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January 2, 2026 43 mins

Best of 2025- Best Interviews - Omarion Talks Millennium Tour, The Art Of Swooning A Woman, Love Life . Recorded 2025. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Breakfast Club Morning.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Everybody's DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are
the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes,
sir a Marion, He welcome back.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Hey, what was the routine this morning? Man? What did
you do to wake up?

Speaker 5 (00:18):
Prey meditation, little moment to myself. You know what I'm saying,
Shower up, get fresh, say my affirmations, put on my ood.
I'm here.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
What was your intention for today?

Speaker 5 (00:30):
They just have a good time. You know what I'm saying.
Not put too much on it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (00:35):
You weren't known as the zen King?

Speaker 7 (00:37):
Like how do you stay so tranquil, like, so zenful
through everything? Like you don't let nothing bother you. I
done came at you so many times, so many This
man lets nothing get to him.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
I'm trying to get I'm intentional. Yeah, I'm intentional. And
also I don't take things personal. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
The wild thing is, you know, Marion. I just looked
it up. Marion is forty years old.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Crazy, We've been seeing him grow up.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
He's still don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Like Marion foty you still got babyhead forty. Yes, yes,
that's a blessing.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
People still look at you as like a young I
can't say team, but a young twenty year old because
that's what you look like.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Yeah, well, I mean it does confuse people sometimes, but yeah,
I think I made it to young status at this
at this point in time, you.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Ain't don kid, so is.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
You can't be.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
No Millennium Toys back?

Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm super excited about it. We
played Barclays on the twenty first, so if you ain't
got your ticket, definitely pop out. It's a moment. It's
a moment.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
What keeps you doing all?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Is that?

Speaker 6 (01:57):
That all?

Speaker 4 (01:58):
He is?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Like?

Speaker 6 (01:59):
What keeps you doing this?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
He's still doing flips and dead Like, why you twist?
You ain't gonna take a long time to heal.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
No. Actually, I have a routine of making sure that I,
you know, stay energized. I'm a performer, so it's important
that I take care of my body. But the Millennium Tour,
you know, is a series concert that has brought nostalgic
literally back on the planet. You know, my error in
my time. I'm so happy to been a part of
it because you know, it brings you back to a

(02:27):
memory and creates a new memory at the same time.
You know, so I'm excited. Yeah, were keeping it going.
We're keeping that energy going.

Speaker 8 (02:35):
Can I ask you what forty felt like? I remember
how I felt when I turned forty.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Yeah, where were you?

Speaker 4 (02:40):
What were you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
How did it feel?

Speaker 8 (02:43):
Because to me, it felt like I really into the
new dimension when I turned for it.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yeah. So I usually don't do anything for myself, and
shout out to Janine who helped me put together my
birthday party. But I had a birthday party in Malibu
and it was such an amazing gathering. You know, all
of my friends came out of my family. So I
did something for myself, you know, which was thought party.

(03:06):
Was a lot of beautiful people in the building. So
that's what I did for my birthday.

Speaker 8 (03:11):
Did you feel like yourself going into a different level
of conscience?

Speaker 5 (03:14):
For sure, a different level of maturity, a certain level
of expectation for myself. The things that I'm creating now,
you know why am I still doing it? I definitely
feel like I've arrived because you know, I'm one of
the few entertainers that have grown up in the public eye.
So growing up has you know, been a challenge. It's

(03:36):
sometimes in my career, you know what I mean. So
I finally feel like I've arrived to that place where
you know, I can have a say so and people
are understanding and respected.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
So now, how do you'all figure out who closes the
Millennium Tour?

Speaker 9 (03:50):
Like?

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Who closes that show?

Speaker 3 (03:51):
You got so many artists on it, right, and you're
one of the originators on that tour.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
So who closes the Millennium Tour?

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Well, it is a co headline, you know, myself, Trey
and Bao, So it's it's kind of meant to be
like a festival vibe. You know, any real performing artists
will tell you sometimes it's not best to close the
show because you know the energy is drained. You know,
you kind of want to go maybe second before you know,

(04:17):
the last. So for me, yeah, I don't really trip
off of that. But yeah, that's how we decide between
us and the promoters.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
How do you headline? So is it like you do
two then you jump in dough two. Yeah, Trey jumps
into do tune and exactly.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yeah, maybe Trey will close and then me and Boo
will swap in between you know, him going last before
Trey or me be going last before Trey.

Speaker 7 (04:37):
So yeah, so I know before you know, the Millennium Tour,
it was B two K.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
Why not this run?

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Well, this one was kind of more so framed for
this class you know, all the If you look at
the you know who's on there now, it's a lot
of non Millennium you know artists, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I think it's so cool that Boosy is going to
be on there, you know what I mean. Yeah, applies,
I think we're gonna get some special guests as well,

(05:09):
so exactly the whole vibe. So it's kind of, I
would say, a little bit different than you know, like
the previous years. So yeah, that's that's.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
How Why are we getting all the old like that?

