October 1, 2025 • 20 mins
Loren breaks down expectations for Diddy’s upcoming sentencing, and it’s not looking all that good for Sean Combs. And Kai Cenat continues to entertain with Mafiathon and is leaving us asking the question… Is streaming the new late night TV?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody, you know, if you don't lie about that.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Right, Hey, y'all, what's up.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's Laura l Rosa and this is the Latest with
Laura l Rosa. This is your daily dig on all
things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the conversations
that shake the room. Now getting right on into the
latest because our last episode, oh my god, Okay, by
the time that episode came out, things have already changed.
Everything with news is moving so fast. I love the
(00:32):
fact that we are daily. I love the fact that
I try and keep you guys in as much real
time as I can because things move so fast. So
our last episode, if you have not listened to the
episode prior to this one, please go back and take
a listen, because we talked a lot about what the
road leading up to Diddy receiving an answer from the
judge in his federal case about acquittal, like what that
(00:57):
road has been about acquittal or about new trial? Last night,
the judge submitted his answer, and he denied Diddy's requests
for an acquittal or for a new trial. Based on
his response, the arguments of Diddy's team, you know that
they're making which did you know They talk about Diddy's
constitutional rights being violated because of the way that you know,
(01:21):
prostitution and the criminalization of prostitution is being approached in
this case, and he says, you know, he doesn't buy
into that.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
They also talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Uh, the intent of what was the intent of the
men who the escorts who flew in to these various
places with Cassie and Diddy and with Jane Doe and Diddy.
D c ME has always argued there was never an
intent to have sex. But whatever happened, there was a
choice of the escorts and everything was consensual and that's
why it can't be considered. You know, on the Disman Act,
(01:52):
the judge also wasn't buying it there. But again on
the last episode, I talked to you guys, and I
told you, you know, the judges attitude in his posturing
with Diddy isn't unfair in my opinion as far as
and I don't mean like, do I think Diddy should
be in jail twenty years because of the Man Act.
That's not what I'm referring to when I talk about fairness.
(02:13):
What I'm talking about is the way that the judge
has been evaluating both sides of information. You know, he
is just as hard on the prosecutors to provide you know,
context and case law as he is on Ditty team.
That's what I mean by fairness in my opinion. That's
I've noticed that. You know, he is very thorough on
both sides. But he made this decision, and I believe,
(02:33):
and you know, I believe that we can take a
lot of thought from his decision on the acquittal.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I believe that. I do believe that.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And when I say that, I mean I think that
it kind of shows you where the court is when
it comes to Diddy. I was going to say the Diddler, Wow,
where the court is when it comes to Didty? And
the only reason why I say that is because you
got to look at, you know, again, what this journey
has been. It's been denial on him on did he
being able to come home and frite this case from home?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
It's been and again.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
To the fairness, you know, a jury decided that the
RICO wasn't a thing which saved Diddy's life to a
certain extent because you know, those charges were way heavier.
Even though he still does face jail time, But now
here we are talking about acquittal and the judge is
really not buying into a lot of the things that
(03:29):
are you know, being brought up by did it seem
as to why a new trial or an acquittal should happen.
And you know, in the judges letter, he starts off
by talking about, you know, the only reason why someone
asks for an acquittal is because of evidence and the
claim that evidence are not the only reason. But in
Diddy's case, the reason why an acquittal is being asked
for is because did he says that the evidence was
(03:51):
not substantial enough. And not only was it not substantial enough,
but his constitutional rights are being violated. And when it
comes to the whole conversation around evidence and it being substantial,
the judge feels like the prosecution put on a very substance.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Like substantial and fact.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Based evidence based case or proven like things, evidence based
case that was.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Proven to be fact.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I'm a bit nervous, you know, for Diddy, and and
you know, I think you do the crime, you gotta
do the time. I get that, but I've always thought,
you know, but did he been But did he being
in jail for a little over a year with the
sentencing guidelines and prosecutors. At one point they were talking about,
you know, like anywhere from four to five years per count.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I just I thought that we were gonna be looking
at maybe about like five to six years, anywhere from
three to six and did he would get that time
served and you know all the things. But and I
think there's a lot of people who believe that Diddy
is going to be able to get the time served
and come home on like those supervision conditions that his
team mentioned he'd be down for. I don't think that
that's what's going to happen. And you know, I can't predict,
(05:02):
even though I'm doing it, I really can't because there's
a lot more thought that the judge has to put
into this. We still, you know, there's going to be
people testifying at the sentencing. I know the prosecutors put
in a letter stating that Mia, who you know listed
as a woman listed as Mia, a former assistant of Ditty's,
(05:22):
that she wants to testify at the sentencing hearing. There's just,
you know, there's a lot of things that go into this.
