Best of 2024 - Recorded October 2024 - Stephanie Ike Okafor Talks 'The Power Of Your Dreams,' Encountering God, Morality, Deja Vu. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The breakfast Club. Morning,
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club. Yes,
it's our maternity leave. So Laura la Ross is feeling
in and we got a special guest in the building.
We have passed the Stephanie E. K okafor did I
say it right?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
You said it good?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Okay, thank you so much, welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Cool to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I feel good.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
You related to the basketball player?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
No, okay, okay, got you, got you, got you, got you?
You got a new book out not a power of
your dreams. Yeah, I love a good dream book. I'm
the type of person that I keep dream books by
my bedside. When I wake up, I can look and
see what certain things mean that will got you into
wanting to write this book.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
No.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
So, I encountered God when I was nine years old,
and one of the ways that was so consistent was
that He will speak to me through dreams. And it's
interesting when you talk about, you know, using like having
books that tell you about symbols and things like that,
because I think one of the reasons why maybe sometimes
people don't even understand the fullness of their dream is
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because they pick it apart, and the whole dream is
telling the message. So if you only pick it apart,
you may not understand the fullness of it. But dreams
has been so consistent for me ever since nine years old.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
That is a great point because I never look at
the whole totality of my dream.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I find like one thing that that stood out.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
It's like a web MD of dreams where people like
get books or go on Google and you're like, you
only look at one thing. And that's one of the
things I talk about in the book, where you have
to look at it like a whole story and to
understand in each symbol to tell the you know, kind
of like tell what is the dreams really saying?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
That you said you had an account with God at
the age of nine, Yeah, what was that encounter? What
did he say? What was that conversation? What just enlightened
us with what it was?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
So my father was murdered when I was eight months old,
and so I grew up with like a lot of anger.
And there was one day that you know, my mom
was looking for this document and I was just like
it was something that she really needed. You know for
the times that we were in and I was like, man, God,
you know, if you didn't take my father, it was
just another reason why I got angry again. But that
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day literally like, I remember being in my room and
I could feel like a presence in my room, but
it wasn't scary. But then for a nine year old,
it's like, bruh, who's in my room? You know? And
I won't I go to my mom's room because I'm like,
whatever is going on there, I don't want no part
of it. So I got my mom's room. She's and
she's up, she's in her bed. She's like, what are
you doing. I was like, oh, and I just want to,
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you know, sleep, sleep in your room. She's like, okay,
hop in. So the moment I hop in her bed,
she's out cold, like not moving, not responding, and I
feel the same presence again in her room. And I
didn't really believe in God at that age, but my
mom has always been a strong believer, and so I
didn't even know. Now I knew it was the Holy Spirit,
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then I didn't realize what made me ask the question.
And I was like, God, if this is of you?
Because I was thinking Okay, if this is my mom's God,
he can't harm me. I'm like, if this is of you,
cause win to flow through my ankles, and they were
out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
The windows are not open. Nothing there was.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Like this wind that just flows through me. Because with
my eyes closed, I could see a man sitting but
his home makeup was like light. So then I removed
like the covers of my eyes and I see him
with my eyes open, sitting there and he gets up.
He walks over to my mom and I start asking
him questions because I thought it was God.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
And I was like, where were you with my dad?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Dad?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Did da da da da?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
And he starts saying something. I had no clue what
he was saying. He walks over to my mom. He
opens her hand, he puts like this piece of paper
in her hand, closes, it disappears. So when that happened,
my mom gets up and I was like, Mom, so
I opened her hand, there's nothing there.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I'm like, Mom, like this just happened. Da da da
da dah.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
She was like, Stephanie, I thought it was God. I
was like, God was in the room, and she's like,
I don't think it works like that. So she goes
back to bed. She's like, Stephanie, I think you're tripping.
She wakes up that morning, her pastor calls her and
he was like, Hey, I was in prayer and I
just feel like to tell you that there was an
angelic encounter in your home. But he didn't know to
the degree of what he was even saying. And I
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was like, Mom, I'm telling you, this happened randomly. The
document we had been literally ripping the whole house apart
for just shows up on the table and then I'm like, wait,
was that the document? Like was that what it symbolized?
Like they put in our hand? And so I'm like,
oh my gosh, I met God. And then I stood
at hearing the voice of God and it was like, dude,
that was not me. That was an angel. And then
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he starts describing to me who angels are, but then
points me to read the Bible. I had never really
read the Bible, tells me what scriptures to read.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I could hear it so clearly.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
And I'm like, Mom, I need a Bible. I need
like a study a kid's Bible. And I'm like, so
she's the one guiding me where to go to to
read those scriptures, and I'm literally seen in the scripture
when it talks about angels and X, Y and Z.
And after that, it was like something just unlocked for
me spiritually. I said that, hearing the voice of God,
I will have encounters and dreams. Some dreams was like
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a very like no, just it didn't even need to
be explained. The dream was literally like an encounter. And
then some dreams were just like symbols that had hidden
messages in it, and that became like my life ever since.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Then.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
What did the angel look like?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
It looked like Homie from the Crossroads video.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
It was so he had like a he had a
human form, but the only difference his home makeup was light.
That was everything about him was like light radiating. So
I couldn't even tell you what he how to describe
his features because it was just light y.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I just want to say I believe her because I've
seen the same thing exactly like that.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
How old were you?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I was actually old.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
That was in my teenage years, and I remember laying
in the bed sleeping and I thought I was dreaming,
and it looked like my bedroom door burst it open.
And when it bursted open, it was just this figure
that was light. Yeah, it had a human form. I
couldn't see, but it had a human form, but it
was just light.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yeah. What happened after that?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
You seeing aliens? To an alien came and got them too.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
I could tell you stories as we called them aliens,
but they're really just monic spirits.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh, I believe aliens shot him in the lake.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Tell the story that we're having a real conversation about God,
but he would try to interduce you.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
She said that, like when she confirmed that you probably
saw demonic it just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It sits well with.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Me, Like yeah, because angels really come in a way
that their their presence, their essence is so radiating. But
then they're also you can also have encounters with demonic spirits.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
That's also fair. I've had. I could tell too many stories.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Is it a mission that you feel like from seeing
that and from having those conversations, do you feel like
you were sent on a mission to do something? And
do you know what that mission is?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
If so, I think not even I think everyone has
their angels assigned to everyone on this earth. Like life
is not just physical, it is it's actually more spiritual
than physical. I think the difference is that there are
times that you know, based on how God is working
with someone, that he might open your eyes to see
things at a younger age, and if you're not scared
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of it, if you don't run from it, and even
if you do, you can always come back to the
place where you're like, God, maybe I was scared, but
show me again. And I believe that part of my
calling even on Earth, is really to awaken people to
the supernatural because it governs everything that we do in
the natural realm. I was going to say, like, for you,
it was a lot more clear, but like I've had
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like not encounters or I saw something, but where things
have happened, I'm like, that's nothing but God, and I'll
be like, God, do it again, so I know that
this is like the thing, and then He'll do it again.
So I myself, I'm always like, no, my faith is
strong because He's talked to me show But it took
a couple of times. Some people think they're hearing things,
but it might not be clear that is God to them.
How do you coach people through being able to let
that voice break through and understanding it is God. Yeah,
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I think One of the key things is from this
the fun fundational element of it. Right, you don't need
to read the Bible for God to speak to you,
but you need to have an understanding of His voice
in the Bible so that you're not deceived by the
voices you hear. And so when you have a good
foundation of knowing the voice of God, even in his word,
then when you begin to hear him or you see
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things in the book. One of the things I talk about,
even before I get into the subject of dreams, are
the different ways we experience God's voice.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, the four primary way.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
So there are some people who they are feelers, right,
they can you know, God has emotions. The Bible talks
about so many types of emotions. Peace, you know, love, anger,
all these things. So there are people that you might
walk into a room there's a deal on the table
for you, everything checks off, But then you don't. You're
not at peace with this. Something is like messing up
with you, Like, I don't think this is for me.
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The problem is that if we don't have a god
consciousness about life, we think it's us feeling that way.
But the Lord is trying to share his emotions with you. Like, hey,
I'm not in that. You know, it might look good
on paper, but I'm not in that. So those are
people that feel. There are people that know. There's some
people that just have an instinctive knowing, and for many
that is more heightened when you're a kid like you
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and meet a child and you're like, what do you
want to be? You know, sometimes they just say random stuff,
but they're kids that just know what they want to
be and it has nothing connected to their parents, like
their family members were never in that field of work.
But they see something, they're exposed to something, and they
just have a knowing. Wait, I'm supposed to be in
this field. I'm supposed to do this. I'm supposed to
be an actress. And it's just this instinctive knowing. Because
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there's a beauty with being a child, there's not. Your
intelligence is not in the way the older we get
our wisdom blocks us from discerning the voice of God
because we're trying to you know, I'll think it. We're
overthinking it, rather like where did this come from? Where
did that come from? And then there's the hearers. There
are people who you know audibly, it's more rare to
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hear the voice of God audibly now, but you can
also he also speaks in a form of So there
are these distinctive thoughts or series of thoughts that you
would really like hear in your head. And it has
nothing to do with how you would naturally think, how
you would naturally like, you know, think about a matter.
The same way that anxiety has a voice, you know,
pain has a voice. The Lord also speaks to you
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through your thoughts and then they're seers. And that's where
dreams come in.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Right.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
There are people where you're dreaming, you see visions. There's
something called open visions where you might even be you
feel as though you were somewhere and then you're back
in your body, you know. But all these things are
ways that we can experience the voice of God. But
the foundation is if you don't know how he speaks
in the Bible, then you can easily get deceived.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
So knowing, hearing, seeing and seeing, yes, So how do
you break down some of those those dreams? Right? Could
you talk about the power of your Dreamsah, I'm sure.