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah? Getting the classic? Getting the classics? Yeah, we're getting
the classic. It's actually my twentieth year anniversary of putting
in being a solo artist. Yeah, time is flying flying, Yeah,
so yeah, we get into classics and also I'll be
introducing some new music, you know, I mean, I got

(05:44):
some new music, some new slaps. I'm gonna be performing
as well.

Speaker 8 (05:48):
So you said something that was interesting. You said growing
up for you was a challenge. Why was growing up
a challenge did you mean personally or professionally both?

Speaker 5 (05:55):
All just because you know, when you're young and people
see you're young and you don't change, you know what
I mean, Like physically, you know, because I take care
of myself. You know, people tend to just you know,
put you where they thought that you were, you know
what I'm saying. So, yeah, it's been a challenge in
that way. And then also in business, you know, just

(06:16):
really being able to like have a say so and
then I just be like, Okay, well you're a kid,
you know what I mean. Any child stars will tell
you. You know, having a foot in control in their business
is a struggle when you start young.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
When did that change?

Speaker 8 (06:32):
Like when did the people start saying, okay, this is
Amri on the grown man, not the kid.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
I think once I really started taking full responsibility for
my independence, you know, trying different things. I think that
you know, when you're in the industry for a long time,
it is peaks and valleys. You know, you're not going
to have ten hot moments, you know what I'm saying.
You might have a down moment, you might have a
transitional moment. I think that it's okay, you know, when

(06:57):
you're finding your way and I feel like after my
last couple of projects, you know, just supporting myself, being independent,
like I started to feel like, Okay, now I have
control of my career. Oh I want to put this out. Okay,
maybe I should put it out this way, you know,
maybe I should do things differently. You know, I grew

(07:17):
I grew into that. So I'm like very proud of that,
you know, because a lot of artists don't get the
chance to do that.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
That's true.

Speaker 8 (07:23):
And nobody talks about that, right, Like nobody talks about
when you're red hot, and yeah, there's an ice box
for your career used to be, you know, Like I mean,
I don't feel like you've ever been through that because
you're always.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
On the road.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
And I've been gifted, you know, with the talent to
be able to do many things. Like two years ago,
I believe the last time we spoke, you know, I
was promoting my book. So there's always something for me
to do. Something new that I just did that's really
exciting is a show called The Wild Rolls with All Black.

(07:56):
So I'm going to be you know, hitting your TVs
and too. I was in twenty six. I play an assassin,
so it's something different. First of all, Yeah, I'm doing
fighting scenes. I'm socking and popping. Wow, so you will
be seeing.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Me hold King is now an assassin.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
I mean, you know I'm acting, right, but you know
the real true measure of an actor is to tell
the truth. You know what I'm saying. So get to
show a different side of myself. I'm excited about.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
I feel like that's a natural transition for all you
flexible guys. You Chris Brown movie.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, yeah, women assart, you know, And I got a
different respect for you now, right, And I tell you why.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
So my daughter's dance right uh. And the amount of I.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Would say pressure they have one day dance, but also
the amount of time it takes the practice. Yeah, like
I never thought about it. And then when they go
to these competitions, they dance and every day they they
do ballet, hip hop, jazz, whatever it takes.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
And I'm like Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
The fact that O Marion has to do that end
scene and not worry about and not lose breath and
remember the steps.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, growing up, how often did you dance?

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Like how every day? Every day? Every day? That was
like a big part of you know, my existence in
my career. Dancing his second nature. And the singing part too,
you know, the breath you know really uh, you know,
being able to know like, okay, this is a live performance,
maybe I shouldn't do the routine right here. I definitely
have grown in that space.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Even even boys. I don't see too many boys, young
boys of men dancing. Yeah, you see every a thousand girls.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
You see two boys. Yeah, yeah, because I guess it's
the thing that a new boy wants to dance.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
But it's crazy because it's a whole language, you know,
especially when it comes to women. You know, when you
learn how to lead women and dance, you know how
to lead them in real life.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
So do you have this chill and dance?

Speaker 7 (09:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yeah, oh yeah. My daughter's in gymnastics. My son he
more so, like he's too a little too cool for it.
I was the same way early on. But yeah he
still can. He still can dance.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
But that's how you used to do some women, Let
me show you some moves, you.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Know, that's what you do.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
No, I started the mine first. I started with the
mine first, and then and then you know, then I
get into dance moves.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Did When did you first start learning to dance?

Speaker 5 (10:12):
It's I had my first dance recital at either three
or five.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Yeah, yeah, so and it was tap dance. So I've
been dancing my whole life.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
So they always they always knew that you was going
to be an entertainer.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah, wow, yeah, very much.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
So with the dance world so big, you never thought
about doing something in dance, like you know how they
have America's got talent and all these different challenges and
all these different shows. You never thought about creating your
own because you want to hip hop's dances. Yeah no,
I definitely see an old girl at the Olympics and what.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
People thought hip hop break dance was right right right?

