June 18, 2025 • 30 mins
Loren is back talking about productivity before the Holiday so Juneteenth can be for Celebrating Blackness. Also, Joshua and Jodie’s custody battle brings up some important discussions around raising interracial kids as well as communicating healthily through divorce. Jamie Fox caps it off with a unique discussion around celebrity and social media.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
George. I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about
everything and everybody. You don't know if you don't lie about that,
right Lauren ca Hey, guys, it's Lauren la Rosa and
this is another episode of the Latest with Lauren l Rosa.
I'm your homegirl that knows a bit about everything and everybody.
And this is Yelly Dig on all things pop culture, entertainment,
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news and the conversations that shake the room. Lowriders, you know,
I'm your host. I'm Laura la Rosa and checking in
behind the scenes of the Grime. Today. I am feeling productive.
I'm getting a lot done today. It is midweek, you
guys know, heading into a holiday Juneteenth, there's always anticipation
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because you don't have to work, You get to, you know,
spend time with your family, spend time doing things that
you typically don't have time to do during the week.
So for me, I was like, Okay, being at this
holiday is in the middle of the week. I want
to try and get as much done as I can
prior to the holiday so I can actually spend the
holiday like a holiday. Yes, y'all know me. So I
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will still be working, we will still have podcasts, episodes,
all the things right, but the full bulk of feeling
like my day is dedicated so much to other people
and work, work, work, work, work, work, work is not
what I want to be doing on Juneteenth. I want
to be celebrating, you know, being black, being you know,
all things black, girl, You know what I mean. Just honestly,
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it's taking the time to just decompress and celebrate. Like
Juneteenth has become such a holiday since the world decided
to act like black people are the shit, because we
have been and y'all not don't customer podcast, but I
feel that Customer it was necessary, but it has become
such a holiday. When I was living in LA every
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year for Juneteenth, we would go to the huge black
party barbeque that they do in LA but in Englewood.
But since being in New York, I feel like I
haven't had the chance to actually celebrate Juneteenth, which I
really tried to prioritize to do because it just feels good,
you outside, you with your people. You got the music plan.
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For some reason, every time I think about Juneteenth, I
think about the song Sounds of Uh, Sounds of Blackness.
The as long as you key that song y'all know
that song. Hopefully y'all know that song. If you do
not know that song, let me look it up. I
want y'all to know that song because that is my
June teenth themed song. And I don't know if that's
like very cliche, I honestly don't care, because that is
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my song. That is my go to for Juneteenth. What
is it's called? Oh? Yes, it's Sounds of Blackness by Optimistic. Yes,
Sounds of Blackness by Optimistic is my Juneteenth go to song.
That end I'm Black, y'all. I'm black, y'all, and you
just wake up, you go to the cookout, see everywhere
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you go. It's just I mean, every day it's a
celebration of being who you are and being black. But Juneteenth,
it just feels like the whole world is stopping to
do it. So I've been getting a lot of things done,
been very disciplined about getting things done by a certain time,
getting my sleeping, being prepared for all the things. So
I'm feeling good. If you guys cannot tell, I'm I
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feel like I sound like things are organized and they're
flowing as well too. So I hope y'all are feeling
well out there as well, and y'all know, now we
got to get into the latest. So I saw this
story and I thought that it was really really interesting.
I honestly, I was like, man, I wish more people
were were, you know, diving into this conversation. So it's
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been reported by US Weekly, The Grio in Essence magazine
that actress Jody Turner Smith has pinned a letter to
her ex husband Joshua Jackson, who was also an actor,
and this letter is a letter that comes in the
midst of their custody battle. Now, for those who are
not familiar with Jody Turnersmith, you guys will know her,
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probably most notably from Queen Islim. Joshua Jackson also an actor.
I watched him in the affair, but I know a
lot of people will also know him from Dawson's Creek
as well Ani Mighty Ducks. So they were married, they
were married for some time. They actually got a divorce
and their divorce was finalized back in May of twenty
twenty five. But you know, their custody battle, their battle
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in the midst of this, even though their divorce is finalized,
has been one that has made news headlines, which is
why I was so confused when I saw this letter
that didn't pick up. More not that I care that
it didn't pick up, because that's what I love about
the podcast is that we can dive into conversations that
other people might not be having. But I was just
very surprised because everything with their divorce has been so
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like people pick it up like insanely, because that's how
it was about their relationship as well. Two. So she
following their divorce in May of twenty twenty five, it
was decided that their divorce would break down to Joshua
Jackson paying twenty seven hundred and eighty seven dollars a
month in child support, and then there was a lump
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sum of spousal support that was paid out as well.
