Best of full interview: Ray J On Being Painted As A Villain Amid Kardashian Drama, Mario Verzuz, New Relationship + More

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Every day, Up, way up the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Finish for y'all done morning, Everybody's d J n V
Jess hilarious, Charlamagne and the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Lola Rosa is here. We got a special guest in
the building.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Somebody said that you're not live no more. You gotta
be live.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
You gotta be live.

Speaker 5 (00:22):
Oh my god, hear him say I'm not live. Reminded me.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
We live.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
You always gotta show him that we live.

Speaker 6 (00:30):
We love all we live, Ladies and gentlemen, Ray J.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Rader, she looked like your sister for years.

Speaker 7 (00:39):
Please come.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Off.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
I think and I think that, you know, the short
hair still makes it even more recognizing.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well, you know, we call her brandicak. I love that
she got the short hair.

Speaker 5 (00:52):
I've been telling them I need to do when she
do the series, come get me. I don't know what
age I could play. I'm older now, but I.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
Think you can play the young Brandy.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
But welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Ray.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
How are you feeling how you feel? You're good?

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I'm feeling good.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
You got a lot going on.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
A lot going on. Yeah, I want to I want
to make it. Really, I'm happy that this is my
platform now thank you for forgiving me the opportunity to
to to go into the holidays and the Q four correctly. Okay,
with respect and honor and love.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Well, listen, let's start with the legal stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
But legal stuff, what I thought y'all didn't want to
I thought that we couldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Why can't we?

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Oh no, oh you mean yes?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I was gonna say first and foremost, I just want
to you people don't know that what we really love you, Ray.
Thank for for for new listeners. Ray was our first
guest ever on.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
The Yes I was before I went crazy on the
rant before the Ring. I was the first guest guest
on the Breakfast Ever. I was the first guest ever.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
He was the first viral moment also on the Breakfast
Club as well. Yeah, so we got we love Ray.
We talked about Ray all the time and go to bad.
We just know what we love.

Speaker 8 (01:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I would rather you guys always talk good about me,
But that's.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Okay, But the band is on you.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
But yeah, you guys are my friends, and plus we're
all entertainers and you guys have to do what you
have to do. Charlemagne. No, sometimes I get a little emotional.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
All the time.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
And had a good heart to heart this year.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, and so sometimes because I get emotional, you know,
and but I sometimes but because we're all in our zone.
I'm a journalist as well, and so I just I
just feel a little bit like this is my personal people.
But you guys have to keep it neutralth, you know,

(02:33):
throughout you know, the day, because that's the way you're
supposed to be. So it can be one sided, because
that's not what journalism is about.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
I appreciated the phone call though, because I'm like, you know,
there's not people that's gonna be honest, and that's the
way Ray was feeling.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
But he was on my live first he was like
Charlamage's piece. Yeah, hates Charlamagne.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
I was like he said, and then we talked even
we went I called Charlemagne a lot. And there's just
times what I feel like, you know, and and this
it's not I'm not being neutral, but I feel like
sometimes y'all can have my back or you know, in
certain instances what I'm going through, just give it a

(03:10):
little more seriousness on my side.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
But but we do put we protect Ray a lot.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
But Redge got a comedian energy to where you don't
know when he's being serious.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
It was the first time we spoke and serious conversation,
but I didn't know when you're being serious. And sometimes
I laughed and I'll put on mute because I didn't
want you to feel a way. But you're just laughing
crazy because he's funny naturally, but he's really serious and
everything's like so heartfelt, so you don't want to laugh.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
But yeah, a lot of people try to hold it in.
But I'm serious. I'm serious everything that I've been going through,
it's been up and down, and everybody has their up
and down days. And I think with the streaming world
and shout out to Kai Sanat for kind of like
opening up his doors to Luther Kay, yeah, because he
really like put us really on and the stream in
a different way. And from there, when you're on your

(03:56):
streams and you're streaming twenty four hours, it's like therapy. Yeah,
you go through these therapy sessions with the chat because
nothing's bigger than the chat, and then you I don't
I don't know every time it's gonna go this viral
when I be saying certain things. So then I watch
it the next day and I'm like, oh, man, I
gotta stand on that people.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
I tell you what I love to. I love seeing
you on stage with your sister, and I love seeing
your niece with you. I love when I've seen your
real family around you. That's when you look your whole,
your whole, your whole.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
And I was so excited when I found out we
were coming up here together. I'm like, vin, this is
everything because again, I do want to turn the tides
and I do want to, you know, showcase a different
side of me because I think we've been crashing out
to the left too much. And again, everything is entertainment,
but you know, you just want to make sure you

(04:44):
kind of like guarantee to everybody that this isn't a
liability situation. Or every time I'm in the airport and
they're like, were praying for you, a J Everything's okay.
I'm like, dang, because.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
People don't know when you're crashing out and crashing out
or if you're just entertaining.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
So it's been a lot of brand for you, man,
God bless you.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Man.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
I hope you're gonna be all right because.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
People think you're on drugs, that you've got mental health issues,
but which we all deal with our own mental health issues.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Mental health is serious. And shout out to doctor Cheyenne Bryant. Yeah,
she's I mean we talk a lot and off camera
and it's always off camera, but she helps me through
certain things. And doctor Scott too out of Cleveland. Pastor
Scott helps me through some of some of the issues

(05:28):
that I'll be going through to and it helps me.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Man, what have you learned? What have you learned about yourself?

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Well, you know every day when I you got to
watch yourself. It's easy to know it when you just
watch it, and I think without adding in the trolling,
you know, it's it's just me just keeping it real.
And a lot of times people can't, I think, keep

(05:53):
it this real because there's a lot of different situations
that might be in front of them, the job, their
work space, their partners, to people that are around them
that might feel away, that's paying, you know, the bills,
whatever it is. You know, there's a lot of things
that people go through that keep them away from being
this extremely blunt. But for me, it's not like that.

(06:13):
And I think that I have to hold myself responsible
to hold some of this stuff in as we grow
and as I grow I'm getting older and I want
my niece to be proud of me, and I want
the team to be proud of me, and we can't
crash out in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
So when the public paints you is the bad guy
for years, what does that do to you mentally? How
do you protect your piece?

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Now you just turn into the bad guy? Ooh leande,
Will you not only lean into it? Because I think
that's the only thing that I think makes sense. You know,
it's almost like, you know, if if you're doing something
that's extremely believable, then it works. But if you're doing
something that's not and it might be really who you

(06:57):
really are, people don't understand it. And so it sometimes
it takes a toll to try to like, hey, I'm
going to be positive for twenty twenty six, ray J
is going to turn the new leaf. He's gonna be
a good person. But that's who I am internally, no
matter what. So when the character comes out, if it

(07:17):
gets over the top and it's the impressions are up,
you know, the the profits are up, you know what
I mean, the numbers are up, then it makes sense.
But but then on the other side, you know, there's
a negative side to that too, with whatever comments people
are putting in. I don't read any comments or nothing,
but overall, just I really want my family to be

(07:39):
proud of me, and they want me to show a
different side of myself. You know what I mean that
I don't really show, and so I'm up for it
and I want to do it for twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Because ray J's sober. Now, last time you were up here,
you was playing with the little lead. But you look thinner,
you look clearer, So I'm assuming not anymore with the lean.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yes, yeah, no, not the lean.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
It's certain things are bad, are bad, and I think
you don't even know.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Last time you was up here, you know me and
schelling me dumped out and act like it was really there.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
It wasn't there, And that's what that's where That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Might be dumped it out. You don't think we love you.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
It's okay, okay, now very expensive so it.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Was just.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
But no again, you have to have self control eventually
over time, because if you have the option to make
mistakes and just and it works, the mistakes work, then
you find yourself in a weird position because crashing out works,