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Damn I was. I was mad at that. Yeah, I
was mad at that. But yeah, I definitely I want
to open up some dance studios. I believe I've been
talking about it for years, but just you know, really
waiting for the opportunity to create a creative space for kids,
because that's how I grew up. You know, I went
to the Boys and Girls Club. It was always stuff
to do, you know, so I'm definitely gonna do either

(11:02):
a TV show or open up a facility for sure. Sure.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
Now going back to wild Rose, right, because you also executive,
like you yeah, producing that too. What was the process
of like getting into that role, because I mean because
planning assassin that just.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Don't come natural to you, or have you kill niggas before.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
You know, you know, what was that process like?

Speaker 5 (11:24):
So that process was deep. You know, I definitely had
an assistance with my acting coach, and you know, I
really started diving into who is this person? Who is Rose?
You know, he has twenty seven bodies, so he does
have a lot of uh psychological and emotional issues and
how it pertained to you know, this particular scene or

(11:47):
you know, at one point in time, we reveal that
my family is not no longer with me. That's something
that brings him anxiety. He's actually a righteous kill sometimes,
you know, he gets in trouble with his agency, which
is called Civil By the way, Vanessa E. Williams plays

(12:07):
my mom, and I also want to talk about my boy, Yeah,
Alan Payne, my boy, Allan Payne plays my father you
know in it. So I'm surrounded by great, incredible actors.
But yeah, I did my due diligence, and also I
really wanted to bring the character to light because he

(12:28):
struggles with I think a lot of things that a
lot of men go through, and that is is wanting
to have a foundational relationship with with their family, you
know what I mean. It's obviously tumultuous because I'm an assassin,
but I show that journey. I end up Bodygarden for
this very famous singer named Somaya. Shout out to Casey Gardner,

(12:52):
a new actress that's going to be on the scene,
and shout out to DAIJ. Lib Ray. But it's gonna
be something to watch, so look for that All Black
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 8 (13:02):
That's got to be tough, though, when you are a
person who practices mindfulness the way you do, Yeah, to
get into a person who's dealing with so much, it
is how did you get out of get out of character?

Speaker 5 (13:14):
I made certain ticks, you know, for the character, and
I also, you know, lend myself to it, so it
was never in a negative way. You know, there are
certain scenes where you know, I, without giving away too
much of the story, there are certain scenes where I
had to like really dig deep beyond myself and do

(13:35):
the research, like, you know, how would I feel if
I killed someone? You know, what would I feel?

Speaker 4 (13:42):
You know?

Speaker 5 (13:43):
And because I've you know, stitched out the character so well,
I'm able to kind of say, okay, this is the
difference between me and him. You know, now I can
take him off and I can be myself. So little
stuff like that my wardrobe, the way I looked, I
looked differently.

Speaker 8 (13:58):
So do you have boundaries for as far as far
as how far you'll go as an actor?

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Like how far you how deep you go?

Speaker 5 (14:05):
I haven't found any yet. I haven't found any yet.
I think the only maybe challenge would be like cutting
my hair, Yeah, because you know, my hair is sacred
to me. It's something that is spiritual for me too,
my spiritual antennas. So that's like, uh, I went out
for a bunch of different roles. Actually I went out

(14:28):
for a Sammy Davis Junior row. That was a conversation.
That was a conversation. That was a tough one, just
because I feel like, to a degree, you know, you
don't want to lose yourself in certain characters. You know,
you're playing a character for three months. It really does
become who you are. So I'm very mindful that that's

(14:48):
probably my only challenge.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
But there's wigs.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
You put all that under wigs, now you can't.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
You can wrap this thing up.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
You feel me padded down. It's some real profect in
this game.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Trust me.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yo.

Speaker 8 (15:02):
That's interesting, man, because I wonder what's more important nowadays,
your personal or your professional because it's only like you said,
it's only three months. Yeah, but then I got to
live the rest of my life and I'm the one
that got to deal with this.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Exactly Is it worth it? I don't know, you know.
I think I think for some people it depends on
the check, you know. And for a person like me,
I think it it depends on the story. It depends
on where I am and if I really do feel
like it is my duty as as an actor to
tell this story. So I think it's some factors, you

(15:32):
know what I mean. But I'm very like connected with
myself spiritually, and my hair is a is an identity,
you know, for for myself.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
So what's the spiritual connection with your hair?

Speaker 5 (15:44):
Just your intennas? You know. I think when you see
people that grow hair, you know that it takes time.
Anytime you see any elders that have long hair, you know,
you respect them automatically because you know it's a process.
And also I come from a hair family, so you know,
having healthy here has always been just you know, mandatory.

