Gayle King has been labelled “too woke” by the right and Trump. The future of Gayle’s position at CBS has been the center of headlines lately , although her contract does currently run through May of next year. Loren also breaks down Kamala Harris’s interview with Stephen Colbert and calls for her to continue to serve the people. And lastly, a conversation about BET suspending the Hip Hop Awards as well as the Soul Train Awards!!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Toys.
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and everybody.
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You don't know if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
came in.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey, y'all, it's Laura le Rosa and this is another
episode of the Latest with Lauren l Rosa. This is
your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, exclusives.
Sometimes we do the exclusives here and all of the
conversations that shake the room. Now in this episode of
the Latest, getting right on into some things, because we
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got some places to go and some things to talk about.
We're gonna start off with more talk show news, talk show,
Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And y'all know we cover everything here at the Latest.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm not like a heavy political politic conversation er conversation
or I don't know is that a word. Basically, I
don't always talk about politics here, and you guys know
that it's more like pop culture trending topics. But more
lately Trump been coming on over to our side, so
we've been talking about him here.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
On the Latest.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Last episode, we talked a bit about Donald Trump, because
not even a bit. We took the whole episode and
we talked about Donald Trump. In his spat with Charlemagne.
Now today I'm back again with another one. Because listen,
Trump is never scared. Okay, Trump is always out here
shooting his shot at all of the outraging and just
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throwing the pot. So Trump tweeted out Gil's king career, sorry,
not tweeted. Let me get that right, because remember Trump,
he got taken off of X then when he came back,
he uses it. But like he really used. He really
uses his platform, truth social the most. So Trump posting
on truth Social. Gail King's career is over. She should
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have stayed with her belief in Trump. She never had
the courage to do so. No talent, no ratings, no strengths.
And he posted this because he was actually reposting and
bringing light to a New York Post article. This New
York Post article was exclusive that the New York Post did,
and that actually drives earlier today where they're reporting based
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on sources, that Gail King's career at CBS doing CBS
Mornings is looking murky. And the reason why they're saying
that this is happening, according to their source, is because
they're reporting that the higher ups at the network want
to move away from polarizing coverage. Basically, you know, coverage
that is too woke according to what you know, Trump
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and the Trump followers esque will deem as woke.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So, for instance, one of.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The examples that they give here in the article is
that one of the winners from RuPaul's Drag Race was
on CBS Mornings with Gail King and the winner his
name is Bob the Drag Queen. Now, he was publicizing
his first novel, Harriet Tubman Live in concert, right, so
he came on the show to do so. According to
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the New York Posts, the CBS Morning's website described the
book as a gender bending story where the historic icon
appears in modern day America to tell her story through
a hip hop album. Now, this is a story that
you know, was previously reported by the Post, but they're
just using it to insert it into this the show.
An example of what the network execs are trying to
get away from. So they point out this episode of
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the show because they have a quote and here from
another source of the New York Post does that alleges
that the source told the New York Post that the
audience of CBS Mornings does not want woke. They do
not like progressive and provocative bookings. Now we fast forward
to them pointing to Bob the drag Queen from RuPaul's
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Jagged Race, who was on the show promoting a book
about Harriet Tubman and Harriet Tubman finding herself in modern
day time and just telling her story through hip hop.
So they're like, they're talking about things that we don't want.
We know that, you know, they are very even when
they do have political conversations and the guests that they
bring on these political conversations, and the guests do not
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run away from being very vocal about how they feel
about President Trump, agreeing or not. And I'm sure this
source or whoever, anybody that's deeming CBS Mornings as a
woke platform would say that a lot of the guests
there are normally critical or President Trump. But you got
to see the pattern that's going on here right now
with Stephen Colbert in the Late Show. When that happened,
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CBS pointed to money finances. They talk numbers with Gail
King here in this New York Post article, And again,
all of this stuff from the New York Post is sourced, okay,
so it's not directly coming from anyone a CBS declined
to comment to The New York Post when The New
York Post reached out on this article, although they did
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comment on Stephen Colbert's cancelation of his show. The New
York Post points out in this article they alleged that
in the past three weeks, Gail King and her co
host lost between twenty percent and thirty percent of their
audience versus last year, and the advertiser coveted twenty five
to fifty four year old demographic according to Nielsen and
Nielsen for those of you guys who don't know, it's
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just a site or it's a data base that is
supposed to be, you know, very accurate when collecting numbers
as far as ratings and people and counts.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
So they're pointing to a study by Nielsen.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
They do not say when this study was last updated,
but they do use it in this article, which again
came out earlier today.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It is August fifth, five.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And then they go into mentioning that Gail King recently
signed an extension for between thirteen million dollars and fifteen
million dollars of her contract that runs through next May.
According to this well placed source that they're pinning this
whole report on Now. They also point out and like
I said, y'all are seeing a pattern here. They also
point out that that is the same month that CBS
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plans to pull the plug on the Late Night Show
with Stephen Colbert. And then once this report comes out,
Donald Trump then goes over to Truth Social amplifies it,
and he says Gail King's career is over. She should
have stayed with her belief in Trump. She never had
the courage to do so. No talent, no ratings, no strength. Now,
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Donald Trump has also come out about Kimmel. He tweeted
when Colbert's show was announced to have been canceled. He
has been very vocal against I mean, look, we just
talked about him having the conversation in the back and
forth that he had with Charlemagne because of Charlemage's apparents
on Fox News with Donald Trump's daughter in law Laura Trump.
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You gotta see the pattern here. I don't even have
to say it. You see the pattern here. And I
think at this point for me, just in watching all
of this, I was telling a friend the other day
when all the Charlemagne stuff happened, and I've said this
to Charlemagne too, even prior to the Trump situation, Like,
you know, because breakfast Club, I don't know about any
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other platform. I know about Breakfast Club because I worked there,
but because Breakfast Club has a variety of opinions, Like
we have conversations with Laura Trump, we have conversations with
people that might not agree with what I personally agree with,
Like I don't agree with a lot of the things,
the majority of the things, honestly, the whole lifestyle of
Donald Trump for the most part. But I'm never opposed
to have a conversation with people who are across the table.
