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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Yeah, it's the world most dangerous. Wanting to show to
breakfast Club Charlamagne the God. Laura le Ross is here,
just hilarious?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Is here?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Who's feeling in for envy? Laura l Rosse is feeling
in for envy? Is it me feeling in? He's here?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I'm here, but she's feeling in? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, he's a guest today though, because his new book,
Real Life, Real Family with the Queen of the House
Gia Casey is out right now will come like April fifteen.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Because April fifteenth.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yes, how you feeling?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
You humbled by being given the opportunity to write a
book about something that is the most important thing to me,
the thing I'm the most passionate about, the thing that
brings me the most joy family, parenting, my household, our home.
So yes, I'm very humbled.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
This is the second book. Yes, it's amazing. You know what,
let's just rewind it big for those who don't know
who is the Casey screted? Where did that name come from?
How did y'all get started?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Do you remember the Ksey Crew? Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Our last name?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (01:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
No, no, but do you remember how we came up
with the name.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
How do we come up with the name.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
We were doing our first podcast, and it was before
we were doing like the audio version of the video version.
It was just the audio version, and we started the
podcast without a name. And we sat there and we
kind of was coming up with like different names, and
one of us said, well, how about the k C crew.
You know, our last name is Casey. We have a
whole crew of kids, a whole gaggle. What about the
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k C Crew. And then people you know, DMed us
and emailed and whatnot, and they said, yeah, we love
that name. We love that name. So we decided to
call ourselves the KC Crew.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Amazing that's where it came about.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
And whenever you post on social you always hashtag the
k C Crew. Yes, MV does as well. But one
of the things that you guys were really good from
the podcast to bringing it online is you pay attention
to the comments and the responses.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Kia.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah, and you.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Guys bring them into the podcast, but you also like
reflect on them on social media. So I want to
read one of the the posts that we pulled in.
I thought that this was great. You inspired me. This
is someone commenting to you, guys. You inspired me. I
wish all parents had this level of intention, planning and vibe.
Truth is, most parents, moms are stressed, over worked by
trying to make ends meet, in harboring trauma. Therefore, it's
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passed down to the children. You've passed down light and
love because of that and because of what you are,
high five to all of the parents doing their best.
And you use that as a moment to talk about like, no,
it gets a little crazy over here, but oh yeah,
but it's important because when you if you've ever been
around your family, it is a lot of love and
a lot of light.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
But I'm sure on the inside things get crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Well, you know, that's a big misconception. People assume that
because you live a certain lifestyle or because you've earned
a certain financial status, that you don't have the same
problems that they have. You know, in the same comment section,
you'll see people like, oh, it's easy when you have money. Oh,
you know, like your problems are not our problems. But
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that is such a misconception. You know, we just got
over one of the toughest years of our lives, probably
the worst year of our life. And yeah, the last
two years have been and that's a conversation for another day.
But we've gone through a lot of trauma, a lot
of disappointment, a lot of heartache, a lot of sadness,
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and things that we had to shield our children from,
things that we had to figure out how to keep
that brave face and how to not let it affect
our family foundation. You know, because that trickle down effect
is so real. Your kids know when you're not happy,
they know when you're stressed, they know when you're struggling,
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they know when you're upset with one another, and they
receive that energy and they project that energy. And that's
something that is universal because there's not a single family
out there that doesn't have trials, tribulations, heartache, setbacks, finance
stress is I don't care who you are, you have
experienced that. So financial abundance, financial security, even for people
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that have that, that in and of itself doesn't mean
that you're happy. Some of the most miserable people that
I know do very very well. It doesn't mean that
you come along with the skill set to know how
to live a happy life and how to teach your
children how to have a happy life. So that comment
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really really stood out to me because she spoke on
the troubles and the trauma and the word trauma that
she used, and Rashan will speak on the word trauma.
Sometimes he feels as though it's a word that's overused,
but it's a word that represents something that so many
people endure. The difference now is that we have words
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to identify how we feel and what we go through,
and it's articulated. Because when our feelings and our experience,
says are articulated, then you're able to communicate. People are
able to understand you, You're able to understand other people.
You're able to have empathy and compassion for other people
because now we're all speaking in universal language. Like the
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word triggered, like the word trauma, like the word gas.