Speaker 9 (16:03):
So you look down on ball people, nah, because I
am filically challenged. None of this, you know, people, there
is no Actually it's certain ball people you just don't
want to mess with, you know what, So disrespect.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Now.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
I want to get into R and B music. What's
your thoughts on R and B music now?

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Right?

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Growing up, there was always R and B groups.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Right, whether it was white or black, whether it's New
Addition or Pretty Ricky or B two K or whoever
may be voiced.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Man, you don't see that now?

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Why is that? And why do you think that is?
What's your thoughts on R and B music today?

Speaker 5 (16:45):
I think that R and B music is an ever
evolving changing you know, just like all genres of music,
you know, country coming back. I feel like it goes
through a type of evolution. I think R and B
is is is definitely rearing its head back in the
sentimental and expressive way that we talk about our emotions.

(17:08):
You know, that's why I loved R and B. I
loved R and B because you know, there was this
sentiment that you know, if it was your ice box,
you know, representing your heart, these metaphors that kind of
allow men to express themselves. So I feel like it's
it's in a it's in a dope state. Like one
of my favorite songs out right now is Mutt by Leon,

(17:31):
So it's like when people like him and you know,
some other new artists that you know, have really put
the time in to express their emotion. I feel like
it's it's going.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Back a specifically groups.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Okaymore, do you think people don't want to put the
time and energy and effort into it anymore?

Speaker 1 (17:46):
They want to quick turn around?

Speaker 5 (17:48):
No, I think I think I think it's that that's
a factor. And I also feel like I don't know
if there's I haven't seen a lot of people banded
together outside of like hip hop and gangs, you know
what I'm saying, Like it's not I'm pretty sure there's
some out there, but not at the forefront yet, And

(18:08):
I feel like that time, you know, maybe within a
year or two, we'll probably see some some really dope groups.
But it's just like I think everybody also to have
the expectation that at some point in time they'll break up,
you know. So I think that there is a brotherhood,
a type of brotherhood you have to kind of display, and.

Speaker 7 (18:25):
That does take a lot of time, right, I mean,
like even like because what you can do solo, it
would take what ten times long in the door with
the group because that's like one band, one sound, y'all
have to get on one accorder exactly all a linearman is,
you know, all of that. So that did it took
a lot of time. It did with making music with
B TWOK as supposed to doing it yourself.

Speaker 8 (18:43):
Yeah, yeah, can you can you have a great group
or maybe even a great R and B singer without
artist development.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
I feel like that's what's missing from the game.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
That is missing from the game. Yeah, And I will
say that is the reason why, you know, for us,
you know, when I was in the group, that we
had the run that we had because we spent so
much time together. We had one common goal, you know,
we were focused on one thing, and it's so hard,
you know, after success to kind of keep that path.
So it is a little bit more difficult unless it's

(19:12):
like family. But even family, you know, family fight too,
you know what I mean. So yeah, I think it
is you know, about developing something, and I would love
to do that in the future, you know, if I
ever had an opportunity to, you know, bring a group
to the forefront, you know what I mean. I feel
like that's what's missing too. It's just like having elders,
having people that have gone through certain experiences is like,

(19:36):
you know, some of the Wayians, you know, they don't
have big homies, you know, they don't have people that
could be like, I'm going through this, you know what
do you think? I can't wait for the game to
get back to that place.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
And also, you know what we jacked Edge was here.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, they were talking about people don't sing to the
vagina anymore.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, they don't.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Ask, they don't at me like that talking, they don't
beg anymore.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Yeah, the vagina has.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Changed genetically modified.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah, the vaginant has changed changed. Yeah. I feel like,
you know, you know, there's this thing called soft girl era,
you know what I mean, And I don't know, it's
just I feel like it's so materialistic, you know what
I mean, Like in order to really you know, swoon

(20:39):
a woman. You have to really find a particular type
and you have to appeal to her, you know, differently
than you maybe had to appeal to her generally speaking
back in the day, you know what I mean. So
I would say it's it's different, you know, how you
can wake up those senses. It depends on the woman,
you know what I mean. Because some women will not
be turned on by a nice guy, you know, I mean,

(21:00):
some women get turned on by assholes and people who
are disrespectful and call them out their names. Some women
are really just into that, you know what I mean.
Some women you know, vagina only get wet with money,
you know what I mean. So, yeah, I think I
think it's a little bit different than you have to
be more specific if you really want to entice a woman,

(21:22):
you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Lyrically, doesn't that require us to vibrate? Idle?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
And what I mean by.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
That if a woman is only used to eating fast food,
but yeah, you know, she's out the country and she
eat a real fruit and you're like, damn.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
In Jamaica, you know, so don't require us to vibrate.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
I agree, I agree, that's that's the tip I'm on,
you know, I mean outside of being mature and having
my experiences, you know, really uh, just being able to
have a good conversation, you know, and in depth conversation.
Somebody asked me the other day, like, what are some
of the questions that I asked on you know, a
first gathering. I don't call them dates gathering gathering, yeah,

(22:02):
because I think a date carries a certain level of expectation,
you know, whether that be a place or whether that
be a price budget, you know what I mean. I
think a gathering kind of keeps it on a very
just non assuming, low level expectation. And really, when you're
getting to know somebody, you don't need much, you know,
you just need conversation and great questions, you know what

(22:25):
I'm saying, and nice ambiance. So yeah, from my first gatherings,
you know, I asked very serious questions, you know, like,
you know, what is your purpose in life? You know
what I mean, You're just going to.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Jump straight out.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
What you're going to do to a baby?

