think that we had any impact on the election.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
I don't think that any of the podcasts like I
think that America. I think what America had decided is
a lot of America weren't voting for Trump. They were
rejecting the current administration. They just didn't like what was happening.
And I think the way that the current administration was campaigning,
they're basically kind of saying, Hey, everything's good, We're gonna
kind of keep doing this. I think a lot of
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Americans were like, I don't really feel like it's good,
so I'm gonna go for anything but this. But I
think the idea of Trump is always he's a populist,
So if you vote for him, it means you love
him and you're obsessed with him and your maggot till
you die. Where I think a lot of it is
really just rejection in the same way that when people
voted for Biden, they didn't really.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Vote for Biden. They voted against the chaos of.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Trump and the chaos of the world at that time.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Yes, it was COVID, it was George Floyd, but also
we talk about this America had his mind made up
for two years that they were voting for Trump.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
We knew that.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Like, it's not like we knew that we were saying that,
we were saying Biden needed to step down because we.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Knew Biden wasn't gonna win November.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
It wasn't until the vice president, you know, became the
nominee that it was like, okay, well maybe maybe maybe
there is another option, but everybody knew it's not.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So what do you think about everything that Trump's doing now?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Well, what specifically, there's a whole lot.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I mean, there's so many orders.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Joe Rogan, I think it was Megan Kelly, but yeah,
I love the Yeah, the Gulf of America. I mean
it's North America, Central America, South America. Why we call
it the Gulf of Mexico. It should feel like the
Gulf of America. It's not the Gulf of North America.
It's just the Gulf of America. But again, what I
like is just like I like saying audacious shit. I'm
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an American, like Americans in general, like in our DNA,
where like we like risk takers and we like people
who are brave. And I think that's like the tricky
thing for Democrats right now. And keep in mind, I'm
like a lifelong Democrat. I grew up in an arts family.
Both my parents were dance teachers, like I live in
New York City my whole life. So what I need
is some energy on the Democratics side. We talk about
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this all the time, is I need some like shit talk.
I need some bodacious shit talk. And I think the
thing that really Americans care about right now is that
it's it's things are expensive, and I think Democrats need
their build the wall and whatever that is. It has
to happen too what people are struggling with right now.
So if they first have to build a team, well exactly,
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but yo, it could just be one outsider, like like
I think it's dollar eggs, Like eggs are a dollar.
I think you just start saying shit like that. It
doesn't matter if you don't know how to do it,
but you start saying something that's going to resonate with people,
and that's the only way.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
And I think that if they make it a class.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Issue, they win this election pretty easily come the next election.
But they're afraid to do that because a lot of them
are in the pockets of the billionaire class and the corporations.
So they make it about identity politics. They it's all
these people that go to like Harvard and Yale that
like pretend to give a fuck about you guys. They
don't actually give a fuck about you guys, but they
get patted on the back for pretending to do it.
And now they're in this situation where the rest of
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America's like I can't afford eggs, so I can't really
care about the bathroom. Like I don't give a fuck
about who goes in the bathroom because I needed buy eggs.
Until I can buy eggs, I don't worry about the bathroom.
So you got to start addressing people where their problems are.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
And you know what's proven that point when you look
at like Gavin Newsom on his podcast with Charlie kirk right.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
He wants to so bad bro the motherfuckers, which exactly,
but you see how quick he is to distance himself
from trans athletes and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So now it's like, oh, so you never cared.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, they never cared.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
You never gave a buck. It was just all about
politics for you.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
It's not about that for all politicians.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Absolutely, but some people show it better than others. Some
people act like they care better than others.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, you need to learn how to lie better.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
And I don't think Democrats are going to win so
easily in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think that America.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
I think because the Democrats are in such disarray, America
will say, you know it, just give me a sensible Republican.
Just give me a traditional conservative. Yeah, give you a
nicky Haley. Just somebody, just a regular conservative. I can
deal with that.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I think that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, I mean that that could definitely happen.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
There just has to be something like like radical and
disruptive on the Democrats side.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
And I think that they're also concerned.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
They're playing this like prevent defense and they're really concerned
about like ostracizing a group, Like if I say this,
will women be upset?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
If I say this.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Will black people will be upset. If I say this,
will trans be upset. And it's actually like a harder
position to be in to be a Democrat. You're the
party of progress. You have to push shit.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Forward, and you got to please everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
You want to please everybody with which is impossible. Conservatives
are actually trying to pull shit back.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
It's a way easier position to be in to be like,
all right, we went too far forward. But I think
what Democrats need to do is just start listening to
every day working class people.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I don't like.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
I think Democrats are too stuck in the ivy league.
It's just too much like pretentious finger wagon. That's not
what every day Americans are. And you need to get
the working class back immediately. And you're not going to
get that back when you just got a bunch of
these like super rich NEPO babies telling poor people how
they should think and who should they should vote for. Like,
I don't want you to tell me if you never
had a job, you can't tell me who I should
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vote for.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Simple as that you liked havin Crocket though I love
that girl.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Like that's the type of language that I want to start.
I want to I want people to start using like
when she said your Putin's hoe. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I don't agree with that sentiment actually to night, but
I like the I like the energy.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Because what people like about Trump despite him being like
a billionaire who got money from his dad, right, he.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Doesn't talk like them. He talks like me and you.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
The Indian journalist is asking him a question, dibble dabble,
dibble dabble, and then all of a sudden, dibble dabble, dibble.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Dabble, and then he goes, I don't know what the
hell that guy just said.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
That to me is the most relatable thing I've ever
seen in my entire life.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I go, yeah, that's what I would have said.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That's what he would have said.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
That's what you would have said if we were just
hanging around on the corner talking.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
So you like Trump because you don't feel like it's political.
He's just himself.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I'm not saying I'm not saying the reason why I
like him. I'm saying the reason why people relate to
him despite.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Him being a billionaire.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Because that's the thing Democrats don't seem to understand. They're like,
they say that we're in the pockets.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Of the rich. But there's a rich guy right there,
why do they relate to him? It's like, do you
see how he talks to people.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
He called shorty Pocahontas in the middle of the Senate here, yo.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And you know we're sitting right there. It's been normalized
so much that that wasn't even a headline.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Nobody sit there and take it.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, Pokemont's over here, pointed.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
At nobody cared talking about a little bit for him.
It wasn't even a headline. Nobody gave what He's.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Making fun of African nations. He's like, we gave forty
million to the Lessoto. Nobody knows what that is.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
That's hilarious like that.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I didn't know what it was either.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
I was that a real nation was running down and
stuff at the city. I thought that that was all jokes.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
That was real.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
He would have said, comedy, that's a mad contract.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
We need I need that vibranium.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I want to ask too, because you talking about walking
the line, you walk a dope line because you have
white fan base and black fan base. Is that difficult
for you?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I got wall I said, I got.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Your jokes, go everywhere with it.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I got the most.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Diverse audience in comedy.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
It's not even close, Like it's just like you come
to my show, it looks like the un So it's
like it's like to me, it's in my.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Experience, in my life. I'm a pretty curious guy.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
So like, if I find out something about your culture,
where you're from, whatever, I like talking about it, and
I'm going to make jokes about just because that's my
way of communicating the world. What I found is is
like when you make fun of people based on things
that they're proud of or they haven't realized about themselves,
they don't feel offended. They feel kind of seen, they
feel noticed, and they appreciate it. So all these different
groups will start coming out to shows, you know, and
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I was like.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Oh, this is really fucking cool.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
And when you ever, whenever it comes out to the show,
we all kind of submit to this idea like everybody's
gonna be made fun of, We're all gonna laugh at
each other, we're gonna laugh at ourselves, and it's a cool,
little beautiful thing. So to me, it's never been like
like black people found out about me before white people,
like I'm doing brilliantaires with him, like Guy Code. To
be honest, black people were on way before white people.
I mean eventually towards the end seasons the Guy Code,
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I think it like just crossed over. But early on
MTV two.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Was more like hip hop related.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah, and then I think Rogan, I think white people
started to find me, and then like you know, Indians
found me. Obviously I do the pop with Akas, but
also some stand up clips that would go viral out
there Albanians when we've seen me from some clip, and
like all these different groups would come out and yeah,
it's my favorite thing of looking out in the audience.
But I used to go to comedy clubs when I
was on tour and the the owners would be like
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because it would be all black people for the weekend,
and they would think I was like Gary Owen or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
They were like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I never called you, like, man, what's the secret?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Man? How do you get white people to about?
Speaker 7 (33:04):
What about?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
Because you said when people you make people feel good
because they feel seen, But what about in the moments
where you're making people like things that they people don't want?
To be seen for you're bringing that up and there upset,
Like I know black women was really upset at you
for a second.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Yeah, but I would say that they're upset for like
a joke that I tried to make on the pod
and like the problem with the pod. I mean, I
love pod, don't get me wrong. It's like it's not
really jokes. It's just like mounds of clay.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
A joke on stage is like a statue, you know,
you like molded it carved it.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Like you can't work out on the pod. Yeah, but
it's going to be.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
It's probably And like, so like what I always say
to people is like, first of all, if like I'm
making a joke, I'm like teasing you about something, right,
and you go to me, hey, that kind.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Of makes me feel ucomfortable.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I'm never gonna tease you again because I don't want
you to be uncomfortable about that thing.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Tell the man you're comfortable.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
You here, that's not that's not.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
What period, that's her real hair.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
Scout baby, Oh my god, that's beautiful period at over there?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, what are you looking at over there?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Looking at nothing got you?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
But so so what I'm saying is like I would
never like if I if I have a joke where
I'm just like teasing you forever and you're like, hey,
that actually makes me feel comfortable. Like, my goal is
not to make you feel comfortable, So I'll never tease
you about that.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Again.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
That doesn't mean I won't tease other people about that,
but to you specifically, I want so if there's somebody
at a comedy show and she like they're upset about something,
here's a perfect example. Girl at a comedy show. I
was saying some joke about some topic. I forget exactly
what is. She gets up and starts to walk out right.
This is a little comedy club, and I'm like, I'm like,
where are you going? And she's like, I just uh
just got to step out. I go why, and she's like,
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I just I don't want to I don't want to
make it about me. I go, man, what's the deal.
She says, Oh, it's just like the topic. And some
of the people in the audience start to like boo
her for being like like offended or whatever, and I go, yo.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
No, don't boo her.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
She's doing what we all wish an audience member would do.