But I'm nervous because I think Diddy's going to be
hit with some hard time. And the reason why I
think that, again, it's just because of the fostering of
the court thus far. It does not feel like anyone
in that courtroom, from the jury now to the judge,
(05:43):
feels like Diddy is a rehabilitated man who could cope
on his own outside of prison and really get the
help in the reform that he needs. And yeah, I
just I don't see it going easy on him.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't. So that's gonna be a really tough day.
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
We're two days away from the sentencing and I will
be in the stancing. I also be doing NBC New
York here in New York from the courthouse after that
as well too, so you guys can be able to
catch me there on Friday.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
It will be allowed to cover.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
But I didn't want to give you guys that update
because we talked about this so much in our last episode.
Now in other news, completely switching gears, Kai sanat, you know,
bringing up the energy a bit, Kai Sanai. I've been
so I've been watching Kay Sanai streams more recently and
(06:40):
just covering them here on the Breakfast Club. And I
say here because I'm shooting from the Breakfast Club Studio
today and then also you know, making mention of it
here on the Latest with Laurna The Roads of the Podcast.
When I first discovered Kay Sanai, it was in the Pandemic.
A friend of mine was just like, yo, you ever
watched this boy? His name is Kai. He streams and
at the time, the only person I knew that streamed,
(07:02):
Like I knew about going live on Instagram, YouTube and
all the things, but the only person I knew that
did it a bit was academics. Because you know, I'm
in the space of like, I tuned in the streams
because I want to get like I want to see
what like news, Like what are people saying about news?
Kai is so different. He doesn't care about none of
that stuff. He's just there having a good time, vibing
with the chat. It's like one big sleepover, right. But yeah,
(07:24):
So it was a pandemic and he was doing you know,
the twenty four hour streams, and I just I thought
the idea of it was insane.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I was like, I gotta watch this.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
And I remember the first couple of times I watched him,
I'm like, I didn't really understand it, but I was
like if you can make money doing this the way
that the world is going to change even more because
the pandemic was already changing for creators, Like I think
that that was a time for creators everywhere in any
industry to really give it their best shot. And if
(07:55):
it stuck, people build businesses and whole careers and lives
off of the pandemic, Kyle Saat being one of them,
and he talks about that in history with like, you know,
school being shut down because of the pandemic and streaming
and all the stuff. But I just remember being like, yo,
if you can make money on the internet without having
to do all of the like I need to say
this to go viral, I need to do this like
(08:16):
the gimmicky stuff, because there was no gimmick.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'm like, yo.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
When I'm watching it with my friend who first told
me about Ky, I'm like, what's the gist? Like, like
what am I watching? And my friend literally was like,
now they just put like him and his homie stay
in his big crib in La twenty four hours. You
get to see them do everything and they do pranks
on each other. It's it's just one big sleepover, like
one big hangout and I'm like, that's it, and I
(08:41):
couldn't fathom. It's not that I didn't understand what Kyle
was doing. I think it was I couldn't fathom someone
being able to get that much success and not have
a gimmick, like I think even when you watch you know,
an academics, not even a gimmick, but controversy. There are
certain controversy to a lot of people who do things
on the internet and as to make the numbers go.
(09:02):
Kai is such good, clean fun But I was watching
and been watching the last few days of The Mafia
than and the sleepover that he did with Kevin Hart
and Drewski, and you know, they announced that they have
this movie coming the you know, this horror like comedy
ish movie coming in the stream. It's called The Stream
from Hell. And I was just thinking about how much
(09:23):
they've been able to do from there, and then I.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Saw this article. It's like a breakdown.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's kind of a thread that Complex did and it
talked about streaming taking over late night TV. Now, it's
always been a goal of mine to have a late
night talk show. The late night talk show space to me,
like has always been interesting because I feel like it's
upper brow and people respect it. You know, the guests
are always good, the production is good. It's something to
aspire to. Like you don't just get a late night space,
(09:50):
you know, but it's fun Like because you're a late
night you can be a bit more controversial, you can
be funny, you can be a little bit more free.
Daytime TV is so buttoned up, and you know, like
once you hit primetime, it eases up and it's more entertaining.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And in late night it's just like, look, it's all in,
even though you.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Still have rules and regulations because of the FCC, But like
y'all get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
You have a lot more fun. There's a lot more freedom.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Complex did this article about how streaming is taking over
late night TV, and I started thinking about it, and
I'm like, when I was watching Kay sannat Drew Ski
and Kevin Heart's sleepover, it was late night TV hours,
I fell asleep watching them, and there were so many
people tuned in doing the same thing, and everybody was gathered.