(08:53):
So how do you balance that with you know, just
being level in life? And sometimes for me it just
gets com and everything just becomes blank and it always
just gives real blurry right now.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
It's better when you say it works, though, because you know,
when you think about Raycon Tronics, you've built these hundred
million dollar businesses. To me, that's working.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
They we're crashing out is just a tension online that's
not really working.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
But it does work. It does work for impressions, It
does work for certain skills. When you're doing Snapchat or
you're doing Twitter, or you're doing Instagram, or you're doing
Twitch and you're running you know, fifteen ads an hour
and you want your CPM to be solid, right, and
you're running them at night in late night, and you
want those to work as well. So I think it

(09:41):
all works if you're looking at it from a really
scientific level. And I think a lot of people don't
think we look at it like that, but we do.
But enough is enough at some point, right, And I
don't know when it is. I don't know when enough
is enough because I'm like, enough's enough now, But I'm like,
is it an I'm just saying I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Two days ago.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Because when people when people hire me to do a
job and I come and I go, yo, what do
you guys want.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Me to do?

Speaker 4 (10:10):
They're like, do what you do, not too much, but
do what you do so not too much. Tells me, okay,
you want me to do what ray J does. And again, balance, prayer,
support more than anything is what matters. And I feel
like throughout this whole grind, there hasn't like the support

(10:32):
system for ray J is very minimal. But it's okay.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
So you're changing a new leaf now because two days ago,
you call Mario gay I called Mario.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
I know, I said, I never seen Mario with a woman,
but I love Mario and I'm sure he has women.
And I'm sorry, mart I'm so sorry exactly so I
made a mistake.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Also, you said while they was, you know, you said
the hospitality of his show and pretty much called him
a sucker.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
I'm sorry while I for that as well, and I
want to extend my apology to La Mario. He did
a great job with Brandy. I appreciate Brandy for having
my back. She said I needed to just slow down
on all the extracurricular things that I do on the side,
and I would be able to compete, so you no
longer want to battle him in the verses in a
versus what they had the main stage, they were headlining

(11:20):
the verses, and then we did the beginning of the verses,
and all together collectively it was a successful disaster.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
I told Mario that he didn't let you on stage
because he was afraid.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Of I'm telling you because I was on the side.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
He was just here.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
So I see Mario on the side of the stage,
I walk up to him. Were in Baltimore or we know,
we in d C.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
And we got let's hear Mark. We got Mark.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Okay, Mario, even if he said something bad, God bless him.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
He's here.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
He's here like we had him in the closet.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Just wait, I just today, Sarah's here, and you know,
Sheila's here, and the whole team.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Is king Cooper.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Don't hide, don't you can't Coop?

Speaker 4 (12:11):
You got I hit I hit me and said, wow,
you have my back for one time.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I said, I said.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I know you have j M, but you haven't had
it for a few times.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Something Mario said. You ain't let him on that stage.
What was going to happen.

Speaker 9 (12:28):
Yeah, you said I didn't let him on, wanted to
do not there. You can ask Rayje what happened backstage.
I was like, Yo, let's do it, Let's make it happen.
He was like, nigga, shrink me. Just just I don't
care what you do, just don't just just make it happen.
I'm like, I don't even know he was gonna be there.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Bad, I got you. They didn't let him on stage.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
It wasn't me, that's not story. Story was.

Speaker 9 (12:49):
I wanted to do the verses right the so Mario
was out of all people you trust Regie's story.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Damn Mario, that's not okay. I saw Mario behind this stage,
and when they said Mario's here, I'm like, no way,
this is a coincidence. It's perfect for us to do
what we gotta do. I didn't know because somebody, well
my management said Wile wanted ray J to come out

(13:17):
for a homecoming event or whatever, and I'm like, I'm
doing the DMV Baltimore suba than anyway, let's go up there.
I didn't talk to Walle or none of them, so
I didn't know really who invited me I ended up backstage.
They said, Mario's upstairs. I said, let's go find him.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
We went up.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
I said, Mario, what's up? He said, what's up?

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Ray J?

Speaker 4 (13:34):
I said, what's up? I said, it's time. I said,
you're about to get on stage and then I need
to battle you with my song. I said, Bro, even
if I lose gota, we gotta do it, he said,
And I promise you give me five minutes to think
about it. And I go five minutes to think about it.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
So then he.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Goes down and then I go down. Ten minutes later
he's performing, so he didn't give me the five minutes.
He's just like shaded me on that end. And so
I was standing on the side of the stage waiting
for Mike, and they start directing me off like traffic,
like with the car, like ray J, come on this way,
go that way, and I'll get the hell out of here.
And I was just like, yeah, it was crazy to

(14:13):
kick you out. They didn't kick me out, but they
kind of just told me to get off because they
they was like, we don't want no problems here.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
What ray J? Was it was it this ray J?
Or was it? It was this?

Speaker 4 (14:23):
It was this ray J. My eyes was really wide
and I was ready to get on stage. Okay, they go,
we don't want those problems here, come on, and I
just was like, all.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
Right, Mario, ever look over and see you like you
know that you're on a stage.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
What you could see he.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
Didn't want no problems at that point because I knew
that DC, which is one of my favorite cities in
the world. I love DC. Shout out to Kathy Hughes,
shout out to d C. I wanted it so bad,
but they they didn't. They didn't let it happen. So
I respected. I was a little mad, but I think
after that night I started to go, you know what,
maybe I'm a little mad too much. I need to

(15:00):
switch up from the cost of egos to maybe Tito's.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
How many that you got? I say three in the possible.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
It just depends on where you are. Like, I think
that the the the verses for no limit and cash
money should have been.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
In New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Absolutely, it would have been a whole nother thing.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
So where does J's versus take place?

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Ray J's versus?

Speaker 5 (15:20):
If you have the perfect setting in Baltimore and Baltimore okay, yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
It's hometown's hometown because I love I love Mario and
I love Baltimore. You know, I think doing it in
LA wouldn't be fair because now I'm doing songs that
Mario might not have even heard and they still live
and they still platinum.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
You know, what song do you lead with? Like what's
your number?

Speaker 10 (15:39):
One?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
The song that I.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Lead with is one wish No at the Gate one
because I got a new gospel version.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
That's dope. You should be allowed to do one wish
three times, three different ways. You you're supposed to get
three wishes, so so it should be more than one wish.
So one wish than you do laugh, then you can
know one wish. Afro beats yep, kill them.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
I think one wish five times.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Then sexy can I.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
I said, this is what I said. I said, let
me love you is not bigger than one wish.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
You should let me love.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
I love one wish. I love to see performance, but
I do think what's the metrics that love you is bigger?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
But you can look it up, you can see well.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
But then also also taking the account I'm one thousand
percent independent, like there's there's no there's no like there's
no catch distribution on this one. There's no epic distribution
on this one. This is just straight sanctuary and rayg
a three percent like deal within ninety seven percent US.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Forever, Sexy Can, I Sexy Can.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Sexy Cannot is bigger than let Me Love You to Me.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Hit it first is a possible.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Hit it first, it's not okay, you can do hit
it first, well, hit it first never really big record.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
People know that record.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
That's crazy because it never really saw the light of day.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
And I want you to know that those two right
there said that Mario would wash you in a verse.
I don't know why he's not keeping.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
That, and I think so Honestly, I don't think that
you listen, I think so too.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I think you got five joys.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I think.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Mario can sing live as hell for your niece.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
At one Mario only got one joy.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Love you just a friend, braid hair the joy with Gucci.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
I love you, and I love that. Brandy supported me too,
But she also said, Ray gotta you know, do right
in order to compete, because Mario is a serial singer.
He's a serial singer, and I respect that, and I
think that in a versus live right now Mario a crushman.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I'm I'm glad you and your sister got back on
the I love being How did that happen?

