Best Of Full Interview: Dr. Cheyenne Bryant On Alpha Relationships, "High Value" Men, New Show + More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in dej n V jess hilarious,
Charlamagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club. Laura Rosa
is here as well. We got a special guest.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
In the building.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We have doctor Cheyenne Bryant.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome club man.

Speaker 4 (00:18):
You are one of the people in the mental health space.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Who are you?

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Who's using who's really using social media?

Speaker 5 (00:22):
Right right?

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Like you know, because you've used it to you know,
elevate your platform and just elevate the conversation around mental health.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
So I aplaud you on.

Speaker 5 (00:29):
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah. I always say I didn't get into this field
to become a celebrity. But God has his own plans, right,
So I literally and my master's and my doctor program.
I remember my professor was saying, everyone who's gonna get license,
raise your hand. I didn't raise my hand. Everybody else did.
And he's like, Doc, you're going you know with shying
at that time, you're going through all this, not get license.
I'm like, no, because I'm gonna be on a platform
where I'm able to change lives. Didn't think that it

(00:53):
ended up being a platform where to this magnitude one
and then to the place where literally I didn't want it,
the whole celebrity status and lifestyle. And not that I'm
saying I don't want it now and I don't like it,
It's just this is not where I expected it to go.
But again, if God needs to use a celebritiness and
I said it at your Mental health and Mental Health Expo,

(01:14):
you know, whether the celebrity status brings me, the naysayers
or the sayers, whatever it brings. As long as they
can get a tip R two that gives them a
better quality of life and helps them become better mentally,
then run the play.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
I'm cool with it.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
How does that impact though, Like you do work in
mental health, but there's a lot of like the naysayers
are so loud, How does that impact you mental health wise?
And like, what's your work through because it's there, especially
with that when the Kim interview came out, they.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Were people were upset about it.

Speaker 6 (01:42):
Some people agree, but you know, how do you, as
a person in that space deal with all of that pushback.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
This is the thing, Sis, I grew up a little
girl in the inner city, in the hood. I grew
up to two teenage parents. My mom was addicted to
the drug that my father sold. I'm a product of
a street dude, a straight gangster who turned into being
a good family man, and my mom is now.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
Sober for the record.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
And so I say all that to say that when
you grow up in a certain type of adversity, loud noise,
that's against the grain of what you're doing. It's not
loud noise, you know, it's a norm. And that's why
you know, the Bible says it's good for me that
I was afflicted, because when you have those afflictions, they
are preparing you for a time like this that you

(02:25):
have to stand in a leadership role. And leadership comes
with pressure, it comes with commitment, it comes with character.
And so when you have naysayers who are applying pressure,
then that's when you show if you a piet for
your diamond. But I already knew from the trenches that
I was a diamond, So I wasn't worried about coming
into this space with somebody having a problem with what
I'm doing. And I'm in my intent, I'm in my purpose,

(02:46):
and I'm vertical on who I am.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
It don't matter to me because I'm running my own place.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
So I'm not sitting up there as a quarterback being
Brady waiting for a moss.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Have to put somebody out there. We're gonna win.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Put someone out there. That's just what it is, you know.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
So when you're vertical and who you are, you're not
really worried about what is going to show up to
catch the catch. You know you your job is to throw,
and then the receiver job is to do what to catch.
And so the quarterback don't throw and go just catch
you better do it?

Speaker 5 (03:21):
Just hands up. The quarterback throws and he like, all right,
I know I did it.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Tand up the slant over and that's it. And it's
a celebration if you're in there. If not, we run
the play back again until we do it. And that's
just what That's what life's about.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Now, you talked about your calling, So when it came
when it comes to your calling, what is your calling?
What do you specialize in? Is it relationships? Is it
dealing with people's problems? Is it just listening? What is
your specialty when it comes to and what's your calling?

Speaker 5 (03:44):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
So I started off as a marriage, and marriage I
mean child therapist, and I tell God, I said, listen,
I'm a little girl from the hood.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
You know what I come from.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Don't put me in the hood, and don't put me
with with you know, court order DCF kids.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Not that I had a problem with him. I didn't
want to.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Be triggered dealing with them and I didn't want to
have to deal with what I came from. I wasn't
in the system, but I came from that type of adversity.
And the first place God put me was off of
Hotdale and slots and I don't know if you're familiar
with LA, but a block away from sloss and swap.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Me in the hood.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
And every one of my clients were court ordered DCFS
Department of Family and Child Services. We have moms in
there who were pregnant, still still hitting the pipe asking
me can I sign off on the documents so they
can get the kids back, because I was predicated on
their unification with their kids, and so started off as

(04:36):
doing that. When I got my doctor, I transitioned to
a psychology expert life coach so that my hands wouldn't
be tied behind my back because when I was a
therapist working for a nonprofit under a license, the protocol,
just with the BBS law, and you're very familiar with
mental health and therapy, there's so many things that you
cannot do based on ethics and law that, in my opinion,

(04:59):
it the gates and it really takes away from the
real therapeutic experience. So, for example, I had a young
lady come in and she had experienced sexual abuse. Her
mother was allowing men to pay her to have sex
with her daughter at thirteen, from age all the way
from age eight to sixteen. The last time the guy
came in, he put her on the burners and the

(05:21):
stove burners and had his way with her. For that
young lady, thank god, that was the last straw for her.
So she ends up in my office and we're talking
and she's telling me her story and I'm starting to
become triggered because it's trigger and my sexual abuse passed
and so long story short, after one of our sessions,

(05:41):
I get up and she's in tears and she's telling
her story and I go to hug her and she's like, no, no, no,
you know, don't touch me because that's not something that
she's in a place to handle at that time.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
No problem.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Eight months go by, she's like she has to then
be transferred out. She's like, all right, you know I
wasn't doctor Brian that I was Chyenne. She's like, miss Chyenne,
thank you for everything. I'm like okay, and she goes, oh,
by the way, I'm ready for that. Hug everything in me,
everything in me. Dj MVY was just like everything was
just like yeah. And so not only did I hug her,

(06:11):
but I think I broke through the BBS laws because
I hugged that poor baby.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
I kissed all over her. But you're not supposed to
do that.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
You're still human, but you're still human. And so my
specialty then was marriage, FAMI and child therapy.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
So that is my foundation.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
So now that I am a psychology extper life coach,
I can't get rid of that because that's my foundation.
I do psyched on MCBT, but I couple it, which
is my hybrid approach, with coaching. So it's therapy and coaching,
which is hybrid. And I say this without humility. That's
why I'm so effective because therapy is tell me more.
Let me hear about your trauma, your daddy issues to
mom issues.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Why are you who you are.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
And then once you're finished dealing with that and you
process that. Okay, DJ MVY, what the hell you going
from there?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I do have one of the questions when it comes
to the therapy aspect. I'm sure the world has been
watching them and this brothers, right, And I had a question, right,
So the a Menda's brothers, if you don't know, they
confess their crime to the therapist, and they believed that
the therapists could not tell police officers because it was
I guess, patient client privilege, but they did. So does

(07:16):
that mean anything that I tell a therapist or that
anybody tells a therapist can and can possibly be used
against them in the court of law one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
So a therapist is only under confidential oath unless you
are threatening to kill yourself and someone else. And it
can't just be a threat. It has to be you
actually have like an action plan to do so. Right.
You can't just come to me and say, hey, doc, look,
you know I want to kill myself. I will help
you process through that and hopefully talk you off the ledge.
But if you say I got a plan. At nine pm,

(07:44):
I'm leaving a house, I'm going to do X Y
and Z to my wife. Then I have a duty
to report. If I'm subpoenaed to court, I have to speak.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
On that now. If I did a crime and I'm
talking to you about the crime because it's eating me up,
You're not supposed to tell law enforcement if I already
killed somebody already did the crime already, even.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
If it's a murder, only unless that they're subpoena. That's it.
When it comes to subpoena in the court and the
justice system, their law oversees everything.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
It just does.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
When it comes to your confidentiality as client privilege, there's
nothing that I can say out even can you reach out.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
To the court and say, subpoena me, I need to
be subena.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Would never do that, just because I believe in following
the oath of and maybe I just love and respect
my clients too much. But if you came to me
and said something, I'm just not And I know this
is smaller than murder, but I've had married couples who
come separately and together and the husband is just lighting
it up in his individual sessions, like I'm cheating. I'm
intimate with this person and that person is family members,

(08:49):
is this, and I'm and I'm having to just make
sure I process my counter transfers because I'm sitting there
like damn, and I have her in one hour, her
in one in one hour.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
God.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Now, of course, if it was like my girlfriend, i'd
be likelfriend, because my best friend couldn't be that's that's
a conflidication. She could never come to me as as
a psychology expert in that. But I then I'd be
I'd be you know, ripping into.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
In talking to me from the human respective, because you
still you're still a real stuff like that when you
hear the guy come in one hour, he doing X,
Y and Z, and the woman coming to the next hour,
what is going through your mind about to do?

