Best Of Full Interview: Tezlyn Figaro Talks Kamala’s Missteps, Celebrity Roles In Campaigns, ‘Push The Line’ Movement + More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club morning,
everybody is d j n V just hilarious.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club along the
rosa feeling. And for Jess, we got a special guest
in the building, the gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
She's back, Miss Teslin figure Oh, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hello, Hello, Hello, are you feeling Charlotte? Good morning, good morning,
good morning, Lord.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
How are you feeling this?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Feeling good? I am, I'm really feeling good. It's good
to be back back with family. Choppered up, which y'all
drop some dimes, named some names.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Okay, yeah, here to.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Get we were dropping dimes on test dropping downs on
everybody from top to bottle. Let's start right off with
the president presidential election. Why did VP Harris lose?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Oh? Man, I should have rolled my white board.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
That many yeah, that many yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
And the reason why it's important, I literally have my
stuff in order because a lot of people MV said,
you know, she lost because of this reason, she lost
because of that. And it's really in the Midwest. The
tornado requires water, humidity, when you know, multiple things reason,
it's not one reason. And when I hear people saying,
you know, oh, if he just did better with the messaging.

(01:07):
Oh if they did better with the media. I've really
kind of put together a list of flow chart on
how basically a colossal fuck up from top to bottom.
So you're doing yeah, we're doing atosy, we're doing to
pull autops. So if we just really take it from
the top, as we all said, Joe Biden should have
never ran, we have to first, you know, start there.
Should have never ran. He said it was a one time,

(01:29):
it was gonna be a one term president. We talked
about it multiple times. He actually volunteered that life to say, hey,
I'm only going to run one term. I'm coming in
just to stop Trump immediately. Then they should have started
building a base immediately right out the gate. Trump was
still campaigning this entire time. We talked about it. We
talked about how it was constant rallies, constant organizing. You
and I talked about it on the Van Jones Show.

(01:50):
We're saying, you guys really have to continue the organizing
year round. And that's why I blame a lot of
the people at the top who have the ear of
the you know, of the candidates and campaign eltons, because
they've been told this multiple multiple times. So it should
have found a white man right then and there who
was going to be next in line to build a
white man, a white man, absolutely young white man, right
then and there. And it's not Governor Newsom. By the way,

(02:12):
a lot of people keep saying that govern Newson will
get swamped.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
So you didn't think Kamala was gonna win, you, no,
right at the game? No, no, no question. He's a black woman.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, absolutely, so that that's number three. So let's first
get that. So they should have establish a bitch saying
didn't do that? Governor knew somebody just want to put
that out there. A lot of people like him, great debater.
He would have got swamped. You have to remember he
literally passed to be O K through twelve to have
shared bathrooms with gender. So imagine what conservatives would have
did with that all over the nation, the homelessness and
all of that. So then, yes, number three, America was

(02:43):
not going to vote for a woman of color period.
And know, in the history of black women and white
women allyship a lleged allyship, I have never known a
white woman to give a job to a woman of
color before they got it. That includes even McDonald's on fries,
just not gonna have have you ever ever a white
woman ever said you know what, I think you're more qualified,
We'll go ahead and take it. They didn't give it

(03:04):
to Hillary Clinton, that we're not going to give it
to her. I know there was hope. I know you
talked about, you know, believing in us, but it was
never about us believing in us. It was about us
knowing them. It's not about being qualified. This was when
it came down to saying, they didn't give it to
Hillary Clinton, why would they give it to Harris? So
that was to me an era right out the gate.

(03:25):
But we had no choice because.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Biden, I think Kamalot as a black woman is the
only reader. Well, first of all, two things the last
two elections, the Democratic Party need to be thinking black women, right,
because if it wasn't for Jim Clydeburn telling Joe Biden, hey,
I'm not endorsing you unless you promise that you're gonna
put a black woman on the Supreme Court, I'm not
endorsing you. So that's what made him endorse Joe Biden.
He went South Carolina and changes the complexion of his campaign.

(03:48):
If it was for Kamala Harris in twenty twenty I
think a lot of us wouldn't have went out there
and voted for President Biden. I didn't vote for Presdent Biden.
I voted Vice presd Kamala Harss. I also think in
twenty twenty four, when you look at the fact that
Joe Biden's presidency was dead, like completely dead in the water,
and Kamala Harris came to the top of the ticket,
raised all of this money, ended up having the second
most votes of any Democratic nominee ever with seventy four

(04:11):
million votes.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
I think that only happens because she's a black one.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well, two things can be true at the same time.
There can be some positives they came with that, but
there also can be some negatives. Where we look at
the data, we don't have to guess. We looked at
where white women aligned, we looked at where the Latino
community aligned. We looked at the bottom line data this
show Latino men.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Was that was a surprise?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, why was it a surprise? No? No, Latinos have
always the fifty fifty. They've always when you look at
one you know, I organized for the Bernie Sanders campaign
in Michigan. I was only black woman on the ground
in twenty fifteen to helped lift that state. Latino community
has always been divided. When you look at Florida and
you look at the Cuban community, they've always went conservative.
When you look at the Bernie Sanders the left side

(04:50):
the California, they always go left. They have always strategued,
and I ain't mad about it. They've always strategically been
able to have leverage because they go fifty to fifty.
You remember when Joe Biden told black leaders when he
won right after you said yeah, right, and you said
I owe you black people. Remember when they had the
meeting and they leave the tapes in front of the
Al Sharpton and all of them and say, y'all need to
go follow Latino community be cause they're the ones that
have the leverage. So I'm not mad at it, but

(05:12):
we need to talk about it for what it is.
There might be a black and brown coalition in New York.
You know, I've talked about that all the time. But
when you're talking about the set that changed too, they're
moving over. When you talk about the South, when you
talk about the Midwest, and particularly when you talk about
the West. There is no black brown coalition, and it's
okay for people to vote their interests. Also, got news
for you, black men are conservative. Doing my Joe Biden

(05:34):
whisper black people are conservative. I don't know why people
want to keep, you know, making that not an issue.
So when you're talking about black men and you're talking
about other black people, with the majority of the country
in the South, majority of moderate I know progressives want
to sell a different story. But black people, for the
most part of martyrn and a lot of them lean conservative.
We're going to get into that when we get into
the messaging, but let's just kind of go back a
little bit. I agreed that there was some positives to it,