Speaker 4 (17:49):
We always been on the same page. I think just
publicly it was just you know, she brought me out
at the concert, but I was just every time I
get around bed and my mom and Sarah, I just
get real emotional.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Man, and you sten up. You don't act like you
act anywhere else with them.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
I'm sure, yeah, no, And I think that it's just
enough is enough. And I'm so happy that Raro's here
today because it just it makes me do better no
matter what, because I know my mom is watching and
my dad and Brandy and so like, I'm like, I'm
really a comedian. We really are in like like this

(18:25):
Richard Pryor, like Red Fox for a mat of comedy
where it's uncut right, and if everybody took it like that,
I think it'd be better. But for the seriousness of
what it is, I just I don't want to let
them down moving forward, and I just want to do right.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
How can we come out during the show. How can
we didn't sing during the show because everybody.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Was expected one wish at least well, Brandy and Monica
wanted me to do what you know, they wanted to
get my idea, and I just said, for the first one,
for just let me just come out and go up
and down. That's just for me to just say hi,
because I don't want to I don't want to get hype.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
You can shut it down. I didn't wish Wait a minute.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Well, I just didn't want to do anything wrong, sexy
can I want to.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
Wish you so you guys had just got back to
that point of you've been coming out with her and
you just didn't want to mess it up.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah, Like I just just wanted to just just make it,
just make it peaceful, you know. And shout out to
Usher's mom too, because I seen her. We all took
a picture of my mom Usher's mom Brandy, and she
was like, I want to talk to you too, because
it seemed like she has something on her mind to
tell me. But it never happened. But I hope it
does because I was curious on what she was gonna say.
But I'm just you know, I'm in a listening mode.

(19:43):
You I mean, I'm not in healing mode, but I
just I want to do the right thing.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
What did one music fest? Did one music fest make
you want to get back on stage?

Speaker 5 (19:58):
And why didn't give you a stage?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah? Why weren't you on the stage at one music No?

Speaker 4 (20:03):
I was you started. I was on stage with RSVP.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Oh okay, okay, RSVP.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
I told him all to come down now. I had
on a Blinciaga's sweat jumpsuit. It was hot, so I
poured it down and then it became like a dress
or whatever, right yep. And then I had the boots
from t MoU. I just got them a couple of
days before. It was like twelve ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Dope, And.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
I just don't know what else happened. I thought I
did a good job. I think you served your core audience,
served your core audience.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Do you think he did a good job, niece.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
She probably didn't see the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
I just saw clips. To me, it was seeing barryon brand.
To me, I was like raised, raised, one of the
greatest entertainers walk in the face of the earth. He
was out there entertainer.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
I felt that way, but it didn't look that way.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
It looked a little different.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
You want to get in shape and get you.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Know, like what everybody keeps saying. I'm the only like
person with a belly and a six pack.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
That's what they kept saying. Yes, they did so because.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Because you know what, I hold my kids like this.
I don't hold them like this, so my belly's out
and then naturally just kind of But if I just
sucked it in, everything will be good. But I think that, yeah,
but I do want to go to the gym.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
You know, have you heard his new record, Striper Bowl
Scrippleriple Bowl is Lit?

Speaker 5 (21:28):
No, that's crazy, No, I but.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
The record is a dope record. But coming from ray
J sounds a little crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Why because he throws a lot of bitches out there,
a lot of my bitch at this house, my bitch
at the house.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
But the record is the record. My niece is lit,
she's grown. The record is do she looked at you
like I'm older?

Speaker 5 (21:48):
I just want to be respectful grown.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
No, I mean, come on, lip, But the record is dope.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
But why do you go that way in your record?

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Because you know, you said you want to get back
with your wife and have your family together, But then
in that record you I got a bitch of thiscipend
house and I gotta pitch in this house.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I got a bitch here, I got a bitch here.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
Guys, all right, that's a valid question the record.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Let me let me, let me, let me.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Let me. Let me tell you, guys.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
You guys have gotten. You guys have gotten. You guys
are the greatest of all time. I mean you guys. Yes,
I know, hold on, hold on, you guys gonna play
for It's going crazy in the club. The speakers, Yeah,
I can't do it. The speakers envy.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
And go.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
I just want to suck a friend as what I
set for silver. I'm gonna get the gold. Niggas fall
in love the bitches on the I'll be fucking all
the dings and like the striper bowl. Lets you go,
nigga got so hot. I'm sweating in dunking on these niggas.
Off the pick and roll.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
I'll be off Mikelo, Mikelo.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
I love the Nickel Ultra.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
I make one hundred thousand dollars every twenty four.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Yeah, I'll be on my tippy toe.

Speaker 8 (23:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Chack Jordan's going sickle mode and they be bounce the
ass like a six six.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Miami A little bit, just a little bitch.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
I just hitn't go.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Let's go. The fact you don't have T paint on
this is trade. Yeah that because the pain is all
over twitch now you want to have.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
T paint on this hit pain that Yeah, Yo, hit
maker said he gonna do the remix with pain and
Ross and and and he got this idea. So for
the remix, that'll go crazy, shout out the truth and
then I have a clean version coming to what's the
clean The record is the Cleaners is just without all
of the curse words because at first when you knew it,
it just don't have it's no song. You're gonna play

(23:54):
an envy with the clean I like the record.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
The record is though it's a club record. I heard
the record. I'm like the regular.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Do you still have sex with scrippleers? I do?

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Yeah, Okay, I do, I do here and there, But
I'm not. I'm really not a sexy hoolic at all. Yeah,
I just I'm very focused right now. So Sheila tell you, like,
shout out to Sheila on the Love Cabin. We got
the show on zeus crazy.

Speaker 11 (24:17):
They got chat that what questions y'all got fort got
a lot to get to, Yea, Sheila, you gotta come.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
I gotta understand, and then we got to make sure
we gotta make sure we get tourrib here too.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
Yes, for sure.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
After this, like in another and another and another. Yeah,
in another segment, you won't come in this segment, not this.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
And what's crazy is that I saw you make I
saw on Shade Room you had this young lady crying.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
She was crying.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
I'm not gonna lie. It was a part of me.
I was like, that's kind of playing just a little bit,
what mad cry, Just a little bit, just just the way,
just the way, because once again I can't tell when
ray J being serious, like he's entertaining.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
That it was just all about the chat.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
It wasn't.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
No, she wasn't.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
So y'all are in are you going?

Speaker 8 (25:08):
What is.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
You know?

Speaker 4 (25:11):
If you do you do to Mike Sheila, Yeah, shout
out to sus and shout out to Lemmy. Shout out
to the Zeus network. They even they've powered us up
man to go even further, even with tronics, and I'm
looking forward to it. Shout out to Lemmy. He sees
a new vision for even tronics and what we're doing
as a whole in reality, so so.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Sheila, you're holding Reggie and til he goes back to
his family. How does that feel? That is crazy?