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I also feel like, and I agree with the sentiment
of the president is the president at the time, and
you just do whatever you can best to make sure
that that person in that office is, you know, being
the best face and ambassador for what it is that
the people need, no matter where do people sit on
whatever side of the table.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But it's getting scared, it's getting real tricky out here.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And as a person in the media who you know,
y'all know me, like, I like to.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Lean toward truth.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
If I can't figure out who the source is or
source it myself or find it to be fact myself,
I don't like to touch it. I'm very careful about
certain things, but I think it's getting scared because it's like,
if you have an opinion at all, it seems like
that leans away from what our current administration believes should
be the conversation it should be done.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It gets tough out here for you.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And I will say, you know with Gail King even
having to tell somebody in the media space like, oh,
be careful about you having an honest opinion about something now.
Defamation and things of that nature are completely different because
legally there are certain things that you just can and
can't do when you are in this space, because your
audience is counting on you to be transparent, to be
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as neutral as you can be, or to be able
to define when you're not doing certain things, like when
you're giving your opinion about something and you want it
to be known as your opinion, your audience trusts that
you will give your opinion in a way that they
know it's an opinion versus something that they know or
can take and repeat as facts.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Right, But just being able to say how you feel
and not agreeing being.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Something that makes you think, yo, will I have a
job again? It is getting so scary, and it seems
like it's such a pattern. It's like stories break about,
like ratings and show's not doing well, and then Donald
Trump comes and he amplifies those stories, and he has
something to say about what you're doing, how you're doing it,
you know, and listen, this is not new. I mean,
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Donald Trump has always operated in the space as more
of like a celebrity in chief, so he's paying attention
to what's happening. He's responding to what's happening. But now
it's starting to result in things not being there anymore,
Stephen Colbert's show not being there anymore, joy read not
being on MSNBC anymore. Those things get scary a bit,
(09:26):
especially when you're sitting in my position. I'm like, yo,
not hello, I'm new here. Just begin building, Please don't
tear down everything. I need somewhere to be at, you
know what I mean. And I was watching Kamala Harris
she did speaking to Stephen Colbert. Kamala Harris is Stephen
Colbert's show, The Late Show, and it's her first interview
since losing the presidency. And now she has this new book,
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One hundred and seven Days, which talks about the time
that she had to run for president.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
And it was a very good interview.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
It was an interview about everything from what she's been
doing now to where her plans are moving forward. And
the news had come out that she did not plan
to run for governor and that, you know, she had
this book coming out, and then she goes on Stephen
Colbert and she says this, I.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Believe, and I always believed that as fragile as our
democracy is, our systems would be strong enough to defend
our most fundamental principles. And I think right now that
they're not as strong as they need to be. And
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I just don't want.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
To for now.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I don't want to go back in the system. I
want to travel the country. I want to listen to people.
I want to talk with people, and I don't want
it to be transactional where I'm asking for their vote. Now.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't agree with Kamala at all. I understand. I
think what she's trying to say. I think what she's
trying to say is that and I feel like it's
a cover up. To be honest with you, I'll get
to that. I think what she's trying to say is
that you don't have to be a president, a governor,
a mayor, you know, an elected official to be able
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to go out in your community, touch people, work for change,
do things that affect people, do things that get changed,
do things that get people what they need.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And that's where she wants to live now. Like she doesn't.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
She's not running away from the smoke, but she's approaching
the smoke differently. You know, she's not tripping off and
not being an elected official and all of the things
that come with it. And she talked about, you know,
because when Steven Colbert opened interview, the first thing he
asked her was, you know, have you got some sleep?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
How are you? Let's take listen to her answer. It's
nice to see you again. It's great to be First
of all, you look rested. Yeah, I'm happy for you.
Thank you you doing wa Oh, I'm fine. I'll get
fenty arrest in June. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So they hear her say that, right, She's had some
time to reflect and I guess really put into you know,
and really prioritize what's important for her at this point
in her life, whether that's being with family, getting to
spend time with her husband, her nieces, who she talks
so much about and just not being in the eye
of all of the scrutiny. Like I'm thinking about Gail King,
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I'm thinking about Joy read right, and I mean, Stephen
Colbert is unfortunate that his show is going off air,
especially because it doesn't make any sense and it feels
like censoring. But I'm thinking about these black women in
this space because I can identify with them. Of course
I can, because I'm a black woman in a media space.
I can identify with them a lot differently. And one
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of the first things I thought about was, man like,
you have to deal with people caring about what you wear,
how you wear, what's your hair look like, what's your
makeup look like?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Are you overdressed? Are you underdressed?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
The body type, what language you use, what language you
don't use, are you smiling? Who are you standing next to?
Who's this man that you're seting next to? Are you
dating him? Are you like? There's so many things that
just women in general have to deal with it, especially
when you're in a spotlight. And then Black women who
aren't afraid to speak out when they feel a way
about something, when they don't agree with something, who aren't
afraid to stand next to presidential candidates and now on
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top of all the things that society and just people
in general, and I feel like, you know, talking about
being WHOA. I don't want to sound who either, because
that's not my thing. I just like to I just
like to say how I feel, and how I feel
right now is like Yo, it's so much other things
that you deal with on a day to day trying
to figure out life, career and all the things. And
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don't get me wrong, I'm of course a lot younger
than Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris has had an amazing career.
She you know, is living her life. She's not complaining
about things. That's not what this that clip was. But
I'm just thinking about all of the microaggressions and just
the different silent battles that she's had to face and
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will honestly continue to have to face for the rest
of her life. Because she's Kamala Harris, who was once
vice president and she's a black woman vice president and
she ran for the presidency and she did not win it,
and she would have been the first black woman president
and just all these things right that she's going to
have to answer and speak to and never be able
to get around for the rest of her life. That
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she then has to couple with everything that, like she
was just once you come out the wound and you
walk a baby, your first flick of the hair as
a black woman, you got to learn how to deal
with issue and society and the people. So then you
bring all this extra spotlight and you know, politics is
such a everything to be in and I just can't imagine.