But within the last month, there's been reports of Joshua
Jackson and Jody Turner Smith going back and forth about
things like their daughter and their daughter is young. Their
daughter is five years old, well someplace to report she's four,
but someplace to report she's five, but she's young. Their
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daughter is under nine years old, and they've been going
back and forth about where she's going to go to
school and just what custody looks like between the two
of them, because they're both really involved parents. So Jody
Smith Turner's letter is about the role of a mother
in a child's life, especially a girl, a young girl,
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especially when you're dealing with two parents who are now separated.
More specific she's talking about the role of a black
mother in a biracial child's life. It's specially a biracial daughter.
So the letter starts, Hi, Josh, thank you for your message.
I appreciate your recognition of how fluid the production timeline
can be. Your willingness to accommodate the fluidity truly makes
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a difference. And when she talks about production timeline, she's
talking about a show that she's shooting. So then she
goes on, I'm also so glad that we agree that
our share goals to provide Juno with as much stability, consistency,
and meaningful time with both of us as possible. I
hear and appreciate your point that that is ultimately her
time with each of us, and not the other way around.
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The framing feels very important. This arrangement allows Juno to
enjoy a true sense of continuity and presence, something we
both value. She's excited about our travel plans, and I
believe this stretch of time will allow her to feel
deeply grounded and connected during a season that's naturally more
open and flexible. Now again, I mentioned that all of
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this that's happening in the midst of them having these
like custody conversations, right and more recently, when it was
about a month ago when reports came out that they
were having issues over determining a schooling determination between the
two of them and then the custody. The conversation with
custody was about their daughter, Juno's summer schedule and like
where she would spend her time summer, how that time
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would be broken down in what she would be doing. So,
Jody continues, I want to raise the subject as something
that has been weighing heavily on me, and it's grounded
not just an instinct or emotion, but in widely established research.
Before Juno was born, you and I spoke at length
about what she would need to grow into a strong,
self assured young person. Central to those conversations was the
importance of the maternal bond, and more specifically, the critical
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role that being close to her black mother would play
in shaping her identity and self esteem. Research consistently shows
that for biracial children, particularly with a black mother, that
connection is not periphial. It is foundational. It plays a
vital role in identity formation, emotional resilience, in a long
term physical well being. These aren't abstract ideas, They've lived
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daily realities that you know is already beginning to experience
in the consistency of our time together, especially when school
is out in their space for deeper connection is one
of the most effective ways to support her through them.
The vision we once shared hasn't changed, and it begins
here and ensuring that Juno is not only protected, but affirmed,
reflected and deeply rooted in who she is. So I
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want to talk a bit before we get into you know,
just where you know, opinion on this letter and all
the things. I want to talk a bit about the
custody conversation that I brought up. So according to reports,
and actually TMC is the one who broke the story,
there were legal documents that were filed back in May
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of twenty twenty five. It was actually May third, so
it was right before single de Maya of this year,
and in the Joshua and Joshua Jackson and Jody were
figuring out more of the divorce settlement, but specifically they
had to use a mediator to come up with a
temporary schedule to figure out what the fifty to fifty
custodyould look like with their daughter. Now here's what they
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can't agree on. So they agreed where Juna is going
to go to school eventually, Like they got to that
agreement right, And that was a part of the reports
is that that was one of the things that they
could not figure out. So in this most recent filing
they were able to agree on that. And then after that,
Jody was asking for a judge to force Joshua to
adhere to a core order that gives her the power
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to pick elementary school. So it's more so about where
she's going to go to school next. And the issue
is that Jody is basically asking for their daughter Juno
to go to a new school next year. But she
says that Joshua Jackson is not having that, like he's
sitting it in a way that now she says that
she's researched his new school. She talked about it with
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Joshua Jackson and made sure it was close enough to
his home as well, but he's refusing to get on board.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
So that's the school situation. So baby girls in school,
the school she's that currently is fine. It's about where
she's going next. As far as the summer schedule, Joby
Turner is as she's wanting to spend five weeks with
her daughter in Europe, which she said will allow their
daughter Juno to enjoy a true sense of continuity and presence,
which is what I was referencing, something that they both value.