(05:55):
but when it came down to it, when we looked
at race, white women, to me, just like they did
in the mid term, just like they did when they
were with Obama. Then they went with Trump, and then
they went back to Democrats in the mid terms, and
then they flipped back. When you're talking about white supremacy
and talking about positioning like what they did with the
women suffrage movement, I just didn't see them doing it
for a black woman over them. They didn't do it

(06:16):
with Hillary Clinton. The only person that ever beat Donald
Trump is Joe Biden, and I agree.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
With but white women voting for Clinton fifty five percent
voting for Biden. So the white women been showing out
white women, white women have showed up three elections well.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
But but they were also comfortable with Joe Biden. Let's
remember Joe Biden is one of them. Let's go back
to what.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Fifty five percent of white women voted for Trump over Biden.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Right to align with white supremacy to a lot, because
this is about white supremacy. This is about would they
rather have their household ahead of you as as a
black man husbands. That's exactly I's wrong, and people need
to stop these pundents. Get them another They went against
their own interest. No, their interest is their household. Your
interest is your interest. My interest is my interest. When
I keep hearing people say that they went against their

(06:59):
own interests, no, they've actually aligned with their interest, which
is white man, white woman, black man, black woman. That's
the order, That's how it is. Black people on the side,
check bottom line. We need to just accept that. I
know we want to say BlackGirl, imagine over we want
to say oh because black this and that black women
can't save this country. We need to stop selling that dream.
Let's get in position and understand what we can do,
which is why I was talking about the local and

(07:20):
state level, and stop trying to sell this timeshare scam
because to me, it was a timeshair scam. I agree
with you that there was really no other choice because
Joe Biden was trash. We get that he was trash.
So once they said, okay, let's rally around Harris. Now
she's a Democratic nominee. Okay, so cool. We're with that.
Black women raised thirty million dollars after Gate. Black men
raised thirty million ours Gate. So now we're having to
deal with who dropped this bag? Who dropped this billion

(07:42):
dollar bag? And that's the issue when we get into
how they spent the money. I didn't think she had
a chance in hell. But once you decided to move forward, okay,
so what do we do with the money? Black voters?
They lost Black voters across the board. That on two
across the board makes a difference when you're talking about Michigan,
makes a difference in North Carolin. So that's where we're
getting to your concern where you talk about messaging where

(08:04):
the messaging was all wrong.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I want to ask you about the money.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Is it normal for candidates to give so much money
to quote unquote entertainment When you see in that they
paid this person to speak and this person to have
that back.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Is that normal when it comes to politics?

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Who did they pay to speak? Though?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Well, allegedly we'll say people speA.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
You had to pay the speed, but the money that
it took to get the set up, the advanced team,
the entertainment. So let's go back a little bit. One
hundred days was impossible even for a white man. In
my opinion, I just want to go back to one
hundred days. Running a campaign was damn near impossible for
anybody in particularly a woman of color. So now we're
in this one hundred day thing. In order to get
people to come out, we do use entertainers, and I

(08:44):
push back on people say don't use entertainers. It's important
Killer Mike talks about it all the time. We need
entertainers to mobilize. When you're trying to get that stand field,
the twenty thirty thousand people, you have three days to
do it. We actually need our entertainers. The problem though
MV is the entertainers not necessarily being aligned with organizers
on how to use their voice throughout the year. I
would love to see pliers like work when an organizer

(09:05):
throughout the year, not just election season, so that we
can continue to have this conversation. So I don't want
to shit on entertainers. We need them. But when you
have one hundred days and you're spending more on entertainment
setups and not on the ground, and you have organizations
like until Freedom to make the matter they got and
again we can look at the numbers. The numbers are
available online, guys, So this ain't making it up. When
you're giving organizations like that one hundred and fifty thousand

(09:27):
dollars and telling them we'll make it, do what to do,
that's a problem. No war is won by just the
air force. I'm an Air Force veteran. You need the
air force. Yes, you need the big entertainers, you need
the media, you need the podcast that's the air. But
you also need the ground, you need marines, and you
need the army. And they bottom line, took black voters
for granted, like we've been talking about for years. They figure, well,

(09:47):
you know she's black, so that'll be fine. They literally
shit it on organizations. One hundred year organizations got seventy
five thousand dollars, one hundred thousand dollars. One hundred black men.
I believe they got like seventy five thousand, hundred thousand dollars.
So what is that saying on how you're trying to organiz,
you know, with black men. So that's an issue when
we talk about this billion dollar bag, and not just
because of now envy, but also the infrastructure that we're

(10:08):
trying to build. So midterms in March, and I'm independent,
so I'm just giving you know what it looks like
to build this house. You need this money flowing year round.
They're trying to build now. So your opponent is over
building a house with adding on, swimming pools, adding on garages,
adding on all this, and then they come give the
money two three weeks before the election is over. Before
the election, black organizations did not get money until three

(10:31):
weeks before. Literally they told the churches they yeah, nothing
they can do with it, and then saying we're here,
go tw hundred thousand dollars, make a doe to do.
And what I found this time is the gatekeepers got
gate kept because the streets was never getting the money.
So when they were calling me dropping dives, hotels and
we only got these only at that last time we
got a lot of money, I said, I'm here to
tell the streets and never got any of it. But
now as the gatekeepers got gate kept for the first time,

(10:53):
Derrick Johnson literally calling out the campaign in an article saying,
you guys are not spending money with black media. You're
not spent money on the ground. We are literally starving.
Most of these organizations had to use this money on
their own and that makes a difference when you're talking
about getting out the vote.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Trump didn't use his money as much for entertainers.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Didn't.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
No, he didn't at all. Well, he doesn't get a
lot of earned media get a lot of earned Also,
Trump has been organizing and he's never stopped for ten years,
non stop. When you have a rally every month, when
you're engaging people every month, when he's using social media,
when he's using truth, he's okay, Twitter, you don't want
to work with me, cool, I I'll just go start
my own. He has a non stop organizing machine that

(11:33):
democrats just don't do. They don't develop those relationships. They
come in, Okay, we got six months, let's make it.
Do what to do. So this is the result. And
so people can say, well, that's just ten percent, that's
just one percent. But when you add up those numbers
across the board, it makes a difference. And I also
want to say this, Black Conservatives, I want us to
have more leverage. I also want us to have more
positioning within the Republican Party. If you're going to move

(11:54):
over to the Publican side, where's our leadership?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
You know when it comes to that she run again?
Can Kamala Harris run again?

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Let's get through our points.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
Wait before you're going to move on to the next thing,
I have a question because it's about what you're talking about.
So you saw Candis Owens going back and forth Miss
Tina knows about Beyonce and Beyonce being involved in in
the rally in Houston to the point that Candas was making.