Speaker 12 (25:36):
You know what?

Speaker 8 (25:37):
Let me say this, ray J and I are really
good friends, you know.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
And you're looking good today.

Speaker 7 (25:44):
Sheila, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I may cry, I may not, but are you more
than friends? Are y'all?

Speaker 8 (25:49):
We're really good friends.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
What were you crying over?

Speaker 8 (25:52):
You can do what you want with that information.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Sheila was crying because she couldn't be on the on
the front desk and the back down was where her
office was with Clark and they were doing their streams.
I thought you was to family, but that wasn't what
she was crying for. Yeah, so what she was crying
for because I was like, yo, I'm on the front desk.
You have to do this desk and you can work

(26:15):
your way up to the front desk, but right now
this is my chat. You have your chat, Clark has
his chat.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
She's so scared you're gonna fall from him. And then
he you know, you get connected and he leaves for
goes back to his family.

Speaker 12 (26:27):
No, not necessarily. You know, that wasn't my first time
I cried. I was like probably my fourth time crying.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Well, because she well, and I really I respect everybody
that cry, some people and I don't. I don't know
people's water base, right, but some people cry more than others.
So she cries a lot, just even when she's happy
or sad.

Speaker 8 (26:54):
Right, I mean, I'm a cancer, y'all to cancer as
much as me.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I'm all like I do, but not a lot.

Speaker 12 (27:02):
But you understand, like I'm like you, I don't see
you as June cancer. You know what June twenty six.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Oh yeah, I'm twenty nine.

Speaker 8 (27:10):
Okay, okay, okay, So so you kind of understand where
I'm coming from.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
The first time you cry it was about the or
the last time we saw it was the desk. What
were the other issues that.

Speaker 12 (27:18):
We I honestly cry about anything like if if he
tells me he doesn't like my hair, I'll cry, like
it's just I.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Love your hair. I'm just I love your hair now
and I love your hair yesterday.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, So where do you want us to go?

Speaker 3 (27:37):
What?

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Because Pete, that's the chat to ask, like, where do
you want this relationship to go?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Do you want it to be serious? You wanted to
take it?

Speaker 7 (27:42):
This is a relationship, Yeah, for sure, this is a relationship.

Speaker 8 (27:46):
This great. Uh, this is a really good friendship. It's
a good.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Start to Ray said, we go together because once you
bok ugly, it goes to another world.

Speaker 8 (28:00):
We're really good friends, right.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Absolutely, But Love Cabin is going crazy in all new
episodes Sunday on.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Zeus run your knees though.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Well, this is the first time they ever been well,
they actually got into a spat before when they didn't
know each other, and they haven't worked it out yet.
But we're gonna work it out. We're gonna hold on,
We're gonna, We're gonna. They had they got into an
argument at a club when I wasn't there, and so
they didn't know each other, and.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I haven't walked up like she was family, like, yo,
what's up?

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Well no, no, no, it was something they she didn't
know that was my knees, and so they had got
into it and I'm like, yo, that's my knees, and
so I want everything to be at peace. I'm turning
a new leaf.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
I got all money on right.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Well, yeah, we wouldn't even do that because that's my
little niece and I love her so much and I
love everything that she's doing with her career.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
And mean your family. Your family said they don't like somebody?
Is it the energy?

Speaker 4 (28:59):
I just we all got to sit down after this,
well after the breakfast club. I think we're all going
to go and have lunch.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
Breakfast I got she.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
Says she got more president, So you expect this to
go somewhere then if she because I thought the show
was like, you're helping other people find love, you find
the love to this is about.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
This is about love cabin, the love cabin. You don't
know how it's gonna the like the last like twelve
episodes are going to go crazy.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
You're not supposed to get high off your own supply.
If she is, if she is a test and she's.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Beautiful, well, well you got to understand Ray J as
a host on this show is a different host. He's
a he's a dirtier host than most, but he's he's
very curious and he invites himself into the competition.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Shine your product.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
This is a different hosting gig trying to.

Speaker 8 (29:51):
Find love as well.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
But are you are you fine with that that he's
you know, finding, you know, tasting his product.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
You're not the only ones with you.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Well, if you watch, well, if you watched the last episode.
I was kissing Athena, which was a kissed you. She
kissed me, which was amazing, kissed you.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
So it's okay that you're not the only one you
find with that.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
What do you what do you mean like that, I'm
not the only one in regards.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
To in regards to what J puts his penis.

Speaker 12 (30:19):
Well, like I said, Ray and I were really good friends,
and whatever he decides to do with his penis.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Is well here.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
So my niece is here, so we got to keep
penis out. I'm sorry, you just got to keep just
saying no, no, no, no. But I'm saying but still
uncle and penis is a lot.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
She's laughing.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
I just don't want to do that, like, let's.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Do just loving Brandy's watching this.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
How do you my mom as well?

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Sorry? Mom?

Speaker 7 (30:53):
Have you met his mom?

Speaker 5 (30:54):
To have you met Raj's mom and.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
She and you shouldn't? Ray, that's that's doing too much?

Speaker 7 (31:02):
Why is why?

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Why do you say that you can't come on?

Speaker 8 (31:05):
I mean it might feel a little soon.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Well, I think I think they can meet on this
because she's one of the stars of Love Cabin. So
we're on an extreme Love Cabin promo.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Tour, business meeting, passing like business.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, like right now, we've got the opportunity to be
on one of the biggest shows in the Hame wide
world to promote Love Cabin with Sheila and I and
and and this is a great moment for as.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Far as like, So, how did you feel?

Speaker 2 (31:30):
I'm sorry, I like, how did you feel when he
was when he professed his love and said he wants
to get back with his family when you were there
and together.

Speaker 12 (31:38):
Oh honestly, I wasn't there at the time when he
said that on the stream. I was sleeping, but I
support him whatever he you know, I like that.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
That's because she spells her name s h I. I
want to love you.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
In the back when he was on the stream that day,
I went to sleep because you know I was.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
I cried all night.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I want right back with Princess too, because that's when
I saw rad is most stable when Ray was with Princess.
That's that's the.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Princess has to warner back as well.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
I was about to ask, how does Princess Love feel
about Sheila?

Speaker 4 (32:19):
And I think Princess is in a place where she
has her nail shop she's been super focused on work
and really just trying to build her business, and so
I haven't really got a chance to talk too much
about it, but I know that I'm there for the
kids and for her, uh financially, and and and and

(32:40):
for love as well.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Right right, that's what you want, right right back with Princess.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Ray, Ray says she wants both of them to be happy.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
You talk to the nail shop alone, you and Princess
Wow pla nail shop on Preer beauty bar.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Okay, she look. We talked to Ray about some pressing
his shoes. Please all right, I'm not trying to tell
you the move you to the back that yeah, so
I think that's back. You go to the back to
thank you.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
But I don't remember.