So I understand where she's coming from, but I don't
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agree with her. I don't feel like I do feel
like everybody has a place in change, but I do
feel like there are certain people who get the privilege
or the honor to have, you know, elected official status,
and I don't think that those people should ever back
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away from trying. And it sounds to me like, and listen,
maybe I'm reading in between the lines here, y'all. Let
me know what y'all took from it. Get in the comments,
get outside, in the tweets, in the streets, let me know,
be outside, we outside, we outside.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Okay, every other page, I'm loring the roads everywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
How you guys felt, it sounded to me like as
well rested as she said that she was, and you know,
as much as she's probably been able to, you know,
prioritize and just think about what's important and what she
don't want to deal with no more in her life. Man,
I know that feeling in her life. I think that
there's a responsibility that you can't ever escape as a
black person. And I think that she sounds tired still,
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Like she's tired. She sounds fed up, but she's making
it look good. She's making it sound good. And we
as black women do that all the time. Man, We
do that all the time, and we're so good at
it because for so so long, and you know, different generations,
like you're literally taught that, like you're taught to turn
the house into a home, you're taught to nurture, you're
taught to do so much that pours into other people
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and other things.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
And when I just told y'all, like man.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I felt that, like she's probably just tired of the bullshit. Like,
if I'm being honest with y'all, I get it. But
I think we need her in the position, and I
think that I don't understand where her purpose goes from here.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
If I'm being honest with you, I think.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
That no matter how tired she might feel right now,
no matter what happened in that office, no matter you know,
I'm sure she's tided of being asked about why she
didn't tell the truth about President Biden and all the things.
No matter how much that is getting on your nerves.
Your purpose is your purpose, and I just don't see
her getting away from public service. I can't, and I
honestly think we need people like Kamala Harris in public service,
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but we need people like Kamala Harris in a way
where Kamala Harris is able to be the person that
we watching these interviews.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Who yo.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
When Kamala Harris hat down with Oprah during her presidential campaign,
I was like, if she could be like this everywhere
she went, we good, especially in the White House. Like
we good because this is what we wanted from her
in the White House when we voted for Biden. I
voted for Biden because Kamala Harris was the VP on
the ticket and I thought that she'd be able to
keep things in check. I don't feel like she was
empowered the way that she should have been. And I mean,
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people say, well, she's just vice president, but we all
know what the We know what it was given, we
know why we went so hard for Biden in that election,
and I really don't think she was empowered the way
that she should have. I felt like she was put
in the shadow of everything Biden nomics when she went
to run, and I feel like by her not being
able to come out and just really speak how she
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wants to speak and do what she wants to do
and tell the truth and have to be loyal to
the Democratic Party, which again I'm not blaming her for it,
because as a black woman, I understand that, you know,
sometimes even going against the even when you want to
go up against the fire and stick it out, continue
to be in presidential offices and all these things and
all the things of the nature, you don't have the
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resources you're supposed to have to do so to be
able to actually do it where it's effective and it's
not just a freaking fight and mental tirade of like
you're breaking yourself down every single day. So I understand
her and I get where she's coming from, but I
don't agree that she can be as impactful now.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
She can have impact, don't get me wrong, And I'm not.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Taking away from what she'll do, because look, I'm not
out here public serving every single day, so people that are,
I feel like that's not even my place to kind
of like you're no critique or talk about as much.
But and just you know, for take of this conversation,
I think we need hers, Like she talked about having
people in certain places when it comes to this whole
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government thing, this whole politic thing, I think we need
her inside of the system that she says she don't
want to be a part of. For a little minute,
we need her there for sure. And lastly, up in
the latest, I was reading a article on my way
over to film the show today because Scott Mills from
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BEET sat down with Billboard and I'm pulling up the
article right now. When we talk about resources, people always
have a conversation around BT and what BT does with
what they do well, what they don't do well, what
we need, what we should see, all of the things.
So Scott Mills has been doing some interviews. BT is
celebrating forty five years of the network and being one
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of the leading black media platforms. So Scott Mills, the
CEO at BET, you know, sat down with Billboard to
talk about a pledge to continue to always be a
leading media platform for black people and four Black Things
and Black content. Now, during this interview, the journalist acts,
Scott Mills, can you confirm the chatter that two of
the annual shows and BT Awards franchise, the Soul Trained
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and Hip Hop Awards, So Salt Train Awards and it's separately,
the BT Hip Hop Awards are no longer going to
be presented.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So they're done? Are they done or not?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
And he says it's less about them being no longer
and more about our team having to reimagine them for
this changing media landscape that we find ourselves in. I
think that we're going to see more people taking franchises
and saying this might have started on linear television, but
now I'm gonna move it to another space. Do I
move it to streaming or do I make it another platform?
So for BT linear, we have suspended the Soul Train
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and Hip Hop Awards. Show beet is announcing that they
have suspended the BT Hip Hop Awards and the BT
Soul trend of the wards. Y'all list is insane because
suspend it is suspended, like doesn't mean indefinite. But I
do think that there is something to having to take
it off of TV, to have to figure out what
to do with it, versus it being such a vehicle
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and be built up enough where it stays on linear
until you make that transition just because you wanted to
move forward strong to match where we are right now,
which is what Scott Mills is saying. To me, this
sounds like a roundabout answer to say it's not doing
well on linear TV and we need to figure out
something else for it, because they are coveted shows and
something across digital is a lot easier to execute as
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far as like you know, keeping something on linear, you
need certain numbers, you need advertising dollars, you need money,
You still want to need coins to produce an award
show on digital, don't get me wrong, But to have
it across linear TV, especially where it's taking up a
slot where advertisers might want to put something else or
might be asking for something that is reaching more people,
are a larger, stronger demographic, that is a big like
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this is a big statement that Scott Mills is making now.
I will say I feel like what BT has done
with the NAACP Image Awards over the years, even like
last year, the show has gotten. Production is amazing, the
quality and that goes into the dollars that are being
put behind it.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I love to see the celebrities showing up for the
show as well.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Like the NAACP Image Awards have had some pretty big
shows these last couple of years now. The second question
the journalists followed up with was they asked about the
twenty twenty five BT Awards viewership dropped almost fifty percent
in the key demographic, which is eighteen to forty nine
demo from last year's show. Are there concerns about the
longevity of that long standing show, so, he said?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Scott Mills said, as yourship was down.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
However, the cable ecosystem is smaller today, and that's what
I'm saying by when he talking about taking Assault Train
Awards off of linear TV. That's why to me it's like, Okay,
this is saying something because it is very hard to
get something on linear TV today. And it's not because
people aren't watching. I mean, yes, less people are watching
live TV, people are watching things on streaming, people are
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bulk watching things. You know, you have the Netflixes, Amazon Primes.