Speaker 2 (22:54):
That's a great question.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Do you know what you're doing baby?

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Do you have another experience? But yeah, questions like that.

Speaker 8 (23:03):
But I think you set the tone because they see you. Oh,
so they see you on Instagram, they see how you've
grown in the ball, they see what you on so
they feel like they got to be there too. I
would think, yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I definitely have my own personal
challenges as well, because again, you know, we are a
vibration of people, you know what I mean. So sometimes
things can look good on the outside, but then once
you really get into it, you're like, oh, there's some
there's some things you have to fix that I can't
help you with, you know what I mean. So I
always give myself room. I say that my timeline is

(23:35):
like two years. I give myself two years with the
person to really figure out if I'm you know, going
to continue with them. You know, I mean I got
to see their family, I gotta see their best friends,
and we actually have to go through something to see
if you can be in my life.

Speaker 8 (23:49):
It would have been turned off by a woman's trauma
because you can't be a person here.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. I think particularly women
that drink that overdrink, you know what I mean, it's
really hard because as they masket with the drink, you know,
in a good time, you're never able to really see
you know what I mean. Like, so fasting is a
part of uh, you know, being with me too.

Speaker 8 (24:10):
Has that ever been too much for a woman as
a woman ever said? Look, man, I like you, but
I'm not with all of this mind stuff that you want.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
No, no, no, I don't really run into that issue.
And I don't frame it in the way. I don't
frame it in a way. It's just more so like, yo,
let's be healthy, Like I'm about to go in the
fast you want to join, you know what I mean?
There's no pressure.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
So what does the love life look like for today?

Speaker 5 (24:30):
I mean to be fair, you know, I have two
beautiful and amazing kids. And you know any parent will
tell you once you have kids, there's the love level
is just astronomical when you have kids, you know, because
they love you. They don't care what you did yesterday
and today. You know. So I'm I'm just chilling right now,
you know what I mean. I'm first generational wealth builder,

(24:51):
so I'm still focusing on continuing my legacy and building
for them. You know, I have I have a friend
of two you know what I mean. But but you
know it's nothing, it's nothing serious.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Now we've seen your love life play out on TV
a little bit. Yeah, would you ever do that again?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Have your life never again?

Speaker 5 (25:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (25:10):
Yeah, nah, I think it hurts you, will help you.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
I think of a little bit of both. Yeah. I
think in order to really transform as a man, you know,
it had to be a little painful, you know, in
order for you to change and be like ooh, I
don't want to go through that again. But yeah, I
love love and I'm definitely not a person that's like
so hurt that I can't open myself up to it.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
So is everything better with you and the mother of
your children?

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Yeah? Yeah, we're in a better place. We're in a
way better place. I mean, you know, Mega's ten, my
daughter Shill be nine March seventh, so you know they're
they're getting older. So yeah, you know, time and time
really help helps things. So yeah, we're in a better place.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Have you ever, how do you avoid trauma bonds?

Speaker 5 (25:57):
I asked questions, you know, I ask questions, and I
think that that is what you know, gives me the
foresight to know on like, okay, this person is on
that level, you know what I mean, to make sure
that I'm not And also I check in with myself
you know what I mean. And I make sure that
you know I'm dealing with whatever personal issues I handle it.

(26:18):
So that's how that's how I.

Speaker 7 (26:20):
You know, I got a extra I seen a TikTok
go viral where U I said, I was about to
say some raving Simone has said, uh, she was pregnant
by you a long time ago, in the younger days
when that happened.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
So this is you know, the intern is a wild place.
So if you look at the regular the normal interview,
the regular interview that they did, someone edited and they
and they had her saying that because what happened was
she was saying on set that you know, they have
this certain level of expectation, and people thought that she

(26:54):
was pregnant with my child she was. Yeah, so she
didn't actually say that. Okay, yeah, she didn't say.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
That was all speculation and everything.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
I've never been in the room but naked with her,
you know what I mean. So yeah, but we did
live in the same apartment complex when we were younger.
There was this complex back in the day. All of
the entertainer kids stayed there.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
So yeah, really.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Yeah, it was like a conflict with all like yeah,
I mean everybody that was making money. Really, Yeah, everybody
lived there. Three O W lived there, Raving Simone, A
bunch of actors, Yeah, a whole bunch of people. Who's
in the studio city.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Like a TV show.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
Before the TV show. Yeah, it was pretty good fun
going to the gym and seeing whoever. Okay, you're working
out today?