You know, these are things that some may think are
overused now, but yes, but there is value there. There
is value there because now we can see each other,
we understand each other.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
When you're trying to create.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
A safe space, you know, how is it to venture
into an unsafe space like the.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Comments, especially when somebody looks on the air every day,
you know what I mean? You have an opinion about.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Every day, so I read every single comment. I interact.
It started when I had a lower follower account. It
started because I always felt that if someone follows me,
that's an investment in a small invent maybe, but it's
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an investment that they put into me. And they're looking
at my content content, they're looking at my pictures. And
you left a comment, I want to respond back to you.
I used to respond to almost every comment, you know,
but then when my followers went up, I wasn't really
able to do that. And that was something that you know,
I had to take that on the chin. I wasn't
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able to. But it's a sign of respect. And you said,
why do I do that to myself? Because I'm strong
enough to do that. I'm strong enough to do that.
The comments don't if they are negative, and I have
to say, I don't receive a lot of negative comments, thankfully,
thank God. But if they are negative, I look at
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it as insight. I might ask myself, why might someone
have that perspective? Why may you have drawn that conclusion?
To me? It feeds my mental because I'm a thinker.
I'm a deep thinker. I'm all over things. I love
to understand people, I love the concepts that kind of
creates society. I love to understand cause and effect relationships
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and things of that nature. So for me, the comments
are food and they also bring me happiness when they're good.
It lets you know that you're reaching someone whatever it
is that you're putting out, because it's in the sense
of sharing. There's a lot of things that I don't share,
you know what I mean. So if I choose to
share and it's well received, then that's a good feeling.
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I think that's why a lot of people are on
or part of the reason why a lot of people
are on social media, you know what I mean. And
I'm strong enough to do so, and that's because of
the way that I was raised. I was raised to
be a very strong and resilient woman. It comes directly
from my parents, and I'm fortunate in the sense that
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I can look back and identify things about the way
that I was raised that created the individual, the woman,
the mother, the wife that I am, and it's for me.
It's a very beautiful thing. Both of my parents are
no longer here, so to be able to say, wow,
when my mother did this every single day, or when
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she took me here once a week or when she
said this to me, and those compliments, and that the
way that she fed me and she fed my soul,
and the joy that I experienced, and the amount of
fun that I had as a kid, like I loved
my life. And it's not because we were wealthy. We
were not. We were a middle class family. I'm from Brooklyn,
from East Flatbush. We weren't raised, you know, like I'm
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from an urban area. And it's not. It had nothing
to do with money. It had nothing to do with wealth.
It had everything to do with what my parents poured
into my home and the love that I felt. And
that is what we put into writing this book. There's
a lot of books that we could have written, you know,
so many ideas came out because Real Life for Love
(08:54):
was a huge success. It was a national bestseller. So's
I go, you write book about this? You writ we said,
we write book about family. It's what we know best.
It's what we know best. We've had so many ups,
so many downs, so many wins, so many losses, so
many things that we thought we were doing right that
we weren't. That we had to regroup and make sure
that we were balanced, you know, as as a married
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couple because when we didn't agree, it's like my way
is better, know what my way is better? And this,
you know, we have to come to a meeting of
the minds. Yeah, you know what I mean. So a relationship,
you know, the relationship grew, you know, because we had
to learn how to see eye to eye as parents.
So there was just there was many, many ups and downs,
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and we wanted to pour that all into a book,
you know. We wanted to let everyone know like it's
really that village mentality. It's really that like we are
a community, especially our black community because I'm black, yes, yeah, yeah,
for the record, for the record, some Spanish blood. But
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it's like I know that you're well aware because you
speak to things of this nature often. But our history
is being erased in schools and it's being stripped away
silently in society. So the foundation starts in our homes.
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We have to teach children how to identify themselves. We
have to teach children that sense of belonging and they
have to understand that they come from something meaningful. And
if you leave it up to society to teach them that,
you're going to wind up with children that are lost
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that are overlooked, that don't know how to identify themselves,
that get taken advantage of, and that are susceptible to
what society wants for them. So for us, our core,
our nucleus, our foundation, our home superseds anything else in
this world. We put our family first.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
Would you say that you and and we have two
different parenting styles?
Speaker 5 (11:20):
It was the more lenient parent. Who was the more
lenient parent?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
It depends what it is like.