BT Plus was created, that's one of their vehicles because
people are streaming, but there are still pockets of television
where you do gather people and you get numbers. But
it's not as easy anymore because it's smaller. There's less
people watching, so you're fighting hard.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You're fighting very.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Very hard for that viewership, especially to maintain it year
to year to year to year. So he says, yeah,
that's just the reality of it. You know, the ecosystem
is way smaller today. But he says, you know, he
gave a shout out to Connie Orlando, who is the EVP,
the Executive vice president of Specials, Music Programming and Music Strategy,
and her creative team who delivered an amazing twenty fifth
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anniversary show for BT.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
They did the one on sixth and Park Anniversary.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
During the show, I was in LA for the BT
Awards and it felt so good to hear that BT
is struggling in the space of award shows at all.
It's kind of disheartening because being at the BT Awards
this year, it felt like the old days, like big
stars were there, people dressed up, it was classy, it
was an event. It felt like a a night of
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regal and of like black excellence. So it made you
feel like, Okay, we're back, like the R Awards shows,
like you know, we didn't. Fully it's not like it
shut the whole world down, but for real, for real,
it did.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Like everybody was talking about the BT Awards.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Everybody was talking about how it looked, how it felt,
all the things. So he's saying, look, that show just
went down and it went amazing, So I want to
give her credit for that. But because this was one
of the best BT Awards, he says that he's ever seen.
So he's saying, the ecosystem has changed, and that is
probably one of the issues. But at the same time,
let's not just lean on that they did move the
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night of the show. Now, I'm gonna tell you guys something,
every year since I can remember, the BT Awards has
been on Sunday Night, which was it was a very
big deal that they moved it.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
But this was a huge year for the BT.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Awards, Like there was Kevin Hart hosted that, you had
Drew Ski and Kay Sanat doing live streaming from it.
There was just a lot that went down during the
BT Awards this year. But he is saying that in
twenty twenty six are going to move back to Sunday,
which I think makes sense because the BT Awards are
so all surrounded by the BT experience and people. It's
kind of like almost like Essence Festival. You know, Essence
Festival happens around four for July. It's like the Famer
(24:40):
of Reunion, you know, every year around what time your
family reunion's happening.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
With the BT Awards, it's the same thing with the timing.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
But also to one of the only reasons why I
wouldn't be mad about because again, we're talking about resources.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
We went from Gil.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
King, who is few of many black faces on you know,
morning daytime television cable network TV. We're talking about Kamala Harris,
who is one of one in her space, and just
resources in a fight that it is. And then we
get to BT in that conversation, which is crazy because
you know CBS and that whole big merger just happened,
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and you.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Talk about resources.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Scott Mills is I'm sure behind the scenes having to
have conversations about what does what does a Trump administration
CBS paramount merger, you know, look like because of all
the sky Dance stuff. He said in this interview that
he's not really worried about it, and he you know,
he's not gonna speak to that.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
But man, if I'm him, you have to look at
what's happening.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And if so, if you are looking at what's happening,
you're basically looking at the fact that, like all the edgy,
hard conversations for us by US.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Trump ain't gonna go for that for too long whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So what I was gonna just say is is like
when you're thinking about resources, if resources are thinning out
in certain spaces, I say, le's laser in and focused.
So instead of maybe you know, and this is just
this is just me thinking as a viewer and as
a concept producer.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
It's like, Okay, maybe we take the Whole Train.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Awards too digital and we make it something that is
a smaller vehicle, but we lean it in the Hip
Hop Awards, but we leaning even heavier to the BET
Awards and make that the thing right like that is
the big one, that is the one that's on TV,
you know, and everything else is a smaller vehicle, and
they all get like one hand shows the other, so
they all lead into each other. Maybe they do it
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that way. There just needs to be a connectivity of sorts.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I always say a bunch of things I know and
be like, I don't know, right, But things are just different, y'all.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
The media landscape right now is just different.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
My grandmother always says to me the world is gonna
come to an end soon, that Jesus is on his
way back. When anytime anything happens, like she go to
the grocery store and they don't got her water. My
grandmother buys deer Park. They don't got her deer Park water. Baby,
the ends of times is coming. I went to the
grocery store. It ain't got my waters no more. You
need to start saving your money. Y'all know how y'all
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grandma talk, Especially if your grandmother is a black woman.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
You know, y'all know how they talk.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
My grandmother has been telling me to prepare for the
end of times for the last ten years. I am
finally at the age and I don't know if it's
just because of everything that is happening, or if I
really do feel like this.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Maybe it's a mixture of the two.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I'm finally at the age when she calls me and say, baby,
it's the end of times.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I say, you know what.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You're right what you told me to do again instead
of just being like mo, mom, what are you talking about?
It's like the things that I'm watching happening right now.
I never it's like something out of a sitcom or movie.
I never thought that I would see, honestly, like from
our president and a lot of the things that are
happening with the administration. You know, people lose jobs every day, unfortunately,
but man, my friends in entertainment right now, BET did
(27:48):
major layoffs. I have friends in every creative industry from
music to fashion that like are just losing jobs left
and right.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
My old job, like where I used.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
To work TMZ, they did huge firings as well, and
I never thought that was happening. Shows were getting canceled
left and right when I was in that news room.
And one thing Harvey was always good about was ensuring
us that we would still be working because of the
vehicle and how it goes. And I mean, it's just
it's crazy to see it. It's crazy to see, it's
crazy to think about it. And again that's why I'm
(28:22):
like yo, I understand common of being like yo, I
don't want no parts of this take me on vacation,
read my book. I'll show up in the communities with
my chuck tailors on and my laugh and my he
he hah giggle. But baby, life is too short and
it's coming to an end anyway. Let's live our best lives.
This has been the latest with Laura l.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Roza.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
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Hey, y'all, it's Laura le Rosa and this is another
episode of the Latest with Lauren l Rosa. This is
your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, exclusives.
Sometimes we do the exclusives here and all of the
conversations that shake the room. Now in this episode of
the Latest, getting right on into some things, because we
(00:29):
got some places to go and some things to talk about.