Probably the biggest dream that people have, I'm sure is
somebody falling. Yeah, and so what does that mean when
somebody is falling or when you when people feel like
they see somebody coming in from their past life.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You said, passed like like a loved one who passed away.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, like a loved one that passed away. You know what,
For me, it's I remember when my my wife's father
passed away, right, And it was the weirdest thing. We
had balloons downstairs. Yeah, and it was her birthday, and
my wife, out of nowhere, just started thinking about her dad.
And I don't know if this was whatever it was,
but out of nowhere, like midnight one am, the balloons
that were in the kitchen actually blew up the stairs
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and came into the bedroom.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It freaked me the fuck out. Freaked me the fuck out.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
That helium balloons.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, they were healing balloons. Yeah, of course they would
rise even thinks.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Up the stairs and.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Experience with God.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
But it could have went to any one of the
bedrooms in the house.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It went right to the bench.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
That's why you're talking an alien shot him in the
foot exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
No, I believe I believe that was I believe that
was it. I believe that was a sign. I believe
that was him. I really do. I'm not doing this sound.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yes, no, but it was out of my house, out
of any where those balloons could have went. And the
fact that she was talking about her dad and crying
for him several hours earlier just made me feel like them.
There are signs and there are angels. So how do
you you know, I guess, break down different dreams. What
do the different dreams mean?
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Yeah, So in the book I talk about just different
types of dreams, because the key thing, even before you
get into that, is to know why we dream, right God,
I mean? And their dreams can come from different places.
A dream can come from you, a dream can come
from God. A dream can come from you know, the enemy.
But when it comes from God. God has a desire
to has a desire to speak to us more than
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we even desire to hear from him. Because regardless of
where we find ourselves in life, regardless of how successful
we perceive ourselves to be, regardless of all the things
we have going on on, we are first His creation
and there's something there. Your life is not random. He
desires to do life with you, He desires.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
To partner with you.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
And so there are types of dreams like especially when
people see their loved ones who had passed on. Those
could be encouragement dreams. Now, how the dream is presented matters,
because when someone passes away, they are they lose consciousness
of the physical realm. But that does not mean that
who they are, their essence is gone. Right, They're transitioning
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to a different life, you know, whether that's with the
Lord or you know the opposite. Nobody wants that, but
they're transitioning now to like an eternal life, you know,
in the spiritual realm. But they don't technically have You
can see them in dreams and most people.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Would have, you know, these dreams.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Where they don't speak, they just appear, They just show themselves, right,
because those realms are now they're different realms, right, So
you might see them in a dream, and the purpose
of that dream is just the Lord trying to bring
comfort to you and in purage you that, yes you
don't have your loved one with you, but they're not
fully absent, They're not fully just gone. You know who
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they are, the core of who they are, like their
spirit man is still with him.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
What about the opposite side of that scale, the dream
where you dream that you die.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
That is a dream that now that could be warning dreams.
So we had this was president This was President Lincoln,
I believe. So he had a dream right before he
was assassinated. He literally had a warning dream. And in
the dream, he's walking, you know, through the White House
and he hears people mourning and he's like, hey, what's
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going on? And somebody tells him in the dream the
president has been assassinated, and he's like wait what And
he's literally watching them mourn him, and he's like almost
like a funeral service. He wakes up. The problem is
he has that type of dream. So it's recorded that
he told people close to him the dream. But then
if no one understands, like, hey, regardless of who you are,
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is still trying to get a message to you. If
he understood the weight of the dream, he would have
counseled every activity that was coming up. But he kept
his scheduleized normal and a few days after that he
was assassinated.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Doesn't that doesn't that, I guess the right word is
the gate. Doesn't that negate your faith in God? If
you do that, if somebody, if you have a dream
and something bad it's gonna happen to you, and then
you just automatically cancel everything.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's like, where does God come in the plane.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You know, we have this thing where we say, like,
you know, is God in control of life and all
these things? Yes, But the Bible says, the earth has
he given to man? Now what that means is that
let me even go go back a little bit.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Even Jesus.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Right before Jesus could do what he was purpose to
do on earth, he had to come through a human
vessel in order to execute it. Now, this is God.
God is eternal, God is all powerful. He could have
just spoken and rewritten history. But in order for us
to be read, Jesus had to come through the flesh.
Why because the flesh gives you legal rights to.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Do things on earth.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
So when we look at God, there's a reason why
God desires to partner with us. It's just like even
the reason we pray. You know, why would Jesus tell
us when you pray, not if you pray. The reason
we pray is because we're saying, hey, God, I'm in
agreement with what you're doing and you can do it
through me. The Bible also talks about that before God reveals,
Before God.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Does anything, he reveals.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
It the Bible says to his servants, the prophets, it's
not even about people being prophets per se, but that
there is this prophetic stream that someone needs to be
aware of what God wants to do so that they
can partner with him in prayer. And so when God
reveals something to you in a dream, God doesn't speak
to gossip or just to be like, hey, heads up.
He speaks so that there is partnership. There is something
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that needs to be counseled, there is something that needs
to change. I'll give you an example. I had a
dream one day and in the dream I saw a
calendar and on the calendarough there was a particular date
circled in red. And then in the dream, I hear
pray for your brother concerning that day. So I wake
up from the dream. My brother's in Chicago. He flips
properties in Chicago, and I tell him I was like, hey,
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on this day, be really careful about your movements, right,
And so I just start praying, and I just start
praying for God's protection over him. I'm like, whatever has
been a sign to his life, because I literally saw death,
and I'm like, whatever is trying to you know, take
him before his time. God just cancel it in prayer.
That day comes, my brother is going to his property,
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just a regular checkup, and a car starts following him.
He didn't notice it at first, and then he makes
a turn. He's like, wait, let me just make sure
he makes a random turn.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Dayturn.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
He makes a left turn, day turn left, he makes
another right on dayturn right, and then he looks and
he's like, oh, they're probably trying to like steal from him.
And this is Chicago, Chicago even they might want to
steal bread from you and shoot you, you know. So
now he's like he just comes to a place where
he's like okay, Like God, give me wisdom how to
navigate this. And he mentioned like he didn't even know.
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Something just took over. It's almost like telling him how
to drive right. And then he loses them. So he
calls me right after. He was like, Yo, the craziest
thing happened today. And I told him, I say, bro,
what's today? And I'm like, go go back to the
message I sent you, like what's today?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
And he looks.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
It was that day that God literally showed me in
the dreams circled and read, So how I partner with
God was to say, God, your purpose is that nothing
happens to my brother, But someone on earth needs to
come in agreement with that because there is something Because
even when you look at terrorist shootings and all these things,
it goes beyond a person, you know, a mental health issue.
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You have someone who is influenced by a.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Spirit to do that.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
And so that day, why God gave a warning ahead
of time is because there is something that is beyond
people just trying to steal from him. There is a
spirit that has influenced those people because of an agenda
that was not of God. And so that is why
prayer is important. When you you see a dream and
you see yourself dying, or you see a family member dying,
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doing nothing is coming in agreement with that narrative.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
And and pray against pray against it and with Jesus.
It's so simple.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
It's not even like you got to do all this hoopla.
It's literally coming in agreement to say, you know what, Lord,
I'm speaking life into this person's life. No harm will
come before them. And so that shows us the supernatural
powers of God that even when we feel like we
got it all together, He's like no. If I partner
with you, we could, you could, you would really get
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this life right. The reason why when another coming dream
is when people see themselves in school or in a
classroom and they're trying to take a test and they
keep failing the test because God is trying to tell them, hey,
there's a different season of life you're supposed to be
stepping into, and you're you're not You're you're missing it right.
You're still in an old season and you're still stuck there.
And so he's trying to show people like, there's more
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I have for you, but because you're not seeing it right,
you're so comfortable where you are that you're missing the
test to get you to the next place.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Talk about if you if you feel comfortable about the
time you went to the doctor and God told you
something different than what your doctor told you.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Oh that that happened to me. You know.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
So when I was pregnant, I have I have a daughter.
When I was pregnant with my daughter, I started experiencing
like a lot of pain, and you know, we go
rush the go to the go to the we are
O B G Y N rather and He's like trying
to you know, even confirm the pregnancy, and he's like, man,
I don't see a pregnancy here. I just see some
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things that does not look good. Like you need to
go to the er. So we rush to the er.
They tell me that I have like these fibroids that
have gone, you know, gotten really big because of the
pregnancy and the blood flow going like to the womb.
So they, you know, we share the results of the
doctor and he literally calls me. He was like, because
of the size of these fireboids, because of the location
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of these fibroids, you need to terminate the pregnancy. And
you need to terminate this, because he was from his analysis,
the baby won't have room to grow and the firebords
could cause and even if you know, we take the
baby to term, the bleeding is going to be too excessive.
And he was like, and he called back to back,
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he was like, I'm telling you you need to terminate
this and try again. Let terminate it. Let's take the
firebords out and try again. Now, Before that, how I
even knew I was pregnant, Not from nine I started
seeing angels and all those things. So right before I
found out I was pregnant, I was in my closet.
I was getting ready for something and this angel appears
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in my closet and doesn't speak. They don't speak like
how we're talking. It's almost like spirit to spirit. And
I just had this knowing that I'm pregnant, and I
was like, and I run downstairs to my husband. I
was like, Babe, I think we're pregnant. So when the
doctor is telling me this, and then I used to
see my daughter in dreams a lot, and I'm like, God,
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you will not go through all of this just so
that I have to terminate this pregnancy. But I also
believe that there are some things we experience in life
that reminds us that we are not doing life by
our own intelligence, because that's to be self dependent. But
I'm doing life with God. So there are things I'm
going to experience in life that only God can see
me through it, and He designed it to be that way.