Speaker 9 (11:26):
You know, everybody knows my dad is retired police officer
and ex military, so I'm disciplined. I was the yell
of the screamer because I said, so is a lot different,
Like she wants to know why did you feel that
she likes to break down?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You don't get it.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
You're gonna get it by the end of the right exactly.
Speaker 9 (11:44):
So you got to think, really think before you speak
to us, because she's like, all right, well, explain that,
like I just said it, just because no, no, no, explain this.
But so I'm more like, because I said so, she's
more like, well, you can't go to the more because
of this, because this could happen. Explain your parenting style
mine is my dad was like, no, and you didn't
ask why, it just it was what it was.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
You just figured out later.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Is a little different. I prefer the explanation.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah. So that's how my parents were with me. I
knew that my parents were invested in me living a happy,
fulfilled and fun life. And we didn't go lightly on
the fun. And because I knew that at end, and
my parents never said no just for the sake of
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saying no. Because parents are overworked and they are stressed,
and the last thing they want to hear when they
walk through the door is Mommy, can I can you
take me here? Can you buy me this? Can we
watch this together? Can we go like slow down?
Speaker 6 (12:40):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
And sometimes you say no, you don't even know why
you're saying no. That's not a good parenting technique. You
really have to take a moment. You have to take
a beat. We all have to take a beat to
listen to our children and be patient. And because I
knew that my parents were invested in me that way,
I knew that when they said no there was a
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good reason. Because they would never slight me. They would
never tell me no because they were too tired. They
would never tell me no just because they didn't want
to be bothered. So it's like, oh, well, if mommy
said no, that means that I'm not supposed to be there,
or that means that she genuinely can't take me. And
they both would take the time to explain to me,
you know, like, you don't want to go to that
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party in Conye Island because in that neighborhood there's a
lot of shooting and da data and you're a young girl.
And I'll take it a step further. You know what
my parents used to do from time to time. They
would take me to a party, not the one in
Coney Island, but a party and they would park and
wait outside for me for two or three hours until
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I came out. And this was before cell phones and
all that stuff. My dad had this little portable TV
and he would recline his seat, set the portable TV
up on the dashboard, and just watch TV until or
whatever it was that he was watching, until I came out.
That let me know that my parents rooted for me.
They wanted me to enjoy life. So when they told
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me no, I knew that I had no business considering it.
Considering whatever it was that I was considering.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Take a step forward.
Speaker 9 (14:12):
The other day, London, which is our eleven year old,
wanted to walk to a friend's.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
House after school.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
A friend's house was a.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Block away, two blocks, two blocks.
Speaker 9 (14:20):
Gear drives in a car, looking like a stalker and
followed them the two blocks as they're walking. But London, no,
London was like, that's my mom following us.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't worry.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
But she just wanted to walk, and Gear followed her
ass right to that house.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Well, the thing is that you know, she's eleven, so
she wants to all of her friends, all of them
they walk home from school because they all live in
the same neighborhood and they all walk home. But London
is not allowed to walk home. No, absolutely, positively not.
And there's there's this very significant reason for it, well
at least a partial reason. And I said, all right, babe,
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you can walk, but I'm going to follow you those
two blocks. She was like, okay, mommy, no problem. Meanwhile,
you have a their kids that might be like, oh
why can't I just can't you trust me eleven? I'm
not stupid, you know, other kids would rebel. Our kids
are so conditioned to understanding that it's for their safety
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and they welcome it, especially like our oldest Madison, Madison,
when she went to college, she was like, can you
chip me? Put a chip, like, put a chip in
her arm because.
Speaker 9 (15:31):
It was almost kidnapped as a kid. They try to
grab her the door, someone face being cut. So we
are very extra.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
When it comes to our kids.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
And then you know, Charlemagne and you guys know things
that has happened, you know, behind the scenes, but we're
very careful when it comes to the kids.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Yeah, when I was nine, a man tried to abduct
me and it was awful.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
She was walking the door and all that.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
He choked me out like he he had a change
of clothes hidden. He was caught.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
He was caught.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
But that's the h's Yeah, that story is in the book.
But you know, so I experience, I understand. I come
from a place where I understand that the worst can
happen to you, you know, because we go through lifehily like,
oh no, that happens to other people, you know, other
people go through things like that. I've been through so
much that I understand that the worst can happen to you.