Speaker 7 (12:16):
It's kind of what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
Do you think that how do you utilize a major
celebrity like a Beyonce because she's not going to be
on the ground, And what should Kamala Harris's campaign have
done better utilizing a big celebrity of that nature because
she's getting dragged for it because they're saying it looks unauthentic,
and Canda's owns is saying it looks unauthentic and this
is why you didn't win.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
But Beyonce is not going to be outside like you
get what I'm.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Saying, Like they filled the stadium in Houston to Beyonce.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, you have to feel the stadium. And I'm an
organizer first before I'm a pundits. So when we use
people like that to tell who never knocked on the doors,
I kind of discredit what they're saying. She has to
find talking points to talk about her opponent Perio point blank.
When it comes to Canis owns, I use Killing Mike
as an example. You know our brother Killer Mike. He's
an organizer first, He's always been an organizer before he
was a rapper before Daniels say, he's an organizer. So

(13:06):
when you go to Atlanta, Georgia, and you don't call
Killer Mike to take you to the same spots that
they took, the same Chick fil A that they took
Trump to, the same the West side of Atlanta had
zero signs on the ground when you don't utilize a
killer Mike. They got barbershops all throughout Atlanta, and he's
literally made himself available.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
You could have been sitting in Bank HC Food right
by the way. And to Ted's point, Killer Mike did
make himself available.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
He made himself fact. This is a fact. And you
shit on that and you think that's not important. When
an organizer who literally has him and Tip has literally
put mayors in office, that's telling me how you feel
about your black outreach. Oh, they'll just do it because
she's black. Well, I got news for you. The black
vote went the opposite direction. It went the opposite direction
because people are getting tired of being taken advantage of.

(13:53):
They're being tired of not having this conversation year around Charlemagne.
And so when you guys did I'm just gonna go
ahead and say it. When you did the thing in Michigan, Yeah,
Zeke new Ara of Detroit sitting right there in the things,
I asked them, hey, campaign ever reached out to you
mean laughing and he said no, he said none to me.
You can't organize in Detroit and not think you need

(14:14):
to talk to a Zeke or a new Ara of Detroit.
That man not only is organize in Detroit, all over
the country. So when you think that people are just
going to do it just because thirty three percent of
Detroit is living below the poverty line, So what is
that telling you. You had Rashida Talib who organized the
arib American community that literally voted for Trump. Literally dearborn

(14:34):
voted for Trump. And then you had the Black vote
that was depressed, meaning just not even interested, saying fuck it,
you know the government, it's hurting my pocket.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
Voted for Trump.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Dear born. Oh well, you know they had the one
hundred thousand. They had one hundred thousand people go to
the point, this ain't being talked to about enough. One
hundred thousand people went to the polls to say we
are uncommitted. Remember she just sleep literally did a video
and said, Joe Biden, we ain't fucking with you until
there's a ceasefire. We ain't fucking with you. That was
doing the primary. Your number one opponent was a Democrat

(15:06):
elected official in Michigan that was literally basically telling voters
sort to sit out and had them go to the
polls to vote I am uncommitted. So that same Dearborn,
which she represents. She represents Detroit as well. Dearborn voted
for Trump. You look at that, You look at the
two three percent of of the black votes. They couldn't

(15:27):
get out of Detroit. So now you're talking about how
you can win Michigan. Those are the things you know
that people are not looking at. And Michigan had a
lot of leverage, but he won all swing states, you know,
so it wasn't just Michigan. But that's a real problem.
You got black people starving in Detroit. You got Dearborn
asking for a ceasefire. You got the labor union and
this is how we won Michigan with Bernie Sanders. You
got the labor union. They won't strike all last year

(15:49):
the year before that, so those people were pissed. You
have the college students who were also pushing you know,
anti war and removed college debt was an issue. So
those four or five constituents in Michigan made the difference
on why you lost. So it was a number of things,
you know. It's not just one thing over the other.
It's a number of things.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I know.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
The podcast was important. It is important to have podcasts.
It is important to be able to reach thirty million
people at one time. But if you're doing that and
you're telling organizations like Until Freedom are organization similar that
here go one hundred thousand and you need to go
to seven states and make it work. When you have
the Church of God in Christ. Think they got one thousand,
two hundred thousand and said, hey, go go make a
do what to do? It was impossible?

Speaker 4 (16:26):
You know what I'd like to see. I agree, you know,
I think you got to hit them both right. You
got to have a ground game, man, you got to
have a mean digital game. I would like to see
some of the grassroots activists on the ground. I would
like to see them start adapting the social media as well,
because I feel like those organizations needed.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, for sure, the partnership. It's not just you know
one thing. I think a report today said one in
every three people get their news from social media. I
think it's actually higher than that. So we're not partnering
in social media and having that ground game to be
you know, to double it up. It's dead in the water,
but you still have to have people knocking on those doors.

(17:02):
And bottom line, they should have just bought boats. At
this point when you got one hundred days. Some of
these nonprofits that are out here, somebody in Detroit, you
could have funded them. You could have the same way
Trump had Kwame Kapatrick, you know, the same way they
had Harry O. People, Oh what Harry Old doing? That
make a difference. So people's looking for partons in clemencies
and all that Democrats have pardoned far more than Republicans have.

(17:22):
I asked Governor Westmore, why are you not talking about
I think it was what close to two hundred thousand
people that he partnered for marijuana. Why are y'all not
talking about that? Why is that not something y'all talking about?
So when Trump brings a trick trick from Detroit and
people don't shave room, Who's trick trick? Oh? Nowhere is Detroit?
No damn well, who trick trick is? So when people
see that, they're like, well, shit, I don't know what
to believe that one two percent of falling off makes

(17:44):
a difference. Trump capitalized on the lost man, something I've
been talking about for fifteen years straight. The hood Whish
were the lost man. Men who felt like they were
not being heard, People who felt like they were not
being understood. Again, I'm talking to civic about black people.
I'm not talking about this work and because that translates
to white working class, I'm talking about black people who
felt like they were not being heard, were not being understood,

(18:06):
and Trump capitalized on that. People asked, oh, why did
he use Ambrose? Well, guess what she's from where?

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Right?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
That's a swing state, so you don't have to like
his shave room. But that was very strategic. It made
sense to have ice word vessel, you know, in Detroit,
even though in the shave room, who is he? I
don't know? He is Detroit. That one of two percent
made a difference. Why didn't you reach out the Kaiomei
Campatrick because he a fela? Is that why you don't
think it was important to at least, if nothing else,
minimize your enemy. There's two things you do in the campaign.