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And so I remember, like, I'm still in a lot
of pain, and I just like I'm praying and calling
out to God. And that night I have a dream
and the Lord comes to me and says, do are
two key things. He says, no harm is going to
come to your child, and he hands me a Bible,
and when I woke up, I knew that the Bible
was represented stand on my word. So then I started
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opening scriptures. I spoke about healing and I'm like, okay, God,
no harm will come to her, and this is what
your word says about healing. And so I got another
obgyn because I'm like, God has shown me like no
harm is going to come to this child. And the
other obgyn she was like, you know, I'm going to
be optimistic, but I'm going to tell you there is
a scare and a concern. So we need to get
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a specialist doctor, you know, involved, and we need to
walk this carefully. All of a sudden, everything that was
a concern started being reversed. So initially they're like, we
don't have that. You're gonna have room for this baby
to grow. The doctor is like, oh, you got room
for two.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
There were things about what the location of the fibers.
The fibers said that moving on their own. They stead
of calling my daughter a soccer player, they're like, she's
just kicking them up and down. Everything that they said,
God turned it around, you know. But the keithing is
getting that word from God and I believe that's why
in the business of our lives, God still finds that
place when we're sleeping to speak to us and show us, like,
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I know, everything in your world is telling you this
is not going to work, but I'm showing you that
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You talk about it in the book about how the Bible,
the Bible, and science talk about the benefits of getting.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I never heard that from the Bible.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Yeah, because Biblically, you know, we are body, soul, and spirit.
And I think so many times, even in like Christianity,
we only focus on like, you know, the things we
got to do, like the spirit, the soul realm. But
there is like your body, and in other force, you
have to be a good steward over your body, you know,
you have to. There are things that even as believers,
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is just as important and eat eating well just as
important as working out, because the body is the vehicles
the thing that carries your spirit. There's a thing that
embodies your soul. So if your body is not healthy,
that's not good stewardship, you know. So when you're able
to get proper rest, and there's such a connection between
you know, science and even you know, our spirituality because
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from a scientific standpoint, when you don't have enough rest,
you have brain fog that that affects your ability to
even remember your dreams. Because when you wake up and
you come out of this place where you had an
encounter or X, Y and Z, your body needs to
be healthy enough to process what was just deposited. And
so if you're not getting enough rest, it's very similar
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to you know, a computer, Like if you only allow
your computer to die every single time, it causes memory
loss over time.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Same thing.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
If you only go to bed when you feel like
shut down, like you're completely exhausted and you just crash,
it's harder for you to remember your dreams because that
also affects memory loss, you know, when you're waking up
from those moments. And so being a good steward is
looking at every part. Even the Bible talks about, you know,
when the Lord this talks about you prospering, you know,
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in all things right, not just in your spirit, but
in your soul, in your body. So there's a scripture
that talks about bring your whole body, your whole soul,
and your whole spirit blameless before God. So he's after
everything that be a good Steward because it all connects.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
There's a part of your book where you talk about
part two, like I guess it's part three of part
I mean part four of part two.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
The source of your dreams?
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Are there bad sources of dreams where it's like, if
this dream comes from this, you should not try interpret it.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And leave it there.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
No absolutely, And the key thing sometimes you may not
even know exactly where the dream came from, because there's
some things that people call nightmares and they're really warning dreams.
So when you that's why, like I go, I have
this whole process of like you know, step by step
when it comes to interpreting, and there's a part where
by that time you might be able to discern like
did this come from God?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Did this come from the enemy.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
But in the beginning, I always tell people write every
dream down because on surface level you may never see
it right until you get into the weeds of it.
But a dream can literally come from Satan, and how
that happens is based on what you agree with. You know,
the Bible talks about how can two people walk together
except they be agreed, and we don't find out. We
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don't recognize the times where we are opening ourselves up
to agreement with things that come from a demonic realm.
And what that looks like is some horror movies. Even
in the industry, they will tell you there are directors
that will literally tell you that when they were writing
the script, there were real spells, you know, real spells
and witchcraft used in the script. And so when you're
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watching the movie before going to bed or in the afternoon,
you're opening yourself up to something that is beyond entertainment.
And then when you go to bed now you start
having some weird dreams and you're like, wait, where did
this come from?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Like what is going on here?
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Because there was an access given to that, you know,
it's the same reason why someone would just start having
like there are these weird scenarios like even when you
think of, you know, families for example, like when people
want to question, you know, things with the demonoicrome, when
you see some weird patterns in families. You know, every
man at this age something happened to them. The moment
they hit thirty, this happened to him, the moment they
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hit forty, this happened to them. All the way back
to their great great grandfather but that shows you demonic influence.
And how it happens for us is that there are
all kinds of things, whether it's in media, it's in
you know, the things that we're consuming, reading, watching, listening
to and we don't see that we're opening ourselves up,
and then the enemy starts showing us things and dreams
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that we're like, wait, how, like where's this coming from?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
You know, what about DejaVu?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Oh, deja vu? I think has been so misinterpreted. You know,
when people think deja vu, they make it seem like spooky,
and it's really not. You know, you're dealing with a
god who knew your end from your beginning. And there
are times most people have DejaVu doing the most random things.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
It's like you're shopping and then you're.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Like, I've been here, Like what is happening? And what
God is communicating to that person oftentimes is your life
may feel mundane, your life may feel boring, you may
feel like there's nothing going on for me. But this
place in your life. I wrote it even before you
were born. I knew this moment in your life. And
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it's an encouragement to people to know that even though
it just feels like nothing is really happening, or I
don't feel like I'm where I'm supposed to be. God
is showing you. But this moment of your life is
known by me. You're on track, You're in the right
place at the right.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Time a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Now, the power of dreams is fascinating because I do
believe that it's just it's God speaking to us. I
think it's glimpses into other dimensions.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Like I've never had somebody that.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
I was close to pass and they haven't visited me
in a dream at least at least once.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
And some of them are more clear than others.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Right, Like my grandmother came to me and told me
she saw my niece when my niece was born. Right
are my homegirl Michelle came to me and told me
thank you for something right I've had. But my homegirl
Jazz came to me in a dream. I went chasing
after her. She didn't want to be bothered. That's the
only one out of all of them that confused me.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
That's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You literally didn't want to be bothered. He was like,
let me alone.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
No, But that's a great thing because again, when dreams
with people that have passed on. The things that you
should be worried about if you see in the dream
is if they're leading you somewhere, if you're chasing them
and they're kind of telling you come on. If they're
driving a car, you're in the car.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Those are scared. You should pray about that.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
So you chasing her and she's like, leave me alone.
It is so that because where she's going, you should
not be there because you still have an assignment on
this earth.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
So you chasing her.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
It's almost like you're trying to like, hey, let me
go with you, and she's like no, no, no, no no.
So it's not even about her not wanting to be bothered,
it's the spirit behind that, like, yo, you should not
be wear I'm at right now. So I think it
would be interesting if you think back on where you
were in that time of life headspace, because that could
even speak to you about why you saw that in
your dream.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
What about car accidents?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Car accident is something to really like pray for, just
for direction in your life.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
If you're a passenger, you know, wasn't driving, but you were.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
A passenger, then like it depends on.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
You were in a bus Okay, explain the dream. Let's
do a dissection.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I was I was just in a bus and I
don't remember.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
For some reason, I feel like I remember the person
being intoxicated that was driving a bus.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I don't know why that was a thing.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, and I was on a bus and then the
bus went, it started driving, then it started to like fish,
and then it flipped over.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
So when you're looking like a bus, when it's a card,
it's very lot Oftentimes it's more personal. Right when you're
looking at a bus and you're looking at a corporate setting,
and then the person who is in leading driving the
bus is not even in their right mind, so they're intoxicated.
So that could speak to several things. One, it could
speak to something that you are a part of that
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it is like, it could be a corporation. It could
be something that you're connected to, something that has a
corporate set into it. But the person who is in charge,
whether it's the CEO, whether it's you know, whoever, is
making the decisions, calling the shots. Because everything, anything, that,
everything in life has movement, right, so even the things
you're part of in the naturally could just seem like
you're part of a company or you're doing X, Y
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and Z. But all of this is speaking to movement
in your life. And so on one hand, that could
be the Lord's showing you like, hey, this, then you're
a part of the person who is the head is
not the person that should be leading this. And if
you are connected to this, when they crash, you all
are going to be affected. Right, So that's one side.
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Another side of it could also be and it's just
to see where you are in life, what is really
speaking to you more right, So then you examine your
life like, hey, what am I part of?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
What company?
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Am I a part of? What business am I involved in?
And who is who is the head? Because whenever this crashes,
I'm going to be involved. Or if you're in a
space in your life, because then it's entertainment and there
was something maybe you were going out in a few
weeks and if there was a party bus and that
could just be a signed where the Lord is like, hey,
don't be a part of that. So when you also
look at what's taking place in your wake in life,
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it helps you also discern like what God could be speaking.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
To this, feel like the conversation with you about dreams
in the book feels like how people go and get
like can you read my palm? And but it's I
know it's different. And growing up in a church, my grandma,
she don't play that we're not allowed to do that
type of stuff. But then pastors will prophesize to you,
what is why can we do one thing but not
the other?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
That's a great question.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
So when you look at the spiritual realm, just like
in life, right, there's good, there's evil. The spiritual realm,
there's good, there's evil. So you know when you are
doing things from and evil is really just a counterfeit
of that good. So from a Christian perspective, you know, Jesus,
God speaks to us, right, and even like prophecy. Prophecy
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again is that it's not even like this weird thing.
It's literally just accessing the mind of God concerning the person.