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So I protect my kids with vigilance because of that
personal knowledge that I have of it.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, how make sure you not? You're raising the kids
out of love and not fear at all.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
That's such a good question. It comes with the explanations,
do you know what I mean. I don't tell them
you can't do this and you can't do that. Why
because I said so. Let me explain to you why.
You know, sometimes we'll watch the news together, you know,
when they're at an appropriate age, at about nine years old.
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You know, I think that they're mature enough to ingest
certain things. So what I do is I would record
it on my DVR and then cherry pick different stories
that I think that are appropriate, that speak to the
protective measures that we take on them, you know what
I mean. So it's like, if I see a child
abduction that's not too traumatic, I might save that and
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then show it to a child that's old enough.
Speaker 10 (17:16):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I did it with Madison, I did it with Logan,
and I find that they take that into their adult
lives and they're very very Madison Like, Madison walks around
like a police officer. She has a boyfriend. His name
is Andrew, and when they go into a restaurant, she's
the one that sits facing the door. She feels like
the protective force in that relationship because her head is
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always on swivel, you know what I mean. She could
tell you a car that was driving six cars ahead,
you know, and she's always paying attention to license plates.
When she was young, I used to go through like
in case you get kidnapped scenarios because it's the type
of information that can save a child's life. It's the
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type of information that can save a life, especially now
with all of this human trafficking and all the stories
with you know you they put like a zip a
zip tag on your on your on your door, and
they put a dollar or money near your there's there's
all these techniques. Girls are being taken. So if you
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have a young girl, it is very proactive to educate
them about the realities and the tricks and the cons
that people. You know, because even me, as proactive as
I try to be, that whole technique with a baby
crying outside your house, I would I would be inclined
to open the door if I hear a baby crying
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and someone that sounds like a mother yelling and screaming
outside the house. I am that type of person, but
not me. But now I am, I am, but I
would my heart with my ie would be inclined to
open that door. But now with all the knowledge and
some of the good things about social media is that
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so much knowledge is being spread, so now we're consuming
good information as well. So I heard that, I'm like, wow,
that's absolutely absolutely right. It jogs your thinking, It makes
you say, oh, wait a minute, I do have to
put myself first, even if someone else, a stranger, seems
to be in need. I have to prioritize myself, my home,
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my family. So you know, it's it's important to spread
information and to teach your kids, even though it may
be a little scary, but you do have to do
it in a way where it doesn't incite fear.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
How do y'all go ahead, How y'all pick and choose?
Speaker 6 (19:49):
What do y'all like, what y'all decide to be transparent about,
because there's so much, Like you have stuff that you
have to protect them from just because they're going to
school and you guys, people know you. But then you
also have stuff that's just happening in the world that
they could encounter with their friends. Like it's just so much.
Your kids are getting older, and they're like, you know,
like they they're wanting to walk by themselves with their friends.
If it was.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Up to me, I'm transparent with everything. Right has to
hold back a lot. And the reason I think I'm streaming, well,
the reason.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
I'm so transparent I'll explain. But the reason I'm so transparent.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
What you mean?
Speaker 9 (20:25):
But you know so so some things get you know,
like for instance, like with Logan, Right, Logan when he
was in high school used to get picked on all
the time.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Right, But he used to get picked on. Guess for
what reason? No, because because Charlemagne, yes, yes, so.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
When you gave me the ask, that's why.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He gave me the buck cake when he gave me
not much better. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
I'm not about to hate.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
He used to get made fun of it because of that.
Speaker 9 (21:06):
So, but the reason I'm so transparent is there's so
many families and people dealing with the same things but
never want to talk about it. Scared to So that's
why I talked about the orgasm thing in the first book.
That's why in this in the second. But we talk
about you know the time that from the.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
No, no, not every.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Every you want to do some.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
Even like in this book, we talk about the time
that that uh, Logan found a bloody condom at one
of his friend's house, so he can't, but he's he's
comfortable while you're looking at that it wasn't mine.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
He's like, oh, he found right friend's house and and
he was like maybe nine years old, nine years old.
He was about nine years old.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
But he was comfortable enough to keep in the basement.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
And the little boy had an older brother.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, when char.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
Gave so she had that's when we had the sex
talk and had to have the sex talk with Logan
and Madison.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
What kind of sex talk though it wasn't a backdoor
sex talk that they just birds and bees and.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
They got a full blown, okay sex talk. They had
to understand because if you leave it back.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Doing sex, That's what I'm really trying to figure out.