Speaker 8 (33:14):
Remember shoes.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
We all got to advance.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Telling me what I would not do that told me
I wasn't ship.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I wouldn't never do that, like it was crazy. You
want to time early career.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
You're going to give you.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
And you keep it low key. That's mega moment.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I am not I think you should.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
I love that you appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
That's a nice bag and everything, okay, but what I
buy everything else? You got to type. I just want
you to know that I was watched the Scripple Pole
video Scripple Bawl Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
Yeah, I said everything else I got for it now,
but I have more to give.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Let's talk about part of part of turning the corner
for rad I love you. It's putting everything behind you
with this Kardashian sex tape now when you look, when
you look back, and with the tapes and the public
back and forth, the legal threats, what do you feel
people still misunderstand about your side of the story.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Oh, yeah, well I haven't talked to my lawyers enough
to know if legally I can go into into into
it all the way yet. But I just I have
a daughter, I have a son, and I love my
daughter so much. And I love my son and my
niece and and and just if I was to die today,
I think there's a lot of things that would be

(34:43):
misunderstood about my story and about just the overall life
that I lived. And I don't know if it's called
legacy or just your your just your biography, you know,
from life to death, and before it's done, I just
feel like there's a few things that I need to
make sure we have understood from an overall, an overall situation.

(35:06):
And again, this isn't me. This is something that's been
going on every year for twenty years to this year,
not on my side, on the other side, and so
I'm not bringing this back up twenty years later. I'm
not like sparking this back up to get some money.

(35:27):
It's not about that. It's just about the truth. And
it's not even about me wanting the truth now. This
is about the other side every year doing something to me.
And it's been happening every year of my life. I'm
talking about in twenty twenty five. It's a lot of
things that people don't know and it's happening now.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
But you know what the sad thing about.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
It is, I feel like we forget about that tape, right,
and we think about all the other.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Things that you do, the show, the electron anything. I
don't think we talk about that as much.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Nobody knows about the show, Nobody talks about the electronics,
nobody talks about well those things.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I think we should highlight more because you did amazing
things in that space that we don't talk.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
About, but we all know, like when you're dealing with
tech and when you're dealing with, you know, partners. The
discreetness of success and money and and what you do
is is it's something that you got to keep disciplined, right,
you have to discipline yourself not to expose these businesses
and the numbers, and because you can't gloat about it.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
You feel like that tape holds you back.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Like we've seen Kim do a collab with Nike, We've
seen Kim do a collab with the NBA. Do you
feel like it holds you back from doing thing?

Speaker 4 (36:40):
You feel like that.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
I don't know, you know, No, I don't know, because
the reason I said I don't know is there's other
things to raise it than just that tape, like we'll see.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
And that's why I've been I've been coloring outside the
line that's building businesses that doesn't have anything to do
with public perception. If we run a business and making
eighty or ninety million a year, there's no reason for
me to say that with my partners in the board
wanting to keep a very solid, low key business and
to keep things discreet. So if we made five hundred

(37:12):
million dollars, we couldn't.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
We can't, we can't do that.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
We can't talk about money because first off, it's not relatable,
and nobody can relate to numbers knowing that the ebit
of numbers could be one percent or it could be
ten percent or seventy percent. Right, so I can make
one hundred million, my ebit is one percent. That's I
didn't make anything. I made a hundred million. And so
I think just keeping that kind of side of the

(37:36):
business quiet is always showing good discipline in your partners
if you want to do business with people in that
kind of in that kind of space, and we all
know that. That's why when people say, oh, y'all making money,
Charlot man, you got all You're like, Man, I don't
know what you're talking about, but I think but exactly, But.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
I think what it's just trying to say is that
people don't take a lot of not even that we
don't know your success, but people don't take certain things serious.
And there's been a we're trying to figure out if
you think it's because the way you've been paying it
following the sex state, because even if you're successful, there
is kind of this conversation about the big empire she's

(38:15):
been able to build, and then you on the other
side and the way that people perceive you.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Well, I talked to a big journalist as one of
the biggest news shows of all time. I sent him
information just like I sent you. Just all you guys
can see what this is. You saw the impact of
what happened after right, And I'm not going to speak
on that, but what he said was, up until what
you sent me, I thought you were a narcissist ray

(38:43):
J I thought you were. And he said, and I'm
gonna keep it real, a piece of shit. You did
this to a girl who was trying to just live
her life. She overcame you, she became successful, you made
a little bit of money. You embarrassed yourself, You embarrassed her,
your sister, you embarrassed your mom, you embarrassed your family.
That's all I thought about you up until now what

(39:04):
you show me. And that's mainstream America. It's more than that, though,
because that's mainstream America. We know you, so we know
the different side. We're talking about American Idol, we're talking
about Dancing with the Stars, We're talking about Marvel, We're
talking about anything that happened rolls and to an a
list format of business that's not there.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
So what do I do?

Speaker 4 (39:28):
We color outside the lines and we become cessful, successful
in other air.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
But it's more than that.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Like when when they get you, sometimes they see your highlights, right,
we know you from differently, right. But if you look
at raised highlights outside of that sex tape, they might
see you pushing your wife into the pool.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
They might see you drunk online seeing princess.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
I didn't what happened.

Speaker 7 (39:50):
She tripped, she fell.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
But there's other things outside of that sex tape that
would make Ray look bad, not just that sex tape.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Don't go you see I'm saying that was not a
good moment.

Speaker 7 (40:01):
It wasn't.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
And again, I've done over five thousand hours of reality
TV correct and we've we've built successful businesses with Viacom,
we built successful businesses with Zeus Correct, and now we
have Zeus Power and Tronics, which is about to be
another level. Shout out to Lemmy and shout out to
the infrastructure that they have there with him being a scientist,

(40:24):
and things move forward. It still doesn't take away from
my daughter and my son knowing everything and everything is
being complete as far as who I really.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Am in my story, and I don't and I don't.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
I can't. I'm I don't know if we went really
deep with this, and I'm in trouble because I know
legally I can't really speak until we figure this out.

Speaker 8 (40:45):
But it it does.

Speaker 4 (40:49):
It does reflect on how I interact and how I
project myself to people, because once i'm once, I say
I'm done and I'm on another level and I'm, you know,
a different person. I need everything to be complete with that,
because if that's not complete, then I'm gonna stay turned
up until everything is complete.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
I do want to say one thing with the sex tape,
and mainstream America should notice that sex tape could not
be sold and distributed without everybody's consent bottom line, point blank.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I don't think everybody knows.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
I don't think everybody knows.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
I see.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
That's the and that's what I'm saying. When I see
y'all talk about it, y'all kindly go. I think everybody
knows that everybody knows something, everybody feels something. Let it
be known.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Ask the questions, Ask the questions, Ask the questions, the
real question.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Everybody. Everybody had to give their consent in order for
that tape.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
But if y'all are the culture. Let me ask the
real questions.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
Okay, let me ask you a couple of questions and
you just answer.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
And I text you that question asked yes, yeah, And
I'm gonna text Charlotte.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Mane in the meantime right text no, it's good, it's good.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
No, because this is the question to ask. It is
one question or two questions to ask. And if the
culture can get that clear, then we could all be
clear and I can move on with my life and
I can love my daughter and son and I be
worried about them fighting for like my image and who
I really am, like that ship. It really hurts me.

(42:26):
That's the only thing that makes me cry. It makes
me like feel bad is that kids. I don't want
my kids to have to deal with what I'm.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
Dealing with a conversation.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
They're too young, but they're almost there. That's what scaring
me is that I told myself before they actually see
it and get it. I have to do my job.
If not, I can't, I can't live here.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Can you pull it off the sites? Is it possible?