So it's just like if you're praying, Let's say you're
praying for envy, right, and you're like, God, what are
your thoughts about envy? And then all of a sudden
and we all have access to this when you have
the Holy Spirit, because there's so many things God wants
to show you about people and so it's just like, God,
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what are your thoughts about envy? And then the Holy
Spirit might start showing you things about him.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Envy that is not.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Get it together. That's what I pray.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
This is that figure like when somebody is being evil
or they joking, like because pray for her eyelashes, right,
and it's to the point where it's like, just joke
too much, there's no baby, continue on.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
None of that much.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
But then.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
But the beauty is it's coming from God, right, and
what comes from Him is for your good. This is
and first of all, it is the source that you
can trust because it's the source that created you. It's
a source that knows your life. It is a source
that is for you. When you go to someone reading
your poems, a terror card reader, a psychic, the source
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is demonic. Now I grew up, I grew up in
Nigeria and we've seen it though I've seen it even
in from from even some family members right who are
not on the other side. But the source of that
is very demonic and the goal. So for example, someone
goes to a psychic, the psychic can tell you everything
about your life that has been is known, what your
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grandmother were when she know she got married. It's a
known information in the spiritual realm. So yes, God can
reveal that to someone, but the enemy can also reveal
that to someone as well. The enemy can tell someone
where you live, your address, how many kids you have,
what you were doing yesterday, because it's past information, it's
past knowledge. It's known now when you don't know. That's
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why the Bible believer in says you shall know them
by their fruits, not by what they tell you, not
by the fact that they have knowledge about you. Because
many people can have knowledge about you, but the source
of it can either be demonic or it can be God.
But the motive is where it changes. So when you're
receiving a message that's coming from God, the motive is
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for your growth. Right, Jesus will say that I have
come to give you life and life more abundantly. But
then when it comes to Satan, he has come to
still care and destroy. So the psychic comes.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
You go.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Someone goes to a psychic, the psychic tells them what
their grandfather wore when they died.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
They start crying.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Now they're open, they're like, oh my gosh, how did
you know? And the psychic just keeps going, keeps going,
buys their trust, and the motive is to curse you.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
It may not.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Happen that day, but it happens over time. Then from
there the psychic would say, oh, you're gonna have three marriages.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
But what did they just do?
Speaker 5 (36:27):
They cursed your first marriage, so they just spoke to
you that you'll get married the first time, but it's
not gonna work out. You get married the second time,
it's not gonna work out, and then you're gonna get
maried the third time.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
So they just and you're in agreement.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
With it, you're eating it up. So you literally opened
yourself up for them to curse you. So it takes
They want to get you in and then but the
spirit behind it, Satan cannot can only take you where
he's going. He cannot give you anything else, so he
can tell you all these nice things you want to hear.
But after they buy your trust, then they start telling
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you things that now you're scared. You're like, oh my gosh,
you're like, no, but X, Y and Z. But what
they're doing, the motive of that is to get you
off track. It's so that you don't know where you're like,
you're not walking in the path that God has for you.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
And that's the difference question.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
You know, when people do pray, it's some of the
prayers frivolous, like for instance, like if somebody prays for
their team, right not pray to be healthy or to
be safe during the game, or pray their team wins.
Or Lauren prays for a man or Charlamagne praise to be.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
A little taller and pray for that.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Like how do those type of prayers work when it
comes to it's one of those things where write it
off or is it one of those things to honestly
to pray for things that like I pray that the
Giants win next week.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Is that's not a real prayer.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Or is it?
Speaker 5 (37:43):
No? I think wherever God is so kind, you know,
just like when you have a kid. When a child
is a baby, you know, they want to get into
all kinds of things. You don't get mad about that.
There's some things they want to get into if it
doesn't really hurt them. You even help them, like hey,
let me lift you up so you can paint the walls.
You know, as you get older, you naturally grow to
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a place where you're like, I don't want to paint
the couch, Let me paint on the paper, right, the
same thing, and I'll walk with God. When you come
to know the Lord in the beginning, those beginning stages
of growing and getting to know him, they are random
things you can ask for and sometimes he would just
randomly do them, you know. And there's some things you
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know like.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
Oh my God, I remember about these people at all.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
But it's like God is just so kind in that way.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Now, it doesn't mean that just because you're like, man,
I pray the giants win and guys, I all get
the giants gonna win. But as you grow in God,
you start to understand that. You know, the power of
prayer is when you pray in alignment with His will.
But you have to first know his will, so that
takes maturity, right. But when you're still in that, like
you know, stage of being like a baby, they're random
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things you can ask and sometimes he will do some
random things just to show you he hears you and
he loves you.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
How can he follow you, Stephanie, Well, look at the
first had to pick up the book.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah, yeah's crazy here. I used to watch you preach person.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
I love that. No, I'm on Instagram Stephanie E k
I k E and then have a YouTube channel Stephanie
A k okafor yeah TikTok Stephanie K Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
You preach to yeah Okay, okay okay. One church.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
One of the book and where people can get it.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
The Power of Your Dreams, and it's available everywhere books.
So then it has a Spanish edition coming out in November.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
A guide to hearing and understanding how God speaks while you.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Why you sleep?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
All right, Well, before we get about here, let's let's
close on a prayer.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Yes, yes, yes, And even before we close, I just
want to share a few things because every time I
come to a place, I'm always asking the Lord just
to show me, like what he's showing about not just
the people that will listen to this, but the people
that are on here. And very quickly, Charlottagne, even when
you share that story about what you saw as a teenager,
there is a protection that has always been around your life.
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And this is a general everybody has got protecting them.
But what I'm saying is that what God showed me
concerning you is when you think about some of the
things that you got yourself involved in, you should not
by any right be where you are today, and there
is a covering. There are things that God has saved
you from. There are things that God has protected you
from when you think of your physical life and also
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your image, and it's because there is something very unique.
There's a very unique assignment to your life that has
to be fulfilled. And I believe that it's not things
that the way he showed me, it's almost as dope.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Because you're a very smart man.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
You might see it and you'll question yourself out of it.
And it would be your kids that will tell you
what it is. And to not discount their voices when
they tell you, like, hey, Dad, I think you're supposed
to do. But it's literally the voice of God to
you because there's something that God has been preserving you
for that you must do on this earth. And what
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he showed me is that the confirmation of what that is.
You wouldn't you know it, but you reject it. But
your kids will be the one that will tell you
that very thing. And when they do, and maybe they
have walk in that path because there is you're going
to see so much favor beyond what you've ever known.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
And amen, And even when I was.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Praying, first of all, I love you, know how you've
been on the show and there's just such like this
journalist and maybe you I don't know if you are
okay beautiful because I'm like, oh my gosh, like how
she thinks, how she's which I used to help me
because would be rough and you would be on You're
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always so happy.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
But even when I saw concerning you, how God is
going to bring you in their rooms, whether it's like
the breakfast club and different things, but there are rooms
that God is going to bring you in. And there
is such a light about you. You're more grounding to
the Word than people know you to be. But the
reason that God is opening doors for you is because
of the world that He's put in you. And so
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it goes beyond what's on your resume, It goes beyond
what you have experience, and it goes beyond the people
that you know.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
But that to.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Not shy away from speaking his word, to not shy away.
There are moments I just kept seeing how the Holy
Spirit would even give you words about people like you
be around them and there's something you're sensing, but it's like,
should I say it?
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Should I not say it?
Speaker 5 (42:40):
And he's like no, But that's why I brought you
in the room, so that you can say what I
put in your heart. It's beyond me just adding something
else to your resume. It's because I need your There's
an influence that sometimes we would have because of the
word God wants to get out there. And I remember
even as I was God showed me this, not you,
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if anyone who knows the story, I'm not talking about
you in the way of Pharaoh, but it was literally
like Pharaoh in the times of Egypt where there was
gonna be a famine, And the person God brought the
word to was not Joseph, the person who was like
walking with the Lord, but it was Pharaoh because he
had influence over nations. He had influence to execute the
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plan of God. And then Joseph was able to interpret
the dream that helped him to do that. But when
he showed me this, it was in the sense where
God will bring you to places because you have influence
in the room, you have influence with people, but it's
because of what He wants you to execute with your voice,
so to not shy away from that.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
And then finally DJ envy with you.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
It was so beautiful because the first thing I saw
was God's love and it was almost this thing where
you not It's like you had this wall right and
it's like you used to protect yourself. You're used to
kind of like keeping people out so you can control
the narrative. But as you're doing that, you're also keeping
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yourself out of the reckless love of God and how
he wants to show up for you. And what I
kept seeing was, yes, you have questions, Yes there are things,
because I saw it almost like where you know, even
when it comes to faith, Like one of the things
is like, you know, but if this person who didn't
know you dies, like what happens to them?
Speaker 3 (44:26):
You know?
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Where you have all these questions that are intelligent and
smart questions, but to really step into the why behind
it requires surrender. And what I just kept showing, what
God kept showing me, was you come into a deeper
place of surrender in your life and it is going
to open. It literally felt like a damn bursting out
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what he wants to do, because there are many things
he wants to bring you into that you don't even
know about yourself yet, but that if you have this wall.
Then it's not just keeping people out, it's keeping his
voice out, is kipping his word out. But I just
saw like this love of God that is chasing after you.
And it was almost like someone just like, hey, let
me in. I'm right here. And regardless of the things
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you've experienced in life, their answers that it's almost like
their questions, he's not afraid to answer.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
But you have to.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
There's a will, there's a surrender that needs to take
place first. But yeah, David, yes, yes, yes, Heavenly Father,
we thank you for just everything you've done in this moment.
Lord God, we thank you even in talking about this book,
because it's really not about just getting a book out,
but it's really about getting people to be awakened to
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knowing that you speak, and you desire to speak to them,
whether they're awake or whether they're asleep. But even the
power of their dreams. Many people are ignoring their dreams
in this time, and there are world you're trying to
alert them about their warnings. You want to make them
aware of their ways, you want to prepare them, there
are ways you want to encourage them. And so Lord,
I just pray that you will continue to be glorified
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and in and through everything that we do. We love you, Lord,
We thank you in Jesus' name.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Amen, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Thankfine e k ok for yeah right, come.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
On, that's the breakfast Thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Wake that answer up in the morning for Breakfast Club.