Speaker 5 (09:30):
Charla? And my clients are watching this, and.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
My client's gonna be like, that's what you really mean?
But you know in my mind, honestly what I try
to do, and and and and some of my clients
have followed this guidance. I have one client now, he's
he's married and the wife is attempted to divorce him,
and she's divorcing him because he cheated, but she doesn't
have any hard.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Facts on him. So I've all I've actually been.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Able to process with him whether you're gonna be with
this woman or not, if you want to be with
her or you want to be able to leave and
do better. At some point, you got to be able
to be real with yourself and real with her, and
you got to be transparent. When do you plan on
doing that? So he just literally this week or last week,
because this week he told me doc. I sat with
her and I told her that has been you know
a few times that I did jeep And.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
I said, how does she respond?

Speaker 1 (10:20):
He says, she said, now we can have a conversation
because now you're keeping it real. And when I had
her in session, I said, listen, triggered, triggered.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Right, yeah. I said, look, you have two options, said,
either you know, I can.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I can if you're willing to learn to love a dog,
we can start that process because you know, or we
could start the process of you leaving and starting over.
And she goes, what do you mean by a dog?
She said, but he didn't. We've been together for ten years.
He's never cheated. The first time, I said no, no, baby,
I said, he'd been quiet for ten years. He decided
to bark on your number ten Jesus.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
So you don't think so you don't think that he
could change in that marriage and not cheat anymore.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
First of all, nobody changed, including me. We shift, and
that changes our life. And when I say we shift,
we shift out of the things and behaviors that don't
serve us after we learn they're not working, and then
we have to learn to manage those. So I am
very firecrackery. When I was younger, I was very temperamental.
I was very you know who the fuck you're talking to?

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Real quick?

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I just because of my trauma, because of things, I
just had a very protective by all means necessary. I'm
an otus of seven, so I was you know, I've
light this place up. Is that still in me after all.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Of my healing? Hell? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Do I manage it? Absolutely? Managing it just means that
I'm high function I'm able to regulate my emotions right,
identify my emotions, don't get into my feelings because emotions
are healthy. Feelings cause problems, and I can just say, okay,
identify that I'm angry, I'm frustrated, So now let me
choose my response. Before I was low functioning, once I
felt it, I was triggered and everybody here was gonna

(11:55):
know and it was gonna.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
Be a problem.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
So does that still come up? Yeah, but do I
have self talk that says we're not doing that.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
So you don't think people can change.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
You just feel like they manage ourself. Well, we manage
our self up. So a man who's a womanizer, he
is always a womanizer. It's just how well can he
discipline or manage his womanizing appetite, his womanizing actions, his
womanizing desires? Can he imagine manage his environment? Can he

(12:25):
be in a room full of women and not womanized
and not cheat and not step out and not have
infidelity issues.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
We like what we like. We are who we are.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
So you would never date a man that cheated before
because you feel like he will always be a cheated
Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I think that's also circumstantial. So I do believe that
different relationships bring out different things in us. I was
also an extreme alpha in my first engagement. I had
two engagements called off, two weddings. My first relationship that
I was engaged to, I was extreme alpha. So even
if he tried to be alpha, I left no space.
It was like hell, no, by all means necessary, Because

(12:58):
I said so on, you can walk like I'm chasing
my career.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
I know my value.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I'm not fatherless. I got a daddy. He spoils me
good day.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
So even in that, do you feel like that he
wasn't man enough for you? Or like, what was that?
Do you think that's your fault?

Speaker 7 (13:12):
Do you look back and be like, ugh, I was
trying to be the man, not trying to be the man.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
But I actually I gave him because you just said
you gave no room for him to do it. So
do you regret that part of me?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
That's a duality. I think he chose a woman who
was alpha because it fed something in him that was beta.
I chose a man who was beta because my alpha
needed to be inflamed. But my second engagement, he was alpha.
That's why I say it's circumstantial. But not only was
he alpha, I was ready. I had these submissive fills
in me already, So by the time we got in

(13:43):
a relationship, I was a hybrid.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
By then I was alpha submissive, so I was cooking.
He was daddy. I was soft.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I was in my feminine and the blessing of that
is I got to experience both, and I learned that
I fell more in love with myself in my softness
then he probably did. Like I was doing ship where
I'm like, that's me, that's me right now, even in
the bedroom things that I was like, no, I'm not.

(14:12):
When I was in my office, absolutely not. I was like,
can we do that thing again? That thing I don't
look at y'll y'all married?

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Can we do that thing again? Like that thing I said,
you submit, but that.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
But also but right, but also plays a role.

Speaker 8 (14:27):
But in the position what you doing, I'm not gonna
from When you said that, I kept thinking of his story,
what it was telling me, the story about never mind
Gilly the King was telling me a story about something
else in kim Port the book, And how did he.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Right?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I just knew something you don't feel. That can change, though,
Like you know maturity, because you know a lot of
times because a lot of time sometimes you're immature and
you don't know right. And I think you can grow

(15:10):
out of things where you are mature, not just being
a womanizer or being insecure. Some of those things you
grow out of because you learn differently, and some of
the things that you follow is because of society teaches
you other than what you should be doing if you
Undertand I'm.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Saying so when I was a child, I thought as
a child. Now that I'm a man, I think is
a man right, That's what the Bible says. So do
I think that we can mature out of things? Just
what maturity takes work, It takes awareness and sense of self.
So how many of us are really getting that? If
we're in the same environments, the same relationships, are dating

(15:45):
different people with the same spirit, So the same spirit
is going to activate.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
The same things in you.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
You want different there has to be a different circumstance
of different activation. I went from a beta to an alpha,
and I was receptive to being with an alpha. Well,
that's why I was able to be activated in my
feminine I wouldn't choose a beta now, I'd want an
alpha man. But I also hold space for an alpha man.
You couldn't be with a woman who is high functioning

(16:11):
and be a womanizer. She ain't holding space for you.
You can pray on a low functioning woman because she
holds space too much space for a low functioning man
who wants to prey on her. But if you were
to say, you know what, I want to shift up
my ways, you would also have to shift and choose
a woman who won't tolerate that because she will hold

(16:31):
you accountable when you're in a space that don't work
for her. Sure, does that make sense? So you can't
be in the same environment.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
But let's say a man is insecure, and he's insecure
when he's sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, right because he doesn't know
the world, or a man follows the likeness of, for instance,
hip hop right because hip hop influenced so much of
us and a lot of us were grown from it.
You know, whether it was what we did, what we
spoke about, carrying guns, selling drugs, being a womanized, whatever
that may be.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Men can change, man can change.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
I feel like I feel like what you're saying is true,
but I feel like I would say shifts lead to Actually,
that's what.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I'm saying, so right, So I'm not saying, listen, we're
not Jesus, We're not turning water to wine. I've said
that on the Cam Newton episode and I stand by that.
So you're not gonna change, and you're not gonna switch
up and tomorrow be a six ' five chocolate man.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
You don't know what identify it.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
Listen, I'm self projected. That's what I'm trying.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
But can you shift? Shifts will change you your world.
You don't change, you shift. So what happens is that
insecure boy grows up to be a man who shifts
things in him and his environment changes, and so does
he feel his insecurity and flame way less?