Speaker 4 (27:44):
What time was?

Speaker 3 (27:44):
He was applying a little bit of pressure on the alnga.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I saw her this weekend.

Speaker 8 (27:52):
I didn't see a present, but I saw her on
Instagram at beautiful.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
Oh, she's beautiful. I would love to work with her.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I'd love to teach you how to dance.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
I would love to work with her.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Have you ever really shot your shot?

Speaker 5 (28:08):
No? Actually, after that moment, we were at like a
party and she was occupied, so yeah, no, I didn't
get the chance to look at her in her eye.
We're both scorpios, so I'm not sure what the energy
would be like. But yeah, she was to catch the
eye context. Yeah, no, she's she's a beautiful woman. And
then you know, also, I don't know. I don't know
how young her son is, but I don't know how

(28:31):
I don't know how young she goes. I don't know
how exciting. She wants her life to be long.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
You know, I don't know. Fifty five, maybe fifty one.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I don't think.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
I don't know the longer I got.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta look it up. But yeah, you know,
I'm not afraid to learn what is your he got
every end?

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, fifty four, that's not even old.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
Yeah, th' too old for you?

Speaker 7 (28:58):
Fifty four, Na, not when it's nie along, not when
it's knee along, because I know some other fifty four
is Yeah, yeah, I said, I said.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
My age cut off would be like forty seven, you
know what I mean. But a young, a young fifty
a young fifty five, Yeah, I would definitely you know
what I mean, have a gathering.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
They're all killing the young girls, by the way, facts
along the Angela facets of the world. They killing facts
as facts.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
I would love to, you know, get in and get
into their mental state, you know what I mean, because
they are women that kind of stay away and they
only pop out when it's time to. So I would
love to like have a conversation and see where their
mind are.

Speaker 8 (29:41):
But you know, they only accept in honesty. They're old
and they don't got time for the.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
Love I lead with that, you know what I mean that,
You know, being a young man and leading with honesty
is like a double edged short because you know, some
some younger people are just not prepared for that, you
know what I mean. But older women they don't care.
I don't care about that.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
So that's why you.

Speaker 8 (30:02):
Like that Leon Thomas record, because he's being so honest
he is. Have you ever had to say that this
is somebody just let him know straight up, like, look,
I'm not trying to.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Down I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
I wouldn't frame it like that like I'm a dog
on a mutt. But yeah, yeah, I definitely anytime I'm
you know, involved with a woman, I let them know.
You know, I'm not a traditional man. I'm not someone
who subscribes to specific titles, you know what I'm saying.
I like to create what, you know, what I want

(30:33):
to call whatever it is that we make.

Speaker 6 (30:35):
So, yeah, do you say grand Rising or good morning?

Speaker 5 (30:38):
I say the Rise is grand, the rise grand baby? Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:48):
Okay, So what what is your relationship going back?

Speaker 7 (30:50):
What is your relationship now with B two K with
the rest of with the other three because it's not
it's technically not B two K anymore?

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Is it.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
I mean, I always will you know, my group, my foundation,
and you know where I come from. Uh As far
as personally, you know, we don't really have a relationship, No,
not not really. You know. I will say that Bud
did come to one of my shows and we chopped
it up, you know, So there'll always be a type

(31:20):
of love there. You know, we we grew up together,
and you know we we did something in all of
our lives that no one in our lives did, you
know what I mean? So I think that there's always
an honor system there, you know, not to speak negatively ever,
and it just be like, yeah, you know that was that.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
Did you guys know each other before the group started?
Or you guys were brought together as the group?

Speaker 5 (31:44):
We were brought together as the group. Yeah. The first
time I met them, it was at a New Year's
Eve party and they performed and I performed, and it
was like you want to be the lead singer? And
I was like yeah, so so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
And what about you and Marcus Houston? Are y'all close
or no?

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Got you?

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yeah? I don't know why we thought y'all was real
brothers that.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Everyone you know, that was our thing that was our
thing back then, you know what I mean. Anybody that
was a part of the camp was found. You know,
it's like, oh that's my cousin, you know what I'm saying.
But yeah, no, real blood time.

Speaker 8 (32:18):
You were one of the few people who probably experienced
real celebrity, right because I don't feel like there's real
celebrity no more. That's true, Like y'all had to like.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Run from crowds, be ducked off in disguise. Yeah, how
did that feel?