Wake that ass up in the morning. The breakfast Club. Morning,
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club. Yes,
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We have passed the Stephanie E. K okafor did I
say it right?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
You said it good?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Okay, thank you so much, welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Cool to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I feel good.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
You related to the basketball player?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
No, okay, okay, got you, got you, got you, got you?
You got a new book out not a power of
your dreams. Yeah, I love a good dream book. I'm
the type of person that I keep dream books by
my bedside. When I wake up, I can look and
see what certain things mean that will got you into
wanting to write this book.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
No.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
So, I encountered God when I was nine years old,
and one of the ways that was so consistent was
that He will speak to me through dreams. And it's
interesting when you talk about, you know, using like having
books that tell you about symbols and things like that,
because I think one of the reasons why maybe sometimes
people don't even understand the fullness of their dream is
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because they pick it apart, and the whole dream is
telling the message. So if you only pick it apart,
you may not understand the fullness of it. But dreams
has been so consistent for me ever since nine years old.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
That is a great point because I never look at
the whole totality of my dream.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I find like one thing that that stood out.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
It's like a web MD of dreams where people like
get books or go on Google and you're like, you
only look at one thing. And that's one of the
things I talk about in the book, where you have
to look at it like a whole story and to
understand in each symbol to tell the you know, kind
of like tell what is the dreams really saying?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
That you said you had an account with God at
the age of nine, Yeah, what was that encounter? What
did he say? What was that conversation? What just enlightened
us with what it was?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
So my father was murdered when I was eight months old,
and so I grew up with like a lot of anger.
And there was one day that you know, my mom
was looking for this document and I was just like
it was something that she really needed. You know for
the times that we were in and I was like, man, God,
you know, if you didn't take my father, it was
just another reason why I got angry again. But that
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day literally like, I remember being in my room and
I could feel like a presence in my room, but
it wasn't scary. But then for a nine year old,
it's like, bruh, who's in my room? You know? And
I won't I go to my mom's room because I'm like,
whatever is going on there, I don't want no part
of it. So I got my mom's room. She's and
she's up, she's in her bed. She's like, what are
you doing. I was like, oh, and I just want to,
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you know, sleep, sleep in your room. She's like, okay,
hop in. So the moment I hop in her bed,
she's out cold, like not moving, not responding, and I
feel the same presence again in her room. And I
didn't really believe in God at that age, but my
mom has always been a strong believer, and so I
didn't even know. Now I knew it was the Holy Spirit,
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then I didn't realize what made me ask the question.
And I was like, God, if this is of you?
Because I was thinking Okay, if this is my mom's God,
he can't harm me. I'm like, if this is of you,
cause win to flow through my ankles, and they were
out of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
The windows are not open. Nothing there was.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Like this wind that just flows through me. Because with
my eyes closed, I could see a man sitting but
his home makeup was like light. So then I removed
like the covers of my eyes and I see him
with my eyes open, sitting there and he gets up.
He walks over to my mom and I start asking
him questions because I thought it was God.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
And I was like, where were you with my dad?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Dad?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Did da da da da?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
And he starts saying something. I had no clue what
he was saying. He walks over to my mom. He
opens her hand, he puts like this piece of paper
in her hand, closes, it disappears. So when that happened,
my mom gets up and I was like, Mom, so
I opened her hand, there's nothing there.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I'm like, Mom, like this just happened. Da da da
da dah.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
She was like, Stephanie, I thought it was God. I
was like, God was in the room, and she's like,
I don't think it works like that. So she goes
back to bed. She's like, Stephanie, I think you're tripping.
She wakes up that morning, her pastor calls her and
he was like, Hey, I was in prayer and I
just feel like to tell you that there was an
angelic encounter in your home. But he didn't know to
the degree of what he was even saying. And I
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was like, Mom, I'm telling you, this happened randomly. The
document we had been literally ripping the whole house apart
for just shows up on the table and then I'm like, wait,
was that the document? Like was that what it symbolized?
Like they put in our hand? And so I'm like,
oh my gosh, I met God. And then I stood
at hearing the voice of God and it was like, dude,
that was not me. That was an angel. And then
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he starts describing to me who angels are, but then
points me to read the Bible. I had never really
read the Bible, tells me what scriptures to read.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I could hear it so clearly.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
And I'm like, Mom, I need a Bible. I need
like a study a kid's Bible. And I'm like, so
she's the one guiding me where to go to to
read those scriptures, and I'm literally seen in the scripture
when it talks about angels and X, Y and Z.
And after that, it was like something just unlocked for
me spiritually. I said that, hearing the voice of God,
I will have encounters and dreams. Some dreams was like
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a very like no, just it didn't even need to
be explained. The dream was literally like an encounter. And
then some dreams were just like symbols that had hidden
messages in it, and that became like my life ever since.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Then.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
What did the angel look like?
Speaker 4 (05:12):
It looked like Homie from the Crossroads video.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
It was so he had like a he had a
human form, but the only difference his home makeup was light.
That was everything about him was like light radiating. So
I couldn't even tell you what he how to describe
his features because it was just light y.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I just want to say I believe her because I've
seen the same thing exactly like that.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
How old were you?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I was actually old.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
That was in my teenage years, and I remember laying
in the bed sleeping and I thought I was dreaming,
and it looked like my bedroom door burst it open.
And when it bursted open, it was just this figure
that was light. Yeah, it had a human form. I
couldn't see, but it had a human form, but it
was just light.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yeah. What happened after that?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
You seeing aliens? To an alien came and got them too.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
I could tell you stories as we called them aliens,
but they're really just monic spirits.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh, I believe aliens shot him in the lake.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Tell the story that we're having a real conversation about God,
but he would try to interduce you.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
She said that, like when she confirmed that you probably
saw demonic it just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It sits well with.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Me, Like yeah, because angels really come in a way
that their their presence, their essence is so radiating. But
then they're also you can also have encounters with demonic spirits.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
That's also fair. I've had. I could tell too many stories.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Is it a mission that you feel like from seeing
that and from having those conversations, do you feel like
you were sent on a mission to do something? And
do you know what that mission is?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
If so, I think not even I think everyone has
their angels assigned to everyone on this earth. Like life
is not just physical, it is it's actually more spiritual
than physical. I think the difference is that there are
times that you know, based on how God is working
with someone, that he might open your eyes to see
things at a younger age, and if you're not scared
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of it, if you don't run from it, and even
if you do, you can always come back to the
place where you're like, God, maybe I was scared, but
show me again. And I believe that part of my
calling even on Earth, is really to awaken people to
the supernatural because it governs everything that we do in
the natural realm. I was going to say, like, for you,
it was a lot more clear, but like I've had
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like not encounters or I saw something, but where things
have happened, I'm like, that's nothing but God, and I'll
be like, God, do it again, so I know that
this is like the thing, and then He'll do it again.
So I myself, I'm always like, no, my faith is
strong because He's talked to me show But it took
a couple of times. Some people think they're hearing things,
but it might not be clear that is God to them.
How do you coach people through being able to let
that voice break through and understanding it is God. Yeah,
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I think One of the key things is from this
the fun fundational element of it. Right, you don't need
to read the Bible for God to speak to you,
but you need to have an understanding of His voice
in the Bible so that you're not deceived by the
voices you hear. And so when you have a good
foundation of knowing the voice of God, even in his word,
then when you begin to hear him or you see
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things in the book. One of the things I talk about,
even before I get into the subject of dreams, are
the different ways we experience God's voice.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, the four primary way.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
So there are some people who they are feelers, right,
they can you know, God has emotions. The Bible talks
about so many types of emotions. Peace, you know, love, anger,
all these things. So there are people that you might
walk into a room there's a deal on the table
for you, everything checks off, But then you don't. You're
not at peace with this. Something is like messing up
with you, Like, I don't think this is for me.
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The problem is that if we don't have a god
consciousness about life, we think it's us feeling that way.
But the Lord is trying to share his emotions with you. Like, hey,
I'm not in that. You know, it might look good
on paper, but I'm not in that. So those are
people that feel. There are people that know. There's some
people that just have an instinctive knowing, and for many
that is more heightened when you're a kid like you
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and meet a child and you're like, what do you
want to be? You know, sometimes they just say random stuff,
but they're kids that just know what they want to
be and it has nothing connected to their parents, like
their family members were never in that field of work.
But they see something, they're exposed to something, and they
just have a knowing. Wait, I'm supposed to be in
this field. I'm supposed to do this. I'm supposed to
be an actress. And it's just this instinctive knowing. Because
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there's a beauty with being a child, there's not. Your
intelligence is not in the way the older we get
our wisdom blocks us from discerning the voice of God
because we're trying to you know, I'll think it. We're
overthinking it, rather like where did this come from? Where
did that come from? And then there's the hearers. There
are people who you know audibly, it's more rare to
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hear the voice of God audibly now, but you can
also he also speaks in a form of So there
are these distinctive thoughts or series of thoughts that you
would really like hear in your head. And it has
nothing to do with how you would naturally think, how
you would naturally like, you know, think about a matter.
The same way that anxiety has a voice, you know,
pain has a voice. The Lord also speaks to you
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through your thoughts and then they're seers. And that's where
dreams come in.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Right.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
There are people where you're dreaming, you see visions. There's
something called open visions where you might even be you
feel as though you were somewhere and then you're back
in your body, you know. But all these things are
ways that we can experience the voice of God. But
the foundation is if you don't know how he speaks
in the Bible, then you can easily get deceived.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
So knowing, hearing, seeing and seeing, yes, So how do
you break down some of those those dreams? Right? Could
you talk about the power of your Dreamsah, I'm sure.