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But Joshua Jackson is pushing back against this because he's
saying it would leave him without seeing his daughter for
at least a month. Now. Jody is also asking that
their daughter, do you know, you know, within these travel plans,
be able to stay with her and Morocco while she's
working there. That is the production schedule they were referencing.
But Joshua is standing. He sentos down with saying we
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need to have a meaningful conversation about this because any
travel arrangements involving their daughter, including the location, the schedule,
and all these things. He wants to have a conversation
about it before he makes actual decisions. And Jody has
actually said to him as well, like, look, I know
it's summertime, so if you have a specific travel plans
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or you know anything that you want to do, just
let me know so that we can talk about it
ahead of time. But I do want you to talk
to me about it before you take it to our daughter,
because you know, it's like once you tell a kid something,
and she says this, and Jody Turner says this in
her documents that she followed. She says, you know, once
you tell a kid something, then it causes confusion and
it causes disappointment, and I don't want that. Now I'm listen,
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I understand Jody's point, you know, Jody Turner, I understand
her point right, because look, I'm not biracial. Both my
parents are black, I mean, as you guys can tell.
But I hope she doesn't mind me telling the story.
She knows who I'm talking about. She's listening to the podcast.
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But I have a biracial friend who I got really
really close to when I was living in LA And
until I got close to her, I didn't even understand,
nor did I think that there was a like a
struggle or a world of things that biracial children went through.
I remember one time we were in a grocery store
and we were leaving a grocery store and we pulled
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out of the grocery store and there was a woman
who was pulling in to take our spot, and then
there was another car waiting behind us. And the way
that we backed up, the woman wasn't able to get
into the spot, so the car behind us was able
to pull in. So as we're going around the woman
and it's a white woman, she yells the N word
out of the window, and oh my god, it picked
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like I mean, I was like, whatever, old white lady. Whatever.
It pissed my friend off so bad, and I was like, Yo,
why do you care so much about this woman that
you don't even know, you know what I mean? Like
we're in the car, you don't know this woman. Obviously
she's not about the parking space. She's gonna say anything
you make you mad. I've learned to just let ignorant
people be ignorant because I've dealt with it, and I
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know who I am, so I know I'm not the
N word with an r er, you know what I mean.
I know I'm an educated, beautiful black woman. Like it's
different but when I say it pissed her off, It
pissed her off to the point where we had to
pull over for her to gather herself and get herself together.
Like she was crying, she was emotional. It was a
whole thing. And as I'm talking to her, I'm realizing, like, wow,
like her identity of self when it comes to her
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as a black woman, because she has a black parent
and a white parent, it's not as strong like anything
can kind of shake her. And it's because she grew
up not as close to her black side of her family.
So the black identity that she did have and that
she gained from friends in school and community, whenever that
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was like tested or questioned, no matter how big or
how small the way that it would throw her off.
I'd never experienced anything like it. And I think, and
not even think once we begin to talk about it more,
I'm like, Yo, why did that bother I get it,
it's racial, and anybody hearing that is going to bother them.
But it's sad to say, but it's like, I mean,
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letting ignorant people be ignorant is just a thing that
I've It's kind of like not a coping mechanism. But
it's just one of those things. It's things. It's like
the same way when I walk into a store, my
first thing is, let me not bring big bags in here,
because I don't want them to think I'm stealing. Whereas
another person who don't look like me or who is
white passing does not have to think about that type
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of stuff. It's just something that I know to do.
So for me, let ignorant people be ignorantless it's right
in my face, and I you know what I mean,
Like that's different. But we're in a car, we're pulling
off like it's whatever. But in talking to her, what
I learned and what I realized was that anytime her
black side, if anything, was questioned, she wasn't sure about
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it enough to stay in firm. And I'm gonna just
let ignorant people be ignorant because I know that's not
how I identify. She couldn't stand in that because it
wasn't instilled in her from her black side of her family.
So she's never fully been able to like identify with that.
And the closest thing in proximity she has to identifying
with it is what she's taught herself. It didn't come
from a place of love or from people who love her,
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and not even from people who love her because you know,
as her friend, I love her like that type of thing,
but not from her mother or like, you know, someone
that's more like the maternal or nurturing in her life.