She's going, hey, I feel uncomfortable. I don't want to
affect everybody else's time here. I don't want to make
this show about me. I'm just gonna step out and
I'm like, wow, Like, you're just like the most emotionally
intelligent person in the room right there. I don't ever
want to make her feel uncomfortable. So one on one,
I'm not going to do that. But I'm not gonna
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stop joking around about a whole idea just because it
makes one person uncomfortable.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
I used to watch go to Paul Mooney shows. Oh
my god, people would walk out of.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Paul Mooney shows all the time. And it was always
white people. Yeah, they would always lead.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
They was offended, like I'm leaving, and they wouldn't make
no noise about it. They would just get up and leave,
and Paul would be like, oh, why are you leaving? Nah,
it's not for me.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, I mean that's the perfect thing.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
If it's not for you, it's not for you, be
out exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
But there might be someone who finds it funny.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
So that's the trigger thing where it's like one individual
shouldn't decide what everybody finds funny. But in terms of
the thing you were talking about, like, yeah, if black
women are upset at that thing that said, yeah, you're
totally allowed to be upset. There's this rule that, like
a lot of comics say, like people aren't allowed to
be offended.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
You're allowed to feel however you want to feel, especially
if you don't know me.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Like, if you know me, you know my attentions, You're like,
you know, I'm just trying to bust balls and like
make a fucking stupid joke, and maybe the joke wasn't
that funny, but like, my intentions are always good.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
If you don't know me, you just see it, You're like, oh,
what fuck is this asshole? So I'm not even upset
at your response.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
Like that was my first take, And then we talked
about it in the room, like me and Charlotte, because
my first sake was like, well, who is he to
even like you're welcome, things were welcoming you here be
a guest.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
But well it's my thought.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
But yeah, I mean, but just in our world of
like black women and what we deal with as fre
as tropes. But I will say, after watching a special
and after you know, having conversations with Charla, I'm like,
I mean a joke is a joke as a joke. Like, granted,
some people are still gonna be upset. They probably be
upset that I just said that, But it depends on
the person and you can't win. You got to figure
out where you wo line you going to trade.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
I also think those those two dudes from the thing,
like they're in a tricky situation because like they I
think they had said that they didn't find women Atlanta attractive,
and I think a lot of black women in Atlanta
were like, oh shit, are you trying to say you
don't like black women?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Right?
Speaker 7 (37:10):
They don't get me started on them.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
They came out and apologized down, Okay, they gave like
five renditions of an apology, and they can still stay
where they're at.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
And I think, but I think people see.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
The bullshit like you know some sellouts when you see them,
So it's not like it's it's so they're trying to
like position it. They try to put it on me,
and some people fell for the bait, like Ryan Clark
felt for the bait and like made a whole like
cloud moment out of it when he didn't even realize,
Like the thing you should be addressing is the two
clowns that are basically saying black women are ugly.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
And then laughing at the joke on the other podcast.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
So it's like, that's the issue, not the comedian making
a joke about the hypothetical situation.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
Well, we can move on after this.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
I will argue that all of you guys were a
part of the problem in that moment, but I think
again it's to each his own. I didn't like though,
that they threw it one way and didn't take accountability
for the fact that, like, y'all were actively engaged and
it's fine if you wanted to do that.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
On oh, they were like.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
We should have, we should We were uncomfortable. We just
didn't want to say anything in the moment. We were just
trying to get through. And it's like, y'all want y'all
were not victims, y'all. Y'all were actively engaged.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
Just shut up.
Speaker 8 (38:12):
Y'all were actively engaged. Y'all were having a good time.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
The not uncomfortable. The only time they're uncomfortable is around
beautiful black women.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Obviously. Damn. That is a good question.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
How have podcasting changed the way you approach I guess
comedy and after you know, these couple of recent situations.
The situation I needs, the situation I saw, but how
it approached, how you discussed things now, you know, your.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Cares like an interesting one. Like I guess I could
deal with people not liking me because these.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Things a lot of times are momentarily like that. They'll
they'll not like you for a few weeks and they
think they won't like you then to move on to
somebody else that they don't like, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
So that's not really like the big, big issue, you know,
it's just a It is one of those things where
I go, like, all right, if I'm if I'm shooting
and it's on something like if it's on something really wild,
I want to make sure that I could ideally that
shot is is amazing, you know, but I'm gonna fail,
Like you don't make funny jokes every single time, and
(39:18):
I and I like shooting.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
That means I'm gonna shoot and miss a lot, you know.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
But I just got to basically understand that, Like they
are gonna be people that don't know me, and however.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
They interpret me. I can't control that.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Like there are people that think I'm like some right
wing maga lunatic and I I literally as much as
I would want them to be, Like, Bro, you've never
had a conversation with me, Like you don't know anything
about my.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Life like you people exactly.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
So it's like you can't control how people how people
feel about you, and you just have to continue, at
least in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Just put out good art.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
And when I have the opportunity to put out like
a good piece of art, like hopefully The Special does that,
Like hopefully you see the mo distilled version. We were
talking about this yesterday, Like you know, when he puts
out a book, it's the most distilled version of his
thoughts and there's less fat for you.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
To interpret in a shitty way.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
When I'm on a pod just shooting ship, there's tons
of fat for you to interpret. When you see The Special,
I feel like you get a really distilled version of
like how I think and how I feel. If you
get offended by something in The Special, I could really
live with that because I've worked hard to make it
pierce through, even like the sharpest armor for the most
(40:31):
protective armor.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Now do get that. I do also want to ask
do you still want to make love to Kendrick?
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Lamar.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I mean, like, honestly, it's hard to say.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
No to that.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
You find him a jacke?
Speaker 8 (40:42):
Yeah, man, did you see him in the clean jean?
Speaker 5 (40:46):
When I saw those jeans, I was like, boom boom,
bom boot.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
That was a joke.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
That shit raises him so fast. I'm just saying, he's little,
like I hate having to explain jokes.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
He's adye baty, So why is he telling he's gonna
kill my telling people to kill my friends.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
The biggest thing about.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
This whole shit that nobody I didn't.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
Even cared that he said this shit about like me.
Not saying jokes like that to me is like a
million people who said not say jokes. The next line
where he goes into the m words that Koon and
the Edwards being groomed, slide on both of them.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
What a slide mean to y'all?
Speaker 7 (41:27):
Take you out? But that's because I'm hold on.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
I ain't no explaining him. If you say kill my friends,
everything after that is fine. You took it there.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
If you say kill.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
My friends, because a lot of people thought that was
Charlemagne and Alex Media. So if you go the next
line you tell your fans to kill my friends, you
getting made.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Love to listen.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
I appreciate my friend trying to stick up for me,
but I don't think he was talking about I don't think.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
But how am I supposed to know?
Speaker 1 (41:56):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Like I didn't say anything for weeks. That was the
other thing, Like people ran with these different narratives. They
tried to act like after what I said, I was
worried about like getting death threats and shit. It's like no,
I was getting at the second they said it for
two weeks sensation shit, I filed my special I don't
really give a fuck. And then after that I was like, Yo,
we're gonna have some fun with this. But I don't
like this idea that like I'm this big bully. It's
(42:19):
like you told your people to kill my friends after
you say that, or that's the potential interpretation if somebody
said in a rap song to kill your friends.
Speaker 8 (42:32):
But do you understand though that that that was in
response to him feeling like you came at what he
would deem his friends or his people or people he's
trying to protect, talking about.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
They make fun of my friends.
Speaker 8 (42:41):
But if you in the street, if you outside, you outside,
you can't choose whether you out or in. It's like
you out or you in.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Okay, So then if he wants to play by those rules,
then don't be surprised at the response.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
That's what I'm saying. It feels like he's inside and outside.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Plus it's a weird matchup, right, because you got a rapper,
right who's a Prolympic rapper, and then you got a
comedian who's to say anything for the joke. So it's
not even just like what are we doing here?
Speaker 8 (43:04):
I think it's because it's platform and it's like people
listen to you and your voice and your podcast. That's
why that that's why that stuff went so viral, because
you got the numbers and then he has it too.
Speaker 7 (43:12):
So at the moment he's like, Okay, you know you.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Want to talk about Gary Owens.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
That's that's a good point.
Speaker 8 (43:16):
Nobody we don't know I'm not about I know exactly
what he was talking about because I heard, and I
knew exactly what.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I didn't think it was. I didn't think it was me.
I was like, why are we talking about me?
Speaker 7 (43:33):
Because of the ships and giggles and all the last.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, maybe he was talking about math.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
He got to be kept saying he was talking about me,
and I was like, wait, if he's talking about me,
and is he telling people to kill my friends?
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Well, I got to do something about that.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I got to do something.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
I gotta do something, Like I'm not a tough guy,
you know, I'm a certified lover boy.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
But you're always going to be perceived as the bully
because you're a white man.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I just thought that, right, like me, I thought you
mean that right? No, No, what you mean?
Speaker 6 (44:07):
No?
Speaker 5 (44:07):
Like, am I am I bully? Like I just thought
it was like you a bully. The size differential, that's
what I thought. No, it's a it's a you think
there's a racial dynamic. Duh, Yeah, I guess I didn't know.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
Yeah, of course. And it's the it's the privileged conversation.
It's like what you can get on the plat, like
the ships and giggles. Guys, they hadn'tize sixty times.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
You know, you said something is not as interesting. You said,
it's the privileged conversation. You know, we all can say
whatever it is we want to say. You just got
to be able to deal with the consequences.
Speaker 8 (44:35):
White most people can't exactly and most people don't have
the platform, and they're not they're not teflon down like you.
They don't have fifteen years of the game. They not
picked up by Fox News and seeing it and shaved
room like.
Speaker 7 (44:46):
You other other people. Right list is a political.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
You know that you just want to hear just he's
got a guy with glasses and a bow tie. Listen
his podcast Way for Charlotte made to say one bad
thing about the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
If we don't even think about stuff like that.
Speaker 8 (45:08):
But but it's the truth though, because you have a
platform that a lot of other people don't have. Kendrick
Lamar has a platform. So he's like, all right, bet
you're gonna get outside. You're gonna laugh, jokey, I'm outside
for my woman front of the Black Woman.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
It's lucid Kendrick.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
Because Kendrick does what he wants to do and he
gets rewarded for like you can do that.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
This whole thing got blown out of purport. Like honestly,
I think he's like obviously a prolific rapper.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
He's you know, he's it's.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
Not my the thing that I listened to all the time.