Speaker 4 (32:34):
And was it hard when you weren't feeling it anymore? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (32:37):
No, I felt like it was amazing. You know, it
was amazing to you know, look back on what there
was sometimes where you know, I think Bull got hurt,
he got lifted up into a crowd. It was like dangerous,
you know what I mean, because five little strong girls
is stronger than the biggest man, you know what I mean.
But looking back on that time and having it, you know,

(32:58):
be a part of my experience as far as the
organ you know, energy between you and your fans was amazing,
and when it changed, it changed not just for me,
for everyone, you know. I think you still have a
little bit of a fandom still today. But it's viewed different.
It's almost like are you okay? Why are you screaming?

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Are you okay?

Speaker 5 (33:17):
You know, I still I still receive that love. You know,
no matter where I'm at on the planet, people still
come up to me and be like, wow, my childhood.
Can I take a picture with you? So I always appreciate,
you know, the influence that I've had on people's life
experience through music, through movies, through So yeah, I don't
feel no way about it. You know, I definitely feel like,

(33:38):
you know, a sort of an elder on the scene,
you know what I mean, that has had all the experiences.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
So it's just different when you got that when you
were a child.

Speaker 8 (33:47):
That's what I guess that kid, you know what I mean,
Like they act different, yeah, than everybody else period.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
And those fans are still with me to today. I'm
so thankful for those fans that stuck with me because
we're able to put on the Millennium Tour. We're able
to you know, bring that nostalgia back on the planet, which,
by the way, before the Millennium Tour, you know that
wasn't the show, That wasn't the you know, the set
list for you know, all of these productions, you know
what I mean. To have a little bit nostalgia in

(34:15):
your production, you know, is a great thing.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Tell us the craziest story as a child what Charlmonne
was talking about, right, We always hear about the Michael
Michael Jackson story, people waiting in the airport for for
days weeks. What was the craziest story that you remember
as a child.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
And a girl being in our room before we got there,
you know, the security would have to like check the room.
I always thought that was weird because you know, nobody room.
How would they girls sitting in there crouching down as
soon as we walk and we're like, oh.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
Room, or it was a.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Green room and then all my personal room. One of
the workers just let themselves in and I was like
half sleep and I woke, like what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (34:59):
It was a girl.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
It was trying together and she was like, hey, she
was trying to gather. I'm like, wow, I'm sleep, No
what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Though?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
You gotta go? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yeah, yeah. So that was when it was like a
little scary you as a kid. Yeah, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 8 (35:13):
When were you able to like walk around the mall
by yourself? Because I know, I know there was a
point y'all couldn't even do stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
I don't know. I don't know. I still I still don't.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I'm talking about like pandemonium riot.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Oh maybe that happened after after the group separated. Yeah,
after the group separated, it shifted, you know, because if
you walking into you know, the mall with with I
mean B t K was already four people and then
plus four security guards. It's like, you know, you in
there and you a mob, you know what I mean.
So people are like, but you know, if you want

(35:47):
to do things quickly, you go along. And that's what
I learned, you know, how to be stealthy.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
So yeah, did you find that your fans grew with you?

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Yes, that's a lot of them. I mean a lot
of them. Still, you know, you'll pop up to the
shows and come to the meet and greets and everything.
So yeah, yeah, girls I grew up with from New
York City, they know who they are, you know what
I mean, still come to my shows, got kids, got
got work, all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
So you never bring any of the kids, and they
got baby heads and you know long.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
Yeah, say what's up? To the kids kids named after me. Yeah, yeah,
kids named after me and everything like, yeah, it's it's,
it's it's. It's a few kids out there named after Omar.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
They look like kids for real.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, at the ghosts at the
meet and greets, that's what you're asking.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
Yeah, no, no, no, I haven't met any of those yet,
but I'm pretty sure that I've you know, inspired some
kids out there.

Speaker 8 (36:45):
You know, you've worked with a lot of legendary labels, Epic,
he was with Young Money for a little bit, made
Back of music. What did you learn from each one
of those experiences.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
That it's it's very important to make sure that you
create the relationship that you want. And you know, like
you said, I've dealt with so many different layers and
levels of business people. You know, at this particular time,
you know, me and my team, we're only dealing with

(37:14):
the head, you know, paulse We're dealing with the top people,
the people that are decision makers. So I think through
all of that, you know, I mean being on made
Back because you know, they were working with Atlantic, they
were you know, I won't say a subsidiary, but they
did a you know, a deal together. Yeah, joint venture,
that's what the word I was looking for. So, yeah,

(37:36):
just really dealing with the top people, that's decision makers.
That's the difference to today. Like you know, when I'm
doing business, I deal with the people that can move things.

Speaker 8 (37:44):
Do you feel like, do you feel like they realize
the full potential of O Maria any of those labels.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
I don't think they care. I don't think they care.
I don't think it's in the business's nature to care.
I think that a lot of people in the business
are you know, just you know, numbers. I think that
there's a few executives that really care about the product
and they understand that in order to really make an
intentional return, you gotta be invested for real, not just

(38:12):
on a financial level. You have to really know where
the artist wants to take it. So that's been my experienced. Now, yes,
shout out to create. I'm about to drop some new music,
you know myself and h M p K. You know
what I'm saying. We're just doing a collaborative we create.