Speaker 5 (17:41):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (17:42):
But whether there be moments where your little boy arises
in you because you're triggered, that's life. And when that happens,
if it's once a year or once every five years,
you have to have the effective tools to manage that
little boy or he will sabotage or he will go cheat.
And that's how you say he ain't cheated in ten years,
but he barked on your number ten. I agree with
that wholeheartedly.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
The way it was worded the first time, I was like,
I think men sang, but I get what you said totally.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, people can shift and that creates a change, but
we don't wake up and we're like, we're totally different.

Speaker 7 (18:11):
So the interview with Cam and also I saw that
you sat down with Nick.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
How did that?

Speaker 7 (18:16):
How did did the fire cracker and you be like,
I need to sit down with them. How did you
get them in the room? How did you do those
two interviews? Did they reach out to you or did
you reach out to them?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
So Nick reach out to me and said, Doc, what's up?
Like I want to work through somethings, but I want
to work through it on camera. And I said, okay,
no problem, but I'm going to penetrate. So we're not
doing it penetrate.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
So he liked penetration nicky because Nick always goes, Doc,
do you have to use that word.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
I'm like, yeah, I am.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I'm penetrating you at the space that obviously it's broken
and its function to.

Speaker 7 (19:07):
See men don't like twelve year old girl right now?

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Boy definitely present, definitely.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
So when he says all right, I need to work
through some things, You're like, okay, on camera? Does that
then in your mind say.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Is this for real?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
For real?

Speaker 7 (19:29):
Or do you want to appeal to a certain market,
you know, to a certain audience. You know what I'm saying,
because you know, we're in the in the times now
where everything has to be recorded or didn't happen or
you know, that's just how people look or how people feel,
But what does that make it a little phony to you? So,
because I couldn't find another world.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Other than but great observation, I didn't look at it
like that because I look at it like I have
a job to do and a purpose to serve. So
whether we have one camera or ten, you're gonna get
this work. And so they may have done it, and
I'm not saying they did. They may have done it
from an entertainment perspective, but as we see, more.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
Than entertainment came out of it.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Because your intention will always be what ends up being
the end result for you. And so my intent was
to use Nick's situation and shift a whole culture of
black men saying with Cam, and it happened. There were
a lot of naysayers, but a lot of black men
were actually in there creating the vironus and saying, listen,

(20:33):
Doc is right, we need to create more husbands and
less baby daddies. Black men were like, I'm twenty six,
I got three kids by three different women, and she's right,
this ain't it.

Speaker 8 (20:40):
Man.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
We got to do different.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
That was my intent, and my intent is what manifested
so and Nick as well. Cam was resistant, but Cam
had answered a lot of questions in his household. Cam
had a lot of stuff, He had a lot of
different conversations he had to have with that woman whether
she wants to come out on social media and where
the mask she's been wearing.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
That mask is off at home.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Cam had to answer questions that created a lot of conflict.
Conflict is needed for a resolve and for shift and change,
and so yeah, entertainment or not. I wanted to make
sure that what happened happened, that the conversation is now
being had everywhere that it is time for our community
to do things differently. And if you have already created
broken houses and homes, you're not doomed, but you need
to stop. It's a time to stop, like we're not

(21:24):
here to create broken houses. And now yourself, you're projecting
your daddy issues and mommy issues as a man onto
an entire generation that has to now grow up to
figure out what the hell is the root of their
issue and how do they not sabotage and how do
they do this thing differently?

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah, Cam said that you know it affected his relationship
with his first two baby moms and his current situation.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
You feel any more for that of No, yeah, because
I'm here to interrupt that pattern. No, yeah, like the
ship should have been interrupted a long time. A lot
of you know, Cam and you come from and not
that this breeds you know, good decision making people. But
Cam comes from he's a pastor's child. He comes from
two parents that are still married and they're still very

(22:07):
their pastors, very much involved with the church that goes
to show you, like the Bible said, it was good
for me that I was afflicted because you got people
who come from brokenness. This is why I said, these
kids are not doomed who make different decisions because it's
not about where a lot of times it's not where
you go, and they gets you where you're going, it's
where you trying to get the hell away from. And

(22:27):
a lot of times parents. Yeah, I was telling Rayja this.
Ray J is my client as well Jesus and I
was telling ray I said, ray I love your parents,
but they showed you everything to do right, they didn't
show you what not to do. And see, for me,
I had a circumstances an environment that showed me everything

(22:48):
not to do. So sometimes knowing what not to do
saves you from doing the wrong shit. It's not about
having a perfect household, It's about having a blended, balanced
household says listen, this is what you can do to
get you this, This is what you you shouldn't do.
And when you come from a lot of pastor kids
and these these folks who come in from these really

(23:09):
perfect households are perfect marriages that have a lot of infidelity,
a lot of brokenness in them, these folks, these kids
learn how to master life as well, and they learn
how to overcompensate for what they're missing in broken houses,
in womanizing or mannizing ways, and that becomes an issue,
and then they just becomes a dysfunctional pattern where they

(23:30):
keep creating this.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
They get comfortable and dysfunction and say I'm thriving here.
No you're not.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
You've learned to survive and you're teaching everybody else who
you are, you know, creating or pro creating how to survive.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
I was just going to ask, how do you deal
with your other clients if you have raj.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Who I do?

Speaker 5 (23:53):
Oh yeah I have that, I have wise counsel.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I have a nice group, a nice
really healthy ecosystem. People who are in you know, counselors
and coaches and who are not do I use them?

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Does this?

Speaker 6 (24:05):
Like so like with the cam situation, is in there
like a follow up conversation with him and like he
wants to work through more stuff now off camera because
like it. I'm sure it triggered a lot for him
as well too when those additional conversations had to happen,
Like is he gonna be like what happens after that?
We see it in really we see it on the
internet and it goes crazy. Yeah, the baby mom's a girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
All the fall out.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
There's been recent fallout too with him talking about her
jazz not being the only woman that he slept with
in a relationship, and so there's things coming out. Now
does he hit you up and say, hey, I want
to do some more work, I want to have a
conversation or he's like nah.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
He's he hasn't hit me up to say yes, but
he's definitely not like nah, okay, But I who I
would love to have a conversation with, whether it can,
whether it's on camera or off not, just to more
support her in whatever she's doing right now or feeling
or going through his jazz. Yeah, I would love to
have a conversation with Jazz, even if it's a private session.

(24:58):
I think that she needs tools on how to be
in this relationship if she's gonna stay, and if she
chooses to leave, she needs tools on how to also
pivot that. And it's not about having a conversation with
her or having a session with her to get her
to change her mind.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
It's about getting.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Her to feel supported and showing compassion and then trying
to figure out where she wants to navigate from here.
And see, that's the thing, because I don't know if
you saw months ago, or this may have been before
she was pregnant. I think I saw this she's happy
with or you know, with everything that's going on.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
You know how she's okay with that.

Speaker 7 (25:31):
So if she understands and she is willing and she's like, okay,
I'm all in, I'm abiding by every rule that you have,
then what the hell are you going to talk to
her about? You know what I'm saying, Like, how can
because even as a woman watching that, right, I didn't
know who she was with yet until it came out
and then I was like, oh damn, all right, so

(25:51):
that's how you feel about him? And that's my man's
and that's my girl. But I'm just like, damn, how
strong the strongest back.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
That I've ever her.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
I give my head off to her for dealing with
that whole dynamic, But what can you say to her
that'll change? I think it's helping her come to herself.
And I think that I think that Jazz got herself

(26:21):
into something that one she didn't understand that she was
getting herself into.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
And I think she would love to back paddle if
she could. But where do you go from here?

Speaker 5 (26:30):
You have a child?