But like to say, he's not like fantastic at what
he does is ridiculous, And I have a lot of
respect for anybody that puts something out for judgment.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
I think there are a lot of people who, like,
they just.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Make reaction content, right, so they don't really know what
it's like to like create a piece of art and
put it out there in the world and let the
world judge it.
Speaker 7 (45:50):
You have to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
That takes balls, and I admire people that have balls.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Trump's trades, executive orders, what he do.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
He got rid of trance, he got rid of trans
what women, They're not around anymore. But that is that
is Yeah, that is how it is.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Isn't that how it is?
Speaker 7 (46:13):
Every day shine but the sun still come up.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
I think there are trans people, No, there are, But yeah,
just recognize him.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, but that he's allowed to, like, you can't force
me to recognize.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
He's allowed to not believe. But that don't mean that
it's not true.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
I was watching squid Game. If they didn't have the numbers,
I don't know if I'm recognizing what you know what
I mean, If.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
They didn't number them, I don't know if I'm recognizing everyone.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
I don't know I don't really.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Now listen, let me apologize before an Asian rapper comes
from me.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Jim, I'm sorry, hits me up.
Speaker 7 (46:58):
Get what you mean by the numbers?
Speaker 9 (46:59):
And oh god, no ever watch comedy, to watch watch comedy,
let her watch comedy.
Speaker 8 (47:11):
I wait, back to your special Yes, I was thinking,
and I know you and your wife have been together
for some years, so it's like a hypothetical question for
or more of an ego question. At any point when
that was happening and you found out that it was
your fault because of you know, just your pride and
your ego being hurt, did y'all feel like, man, like,
what if she leaves me because I can't make this happen?
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah, there's a part of you that goes through that.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
You're just like, will she not find me like as
masculine or not find me attractive? Like will something primarily
happen inside her where like she'll reject me because I
can't do the thing we're.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Put here to do.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
So you, yeah, you immediately go through that, and then
like that insecurity takes over and then you're like more
sensitive about certain things if she's not being sweet one
day You're.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Like, is that it?
Speaker 1 (47:52):
You know? Did she stop?
Speaker 5 (47:53):
So this ship tears apart relationships. That's why I tell people, like,
if you find out there's a problem, do I feel yeah,
IVF immediately instead of like going through the emotional turmoil
that could break you guys up. But but no, She's like,
I mean this is like a little thing in the
special nobody would really understand or even probably catch. But
(48:13):
like the first joke I make in the special is
about this you know about about guys who say we're
pregnant and I was insulting to women.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
And then I say, yes like my wife when my
wife says that we made a lot of money. Right.
The last piece to.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
The special is when my wife is is saying, uh,
you know when when she thought that she lost the baby,
and I'm apologizing. I'm like, I'm so sorry that this
is my fault and you got to bear the burden,
and she goes, you don't have problems. We have problems,
we'll do it together. So it's this idea that like
(48:50):
in this in the beginning, I'm having this really selfish
thought of like I make the money in the house.
And then when she's dealing with the toughest things she's
ever dealt with in her life. She's that's my fault.
She's still taking on some of it because we're together.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
So it's yeah, you find out who people are in
these tough situations. I got a good one. I got
a good one.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
What is your conversations like with fifty?
Speaker 1 (49:14):
I know, I know fifties. Fifty is the goat.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
I know he's he loves you as a comedian, and
I know you pull up for him.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
He pulls up for you. What what's your conversation with
him when all this is going on?
Speaker 5 (49:25):
Yo, I just yeah, he did I hit him up
or hit me up? Or we're trying to get him
on the pod and he's like, yeah, I'm pulling up.
But like he's the type of person that like he is, Like,
how do I explain it? It's like, you know how
like in wrestling, whether the people are booing or cheering,
like as long as they're making.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
A sound, he's not afraid of anything.
Speaker 5 (49:46):
There are people that are probably like scared to do
like credit Charlomagne too, Like Charlotte could have easily been like, hey,
the heat is on you and they're gonna be upset
at me doing a pot with you every single week,
and he know, let's take a few weeks off.
Speaker 6 (49:57):
But he's been there before, so he understands that's not
rock with my friends.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Stands by me.
Speaker 5 (50:04):
Always always, but that's just this is actually, this is
real ones. So he's the type of person also who
like he doesn't care what the trend is. So many
people are like motivated and moved by the trend, and
he's the type of person he don't give a fuck
what the trend is. And so if if there's like
negative energy, you know, give a fuck there's positive, he
don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
He moves to the beatings his own drum.
Speaker 5 (50:25):
But I remember Charlotte Mane had a dope thing to
me when when I was going through that last one
and there was like people, there's even people in my
community like comedians like saying some certain things about me,
and Charlott Mane was like, Yo, this is actually good.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
You're going through this right now.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
I go, why he goes, because you're about to hit
another level when the special comes out.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
And you got to pay close attention to who's hating now?
I go, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (50:46):
He goes?
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Uh, Because whoever's hating now has been hating the whole time. Absolutely,
But they didn't feel comfortable coming out. They were waiting
for you to look wounded.
Speaker 5 (50:54):
It's like laws of the jungle, you know what I mean,
Like the lion only attacks like the baby gazelle, you know.
And uh and like I took note, bro, I got yeah,
I got notes and I can't wait for them to feel.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
The life is out.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
Right now, right now.
Speaker 7 (51:14):
It's number two. What it is? Number two, number number
It was still but they said that.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Show was good, which what I heard it was really I.
Speaker 8 (51:23):
Didn't watch it because I didn't want to mess numbers up.
I said, I was gonna wait.
Speaker 5 (51:26):
You, but no, I heard running point. Running point is
like it's a global sensation, you know what I mean?
It's uh and that that's a Kate Hudson and chet
Hanks and salutes to them, like shout out to chet Man.
That motherfucker is so funny. And but yeah, we still
gotta knock them out.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
But yeah, it was cool. We beat U Bobby de
Niro show.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
Oh yeah, Black, this has got to be your algorithm.
Tyler Perry's Beauty and Black came back out.
Speaker 7 (51:54):
It's number two. Now he's number three.
Speaker 6 (51:56):
No, no, no, you might be looking at the top ten.
You got look at what I was looking at what
I was talking about you guys, that was.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Trending, right, No, top ten works too. Okay, we're a
big weekend. You're happy.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
I'm out there watching this week and I'm gonna check
it out this week and me and the wife gonna
relax and watch this.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
It's the only way to watch it.
Speaker 6 (52:12):
By the way, if you got a wife, you and
your significant other got to watch it together.
Speaker 5 (52:16):
The fact that you guys went through it, I'm really
curious your your perspective.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
But that's why we talk That's what we talked about.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
That's why we make it our business to talk about
it in the book, and we pot about it all
the time because so.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
Many people came up to and was like, yeah, we
were dealing with the same thing.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
We felt like failures and men came up to me
on the side it was like, I thought it was
just me.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
I don't know how to console my wife.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
But I mean, once you get through that other side,
you realize it makes you look at your child a
whole lot different. It just is like because it's the
most precious thing in the world. And if you're able
to have a child, you know you you hold that
really really close to your heart.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
Yeah, man, but thank you.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah, absolutely, And that's awesome you put in your book.
Speaker 5 (52:49):
I hope we destigmatize it, like, I don't want people
to feel ashamed of wanting to have a kid.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
And you should have that ship by any means necessary.
Speaker 5 (52:55):
Like I feel like that's the thing missing in the
masculinity conversations. All these fucking guys out there saying what
it is to be a man. None of them got kids.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
You know. You know what the thing is is your
feminist arc. This is gonna be your feminist or.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Been a feminist.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Broll.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
I'm a proud girl, dad. That's right.
Speaker 6 (53:08):
I told you having a girl's gonna change your baby.
Speaker 7 (53:10):
Girl.
Speaker 5 (53:10):
She's thirteen months. Thirteen months. Yeah, I've been trying to
get you on a feminist ship.
Speaker 7 (53:14):
For a while.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
I've been a feminist.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
I know, ever since you got depressed or whatever you got,
ever since.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Since you got anxiety.
Speaker 6 (53:24):
Christ But I'm gonna be honest with you. They've gone
too far just having this conversation more, they've gone too far.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
I'm on my feministart. You're your mask on this art.
You're back.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
You got to bring him back. It's the little.
Speaker 8 (53:39):
You got too scared of what being a girl?
Speaker 7 (53:43):
Dad?
Speaker 5 (53:43):
Oh yeah, it's every day is terrifying. But it's also
just like the most beautiful rewarding thing ever. Like she
just walks in the room, she's so excited, gives me
like the big hug, and you're just like, this is
nothing else is important even in life.
Speaker 4 (53:55):
All Right, Well, listen Andrews shows Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
It don't be a stranger just because a little short
five ft two miguite over.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Yeah, I mean, do you do a podcast where you
can still come up here?
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Okay, okay, okay, I'll come on.
Speaker 5 (54:04):
You want to thank you guys for always man, this
is this is legendary Andrew shoutz.
Speaker 4 (54:09):
It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up
in the morning.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Breakfast Club.
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Morning, everybody, It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club, law La Rosa, it's here,
and we got a special guest.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
In the building. He Ky Walker.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Hello, everybody, Andrews Shows, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
How's it going.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
How you feeling?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I feel good, man, you know it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I was talking to Charlemagne about you yesterday. I was like,
we've been doing the Breakfast Club so long. We got
a real opportunity to see different people grow.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
And and you were one of them.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I was like, I remember andrew Shows starting off, and
in the fact I seen a couple of months ago
that you were.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
You sold out the Garden a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And had your dad with you, so light work.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I was like, so, how does that feel that girlfriend?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
We actually seen the grind, so people can't just say
it was overnight because it's white.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
No, we actually seen the grind.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
It was it was it was a while. I remember
the first time I came to the Breakfast Club. I
think Charlomagne walked out there five minutes.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I was so excited.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I was like, hey, man, come on show you. He
was like, yah, I got you, bro. He comes and
he starts to show you. I got my man. Shoulds here?
All right, I'll take it away, and then he just left.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
But it was still a great interview with this one.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
I'm gonna sit here and I'm gonna talk, but I'm like,
I'm more interested to hear what Lauren.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And that was my guy.
Speaker 7 (01:15):
I was telling my friend.
Speaker 8 (01:16):
I was like, it was like, what that's Charlot make homie,
I said, I promise you he's gonna be like.