Probably the biggest dream that people have, I'm sure is
somebody falling. Yeah, and so what does that mean when
somebody is falling or when you when people feel like
they see somebody coming in from their past life.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You said, passed like like a loved one who passed away.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, like a loved one that passed away. You know what,
For me, it's I remember when my my wife's father
passed away, right, And it was the weirdest thing. We
had balloons downstairs. Yeah, and it was her birthday, and
my wife, out of nowhere, just started thinking about her dad.
And I don't know if this was whatever it was,
but out of nowhere, like midnight one am, the balloons
that were in the kitchen actually blew up the stairs
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and came into the bedroom.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It freaked me the fuck out. Freaked me the fuck out.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
That helium balloons.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, they were healing balloons. Yeah, of course they would
rise even thinks.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Up the stairs and.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Experience with God.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
But it could have went to any one of the
bedrooms in the house.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It went right to the bench.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
That's why you're talking an alien shot him in the
foot exactly.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
No, I believe I believe that was I believe that
was it. I believe that was a sign. I believe
that was him. I really do. I'm not doing this sound.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yes, no, but it was out of my house, out
of any where those balloons could have went. And the
fact that she was talking about her dad and crying
for him several hours earlier just made me feel like them.
There are signs and there are angels. So how do
you you know, I guess, break down different dreams. What
do the different dreams mean?
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Yeah, So in the book I talk about just different
types of dreams, because the key thing, even before you
get into that, is to know why we dream, right God,
I mean? And their dreams can come from different places.
A dream can come from you, a dream can come
from God. A dream can come from you know, the enemy.
But when it comes from God. God has a desire
to has a desire to speak to us more than
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we even desire to hear from him. Because regardless of
where we find ourselves in life, regardless of how successful
we perceive ourselves to be, regardless of all the things
we have going on on, we are first His creation
and there's something there. Your life is not random. He
desires to do life with you, He desires.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
To partner with you.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
And so there are types of dreams like especially when
people see their loved ones who had passed on. Those
could be encouragement dreams. Now, how the dream is presented matters,
because when someone passes away, they are they lose consciousness
of the physical realm. But that does not mean that
who they are, their essence is gone. Right, They're transitioning
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to a different life, you know, whether that's with the
Lord or you know the opposite. Nobody wants that, but
they're transitioning now to like an eternal life, you know,
in the spiritual realm. But they don't technically have You
can see them in dreams and most people.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Would have, you know, these dreams.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Where they don't speak, they just appear, They just show themselves, right,
because those realms are now they're different realms, right, So
you might see them in a dream, and the purpose
of that dream is just the Lord trying to bring
comfort to you and in purage you that, yes you
don't have your loved one with you, but they're not
fully absent, They're not fully just gone. You know who
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they are, the core of who they are, like their
spirit man is still with him.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
What about the opposite side of that scale, the dream
where you dream that you die.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
That is a dream that now that could be warning dreams.
So we had this was president This was President Lincoln,
I believe. So he had a dream right before he
was assassinated. He literally had a warning dream. And in
the dream, he's walking, you know, through the White House
and he hears people mourning and he's like, hey, what's
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going on? And somebody tells him in the dream the
president has been assassinated, and he's like wait what And
he's literally watching them mourn him, and he's like almost
like a funeral service. He wakes up. The problem is
he has that type of dream. So it's recorded that
he told people close to him the dream. But then
if no one understands, like, hey, regardless of who you are,
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is still trying to get a message to you. If
he understood the weight of the dream, he would have
counseled every activity that was coming up. But he kept
his scheduleized normal and a few days after that he
was assassinated.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Doesn't that doesn't that, I guess the right word is
the gate. Doesn't that negate your faith in God? If
you do that, if somebody, if you have a dream
and something bad it's gonna happen to you, and then
you just automatically cancel everything.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's like, where does God come in the plane.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You know, we have this thing where we say, like,
you know, is God in control of life and all
these things? Yes, But the Bible says, the earth has
he given to man? Now what that means is that
let me even go go back a little bit.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Even Jesus.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Right before Jesus could do what he was purpose to
do on earth, he had to come through a human
vessel in order to execute it. Now, this is God.
God is eternal, God is all powerful. He could have
just spoken and rewritten history. But in order for us
to be read, Jesus had to come through the flesh.
Why because the flesh gives you legal rights to.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Do things on earth.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
So when we look at God, there's a reason why
God desires to partner with us. It's just like even
the reason we pray. You know, why would Jesus tell
us when you pray, not if you pray. The reason
we pray is because we're saying, hey, God, I'm in
agreement with what you're doing and you can do it
through me. The Bible also talks about that before God reveals,
Before God.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Does anything, he reveals.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
It the Bible says to his servants, the prophets, it's
not even about people being prophets per se, but that
there is this prophetic stream that someone needs to be
aware of what God wants to do so that they
can partner with him in prayer. And so when God
reveals something to you in a dream, God doesn't speak
to gossip or just to be like, hey, heads up.
He speaks so that there is partnership. There is something
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that needs to be counseled, there is something that needs
to change. I'll give you an example. I had a
dream one day and in the dream I saw a
calendar and on the calendarough there was a particular date
circled in red. And then in the dream, I hear
pray for your brother concerning that day. So I wake
up from the dream. My brother's in Chicago. He flips
properties in Chicago, and I tell him I was like, hey,
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on this day, be really careful about your movements, right,
And so I just start praying, and I just start
praying for God's protection over him. I'm like, whatever has
been a sign to his life, because I literally saw death,
and I'm like, whatever is trying to you know, take
him before his time. God just cancel it in prayer.
That day comes, my brother is going to his property,
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just a regular checkup, and a car starts following him.
He didn't notice it at first, and then he makes
a turn. He's like, wait, let me just make sure
he makes a random turn.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Dayturn.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
He makes a left turn, day turn left, he makes
another right on dayturn right, and then he looks and
he's like, oh, they're probably trying to like steal from him.
And this is Chicago, Chicago even they might want to
steal bread from you and shoot you, you know. So
now he's like he just comes to a place where
he's like okay, Like God, give me wisdom how to
navigate this. And he mentioned like he didn't even know.
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Something just took over. It's almost like telling him how
to drive right. And then he loses them. So he
calls me right after. He was like, Yo, the craziest
thing happened today. And I told him, I say, bro,
what's today? And I'm like, go go back to the
message I sent you, like what's today?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
And he looks.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
It was that day that God literally showed me in
the dreams circled and read, So how I partner with
God was to say, God, your purpose is that nothing
happens to my brother, But someone on earth needs to
come in agreement with that because there is something Because
even when you look at terrorist shootings and all these things,
it goes beyond a person, you know, a mental health issue.
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You have someone who is influenced by a.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Spirit to do that.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
And so that day, why God gave a warning ahead
of time is because there is something that is beyond
people just trying to steal from him. There is a
spirit that has influenced those people because of an agenda
that was not of God. And so that is why
prayer is important. When you you see a dream and
you see yourself dying, or you see a family member dying,
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doing nothing is coming in agreement with that narrative.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
And and pray against pray against it and with Jesus.
It's so simple.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
It's not even like you got to do all this hoopla.
It's literally coming in agreement to say, you know what, Lord,
I'm speaking life into this person's life. No harm will
come before them. And so that shows us the supernatural
powers of God that even when we feel like we
got it all together, He's like no. If I partner
with you, we could, you could, you would really get
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this life right. The reason why when another coming dream
is when people see themselves in school or in a
classroom and they're trying to take a test and they
keep failing the test because God is trying to tell them, hey,
there's a different season of life you're supposed to be
stepping into, and you're you're not You're you're missing it right.
You're still in an old season and you're still stuck there.
And so he's trying to show people like, there's more
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I have for you, but because you're not seeing it right,
you're so comfortable where you are that you're missing the
test to get you to the next place.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Talk about if you if you feel comfortable about the
time you went to the doctor and God told you
something different than what your doctor told you.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Oh that that happened to me. You know.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
So when I was pregnant, I have I have a daughter.
When I was pregnant with my daughter, I started experiencing
like a lot of pain, and you know, we go
rush the go to the go to the we are
O B G Y N rather and He's like trying
to you know, even confirm the pregnancy, and he's like, man,
I don't see a pregnancy here. I just see some
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things that does not look good. Like you need to
go to the er. So we rush to the er.
They tell me that I have like these fibroids that
have gone, you know, gotten really big because of the
pregnancy and the blood flow going like to the womb.
So they, you know, we share the results of the
doctor and he literally calls me. He was like, because
of the size of these fireboids, because of the location
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of these fibroids, you need to terminate the pregnancy. And
you need to terminate this, because he was from his analysis,
the baby won't have room to grow and the firebords
could cause and even if you know, we take the
baby to term, the bleeding is going to be too excessive.
And he was like, and he called back to back,
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he was like, I'm telling you you need to terminate
this and try again. Let terminate it. Let's take the
firebords out and try again. Now, Before that, how I
even knew I was pregnant, Not from nine I started
seeing angels and all those things. So right before I
found out I was pregnant, I was in my closet.
I was getting ready for something and this angel appears
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in my closet and doesn't speak. They don't speak like
how we're talking. It's almost like spirit to spirit. And
I just had this knowing that I'm pregnant, and I
was like, and I run downstairs to my husband. I
was like, Babe, I think we're pregnant. So when the
doctor is telling me this, and then I used to
see my daughter in dreams a lot, and I'm like, God,
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you will not go through all of this just so
that I have to terminate this pregnancy. But I also
believe that there are some things we experience in life
that reminds us that we are not doing life by
our own intelligence, because that's to be self dependent. But
I'm doing life with God. So there are things I'm
going to experience in life that only God can see
me through it, and He designed it to be that way.