(38:32):
So yeah, what.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
About bow Wow?

Speaker 4 (38:35):
You think you and Bowwa level do a joint album.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Again, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I feel like,
if I'm gonna do, you know, any collaboration, whether it
be rappers, singer, I feel like they have to have
like current music out, you know what I'm saying, music
that and you know, current music of the last maybe
three to three years, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,
if I'm gonna do a collaborative, it's gonna be like,

(38:59):
okay me music, we're working on new vibes.

Speaker 8 (39:02):
Why is that just because you feel like, you know,
if you made music in the last three years, you
actually care.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
You're active.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Yeah, you're active, you know what I mean, Like you
you know, what's you know as far as producers, you
know what I mean, like what does that look like?
And also I feel like you you have a like
a better shot at putting something out, you know, like visuals.
I think that today's artists like there's so many things
that you have to do in order to you know,

(39:27):
really be visible, you know what I mean. So I
will want someone that's not just you know, visible you
know on social media, but like in the music too.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
I feel like you and Leo will cook up some
ship together.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
Yeah do that would be dope?

Speaker 6 (39:39):
And you did you got serve style cameo for JT.
That was really dope. How did that come about?

Speaker 5 (39:47):
Yeah, so JT and there and the people hit me
up and they was like, you know, we got this song,
you know, and I felt like, in a way, it
was also paying homise to Fatman's school, you know what
I'm saying, rest in peace. So yeah, it was cool.
She asked me, and I was just like, I got you.
And she's such a sweetheart, you know what I mean.
So I thought that was really really dope. And I

(40:07):
wish more artists would pay homage to the generation before them,
you know, because we're still relatively young, you know what
I mean, the eighties babies. I saw a video and
it was like all these kids that were born in
two thousand and they were saying that you're old if
you're born in two thousand, and I'm like, I'm like,
so it seems like being older stops at thirty, which

(40:31):
is crazy, crazy, you know what I mean. So yeah,
I would I would definitely love to continue to do
things like that, work with, you know, some of the
younger talent in the business. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Have you ever reached out to Leon?

Speaker 5 (40:44):
No, No, not yet, but we've crossed paths yeah, we
cross paths. I love to see what he's doing, you
know what I mean, Like he's actually a child star too.
You know, he's someone that started very very young. So
to see where he's at today is just it's awesome.
I feel like that's you know, it's very rare to
see a lot of child stars continue on and continue

(41:07):
to transform. And that's what I've always loved about music
is you don't have to stop or you don't have
to essentially get old. You know, you can pick up
a you know, a flute. You know, you can pick
up an instrument, you can write, you can direct, you know,
it's so much to do in our business.

Speaker 8 (41:22):
Child styles don't go crazy like they used to. Like
there was a time where for the most part, y'all
keeping it together.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
Yeah, yeah, What do you think?

Speaker 8 (41:33):
What's the one thing you wish you knew when you
first started your career? What forty year old of Maria,
what would you tell sixteen year old Mario?

Speaker 5 (41:41):
I think about like life insurance policies, you know, trust,
you know, just certain things that you know, if you
wanted to take a break, you could, you know what
I'm saying. That's something that I feel like you know, finances.
I just I wish I would have, you know, been
given that game early on. I feel like, you know,

(42:02):
maybe I would move differently, you know, if I had that.
But you know, everything is for is for a reason.
So yeah, yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Definitely check them out on tour. Millennium Tour twenty twenty seven,
New York.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
What's today?

Speaker 5 (42:15):
We at the Barclays Marsh twenty first y'all pop out
March seventeenth, March seventeen, that's.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
What is here.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
I don't know, maybe let's changed from my city because
I know AM come out sixteenth at the Banker and
then Barclays is the next day, March seventeen.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
Oh well, excuse me, I have messed it up. Don't
listen to me.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
All right.

Speaker 8 (42:34):
I'm looking forward to the music, man, because I'm always like,
you know, brothers that are practicing mindfulness and you know,
really dealing with their emotional well being. Yeah, I like
to see how that translates in their art. Yeah, I'm
looking forward to the music.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
I'm looking forward to Wild Rolls.

Speaker 7 (42:48):
This new series come on coming in twenty twenty six
on All Blacks. So I'm looking forward to.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
That, Thank y'all. So much.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Just I know we've seen Drake beat you in the
dance battle too, and Drake had a dance battle and
Drake killed him.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
I don't believe that.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
I know, I know that, Adroid.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
I don't believe when was this at the birthday party?
Oh he was at the birthday keeping I was keeping
the light.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Lights. Give me up one.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I don't believe that it was your birthday party.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
No, it was his, Okay, all right, well it is.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
It's the Breakfast Club of Mario.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast
Club

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