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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Get junk.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Yeah the day time you get dunk yea day you are.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Doing to day?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hun, I'm a fat and all that shit around your eyes.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
They want this man to the top to make the
judgment of who was going to be on the donkey
of the day.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
They chose you. There's a braactice club.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Bitch you Who's donkey of the day today? Wow?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
At sharing donkey of today for Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Today's Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, don't get to day for Thursday.
June first goes to Stephen Schwartz, an attorney with a
firm called Levendale, Levendale and Oberman right here in New
York City. Now, this story warms my heart because I
keep telling y'all, AI is the devil, and I don't
like AI for a lot of reasons, and I hate
how people say things like.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
It's a necessary evil.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Evil should never be necessary, but the society we live
in is always willing to accept some evil, especially if
it puts money in people's pockets. With this story proving
one of my theories about AI correct, and that is
simply you can't trust it. And this attorney found out
the hard way when he used chat GPT to help
write a Manhattan Federal Court filing. Let's go to CBS
News for the report.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Please, even a lawyer with thirty years of experience can
learn something new about the law. For example, don't let
chat GPT do your legal research. Stephen Schwartz filed a
brief for a man who said he was injured by
a drinks cart on a flight operated by Avianca Airlines.
Schwartz's filing cited precedents like Martinez versus Delta Airlines. The
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problem was that while Delta Airlines does exist, the case
does not. Swartz admitted he relied on chat GPT, which
made up half a dozen bogus cases. Now the lawsuit
he was working on has been tossed and he faces
potential sanctions. The risks of ai I go far beyond
poor legal work. Industry leaders, including executives of three leading
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AI companies co signed a statement Tuesday warning the technology
could pose and existential threat to society.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Thirty years of experience, thirty years to build a reputation
in law, one day on chat GPT.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
To ruin it.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Okay, Steven Schwartze, you obviously are one of those people
that cheated their way through law school. All right, You
don't just start doing things like this because of the technology. No, no, no,
You've been doing this since at least high school. Probably
copied from folks so much you even signed the person
you was cheating off of his name.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
What kills me about this story is in the fact
that Steven used chat GTP. It's just that you didn't
do the number one thing we were all taught to
do in school and should apply in our everyday lives,
and that's check insight, our sources, check insight all work.
You have to proof read and read some more to
make sure you have everything in this paper correct. This
is why when people say things to me like AI
can never replace humans, You're gonna need a human to
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make sure AI is doing what it's supposed to do.
Do you realize how lazy homo sapms are, Okay, and
how much technology has made us even lazier.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
This whole world we lived in, this whole world we
live in, is designed for us to do as little
as possible. We want everything instant nowadays. We want everything
right here, right now. This lawyer used chat GPT simply
because he didn't want to do the work. And guess
what just another example that in life there is no shortcuts. Okay,
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It's simply not and we shouldn't want to give up
our critical thinking skills to chat GPT. Don't tell me
that chat GPT needs humans when humans are just willing
to relinquish all control to this artificial intelligence chatbot. Okay,
because that's what Steven Schwartz did, and he paid the price.
Imagine your lawyer is in court asking the court to
get your lawsuit toss. He's citing more than a half
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a dozen relevant cases and none of those cases exist,
completely made up by chat GPT, Stephen Schwartz. Why would
you not check in double check chat GPT's work to
see if the cases they used were actual cases. I
didn't go to college, Okay, I don't know how much
studying y'all do in law school, but I feel like
you would have heard a lot of these cases before,
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and some of them should just make you be a
little curious. For example, you heard the case titles Miller
versus United Airlines, Peterson versus Iran Air Heart versus Soul
Plane three six versus State Fly Air. Wouldn't you just
be a little bit curious about what some of those
things are.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Okay, I made those last two stories. But the moral
of the story is this.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
This is why the robots will win because humans are
relinquishing all trust to them, and honestly, the way that
things are currently going, people won't even care if the
cases are real. Soon as long as they sound good.
I can easily see a judge not knowing any better.