So it just her experience in walking through the world
was so different, and she was always not black enough
for the black kids, not white enough for the white kids. Right,
So she's always been trying to figure out where the
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identity lied and what she identified with the most, right
which words, which was her black side because of her
friends and her school she went to and all those things.
She had an adopted mom who raised her, who was
also black. But again, it's different. It's not your it's
not your natural like it's not your your mom who
birth you. So there's just all these questions that she's
trying to figure out. I tell you guys this story
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to say that I realized in that moment and being
friends with her and in that particular moment, that there
was just something different about being raised to know that
as a black person in this world, or as a
black specifically a black woman in this world, to know
your brilliance and to know your uh just your wholeness
and where that comes from, like who teaches it to
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you and how you get to know it. It's such
an important thing and it's it's an everyday thing in
a black household, and it's something that we don't even
think twice about as we're raising children or you know,
me being the child of a mother who was black.
But when I begin having conversations with my biracial friend
and I began to realize that, like she didn't have
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that study like to stand on two feet about that
it was and it was because of what she lacked
in her upbringing. When I read this letter, and this
letter is a couple of days old as well, so
it's been out, you know, not this letter, but the
letter that was included in the filing is a couple
days old, so it's been out. When I read it,
I'm like, man, I can really like I hear her
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and I understand her now whether or not Joshua Jackson
will understand her, because at the end of the day,
no matter how much you know, empathy a person that
is not black has for us and what we need
and how we need to be poured into in order
to navigate in the world. No matter how much of
that you have, it's still different being a black man
raising a black child with a black woman versus being
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a white man raising a child with a black woman.
So whether he's gonna fully understand that or not, it's
one thing. And I you know, we'll see how this
plays out. And I think that it is so evolved
for you know, even though their relationship didn't work out,
for them to even be having those conversations, because it
is a real thing. Wishing him the best we will,
you know, I'll say a breast to you know, the
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filings and kind of what happens and where they land,
because it seems like he's not being just hard about
her request for no reason. It's just a it's a
parental thing. It's like a hey, I understand all of that,
but I'm her father too. He even says in one
of the documents that he says, I don't think that
on location tutoring can APPROXI the importance of what Juno
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has received by attending school and being in a consistent
peer environment this year, her social and emotional development, and
her academic achievement this year have been truly extraordinary. And
this is him responding and basically saying, like, you know,
as she's traveling, like, yes, it's amazing, she'll get to
learn these things, she'll get to be with you. But
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as school finishes and we want to you know, nurture her,
you know, socially and academically, still throughout the summer, as
she prepares to go back into school, traveling and you know,
not having you know, that peer to peer consistency, it
could interfere and tutoring is different than being in school
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and being with her friends and all those things. Like
it seems like, you know, they're trying to accommodate for
the lives that they live at celebrities. But he's also
reminding Jody, like there is a level of consistency and
in normal normalcy that you want to provide for a
child as well too. Let me know, So I think
about the conversation. I think that it's definitely one worth having,
especially as we go into junetieth celebrating all of you know,
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the blackness and all these things. And that's so ironic.
I didn't even tie the two together when I was
prepping this, but it's ironic how they both tied together
talking about celebrating Juneteenth and everything that is your blackness
that day and every day, but that day specifically. And
then this story now as we head on out of here,
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in the latest, we have Jamie Fox. Jamie Fox sat
down for this really interesting interview with BET. He was
honored at BET. He received an icon of ward for
his legacy, his career, all of the things during the
twenty twenty five be ET Awards, which was amazing to see.
You guys knew I was in LA for the award show,
but there was an interview that released. I watched the
interview yesterday and it was such a great interview. Jamie
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Fox talked about everything from you know who taught him.