Speaker 4 (42:51):
It's not about pulling, It's not about pulling all the sites.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
My phone is.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Give me one of your phones.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
I'm gonna just show him in the text. I'm just
show what I'm mm hmmm. Do you think the public
narrative would have been different for you, Ray, if you
had the same level of pr machinery that the Kardashian's gun.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Man. It hurts to talk about it, bro, I don't
want to get emotional because I just want to do
I want to be a good person. Or if and
when I say I want to be a good person,
I'm already a good person.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
It's just.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Or if he wasn't black exactly, but you see, you
don't go that hard for me.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
But if you wasn't black, Ray, because you got a
lot of props for your penis in that video. See,
if you weren't black, you wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Have got I thought we said we weren't doing that
word with I'm sorry, So ry J, can you talk
about what's in the actual doc? Because people were surprised
too that there were two tapes that y'all shot. Okay,
hold on, try to talk to the mic.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
You're doing something.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
I hold it, Mike pause.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
That's how the tape started. That's exactly what Christ said, Christ,
you hold.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
They sending the Lauren, you don't ask that.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Maybe you can't, Lauren, you don't ask that.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
You are good. I don't know what it is gonna
be a see as I know he can't asked.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Now, now, now for the now, for the culture journalistic,
now for the culture demand those two questions being asked
as the culture and then I can sit back and
I can just chill and and and there's no more there.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
They're like, now, okay, so let's let's start.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
So now listen, Steve, like Lauren, is asking the questions,
not me. Shout out to my lawyers, this Mike out
the ways.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Steve versus the president. Yes, right, and I'm gonna tell
you how I know. I used to work with WIMS.
That's how I know these things.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Yes, So, Vivid is the porn company at the tape
came out on Steve hurst Is or was the president
of Vivid?

Speaker 7 (45:01):
Correct?

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Who introduced you to Steve Hirsch?

Speaker 4 (45:06):
That's the question I want you to ask the other side.
That's not the question for me. That's the question that No, no, no,
this is serious on the dead owners the other side
up here. No, no, no, it's not about the other side.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Okay, because you know we had this conversation.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
What they're dead, So they're fine, Okay, Okay, what's the
second question? So who is No I'm saying you have
to you have to demand that as a culture. From
the other side, can I ask what I'm talking about?
Nobody's doing that. They're just you're just letting it. We're
just we're just letting it fly by.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
When you were having conversations with Steve Hirsch, who from
the other side was also in the conversation.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Who introduced me to him?

Speaker 1 (45:51):
It's the question the mom.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
Okay, so second question.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Race them is like stop and he not? He not answered,
there's too much. If it's too much, we don't want
them to get in no legal trouble. Okay, here's what's crazy.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
Spiral or Spirole or whatever that nigga's name is he
gonna hit y'all with the ship too right after this,
y'all gonna get hit and everybody got hit.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
And that's where you go red flags.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
That's where it should be, red flags and every every aspect.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
But is he talking to the micra?

Speaker 1 (46:31):
What's the other question?

Speaker 5 (46:32):
So the second question is who is the person that
put the sex tape together?

Speaker 1 (46:38):
He's not gonna answer. He's not gonna.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
For me the document.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
These are not for me. These are for you to
demand it from the other side, as my friend.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
DJ Envy.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Yes, sir, you said you have my back. Find these
questions out, Lauren. You're a fucking big journalist. You come
from t m Z and every other place that's at
the top of the spot. Man, that question be answered, Charlemagne,
I want you to too. I don't know how to
say it like I said it about them, but you

(47:09):
are the one that could be like we demanded as
a culture because at the end of the day, this
could be some civil rights shiit, like if you really
think about it. But y'all not thinking about it like that,
and nobody really is because money talks and bullshit runs
the marathon and nobody wants to fuck up the check y'all.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Y'all already got y'all bag.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
But when you're getting lawsuit after lawsuit and cease and desist,
y'all they pressing, what why is it worth it? You
gotta fall back as a unit as an iHeart board,
Like I might even call Paul and tell him I'm
dying out here.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Paul, don't do that.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
I love.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
Real quick did you see the statement that spirerou dropped
a film producer. No, it's that that's what came up
for me. Paul's the big dog got I hired the
film producer came up from me, Bob.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
No, don't say.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Oh, you guys are playing so Paul.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
According to LinkedIn, I heard media he's a division president.
What division y'all don't know in l A because he's
listed in l A. I don't know. I just got
LA so I wouldn't know.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
He's Bob's number two.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Okay, Oh so listen, Wait, you said before that you
were painted as the villain. How does a black man
fight a machine this big when you're dealing with the
legal team, reality show, Empire, the global brand of the Cartashians.
How do you fight that and protect your reputation at
the same time?

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Support?

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Mm hmm, city can't Are you listening to the support? Yes?

Speaker 4 (48:59):
Support, Ask the questions, demand the answers, and if they
don't come back, it's a red flag. If they do
come back, whether it's under oath or not, and it's wrong,
that's when you guys do your job right. But I
guess all of this is under the table because we
don't matter. Obviously, this is some kind of like joke

(49:23):
and some kind of twenty five years span. I don't
give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
This is not me.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
If I could talk more, I'm not doing this.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
This is not me.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
This is what I'm going through right now legally with
them that's making it public. And now I'm getting suits
saying I'm doing this and doing that outside of arbitration,
outside of everything else.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
That's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
I can't say anything else.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Do you say, NDA where you can't talk because.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
No, no, I just don't know if this is okay
right now because it just happens. So I have to
call my lawyers because.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Don't meant that y'all did there weren't things on both
sides were like you also can't do and say things
because the stream is what kicked it off. The stream, Well,
the stream took it to a different and it brought
it to these documents that.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
I was already there. It was just an arbitration.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
Oh so y'all had already been.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
It was already at a high level where I felt
like I was a slave and I was I was
a nigger.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Your niece is too funny when you hit that hard.

Speaker 10 (50:42):
It was, but but.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Charlemagne, that's not that's not okay because it was. It
was emotional, I know, but now we watered it down
and instead of it being so powerful.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
At this point rate, I feel like, if there's no NDA,
you should do a documentary and be able to tell
your own story because they can't sue you if it's facts,
they can't.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Sue the period. These is in facts, these, this is life.
This is me like telling you that it's white and
you're saying it's black, and they're like, well, it's blacker
than white right now, just because we don't want to
get in trouble. We getting seasoned diseases because we see
the pipe, the paper is white, but they're saying it's black.

(51:34):
But a season desist and I don't want to fuck
with their lawyers. That's what's happening. When are you guys
gonna come in and ask the questions for me? And
if you can't, I understand that I've had companies, I've
been pressed by my board. I've created companies and had
the board not want me there right off companies we created.

(51:55):
I get it, and I'm not gonna like like this.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Is a good conversation and you start, I'm gonna tell you,
do you think the industry owes you an apology for
letting one family's version of events dominate the news cycle?

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Fall of once it saw said and done and they
got the truth. Like, if they get the truth, then
I think that they'll they'll they'll actually shet a till
from me and them feel sorry for me.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
What happens when we ask these questions and we don't
get responses and you can't so you.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Know, listen, you know, as a journalist, you can rewind
the tapes on joke Joe Joe Cordon or whatever they've
already said what they didn't do, ask them again, ask
them again and tell them to stand on it, stand
on it for the culture one time. Answer these two questions.