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And so I remember, like, I'm still in a lot
of pain, and I just like I'm praying and calling
out to God. And that night I have a dream
and the Lord comes to me and says, do are
two key things. He says, no harm is going to
come to your child, and he hands me a Bible,
and when I woke up, I knew that the Bible
was represented stand on my word. So then I started
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opening scriptures. I spoke about healing and I'm like, okay, God,
no harm will come to her, and this is what
your word says about healing. And so I got another
obgyn because I'm like, God has shown me like no
harm is going to come to this child. And the
other obgyn she was like, you know, I'm going to
be optimistic, but I'm going to tell you there is
a scare and a concern. So we need to get
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a specialist doctor, you know, involved, and we need to
walk this carefully. All of a sudden, everything that was
a concern started being reversed. So initially they're like, we
don't have that. You're gonna have room for this baby
to grow. The doctor is like, oh, you got room
for two.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
There were things about what the location of the fibers.
The fibers said that moving on their own. They stead
of calling my daughter a soccer player, they're like, she's
just kicking them up and down. Everything that they said,
God turned it around, you know. But the keithing is
getting that word from God and I believe that's why
in the business of our lives, God still finds that
place when we're sleeping to speak to us and show us, like,
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I know, everything in your world is telling you this
is not going to work, but I'm showing you that
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You talk about it in the book about how the Bible,
the Bible, and science talk about the benefits of getting.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I never heard that from the Bible.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Yeah, because Biblically, you know, we are body, soul, and spirit.
And I think so many times, even in like Christianity,
we only focus on like, you know, the things we
got to do, like the spirit, the soul realm. But
there is like your body, and in other force, you
have to be a good steward over your body, you know,
you have to. There are things that even as believers,
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is just as important and eat eating well just as
important as working out, because the body is the vehicles
the thing that carries your spirit. There's a thing that
embodies your soul. So if your body is not healthy,
that's not good stewardship, you know. So when you're able
to get proper rest, and there's such a connection between
you know, science and even you know, our spirituality because
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from a scientific standpoint, when you don't have enough rest,
you have brain fog that that affects your ability to
even remember your dreams. Because when you wake up and
you come out of this place where you had an
encounter or X, Y and Z, your body needs to
be healthy enough to process what was just deposited. And
so if you're not getting enough rest, it's very similar
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to you know, a computer, Like if you only allow
your computer to die every single time, it causes memory
loss over time.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Same thing.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
If you only go to bed when you feel like
shut down, like you're completely exhausted and you just crash,
it's harder for you to remember your dreams because that
also affects memory loss, you know, when you're waking up
from those moments. And so being a good steward is
looking at every part. Even the Bible talks about, you know,
when the Lord this talks about you prospering, you know,
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in all things right, not just in your spirit, but
in your soul, in your body. So there's a scripture
that talks about bring your whole body, your whole soul,
and your whole spirit blameless before God. So he's after
everything that be a good Steward because it all connects.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
There's a part of your book where you talk about
part two, like I guess it's part three of part
I mean part four of part two.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
The source of your dreams?
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Are there bad sources of dreams where it's like, if
this dream comes from this, you should not try interpret it.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And leave it there.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
No absolutely, And the key thing sometimes you may not
even know exactly where the dream came from, because there's
some things that people call nightmares and they're really warning dreams.
So when you that's why, like I go, I have
this whole process of like you know, step by step
when it comes to interpreting, and there's a part where
by that time you might be able to discern like
did this come from God?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Did this come from the enemy.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
But in the beginning, I always tell people write every
dream down because on surface level you may never see
it right until you get into the weeds of it.
But a dream can literally come from Satan, and how
that happens is based on what you agree with. You know,
the Bible talks about how can two people walk together
except they be agreed, and we don't find out. We
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don't recognize the times where we are opening ourselves up
to agreement with things that come from a demonic realm.
And what that looks like is some horror movies. Even
in the industry, they will tell you there are directors
that will literally tell you that when they were writing
the script, there were real spells, you know, real spells
and witchcraft used in the script. And so when you're
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watching the movie before going to bed or in the afternoon,
you're opening yourself up to something that is beyond entertainment.
And then when you go to bed now you start
having some weird dreams and you're like, wait, where did
this come from?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Like what is going on here?
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Because there was an access given to that, you know,
it's the same reason why someone would just start having
like there are these weird scenarios like even when you
think of, you know, families for example, like when people
want to question, you know, things with the demonoicrome, when
you see some weird patterns in families. You know, every
man at this age something happened to them. The moment
they hit thirty, this happened to him, the moment they
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hit forty, this happened to them. All the way back
to their great great grandfather but that shows you demonic influence.
And how it happens for us is that there are
all kinds of things, whether it's in media, it's in
you know, the things that we're consuming, reading, watching, listening
to and we don't see that we're opening ourselves up,
and then the enemy starts showing us things and dreams
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that we're like, wait, how, like where's this coming from?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
You know, what about DejaVu?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Oh, deja vu? I think has been so misinterpreted. You know,
when people think deja vu, they make it seem like spooky,
and it's really not. You know, you're dealing with a
god who knew your end from your beginning. And there
are times most people have DejaVu doing the most random things.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
It's like you're shopping and then you're.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Like, I've been here, Like what is happening? And what
God is communicating to that person oftentimes is your life
may feel mundane, your life may feel boring, you may
feel like there's nothing going on for me. But this
place in your life. I wrote it even before you
were born. I knew this moment in your life. And
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it's an encouragement to people to know that even though
it just feels like nothing is really happening, or I
don't feel like I'm where I'm supposed to be. God
is showing you. But this moment of your life is
known by me. You're on track, You're in the right
place at the right.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Time a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Now, the power of dreams is fascinating because I do
believe that it's just it's God speaking to us. I
think it's glimpses into other dimensions.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Like I've never had somebody that.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
I was close to pass and they haven't visited me
in a dream at least at least once.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
And some of them are more clear than others.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Right, Like my grandmother came to me and told me
she saw my niece when my niece was born. Right
are my homegirl Michelle came to me and told me
thank you for something right I've had. But my homegirl
Jazz came to me in a dream. I went chasing
after her. She didn't want to be bothered. That's the
only one out of all of them that confused me.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
That's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You literally didn't want to be bothered. He was like,
let me alone.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
No, But that's a great thing because again, when dreams
with people that have passed on. The things that you
should be worried about if you see in the dream
is if they're leading you somewhere, if you're chasing them
and they're kind of telling you come on. If they're
driving a car, you're in the car.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Those are scared. You should pray about that.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
So you chasing her and she's like, leave me alone.
It is so that because where she's going, you should
not be there because you still have an assignment on
this earth.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
So you chasing her.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
It's almost like you're trying to like, hey, let me
go with you, and she's like no, no, no, no no.
So it's not even about her not wanting to be bothered,
it's the spirit behind that, like, yo, you should not
be wear I'm at right now. So I think it
would be interesting if you think back on where you
were in that time of life headspace, because that could
even speak to you about why you saw that in
your dream.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
What about car accidents?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Car accident is something to really like pray for, just
for direction in your life.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
If you're a passenger, you know, wasn't driving, but you were.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
A passenger, then like it depends on.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
You were in a bus Okay, explain the dream. Let's
do a dissection.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I was I was just in a bus and I
don't remember.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
For some reason, I feel like I remember the person
being intoxicated that was driving a bus.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I don't know why that was a thing.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, and I was on a bus and then the
bus went, it started driving, then it started to like fish,
and then it flipped over.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
So when you're looking like a bus, when it's a card,
it's very lot Oftentimes it's more personal. Right when you're
looking at a bus and you're looking at a corporate setting,
and then the person who is in leading driving the
bus is not even in their right mind, so they're intoxicated.
So that could speak to several things. One, it could
speak to something that you are a part of that
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it is like, it could be a corporation. It could
be something that you're connected to, something that has a
corporate set into it. But the person who is in charge,
whether it's the CEO, whether it's you know, whoever, is
making the decisions, calling the shots. Because everything, anything, that,
everything in life has movement, right, so even the things
you're part of in the naturally could just seem like
you're part of a company or you're doing X, Y
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and Z. But all of this is speaking to movement
in your life. And so on one hand, that could
be the Lord's showing you like, hey, this, then you're
a part of the person who is the head is
not the person that should be leading this. And if
you are connected to this, when they crash, you all
are going to be affected. Right, So that's one side.
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Another side of it could also be and it's just
to see where you are in life, what is really
speaking to you more right, So then you examine your
life like, hey, what am I part of?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
What company?
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Am I a part of? What business am I involved in?
And who is who is the head? Because whenever this crashes,
I'm going to be involved. Or if you're in a
space in your life, because then it's entertainment and there
was something maybe you were going out in a few
weeks and if there was a party bus and that
could just be a signed where the Lord is like, hey,
don't be a part of that. So when you also
look at what's taking place in your wake in life,
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it helps you also discern like what God could be speaking.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
To this, feel like the conversation with you about dreams
in the book feels like how people go and get
like can you read my palm? And but it's I
know it's different. And growing up in a church, my grandma,
she don't play that we're not allowed to do that
type of stuff. But then pastors will prophesize to you,
what is why can we do one thing but not
the other?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
That's a great question.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
So when you look at the spiritual realm, just like
in life, right, there's good, there's evil. The spiritual realm,
there's good, there's evil. So you know when you are
doing things from and evil is really just a counterfeit
of that good. So from a Christian perspective, you know, Jesus,
God speaks to us, right, and even like prophecy. Prophecy
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again is that it's not even like this weird thing.
It's literally just accessing the mind of God concerning the person.