He talked about Harry Bellefonte teaching him how to be
a black man and what that responsibility look like. He
talked about do you even have to have responsibility as
a black person or as a black entertainer. He talked about,
you know, just his abilities and doing the things that
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he's able to do, and his career and you know,
all all of the things. But he brought up one
thing that I thought was very interesting. He talked about
social media and just being famous right now and how
it is so different than when he got started and
what he wished for.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I tell people all the time this is be careful
what you wish for, because I'm a gregarious dude and
I just want to have fun. And sometimes people will
take advantage of that, especially in today's world now, where
you know you gotta be careful. Everything is looked at,
everything is scrutinized. So I do a thing in my
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new stand up I'm going out on a new stand
up call of Victory lap Yeah on Hulu, But I
talked about how fame is not necessarily fun anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Back in the day, fame.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Was cool yourself, but now you know, it's kind of
it's tough, you know. And what's crazy is everything that
you're doing could be negated in one post.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
This conversation was unique coming from a Jamie Fox because
Jamie Fox is a part of that celebrity group who
he still remembers what it was like to be famous
pre social media, but he is a huge celebrity, so
he can't escape life post social media either. When Jamie
Fox was going through his health battle, I remember being
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at TMZ and you know, one of the things that
you learned in the newsroom about developing exclusives and working
on stories is do you always find an angle in?
Whenever you blocked out one way, you find the angle
in another way. And I've worked on many stories from
TMZ to now in my career with the Breakfast Club,
and you know, in trying to find angles and find
ways into a bit less invasive at the Breakfast Club,
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thank god, but in trying to find my way into
these different stories, I still come up on roadblocks where
I'm like, Okay, what's another way in? Can I you know,
if the turney don't want to talk, what about the publicist,
what about the manager, what about the whatever. Jamie Fox
when he was going through his healthcare, when I tell y'all,
we couldn't find no way in. We did like everything
was shut down. His family did a really good job
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of protecting him through that and making sure that not
too much slipped. There were certain things that still got out,
but they controlled the narrative. We didn't see him like
they controlled as much as they could so well in
a social media time with a name like Jamie Fox,
who comes from the real era of celebrities, y'all know
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how hard that is. So to hear him talk about
just you know, thinking of fame one way, wishing for
fame one way, getting it, and then it being so
different than what you experienced, especially now with social media,
I was like, why, that's very ironic because in all
of my career, working the story and reporting the story
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of Jamie Fox and what he was going through in
his healthcare was probably one of the toughest stories that
we worked on. Number one, because it's Jamie Fox and
he so beloved and we just didn't know what was
happening and you want him to be okay. But also
they did his family hold it down? We couldn't get
there was nothing, nothing leaking on social nothing. So I'm like,
you know, for him to complain about it, I'm like, man,
it seems like y'all got it on lock over there,
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Like y'all y'all got a downpack over there, Jamie Fox.
Though I'm not even gonna lie y'all definitely do. I've
experienced it firsthand, But I think there is a point
to what he's talking about. Though. It's like, even when
he mentioned the you know, like one post and everything
you've worked for, it could just be negated, like one
post on social media and the court of public opinion
can cause a downfall of so many different things. That
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is like the scariest part of a lot of the
things that I'm experiencing today and in this time. And
I look at you know, people like Jamie Fox, and
you know, Gabrielle Union to rah gp Henson and you
know all of these major Oh my god, Kerry Washington.
There's so many major names that I look to. I
think in Hathaway does a really good job of being
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present on social media, but you know, you won't really
know too much of her business. Like, there are a
lot of celebrities that I look at and I'm like,
they do a really good job of still remaining that
mystique of I'm a celebrity, you can't know everything, and
I'm not going to give you everything, but still using
social media to a point where you feel connected with them.
Kerry Washington owned Twitter during the scandal days, but we
knew nothing about her personal life until she told us
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those type of uh, you know, celebrities in that age
of celebrity, it's like the younger the celebrities get, the
more the that dies out. It just it's disappearing, and
it's nerve racking a bit, especially as like things are
growing for me myself. But it's also nerve racking a
bit too because it causes a like a whole genre
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of media and conversation and just noise of people who
will do and say anything, and then it's hard to
negate through that because there's not a lot of people
out here doing the due diligence. I was literally just
talking about this the other day for what I do,
not even just here on the podcast, but for breakfast Club,
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Like you know, waking up in the morning, I'm looking
through stories trying to figure out what to talk about.
A lot of times I'm trying to develop my own
news on my own angles in as I just mentioned exclusives.