(18:34):
Minimize your enemy, maximize your friends. You didn't even reach
out to that man for a conversation. Whether you like
what he did in Detroit or not, the man still
was elected, His mama was elected. He comes from a
very long lineage you know of folks in Detroit, and
I think that's even it's worth having the conversation. So
Trump was able to appear as if he was one
of them, which he was not. By the way, He's
a white man who obviously if black man could have

(18:56):
never gotten away with he got with the fellas, But
he was able to appear as if he was. He
was able to appear that connection. Why didn't they talk
about what Governor Newsom did in California removing the gang enhancement.
Removing the gang has you got homies who are literally
getting on the yard for the very first time. If
you do the crime, do the time, no problem with that.
But in California, most people are affiliated with the gang
just by based on where you live. So Governor Newsom

(19:17):
has passed great legislation that has allowed people to come home,
that has allowed people to actually get on the yard
for the very first time. I got ten thousand homies
right now in LA that were organized for the next
governor just based off that one thing. They didn't talk
about those things v because they sit in this elitist positioning,
you know, of let's just not talk about that, you know,
let's just let's go high and the go low. And

(19:39):
Trump was able to capitalize on that. That made a differen
when you're talking about a ten percent Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Think I think it's hard for them to capitalize on
something like the new someome thing because it is something
that's regulated to California. Like, the first step back was
a federal a federal law that people act that. He
did a phenomenal job of showing, look, I bought this
person home, and I bought that person home, and like
there was other people on social media that would talk about, ma'am,
my people just came home because of.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
The first step back.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
I actually think the first step back people don't really
credit that enough. They want to talk about stimulus checks
and PPP loans.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
But when you can.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Actually see one of your homies come home from prison,
that's a big deal.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, and we saw what happen in real time. But
I just wanted to push you back living on how
you capitalize against that, how you can capitalize when you
look at what Governor Moore was able to do the
federal when they took the federal for the marijuana.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Yeah, simple possession marijuana.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
You show the connection. So yes, that was federal right,
but Governor Moore was able to actually utilize that without
that federal partnership it wouldn't have happened. So it does
trickle down, but the Democrats never connect the dots to
show you this is how it actually works. Federal was
able to help the state. State was able to have
the local and so on and so forth. So there's
ways to do it. They just don't do it, Charlemagne,

(20:49):
because they feel as if, you know, let's focus on
these imaginary voters. Let's spend all this money on white women.
Let's spend all this money on Yeah. So Trump was
able to capitalize on that. Just another Remember this is
about margins in the swing state. So when you got
one or two percent that's saying I'm sitting on the couch,
or one or two percent of saying I'm going in
a different direction, it makes a difference.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Oh yeah, especially when you look at the election.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
I mean, I think what Trump had seventy six point
one million votes, Harris had seventy four and it's just
all those margins she lost by the margins in a
lot of those swingstat So.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
What you think about Trump's cabinet, and I guess his
choices for his cabinet right now, because I mean, these
are the people that are be gonna have to be.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, I don't think nothing. I think Republicans ran Democrats
ran is gonna be a dictator. Guess what they want?
A dictator. We've been saying this forever. We've been talking
about this day of bipartisanship, and let's just get it
through Congress, we said, Charlotmane. You know I said it
a many times, like with the George Floyda Act reducing
college debt, do an executive order. Everybody said, you can't

(21:48):
do a executi order. You gotta go through Congress. Republicans
are gonna change it back. If you get in, they're
gonna change it back. Guess what Republicans don't give them
about changing the back? They changed back, rovers what about
changing back a whole bunch of shit Obamacare and everything else.
Democrats refuse use to work as a dictator. They want
a dictator. Everybody's saying, oh man, he's gonna be a dictator, right,
that's why they want. Oh yes, he's gonna take migrants out. Yes,

(22:09):
that's what they wanted. People need to stop saying that
online is driving me crazy. Oh latinos, oh man, oh man,
y'all about to see they want the immigrants people who
are legal, who will come over to the country legal.
They are literally telling you, yes, we do. We don't
support illegal immigration. So people they're thinking, they saying something
on social media, y'all gonna see. No, they want a dictator.
The Democrats ran on democracy, they ran on dictators. Shall

(22:31):
be a dictator day one. That's exactly what they want.
A dictator. Somebody's gonna push the line. Somebody an't gonna
get damn back what Congress is talking about. Somebody just
say I don't care what the rules are. I'm gonna
do what I want to do. They want a gangster period.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
I wouldn't say dictator, but they want somebody that don't
give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
And it's going to He said he was gonna be
a dictator on day He said that.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
On day one.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
But I think what people mean when they say they
just want somebody that's gonna say, you know what, as
long as things are getting done for the people, I
don't care how it gets done. Like John Stewart did
a great, agree great monologue last night, and he was
just like Democrats always follow the norms and Republicans don't
follow the norms. They gonna find those loopholes to break.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Which is kind of like dictatorship. Though he said he
gonna do what he want to do. That's what, damn
what politically, you ain't gonna play press. So I mean
that's saying I'm gonna do this, and if you don't
do it, it's gonna be hell to pay. If you
don't do it, you know, I'm gonna make sure you
don't win. If you don't do it, I'm gonna call
you out. We talked about this with Joe Manchin. They
let they set up now, Joe Managine, see this to

(23:28):
a Republican. We've been talking about this. This has been
going on for the last fifteen years. This loss was
not just what happened in the last one hundred days.
This has been at least from my experience two thousand
and seven. I can name year over year over year
on what's what happened, on how we got it. And
then another thing I want to bring up on this
messaging abortion. Democrats ran on reproductive rights and democracy fail

(23:51):
right out the gate. You had states like Arizona and
the Bottle that had abortion on the ballot. So Democrats'
mindset is, let's put abortion on the ballot and that's
gonna bring you know, so people know get out to vote.
Gotv that's how do you get out the vote? Oh,
they're going to go to the polls now that abortion
is on the ballot. Well, which you did, meet ballhead.
You actually allowed Republican women who were pro choice to

(24:13):
actually vote for abortion and still vote for Trump. There's
no rule that says if you support pro choice that
you won't vote for Trump. So Republican women in Nevada
and Arizona literally have the opportunity to bring abortion back
and still vote for Trump. So Democrats shot themselves even
in the foot if you were expecting women to go
vote for reproductive rights because you gave them an out,