Why was the condon bloody? I'm really when somebody ran red, Like.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
Yeah, somebody just ripped somebody butt open, somebody ran a red.
Speaker 7 (22:54):
Don't be like the first time thing.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah, yeah, but no, they at that point I found
that they were all enough and mature enough, and you're
they're encountering things. Now, these conversations are being had amongst
their peers. And I knew that if I didn't set
them straight, that they were going to be absorbing all
of this wrong information and wrong ideas. So I told
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them sex feels good. It's a pleasureful experience. God made
us that way because God wants us to reproduce. He
wants us to create offspring. So he made it something
that we would enjoy. But it's meant for someone that
you love, and that's the reason why. So they're like, oh, okay,
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so what is it like and what did you say? Okay,
if I'm being honest, I told them that there is
a penis, and there is a vagina and it does
slide in and out. And my son Logan was like,
so like this, yeah, they're bad. Yes, they're eleven about
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they're about eleven and nine him that I'll never forget
since you asked. He was like, so is it like
like I was like, yeah, something like that. I said,
you know, some people look at it as a negative thing. No, no, no,
he really didn't know. He really didn't. He really didn't
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even even like my eleven year old son right now,
he does not know. He asked me three days ago,
like what does sexual mean, I said, it's not for you.
It's not for you to understand right now. So when
they asked me questions that I don't want them to
know about. And he's older than Logan was, But now
with I have a better grip on his friends and
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a grip on what he's exposed to on his phone
and whatnot in Parameter's boundaries, So I'm really abreast of
what he knows and what he doesn't in our lines
of communication are way way better. Like he like those kids.
They come to me every day and when they get
home from school, either for a half an hour an hour,
depending on what activity they have. Afterwards, they have their turns.
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They sit at the foot of my bed, they lay
down or they sit down and they tell me about
their entire day. They tell me the best part of
their day, the worst part of their day, and one
kind thing that they did for someone else that day.
So that's just our routine, that's our ritual. And they
tell me everything, and you would be shocked and appalled
to know the things that they divulge. But it's because
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we create that safe space, We create that soft place
to land, We create a no judgment zone and you
could tell me anything. It could be the world's worst.
I will never ever judge you. I will help you
fix it. We'll extract all the lessons, everything that you
need to learn from it, whether you were wrong, whether
you weren't whatever. It is like, this is your safe
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space and they have that foundation. So they share, they share,
and we take that time like we share.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
Yeah, you have six Kames, So was there anything because
y'all have all age groups, So is there anything that
you felt like in the beginning, y'all didn't know until
y'all got to that six kid of course, Like what
were some of the I'll give you an example.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
You didn't know? You just was like, well we may
and Rashan winging.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
This, I'll give you. I'll give you an example. But
to speak to what you said, like we wrote a book,
that doesn't mean that we know everything, and it doesn't
mean that it's not an evolution. It doesn't mean that
we're still learning every single day. Like I said earlier,
it's a sense of community where we share our experiences
and the wins and the losses so that other people
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can understand they're not alone. And it comes in all shades,
all forms, all fashions, all financial groups, we all speak
a universal universal language as parents. With Logan, so one
of one of the fails, and this was something that
we disagreed on. So it was the explaining everything to
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the kids. I have the patience to do it. And
he really is a because I said so type of guy.
And it worked beautifully with Madison, but with Logan from
a young age, I would explain everything to him and
he's a MoMA's boy.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Time's thirty and he tells.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Us it is that boy, Like we have a thing,
you know, and I have a different thing with all
of my kids, but me and him have our thing.
Like he calls me at all times of the day,
all time. He will call me at three o'clock in
the morning, like at twelve o'clock in the afternoon, and
she's like, yeah, what's up, mom, what's going on? You're good? Yeah,
I'm good. I was just at the club home. I'm
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about to FaceTime you, Lucas and Andrew. Here, take a look,
take a look, and I'm like, what's up? Sleep is up?