Speaker 1 (26:31):
A lot of women, especially Black women, stay because they
don't want to be a product of a broken house
and they don't want to be a single mom who
wants to be a statistic who wants to be that right.
And so for her, I understand why she would want
to stay to make it work. But I also would
understand why she wants to leave to do it right.

(26:53):
And it's not because he has kids. It's because this
man is not honoring you. He's disrespecting you. And he's
not only doing it privately, he's doing it publicly. He's
not even allowing it to be pillow talk, you know.
So it's like and That's what I mean by the
epitome of a high valued man in the most low
functioning functionality you can have, Like you have no respect

(27:15):
at all for this woman who you not only have
a child with, but you are in a relationship with.
You're waiting for God to give you more kids. You
have a woman at home, You're sleeping with other women
publicly on your platform for this woman to feel how
all you're doing is self projecting your brokenness and your
pain on this woman. In all of these eight kids

(27:36):
and these three other women, you are pro creating broken houses.
And let me go further, he also has a broken
home with her, Because a broken house and a broken
home are two different things, So you have both. A
broken house is just a single family home. It could
be one mama, one daddy, or for people who have partners,
it could be one partner.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
In the house.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
That means just there's one person. A broken home is
you got a two party households. The home is so
one pair they can't even function at a level of healthiness.
Cam has both, and he knows that, and he's trying
to figure out how he front backside pedals. But this
is the deal, you know, and I said this to
him jokingly and I wasn't pun attended, but it was

(28:15):
like I told him, I said, I said, Cam, before
we did. Then I say, Kim, you about to throw
picks this entire interview. It's like you did when you
was playing. Said you took him to a super Bowl,
but you couldn't get the ring, and he just looked
and he said no. But to backtrack real quick, Cam
reached out to me before the interview. I'm but but

(28:37):
did I did I catch the picks or not?

Speaker 3 (28:40):
From what I saw?

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Yeah, the pics right.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
And so, but my point is Cam reached out to
me because ego, he seen me and Nick Cannon's interview
and he said Nick was too soft.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Do my interview.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
It's not it's not going to be that same smoke.
And so I said, sign me up when I'll fly
out tomorrow. He said, oh, okay, like that, I said,
hundred percent, I'm ready. And so when it happened, I
think Cam's edge was to throw me off and to
see if he can challenge me, challenge me and more
dominate the conversation. My intent was to bring healing in awareness, and.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
He got that do you ever tell women to leave
when you're dealing when you're talking to women on men,
do you ever tell them to leave? Because I know
a lot of times therapists won't tell somebody to leave.
And if somebody is still in a relationship, whether it's
domestic violence, whether it's a woman or notes, or whether
it's something that's negative, do you feel like if a
woman stays, she's weak.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
I don't think she's weak. I think she has a
lot of underlining issues that need to be processed, and
I think she doesn't have awareness of what those are
and what that relationship is feeding are the underlining issues,
and she's staying because she needs those to be fed.
And if she leaves, what's fed? If she doesn't have

(29:52):
any awareness of her healthiness. See, what we know is
what feeds us. We all set up feeding stations and
we go and feed on things that we have awareness of,
which is a lot of times I trum my artists
function or our survival mechanism. And so I never tell
them to leave, but I do help them either say
this is what the work is going to take to stay,

(30:13):
and this is what it looks like for you to leave.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
What do you want to do?

Speaker 2 (30:17):
So you don't feel like if a man stays a
woman stays, they are weak, whether it's whatever their relationship.
You don't feel that way. You feel like people can
get through certain things, whether it's domestic violence, whether it's abuse,
whether it's cheating, whether it's whatever it may be.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
I think that people can get through it if they're
willing to reinvent. So marriage isn't something that always has
to be dissolved. Sometimes it can be recreated and reinvented
if two people are open to that. And I say
that because you know, I'm not married yet. I look
forward to being married and being a mother, but I'm
not divorcing my husband, and so it very well could
be where, you know, shoot the social media hopefully not

(30:55):
goes off on dog one day and says, hey, what
you was preaching?

Speaker 5 (30:58):
What's up? What you're doing now?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Fully not, but I'm saying that I'm not leaving my husband.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
What do you say?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
What do you say to people that say, you know,
how do you give advice on marriages and marriage couples
when you're not married? That was What do you say
to those people?

Speaker 1 (31:11):
I love that I say that I don't want to
hear you've been together fifteen years, been miserable thirteen. I
rather take advice from a single woman or man who's happy, thriving, successful,
meaning in their joy, not just in their monetary value,
then someone who is miserable in the marriage with a
side dude and a side check. And you want to
give me an advice that you give yourself, that you're
using your failed.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
Marriage pass better a pass a past.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
And what happens is married people like to shun on
single folks. The Bible also says single people are happy people.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Look that up.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
It says marriage discipline. No, it says marriage take discipline eause.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
A lot of times they say that you reach out
to older couples that's been married longer because they'll tell
you how to deal with the marriage than people, you know,
Like some people say you said, don't hang out with
your single friends. You talk to married couples that's been
in that situation.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
And you know why that's true because folks who have
been married ten in fifty twenty years, they've been through
the trenches.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
So they're not gonna teach you how to be happy.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
We got that single sis, we got that I've had
that all my life. They're gonna teach you how to
get through the times when you ain't happy. Y'all married,
you know that, let's not play this game. You marriage,
you know that you got of course, Mari, I think
marriage is beautiful, it's popping, It's where everybody wants to land.
Why would you not want a partnership and a companion
your go to? But that shit comes with work. The

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Bible says marriage is for disciplined people discipline.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
I'm single.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
I don't have to be disciplined. Even though I am,
I don't have to be in that space.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
You think people get married too early.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I think people choose the wrong people. I think people
choose their fairy to ideology. They're not choosing the person. See,
people are choosing marriage and not a husband. They're choosing
marriage and not a wife. And so when you're choosing marriage,
you get the title, you get the looks of it,
but you're not getting a person. So you're a beautiful
house who's homeless, like the idea of the idea did.

(33:00):
And those are people who are fatherless sometimes motherless, who
just need something to be a part of. I just
need this companionship. I want the title. I don't feel
value I don't for validated. So because we're married, I
got somebody who's checking from me.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
I got somebody who can get me through the day.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
But you got to be able to check even in marriage.
I was engaged for ten years, you know, because I
kept calling it off, calling it off.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
And he was like, you keep getting these degrees.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
You keep saying, wait for the next degree where you
get married, and my time I want to get my doctor.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
He's like, baby, you done got four degrees.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Engage.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
You know, I can't putting it off because I knew
that that wasn't my person.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
And I ended up leaving. I ended up leaving him,
you know, unfortunate for him.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Ten years.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
And she said he was a great guy, great guy.
He was a great guy. He just wasn't my guy, right,
And so.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
For ten years he thought he was the guy for
ten year while you let him go be great with
somebody else that would appreciate him and love him.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
About to jump. I love that question. I love the question.
So I'm I'm saying for ten years, I knew he
wasn't the one.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
When we got about year number five or six, and
I seen that his work ethic and his ability to
provide at the level that I wanted our family to
be at. I knew that he wasn't mine my guy.
And when I say provide, I'm not talking about like
he was making six figures and I was like, now
make millions.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
I'm saying. His thing was, baby, I'm cool with me.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
You a dog in a one bedjom apartment and just
no work ethic at all. So for the first six years,
I thought, while I'm out here getting it. I have
a legal company, you know, I own property. I'm only
twenty two. I'm getting all these college degrees. How can
he not be inspired by me? See that's that age
appropriate young woman. He got potential. Let me stay. That's
why people should take their time. But when I seen
your number seven and eight, this guy was the same

(34:44):
guy who was. You know, I hate talking because he's
such a good guy. I always protect him when I
talk about him. But where he was lazy and had
no work ethic, I had a pivot.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
I had a pivot.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
He did that you wanted because he worked right, but
he just didn't.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
He was that your ideas were different. At some point
he just decided to not work at all. He just
said he had a mixed ape. He started off in
pharmaceutical cells, a very educated young man, went to BYU
D One college, did his same, very much like the
boy next door, mixed kid, and you know, and so