The whole world is watching because now not only do
(10:37):
you have one of the biggest streamers in the world Kaisina,
but you have Drew Ski, who is you know, demolished
the internet space. But Kevin Hart who brings that cloth
of like real celebrity, you know what I mean. So
if you would tune into a Foulon or a Chimo
to watch Kevin Hart, you would tune into a stream
and a lot of my friends would be honest with you, guys,
(10:58):
I was texting them like, hey, are y'all watching the stream?
They didn't know how to get to it, some of
them because they don't have Twitch. But the people that
there were people that night that downloaded it just because
they wanted to see Kevin Hart with Drew Ski and
ky Sanat, right, even if they're not active Twitch users.
So in this article they talk about how, you know,
as the late night TV like time slide continues to
(11:19):
slip with a certain demographic, the eighteen and forty nine demographic,
which is a big demographic talking point. I know, you
know in radio you focus a lot on that demographic
as well. They complex is basically saying ky Sanat has
it figured out. He could be the not even could be.
He already is, but it's like people need to pay
attention to it. He is the go to for late
(11:39):
night TV or a rendition of it. So they talk
about the fact that when Kai Drewski and Kevin Hart
did their last stream that was some time ago. That
was back when they had the whole Adams family set
up and drew Ski called the kid fat and that
was so viral. It was like a whole thing and
the kid the mom tried to and like all that stuff.
(12:00):
They talk about how that broke so many records. But
then the recent stream that they did, the one I
was sudden, you guys that I watched on September twenty ninth,
it did so many crazy numbers and the numbers aren't
even fully like calculated. Yet they say again, drew thousands
of viewers. Ere for more high gienx, memorable moments and
potentially record breaking feat The Surgeon popularity is not new
(12:24):
for the trio. For example, they're late night stream on
June tenth, twenty twenty four, that's the streaming I was
talking to you guys about, broke the North American twitch
viewership record, reaching a peak of seven hundred and twelve thousand.
Over seven hundred and twelve thousand views concurrently over the
eleven point five hour sleepoverstream, the event attracted four point
nine five million unique viewers. So then they start talking
(12:48):
about how, like, you know, people in that eighteen to
forty nine space we're looking for something to watch at
night on TV, whether it's something that informs you, something
that's entertaining, but if it's all of them you tuning
in and Kay Sanna is on the rise or he is,
I mean he's creaming a crop at this point, and
he's he heavily excels in that space. Now they talk
(13:10):
about how you know, in this eighteen or forty nine demographic,
that's the advertising range where when you talk about traditional TV,
a lot of people in that age range are leaving
from watching traditional TV and we're heading on over to media.
And I think, if I'm being honest with you guys,
it's like, think about when you're in your bed on
(13:31):
your phone at night, right if there's nothing on TV,
Like in order for something to me to watch something
like I'm falling asleep too, it has to really really
bring me in. Like I don't remember the last time
I was like eager to get to bed to watch
something and I was I was so excited to tune
into Kysonai. I was so mad to sleep over took
so long as to start, it took forever. Like Ki
(13:51):
I did a whole thing at his house before he
went there. I was so mad because I'm like, yo,
I'm going to fall asleep. But yeah, so we are,
we're seeking something to look at, so complex goes on.
A twenty twenty five Pew research study conducted in August
showed that a proportion of the stated age range is
turning the social media platforms for news and entertainment, and
it's less likely to consistently tune into television and print media.
(14:15):
And it's just because, if I'm being honest with you,
there's no edge there. And I know that like TV
has like rules and regulations, which is why I said,
I always felt like if I ended up with a
TV show, I would always was like, oh my god,
I would love for it to be late night TV.
But I think right now, there's nothing late night that
would bring us in because where are we going then?
And it made me think about Kimmel, right And they
(14:36):
talk about Kimmel, they say, outside of the you know
that whole situation with Donald Trump, Kimmel is a show
that is you know, it's it's Jimmy Kimmel. But At
the same time, the late night talk show space has
been losing viewership consistently since twenty fifteen, according to this
Pew study that Complex is citing, and outside of that
(14:58):
Donald Trump moment, there haven't been huge spikes in late
night talk show TV.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Not nothing like what you see.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
When you have a Kai Sannat, a Kevin Hart and
a Drewski together late night on a stream and they
talk about a lot of the late night shows. So
Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon and granted, Stephen Colbert's show was
top rated. That's why when it went off air, people
were like, what is happening? Like obviously something was going
or when it when it was announced that they would
be going off air after you know, they finished their season,
(15:26):
people were like, what is going on? But it's the
space in general, it's just not hitting like it used to.