(24:35):
and then that was a mistake out the gate. Look
at Michigan, Michigan. You can get an abortion in Michigan,
So that don't land anywhere. I know people want this idea,
especially black voters. Could we like to take care of everybody?
And oh what about them in Texas? But the average
person is voting their personal interest, that's it. And if
I can get an abortion in Michigan, what matters to
me if you get it in Arizona or Nevada or
whatever it was. So when you're running on reproductive rights,

(24:58):
which I think was a mistake, and just the marracy
people didn't give a damn about democracy well talking about
it when I was sitting there in twenty eighteen, those
first question you asked me out the gate, what do
people think about to say, they don't give it down
his white fo's white foe, don't give it about no insurrection.
They'll do it again. This is what's been happening in
this country four hundred years. So the messaging was wrong
at the gate. We talked about that, not running on
the economy, not running But I still think though even

(25:20):
if she should have ran on all of those things,
they still gonna vote for. They still would have rather
voted for Joe Biden. Have dead weekend at Bernie's. You know,
they didn't even win Scranton. They didn't win Scranton. Joe
would at least won Scranton. Harris lost Scringt.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
I think I think Joe would have got like sixty
five million.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
Book said, Okay, so, if if what you're saying is true,
what was all because I felt how you how you
feel now? It is how I felt in the beginning,
and then when I saw the excitement and the money
moving and all of.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
That, got a chance.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
Yeah, what was all of that then?

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I didn't think it was gonna win.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
But doing anything, we're not giving you no more money.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yo'll have no choice, That's right.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, So let's be clear they did not have a
choice because George, Yeah, they said they didn't have no choice.
So two things to be true. At the same time,
they had to put Harris in no doubt about that.
I'm not disagreeing with that, but I still don't think
they would have voted us. They just wouldn't. They're just
not going to give something that they didn't get. First.
Did she do the best that she could? Yes? Did
she do everything they told her to do? Yes? Did
she have one hundred days to do it? Yes? And

(26:20):
this is not about shiitting on her. This is about
setting up a woman to fail in a hundred days
to do the damn near impossible. I think Joe Biden
should have took that l He's the one that said,
you know, he was gonna run. He's the one that
set up there the entire time. They didn't build the bitch.
Let him take the L. Why now are you putting
it on Yeah, I thought it was like the friendly.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah, can again? Would you advise her to run again?

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Because again we gotta stop with that. I don't know
what this subsession we got with federal I'm gonna keep
push that. Let them have it. Let's talk about especially
Republicans now saying give it to the state if you
really want to make real change in your community. I
know it's not as sexy. I know it's not as exciting,
but it really is at the state level. It really
is at the local level. If you believe in you
want to fund the public schools, you can do at

(27:16):
a local level. You say, you know what I want,
charter schools. I want to be able to educate our
own You can do that at the local level. Why
are we so infatuated with this White House. I don't
get it. Why not be an Atlanta council with sixteen
other people in Orlando with six other people to be
able to say, I'm gonna write a check to the
Black Business Investment Fund, you know, to be able to say, hey,
here's some money to go start a business. You can
pass reparations at the local level. So I don't understand

(27:39):
this obsession that we have with this federal thing. And
I'm gonna be honest with you, Lauren, Black women, a
lot of times we get caught up and it's wanting
to be validated so damn bad. So when the excitement
was there, when everybody's like, oh man, we can do this,
we can do this. Black girl, manage we do this,
we can do this, do this validation of needing to
be affirmed, need to say you are qualified enough, you
are good enough. A lot of that played into it.

(28:01):
A lot of that played into it. But let's not
forget three thousand black women did a petition and said,
Joe Biden, keep your ass in. They ignored that and
went with the money. To Charlet Magne's point, they didn't
have a choice.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
I agree with you, especially about the state thing. You know,
there's something else.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Trump said that man landed, and I was I'm still
trying to figure out how did he land is because
it's so hard to get people to focus on this.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
The abortion thing.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Right, He told them, I wanted to be in the
hands of the state. So whenever you would have conversations
with people about, you know, abortions on the ballot, they'd
be like, no, Trump just wants it to be in
the hands of the state. I've never seen a politician
convinced people on a national level it's going to be
local and that's fine, and they buy into it.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Well, Trump can get anybody to buy in anything he say.
I mean, he's a total man. Press have never been
equipped to run against Trump. Let's just name it, you know,
let's just say they've never been equipped to run against them.
He's too petty, he goes too low, he don't give
a damn what y'all talking about. Entertainer first, and so
they've never been equipped to go against this man. Never.
But to your point, Charlemagne is for those that understand

(29:02):
the states rights. And when you go back to Reagan,
the reason why black people are again said, is because
what it does is it disenfranchisse, disenfranchisise, it disenfranchise us.
Even more so if you're saying, Okay, in Oklahoma, you
can't get access to health care, but you can get
access to healthcare in California. Very liberal. These are folks
that can't just pick up, you know, and go to

(29:24):
California to get what they need, don't have the money.
So it affects poor people in a very bad way.
The states rights. But conservatives they like states, give it
to the states their mindset. If you don't like it,
move somewhere else. But none of us had, not enough
of us have the resources to just move, you know,
to somewhere else, to just move where things you know
may be favorable to you. So as black voters were
always trying to carry the lease of these and everybody

(29:46):
else and think about everybody else. But the reality is, Charlemagne,
people are only looking at what's in front of their doorstep.
And if I can do X y Z in Michigan,
if I can have a successful business with zero regulations
in Atlanta when COVID it happened, when Governor Camp, you
know a lot of we don't like Governor Camp, but Atlanta,
Atlanta will still thriving. Black business was still thriving. Georgia

(30:07):
was still thriving. So when people look outside their door,
when remember when the Santas reduced the gas, when they
was talking about you can't do nothing about the gas
when gas was so high, he said, oh no, I
can do something about it. This is why I talking
about state. So when people remember that, even though there's
more liberal, more Democrat voters in Florida, people remember what
affected their pocket and that Republican governor made a difference.
Kemp and Georgia made a difference was passing out Kemp cards.

(30:29):
He did the same thing Trump did when he signed
his name. He gave them Kemp cards. People remember that.
So you can have a state with a republic Democrat
governor like North Carolina, but they still went with Trump
because they're looking at how does it trickle down. You
can have a state that flipped and went blue, but
have a governor camp who's a Republican. People like their governors.