(35:19):
it was all really good. Came from a really amazing family.
Parents still married. I think they're on like forty five years.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
You just want more. I wanted more.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
And if he would have said we can have more
and girl, I would have rolled with him. But when
he said I don't want anymore and I'm cool with this,
it goes to your question. Then I had to choose
what I was choosing. I was choosing a man. I
wasn't choosing marriage. I didn't grow up the little girl
that wanted marriage in this white pick of fence. I
wanted just to be honest. I wanted money and power

(35:50):
to change a trajectory of a community. I wanted a
platform to be able to shift people so they have
a better life, so they can take their pain like
I did and find some peace out of it and
make peace from the broken pieces. So I never grew
up thinking I just And I also had a father.
I had a daddy who doted on me. I'm a
product of a street dude. And if anyone knows a
street dude the way they love their daughters when they're involved,

(36:12):
your god, Your God is to them, your priendcess. I mean,
I didn't have man problems like that, and so I
didn't wasn't looking for a man outside to convalidate me.
So when I get in relationships, till to this day,
I'm still choosing the man.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Did he acquire more in the future, No, he's still
in the same place. So I made the right decision.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
What was the conversation that last conversation y'all had when
you decided to leave him?

Speaker 3 (36:33):
And how did he reacts?

Speaker 4 (36:35):
You can said, keep the dog.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
No, he was in tears and I wasn't tears. We
were sitting there crying, and he said, he said, I
knew it. I was a buffer for you. He said
I was a buffer for you. He said, I just
knew it. And he said, you're with me because you're
too insecure to be with who you really want to
be with, A type of guy, not a particular guy,
of the type of guy. I said, you're right, You're right,

(37:04):
And as years went on, that was some of the
best advice that I was able to acquire because I
was able to work.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
On myself and he was right.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Because the type of man that I now date with
that alpha and this, with that leadership, the space that
he needs so he can even be with me right
is a different type of space, a different type of woman.
So I had to shift, not change, shifts a lot
of things in me that had to do with insecurity,
because my mom being in her addiction creating abandonment in me.
I had attachment anxiety. And so when you're you know,

(37:35):
in order to have a man who's doing well, who's successful,
and he's in his alpha, the healthy alpha, that man
is moving and group and he's doing certain things, he
don't have time.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
For a woman with no damn attachment anxiety.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Meaning when he's making moves to better this household and
he's making moves to bear this family. I got to
be able to be solid and vertical in myself and
who I am to hold the house down. I can't
be insecure when he's traveling or doing things or he's
not right up under me.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
I had to work through that attachment anxiety.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
I got a couple of questions right, like one, I
want to know what is your definition of a high
value man. That's morn and then too, what you said
about attachment anxiety. Is it okay for the woman to
feel insecure if she knows this man ain't really out
here doing.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
That's called discernment, OK, call him out on that, and
I mean transparency.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (38:20):
I'm feeling some type of way. What's going on?

Speaker 5 (38:23):
What are you doing? I'm feeling this way.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
And I just think two respectful people who are choosing
each other and not just the relationship, are going to
have those conversations. And that's what those older couples who've
been married twenty thirty years.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Is teaching you.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
How you have those conversations. And Baby, when your man
tell you he out here turning corners, he's not really
turning bills, how do you stick through that? How do
you stay without losing your dignity? How do you still
be to submit to this man, cooking and cleaning and
having sex, making love to this man without being disgusted
at the fact that he's either stepped out emotionally, physically

(38:55):
or mentally.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
How do you keep that? How do you keep going?

Speaker 3 (38:57):
I was gonna act, that was gonna be That's what
the older folks say.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
They don't tell you to be happy and be They
telling you how to roll through and stick through some ship.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
That's what they're teaching you.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
Well, my grandfather was like, leave that bitch, yeah, because
he that's to be like back in the day that
he was still with you know, my grandmother. But he
just still was just like, man, like leave that bitch now,
because I would have left this bitch back in the day.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Grandpa, because I've been leaving.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
But now now I say, I'm in my choosing stage
and I'm really looking forward to staying. But it will
be my first time utilizing a lot of my new tools.
Not new meaning a year ago, but you knew because
I've been single six years of this attachment anxiety, I've
how to work through of what that looks like. So
there's gonna be things in me that are new that
inflame and trigger that. I'm going to have to have
a hell of a man who's mature enough, emostly intelligent

(39:47):
enough to sit through certain conversations with me that.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
Are going to be transparent.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
So what is a high value man because I heard
you reference cam is a high value man with a
low value I.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Guess just a low vibrational fund.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
So what is your definition of high value because to me,
it just sounds like high value to you is like
superficial stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
High value just means that you're, yeah, it's pretty much
like you're you're making a lot of money, you have
a lot of tangible things, your high value value, your
value is high, and your monetary value values high. Meaning
you know, you got a man who's making one hundred
million dollars, then he's high value in women who are superficial.
But I'm not knocking y'all say it's okay, are very

(40:25):
attracted to that, But again, are they choosing the man
or are they choosing the value?

Speaker 3 (40:29):
The value?

Speaker 4 (40:30):
But some people are so poor all they got is money.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
And social you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
And that goes to where this is going to be
a very very unpopular opinion or very popular, but it's
going to cause a lot of controversy. I always say,
if you realize the most prettiest, beautiful woman, many of
them men have put a baby in him, but the
ain't made a wife.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
Out of him.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
And I go to the high value men have put
babies in him, but the ain't made a wife out of him.
Because those women are choosing the value in them, and
those men are choosing the low functionality in her.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
So that's a match made in heaven for them.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Even though the fairy tale ends at some point and
everybody goes back to the drawing board and comes into
my session and says, because I can now least, I
can now might have some very very aless celebrity woman
who come in and say, I'm beautiful, I'm successful, I
can have any man I want. I'm lonely as hell,
and I'm afraid that I'm a die alone. But you
have a child, You've been married to this a list

(41:27):
big NBA player, and the relationship is now over, and
you feel like you're going to be alone because you
never learned to choose anything of substance.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
So you will hollow the whole time.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
So you're not afraid of being alone physically, you're afraid
of being alone emotionally because you've been alone this whole time,
So you don't even have a relationship with yourself. So
who you really don't want to be with is you?
So why should we call alone?

Speaker 5 (41:52):
Is about being with you?

Speaker 3 (41:53):
So why should we call those brothers high value?

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Then?

Speaker 5 (41:55):
Because value based on how I define it. It's just money.
Like I'm a high to a woman. Right, I have
a MultiMate home. I come from the hood. I went
from the hood to the hills.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
But I've accumulated a lot of value.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Right. I drive luxury cars. I have a certain lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
But I would be low functioning if I pray it
on men that I know I can use. If I
pray it on men that I know, I can say, eat,
sleep and put me and shut up while I go
run a monk, be in your beta. Because I said so,
that's low functioning of me. High value and high.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
Functioning would be.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Now, I want a man who can stand on he
got he's vertical because every human being is a hybrid.
We're all high functioning and low functioning. So there's gonna
be moments where I get in my low functioning. And
if I get in my low functioning and I start
to say things that are emasculating to you, I don't
want a low functioning man. I want you to say, baby,
I don't talk to you like that, and I don't
like when you talk to me like that. I'm not

(42:47):
gonna leave you, but we gotta work on this. Because
I'm not some nothing else, nigga. You know, and I
love you and I respect you, So let's work through this.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Well, if you got a high value man, he got
all the money, he might even be.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
An alpha with a big little and he trash in bed.
So then what's because you understand?

Speaker 8 (43:06):
Because you can't.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
You ain't gonna let him talk to you in your
kind of way.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Listen, you ain't gonna let him talk you in your
kind of way.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (43:16):
He can be the output.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
You ain't let him talk to you any kind of way.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
That mouth go crazy.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
If I had to choose between a little pito okay
in my Spanish speaking language, little little pets and a
family hell of a good man, take give me the
little dick and a good man. Because remember, I'm choosing
the man. I'm not choosing these these ornaments. And I
know and I'm this is the thing. Men don't understand this.