But Kai is giving you know, what discould potentially look like.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
He's giving it a run for his money.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
And I just thought that this article of via Complex
was really interesting because when you think about like where
media is today, like I'm on the radio, we're also
on social reporting about streaming, so people listening in their
car are getting to hear about internet streaming, and it's
(16:02):
because kysonat has a mass, a crazy amount of viewership.
But even more so, it's because it marries with what
radio wants to hear, which is, you know, you want
to learn something, you want to feel motivated. He does
the motivational speeches, but also to if you tune it
into a breakfast club, you want the celebrity stuff. Kai
has been hosting some of the biggest celebrities in the world.
(16:24):
Lebron James pulled up to the stream to cut Kysonnant's
hair on the last day of the stream. We do
have Lebron James's motivational speech that we're gonna end this
segment with, but pulled up cut his.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Hair in it. I mean, it was just so happy
to be there.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Alicia Keys before that, Mariah Carey, He's had such big names.
And then of course you do Kevin Hart Drewski on
stream for the sleepover, Like this is really the evolution
of a lot. But Complex News is calling this the
evolution of late night TV. I want to know what
y'all think. Do you guys see late night TV evolving
into streaming? You take a variety show and I know
(17:01):
Nick Cannon has a Nick at Night where he's doing
a late night TV show as well, and he's doing it.
It is on some streaming platforms, but I know that
you can also watch it other places as well too.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But is this the next step in late night TV?
Can you see the Too Married?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
What Ky Sanat does with a late night TV show
format like a Kimmel or because Kai does do a
little interview here and there. I know when Tianna Taylor
was on there he got into some things about Aaron Pierre.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So can you see the Too Married? Not Tiana Taylor
and Kai Snat.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I'm talking about the format of streaming and streamers and
what Kai Sinnat does and what late night TV is
missing and if so, where are.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
We watching it? Is it twitch?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Like? Is Twitch taking over? Because how do you marry that?
Then the NBC's are they broadcasting what a twitch will
be broadcasting? How does all that work? I've also noted
some newsrooms beginning to stream as well. I saw TMZ
doing it. You know, it's it's a thing, and I've
said I think it would be cool to get into
the space with figuring out how and what makes sense
is the right thing?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
But there's a shift.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Let me know what you guys can get out there
in the streets, and it's tweet for the truths outside,
outside outside. Okay, every other page our goal, let's talk
about it. I'm Laura l Rosa. This is the latest
with Laura Rosa. Now before we get on out of here,
some motivation from the goat himself, Lebron James. This is
him from kay Stina's Mafia than three ending out kai
(18:24):
thirty days of streaming twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
If you somebody growing up without a mom, without a dad,
with our siblings, without a passion, without a goal, without
life in general, bro, it's not over for you. The
man above never gives us more than we can handle
us individuals, no matter if you're a female or a male,
(18:47):
no matter who you are in life, everyone has a purpose.
You just have to find that purpose and then tap
into that purpose. You're gonna need somebody none of us
can do about ourselves. And this is a true testament
of the last thirty days that we've seen someone not
be able to do it by himself. Lock in, believe
in what you believe in. Nobody else matter. You have
(19:09):
to hold yourself accountable. You have to hold yourself to
your truth. You have to hold yourself to your beliefs,
and always believe in the power of the man above,
because nobody in the history of life been able to
do it by themselves, nobody. Don't worry about the haters,
they ain't shit. Don't worry about the naysayers, because they
(19:29):
ain't shit. Whenever you feel in a way about yourself,
you look in the mirror and you say, you are
the only thing that matter. There's a good quote by
Theodore Roosevelt that I always believe in and I always
look at. It's called the Man in Arena, and the
basis of the quote is about all the doubters in
(19:49):
the naysayers can say everything that they want to say,
but they have never stepped inside the arena, so they
don't even know what it feels like to have blood,
sweating tears. So how can they tell you what the
hell to do if they've never done it? Right. Yes,
at the end of the day, be true, be loyal,
be perseverant, just love yourself.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Man King James.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Signing off, You guys to be anywhere with anybody talking
about all these things. But you guys prove every single
time you show up that you'd rather be right here
with me. I appreciate you guys for you know, always
showing up. And if you want to check out that
article again, it is a breakdown that complex pop which
is complex, complex is pop culture? ARM did go take
(20:34):
a look at It's pretty interesting. I see you guys
in my next episode.