So it's just like if you're praying, Let's say you're
praying for envy, right, and you're like, God, what are
your thoughts about envy? And then all of a sudden
and we all have access to this when you have
the Holy Spirit, because there's so many things God wants
to show you about people and so it's just like, God,
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what are your thoughts about envy? And then the Holy
Spirit might start showing you things about him.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Envy that is not.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Get it together. That's what I pray.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
This is that figure like when somebody is being evil
or they joking, like because pray for her eyelashes, right,
and it's to the point where it's like, just joke
too much, there's no baby, continue on.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
None of that much.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
But then.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
But the beauty is it's coming from God, right, and
what comes from Him is for your good. This is
and first of all, it is the source that you
can trust because it's the source that created you. It's
a source that knows your life. It is a source
that is for you. When you go to someone reading
your poems, a terror card reader, a psychic, the source
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is demonic. Now I grew up, I grew up in
Nigeria and we've seen it though I've seen it even
in from from even some family members right who are
not on the other side. But the source of that
is very demonic and the goal. So for example, someone
goes to a psychic, the psychic can tell you everything
about your life that has been is known, what your
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grandmother were when she know she got married. It's a
known information in the spiritual realm. So yes, God can
reveal that to someone, but the enemy can also reveal
that to someone as well. The enemy can tell someone
where you live, your address, how many kids you have,
what you were doing yesterday, because it's past information, it's
past knowledge. It's known now when you don't know. That's
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why the Bible believer in says you shall know them
by their fruits, not by what they tell you, not
by the fact that they have knowledge about you. Because
many people can have knowledge about you, but the source
of it can either be demonic or it can be God.
But the motive is where it changes. So when you're
receiving a message that's coming from God, the motive is
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for your growth. Right, Jesus will say that I have
come to give you life and life more abundantly. But
then when it comes to Satan, he has come to
still care and destroy. So the psychic comes.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
You go.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Someone goes to a psychic, the psychic tells them what
their grandfather wore when they died.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
They start crying.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Now they're open, they're like, oh my gosh, how did
you know? And the psychic just keeps going, keeps going,
buys their trust, and the motive is to curse you.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
It may not.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Happen that day, but it happens over time. Then from
there the psychic would say, oh, you're gonna have three marriages.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
But what did they just do?
Speaker 5 (36:27):
They cursed your first marriage, so they just spoke to
you that you'll get married the first time, but it's
not gonna work out. You get married the second time,
it's not gonna work out, and then you're gonna get
maried the third time.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
So they just and you're in agreement.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
With it, you're eating it up. So you literally opened
yourself up for them to curse you. So it takes
They want to get you in and then but the
spirit behind it, Satan cannot can only take you where
he's going. He cannot give you anything else, so he
can tell you all these nice things you want to hear.
But after they buy your trust, then they start telling
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you things that now you're scared. You're like, oh my gosh,
you're like, no, but X, Y and Z. But what
they're doing, the motive of that is to get you
off track. It's so that you don't know where you're like,
you're not walking in the path that God has for you.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
And that's the difference question.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
You know, when people do pray, it's some of the
prayers frivolous, like for instance, like if somebody prays for
their team, right not pray to be healthy or to
be safe during the game, or pray their team wins.
Or Lauren prays for a man or Charlamagne praise to be.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
A little taller and pray for that.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Like how do those type of prayers work when it
comes to it's one of those things where write it
off or is it one of those things to honestly
to pray for things that like I pray that the
Giants win next week.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Is that's not a real prayer.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Or is it?
Speaker 5 (37:43):
No? I think wherever God is so kind, you know,
just like when you have a kid. When a child
is a baby, you know, they want to get into
all kinds of things. You don't get mad about that.
There's some things they want to get into if it
doesn't really hurt them. You even help them, like hey,
let me lift you up so you can paint the walls.
You know, as you get older, you naturally grow to
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a place where you're like, I don't want to paint
the couch, Let me paint on the paper, right, the
same thing, and I'll walk with God. When you come
to know the Lord in the beginning, those beginning stages
of growing and getting to know him, they are random
things you can ask for and sometimes he would just
randomly do them, you know. And there's some things you
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know like.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
Oh my God, I remember about these people at all.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
But it's like God is just so kind in that way.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Now, it doesn't mean that just because you're like, man,
I pray the giants win and guys, I all get
the giants gonna win. But as you grow in God,
you start to understand that. You know, the power of
prayer is when you pray in alignment with His will.
But you have to first know his will, so that
takes maturity, right. But when you're still in that, like
you know, stage of being like a baby, they're random
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things you can ask and sometimes he will do some
random things just to show you he hears you and
he loves you.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
How can he follow you, Stephanie, Well, look at the
first had to pick up the book.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah, yeah's crazy here. I used to watch you preach person.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
I love that. No, I'm on Instagram Stephanie E k
I k E and then have a YouTube channel Stephanie
A k okafor yeah TikTok Stephanie K Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
You preach to yeah Okay, okay okay. One church.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
One of the book and where people can get it.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
The Power of Your Dreams, and it's available everywhere books.
So then it has a Spanish edition coming out in November.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
A guide to hearing and understanding how God speaks while you.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Why you sleep?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
All right, Well, before we get about here, let's let's
close on a prayer.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Yes, yes, yes, And even before we close, I just
want to share a few things because every time I
come to a place, I'm always asking the Lord just
to show me, like what he's showing about not just
the people that will listen to this, but the people
that are on here. And very quickly, Charlottagne, even when
you share that story about what you saw as a teenager,
there is a protection that has always been around your life.
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And this is a general everybody has got protecting them.
But what I'm saying is that what God showed me
concerning you is when you think about some of the
things that you got yourself involved in, you should not
by any right be where you are today, and there
is a covering. There are things that God has saved
you from. There are things that God has protected you
from when you think of your physical life and also
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your image, and it's because there is something very unique.
There's a very unique assignment to your life that has
to be fulfilled. And I believe that it's not things
that the way he showed me, it's almost as dope.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Because you're a very smart man.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
You might see it and you'll question yourself out of it.
And it would be your kids that will tell you
what it is. And to not discount their voices when
they tell you, like, hey, Dad, I think you're supposed
to do. But it's literally the voice of God to
you because there's something that God has been preserving you
for that you must do on this earth. And what
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he showed me is that the confirmation of what that is.
You wouldn't you know it, but you reject it. But
your kids will be the one that will tell you
that very thing. And when they do, and maybe they
have walk in that path because there is you're going
to see so much favor beyond what you've ever known.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
And amen, And even when I was.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Praying, first of all, I love you, know how you've
been on the show and there's just such like this
journalist and maybe you I don't know if you are
okay beautiful because I'm like, oh my gosh, like how
she thinks, how she's which I used to help me
because would be rough and you would be on You're
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always so happy.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
But even when I saw concerning you, how God is
going to bring you in their rooms, whether it's like
the breakfast club and different things, but there are rooms
that God is going to bring you in. And there
is such a light about you. You're more grounding to
the Word than people know you to be. But the
reason that God is opening doors for you is because
of the world that He's put in you. And so
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it goes beyond what's on your resume, It goes beyond
what you have experience, and it goes beyond the people
that you know.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
But that to.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Not shy away from speaking his word, to not shy away.
There are moments I just kept seeing how the Holy
Spirit would even give you words about people like you
be around them and there's something you're sensing, but it's like,
should I say it?
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Should I not say it?
Speaker 5 (42:40):
And he's like no, But that's why I brought you
in the room, so that you can say what I
put in your heart. It's beyond me just adding something
else to your resume. It's because I need your There's
an influence that sometimes we would have because of the
word God wants to get out there. And I remember
even as I was God showed me this, not you,
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if anyone who knows the story, I'm not talking about
you in the way of Pharaoh, but it was literally
like Pharaoh in the times of Egypt where there was
gonna be a famine, And the person God brought the
word to was not Joseph, the person who was like
walking with the Lord, but it was Pharaoh because he
had influence over nations. He had influence to execute the
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plan of God. And then Joseph was able to interpret
the dream that helped him to do that. But when
he showed me this, it was in the sense where
God will bring you to places because you have influence
in the room, you have influence with people, but it's
because of what He wants you to execute with your voice,
so to not shy away from that.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
And then finally DJ envy with you.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
It was so beautiful because the first thing I saw
was God's love and it was almost this thing where
you not It's like you had this wall right and
it's like you used to protect yourself. You're used to
kind of like keeping people out so you can control
the narrative. But as you're doing that, you're also keeping
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yourself out of the reckless love of God and how
he wants to show up for you. And what I
kept seeing was, yes, you have questions, Yes there are things,
because I saw it almost like where you know, even
when it comes to faith, Like one of the things
is like, you know, but if this person who didn't
know you dies, like what happens to them?
Speaker 3 (44:26):
You know?
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Where you have all these questions that are intelligent and
smart questions, but to really step into the why behind
it requires surrender. And what I just kept showing, what
God kept showing me, was you come into a deeper
place of surrender in your life and it is going
to open. It literally felt like a damn bursting out
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what he wants to do, because there are many things
he wants to bring you into that you don't even
know about yourself yet, but that if you have this wall.
Then it's not just keeping people out, it's keeping his
voice out, is kipping his word out. But I just
saw like this love of God that is chasing after you.
And it was almost like someone just like, hey, let
me in. I'm right here. And regardless of the things
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you've experienced in life, their answers that it's almost like
their questions, he's not afraid to answer.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
But you have to.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
There's a will, there's a surrender that needs to take
place first. But yeah, David, yes, yes, yes, Heavenly Father,
we thank you for just everything you've done in this moment.
Lord God, we thank you even in talking about this book,
because it's really not about just getting a book out,
but it's really about getting people to be awakened to
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knowing that you speak, and you desire to speak to them,
whether they're awake or whether they're asleep. But even the
power of their dreams. Many people are ignoring their dreams
in this time, and there are world you're trying to
alert them about their warnings. You want to make them
aware of their ways, you want to prepare them, there
are ways you want to encourage them. And so Lord,
I just pray that you will continue to be glorified
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and in and through everything that we do. We love you, Lord,
We thank you in Jesus' name.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Amen, well, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Thankfine e k ok for yeah right, come.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.