(43:44):
A woman just needs a big dick when you don't
know how to truly love and connect with you. Once
we love you and connect with you, we love, and
we when we love, we love, especially black women. When
we love, we love, we're figuring out how to work
with that little thing. You got to like we when
we love you, we love you and we figure out

(44:04):
how to make it do what to do?

Speaker 5 (44:06):
You got women who are with.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Men who got little penises and pay nobiles because she
love him.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
Now that's not DOC approved.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
But that's not DOC approved. But so for me, I
don't want I'm not manifesting God the little pizza type thing.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
But you know if it, yeah, and this is this
is probably gonna be tm I.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
But I always joke about with my best friend Lola,
and my assistant always say, girl, I'm not the woman
who needs a big old penis me either way a minute,
But I said, why do God always send me the men?

Speaker 5 (44:42):
See?

Speaker 3 (44:52):
That's right, and that got to be inclusive.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
But I want to I want to ask you about
some some internet rumors that I see. You know, Corey
hole Comes said some some things about you, about not
having your degree and where you started off all as
a I guess working in the strip club is any
of that stuff? So you're not a real doctor, he said, yeah,
you're not a real doctor.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
No. So I have four degrees, three are in psychology,
ones and Pan African studies. My doctor degree is in
counseling psychology my master's the marriage, I'm my child therapy.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
All degrees are in psychology.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Where this Corey Holcom thing comes from is we did.
I was on a show ten years ago when I actually,
I think it's before I even had my doctor degree.
And Corey is used to being able to be very
disrespectful to women and doing things. He was a guest
on the show.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
I was co hosted.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
He was a guest, and I drill disasked, be honest,
it's on YouTube, people, could you know look at it?
And I cut into him and I said, you seem
like you are inferior to white man, and you seem
like you got daddy issues, and you seem like you
got mommy issues, and you got kids that don't even
talk to you or respect you.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
They don't like you. It tell us a lot about
your character.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
This was ten years ago, okay, and obviously he's still
in his feminine because he's still holding a grudge over it.
You know, this is like interviews are interviews, so you're
saying you're doing and you move on to the next
And so was very upset and I felt like that
in that space he was y'all could watch it. He
was done found it like usually he comes back with
the you know, f you b or he has something

(46:18):
to say, or he's you know, he got a mouth.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
He was really just like, you know, a deer with headlights.
He was just like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
The interviewer, the person podcast was on, everybody else is
in there was like, We've never seen Corey be this quiet.
We've never seen anybody be able to respectfully check him
in this way. After we were done with the interview,
we went to take a big picture on the backsplash
and I would walk up toward him.

Speaker 5 (46:39):
You know my personality, I'm very playful. I walked up
and I'm like, let's take a picture. He wanted to
fill in the picture. Ten years later.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
I think he looked at it with his feil comedian
career because he's been attempting his career for about forty
five or so years, with the spale comedian career, his
failed marriage and I'm not saying this to be mean,
y'all can just research it his true and his spelle
parenting skills with his kids because none of those people
deal with him. Yeah, I think he looked at it
like there's I get to kill two birds of one Stone,
which was smart. I get to humiliate her back in

(47:07):
some kind of way, which it didn't work, and or
I get to ride on her back because she's going viral.
I don't have a career.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
I do. He doesn't have a career. So you guys
do a comedy career. He does stand up.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
Me just stays in fifty one fifty other big podcast
and he does stand up.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Well, what do you know yet?

Speaker 5 (47:22):
What? Thank you? We're back.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
She got a good career, but it knows we're back.
So the point is I think that he did. And
at this part, I'm not knocking in for he did
what any to meet career oriented business person was supposed
to do. I see an opportunity, let me take it,
let me create a narrative. But what happened was all
it did was bring more tentations to damned doctor Bryant.
So all people did was research me more, which is

(47:47):
what I wanted them to do. All people did was
find out for themselves. She is a real doctor. She
has these degrees. She's been doing this for a long time.
This woman started off from Teen Mom a Family Reunion,
which we were the biggest show on MTV. She not
only was the camera life Coach Doctor for that show.
She co produced it and developed the show. So what
happened was he brought attention to where people were able

(48:07):
to go in and do what I want them to do,
which was research more of me, get more background on me,
and say, hey, let me make my own opinion about her.
And again, you know, as my really good friend Shaquillo
and El says, which is one of my you know,
we've become pretty much like best friends. Now he's like Doc,
He's like, you know, he says as I hate when
he says it, but I love it. He goes, Doc,

(48:28):
trust from babies, don't give attention to the ones who
have nothing, he goes, So let the good and bad
attention do what it does for you.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Let it do what it does.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
And I'm not a trust from baby. But what Shaqa
is saying is when you hear and they hear, all
it does is magnify you. Right, the small dog has
to stain the small dog park. They're just not allowing
the big dog park. The big dogs can go to
the small dog park and we dominate either way.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Would you have a commisation to record now, like when
you going fifty on fifty or have the month truth talk.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
I would not only because.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Corey's and I'm only talking about this on here because
when I did Nick and other interviews and other other
places I've interviewed with who are also, you know, as big.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
As Breakfast Club?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Well, who's bigger than Breafast Club though, y'all? But I
also told them I said I'm not I'm not going
to address him period. I don't want to bring any
attention to him or give him the fume that he needs. Because, again, Charlotte,
I hear what you're saying. But he has a total
failed career, a total fled, total fail career as a comedian.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Is he funny?

Speaker 1 (49:33):
There's some things he says, yes, that are funny. Has
he made it to any place past a podcast of
a group of men who agree with just a rhetoric
that's just a very negative, distorted narrative of black people
in general, especially women. Kevin Samuels spent only two years
doing what Corey does and had a better career than Corey.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
Corey been doing it for forty fifty years.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
He was at improv in LA and can't even get
a job there, So that doesn't go to his comedic abilities.
That goes to his lack of character. Nobody wanting to
work with you. You have gifts and you have professionalism.
You got to have both to make it.

Speaker 7 (50:11):
Corey is just a broken person, period, and I do
feel like you'll need help.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
He needs help.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
Corey needs off camera.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
If Corey came to again and said, doc, let's do
off camera sessions, if he wants to do it on camera,
because it's just going to be a rhetoric, I'm not
doing that to help his career. I will help him
as a man, but I'm not here to help him
in his career. That's his job. I'm not here to
carry a man that ain't minds or float a man
that ain't mind, but to help you with your mental
health or help you as a person. He's an alcoholic.

(50:40):
He drinks a lot. You know he's he's over compensating.
Those areas, those are places he needs help with. Did
you guys see what he looked like.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
On Cam Newton interview.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
I'm not talking about looks many attractiveness. Do you see
how unwell hygienically clean he looks? Let me say what, No,
this ties into mental health.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
You know that she's an assassiny, but health right, you.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Run, you ran up Actually an amazing organized mental wealth experts.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
It will think I was so honored and privileged to
be that it was amazing. But I want to say
thank you that we know that keeping up your hygiene
is one of the number one symptoms to depression. The
number one way you're able to see that somebody's depressed
or in their addiction or over compensating and addictive behaviors
is how they keep themself up. That's how parents could

(51:32):
look at their kids and be like, you're not a bathing,
your hygiene is not up to par. What's going on?
That man's hygiene was on negative two hundred. What I'm
saying is he needs deeper help than me coming on
fifty one to fifty to bring him a bigger audience.
He can seal the fifty one fifty, but he needs
to be able to fifty one fifty himself and get

(51:52):
the help that he needs.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Lord doctor was talking.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
You were talking earlier about growing up in the wrong
and vine and you learn what not to do. And
I think that is difficult for a lot of parents,
right because, like I always say, my father raised me
out of fear and not love because he didn't want
me to make the same mistakes that he may growing
up in the same environment. Right, So what would you
say to you know, parents who are who are navigating that,

(52:18):
like who have kids? You know y'all are they're in
the same environment that you grew up in and you
want them to get out of it, but you weren't
even able to navigate.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
Through it yourself.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Yeah, I think that again, seeking wise counsel. I think
that therapy coaching should be a lifestyle. It shouldn't be
something that someone does for preventitive or intervention measures. And
I think that parents need to just be one hundred
and transparent with their kids. I think they need to say, listen,
this is my first time.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
Doing you, raising you, knowing you.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
I've I've never known a fifteen year old you, so
I don't know what to do here.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Let's sit down a dialogue. Can you use some of
your critical thinking skills? Do you have resources at your school?