We're gonna start off with more talk show news, talk show,
Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
And y'all know we cover everything here at the Latest.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm not like a heavy political politic conversation er conversation
or I don't know is that a word. Basically, I
don't always talk about politics here, and you guys know
that it's more like pop culture trending topics. But more
lately Trump been coming on over to our side, so
we've been talking about him here.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
On the Latest.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Last episode, we talked a bit about Donald Trump, because
not even a bit. We took the whole episode and
we talked about Donald Trump. In his spat with Charlemagne.
Now today I'm back again with another one. Because listen,
Trump is never scared. Okay, Trump is always out here
shooting his shot at all of the outraging and just
(01:21):
throwing the pot. So Trump tweeted out Gil's king career, sorry,
not tweeted. Let me get that right, because remember Trump,
he got taken off of X then when he came back,
he uses it. But like he really used. He really
uses his platform, truth social the most. So Trump posting
on truth Social. Gail King's career is over. She should
(01:42):
have stayed with her belief in Trump. She never had
the courage to do so. No talent, no ratings, no strengths.
And he posted this because he was actually reposting and
bringing light to a New York Post article. This New
York Post article was exclusive that the New York Post did,
and that actually drives earlier today where they're reporting based
(02:03):
on sources, that Gail King's career at CBS doing CBS
Mornings is looking murky. And the reason why they're saying
that this is happening, according to their source, is because
they're reporting that the higher ups at the network want
to move away from polarizing coverage. Basically, you know, coverage
that is too woke according to what you know, Trump
(02:26):
and the Trump followers esque will deem as woke.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So, for instance, one of.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The examples that they give here in the article is
that one of the winners from RuPaul's Drag Race was
on CBS Mornings with Gail King and the winner his
name is Bob the Drag Queen. Now, he was publicizing
his first novel, Harriet Tubman Live in concert, right, so
he came on the show to do so. According to
(02:54):
the New York Posts, the CBS Morning's website described the
book as a gender bending story where the historic icon
appears in modern day America to tell her story through
a hip hop album. Now, this is a story that
you know, was previously reported by the Post, but they're
just using it to insert it into this the show.
An example of what the network execs are trying to
get away from. So they point out this episode of
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the show because they have a quote and here from
another source of the New York Post does that alleges
that the source told the New York Post that the
audience of CBS Mornings does not want woke. They do
not like progressive and provocative bookings. Now we fast forward
to them pointing to Bob the drag Queen from RuPaul's
(03:37):
Jagged Race, who was on the show promoting a book
about Harriet Tubman and Harriet Tubman finding herself in modern
day time and just telling her story through hip hop.
So they're like, they're talking about things that we don't want.
We know that, you know, they are very even when
they do have political conversations and the guests that they
bring on these political conversations, and the guests do not
(03:58):
run away from being very vocal about how they feel
about President Trump, agreeing or not. And I'm sure this
source or whoever, anybody that's deeming CBS Mornings as a
woke platform would say that a lot of the guests
there are normally critical or President Trump. But you got
to see the pattern that's going on here right now
with Stephen Colbert in the Late Show. When that happened,
(04:19):
CBS pointed to money finances. They talk numbers with Gail
King here in this New York Post article, And again,
all of this stuff from the New York Post is sourced, okay,
so it's not directly coming from anyone a CBS declined
to comment to The New York Post when The New
York Post reached out on this article, although they did
(04:40):
comment on Stephen Colbert's cancelation of his show. The New
York Post points out in this article they alleged that
in the past three weeks, Gail King and her co
host lost between twenty percent and thirty percent of their
audience versus last year, and the advertiser coveted twenty five
to fifty four year old demographic according to Nielsen and
Nielsen for those of you guys who don't know, it's
(05:01):
just a site or it's a data base that is
supposed to be, you know, very accurate when collecting numbers
as far as ratings and people and counts.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
So they're pointing to a study by Nielsen.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
They do not say when this study was last updated,
but they do use it in this article, which again
came out earlier today.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It is August fifth, five.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
And then they go into mentioning that Gail King recently
signed an extension for between thirteen million dollars and fifteen
million dollars of her contract that runs through next May.
According to this well placed source that they're pinning this
whole report on Now. They also point out and like
I said, y'all are seeing a pattern here. They also
point out that that is the same month that CBS
(05:43):
plans to pull the plug on the Late Night Show
with Stephen Colbert. And then once this report comes out,
Donald Trump then goes over to Truth Social amplifies it,
and he says Gail King's career is over. She should
have stayed with her belief in Trump. She never had
the courage to do so. No talent, no ratings, no strength. Now,
(06:08):
Donald Trump has also come out about Kimmel. He tweeted
when Colbert's show was announced to have been canceled. He
has been very vocal against I mean, look, we just
talked about him having the conversation in the back and
forth that he had with Charlemagne because of Charlemage's apparents
on Fox News with Donald Trump's daughter in law Laura Trump.
(06:29):
You gotta see the pattern here. I don't even have
to say it. You see the pattern here. And I
think at this point for me, just in watching all
of this, I was telling a friend the other day
when all the Charlemagne stuff happened, and I've said this
to Charlemagne too, even prior to the Trump situation, Like,
you know, because breakfast Club, I don't know about any
(06:49):
other platform. I know about Breakfast Club because I worked there,
but because Breakfast Club has a variety of opinions, Like
we have conversations with Laura Trump, we have conversations with
people that might not agree with what I personally agree with,
Like I don't agree with a lot of the things,
the majority of the things, honestly, the whole lifestyle of
Donald Trump for the most part. But I'm never opposed
to have a conversation with people who are across the table.
(07:13):
I also feel like, and I agree with the sentiment
of the president is the president at the time, and
you just do whatever you can best to make sure
that that person in that office is, you know, being
the best face and ambassador for what it is that
the people need, no matter where do people sit on
whatever side of the table.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
But it's getting scared, it's getting real tricky out here.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And as a person in the media who you know,
y'all know me, like, I like to.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Lean toward truth.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
If I can't figure out who the source is or
source it myself or find it to be fact myself,
I don't like to touch it. I'm very careful about
certain things, but I think it's getting scared because it's like,
if you have an opinion at all, it seems like
that leans away from what our current administration believes should
be the conversation it should be done.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It gets tough out here for you.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And I will say, you know with Gail King even
having to tell somebody in the media space like, oh,
be careful about you having an honest opinion about something now.