(52:41):
They owe it to the world, They owe it to
their fans, They owe it to their family, They owe
it to their kids. They owe it to my kids.
They owe it to my sister, they owe it to
my mom. Answer these two questions.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
I'm see what the last thing with the chat.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
And I guarantee you you guys won't do it, because
once you start, that car is going to happen, and
that car is going to shut it down. And that's
what hurts me to boast. Now I'll tell you what
my chat is doing too.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Now they say, you guys agreed to do a tape,
you both got paid, and now you're changing your mind.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
That's what That's what they is and that and and
that's what's sad because there's so much more to the story.
I'm not changing anything. Man, I'm the one being sued.
I'm the one being pressed. If I could tell you everything,
which I want to, I would, but I need to
talk to my lawyers. All I want to do is
say everything I talked to Chris Cuomo, and I want

(53:40):
to I want to do it one on one because
he's been he understands it. I don't know if I
can or not, but if I can, I'm gonna do
it after this or with Charlotte Magne and DJ Envy
and Lawn. Just hilarious, just is too hilarious for this.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Let's move on because you can't discuss to get you
in trouble, Me in trouble already, bro, Like this is bad.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
If you look at how the Kardashian's handle media versus
how you've handled media, what's the biggest lesson you've learned
about controlling your own dad.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
I don't give a fuck. That's controlling the narrative.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
How I am now.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
It exudes what anybody can do. And it seems like
it's a crash out, but it's a voice where I'm speaking.
My voice in every day is getting heard, and that's it.
Whether it's a crash out or not. You look at
all these other dudes that's been involved in that other situation.
They're done, they're going through it. They don't work, they're

(54:39):
mentally messed up. Whether you got a two billion dollar
budget or you got a two hundred thousand, everybody's done.
They're going crazy, suicidal. I've been that way all because
y'all ain't listen. All because y'all didn't listen, and y'all

(55:01):
ain't help me.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
That's why we don't know that you need help until
you tell us.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Like I'm just like, I've cried out. I've cried to you.
I've cried to you. DJ and BU won't give me
a number.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
No.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
I found you on Instagram, I think, and you said,
calls Charlemagne, I ain't in it. I said, dang right,
where do you go from there? When the culture won't
help you when nobody wants to ask the question. And again,

(55:36):
everybody has a family. We can't jeopardize our food on
our plate for our family. But my plate, whether it's
a big plate, it's supposed to be way bigger. Because
if I'm able to sustain this and survive this and
drop companies and sell companies and come back and crash

(55:59):
out and survive that too and still be in here
like I don't give it, then I should be Where
should I really be? Where should I really be?

Speaker 3 (56:11):
The coaches said, you did this to yourself because you
have a type. And doctor m doesn't approve of your type.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Doctor Umar is like, see that. Me and doctor Umar
had an argument. He know that he likes Suki.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Yes, but Suki's with me, okay, okay, So.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
He can't like Suki. So he tried to press me,
and I said, doctor Umar, don't do that because you're big.
But you're not big, You're not that big. I'll take
you one.

Speaker 7 (56:36):
You're still with Suki.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
I'm always with Suki.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Don't cry, Sheila, Sheila, do not cry, Sheila, Sheila, don't cry, Sheila, Sheila,
don't cry. Don't cry Sheila.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Okay, And I told Suki boyfriend that two days ago.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
Oh so this is like recently still I told Suki
boyfriend two days ago, stand down, don't you ever put
your hands on Suki and we good. Other than that,
y'all live, y'all life, and you still paying out like
monthly hitting her off with the what was it seventy
five K or something that ain't nothing?

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Okay, I need you.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
All to help me, but past the other thing. All right,
so let's go to another subject. All right, we're done
with it. Things you guys depressed me. I'm sorry and
y'all hit me in the heart. I'm sorry because all
I think about is my daughter and my son. I
get it and what they got to go through in life. Man,
think about it?

Speaker 3 (57:33):
No, Yeah, being a father, how does that shift your
How does that shift think about the public narrative around
you and also your past suicidal?

Speaker 4 (57:40):
Hey, it's unconventional, like because I love my daughter so much,
how would she ever think of me like that? Like
it kills me. I'm talking about some of the shit
I be doing online. I just be like I'll be
just crashing out because it ain't nowhere else to go,
and so it's just my daughter, my son. I think

(58:02):
can handle it. I just want my daughter to be okay, man,
and her to know that that's whatever you're hearing. Because
y'all the same age as them as y'all grow up,
so eventually you're gonna have this.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Bat.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
I rather the truth for a dollar than a billion
dollars for a fucking lie.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Keep your money, they owe me money, keep that. Just
tell the truth for one buck and I can start over.
And if people don't care, it doesn't matter about what
people don't care. We're all living right now. It's about
when we die. Bro. Everybody living is like, why they
doing this? I don't give a fuck about none of that.

(58:45):
All I care about is my daughter and my son.
And when I think about that, I'm gonna crash crazy.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Are you talking to somebody besides doctor shy and Bright?
Are you talking to a therapist on a regular basis?
Because I'm talking to Ray is good.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
I don't know, man, I just I'm not playing bro.
It hurts me every day. I don't care how much
money I made, how much money I got. I got
a daughter and I love her, and I got a son.
I love him, and I just don't want to disappoint them, Bro.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
You do doing life will be better with you here
with them and not not here. Do that, bro.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
If I'd rather die for the truth, if I got
to die for them to know the truth, and I'd
rather be exited out so they can they look at life.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
What that that's on the dad. I'm keeping it real, bro,
to take your son to his games like you want
to be going to do that? And I want to,
but you do? They help me call you every day
when you start talking like this. Don't call me.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Ask the questions.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Don't call me serious, don't call me ask the question.
I am going to call you.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Ask the questions.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Don't call me. Ask the questions.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
Demand the question the man, answer the man. The answers,
DJ and VY demand them.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Even if you don't get the answers, we still want
you here regardless. Just so political wells asked the questions.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
But it's gonna be political, then I'm gonna hit the
strip club and I'm gonna be political.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
See, we want you here.

Speaker 12 (01:00:12):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
You don't want nobody swearing on you, because you know
what I'm saying. Would you want somebody swearing on you?

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
Asked the questions?

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Charlemagne that's that's easy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
I just okay, let's get it something more uplifting, positive
and ra life.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
So you talked to me, I don't know how to
go anywhere past this show.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Well you got you said you need.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Man, I can't. Man, Come on, if you even wanted
to hug Race since he started talking about that sex tape,
if you start thinking about that sex tap, if you
want to put a hands on he want to hug
Rag up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Man, I'm just gonna holp my brother.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Got to love him, man, we love him.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Jokes is jokes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
We're gonna have to questions.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Ask the questions. Ray, all right, well, so ask the questions.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Ray serious though.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Yeah, you're serious. Ask the questions. Ask the questions to
the public. Game.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
No, not to the public too.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
It's because it's nothing's bigger than the program. So we
have to figure out if how is that gonna work
for the program. We all have boards, we all have
people that's gonna figure it out. We're all bosses, but
we have boards.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
So we're not saying.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
Nobody is the boss of nobody, but the board is
bigger than the boss.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
You're just saying that you want the question asked.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
I'm gonna ask.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
We're gonna ask the questions. The question because I know
what the end goal is. The end goal es not.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
You don't have to answer here, ask it somewhere else.
Demanded create the create the like the protest.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
But Ray, I think something bigger than even asking the question.
What you want is simply for them to say we
were all in this together.

Speaker 11 (01:01:55):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
I wanted to just be very simple.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
I wasn't the one that was orchestrated.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
I was just a fucking tool bro. I didn't do nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I never had none of that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
I never had none of the six stakes in my
hand ever in fucking life. They've never been in my hand.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Never a tool stopping.