But okay, you know what I mean. Like we're very
very close. But it kind of went wrong with him
because what we found was that we created an environment
where he felt that he was entitled to an explanation,
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and he felt as though because we gave him too
safe of a space that he could challenge me. And
he can challenge a decision that I made. And he's
very and he's very intelligent. He's very, very intelligent. So
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Rashwan always says that I'm like a lawyer, right, he
says it all the time. I know what it feels
like because I have a logan and logan lawyers me,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
So they do it each other all day long, Yes,
all day.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Long, and in a lot of ways, I enjoy it
because I feel like he really does challenge me, and
he's one of the only people that I feel like
does that in my life. And I love to see
the mental exercise. I love to see how his brain
is moving and how he's getting around the things that
I'm saying and things like that. So it's good at
his adult age now because he's twenty one, But when
he was a child, it wasn't acceptable because I'm going
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to explain because this is what I do. But now
you're not understanding that that's a grace that I show you.
It's not something that you're entitled to. This is a
courtesy that I'm extending to you, but you're not entitled.
So we had to dial that back to boundaries. And
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then we had to teach boundaries and let him know
his place because he started to misunderstand his place. So
that was that was a fail in a sense. And
Rashalmoud always look at me like see I told you,
Like see I told you because.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
He's a bad guy.
Speaker 9 (29:32):
Because now I got to go discipline that, right, So
now me and Logan get into it.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
And now you can't beat Logan because Logan.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
So now I got a discipline Logan, and then me
and Logan get into it. But one thing about Logan
and all of our kids, which is the craziest thing,
is they're very forgiven. Like with Logan, I have to
get sometimes so disrespectful for him to understand. And the
next day he's like, hey Dad, what's up. And I'm like,
hey Dad, what's up. But that's how he is, and
he just has conversations. But we have those conversations and
we understand and we talk. But he's the one that
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just like his mom.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
Did you fail like a failure?
Speaker 4 (30:05):
No? No, I didn't feel like a failure, but I
knew that that technique wasn't wasn't necessarily fail, but it
needed tweaking. So then we had our other four and
there was a huge gap. There's about nine years between
Logan and London. So I wanted to maintain what I
always believed in and how I was raised, but I
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wanted to implement some of because I told you so
as well, Like I am going to explain to you,
but I'm going to let you know that it is
because I'm showing you grace and it's because I respect you,
So in turn, you have to respect me, and you
have to respect the decision and we can talk about
it as long as it's coming from a good place.
And I'm not sensing any attitude from you, any entitlement
from you, or anything that I don't like to feel
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as we sit here and discuss it. So you got
to make sure you keep it right. And my kids
get it. So this pack of three, because Peyton's three
years old, but my eleven, my ten, and my eight,
they get it. Like I tell them, if they were
really curious, they might question, and then after I say
it again, they're like okay, absolutely, whatever it is. And
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so it's it's through that trial and error with Madison
and Logan that were able to take all the good stuff,
you know, all the good stuff and pour it into
this second batch of kids.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
No, go ahead, I thought, I'm asking so much.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
So no, it's okay.
Speaker 8 (31:26):
So in the beginning, So going back to something you
said earlier, you were saying that the past two years
was very traumatic and not getting into that. How challenging
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was it writing this book? Like was it ever moments
where you uh amersha or just you like broke down,
like not like giving up, but it was challenging for
you to get deep into any you know, any of
the chapters or what you win through within the pastry year.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
You know what, I'll be honest with you, no pun intended,
but I'm an open book. I'm not a private person.
I've never been a very private person. And it's because
i feel as though the value in life is truth.
You know, even if it's not pretty. You know, there's
no value to anything if it's not honest, if it's
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not true, if it's not transparent, if it's bs, it's worthless.
You know, if you wrap everything in a pretty bow.
It's worthless because who can relate to you? Nobody. I
can't relate to people that appear to be perfect or
pretend to be perfect, because I don't know you. I
don't know anybody like you, you know what I mean. So
anytime that I'm honest or I'm vulnerable about something, to me,
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it's like giving a little gift from myself. It's sharing
something that I know other people wouldn't share because they'd
be too embarrassed or it disrupts the image that they're
trying to present, so that I don't respect. So it's
very easy for me to tell my truth from where
I genuinely come from.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
You did you'll have a family mission statement?
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
What is the mission statement? And tell people the importance of.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
That well, just so we know, we don't have it
on our wall and then make the kids read it
when they walk in the house.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
It's not like that.
Speaker 9 (33:19):
So our mission statement is just something that we, you know,
as a family, we all live by, right, And I'll
read some of them. And the reason is is we
are a close unit, right, So if you see us together,
we're all.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Always out together.