I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything
and everybody, you know, if you don't lie about that.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Right, Hey, y'all, what's up.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It's Laura l Rosa and this is the Latest with
Laura l Rosa. This is your daily dig on all
things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the conversations
that shake the room. Now getting right on into the
latest because our last episode, oh my god, Okay, by
the time that episode came out, things have already changed.
Everything with news is moving so fast. I love the
(00:32):
fact that we are daily. I love the fact that
I try and keep you guys in as much real
time as I can because things move so fast. So
our last episode, if you have not listened to the
episode prior to this one, please go back and take
a listen, because we talked a lot about what the
road leading up to Diddy receiving an answer from the
judge in his federal case about acquittal, like what that
(00:57):
road has been about acquittal or about new trial? Last night,
the judge submitted his answer, and he denied Diddy's requests
for an acquittal or for a new trial. Based on
his response, the arguments of Diddy's team, you know that
they're making which did you know They talk about Diddy's
constitutional rights being violated because of the way that you know,
(01:21):
prostitution and the criminalization of prostitution is being approached in
this case, and he says, you know, he doesn't buy
into that.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
They also talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Uh, the intent of what was the intent of the
men who the escorts who flew in to these various
places with Cassie and Diddy and with Jane Doe and Diddy.
D c ME has always argued there was never an
intent to have sex. But whatever happened, there was a
choice of the escorts and everything was consensual and that's
why it can't be considered. You know, on the Disman Act,
(01:52):
the judge also wasn't buying it there. But again on
the last episode, I talked to you guys, and I
told you, you know, the judges attitude in his posturing
with Diddy isn't unfair in my opinion as far as
and I don't mean like, do I think Diddy should
be in jail twenty years because of the Man Act.
That's not what I'm referring to when I talk about fairness.
(02:13):
What I'm talking about is the way that the judge
has been evaluating both sides of information. You know, he
is just as hard on the prosecutors to provide you know,
context and case law as he is on Ditty team.
That's what I mean by fairness in my opinion. That's
I've noticed that. You know, he is very thorough on
both sides. But he made this decision, and I believe,
(02:33):
and you know, I believe that we can take a
lot of thought from his decision on the acquittal.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I believe that. I do believe that.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And when I say that, I mean I think that
it kind of shows you where the court is when
it comes to Diddy. I was going to say the Diddler, Wow,
where the court is when it comes to Didty? And
the only reason why I say that is because you
got to look at, you know, again, what this journey
has been. It's been denial on him on did he
being able to come home and frite this case from home?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
It's been and again.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
To the fairness, you know, a jury decided that the
RICO wasn't a thing which saved Diddy's life to a
certain extent because you know, those charges were way heavier.
Even though he still does face jail time, But now
here we are talking about acquittal and the judge is
really not buying into a lot of the things that
(03:29):
are you know, being brought up by did it seem
as to why a new trial or an acquittal should happen.
And you know, in the judges letter, he starts off
by talking about, you know, the only reason why someone
asks for an acquittal is because of evidence and the
claim that evidence are not the only reason. But in
Diddy's case, the reason why an acquittal is being asked
for is because did he says that the evidence was
(03:51):
not substantial enough. And not only was it not substantial enough,
but his constitutional rights are being violated. And when it
comes to the whole conversation around evidence and it being substantial,
the judge feels like the prosecution put on a very substance.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Like substantial and fact.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Based evidence based case or proven like things, evidence based
case that was.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Proven to be fact.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I'm a bit nervous, you know, for Diddy, and and
you know, I think you do the crime, you gotta
do the time. I get that, but I've always thought,
you know, but did he been But did he being
in jail for a little over a year with the
sentencing guidelines and prosecutors. At one point they were talking about,
you know, like anywhere from four to five years per count.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I just I thought that we were gonna be looking
at maybe about like five to six years, anywhere from
three to six and did he would get that time
served and you know all the things. But and I
think there's a lot of people who believe that Diddy
is going to be able to get the time served
and come home on like those supervision conditions that his
team mentioned he'd be down for. I don't think that
that's what's going to happen. And you know, I can't predict,
(05:02):
even though I'm doing it, I really can't because there's
a lot more thought that the judge has to put
into this. We still, you know, there's going to be
people testifying at the sentencing. I know the prosecutors put
in a letter stating that Mia, who you know listed
as a woman listed as Mia, a former assistant of Ditty's,
(05:22):
that she wants to testify at the sentencing hearing. There's just,
you know, there's a lot of things that go into this.