Speaker 7 (01:19):
I'm not going to talk. I want to hear what
y'all have to Because.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I talked, I know what he thinks about things, but
I want.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
To talk every week.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yes, I'm more interested to he with with.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You'll think he's gonna chime.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
And you'll see once he gets a little spicy, he
gets a little spicy, he'll.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Be in there.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
So I want.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I want to tell man, you had all of us
thinking that that poor girl's family died.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, Port Williams. I was terrifying.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
He's looking at this note and then I see her
looking at the note and then I'm like, Damn, somebody
died and the only thing I'm thinking is is she
gonna stop the interview? You know what I mean, like, yeah,
there's this moment where you're like, does she care so
much about fame?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
She's like, well, they are already dead. They ain't gonna
be bored.
Speaker 8 (02:02):
She started to get teary eye, and the way she
looked at her sister, I thought somebody died too, And
I'm like, ship, all I was.
Speaker 7 (02:07):
Thinking is weird getting exclusive.
Speaker 8 (02:11):
Works a major exclusive right here that I'm like, let
me see.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
What it said because I need to anchor in his headline.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But see that's the TMV brain from Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
And I'm so bad and I love sorry for not
gonna everybody's.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Good, I said, I know Charlamage, even though he's an asshole.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
If that would happen, he would have stopped the interview and
be like, hey, I need you to go outside. I
know him for that that. I knew it would have
been some type of joke. I just don't know how
far he was gonna go.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
You know, It's funny when Schutz walked in, Shultz looked
at that couch and he was like, Yo, that's the
whole couch, big.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
D I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
The couches the I mean, I remember we were on
Brilliant Idiots when we first saw that and uh yo,
oh my god, and said, uh so, why is she
called the lift?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
She should you know she why didn't she call a
she called a forklift? And uh and then she came on.
It was really funny, like I was.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Watching the episode and she's quite endearing. She's just like
really really endearing voice.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
But when you guys moved.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
The couch up and I walked in, I was like, oh,
that's the famous couch and I didn't know that there
are three pieces.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
One part semi circle out, so you know, we pulled
the whole thing up. Yeah, she filled that thing out.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
There's no way she's making into Hanna Civic, Like there's
no way she said.
Speaker 7 (03:31):
She could get into PC cruiser.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, maybe God bless her.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I wanted to know.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
You know, with this day and age with comedy, right,
we've recently seen Damion Wade say he's not going back
on the road because they will cancel you for everything.
But you are somebody that don't give a f what
you say, what people think, and why is that?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah? I don't know, that's a good. That's a good Uh.
I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I don't really care, but I think that the days
of canceling or done like I think I think it's changed,
which I think they kind of like pendulum is swung,
and I think people kind of have a sense of
humor now or they feel like less effective and there's
their ability to cancel.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
I think you don't care because you threw what could
have been a hail Mary, or it could have been
a well coordinated play. It turned out to be a
well quarter because when Hollywood there was a period and
I remember this vividly.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
One time Andrew comes in the studio.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
And Andrew was saying how his agent told him that
Hollywood does not want white straight.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
They tried to gave me white straight male.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
So they me, they gave you, They gave me every
day with me to try dating.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
They gave me and they made my character gay film. Yeah,
it was great. Say what ahead what do you mean?
Speaker 8 (04:47):
Because you know it's always been that thing of like
that happens to black men and that's.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
How you like, that's just like that's just like the
lowest hanging through.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I don't think the dress ship is about being gay.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I just think that, like it's it's white people writing
scripts that like don't have any friends that aren't white.
So then when they see black people, they see masculinity, right,
like this is there, like like what is it? Unconscious
like bias? Right, So they see black dudes like, oh,
that's the most masculine thing. So like, what's the funniest
thing to see the most mascul masculin thing in a dress?
Like to see the rock and address is funny, you know?
(05:21):
So I think that's really it's like Arnold Schwarzenegger. I
think they did it to him.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Too, because you just see this big, buff guy in
a dress. But yeah, they I remember the guy who.
I remember the guy who it was his show. He
put me in the show Paul Riser. Remember Paul Riser?
He I mean he was making a million dollars an
episode on his show on sitcom back in the day.
You remember the fuck I'm talking about. He was like
one of the biggest sitcoms starts.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
He's a great guy, and we were doing the show
I think that ended up on Hulu and he called me.
He's like, listen, man, you know there's a lot of
white people on the show that took place in the seventies.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
It was about the Johnny Carson Show.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
He's like two weeks before you start feeling. He's like,
hey man, we gotta make a character gay. And I
was like, what do you what do you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
How this is before this? Before Yeah? So I was
he was like how. I was like, how gay? And
he's uh he'.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I was like, why do we have to make it gay.
He's like, it's just a lot of white people on
the shows. We got to find a way to mix
it up. They made one guy crippled.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
That was the most hilarious. I don't know, but it.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Was like they couldn't make us all gay, So like
one guy gotta be crippled.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
And I was like, why don't you ask.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
I better be limping around this ship than butt, you know,
so and.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
So guy.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
So so yeah, so they made it was crazy, like
I had to change one of the scripts.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
It was to one of the guys.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
It got too gay. They want.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
They want me to get gang bangs like they they had.
So they had like this one script. I got it
on the day.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
They're like, yeah, it'd be really funny if you were
like walking into this room there's three guys behind you,
And I was like, man, let me tell you what's not.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Y'all taking this DYA ship too far?
Speaker 7 (07:14):
I want you to get the train.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It was and it was like in the seventies or
like it was like aids, you know what.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
There was no protection for that ship and now we
got three different guys fallowed.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Me into a bedroom.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So that was in the script.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
But I was in the script and I was like,
I ain't doing that ship.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I was like, so what did you do?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
There's a scene where apparently like my hands are on
the wall, and.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Then like Johnny, yeah, but nothing. I don't do anything.
But the audience is gay for thinking about it, y'all.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I don't my hands on the wall.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
But all I was simply saying was there was a
point where Andrew was like, look, I'm gonna go out
on my own terms.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
So if everybody's going this way, I'm gonna make the
kind of comedy I wanted me and if it works,
it works.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
If it doesn't, it doesn't. But it ended up working.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I did.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
My thing was like I saw a lot of people
kind of watering down their shit for what the TV
networks were putting on and I got empathy for the
people that work at the networks too, Like you got
a kid who's in private school, you want to build
a pool at your house or whatever. You're not trying
to lose your job because I want to make some
crazy joke. So but it felt water down, and I
didn't want to change the comedy. So I was like,
where can I put out the comedy? And honestly, like
(08:27):
having the pod with Charlott Mane and we're putting out
like brilliant idiot stuff and we're saying crazy jokes and
like people really seem to like it, and I was like,
I think there's an appetite for this shit online.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I saw your.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Guys' success, Like just seeing your Guys show kill It
on YouTube, it just kind of reminded me like people
are consuming stuff on YouTube, They're consuming high quality content,
long form. You know what if we just started putting
a stand upbout there, and I think knowing that there
was this place for it made me feel way more confident.
I didn't really care if it was like on a network.
I just wanted to do the comedy. I want to
(08:58):
do it.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And then it worked.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Man, that was risky because you was giving away your
bread and butter though, because you're giving up parts of
your stand up special.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
But at the same time, it's like I was writing
so much, you know, back then, because I had to
go back to the same markets every single year. I
had to go back to all many every single year.
So I didn't want to do the same jokes from
last year, you know, like people like that's something like
early on, I was like, I'm not gonna waste people's money,
you know, every tour. I was like, people work hard,
they got to get a babysitter, like they got it's
(09:27):
a whole night, it's dinner.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's expensive to come out to a show.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
So I was like, this got to be the best
show that they see. At least we had an attempt to
make it. So I would have a new set, and
then what was I doing for the old set? And
I put that ship out there, and like the jokes
would start to go over and I was saying, some
wild ship and.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
You pissed a lot of people off, and you ever
got threatened?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, I think Diddy, but you you would had a
lot of people were thinking about when he said that,
when you hear that name, what comes out?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Like, what do you think the baby behind behind you?
I love how much you guys to embraced white boyfriend.
It makes me so happy, Like that's why you guys
are you guys are the black pioneers A white boyfriend
like I feel and you know what you know? And
the way he goes too far like you know, white
boyfriend is no, I'm please, just like the straight guys
(10:16):
making gay jokes with each other.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
Oh okay, that my old job. Yeah that is very
white exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, so we just call that gay.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Well, we call white boyfriend because it's not gay. It's
two straight guys doing it. Okay, yeah, but once there's
a gay guy involved, then it becomes gay. No.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
So the white boyfriend I experienced at my last job,
there would be a gay guy involved and it still
was just oh, this is a great this is funn Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, but that's what they said in the office. But
when they left, they were like, yo, they're gay for
doing that.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Ship.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I'm just telling you that's it.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
It was my first time seeing it. I was like wow,
and you didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Know what to think, right, Yeah, yeah, so this.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Is like classic you know when white dues hang out
that it's all gay jokes.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Okay and Mexican shout of Mexican. Mexican got good gay.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Oh few definitely got a good Remember on training day
with a dude was like, you've had your ship pushed in?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Oh yeah, that seemed like rape. I don't know if
he was.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Joking about that is like a I didn't understand why
we wanted that.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Why wouldn't you want him to go go get an animal, bro?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah you want to clean that out, you know what
I mean? So okay, So Mexican gay jokes.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
No, they never want to eat the corn the long way.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
That usually you know on the side.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But if you haven't seen a dude the long way,
that's crazy.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Finished my shot.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
But I was asking have you got threatened to a
point where he was like I got a chill out
because you anybody anyhow I got I got punched on stage.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I used to get thrown at me.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Fight uh not I mean box?
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah, I used to box like I wasn't like but
I'm not like something like trying to fight everybody.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
Tough guy at all, but box and pilates.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Yeah, there you go that's yeah, yeah, if we're organized
and we're in a ring, I'll probably fuck you up
from the street and ship.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I'm like, I don't really want.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
To go do all that, but but yeah, yeah, I
used to go through through that kind of stuff all
the time, but I just wasn't really funny enough back then.