Speaker 9 (33:30):
You see me the other day with Jackson, you've seen
me before and Charlamage seen before.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
So the mission statement is we are a unit. Right,
we all ride together like we are really a unit,
a unit.
Speaker 9 (33:39):
I'm an only child, so I'm I'm heavy into taking
care of each other.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Right.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
We respect each other, of course, it's simple, like we
make sure that, you know, we respect each other's feeling.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
We always have each other's backs.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
That's one thing that we always do, and it's you know,
sometimes when we have conversations up here, I always talk
about my kids. So when they see stuff on social media,
at times I have to stop them because they will
go in, especially.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Logan Logan, Oh yeah, we always.
Speaker 9 (34:05):
Loved uplift each other and pointing out the good in
one another. Right, So we see that more, especially with
our girls in dance because they compete against each other
a lot. So when they do, we have to make
sure that regardless of what happens. Like a couple of
weeks ago, London lost and we thought London got jerked.
So I told you know, I had a conversation with Brooklyn,
and Brooklyn was like that, don't worry, I'm gonna get
first and second four And she went out there and
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bust ask that first and.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Second he got first place and second.
Speaker 9 (34:28):
Again you know, gave the first place to her sister.
Because that's what it was. We represent each other at
all times. That's how it always is. So we always
tell our kids if we're not there, you make sure
that those parents come back and say, oh my gosh,
she was such a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
He was polite, he was this even with Jackson at
the game.
Speaker 9 (34:44):
You know, Jackson said thank you a million one time,
so you said hello million one time.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
To you, because that's what he's taught to do, that you.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Show respect one second before you go on with that.
My goal for my kids is that when they leave
our house, I want everyone that they come in contact
with to know that they're well loved. Do you know
what I mean? Like, I want them to know that
they're well loved. What we teach you inside this house,
you exemplify outside of this house. And it's so interesting
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because you know, as parents, we have a goal, you know,
and these are goals that we vocalize to one another.
So when we get calls from other parents when our
kids are on a playdate, teachers principles. Both sets of
kids went to a new school and we got calls
from like the parent, the teachers, like what are you
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guys doing in that house? What are you doing with
these kids? Like I've never seen this before, and all
three of them are like this. It lets you know
that you're doing something right, you're doing something meaningful. Those
teachers know that they're well loved, and of course other
children are well loved. It's not that, but it's coming
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from a mental space that you understand. And like what
we talked about earlier about articulating words and things, when
you articulate something to a child and you do it
in a way where they understand what it means and
what their actions mean. Because you can love your child
to death, you could take a bullet for them.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
You do.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
You work hard, you hustle, you do everything for your kids.
You love your kids, but they could still go out
and be a menace because the lessons may be lost.
And these are things that a lot of parents don't
put into perspective when raising children because what do we
usually do. We take it. We take, like, you know,
an idea, and we throw it up against the wall
and we see if it sticks or not.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Oh that worked, Oh that didn't okay, But a lot
of people don't have something tangible that they can go
back to and be like, this is this is this
is a way to create a foundation, This is a
way to create a structure. And because we had so
many ups and downs, we were able to do that
and put it in one place.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
And I think the biggest story now hate want to
tell a story was Jackson.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Right.
Speaker 9 (37:01):
So we had a parent teacher's night a couple of
weeks ago and a teacher came up to me.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
The teacher that I had no idea you know who?
Speaker 9 (37:08):
He was a step night r. So he walks up
to me. He was like, are you Jackson's dad? And
I'm like yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
When a teacher usually asked, that's usually some bs.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Right.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
So I'm like, oh, hey, we go what did Jackson do?
And he was like, I just want to tell you.
You know, Jackson did something that no child or adult
has done in my life.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I'm like, well, what's that?
Speaker 9 (37:25):
And he was like the other day, I'm walking down
the hall and Jackson comes running up to me and
he goes, you know, are you okay?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
And the teacher was like, what do you mean? He
was like, you just don't look as happy as usually
do or you are right? Is anything bothering you? Would
you like to have a conversation with me and just
talk it through.
Speaker 9 (37:42):
I was like, naw, you just don't seem as happy
as you do, but don't let things stress you out.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Just pray on it and tomorrow be better, right, and
if you need to talk to me, come talk to me.