Speaker 5 (52:59):
Help me? Let me help you. Let's do this.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
I think the transparency of it is what allows kids
to be vertical on who they are. I think that
handing them everything problems solving for them and doing everything
for them, especially men. It handicaps y'all. So when you
have to be the head, you now have a mother
who taught you how to be the neck, and then
you want to be mad at a woman who comes
in and she has to be in her alpha, because

(53:23):
who the hell is going to be the head to
this thing?

Speaker 5 (53:26):
So I think it's about transparency.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
And I think parents got to stop having this mommy
daddy guilt and stop feeling like they have to be
this perfect parent. I think your kids seeing your vulnerability
and your imperfections will actually aid them in ways more
than them seeing your perfection.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
You think kids are too soft.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
I think parents are too soft. Kids are too soft
these days.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah, the Bible says an undisciplined child is a unloved child.
I think kids are feeling unloved because they're not being disciplined.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
What is too soft for you?

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Now?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
And the reason I asked is, like Charlamage said, you know,
there were certain things. I mean, my kids can't do
it anyway, but it was certain things that you can
do and you couldn't do right. And I run the
household the same way, right. But if you look at
these kids now, a lot of them are a lot softer,
a lot weaker, cry faster. You hear depression, you hear

(54:14):
a lot of triggering words that I don't even think
that they know what they're saying. They just see it
because they see it on TV or they heard somebody
say it online. Yeah, but also people will say that
the reason that these kids like that because parents can't
par in anymore, because if they yell at their child,
if they pop a child, or if they do anything
that their parents did to them, accept abuse, they will be,
you know, told on to the school and CPS will be.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
At their door. So listen.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
My grandmother whooped my ass and I call the police
while I was down nine. She put one on one
and told them when they got there, I'll whooped her ass.
If you take me to y'all gonna come home and
I'm gonna beat her ass again. So whatever you're gonna do,
let's do it. And I would never take away her discipline.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
That's how I know she loves.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
You, know how.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
First of all, I'm not even a mama. I'm the
oldest of seven. I got about nah nieces and nephews.
Do you know how much energy it takes, well y'all
have kids to discipline a child, to watch them to
see when they're doing right or wrong. The love part
is the time it takes to even watch to see
what I'm doing to discipline me. So a lot of parents,

(55:21):
to me, this gentle parenting is just called lazy parenting.
That means I'm not in the mood to parent. I
got things I'm trying to do. I'm trying to figure
my life out, or I'm a single parent, I'm trying
to date, or I'm trying to get a sense of self,
so I don't even have time or energy to deal
with disciplining you. I think that's more of what it's about.
And Noah does not work. These kids have no guidance.
They're a very lost generation. I mean, I'm gonna go there.

(55:44):
You look at the campaign this year. You know, all
due respect to says Kamala, she threw a concert and
I like Meg and I like I love Glorilla. She
threw a concert with Meg and Glorilla, thinking that that
was going to move an influence our community to vote
for her. You think that we're that low functioning that

(56:05):
you cannot talk politics to us and legislation to us
for us to choose you based on leadership, that we're
gonna choose you based on who's dropping it like it's
hot or who's bringing in a concert.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
I agree with that.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
I said that, you know, I would rather just had
Megan up there talking about women's rights, to women's reproductor
the way card.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
Fantastic and Cardi's are.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
But Cardi been talking politics for YETI would come on
there with no wig care everywhere and all the she
fucked up, and then we'll run a whole bill that
she could just author and try to pull into legislation.
So what I'm saying is this, this camp.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
This whole election.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Showed you the level of where our kids are, and
I'm like, really, but it also showed you it didn't work.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
It didn't work.

Speaker 6 (56:53):
I saw you said too that you're comment on the
fact that Kamala didn't come out that first night when
she didn't win. You speak to that and speak to
the common because we were upset about.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
Oh yeah, another unpopular opinion. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
She proved why the people men and women who are
not ready for a woman president are not ready for
a woman president because society and some men, not all
deem women as emotionally unstable and unable to regulate our emotions,
since when you knew you weren't winning or weren't in

(57:27):
the lead. And these kids, these babies, these adults were
at a historical black university that you went to, Howard
waiting hours for you.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
They had volunteered.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
I'm sure they had to contributed, and they probably voted
for you and supported you.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
This entire time.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
You couldn't come out and address the people who supported you.
That's proven to the people who don't believe women could
lead at that level, that a woman can't regulate her
emotions enough to come out and take an ail. I
don't care if she would have come out in tears. Listen,
I'm sorry we lost, whatever that looks like.

Speaker 5 (57:59):
And this husband, listen, I'll give a little.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Pushback on that because Donald Trump never gave a concession speech,
nor would he even admit that he lost.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
And I'm not in support of Donald Trump, but Donald
Trump didn't need to come out because he never conceded.
He also stood ten toe down and said, y'all, which
I'm not saying, I agree with this.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Y'all rigged it.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
I won I'm not conceding. He still got the keys
to the White House.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
But he didn't come to his people, even when they
when that night, he never came out, and that was
what he lost to Jody. He never came out. That's
what I just said in Nam But she said, but
he didn't come out at all to speak to the people.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
I just said.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
But we're talking about Trump, who runs on being that
type of person. So his people never expected that. Just
like when someone says, well, Trump's a racist, he's running
on that.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
Trump is talking about.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Getting rid of the U I D E. I.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
He has said that.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Kamala came out and showed us all this love and
support after she said I can't do just something for
the black community. But on the day that I get
into office, I'm gonna sign my very first bill that's
called immigrant reform.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
That's doing something for a group of people.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Now I'm black in Hispanic, so I ain't got a
problem against immigrants. But what I'm saying is, if you
can't do something for one group of people, my love,
that's one group of people, let me move for it.
But when you took the l let me add to that.
Not only did you not come out. You sent a
man to come out and address these people. He was

(59:32):
fine too. You sent a man. I don't know if
you're married, but that man was handsome. I send a
man to come out and address the people. You didn't
even send another woman or black woman. This was a
woman's moment, and that's what she made it. Black and woman.
You sent a man to do a woman's job. And
in my opinion, that all that did was tell the

(59:55):
folks who said women can't lead, see she sent a
man out to do it, and then came out the
next day and said, Okay, I'm gonna have this.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
That's not leadership.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
To me, leadership is commitment, and commitment is doing what
you said you would doe regards of how you feel,
I don't care how you felt.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Kamala, come out and address us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Those kids left what they had down. They weren't sad
just because she lost. They were sad because they were
looking for who was still their leader, whether she lost
or not. To come out and address those kids, that's wrong.
That's just out of pocket. That's not leadership. And you
got to have a backbone.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
So I mean, either.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
I still supported her, I voted for her, but I
didn't see the leadership in her from the beginning, but
I was rooting for her. I wanted sisters to show different.
But when she didn't show up for that, I said,
this is it. You know, maybe I'll run in four
years and I'll run black and women, and I'll run

(01:00:52):
all these ways. And I'm you know, very lovingly criticizing
Kamala for and maybe when I win, you know, y'all
will say, well, of course you came out doc because
you won.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
He is married too. I looked it up for you, sister.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
Personally.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, okay, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
We grew up in La.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Everyone and everyone in LA, and that's how you know
in La we know each other. Yeah, unless she in
the eighties eighties kids.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
I was gonna ask, what was the last time you
apologize or last time you were wrong about something?

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
You remember? Good question? It probably no, probably.