That's the way, you know, like you have the ideas,
you just don't got the skills.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
To execute it.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
It's not silly enough yet.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
And then eventually I think you could develop the skills
and then you could say even wilder jokes but in
a way where people find it kind of funny and sow,
that's something I.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Never heard you say. I've never heard you say you
didn't feel like he was funny enough back then, as.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
I look back, As I look back, like you know,
like there was I was. I had funny jokes, but
I also just didn't have the skills to execute some
other ones. So it would just be I just say
some wild shit and I'm like, yeah, this is funny,
and then you know, sometimes the jokes are work, and
then sometimes they just really wouldn't work. But I feel
like now I'm getting close to a point where even
if somebody hates the topic I'm talking about, I can
(12:44):
make it funny enough where they could they could laugh
at it.
Speaker 8 (12:47):
You talked about the censorship era being good for comedy
because it set like certain boundaries.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Like what not to do.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, it got to be naughty.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
Yeah, But so having those boundaries and then you you
look back at your old tape, you weren't as funny,
so you had to develop so you have like there's
a whole system behind you of like like you sit
and watch your highlight tapes and you use all of
that to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
I also think censorship like in a weird way.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I don't believe in censorship, but the fact that it
exists makes you have to be sharper, you know, like
if you could we're in the air, if you could
say anything right now, and comedy will probably get a
little bit more like an absurdist and a reverend because
you could say anything.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So there's nothing that's like too edgy. Does that make sense?
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah, So now comedy usually gets like a little like
weird and out there, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Remember that, remember Zach Alafanakus remember him? Yeah first, yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Zach's great.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
That type type of comedy where it's not like here's
a political take, but it's more like he's.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
A character and it's a little weird.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
That type type of comedy gets popular when you could
say anything, and then when you know, censorship comes back.
Usually the guys like a Chris Rock, you know, I mean,
just these like historic figures.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
But that's why I think well crafted just that's why
the Life Specialist actually special, because well crafted jokes have
to make a comeback now because we live in the
world where everybody just says, in your watch it, but
what's the what's the joke?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
How are you packaging?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Agree?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Yes, yeah, And people will give you that liberty like
if if it's good, if the joke is good, they'll
let you rock with it, even if they don't like
the topic or even the opinion. They you know, they're
they're like, okay, I know what you're trying to say. Also,
the Life one is just like so it's so personal
and it's so vulnerable. I think I get a little
leeway with.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
The other ship.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
I had to watch. I had to watch it twice.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
No, I don't like celebrate it, but okay, so the
first time I watched it, maybe because it was so personal,
like I was like, Okay, where's the fun Like I
wasn't laughing at everything. Yeah, but it was because I
was trying to follow the story and I'm like, wait,
like low key you like that was that had to
be tough for you. And then I went back again
and I watched it and it was funny and I
was like okay, but I'm like, I don't know why
I had I've never had to do that.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well. Listen, the fact that you watch it twice, I
mean that to me is great. And you know, whatever
you get out of it, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Did you feel a little bit retarded that you didn't
get it the first time?
Speaker 7 (15:06):
It wasn't that I didn't get it.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
I think when I because that was my first time
ever seeing you do stand up, and I've heard so
much about you, I think I instantly just thought I
was going to be like, oh my god, but I
was like, no, wait, he y'all couldn't have a baby,
and there's all this stuff that was there. I think
my empathy for you came in and I didn't find
it funny. And then the second time the empathy was
removed and I'm like, oh, he's funny. But yeah, I
(15:31):
didn't get it though, But I've never I brought that
up because I'm wondering, like, is there is that on purpose?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Well, there's a there's an interesting thing that like, so
the beginning of the special, I say we had the
baby specifically for that reason is that I felt like
the audience would be too concerned to destroy. So if
you paid attention to the beginning, you might have felt better.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
Well, I did hear that in the beginning, and I
watched you a brilliant idiot, so I thought you had
the baby, but I think it just felt so heavy
because you don't necessarily hear men. And you talked about
this in the special, talking about, okay, we couldn't have
the baby because.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
It was my fault, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
Like, and I'm like, he's laughing and joking, but like,
as a man, I can't that.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Probably it probably still strokes your ego a little bit
when you talk.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
About honestly know, like it's it's weird.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
At first, I dealt with it, right, like, so my sperm,
my sperm doesn't swim.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
That's like the issue that I talk And.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
There I heard the joke that tailor dropped to.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
What Taylor killed me?
Speaker 5 (16:26):
She said yeah, because we I beat her in a race.
And then I was saying something to her. She was like, yeah,
I run fast in your sperm.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Was bad and nobody knew it. We knew at the
time when he was the people.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Yes, I remember.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
So it was like that tough room over there.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Oh no, it was brutal, but the joke was fantastic,
like you got to keep it in so uh yeah.
So it's like when when I thought it was my
wife's fault, which is what every guy thinks that's going
through fertility ship is I felt uncomfortable talking about on
stage because that's like her very deep personal business and
a lot of women feel incredibly insecure right about that, Right,
(17:02):
it makes him fee less of a woman, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Right.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
Once I found out it was my fault, I remember
the doctor said. I was like, what's the deal. The
doctor was like, uh, your sperm swims like uh Drew
Ski and a riptide.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
They said you were a C C.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Plus, which I feel like he just said the plus
so I could feel better about myself, which was nice
of him.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But immediately after that I start going what the fuck
is wrong with me? Like why you know, like does
God not want me to have kids? Like it's like
you have like this really weird like weak.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
And then once we decide to go through the I
actually want to like beat the system. I was like, no,
I think I could do it anyway. Like I got
like really competitive. And then every time that we would
try my and it didn't work, my wife would like
cry and I felt like it was really selfish if
we just didn't go through this other process. Second we
went with the other process, I felt really comfortable talking about.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
It on stage.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Like actually, once I found out it was me felt
comfortable talking about the stage because it wasn't like my wife's.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Issue and I'm like exposing her like deep dark secret.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
And when I started talking about on the stage, man,
the amount of people that would like come up to
me and send me these dms, like these beautiful things
about like what they're going through and I actually IVF
and like eventually having kids and like you really get
to see how I think we talk so much about
how people are trying to avoid kids or they're upset
that they got a girl pregnant, and there's like all
this like negativity around kids. When you talk to IVF couples,
(18:32):
you are or are talking to the people that face
the reality they might never bring life into this world.
And then, by the grace of God, we're able to
see this thing that they've cherished and maybe we're trying
to make for years.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
So you have the most gratitude for your child?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yes, Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
It's like you see the way that people react and
how emotional they get about their children, and it's like,
you get this, just this beautiful. And then the people
who had kids and it was kind of easy for them,
they'll send me these messages about like the gratitude they
have for their kids, and they didn't realize it, you know,
they it was kind of lucky for them.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
So yeah, it was.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
It was really it was a really cool thing that
I did not expect. I thought I was going to
be the only one going through this shit.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
It's a tight knit community, like most people don't necessarily realize.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I got six kids, so the first four big them out.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
God, we were trying to have the fifth one and
we couldn't get pregnant, so.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
We tried IVF.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Oh really, we tried IVF for it because insurance didn't
cover it, but as expensive as a well the effort
to the point when when we had the powerhouse concerts
up pair, I would have to give my wife the
shot because you have to give her a shot at
a certainty.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You gotta make it. It's like a cocktail. Yes, I
had to make it at home. They're giving you syringes.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So in the middle of the concert, I'm in the
back doing the shot, this, that, and the other, and
it still didn't work.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
So we was like we took it as well. Maybe
God said four is enough, but at.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Least you had four. Imagine the one that to have zero,
but it just got one.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
It happened, happened bro naturally, which was the craziest thing ever.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Sometimes it's the stress, Like I know, it's the most
it's the dumbest thing you guys probably, I mean, you
know about this just because all the mental health stuff
you do. But like the way that your brain can
play tricks on your body that you got you put
so much pressure on, like having a kid and your
body reacts negatively like that. Like there's a lot of
people who try IVF it works, and then the next
kid they have naturally and it's just your body goes
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all right, this kid time, Like, now you're not so stressed.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You got one and that might be it.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
You guys went all right, you know, if we're supposed
to have four, that's what we're supposed to have.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Forget it, and then you stop trying and immediately bang.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Two more, two more.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
The women that don't have kids, imagine how they would
feel if they knew how many abortions certain women got.
Speaker 8 (20:34):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
When I was going through this, I was like, I
don't even understand who gets abortions?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah, like I was, it was so.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Hard for us to get pregnant. I didn't even know
that it was about like my sperm or her eggs.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I was like, who's getting abortion? Like, how is this possible?
Once I knew, Yeah, I saw it, But yeah, it's
a deeper.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I'm glad you spoke about it because so many people
dealing with it. Like we talked about in the book
that when you do it, so many people hit you.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
You'd be surprised and it's the last taboo thing and
people are so and secure about it because you don't
want your partner to be embarrassed.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
So like, if I'm telling you it was easier that
it was me.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
If it was my wife's ovaries, I don't think I'd
ever talk about it because it could.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Be humiliating for women.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
For dudes, yes, humilion for me, But like as a comedian,
I think I'm a little like I find the joy
in that humiliation.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, it's just it's easy for me to deal with.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
And but I'll tell you after talking about it and
seeing all the other people going.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Through it, it's like, yeah, that's why.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Honestly, when we had Trump on, there was like three
things that I want to ask him, and one of
them I wanted.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Him to say publicly that he would he would protect IVF.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
So let's talk about that. How did you meet Trump?
How did you get the like how are you to
get this?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
They reached out and they were like do you want
to have them on? And we're like, yeah, we want
to do in the studio, and then they were like,
we can't do it in the studio. Like you know,
Sean knows, it's like it's a you guarantee the assassination.
It's like windows everywhere.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
It's like I don't even know why we were trying,
Like you walk right out the elevator. It's windows everywhere.
It is bad. But uh.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Right, like you know, I hope that doesn't happen, but
you know so, but we were really pushing for that.
And then and then when we did the pod, Yeah,
I like spoke to his kid for a while before
and I spoke to Dana White, which one junior junior,
and I was like, yeah, just tell me some stories.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
And like I just kind of wanted to say again
the party.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
You talked about the party, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
So he told me about that one.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
He told me, Yeah, yeah, there's a part I didn't
say on the interview, but uh, because I said he
just went up to the roof and kicked everybody out.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
But like what Junior told me is he was in
his underwear.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
So like just imagine and imagine Trump Trump underwear Junior.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
For the people who haven't seen the interview, Schultz in
the group they talk about Donald Trump, Junior had like
a huge yeah. And then they had a third body
out because Trump found out about the party.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Well yeah, he wasn't supposed to be back.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
Yeah, he was supposed to be back. It was kind
of something on like a movie my dad comes home.