Speaker 9 (37:50):
And he said Jackson ran off and he was like,
I've never had an adult or a child ever do
that to me. So he was like, whatever you're doing
at home, continue that, and you know what I mean,
that just shows what the kids are learned at home
is worth every Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
You need to report that teacher too. He don't need
to be in school.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Was like, you got some time. So he was the
only person, I mean, London was the only person that
saw him at.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
Jackson.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
So that was stem night. But at the parent teacher conference,
one of the teachers said that if she could use
one word to describe Jackson, it would be grateful. And
she said, in thirty years of teaching, I've never used
that word with a child before. I said, well, what
do you mean by grateful? He says? She said, every day,
after every lesson. He comes up to me and says,
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thank you for teaching me today. And I said really,
And he said, she said where, Like where did like
where does he get that from? Like what's what's like?
You know? I said, that's his own interpretation. But when
he plays sports, after every game, I tell him to
shake the referee hand and to look him in this
look him in the eye, a nice strong handshake and
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say thank you. And do the same thing with your coach,
because these are people that give their time, that don't
have to give their time, and it's for you and
for your benefit and your learning and your greatness. So
you acknowledge that man or that woman and you say
thank you. So I think that that's his interpretation how
he's doing it in another way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Are such a beautiful family.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (39:33):
And this man will crashed out for any of y'all.
I know.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Behind the scenes a bunch of times.
Speaker 9 (39:41):
And Jessica was like, yo, you crash out for you.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
No man, tell excuse me, shut up anyway, when is
baby number seven? Come?
Speaker 4 (39:54):
The shop is closed? This ship has.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Said the shop is not closed.
Speaker 10 (39:59):
Okay, no, no, there's no stip snip. But I know
how not to get pregnant. No, no, I don't want
them to get.
Speaker 7 (40:11):
That's the case you ever wanted.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
No, I just don't think it's necessary. I know how
not to get pregnant yet the husband.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I'm sorry say that again for the wives who want
their husbands.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I don't know. Other other women may have gotten pregnant
unintentionally and have a different view, But me personally, I
just you know, like people have asked me, like, do
you want to get your tubes tied? I just like
our natural bodies and I like them to function the
way that they function. And if I can take a
human precaution to prevent a particular result, and I'll do that,
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I don't. I don't think that it's for me. It's
not necessary. I absolutely understand why people do both of
those procedures, but for me, I just don't find it
to be necessary. That's all, you know.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
April fifteen for it to be out in bookstores everywhere
everywhere you buy books, man Gid, thank you for pulling up.
Speaker 7 (41:07):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
You can pre order on Amazon right now.
Speaker 9 (41:10):
And for everybody else. We just want to add this
last part. We actually wrote it with somebody that helped
us out that we'll.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Talk about that. That that helped us.
Speaker 9 (41:17):
With terms and helped us with different phrases, and helped
us with made sure that we were actually doing the
right thing when it came to raising our kids.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Yeah, so we wrote it alongside a psychologist because yes,
because we wanted to make sure that our outlooks were
were on the level that I would want to put
it out to the public. I wanted the psychological research
and quarterbacking behind the way that we parent to pretty
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much put a stamp on it, to know that what
we're doing not just from our personal experience driven point
of view is sound, but from a psychological point of
view is also sound. I wanted to make sure that
alongside the true truth and the transparency and the experience
that we had that backing to the book as well.
I wanted that level of value in the book as well.
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So and also, you know, if you have a child
with anxiety, add ADHD, other setbacks, other disabilities, you know
we speak to you in this book as well, because
those people are very like they don't have that many resources.
This book is for anyone who is a parent, a
single parent, a parent that is.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Married, maybe about to have kids.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Someone that wants to have a child, You.
Speaker 7 (42:36):
Look over, thank you, It's It's, It's, It's forever.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
It's a very relatable book, and there's a lot of
exercises in the book. We kind of also created it
in like a workbook style, so there's a lot of reflections.
There's a lot of places in there for you to
answer questions so you can kind of analyze yourself and
understand your own point of view in a way of
like articulation, where if you haven't really thought about certain things,
it'll jog you to think about things. And even if
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you don't do don't take our take, it encourages you
and helps you to come up with your own takes
on parenting.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
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Speaker 4 (43:09):
Pre order it now.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
My Real Family. The Casey Crew is the Breakfast Club,
Wake that.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Breakfast Club