Defamation and things of that nature are completely different because
legally there are certain things that you just can and
can't do when you are in this space, because your
audience is counting on you to be transparent, to be
(08:18):
as neutral as you can be, or to be able
to define when you're not doing certain things, like when
you're giving your opinion about something and you want it
to be known as your opinion, your audience trusts that
you will give your opinion in a way that they
know it's an opinion versus something that they know or
can take and repeat as facts.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Right, But just being able to say how you feel
and not agreeing being.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Something that makes you think, yo, will I have a
job again? It is getting so scary, and it seems
like it's such a pattern. It's like stories break about,
like ratings and show's not doing well, and then Donald
Trump comes and he amplifies those stories, and he has
something to say about what you're doing, how you're doing it,
you know, and listen, this is not new. I mean,
(09:06):
Donald Trump has always operated in the space as more
of like a celebrity in chief, so he's paying attention
to what's happening. He's responding to what's happening. But now
it's starting to result in things not being there anymore,
Stephen Colbert's show not being there anymore, joy read not
being on MSNBC anymore. Those things get scary a bit,
(09:26):
especially when you're sitting in my position. I'm like, yo,
not hello, I'm new here. Just begin building, Please don't
tear down everything. I need somewhere to be at, you
know what I mean. And I was watching Kamala Harris
she did speaking to Stephen Colbert. Kamala Harris is Stephen
Colbert's show, The Late Show, and it's her first interview
since losing the presidency. And now she has this new book,
(09:48):
One hundred and seven Days, which talks about the time
that she had to run for president.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
And it was a very good interview.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
It was an interview about everything from what she's been
doing now to where her plans are moving forward. And
the news had come out that she did not plan
to run for governor and that, you know, she had
this book coming out, and then she goes on Stephen
Colbert and she says this, I.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Believe, and I always believed that as fragile as our
democracy is, our systems would be strong enough to defend
our most fundamental principles. And I think right now that
they're not as strong as they need to be. And
(10:31):
I just don't want.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
To for now.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I don't want to go back in the system. I
want to travel the country. I want to listen to people.
I want to talk with people, and I don't want
it to be transactional where I'm asking for their vote. Now.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't agree with Kamala at all. I understand. I
think what she's trying to say. I think what she's
trying to say is that and I feel like it's
a cover up. To be honest with you, I'll get
to that. I think what she's trying to say is
that you don't have to be a president, a governor,
a mayor, you know, an elected official to be able
(11:04):
to go out in your community, touch people, work for change,
do things that affect people, do things that get changed,
do things that get people what they need.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And that's where she wants to live now. Like she doesn't.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
She's not running away from the smoke, but she's approaching
the smoke differently. You know, she's not tripping off and
not being an elected official and all of the things
that come with it. And she talked about, you know,
because when Steven Colbert opened interview, the first thing he
asked her was, you know, have you got some sleep?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
How are you? Let's take listen to her answer. It's
nice to see you again. It's great to be First
of all, you look rested. Yeah, I'm happy for you.
Thank you you doing wa Oh, I'm fine. I'll get
fenty arrest in June. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So they hear her say that, right, She's had some
time to reflect and I guess really put into you know,
and really prioritize what's important for her at this point
in her life, whether that's being with family, getting to
spend time with her husband, her nieces, who she talks
so much about and just not being in the eye
of all of the scrutiny. Like I'm thinking about Gail King,
(12:12):
I'm thinking about Joy read right, and I mean, Stephen
Colbert is unfortunate that his show is going off air,
especially because it doesn't make any sense and it feels
like censoring. But I'm thinking about these black women in
this space because I can identify with them. Of course
I can, because I'm a black woman in a media space.
I can identify with them a lot differently. And one
(12:34):
of the first things I thought about was, man like,
you have to deal with people caring about what you wear,
how you wear, what's your hair look like, what's your
makeup look like?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Are you overdressed? Are you underdressed?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
The body type, what language you use, what language you
don't use, are you smiling? Who are you standing next to?
Who's this man that you're seting next to? Are you
dating him? Are you like? There's so many things that
just women in general have to deal with it, especially
when you're in a spotlight. And then Black women who
aren't afraid to speak out when they feel a way
about something, when they don't agree with something, who aren't
afraid to stand next to presidential candidates and now on
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top of all the things that society and just people
in general, and I feel like, you know, talking about
being WHOA. I don't want to sound who either, because
that's not my thing. I just like to I just
like to say how I feel, and how I feel
right now is like Yo, it's so much other things
that you deal with on a day to day trying
to figure out life, career and all the things. And
(13:29):
don't get me wrong, I'm of course a lot younger
than Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris has had an amazing career.
She you know, is living her life. She's not complaining
about things. That's not what this that clip was. But
I'm just thinking about all of the microaggressions and just
the different silent battles that she's had to face and
(13:50):
will honestly continue to have to face for the rest
of her life. Because she's Kamala Harris, who was once
vice president and she's a black woman vice president and
she ran for the presidency and she did not win it,
and she would have been the first black woman president
and just all these things right that she's going to
have to answer and speak to and never be able
to get around for the rest of her life. That
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she then has to couple with everything that, like she
was just once you come out the wound and you
walk a baby, your first flick of the hair as
a black woman, you got to learn how to deal
with issue and society and the people. So then you
bring all this extra spotlight and you know, politics is
such a everything to be in and I just can't imagine.