But I'm nervous because I think Diddy's going to be
hit with some hard time. And the reason why I
think that, again, it's just because of the fostering of
the court thus far. It does not feel like anyone
in that courtroom, from the jury now to the judge,
(05:43):
feels like Diddy is a rehabilitated man who could cope
on his own outside of prison and really get the
help in the reform that he needs. And yeah, I
just I don't see it going easy on him.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't. So that's gonna be a really tough day.
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
We're two days away from the sentencing and I will
be in the stancing. I also be doing NBC New
York here in New York from the courthouse after that
as well too, so you guys can be able to
catch me there on Friday.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
It will be allowed to cover.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
But I didn't want to give you guys that update
because we talked about this so much in our last episode.
Now in other news, completely switching gears, Kai sanat, you know,
bringing up the energy a bit, Kai Sanai. I've been
so I've been watching Kay Sanai streams more recently and
(06:40):
just covering them here on the Breakfast Club. And I
say here because I'm shooting from the Breakfast Club Studio
today and then also you know, making mention of it
here on the Latest with Laurna The Roads of the Podcast.
When I first discovered Kay Sanai, it was in the Pandemic.
A friend of mine was just like, yo, you ever
watched this boy? His name is Kai. He streams and
at the time, the only person I knew that streamed,
(07:02):
Like I knew about going live on Instagram, YouTube and
all the things, but the only person I knew that
did it a bit was academics. Because you know, I'm
in the space of like, I tuned in the streams
because I want to get like I want to see
what like news, Like what are people saying about news?
Kai is so different. He doesn't care about none of
that stuff. He's just there having a good time, vibing
with the chat. It's like one big sleepover, right. But yeah,
(07:24):
So it was a pandemic and he was doing you know,
the twenty four hour streams, and I just I thought
the idea of it was insane.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I was like, I gotta watch this.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
And I remember the first couple of times I watched him,
I'm like, I didn't really understand it, but I was
like if you can make money doing this the way
that the world is going to change even more because
the pandemic was already changing for creators, Like I think
that that was a time for creators everywhere in any
industry to really give it their best shot. And if
(07:55):
it stuck, people build businesses and whole careers and lives
off of the pandemic, Kyle Saat being one of them,
and he talks about that in history with like, you know,
school being shut down because of the pandemic and streaming
and all the stuff. But I just remember being like, yo,
if you can make money on the internet without having
to do all of the like I need to say
this to go viral, I need to do this like
(08:16):
the gimmicky stuff, because there was no gimmick.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'm like, yo.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
When I'm watching it with my friend who first told
me about Ky, I'm like, what's the gist? Like, like
what am I watching? And my friend literally was like,
now they just put like him and his homie stay
in his big crib in La twenty four hours. You
get to see them do everything and they do pranks
on each other. It's it's just one big sleepover, like
one big hangout and I'm like, that's it, and I
(08:41):
couldn't fathom. It's not that I didn't understand what Kyle
was doing. I think it was I couldn't fathom someone
being able to get that much success and not have
a gimmick, like I think even when you watch you know,
an academics, not even a gimmick, but controversy. There are
certain controversy to a lot of people who do things
on the internet and as to make the numbers go.
(09:02):
Kai is such good, clean fun But I was watching
and been watching the last few days of The Mafia
than and the sleepover that he did with Kevin Hart
and Drewski, and you know, they announced that they have
this movie coming the you know, this horror like comedy
ish movie coming in the stream. It's called The Stream
from Hell. And I was just thinking about how much
(09:23):
they've been able to do from there, and then I.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Saw this article. It's like a breakdown.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's kind of a thread that Complex did and it
talked about streaming taking over late night TV. Now, it's
always been a goal of mine to have a late
night talk show. The late night talk show space to me,
like has always been interesting because I feel like it's
upper brow and people respect it. You know, the guests
are always good, the production is good. It's something to
aspire to. Like you don't just get a late night space,
(09:50):
you know, but it's fun Like because you're a late
night you can be a bit more controversial, you can
be funny, you can be a little bit more free.
Daytime TV is so buttoned up, and you know, like
once you hit primetime, it eases up and it's more entertaining.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And in late night it's just like, look, it's all in,
even though you.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Still have rules and regulations because of the FCC, But like
y'all get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
You have a lot more fun. There's a lot more freedom.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Complex did this article about how streaming is taking over
late night TV, and I started thinking about it, and
I'm like, when I was watching Kay sannat Drew Ski
and Kevin Heart's sleepover, it was late night TV hours,
I fell asleep watching them, and there were so many
people tuned in doing the same thing, and everybody was gathered.