Speaker 8 (01:01:28):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
It probably was to my best friend Lola and my assistant.
We work so closely together, We're always together. And because
I'm so comfortable with her, she gets all of my
moving parts right. So she gets like the really good mes,
she gets like the Braddy mea, she gets the.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
What the fuck are you doing you're moving too slow me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
You know, she gets the thank you me, and then
she gets to like, you know, I'm sorry, You're right,
that was a little brash or you know, so probably
her to be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
With me, what about to me and that you're dating.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
They never get an apology, I.

Speaker 6 (01:02:02):
Actually though, because you are very strong in opinion and
stuff like that. And I think men think that women
that are structured like you don't know how to be
accountable and don't know how to apologize.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
I'm very accountable. I do apologize. That's why I said,
I want a man who will say with respect and me.
He ain't about to just dominate, like shut your ass uptight.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
He can be disrespectful, but I want a man who's like,
hold on, you're out of pocket right now, you know,
like we don't do that. This is not what we do.
And I like you strong, but this is not strong.
This is disrespectful, baby. But I want him to be
able to know how to say it, and then I
will be like, you know, even if it's not in
that moment, I can process and be like, you know what,
you're right, and I do.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
I will apologize.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
I will come to myself because I have the discipline
of that self talk of saying stop, you know, or
I will say, listen, you've already apologized, You've done everything
you could right now, it's not a youth problem. I'm
still trying to get out of my ego. So just
give me thirty minutes, because baby, you've apologize like you
done your job. And then I come around in twenty
thirty minutes and I'm like, okay, I'm back and I'm

(01:03:04):
sorry to.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
That's awareness, that's kountability.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
And the thing is when you really want peace, and that's.

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
The thing about being single for so long.

Speaker 6 (01:03:11):
Though I can, yes, you find it, you figure it out,
I find a piece and enjoy that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
When you do get into relationships, gotta make sense.

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
And when you do get a.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Relationship, though, you're really saying let's dead this, let's dead
in this argument because see, I'm so used to being
happy because it's just me that I just want to
get to the cuddle part again. I just want to
get to the happy party again. So what do we
need to do just to be good? And people who
are so used to being in relationships with this circle
dysfunction of argument, they leave that marriage and do the
same thing.

Speaker 6 (01:03:40):
Have you ever got afraid that you're going to get
so used to that piece that you're not gonna want
to do nothing? Because I tell myself the other time,
like I'm in such a good state, I don't want
nothing to bother me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
But no, because I have been I have been serial
dating for the six years I've been single. So when
I say single, it means I haven't been committed but committed.
But have I had like three months six months relationships
that went that long season and word exclusive and we're
committed in that season because I am very into exclusivity.
I don't like casual sex, and so I will accidentally

(01:04:10):
go a year, year and a half celibate because I
don't like the casualty.

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
Of sex, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
And so yeah, no, So I'm dating like I mean, like,
I have someone that I spend time with now that
I will go on dates with.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
We're not committed, so I'm still single, but.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
I'm a woman who I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna have
a companion around. I love the companionship and I love
a man's energy. That tassashron, that alpha energy is recharging
for me, and it's not something that I would just
say like, oh I could do without.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
No, I want it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
I love it, and so I keep around what I
want And when I decide to, I would choose at
one person to be around for the long term.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Well, when does that decision happen for you?

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Now, I'm in my choosing stage, so it's gonna happen
now soon. I'm in my choosing stage. But but I'm
not I'm not desperate, so it's not like again, I'm
not choosing just a high valued man. Even take a
man who's a little less value, meaning a little less
income money, But I just love this man.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
He's my person.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
So you would take the bus driver.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
I don't, Well, only know because he's away from me
for too long and he's coming home with money that's
not worth the value of the time I'm not getting
with you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
What if he's a good man. I guess That's why
I'm confused about what the high value man think, because
I'm like, I understand he got the bank, but what
if he's just got a poor spirit.

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
What if he got a poor character.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
What if he's not willing to do the work on him?

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Stuff like That's why I'll take little less value in
higher functioning, Like I don't want high value, little functioning.
I'll take a little less value because I do well
on my own. Am I gonna take care of a man? No?

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
Am I gonna spoil the hell out of him? Hell yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
But I'm not gonna take care of you. But while
I go, will I take you on a trip because
you mind's Yeah? What I buy you a brand new
car when you come home and this is the lambell
you wanted?

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
Hell yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
But are you going to be a man who is
not submitting to me either? Or can't be in your out,
or you ain't paying no bills, or you're not respecting me,
you're not coming to support my shows, You're not on
my speaking towards. No, I'm not doing it with a
man who's not doing those things. But do I need
you to just take full carr of me? And then
I still got my hand out? No, I'm submitting to you.
You're have in house loving. I'm not gonna deny that.

(01:06:11):
Whatever I gotta do, I got you. I did that
in relationships, and that's why the men I've been with
are the men I've dated also have always wanted to
marry me because I'm a good woman.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
I treat them that I'm loving.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
But also because I'm not choosing a man just for
their value. I want you to have money. I want
to go to Mauthey's. I want a trip. I want
you to buy me a Burkin. Not because I want
a Burken, It's because I want it from you, right,
And so the Burken or the Louis or whatever the
hell coming from.

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
You is what I plays value in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
And that's what makes me love the bad That's what
makes me love the iPhone because you bought the iPhone
for me.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
Yeah right, so yeah, yeah, I mean he could. Yeah,
so I would, and I would regular rather have a
regular man who.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Isn't in the limelight, who we both don't have to
straddle this this whole industry thing, and he can go
run a business or go.

Speaker 5 (01:06:59):
Be a corporate guy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
He can come to my shows and we can go
home and have intellectual pillow talk. I can go home
and put my hair in a in a bird's nest
and walk around with sweats and a tank top and
no brawl.

Speaker 7 (01:07:13):
He just always so you got the show.

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
Truth talks.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
I do truth talks, yes, before we get out of here.
So truth Talks is my new talk show. It's on Fox.
It's Monday through Friday eight to give you Sometimes the
producers are like, Doc, you know, give the other cohole
time to talk. I'm like, I gotta do that. But

(01:07:44):
it's cool because we're pretty much we're a global news.
We're a c n M that gives you the black voice,
the black perspective, and.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
We're bringing truth to everything news with culture uh twist
to it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
So we're every night eight pm Prime Time.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
Love that follow me on Underscore.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Doctor Brian on Instagram social media, or you can go
to doctor Brian dot com and that's doctor Brian dot
coeo not dot com. And then I'm on my speaking tour.
So every weekend I am on the tour with Tonight's Conversation,
but I'm also on my own speaking tour. So every
weekend go to my website of my social media, You'll
see that I'm with Tonight's Conversation for the rest of
this year, but i also have my own speaking tour
in Chicago.

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
We got Atlanta, we got LA, we got London.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
We got Canada, we have Iowa. I'm like, I'm like,
y'all are black people Iowa?

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
Right, that's hod when I be on my comedy, so
like who is in Wisconsin?

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Even two people in Iowa who are black, whose lives
I can shift are changed.

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
The doc is on her way.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
With the doc is on her way.

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
We're gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
Yeah, that's doctor.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
We appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
I am thank you for having us.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
But no, Charlotamange, seriously, thank you for being such an
advocate this whole mental health. It's not an event you
have a mental health movement going on. When I came there,
people I mean to see black people, black men with
like mental health for black people, black man for mental
health and mental health is life changed. They had like
merch with everything mental health black and even though it's
for all races and our ages. Your panelists there were

(01:09:11):
just giving incredible information. People were sitting there intrigued, entertained,
but more than that, people were leaving with gyms that
they were really like, Yo, this event is powerful, So
thank you for having that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
I needed you there, like when you were like top
of the lism like doctor Brian got to be there.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
So I'm happy that we can make that happen.

Speaker 6 (01:09:30):
You have.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Thank It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (01:09:32):
Good morning. Thank you wake that ass.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Up in the morning. The Breakfast Club