But when I don't have that, sometimes it's like, Okay,
let me see what the world is talking about. And
I've been feeling like over these last couple of weeks, like, man,
so much of this stuff is noise. I'm scared to
even report certain things, even if valid dot coms are
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reporting it, because things are just so things are just
so misconstrued, like people can paint any narrative they want. Nowadays,
because of social media and then it makes a dot
com or it makes a news report and that is
so scary and it's just getting worse. So to know
that it's still fat affecting someone as big as a
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Jamie Fox, I'm like, man, he's like Jamie Fox is
like pinnacle entertainer. It's not about being a black entertainer.
He is pinnacle entertainer. Like every there's nowhere you go
that is not going to know a Jimmie Fox and
he's still being affected by it. I'm like, it's over
for the rest of us. We ain't got a shot
in ht double hockey sticks. If Jamie Fox is feeling
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like this, it's like, man, what do I have to
look forward to? Well, speaking of social media, I'm gonna
take you guys outside to the tweets. We outside, we outside,
we outside in the streets. I tweeted something and when
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I tell you, all the people are in my mentions
going crazy like go and saying, so I want to
get y'all take on it, right, Okay, So I retweeted this,
uh this tweet. It says tr or Gez, who had
a better first five album run, So they've got TI's serious.
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Tis Trap Music, TI self titled album, TI TI King,
and then TI versus Tip Verse five TI albums. Then
you got GZ. So you have Young g Z. Let's
get it, thug motivation one on one, Young GZ the inspiration,
Young GZ the recession, Young g Z, Thug motivation won
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on three Hustles, Ambition, and Young g Z seen it
all the autobiography. Now, I said GZ, And granted, it's
hard anytime you talk about GZ and TI and a conversation,
especially comparing it too, but just in general, like anytime
people bring them up in a competitive way, I think
people are always so competitive because these are two artists
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who literally changed the face of trap music and everything
that they've touched, like they've culturally influenced and left a
mark in a way that like you're gonna feel so
tied to the change that you felt when they when
they were doing when they were really in the crevices
of doing their thing right. So I get it. But
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for me, I don't know, I felt like, and I'm
not this is not me saying that t I's first
five albums wasn't a run. That's not what I'm saying.
I just think that Gz's was a better first five
album Run. Now, I want to know what y'all think,
because the people online they're like, what so uh. Someone
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said I'm gonna have to roll with young jeez Tip
set it up though, then another one said, Lauren, how
old are you? Where were you back in these days?
Because you wasn't really outside I could tell by your choice.
I was like, WHOA. Then someone else said, I'm gonna
choose both, but Tip hands down, and then somebody agreed
with Oh, somebody just said, you bugging out cash to
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for S one on X edge, you bugging out will
all due respect, I gotta respond that album because that
one's kind of funny. Let me know what y'all think, though,
So this is more about what I want you guys
to get on my X account. I'm Lauren la Rosa
on X my post t I g Z who had
the better first album first five album run. Let me
know what y'all think, because I'm not even arguing back
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with the people. I feel that way because I feel
like Gez's song like when you talk about full bodies
of work all the way through. And again, I'm not
taking away from t I. I think it's just a
personal choice. I just personally, I can name you multiple
songs off multiple want multiple up, multiple of these albums.
Is that is that how you think it sends? Te
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don't even know how to talk. That's like you know
the episode is indre. I can name you multiple songs
from multiple of these albums because I was maybe too.
I may maybe I'm just a bigger GZ fan, y'all.
Let me know what y'all think. I think it's a
personal choice, personal opinion. I think both of them were
very influential. I think their you know, first few album run,
Like I said, it changed the way that we even
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talk about track music, music from the South. I think
they both have done things that you're never gonna forget,
Sounds that you're never gonna forget, hooks, bars that you're
never gonna forget. But personally, it's jeezy for me. What's
y'all thing? Let me know. At the end of the day,
there is always a lot to talk about. You guys
could be anywhere with anybody talking about it, but you
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choose to be right here with me, and I appreciate
you guys for that. I'm Laura mo Rosa. I will
see you guys at my next episode.
George. I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about
everything and everybody. You don't know if you don't lie about that,
right Lauren ca Hey, guys, it's Lauren la Rosa and
this is another episode of the Latest with Lauren l Rosa.
I'm your homegirl that knows a bit about everything and everybody.
And this is Yelly Dig on all things pop culture, entertainment,
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news and the conversations that shake the room. Lowriders, you know,
I'm your host. I'm Laura la Rosa and checking in
behind the scenes of the Grime. Today. I am feeling productive.