The whole world is watching because now not only do
(10:37):
you have one of the biggest streamers in the world Kaisina,
but you have Drew Ski, who is you know, demolished
the internet space. But Kevin Hart who brings that cloth
of like real celebrity, you know what I mean. So
if you would tune into a Foulon or a Chimo
to watch Kevin Hart, you would tune into a stream
and a lot of my friends would be honest with you, guys,
(10:58):
I was texting them like, hey, are y'all watching the stream?
They didn't know how to get to it, some of
them because they don't have Twitch. But the people that
there were people that night that downloaded it just because
they wanted to see Kevin Hart with Drew Ski and
ky Sanat, right, even if they're not active Twitch users.
So in this article they talk about how, you know,
as the late night TV like time slide continues to
(11:19):
slip with a certain demographic, the eighteen and forty nine demographic,
which is a big demographic talking point. I know, you
know in radio you focus a lot on that demographic
as well. They complex is basically saying ky Sanat has
it figured out. He could be the not even could be.
He already is, but it's like people need to pay
attention to it. He is the go to for late
(11:39):
night TV or a rendition of it. So they talk
about the fact that when Kai Drewski and Kevin Hart
did their last stream that was some time ago. That
was back when they had the whole Adams family set
up and drew Ski called the kid fat and that
was so viral. It was like a whole thing and
the kid the mom tried to and like all that stuff.
(12:00):
They talk about how that broke so many records. But
then the recent stream that they did, the one I
was sudden, you guys that I watched on September twenty ninth,
it did so many crazy numbers and the numbers aren't
even fully like calculated. Yet they say again, drew thousands
of viewers. Ere for more high gienx, memorable moments and
potentially record breaking feat The Surgeon popularity is not new
(12:24):
for the trio. For example, they're late night stream on
June tenth, twenty twenty four, that's the streaming I was
talking to you guys about, broke the North American twitch
viewership record, reaching a peak of seven hundred and twelve thousand.
Over seven hundred and twelve thousand views concurrently over the
eleven point five hour sleepoverstream, the event attracted four point
nine five million unique viewers. So then they start talking
(12:48):
about how, like, you know, people in that eighteen to
forty nine space we're looking for something to watch at
night on TV, whether it's something that informs you, something
that's entertaining, but if it's all of them you tuning
in and Kay Sanna is on the rise or he is,
I mean he's creaming a crop at this point, and
he's he heavily excels in that space. Now they talk
(13:10):
about how you know, in this eighteen or forty nine demographic,
that's the advertising range where when you talk about traditional TV,
a lot of people in that age range are leaving
from watching traditional TV and we're heading on over to media.
And I think, if I'm being honest with you guys,
it's like, think about when you're in your bed on
(13:31):
your phone at night, right if there's nothing on TV,
Like in order for something to me to watch something
like I'm falling asleep too, it has to really really
bring me in. Like I don't remember the last time
I was like eager to get to bed to watch
something and I was I was so excited to tune
into Kysonai. I was so mad to sleep over took
so long as to start, it took forever. Like Ki
(13:51):
I did a whole thing at his house before he
went there. I was so mad because I'm like, yo,
I'm going to fall asleep. But yeah, so we are,
we're seeking something to look at, so complex goes on.
A twenty twenty five Pew research study conducted in August
showed that a proportion of the stated age range is
turning the social media platforms for news and entertainment, and
it's less likely to consistently tune into television and print media.
(14:15):
And it's just because, if I'm being honest with you,
there's no edge there. And I know that like TV
has like rules and regulations, which is why I said,
I always felt like if I ended up with a
TV show, I would always was like, oh my god,
I would love for it to be late night TV.
But I think right now, there's nothing late night that
would bring us in because where are we going then?
And it made me think about Kimmel, right And they
(14:36):
talk about Kimmel, they say, outside of the you know
that whole situation with Donald Trump, Kimmel is a show
that is you know, it's it's Jimmy Kimmel. But At
the same time, the late night talk show space has
been losing viewership consistently since twenty fifteen, according to this
Pew study that Complex is citing, and outside of that
(14:58):
Donald Trump moment, there haven't been huge spikes in late
night talk show TV.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Not nothing like what you see.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
When you have a Kai Sannat, a Kevin Hart and
a Drewski together late night on a stream and they
talk about a lot of the late night shows. So
Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon and granted, Stephen Colbert's show was
top rated. That's why when it went off air, people
were like, what is happening? Like obviously something was going
or when it when it was announced that they would
be going off air after you know, they finished their season,
(15:26):
people were like, what is going on? But it's the
space in general, it's just not hitting like it used to.