(30:51):
People don't have to like Texas. You don't have to
like Texas in New York, but your money gonna go
far in Texas. As any felon in Texas they working
in oil fields eighteen dollars now twenty five dollars an hour,
thirty dollars an hour. That makes a difference. So even
if they don't like Republicans, even they don't like Trump,
when you're looking at how that affects your money daily,
it makes a difference. And that's where they lost as
far as really trying to understand, you know, the economic conversation,

(31:13):
especially with black people.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
What else we got on the list, because I know
you got some money, now.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I got a lot on the list. I kind of
want to just deal with Michigan quickly because I do
have some concern with that. I mentioned Rashida Tsali, and
I'm not mad about you know how she was able
to organize her voters, but I do have some concern
for Detroit. I do feel as if Detroit does not
have the voice that they should have. That Rashida's leid

(31:40):
was able and she should I think she she went
hard in the paint for she's a Palestinian woman. I
expect her to. I have no issue with that, but
I do feel like Detroit kind of got crashed out
a little bit that there's not representation. Detroit is one
of the blackest cities in the country, and so when
you had a few enough to say, you know what,
but I just don't want to be a part of

(32:01):
the process anymore. And that entire conversation was on Gaza,
and I know there's a talking point of progressive is
going to come in and tell you that the polls
say that black people are concerned about Godza. Yes we are,
we do have We are very compassionate. But if you
ask the average black person, Black American on what they're
most concerned about, they're talking about again their own front door.
They're more concerned about what's happening here over what's happening

(32:24):
in geopolitics right. So to be able to be to
be a single issue vote, I don't have no problem
with Rashida to lead, none at all. But when you
had three black women who ran Againstrashida's leave in twenty
twenty two, all three of them combined still didn't have
even half of rashida to leave passed. So she has
the votes, she has the power, but I feel Detroit
is not getting there, just doing at least being a

(32:44):
part of the conversation. And I hope that changes.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
What she got on that list.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
I think that said list, You'll got something else with
that to go over.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
You know, I wanted to ask you about Hakim Jeffreys.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Hakim Jeffrey said this week that he sees he says
Democrats are set up for a major comeback.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
You think that's possible, but what's the comeback? Me let
me know you come back. What's the comebacks?

Speaker 6 (33:05):
I've never seen that that mixtape, but they still do
it anyway, and then they don't could I.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Don't think so, I don't think, first of all, and
I forgot. I want to name a couple of names
because a lot of people ain't name the names. I
do encourage people to go look at that list. There
are two names that kept popping up over and over.
Quentin No dispect. I've never met him, you know, but
he was in charge of the bag. And also Cedric Richmond.
Now you remember when Sedria Richmond came on the Breakast
Club and said hold him acountable. Remember that a couple
of years.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
I've been I don't even listen to when Cedric made
that statement on Breakfast Club and said, hold him accountable
if anything doesn't go to the way it's supposed to
go into buy administgration.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
And then he just disappeared. He left his position. We
didn't even know he left his position. I don't I
ain't pay static no attention.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Well he literally told grass Foot Organization, y'all just want
the money. Just say that. Yeah, we're saying that where's it?
And I'm saying it's completely I didn't ask for no check,
don't want no check, not interested in no check. I'm
just telling you what the people said.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
Ain't get none of the million.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
I don't want that million.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
But they told black people that money don't like like
you need money for things like why is that such
a like a falsehood or something like, well, no, they.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Know they got it and just didn't come. Black folks
didn't go Yeah, sharp didgets We got five hundred thousand. Yeah,
roller got his ship too. Roller, what's having a roller?
Can let me hold something?

Speaker 2 (34:19):
But money went out and they're still in the negative.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
And student when they're strange. They do it every year.
They've been doing this like this. They do it every year.
And it's again, it's not just on the entertainers, these
white liberal consultants who run this party. Because they do.
And then they tell the black folks in charge, the
gatekeepers of the gatekeepers to tell them, okay, give them
one hundred thousand, give them one hundred and fifty given
to it. They kept lying saying all the money coming
to money coming. They literally didn't give it to them

(34:44):
three weeks until three weeks out. So now now you
wonder why you lost the black vote.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
They're giving them this money for so like for instance,
rolling on in a reverend, Now what do they use
that money for it? The only reason I said that
because you just said that rolling with advertising advertising.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
Yes, I don't know what. I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Well revenue they they gave we really name the names
they gave International Action Network. They gave a donation to.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Him, two donations of a quarter million dollars.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yes, and so, uh, that organization is an organization, you know,
the worst year round, I guess, you know, allegedly for
and I'm not saying that, you know, to be funny,
but you know, for outreach. So, but again, it can't
just be on just reven ol. You know, it's not
just on you know. No, No, I'm glad, No, I'm
saying I'm gonna be clear. You can't just continue to
keep spending money just on reven ou you know these organizations.

(35:32):
Why are you not again, why are you not connecting
with these grassroot organizations who are literally struggling, literally struggling
to give them the money so that they can organize
year round, you know, in order to keep people engaged
in bottom line by votes. That's what they did with
the Latino community. They put in the mid terms. They
put thirty different community centers in Florida wasn't just about
vote and they was coming in trying to figure out

(35:53):
what they could get health care, trying to figure out
what resources they could get, trying to figure it. You
literally took care of the community. That's where that money
is supposed to go and be. It's not just for advertising.
Advertised is important, but it's more than that. You literally
are supposed to buy votes, guys, that's how it works
by votes. That sound crazy, Yeah, well's buying votes. When
I say that, I mean if you got a nonprofit
in you in the hood, and I give you three

(36:13):
hundred thousand, and I'm telling you, use that three hundred
thousand throughout the year to do job training, Use that
three hundred thousand throughout the year to do resume building,
Use that three hundred thousand to put people in a
better position. Now people can feel it and say okay,
and then that organization has a responsibility to say this
came from the Harris campaign, this came from X y Z.
This is how we got what we got. And then
now people can say okay, I feel it. Like with

(36:35):
the first step back, they feel it, they can see it,
they can touch it, and republics that have just did
a better job with that. It's not that Democrats don't
have the receipts, they just don't talk about the receipts.
Their messaging has always been poor and raggedy as hell,
which is why I left in twenty ten. So it's
not that they don't have the receipts, they just don't
talk about They don't feel they have to. They feel
they know it all, and turns out they didn't know
shit at all. They knew it all and knew absolutely nothing.