But he like never mentions it. So Trump Junior is
like almost like it didn't happen exactly. Know, he was
in his under so that party got real crazy.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah, that was the first time he addressed it in
like forty years or something like that.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
He never addressed it with his kid.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
You know, there's a guy in this room, a young
black male who said he watched Trump on flagrant. He goes, yo,
he goes that flaggerant interview is gonna get Trump elected.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
That guy that you're talking about, he's been magging for
a while.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
He was waiting for that moment.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
I felt the same way. That was the first time
I looked at him as like a person. I was like,
why am I like? I was like, oh my god,
he's a granddad. He cares about his kids. But it
was like y'all made him. He was having a good time.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
That and the commercial where another young black guy in
this room did a commercial that Trump he was and
played over.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I met that who made that commercial over and over again.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You know what he said, Yeah, he.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Was like, hey, thanks, Charlotte Mane really helped us out.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I mean that commercial was unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
It's really crazy that the election was decided in this
room right now.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
We don't get enough credit.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
But do you get that response from people don't like, Yo,
I'm humanized somebody that like we low key. Even when
he got shot, felt like people were like, oh, we
don't want that to happen.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
But so what I'd say to people, and I have
like a way more humble take than I think most like.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I don't think that we had any impact on the election.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
I don't think that any of the podcasts like I
think that America. I think what America had decided is
a lot of America weren't voting for Trump. They were
rejecting the current administration. They just didn't like what was happening.
And I think the way that the current administration was campaigning,
they're basically kind of saying, Hey, everything's good, We're gonna
kind of keep doing this. I think a lot of
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Americans were like, I don't really feel like it's good,
so I'm gonna go for anything but this. But I
think the idea of Trump is always he's a populist,
So if you vote for him, it means you love
him and you're obsessed with him and your maggot till
you die. Where I think a lot of it is
really just rejection in the same way that when people
voted for Biden, they didn't really.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Vote for Biden. They voted against the chaos of.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Trump and the chaos of the world at that time.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
Yes, it was COVID, it was George Floyd, but also
we talk about this America had his mind made up
for two years that they were voting for Trump.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
We knew that.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Like, it's not like we knew that we were saying that,
we were saying Biden needed to step down because we.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Knew Biden wasn't gonna win November.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
It wasn't until the vice president, you know, became the
nominee that it was like, okay, well maybe maybe maybe
there is another option, but everybody knew it's not.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So what do you think about everything that Trump's doing now?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Well, what specifically, there's a whole lot.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I mean, there's so many orders.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Joe Rogan, I think it was Megan Kelly, but yeah,
I love the Yeah, the Gulf of America. I mean
it's North America, Central America, South America. Why we call
it the Gulf of Mexico. It should feel like the
Gulf of America. It's not the Gulf of North America.
It's just the Gulf of America. But again, what I
like is just like I like saying audacious shit. I'm
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an American, like Americans in general, like in our DNA,
where like we like risk takers and we like people
who are brave. And I think that's like the tricky
thing for Democrats right now. And keep in mind, I'm
like a lifelong Democrat. I grew up in an arts family.
Both my parents were dance teachers, like I live in
New York City my whole life. So what I need
is some energy on the Democratics side. We talk about
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this all the time, is I need some like shit talk.
I need some bodacious shit talk. And I think the
thing that really Americans care about right now is that
it's it's things are expensive, and I think Democrats need
their build the wall and whatever that is. It has
to happen too what people are struggling with right now.
So if they first have to build a team, well exactly,
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but yo, it could just be one outsider, like like
I think it's dollar eggs, Like eggs are a dollar.
I think you just start saying shit like that. It
doesn't matter if you don't know how to do it,
but you start saying something that's going to resonate with people,
and that's the only way.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
And I think that if they make it a class.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Issue, they win this election pretty easily come the next election.
But they're afraid to do that because a lot of them
are in the pockets of the billionaire class and the corporations.
So they make it about identity politics. They it's all
these people that go to like Harvard and Yale that
like pretend to give a fuck about you guys. They
don't actually give a fuck about you guys, but they
get patted on the back for pretending to do it.
And now they're in this situation where the rest of
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America's like I can't afford eggs, so I can't really
care about the bathroom. Like I don't give a fuck
about who goes in the bathroom because I needed buy eggs.
Until I can buy eggs, I don't worry about the bathroom.
So you got to start addressing people where their problems are.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
And you know what's proven that point when you look
at like Gavin Newsom on his podcast with Charlie kirk right.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
He wants to so bad bro the motherfuckers, which exactly,
but you see how quick he is to distance himself
from trans athletes and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
So now it's like, oh, so you never cared.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, they never cared.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
You never gave a buck. It was just all about
politics for you.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
It's not about that for all politicians.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Absolutely, but some people show it better than others. Some
people act like they care better than others.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, you need to learn how to lie better.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
And I don't think Democrats are going to win so
easily in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think that America.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
I think because the Democrats are in such disarray, America
will say, you know it, just give me a sensible Republican.
Just give me a traditional conservative. Yeah, give you a
nicky Haley. Just somebody, just a regular conservative. I can
deal with that.
Speaker 9 (28:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I think that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, I mean that that could definitely happen.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
There just has to be something like like radical and
disruptive on the Democrats side.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
And I think that they're also concerned.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
They're playing this like prevent defense and they're really concerned
about like ostracizing a group, Like if I say this,
will women be upset?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
If I say this.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Will black people will be upset. If I say this,
will trans be upset. And it's actually like a harder
position to be in to be a Democrat. You're the
party of progress. You have to push shit.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Forward, and you got to please everybody.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
You want to please everybody with which is impossible. Conservatives
are actually trying to pull shit back.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
It's a way easier position to be in to be like,
all right, we went too far forward. But I think
what Democrats need to do is just start listening to
every day working class people.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I don't like.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
I think Democrats are too stuck in the ivy league.
It's just too much like pretentious finger wagon. That's not
what every day Americans are. And you need to get
the working class back immediately. And you're not going to
get that back when you just got a bunch of
these like super rich NEPO babies telling poor people how
they should think and who should they should vote for. Like,
I don't want you to tell me if you never
had a job, you can't tell me who I should
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vote for.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Simple as that you liked havin Crocket though I love
that girl.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Like that's the type of language that I want to start.
I want to I want people to start using like
when she said your Putin's hoe. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I don't agree with that sentiment actually to night, but
I like the I like the energy.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Because what people like about Trump despite him being like
a billionaire who got money from his dad, right, he.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Doesn't talk like them. He talks like me and you.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
The Indian journalist is asking him a question, dibble dabble,
dibble dabble, and then all of a sudden, dibble dabble, dibble.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Dabble, and then he goes, I don't know what the
hell that guy just said.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
That to me is the most relatable thing I've ever
seen in my entire life.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I go, yeah, that's what I would have said.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
That's what he would have said.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
That's what you would have said if we were just
hanging around on the corner talking.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
So you like Trump because you don't feel like it's political.
He's just himself.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I'm not saying I'm not saying the reason why I
like him. I'm saying the reason why people relate to
him despite.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Him being a billionaire.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Because that's the thing Democrats don't seem to understand. They're like,
they say that we're in the pockets.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Of the rich. But there's a rich guy right there,
why do they relate to him? It's like, do you
see how he talks to people.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
He called shorty Pocahontas in the middle of the Senate here, yo.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And you know we're sitting right there. It's been normalized
so much that that wasn't even a headline.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
Nobody sit there and take it.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, Pokemont's over here, pointed.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
At nobody cared talking about a little bit for him.
It wasn't even a headline. Nobody gave what He's.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Making fun of African nations. He's like, we gave forty
million to the Lessoto. Nobody knows what that is.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
That's hilarious like that.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I didn't know what it was either.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
I was that a real nation was running down and
stuff at the city. I thought that that was all jokes.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
That was real.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
He would have said, comedy, that's a mad contract.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
We need I need that vibranium.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
I want to ask too, because you talking about walking
the line, you walk a dope line because you have
white fan base and black fan base. Is that difficult
for you?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I got wall I said, I got.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Your jokes, go everywhere with it.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I got the most.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Diverse audience in comedy.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
It's not even close, Like it's just like you come
to my show, it looks like the un So it's
like it's like to me, it's in my.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Experience, in my life. I'm a pretty curious guy.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
So like, if I find out something about your culture,
where you're from, whatever, I like talking about it, and
I'm going to make jokes about just because that's my
way of communicating the world. What I found is is
like when you make fun of people based on things
that they're proud of or they haven't realized about themselves,
they don't feel offended. They feel kind of seen, they
feel noticed, and they appreciate it. So all these different
groups will start coming out to shows, you know, and
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I was like.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Oh, this is really fucking cool.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
And when you ever, whenever it comes out to the show,
we all kind of submit to this idea like everybody's
gonna be made fun of, We're all gonna laugh at
each other, we're gonna laugh at ourselves, and it's a cool,
little beautiful thing. So to me, it's never been like
like black people found out about me before white people,
like I'm doing brilliantaires with him, like Guy Code. To
be honest, black people were on way before white people.
I mean eventually towards the end seasons the Guy Code,
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I think it like just crossed over. But early on
MTV two.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Was more like hip hop related.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah, and then I think Rogan, I think white people
started to find me, and then like you know, Indians
found me. Obviously I do the pop with Akas, but
also some stand up clips that would go viral out
there Albanians when we've seen me from some clip, and
like all these different groups would come out and yeah,
it's my favorite thing of looking out in the audience.
But I used to go to comedy clubs when I
was on tour and the the owners would be like
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because it would be all black people for the weekend,
and they would think I was like Gary Owen or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
They were like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I never called you, like, man, what's the secret?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Man? How do you get white people to about?
Speaker 7 (33:04):
What about?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
Because you said when people you make people feel good
because they feel seen, But what about in the moments
where you're making people like things that they people don't want?