But Kai is giving you know, what discould potentially look like.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
He's giving it a run for his money.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
And I just thought that this article of via Complex
was really interesting because when you think about like where
media is today, like I'm on the radio, we're also
on social reporting about streaming, so people listening in their
car are getting to hear about internet streaming, and it's
(16:02):
because kysonat has a mass, a crazy amount of viewership.
But even more so, it's because it marries with what
radio wants to hear, which is, you know, you want
to learn something, you want to feel motivated. He does
the motivational speeches, but also to if you tune it
into a breakfast club, you want the celebrity stuff. Kai
has been hosting some of the biggest celebrities in the world.
(16:24):
Lebron James pulled up to the stream to cut Kysonnant's
hair on the last day of the stream. We do
have Lebron James's motivational speech that we're gonna end this
segment with, but pulled up cut his.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Hair in it. I mean, it was just so happy
to be there.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Alicia Keys before that, Mariah Carey, He's had such big names.
And then of course you do Kevin Hart Drewski on
stream for the sleepover, Like this is really the evolution
of a lot. But Complex News is calling this the
evolution of late night TV. I want to know what
y'all think. Do you guys see late night TV evolving
into streaming? You take a variety show and I know
(17:01):
Nick Cannon has a Nick at Night where he's doing
a late night TV show as well, and he's doing it.
It is on some streaming platforms, but I know that
you can also watch it other places as well too.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But is this the next step in late night TV?
Can you see the Too Married?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
What Ky Sanat does with a late night TV show
format like a Kimmel or because Kai does do a
little interview here and there. I know when Tianna Taylor
was on there he got into some things about Aaron Pierre.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So can you see the Too Married? Not Tiana Taylor
and Kai Snat.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I'm talking about the format of streaming and streamers and
what Kai Sinnat does and what late night TV is
missing and if so, where are.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
We watching it? Is it twitch?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Like? Is Twitch taking over? Because how do you marry that?
Then the NBC's are they broadcasting what a twitch will
be broadcasting? How does all that work? I've also noted
some newsrooms beginning to stream as well. I saw TMZ
doing it. You know, it's it's a thing, and I've
said I think it would be cool to get into
the space with figuring out how and what makes sense
is the right thing?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
But there's a shift.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Let me know what you guys can get out there
in the streets, and it's tweet for the truths outside,
outside outside. Okay, every other page our goal, let's talk
about it. I'm Laura l Rosa. This is the latest
with Laura Rosa. Now before we get on out of here,
some motivation from the goat himself, Lebron James. This is
him from kay Stina's Mafia than three ending out kai
(18:24):
thirty days of streaming twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
If you somebody growing up without a mom, without a dad,
with our siblings, without a passion, without a goal, without
life in general, bro, it's not over for you. The
man above never gives us more than we can handle
us individuals, no matter if you're a female or a male,
(18:47):
no matter who you are in life, everyone has a purpose.
You just have to find that purpose and then tap
into that purpose. You're gonna need somebody none of us
can do about ourselves. And this is a true testament
of the last thirty days that we've seen someone not
be able to do it by himself. Lock in, believe
in what you believe in. Nobody else matter. You have
(19:09):
to hold yourself accountable. You have to hold yourself to
your truth. You have to hold yourself to your beliefs,
and always believe in the power of the man above,
because nobody in the history of life been able to
do it by themselves, nobody. Don't worry about the haters,
they ain't shit. Don't worry about the naysayers, because they
(19:29):
ain't shit. Whenever you feel in a way about yourself,
you look in the mirror and you say, you are
the only thing that matter. There's a good quote by
Theodore Roosevelt that I always believe in and I always
look at. It's called the Man in Arena, and the
basis of the quote is about all the doubters in
(19:49):
the naysayers can say everything that they want to say,
but they have never stepped inside the arena, so they
don't even know what it feels like to have blood,
sweating tears. So how can they tell you what the
hell to do if they've never done it? Right. Yes,
at the end of the day, be true, be loyal,
be perseverant, just love yourself.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Man King James.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Signing off, You guys to be anywhere with anybody talking
about all these things. But you guys prove every single
time you show up that you'd rather be right here
with me. I appreciate you guys for you know, always
showing up. And if you want to check out that
article again, it is a breakdown that complex pop which
is complex, complex is pop culture? ARM did go take
(20:34):
a look at It's pretty interesting. I see you guys
in my next episode.
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