(36:57):
They didn't listen to any advice that people gave them.
They said they knew what was best. They said, we
got this, and turns it out you didn't have it.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
I'm gonna be honest, I don't know how much well
I take that back.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I do know there was a lot of people out
there that was giving genuine good advice. But what I
realized is the people who was out there giving genuine
good advice was the people who were really doing it
out of the goodness of their heart. A lot of
other people I heard talking, they was really upset they
wasn't getting no money, right, and so a lot of
the stuff that they were saying was literally just based off, Well,
when y'all gonna give me some mone when y'all give
me some money.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Everybody that I heard actually giving.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Good advice was not getting paid by the campaign, right,
and those are the ones who aren't getting listened to.

Speaker 7 (37:32):
Why Why can't though, why are you not giving me
some money?

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Be a call signif but real, like, if you got
enough people saying we need, we need, we need, it's like, okay,
we need to figure out why do I'm saying we need?
Like that's common sense to me as a politician.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Well, you should be paying for it. The goodness of
the hard shit is over with. I mean, like, I've
done get this so hard for a long time and
it's basically gonna make you a full time uber dripper
at the end of the day. People got to get paid.
But yes, people have their own interests on why they
were trying to get X, Y Z, and they pissed
because they didn't get the money. A lot of these
people that you're that you're talking about, they got paid
last time. They weren't saying shit about the streets. But

(38:04):
now that they got get kept, now was oh man,
what's going on? You know, I've never had so many
calls and people saying, oh man, we didn't get this
and get that, saying streets bending't it. You know, I'm
talking about those grassroot organizations. They never were getting the money. So, yes,
people have their own special interests on why they're trying
to get it. But it's a billion dollars. Pass it out.
If we're gonna run this scam, this time's your scam,
then let them then, yeah, give give it out. There's

(38:26):
nothing wrong with that as well. So whether they was
it was the goodness of the herd or good advice
because they had an interest, they weren't listening to anybody.
Charlotte Mane. The they really do believe that they have
all of the answers, like literally all of that.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
It was so wrong about everything, Like when they had
that whole oh black men aren't going to show up
and vote for the vice president, and you know President
Obama was out there waving his finger at us. It's like, no,
y'all should be focusing on these white women, right right,
Like those are the ones that haven't shown up the
last couple of elections.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
The Latino men.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
I didn't hear them putting the real emphasis on that either.
But the Latino people didn't show up for them. So
it's just like I I just saw them make mistake
after mistake. And another thing I would say is you
had a presidential campaign that had trouble connected with the
working class, right because they had a bunch of consultants
who got backgrounds with these giant companies. Do you think
that they should just bring people on these campaigns that
are literally from the grassroots And to me, those were

(39:16):
the best ideas coming.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
From Yeah, okay, that's exactly what the best idea is
coming to another point. I'm glad you' about that us.
Charlotte Mane. Also a lot of friends groups, you know,
people that were giving them hell online that they ignore that.
They say, oh, that's just you know, Oh that's just
them talking. Oh that's just them talking. That's right, again,
minimizing your enemy. So there were groups online that are

(39:37):
literally talking to fifty thousand, one hundred thousand people every week.
You don't have to think that's important. But when you
got groups online saying reparations are not sit on the couch,
don't do this, don't do that, and you're ignoring that
group as a as a real constituency, and you're saying, oh,
don't worry about it. They just online well over time,
because again a lot of these people and they rock

(39:59):
with me talking about this year round. See why you're
just talking about this last one hundred days. They're talking
to one hundred, one hundred and fifty thousand people every week,
every week, every week, every week, and nobody pick up
the phone to say, hey, can I have a meeting
with you? Can I at least see what you're talking about?
Can we at least have some kind of common ground?
When Democrats in California threw black folks under the bus,
you know, wanted reparations, nobody thought it was worth even

(40:21):
having a conversation with the folks online that are giving
you hell. When you look at people, I'm just gonna say,
the hamy Terita, she giving them hell online every day.
Nobody think you to call and say, hey, y'all did
a whole rally on reparations in DC. Let's have a conversation.
What can we do to at least hear what you say?
So when you do that, that just continues the molilate
them to keep saying over and over and over, they

(40:43):
ain't fucking with us, And that makes a difference when
you talk about one and two percent in these minds.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
I agree with you wholeheartedly, and I think it's about
when you do it.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
To your point earlier, everybody who's thinking about running in
twenty twenty eight, they should start campaigning now. Don't wait
until the year of the election to start reaching out
to these different people could do it looks fake, it
looks it looks like it's not authentic, looks like you
don't really care. Start making those connections now.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
But let me ask a question.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Do you think it should be that like Charlomage said,
or do you think we should take a page out
of Canada's book and out of Francis book where it's
like there's a cap, it's a specific time limit, you
know what I mean, because people get fatigued and after
a while people like f all this issue. I mean,
do you feel like we should go more into that
because now it's almost like big bake, take a little.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Bait, you know.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
I mean as far as campaign campaign and concerned, oh
should be shorter campaign.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Short campaign Canada have a specific time limit, whether it's
three months or a certain amount of money that has to.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, it has changed. It used to be six months,
one year, two years. Congress has to run every two years.
The minute they getting off is their campaign and then
trying to raise money. So no, we are in a
year around. Donald Trump has changed this and will forever
be changed. This is a year around effort, year round resources,
year around. That's why I do my training and push
the line, nonpartisan training, year around, getting people in position.

(41:54):
That's a project. Twenty twenty five is all about. People
can think it's fake or not fake, but that's all
about putting people in position, putting people at the commission level,
and putting people at the state level, putting people at
the state If they're not investing year around, if you're
if you're gonna bring plies into the game, then plies
partner with somebody like myself or somebody like Uti Free,
somebody else to help bring this noise you're around. Because
what happens is the day at the election, you go,

(42:15):
you go back to talking about what you're talking about before,
and now you got to start the machine all over again.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
I ain't said nothing from the car since the election
about all kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
Well, he did say he had woke up. Remember he
said he missed the election night, but he woke up
and so he did say that.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
Then I ain't seen him talking about Starbucks and women feet.
I ain't seen him talking about.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
It, right, And that's the man I love. I ran
for office in twenty eleven in Orlando. The first person
I reached out to was Plies. I talked to his manager.
He said, you know, applies don't due politics. Hee not
in politics. So to see him doing this now, and
reached out to him again. Since then, by the way,
reached out to his manager to say, why don't you
help me get these people trained. You have a voice,

(42:57):
get these people train. In two thousand eleven, said man,
come on, let's do something with the hundred ye years,
the one hundred years record that he got. Let's do
something about mass incarceration in Florida. So when I watch
him doing that every day non stop, his heartbreaking to me,
because we do need our entertainers, but we need them
to I don't expect them to do the work year around.
Entertainers like getting applauses and see, this work is about
getting bulls. This work is not about applausing. They only