To be seen for you're bringing that up and there upset,
Like I know black women was really upset at you
for a second.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Yeah, but I would say that they're upset for like
a joke that I tried to make on the pod
and like the problem with the pod. I mean, I
love pod, don't get me wrong. It's like it's not
really jokes. It's just like mounds of clay.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
A joke on stage is like a statue, you know,
you like molded it carved it.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Like you can't work out on the pod. Yeah, but
it's going to be.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
It's probably And like, so like what I always say
to people is like, first of all, if like I'm
making a joke, I'm like teasing you about something, right,
and you go to me, hey, that kind.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Of makes me feel ucomfortable.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I'm never gonna tease you again because I don't want
you to be uncomfortable about that thing.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Tell the man you're comfortable.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
You here, that's not that's not.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
What period, that's her real hair.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
Scout baby, Oh my god, that's beautiful period at over there?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, what are you looking at over there?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Looking at nothing got you?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
But so so what I'm saying is like I would
never like if I if I have a joke where
I'm just like teasing you forever and you're like, hey,
that actually makes me feel comfortable. Like, my goal is
not to make you feel comfortable, So I'll never tease
you about that.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Again.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
That doesn't mean I won't tease other people about that,
but to you specifically, I want so if there's somebody
at a comedy show and she like they're upset about something,
here's a perfect example. Girl at a comedy show. I
was saying some joke about some topic. I forget exactly
what is. She gets up and starts to walk out right.
This is a little comedy club, and I'm like, I'm like,
where are you going? And she's like, I just uh
just got to step out. I go why, and she's like,
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I just I don't want to I don't want to
make it about me. I go, man, what's the deal.
She says, Oh, it's just like the topic. And some
of the people in the audience start to like boo
her for being like like offended or whatever, and I go, yo.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
No, don't boo her.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
She's doing what we all wish an audience member would do.
She's going, hey, I feel uncomfortable. I don't want to
affect everybody else's time here. I don't want to make
this show about me. I'm just gonna step out and
I'm like, wow, Like, you're just like the most emotionally
intelligent person in the room right there. I don't ever
want to make her feel uncomfortable. So one on one,
I'm not going to do that. But I'm not gonna
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stop joking around about a whole idea just because it
makes one person uncomfortable.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
I used to watch go to Paul Mooney shows. Oh
my god, people would walk out of.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Paul Mooney shows all the time. And it was always
white people. Yeah, they would always lead.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
They was offended, like I'm leaving, and they wouldn't make
no noise about it. They would just get up and leave,
and Paul would be like, oh, why are you leaving? Nah,
it's not for me.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, I mean that's the perfect thing.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
If it's not for you, it's not for you, be
out exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
But there might be someone who finds it funny.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
So that's the trigger thing where it's like one individual
shouldn't decide what everybody finds funny. But in terms of
the thing you were talking about, like, yeah, if black
women are upset at that thing that said, yeah, you're
totally allowed to be upset. There's this rule that, like
a lot of comics say, like people aren't allowed to
be offended.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
You're allowed to feel however you want to feel, especially
if you don't know me.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Like, if you know me, you know my attentions, You're like,
you know, I'm just trying to bust balls and like
make a fucking stupid joke, and maybe the joke wasn't
that funny, but like, my intentions are always good.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
If you don't know me, you just see it, You're like, oh,
what fuck is this asshole? So I'm not even upset
at your response.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
Like that was my first take, And then we talked
about it in the room, like me and Charlotte, because
my first sake was like, well, who is he to
even like you're welcome, things were welcoming you here be
a guest.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
But well it's my thought.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
But yeah, I mean, but just in our world of
like black women and what we deal with as fre
as tropes. But I will say, after watching a special
and after you know, having conversations with Charla, I'm like,
I mean a joke is a joke as a joke. Like, granted,
some people are still gonna be upset. They probably be
upset that I just said that, But it depends on
the person and you can't win. You got to figure
out where you wo line you going to trade.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
I also think those those two dudes from the thing,
like they're in a tricky situation because like they I
think they had said that they didn't find women Atlanta attractive,
and I think a lot of black women in Atlanta
were like, oh shit, are you trying to say you
don't like black women?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Right?
Speaker 7 (37:10):
They don't get me started on them.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
They came out and apologized down, Okay, they gave like
five renditions of an apology, and they can still stay
where they're at.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
And I think, but I think people see.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
The bullshit like you know some sellouts when you see them,
So it's not like it's it's so they're trying to
like position it. They try to put it on me,
and some people fell for the bait, like Ryan Clark
felt for the bait and like made a whole like
cloud moment out of it when he didn't even realize,
Like the thing you should be addressing is the two
clowns that are basically saying black women are ugly.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
And then laughing at the joke on the other podcast.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
So it's like, that's the issue, not the comedian making
a joke about the hypothetical situation.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
Well, we can move on after this.
Speaker 8 (37:48):
I will argue that all of you guys were a
part of the problem in that moment, but I think
again it's to each his own. I didn't like though,
that they threw it one way and didn't take accountability
for the fact that, like, y'all were actively engaged and
it's fine if you wanted to do that.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
On oh, they were like.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
We should have, we should We were uncomfortable. We just
didn't want to say anything in the moment. We were just
trying to get through. And it's like, y'all want y'all
were not victims, y'all. Y'all were actively engaged.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
Just shut up.
Speaker 8 (38:12):
Y'all were actively engaged. Y'all were having a good time.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
The not uncomfortable. The only time they're uncomfortable is around
beautiful black women.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Obviously. Damn. That is a good question.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
How have podcasting changed the way you approach I guess
comedy and after you know, these couple of recent situations.
The situation I needs, the situation I saw, but how
it approached, how you discussed things now, you know, your.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Cares like an interesting one. Like I guess I could
deal with people not liking me because these.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Things a lot of times are momentarily like that. They'll
they'll not like you for a few weeks and they
think they won't like you then to move on to
somebody else that they don't like, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
So that's not really like the big, big issue, you know,
it's just a It is one of those things where
I go, like, all right, if I'm if I'm shooting
and it's on something like if it's on something really wild,
I want to make sure that I could ideally that
shot is is amazing, you know, but I'm gonna fail,
Like you don't make funny jokes every single time, and
(39:18):
I and I like shooting.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
That means I'm gonna shoot and miss a lot, you know.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
But I just got to basically understand that, Like they
are gonna be people that don't know me, and however.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
They interpret me. I can't control that.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Like there are people that think I'm like some right
wing maga lunatic and I I literally as much as
I would want them to be, Like, Bro, you've never
had a conversation with me, Like you don't know anything
about my.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Life like you people exactly.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
So it's like you can't control how people how people
feel about you, and you just have to continue, at
least in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Just put out good art.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
And when I have the opportunity to put out like
a good piece of art, like hopefully The Special does that,
Like hopefully you see the mo distilled version. We were
talking about this yesterday, Like you know, when he puts
out a book, it's the most distilled version of his
thoughts and there's less fat for you.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
To interpret in a shitty way.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
When I'm on a pod just shooting ship, there's tons
of fat for you to interpret. When you see The Special,
I feel like you get a really distilled version of
like how I think and how I feel. If you
get offended by something in The Special, I could really
live with that because I've worked hard to make it
pierce through, even like the sharpest armor for the most
(40:31):
protective armor.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
Now do get that. I do also want to ask
do you still want to make love to Kendrick?
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Lamar.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I mean, like, honestly, it's hard to say.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
No to that.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
You find him a jacke?
Speaker 8 (40:42):
Yeah, man, did you see him in the clean jean?
Speaker 5 (40:46):
When I saw those jeans, I was like, boom boom,
bom boot.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
That was a joke.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
That shit raises him so fast. I'm just saying, he's little,
like I hate having to explain jokes.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
He's adye baty, So why is he telling he's gonna
kill my telling people to kill my friends.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
The biggest thing about.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
This whole shit that nobody I didn't.
Speaker 5 (41:13):
Even cared that he said this shit about like me.
Not saying jokes like that to me is like a
million people who said not say jokes. The next line
where he goes into the m words that Koon and
the Edwards being groomed, slide on both of them.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
What a slide mean to y'all?
Speaker 7 (41:27):
Take you out? But that's because I'm hold on.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
I ain't no explaining him. If you say kill my friends,
everything after that is fine. You took it there.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
If you say kill.
Speaker 5 (41:37):
My friends, because a lot of people thought that was
Charlemagne and Alex Media. So if you go the next
line you tell your fans to kill my friends, you
getting made.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Love to listen.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
I appreciate my friend trying to stick up for me,
but I don't think he was talking about I don't think.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
But how am I supposed to know?
Speaker 1 (41:56):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Like I didn't say anything for weeks. That was the
other thing, Like people ran with these different narratives. They
tried to act like after what I said, I was
worried about like getting death threats and shit. It's like no,
I was getting at the second they said it for
two weeks sensation shit, I filed my special I don't
really give a fuck. And then after that I was like, Yo,
we're gonna have some fun with this. But I don't
like this idea that like I'm this big bully. It's
(42:19):
like you told your people to kill my friends after
you say that, or that's the potential interpretation if somebody
said in a rap song to kill your friends.
Speaker 8 (42:32):
But do you understand though that that that was in
response to him feeling like you came at what he
would deem his friends or his people or people he's
trying to protect, talking about.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
They make fun of my friends.
Speaker 8 (42:41):
But if you in the street, if you outside, you outside,
you can't choose whether you out or in. It's like
you out or you in.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Okay, So then if he wants to play by those rules,
then don't be surprised at the response.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
That's what I'm saying. It feels like he's inside and outside.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Plus it's a weird matchup, right, because you got a rapper,
right who's a Prolympic rapper, and then you got a
comedian who's to say anything for the joke. So it's
not even just like what are we doing here?
Speaker 8 (43:04):
I think it's because it's platform and it's like people
listen to you and your voice and your podcast. That's
why that that's why that stuff went so viral, because
you got the numbers and then he has it too.
Speaker 7 (43:12):
So at the moment he's like, Okay, you know you.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Want to talk about Gary Owens.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
That's that's a good point.
Speaker 8 (43:16):
Nobody we don't know I'm not about I know exactly
what he was talking about because I heard, and I
knew exactly what.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
I didn't think it was. I didn't think it was me.
I was like, why are we talking about me?
Speaker 7 (43:33):
Because of the ships and giggles and all the last.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, maybe he was talking about math.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
He got to be kept saying he was talking about me,
and I was like, wait, if he's talking about me,
and is he telling people to kill my friends?
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Well, I got to do something about that.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
I got to do something.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
I gotta do something, Like I'm not a tough guy,
you know, I'm a certified lover boy.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
But you're always going to be perceived as the bully
because you're a white man.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I just thought that, right, like me, I thought you
mean that right? No, No, what you mean?
Speaker 6 (44:07):
No?
Speaker 5 (44:07):
Like, am I am I bully? Like I just thought
it was like you a bully. The size differential, that's
what I thought. No, it's a it's a you think
there's a racial dynamic. Duh, Yeah, I guess I didn't know.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
Yeah, of course. And it's the it's the privileged conversation.