So I understand where she's coming from, but I don't
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agree with her. I don't feel like I do feel
like everybody has a place in change, but I do
feel like there are certain people who get the privilege
or the honor to have, you know, elected official status,
and I don't think that those people should ever back
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away from trying. And it sounds to me like, and listen,
maybe I'm reading in between the lines here, y'all. Let
me know what y'all took from it. Get in the comments,
get outside, in the tweets, in the streets, let me know,
be outside, we outside, we outside.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Okay, every other page, I'm loring the roads everywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
How you guys felt, it sounded to me like as
well rested as she said that she was, and you know,
as much as she's probably been able to, you know,
prioritize and just think about what's important and what she
don't want to deal with no more in her life. Man,
I know that feeling in her life. I think that
there's a responsibility that you can't ever escape as a
black person. And I think that she sounds tired still,
(15:34):
Like she's tired. She sounds fed up, but she's making
it look good. She's making it sound good. And we
as black women do that all the time. Man, We
do that all the time, and we're so good at
it because for so so long, and you know, different generations,
like you're literally taught that, like you're taught to turn
the house into a home, you're taught to nurture, you're
taught to do so much that pours into other people
(15:56):
and other things.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
And when I just told y'all, like man.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I felt that, like she's probably just tired of the bullshit. Like,
if I'm being honest with y'all, I get it. But
I think we need her in the position, and I
think that I don't understand where her purpose goes from here.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
If I'm being honest with you, I think.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
That no matter how tired she might feel right now,
no matter what happened in that office, no matter you know,
I'm sure she's tided of being asked about why she
didn't tell the truth about President Biden and all the things.
No matter how much that is getting on your nerves.
Your purpose is your purpose, and I just don't see
her getting away from public service. I can't, and I
honestly think we need people like Kamala Harris in public service,
(16:36):
but we need people like Kamala Harris in a way
where Kamala Harris is able to be the person that
we watching these interviews.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Who yo.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
When Kamala Harris hat down with Oprah during her presidential campaign,
I was like, if she could be like this everywhere
she went, we good, especially in the White House. Like
we good because this is what we wanted from her
in the White House when we voted for Biden. I
voted for Biden because Kamala Harris was the VP on
the ticket and I thought that she'd be able to
keep things in check. I don't feel like she was
empowered the way that she should have been. And I mean,
(17:04):
people say, well, she's just vice president, but we all
know what the We know what it was given, we
know why we went so hard for Biden in that election,
and I really don't think she was empowered the way
that she should have. I felt like she was put
in the shadow of everything Biden nomics when she went
to run, and I feel like by her not being
able to come out and just really speak how she
(17:25):
wants to speak and do what she wants to do
and tell the truth and have to be loyal to
the Democratic Party, which again I'm not blaming her for it,
because as a black woman, I understand that, you know,
sometimes even going against the even when you want to
go up against the fire and stick it out, continue
to be in presidential offices and all these things and
all the things of the nature, you don't have the
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resources you're supposed to have to do so to be
able to actually do it where it's effective and it's
not just a freaking fight and mental tirade of like
you're breaking yourself down every single day. So I understand
her and I get where she's coming from, but I
don't agree that she can be as impactful now.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
She can have impact, don't get me wrong, And I'm not.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Taking away from what she'll do, because look, I'm not
out here public serving every single day, so people that are,
I feel like that's not even my place to kind
of like you're no critique or talk about as much.
But and just you know, for take of this conversation,
I think we need hers, Like she talked about having
people in certain places when it comes to this whole
(18:30):
government thing, this whole politic thing, I think we need
her inside of the system that she says she don't
want to be a part of. For a little minute,
we need her there for sure. And lastly, up in
the latest, I was reading a article on my way
over to film the show today because Scott Mills from
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BEET sat down with Billboard and I'm pulling up the
article right now. When we talk about resources, people always
have a conversation around BT and what BT does with
what they do well, what they don't do well, what
we need, what we should see, all of the things.
So Scott Mills has been doing some interviews. BT is
celebrating forty five years of the network and being one
(19:16):
of the leading black media platforms. So Scott Mills, the
CEO at BET, you know, sat down with Billboard to
talk about a pledge to continue to always be a
leading media platform for black people and four Black Things
and Black content. Now, during this interview, the journalist acts,
Scott Mills, can you confirm the chatter that two of
the annual shows and BT Awards franchise, the Soul Trained
(19:37):
and Hip Hop Awards, So Salt Train Awards and it's separately,
the BT Hip Hop Awards are no longer going to
be presented.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
So they're done? Are they done or not?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
And he says it's less about them being no longer
and more about our team having to reimagine them for
this changing media landscape that we find ourselves in. I
think that we're going to see more people taking franchises
and saying this might have started on linear television, but
now I'm gonna move it to another space. Do I
move it to streaming or do I make it another platform?
So for BT linear, we have suspended the Soul Train
(20:07):
and Hip Hop Awards. Show beet is announcing that they
have suspended the BT Hip Hop Awards and the BT
Soul trend of the wards. Y'all list is insane because
suspend it is suspended, like doesn't mean indefinite. But I
do think that there is something to having to take
it off of TV, to have to figure out what
to do with it, versus it being such a vehicle
(20:30):
and be built up enough where it stays on linear
until you make that transition just because you wanted to
move forward strong to match where we are right now,
which is what Scott Mills is saying. To me, this
sounds like a roundabout answer to say it's not doing
well on linear TV and we need to figure out
something else for it, because they are coveted shows and
something across digital is a lot easier to execute as
(20:52):
far as like you know, keeping something on linear, you
need certain numbers, you need advertising dollars, you need money,
You still want to need coins to produce an award
show on digital, don't get me wrong, But to have
it across linear TV, especially where it's taking up a
slot where advertisers might want to put something else or
might be asking for something that is reaching more people,
are a larger, stronger demographic, that is a big like
(21:16):
this is a big statement that Scott Mills is making now.
I will say I feel like what BT has done
with the NAACP Image Awards over the years, even like
last year, the show has gotten. Production is amazing, the
quality and that goes into the dollars that are being
put behind it.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I love to see the celebrities showing up for the
show as well.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Like the NAACP Image Awards have had some pretty big
shows these last couple of years now. The second question
the journalists followed up with was they asked about the
twenty twenty five BT Awards viewership dropped almost fifty percent
in the key demographic, which is eighteen to forty nine
demo from last year's show. Are there concerns about the
longevity of that long standing show, so, he said?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Scott Mills said, as yourship was down.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
However, the cable ecosystem is smaller today, and that's what
I'm saying by when he talking about taking Assault Train
Awards off of linear TV. That's why to me it's like, Okay,
this is saying something because it is very hard to
get something on linear TV today. And it's not because
people aren't watching. I mean, yes, less people are watching
live TV, people are watching things on streaming, people are
(22:24):
bulk watching things. You know, you have the Netflixes, Amazon Primes.