A jury definitely wouldn't know no better. Why would they
they not lawyers? What if a judge or someone in
the jerry goes home and pulls these fake cases up,
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reads them and applies them to the actual real case
that they will be trying. All right, They're gonna start
trying real cases based off president that's.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Not even real. Okay. I've told you all a million times.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
The lines of what's real and what's fake are already blurred.
AI obliterate those lines completely. Now. I would play a
game with guess what race it is? But it's obvious
Stevenswartz isn't black, right, because even though black people may
believe anything, we question everything. Okay, what's the first thing
we say when somebody tells us a story that seems.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
A little fishy? This don't sound right?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Okay, see this new generation, you'll operate a little different
because y'all believe everything on social media. But when you're
born in the nineteen hundreds, you are skeptical about everything.
I encourage you all to read the Fifth Agreement by
Don Miguel Ruise. Yes, I'm sure you've read the four agreements,
but there's a fifth agreement, and the fifth agreement is
be skeptical, but learn to listen. Okay, be skeptical because
most of what you hear isn't true. You know that
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humans speak with symbols, and that symbols are only the
truth because we agree, not because they are really the truth.
But the second half of the agreement is learn to listen.
And the reason is simple. When you learn to listen,
you understand the meaning of the symbols that people are using.
You understand their story, and the communication improves a lot.
That's going to be such a foreign concept. If y'all
just relinquish all control and power to chat GPT America,
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you better learn to be a skeptical about everything.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
As black people. Okay, our question everything. Learn to say
this don't sound right?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
All right, Black people from the nineteen hundreds, we say
things don't sound right when it's no sound involved. You
better get like us because the life and career you
save may be your own. Please let Remy mag give
Steven Schwartz the biggest he hull.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Hee ha he ha, you stupid motherfuck? Are you dumb?
All right?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Well, thank you for that donkey today, Yes, indeed, and
shout to b E T. We'll see you guys tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
That don't sound right, Well you sure we're gonna be
here tomorrow on BT to Mar's Friday.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
What's wrong?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Just making sure be skeptical but learn to listen.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Oh shut up, BT, we'll see out tom all piece.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Everybody else that's open up the phone lines eight hundred
five eighty five, one oh five to one.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
What do you think of a.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I not alan ivison, niggas intelligence artificial intelligence?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Right, because if you think about it, if you're attorney,
you're thinking, you know, I could save a little money
instead of having you know, interns and employees. I type
it in chat GT Jack whatever it's called, and it
pulls up all the other cases. Now he should have
googled to see if those cases were there. But it
seems like you know something a little easy that that
can help you and.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Now thirty years of experience down the dream, your reputation
down the dream because you decided to go on chat
GPT one time, all people questioning everything about you.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Also, AI is saying, you know, in some vehicles, if
they have AI and vehicles, you know, sometimes people fall asleep.
They have all these different minduct now right, but that's
AIL driving cars, right, But it's not too many cars.
I know Tesla has one. They're starting to have it
in eighteen wheelers. Now escalades escalades having but not to
an extent. You have to touch the steering wheel at
a certain time. You just can't sit back.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I don't know. I don't have one of those. I
can't afford that type of stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Okay, whatever, But we're asking what's your thought on AI
because it could be dangerous.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Just imagine just I don't even put that out there.
Let me think of another thing. Just think about you
get into a beef.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
No, no, think about you getting the beef you donte
get and all the beef I throw the point at me.
Think about you get to because I think about you
getting the beat.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Because somebody can use somebody because pride to.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
By the way, don't be talking about beef unless you
want to do something.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Perfect.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Example, let's say that somebody wants to say Charlemagne is gay, right,
what you can little gay gang. But now somebody can
use Charlomagne's voice and make a fake conversation with Charlomagne's
Well know that it's somebody else, and people will believe it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I've hard for you not to say it wasn't true.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Let's go even deeper.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Imagine you hear your best friend and your wife a
conversation between them two talking about getting it in and
all kinds of stuff, and the conversation not even real, right,
and then and and you're about to go see both
of them in the next five minutes. You might be
driving on the way that you'll about to meet somewhere,
and y'all meet, and you just heard.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
This call and you do something stupid and you realize that.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
It was what I was trying to say.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Man, So what's your thoughts on AI? Let's talk about it.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
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