Speaker 8 (01:02:17):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
You can't take anything serious.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Man. He just said that he's a team with a tool. Respect.
I get what he's saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Nothing up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
The chat going crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
The chat was like different conversations.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
Why I don't want me to do no more.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Listen to your niece, Okay, we can we bring her up.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Here and talk about her music.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
You're talking about your tool. Come on, we don't clear.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
We're gonna change. We're gonna change.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
That is not the segway, Ray, Ray, Ray, that is
not okay.

Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
Another chair here for her in the mic, this is
see y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Y'all don't understand the Toldest takes on a man spiritual hygiene.
That's a great book for you to read.

Speaker 6 (01:03:02):
We're gonna play Rod ro So today to Rob. How
you feeling right, Rah, damn conversations we breakfast club, Ra.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
I'm really glad you heard because Ray needs this kind
of real family around him. You know, never how you
feeling the only other time I'm gonna some real, real
view questions when I see Ray with his family, When
I see with people like Billy, That's when I'm like, Okay,
Ray is in good hands. Shout out to people that
actually care about it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
You know, I get emotion on when I'm up here
with my niece. I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Yeah, he's the greatest uncle on earth and the greatest
What do you think people misunderstand about him?

Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Don't answer that. Just let's talk about but just talk
about No, don't bother her like that. No, let's have
her talk about Let's have her talk about her music
and ship. Bro, don't have her talk about this ship, please, Bro.
I can't have but I don't care what's going on
with your music?

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
How's your music going, uncle? Don't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
I think you need to hear that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
I don't care that you think. I love my little
I love my little niece.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
Let's not bring her into this, all right, Let's just
talk about her music and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Bro, He's amazing. Just not do it, broad.

Speaker 7 (01:04:28):
Homies, bro and the greatest father.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Just let's not do this. Love it. I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Do you feel pressure being Brandy's daughter and pursuing a
singing Oh yeah, absolutely, that's big. That's some big shoes
what you're saying, though.

Speaker 10 (01:04:44):
No, y'all know, it's a lot, and it's a lot
coming from my uncle to you know. I think I
get my little personality from him too. I'm real, hyper
real and energetic like him. And you know, singing mom
mommy's like that too though the whole family. Yes, yeah,
it's a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
It's a lot. I love you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Did they want you to pursue his career when you
first told him like I sing.

Speaker 7 (01:05:08):
At first?

Speaker 10 (01:05:09):
My grandma didn't as much until she heard my voice.
She really want me to be an attorney, like a lawyer,
because I'm really good at arguing. But no, I went
to school for business. I got my degree and everything.
So it's it's you know, I'm trying to do both.
I want my masters, so I'm taking a year off though,
and then I might go back next year. But you know,

(01:05:31):
I have my my degree and in the studio and
you know, the new movies coming out, so I'm really excited.
Called Christmas every Yes, every day. Yes, Me and my
mom plays Sisters, which which is kind of weird.

Speaker 7 (01:05:44):
Acting debut.

Speaker 10 (01:05:44):
Yeah, it's my first movie ever. I didn't know I
would like acting like that, so it was it was
great to get that opportunity.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
Wow, it's fire and then so on. So acting debut,
and then you guys are talking about doing a joint
project musically, you and bringing Right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Yeah, wow, that's so precious.

Speaker 10 (01:06:04):
Oh well, obviously she's very involved in like what I
do musically. She's vocal produced along with Troy Taylor. He
he didn't, mom, did they vocal produced me for this
whole upcoming project that I'm putting out? But yeah, they
pushed me a lot, both of them, and it's really crazy.
You know, people would pay a lot of money to

(01:06:24):
have her in the studio, like get out, you know,
leave me alone.

Speaker 7 (01:06:28):
But you know, I'm so grateful there's a lot of pressure.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
It's a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:06:31):
She pushes me a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
So what does success look like for you?

Speaker 10 (01:06:35):
I think I'm already successful to be in this family,
I can be a neple. Babies of the day I die, okay,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:06:42):
I love it.

Speaker 10 (01:06:43):
I love watching you know, you know, mom and uncle
age and even my grandma just working and and my
and my granddad, you know, working.

Speaker 7 (01:06:51):
It's like, yeah, I'm just here just sitting pretty. I
can do it all day. But you know, I love
to work. I really love to work. That's why I
got my degree, I went to college all it. I
love working.

Speaker 10 (01:07:01):
And with all this stuff coming up, I'm excited. But
you know, I think just being around everybody and just
you know, feeling everything, I just feel like I'm already successful.
I have beautiful friends, beautiful family, you know, beautiful cousins.

Speaker 7 (01:07:16):
So you know, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
That is great. All you got to do is create
the type of art you want to make. You can
make the kind of moves you want to make, like
there's no yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:07:26):
And I'm so blessed because a lot of people don't
have that open door. You know, it's really hard to
put your foot in and I had it. So I'm
so like, I'm so grateful, I'm so blessed, and I
never want people to think that I'm like taking advantage
of it. That's why, like when you hear music or
even the movie, Like I was in acting lessons for
a month straight. I was in you know, I did

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vocal lessons. I know how to play piano ucully, Like
like I was in dance, Like I've I've been in
dance competitions. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:07:53):
Like, I just know that my foot was already in
the door. So like I just wanted to work ten
times harder because it's like it's already there. Okay, so
you go to college, well, get straight a's.

Speaker 10 (01:08:03):
And then you're in the highest honors, you know what
I mean. So it's like something in me, it's like
I had it, But don't let people think, you know,
like you know you already got it. So just know
I work a little harder, just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
But look at look at the proud love it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:18):
What's it like being on tour with your mom and exhausted,
you know, it's so fun. It's fun. It's great to
see her and she deserves it. She really really deserves us.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
And the thing I think is ill about you is
like I can see both versions, right. I can see
like Brandy is very polished, very media trained, and you
got your uncle who's very outspoken, says what the hell
he wants? I can see both you you know how
to control it. I can see it like you're not
going to ever get to this unless you might.

Speaker 10 (01:08:52):
Okay, you very much, So my mom, because I got
to come on. Now, Mom's very real, you know she is.
She's quote unquote media train. Okay, but no, she's just her.
And like, so it's my uncle. I just I just
feel like we just don't put up a facade, like

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we're very real, you.

Speaker 7 (01:09:15):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (01:09:16):
So my uncle feels a certain way, Brandy feels a
certain way, if I feel a certain way, even sonya son,
he be you know talking, you know what she wants
to talk about, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:09:24):
So it's like we're just real. And I don't think
in this family.

Speaker 10 (01:09:29):
I don't think we're media training, you know what I mean,
get reality show?

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
We do.

Speaker 7 (01:09:35):
We did have a real family.

Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
Yeah, yeah, it was a while ago. It was like yeah,
two thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
I don't remember the whole family.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
I was like nine, I was, I wasn't in it,
but no dad, yeah d two seasons right, it was
a Brandy and rey Ja family business.

Speaker 8 (01:09:53):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Oh yeah, got you got you, got you, got you
got you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 8 (01:09:58):
Yeah, man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
But listen, by the way, when you see people like
ray N, you understand his plight, right so so so
take that then factor in his kids and you'll understand
the fight he's he's waging right now.

Speaker 7 (01:10:13):
Just takes care of everything everybody. There are a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:10:19):
A lot of watching.

Speaker 7 (01:10:20):
Takes care of a lot a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Thank you for a whold of un down of course,
my favorite person, ray J. We love you brother, all right,
it's the break We see you back there too, every

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Day waiting click up the Breakfast Club