BT Plus was created, that's one of their vehicles because
people are streaming, but there are still pockets of television
where you do gather people and you get numbers. But
it's not as easy anymore because it's smaller. There's less
people watching, so you're fighting hard.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You're fighting very.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Very hard for that viewership, especially to maintain it year
to year to year to year. So he says, yeah,
that's just the reality of it. You know, the ecosystem
is way smaller today. But he says, you know, he
gave a shout out to Connie Orlando, who is the EVP,
the Executive vice president of Specials, Music Programming and Music Strategy,
and her creative team who delivered an amazing twenty fifth
(23:07):
anniversary show for BT.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
They did the one on sixth and Park Anniversary.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
During the show, I was in LA for the BT
Awards and it felt so good to hear that BT
is struggling in the space of award shows at all.
It's kind of disheartening because being at the BT Awards
this year, it felt like the old days, like big
stars were there, people dressed up, it was classy, it
was an event. It felt like a a night of
(23:32):
regal and of like black excellence. So it made you
feel like, Okay, we're back, like the R Awards shows,
like you know, we didn't. Fully it's not like it
shut the whole world down, but for real, for real,
it did.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Like everybody was talking about the BT Awards.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Everybody was talking about how it looked, how it felt,
all the things. So he's saying, look, that show just
went down and it went amazing, So I want to
give her credit for that. But because this was one
of the best BT Awards, he says that he's ever seen.
So he's saying, the ecosystem has changed, and that is
probably one of the issues. But at the same time,
let's not just lean on that they did move the
(24:06):
night of the show. Now, I'm gonna tell you guys something,
every year since I can remember, the BT Awards has
been on Sunday Night, which was it was a very
big deal that they moved it.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
But this was a huge year for the BT.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Awards, Like there was Kevin Hart hosted that, you had
Drew Ski and Kay Sanat doing live streaming from it.
There was just a lot that went down during the
BT Awards this year. But he is saying that in
twenty twenty six are going to move back to Sunday,
which I think makes sense because the BT Awards are
so all surrounded by the BT experience and people. It's
kind of like almost like Essence Festival. You know, Essence
Festival happens around four for July. It's like the Famer
(24:40):
of Reunion, you know, every year around what time your
family reunion's happening.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
With the BT Awards, it's the same thing with the timing.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
But also to one of the only reasons why I
wouldn't be mad about because again, we're talking about resources.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
We went from Gil.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
King, who is few of many black faces on you know,
morning daytime television cable network TV. We're talking about Kamala Harris,
who is one of one in her space, and just
resources in a fight that it is. And then we
get to BT in that conversation, which is crazy because
you know CBS and that whole big merger just happened,
(25:13):
and you.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Talk about resources.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Scott Mills is I'm sure behind the scenes having to
have conversations about what does what does a Trump administration
CBS paramount merger, you know, look like because of all
the sky Dance stuff. He said in this interview that
he's not really worried about it, and he you know,
he's not gonna speak to that.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
But man, if I'm him, you have to look at
what's happening.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And if so, if you are looking at what's happening,
you're basically looking at the fact that, like all the edgy,
hard conversations for us by US.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Trump ain't gonna go for that for too long whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So what I was gonna just say is is like
when you're thinking about resources, if resources are thinning out
in certain spaces, I say, le's laser in and focused.
So instead of maybe you know, and this is just
this is just me thinking as a viewer and as
a concept producer.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
It's like, Okay, maybe we take the Whole Train.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Awards too digital and we make it something that is
a smaller vehicle, but we lean it in the Hip
Hop Awards, but we leaning even heavier to the BET
Awards and make that the thing right like that is
the big one, that is the one that's on TV,
you know, and everything else is a smaller vehicle, and
they all get like one hand shows the other, so
they all lead into each other. Maybe they do it
(26:26):
that way. There just needs to be a connectivity of sorts.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I always say a bunch of things I know and
be like, I don't know, right, But things are just different, y'all.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
The media landscape right now is just different.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
My grandmother always says to me the world is gonna
come to an end soon, that Jesus is on his
way back. When anytime anything happens, like she go to
the grocery store and they don't got her water. My
grandmother buys deer Park. They don't got her deer Park water. Baby,
the ends of times is coming. I went to the
grocery store. It ain't got my waters no more. You
need to start saving your money. Y'all know how y'all
(26:59):
grandma talk, Especially if your grandmother is a black woman.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
You know, y'all know how they talk.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
My grandmother has been telling me to prepare for the
end of times for the last ten years. I am
finally at the age and I don't know if it's
just because of everything that is happening, or if I
really do feel like this.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Maybe it's a mixture of the two.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I'm finally at the age when she calls me and say, baby,
it's the end of times.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I say, you know what.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
You're right what you told me to do again instead
of just being like mo, mom, what are you talking about?
It's like the things that I'm watching happening right now.
I never it's like something out of a sitcom or movie.
I never thought that I would see, honestly, like from
our president and a lot of the things that are
happening with the administration. You know, people lose jobs every day, unfortunately,
but man, my friends in entertainment right now, BET did
(27:48):
major layoffs. I have friends in every creative industry from
music to fashion that like are just losing jobs left
and right.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
My old job, like where I used.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
To work TMZ, they did huge firings as well, and
I never thought that was happening. Shows were getting canceled
left and right when I was in that news room.
And one thing Harvey was always good about was ensuring
us that we would still be working because of the
vehicle and how it goes. And I mean, it's just
it's crazy to see it. It's crazy to see, it's
crazy to think about it. And again that's why I'm
(28:22):
like yo, I understand common of being like yo, I
don't want no parts of this take me on vacation,
read my book. I'll show up in the communities with
my chuck tailors on and my laugh and my he
he hah giggle. But baby, life is too short and
it's coming to an end anyway. Let's live our best lives.
This has been the latest with Laura l.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Roza.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I am Laura l Rosa. Thank you guys for tuning
in for another episode. Make sure you subscribe click the subscribe,
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Every single time an episode is uploaded, y'all ask me
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end of every episode that at the end of the day,
(29:03):
there's always so much to talk about, and you guys
could be anywhere with anybody as they talk about it.
But my lowriders all one million plus of y'all, I
think we add two million at this point.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Y'all are always right here with me to do it.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I appreciate you guys so much and I will see
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