It's like what you can get on the plat, like
the ships and giggles. Guys, they hadn'tize sixty times.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
You know, you said something is not as interesting. You said,
it's the privileged conversation. You know, we all can say
whatever it is we want to say. You just got
to be able to deal with the consequences.
Speaker 8 (44:35):
White most people can't exactly and most people don't have
the platform, and they're not they're not teflon down like you.
They don't have fifteen years of the game. They not
picked up by Fox News and seeing it and shaved
room like.
Speaker 7 (44:46):
You other other people. Right list is a political.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
You know that you just want to hear just he's
got a guy with glasses and a bow tie. Listen
his podcast Way for Charlotte made to say one bad
thing about the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
If we don't even think about stuff like that.
Speaker 8 (45:08):
But but it's the truth though, because you have a
platform that a lot of other people don't have. Kendrick
Lamar has a platform. So he's like, all right, bet
you're gonna get outside. You're gonna laugh, jokey, I'm outside
for my woman front of the Black Woman.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
It's lucid Kendrick.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
Because Kendrick does what he wants to do and he
gets rewarded for like you can do that.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
This whole thing got blown out of purport. Like honestly,
I think he's like obviously a prolific rapper.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
He's you know, he's it's.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
Not my the thing that I listened to all the time.
But like to say, he's not like fantastic at what
he does is ridiculous, And I have a lot of
respect for anybody that puts something out for judgment.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
I think there are a lot of people who, like,
they just.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Make reaction content, right, so they don't really know what
it's like to like create a piece of art and
put it out there in the world and let the
world judge it.
Speaker 7 (45:50):
You have to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
That takes balls, and I admire people that have balls.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Trump's trades, executive orders, what he do.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
He got rid of trance, he got rid of trans
what women, They're not around anymore. But that is that
is Yeah, that is how it is.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Isn't that how it is?
Speaker 7 (46:13):
Every day shine but the sun still come up.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
I think there are trans people, No, there are, But yeah,
just recognize him.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, but that he's allowed to, like, you can't force
me to recognize.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
He's allowed to not believe. But that don't mean that
it's not true.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
I was watching squid Game. If they didn't have the numbers,
I don't know if I'm recognizing what you know what
I mean, If.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
They didn't number them, I don't know if I'm recognizing everyone.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
I don't know I don't really.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Now listen, let me apologize before an Asian rapper comes
from me.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Jim, I'm sorry, hits me up.
Speaker 7 (46:58):
Get what you mean by the numbers?
Speaker 9 (46:59):
And oh god, no ever watch comedy, to watch watch comedy,
let her watch comedy.
Speaker 8 (47:11):
I wait, back to your special Yes, I was thinking,
and I know you and your wife have been together
for some years, so it's like a hypothetical question for
or more of an ego question. At any point when
that was happening and you found out that it was
your fault because of you know, just your pride and
your ego being hurt, did y'all feel like, man, like,
what if she leaves me because I can't make this happen?
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah, there's a part of you that goes through that.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
You're just like, will she not find me like as
masculine or not find me attractive? Like will something primarily
happen inside her where like she'll reject me because I
can't do the thing we're.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Put here to do.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
So you, yeah, you immediately go through that, and then
like that insecurity takes over and then you're like more
sensitive about certain things if she's not being sweet one
day You're.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Like, is that it?
Speaker 1 (47:52):
You know? Did she stop?
Speaker 5 (47:53):
So this ship tears apart relationships. That's why I tell people, like,
if you find out there's a problem, do I feel yeah,
IVF immediately instead of like going through the emotional turmoil
that could break you guys up. But but no, She's like,
I mean this is like a little thing in the
special nobody would really understand or even probably catch. But
(48:13):
like the first joke I make in the special is
about this you know about about guys who say we're
pregnant and I was insulting to women.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
And then I say, yes like my wife when my
wife says that we made a lot of money. Right.
The last piece to.
Speaker 5 (48:29):
The special is when my wife is is saying, uh,
you know when when she thought that she lost the baby,
and I'm apologizing. I'm like, I'm so sorry that this
is my fault and you got to bear the burden,
and she goes, you don't have problems. We have problems,
we'll do it together. So it's this idea that like
(48:50):
in this in the beginning, I'm having this really selfish
thought of like I make the money in the house.
And then when she's dealing with the toughest things she's
ever dealt with in her life. She's that's my fault.
She's still taking on some of it because we're together.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
So it's yeah, you find out who people are in
these tough situations. I got a good one. I got
a good one.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
What is your conversations like with fifty?
Speaker 1 (49:14):
I know, I know fifties. Fifty is the goat.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
I know he's he loves you as a comedian, and
I know you pull up for him.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
He pulls up for you. What what's your conversation with
him when all this is going on?
Speaker 5 (49:25):
Yo, I just yeah, he did I hit him up
or hit me up? Or we're trying to get him
on the pod and he's like, yeah, I'm pulling up.
But like he's the type of person that like he is, Like,
how do I explain it? It's like, you know how
like in wrestling, whether the people are booing or cheering,
like as long as they're making.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
A sound, he's not afraid of anything.
Speaker 5 (49:46):
There are people that are probably like scared to do
like credit Charlomagne too, Like Charlotte could have easily been like, hey,
the heat is on you and they're gonna be upset
at me doing a pot with you every single week,
and he know, let's take a few weeks off.
Speaker 6 (49:57):
But he's been there before, so he understands that's not
rock with my friends.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Stands by me.
Speaker 5 (50:04):
Always always, but that's just this is actually, this is
real ones. So he's the type of person also who
like he doesn't care what the trend is. So many
people are like motivated and moved by the trend, and
he's the type of person he don't give a fuck
what the trend is. And so if if there's like
negative energy, you know, give a fuck there's positive, he
don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
He moves to the beatings his own drum.
Speaker 5 (50:25):
But I remember Charlotte Mane had a dope thing to
me when when I was going through that last one
and there was like people, there's even people in my
community like comedians like saying some certain things about me,
and Charlott Mane was like, Yo, this is actually good.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
You're going through this right now.
Speaker 5 (50:38):
I go, why he goes, because you're about to hit
another level when the special comes out.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
And you got to pay close attention to who's hating now?
I go, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (50:46):
He goes?
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Uh, Because whoever's hating now has been hating the whole time. Absolutely,
But they didn't feel comfortable coming out. They were waiting
for you to look wounded.
Speaker 5 (50:54):
It's like laws of the jungle, you know what I mean,
Like the lion only attacks like the baby gazelle, you know.
And uh and like I took note, bro, I got yeah,
I got notes and I can't wait for them to feel.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
The life is out.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
Right now, right now.
Speaker 7 (51:14):
It's number two. What it is? Number two, number number
It was still but they said that.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Show was good, which what I heard it was really I.
Speaker 8 (51:23):
Didn't watch it because I didn't want to mess numbers up.
I said, I was gonna wait.
Speaker 5 (51:26):
You, but no, I heard running point. Running point is
like it's a global sensation, you know what I mean?
It's uh and that that's a Kate Hudson and chet
Hanks and salutes to them, like shout out to chet Man.
That motherfucker is so funny. And but yeah, we still
gotta knock them out.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
But yeah, it was cool. We beat U Bobby de
Niro show.
Speaker 5 (51:43):
Oh yeah, Black, this has got to be your algorithm.
Tyler Perry's Beauty and Black came back out.
Speaker 7 (51:54):
It's number two. Now he's number three.
Speaker 6 (51:56):
No, no, no, you might be looking at the top ten.
You got look at what I was looking at what
I was talking about you guys, that was.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Trending, right, No, top ten works too. Okay, we're a
big weekend. You're happy.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
I'm out there watching this week and I'm gonna check
it out this week and me and the wife gonna
relax and watch this.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
It's the only way to watch it.
Speaker 6 (52:12):
By the way, if you got a wife, you and
your significant other got to watch it together.
Speaker 5 (52:16):
The fact that you guys went through it, I'm really
curious your your perspective.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
But that's why we talk That's what we talked about.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
That's why we make it our business to talk about
it in the book, and we pot about it all
the time because so.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
Many people came up to and was like, yeah, we
were dealing with the same thing.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
We felt like failures and men came up to me
on the side it was like, I thought it was
just me.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
I don't know how to console my wife.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
But I mean, once you get through that other side,
you realize it makes you look at your child a
whole lot different. It just is like because it's the
most precious thing in the world. And if you're able
to have a child, you know you you hold that
really really close to your heart.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
Yeah, man, but thank you.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah, absolutely, And that's awesome you put in your book.
Speaker 5 (52:49):
I hope we destigmatize it, like, I don't want people
to feel ashamed of wanting to have a kid.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
And you should have that ship by any means necessary.
Speaker 5 (52:55):
Like I feel like that's the thing missing in the
masculinity conversations. All these fucking guys out there saying what
it is to be a man. None of them got kids.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
You know. You know what the thing is is your
feminist arc. This is gonna be your feminist or.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Been a feminist.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Broll.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
I'm a proud girl, dad. That's right.
Speaker 6 (53:08):
I told you having a girl's gonna change your baby.
Speaker 7 (53:10):
Girl.
Speaker 5 (53:10):
She's thirteen months. Thirteen months. Yeah, I've been trying to
get you on a feminist ship.
Speaker 7 (53:14):
For a while.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
I've been a feminist.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
I know, ever since you got depressed or whatever you got,
ever since.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Since you got anxiety.
Speaker 6 (53:24):
Christ But I'm gonna be honest with you. They've gone
too far just having this conversation more, they've gone too far.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
I'm on my feministart. You're your mask on this art.
You're back.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
You got to bring him back. It's the little.
Speaker 8 (53:39):
You got too scared of what being a girl?
Speaker 7 (53:43):
Dad?
Speaker 5 (53:43):
Oh yeah, it's every day is terrifying. But it's also
just like the most beautiful rewarding thing ever. Like she
just walks in the room, she's so excited, gives me
like the big hug, and you're just like, this is
nothing else is important even in life.
Speaker 4 (53:55):
All Right, Well, listen Andrews shows Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
It don't be a stranger just because a little short
five ft two miguite over.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Yeah, I mean, do you do a podcast where you
can still come up here?
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Okay, okay, okay, I'll come on.
Speaker 5 (54:04):
You want to thank you guys for always man, this
is this is legendary Andrew shoutz.
Speaker 4 (54:09):
It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up
in the morning.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
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