(43:19):
want to be no disrespect. But entertainers like responding to
the applause. So the minute you start booing them, the
minutes you start saying, I don't like you. What we
saw with Iceque when he took a chance and went
out there and talked about, you know, the state of
Black America, and people started booing him and out. We
ain't seen ice Ques since ethon, so you know that,
and people they can't take it. And then they say, oh,
I don't blame Ce for leaving, but I do, though

(43:40):
I love it. If I blame you though, because homie,
you don't set up here and got it. I done
reached out to Q two, you got everybody excited. I
don't expect you to do the work year around, but
partner with people they can because we need we need
people like that. Glorially come talk to your homegirl like
GLORIALA need people in her ear too, to know she
got a head. I love a story. Why why are

(44:01):
we not connecting her with people that actually know her story?
Sexy Red? Oh we don't need Sexy Red, Yes we do.
She'll hold di moved. Maybe y'all don't know how to
talk to it, but she can go partner with some
of the homies that not even on the list at all,
not even on a voter list. When you bring ten
thousand people into the fold, fifteen thousand people on the
fold is not even on anybody's list. That nobody's real.
That's how you win these elections. That's why Trump was
able to make that difference on people who were not

(44:23):
engaged at all. But in order to do that, you
have to do it year round. You cannot do it
no ninety days before the campaign. It's never gonna work.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Because I agree with you, I think I think what
we're saying is because I think that's what people think.
People think that entertainers are the leaders that are generals.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
They're not.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
They're the soldiers, right, and you want them to be
the soldiers, right, to go organize the people to bring
them back to the actual general the people to actually
do them.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Absolutely, yes, absolutely, And y'all can have the mic. We
ain't trying to take the mic from like we get
it to get the mic, but pass it on to
people that are really, really really trying to do it.
I will do the heavy lifting, the organizer will do
the heavy lifting. Our platforms are never going to be
as big, you know, as as a cube or a
glow reala or a sexy grade. And I don't want
to encourage discourage them to get out because that's also
what's happening because he now they even put their cloud

(45:06):
on the line and then now you got enter Tay like,
I'm not getting that shit again.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
Man, fucked especially.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Exactly because you don't put them in position to make
it seem like, oh, all we got to do is
have Beyonce get up and talk and it's all that
and now you got her look like you said of
the candid's on people calling her out people and that's
not on her. It's not on Beyonce. It's not on
these But you do need people to get people to
the stands, but it's on it's the year around organizers
that they just refuse to do. So I want eye
entertainers to stay in the game. I just want you

(45:33):
to partner with organizers that really actually give a damn
about this work because we really do, you know, year around,
and we don't have enough killer Mike's in my opinion.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
Tell them how to connect with you, and you'll push
the line.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Movement, yes, push the line politic until something happens. And
thank you guys for supporting that when we did, I
guess was two years ago. When I came to Breakfast Club,
we had over three hundred people. You know, they came
to Atlanta on their own dime to learn how to
be candidates, to learn how to be operatives, to learn
how to be organized. It's a non partisan training that
I created. These people flew from all over LA, Dallas, Houston,

(46:06):
New York. In the room, you know, three hundred people.
That's why when people tell me, don't nobody want to
do this, they're not interested. That's not true. Jay was
there in the fact that she came to the training,
came all the way from DC. These people were outside
at six am in the morning in the rain to
learn how to do this. They want the training, they
want to know how can I change on the local level.

(46:26):
But we just don't have enough support to get around.
So I'm asking people to text. Push the line all caps,
push the line to sixty six, eight sixty six, And
I'm trying to get partners. Guys. I'm trying to people
over fifty cities have said, can you bring the training here?

Speaker 6 (46:37):
But I'm teaching people in the training how to organize,
how to organize if.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
You want to be a candidate, if you want to
be an operative, if you want to be an organizer,
whatever it is you want to do. I believe my
training is one of the best. And the reason why
is because it truly is a military mindset. It truly
is cutting through all the bullshit. I've been to all
the trainings. I've been a Congressional Black Caucus training, a
White House training, Yell Women's school, law school. I've been

(47:01):
to them all, and all of them sell a bunch
of bullshit, respectfully. You know, they come in and tell
you, you know, you're gonna have a stab, You're gonna have this,
and that. My train is really designed to tell you know, Lauren,
it's really just gonna be you with twenty dollars. How
can we, you know, move from that? So people are hungry,
they want information. I'm trying to get people to partner
to help me do more of it because I can't
just do it, you know, myself and my own pocket.

(47:23):
I can't. I don't want to charge people. People don't
have the money to pay for it. So we're just
trying to, you know, keep building up that momentum and
hopefully be able to do.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
Any people that are to join, and you also looking
for I may write me a check.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Oh you need you.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
Make a donation right now? What you need?

Speaker 1 (47:38):
I know, charlet, let's give one hundred and fifty thousand
we can go.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
For that's a lot.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Now we can help get you that now thousand dollars holidays.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
And I do want to say that. Also, Wisconsin, I
don't know if y'all notice, largest black mail incarceration in
the country, the highest black femicide rate. Yes, more women
are murdered in Wisconsin then anywhere. They didn't give any
money to Milwaukee at all, So now you're expecting that's
what you were expecting. And also Wisconsin is one of

(48:10):
the most the least diverse state in the country. So
now you're gonna run a former state attorney in Wisconsin
where black men are locked up more than you know.
This is true. Whether you like it, we got to
deal with what it really is. They weren't trying to
hear any of that. They shit it on Wisconsin. They
shit it on Milwaukee. They used to do hip Hop
Week there every year. They don't have the budget to
do that anymore. They were trying to bring sake. How

(48:31):
Tess and how can we come down get out the vote.
They couldn't get twenty five hundred dollars together to say
let's get the vote out. They went to the white
voters in Wisconsin. So these are the kind of things, guys,
that we just have to put on the table. I
know people saying teds, move on, just deal with it. No,
we have to call this shit out, guys, because if
we continue to mismanage this money, then we're not, you know,
actually getting the help you know that we need. And
it's critically important.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
If I text pushed the line to this number, that's
still work, all right, text pushed the line to.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
Sixty six six. No, six six eight sixty six.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Texts push the line to six six eight sixty six
to join the Texas email list for push the line right.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Thank you, We appreciate you for joining us.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Thank you. Let me go through my list.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
No, it's all goodness. Doesn't figure out. It's the breakfast Club.
Good morning. Wake that ass up in the morning.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
The breakfast Club