I'm getting a lot done today. It is midweek, you
guys know, heading into a holiday Juneteenth, there's always anticipation
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because you don't have to work, You get to, you know,
spend time with your family, spend time doing things that
you typically don't have time to do during the week.
So for me, I was like, Okay, being at this
holiday is in the middle of the week. I want
to try and get as much done as I can
prior to the holiday so I can actually spend the
holiday like a holiday. Yes, y'all know me. So I
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will still be working, we will still have podcasts, episodes,
all the things right, but the full bulk of feeling
like my day is dedicated so much to other people
and work, work, work, work, work, work, work is not
what I want to be doing on Juneteenth. I want
to be celebrating, you know, being black, being you know,
all things black, girl, You know what I mean. Just honestly,
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it's taking the time to just decompress and celebrate. Like
Juneteenth has become such a holiday since the world decided
to act like black people are the shit, because we
have been and y'all not don't customer podcast, but I
feel that Customer it was necessary, but it has become
such a holiday. When I was living in LA every
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year for Juneteenth, we would go to the huge black
party barbeque that they do in LA but in Englewood.
But since being in New York, I feel like I
haven't had the chance to actually celebrate Juneteenth, which I
really tried to prioritize to do because it just feels good,
you outside, you with your people. You got the music plan.
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For some reason, every time I think about Juneteenth, I
think about the song Sounds of Uh, Sounds of Blackness.
The as long as you key that song y'all know
that song. Hopefully y'all know that song. If you do
not know that song, let me look it up. I
want y'all to know that song because that is my
June teenth themed song. And I don't know if that's
like very cliche, I honestly don't care, because that is
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my song. That is my go to for Juneteenth. What
is it's called? Oh? Yes, it's Sounds of Blackness by Optimistic. Yes,
Sounds of Blackness by Optimistic is my Juneteenth go to song.
That end I'm Black, y'all. I'm black, y'all, and you
just wake up, you go to the cookout, see everywhere
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you go. It's just I mean, every day it's a
celebration of being who you are and being black. But Juneteenth,
it just feels like the whole world is stopping to
do it. So I've been getting a lot of things done,
been very disciplined about getting things done by a certain time,
getting my sleeping, being prepared for all the things. So
I'm feeling good. If you guys cannot tell, I'm I
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feel like I sound like things are organized and they're
flowing as well too. So I hope y'all are feeling
well out there as well, and y'all know, now we
got to get into the latest. So I saw this
story and I thought that it was really really interesting.
I honestly, I was like, man, I wish more people
were were, you know, diving into this conversation. So it's
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been reported by US Weekly, The Grio in Essence magazine
that actress Jody Turner Smith has pinned a letter to
her ex husband Joshua Jackson, who was also an actor,
and this letter is a letter that comes in the
midst of their custody battle. Now, for those who are
not familiar with Jody Turnersmith, you guys will know her,
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probably most notably from Queen Islim. Joshua Jackson also an actor.
I watched him in the affair, but I know a
lot of people will also know him from Dawson's Creek
as well Ani Mighty Ducks. So they were married, they
were married for some time. They actually got a divorce
and their divorce was finalized back in May of twenty
twenty five. But you know, their custody battle, their battle
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in the midst of this, even though their divorce is finalized,
has been one that has made news headlines, which is
why I was so confused when I saw this letter
that didn't pick up. More not that I care that
it didn't pick up, because that's what I love about
the podcast is that we can dive into conversations that
other people might not be having. But I was just
very surprised because everything with their divorce has been so
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like people pick it up like insanely, because that's how
it was about their relationship as well. Two. So she
following their divorce in May of twenty twenty five, it
was decided that their divorce would break down to Joshua
Jackson paying twenty seven hundred and eighty seven dollars a
month in child support, and then there was a lump
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sum of spousal support that was paid out as well.
But within the last month, there's been reports of Joshua
Jackson and Jody Turner Smith going back and forth about
things like their daughter and their daughter is young. Their
daughter is five years old, well someplace to report she's four,
but someplace to report she's five, but she's young. Their
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daughter is under nine years old, and they've been going
back and forth about where she's going to go to
school and just what custody looks like between the two
of them, because they're both really involved parents. So Jody
Smith Turner's letter is about the role of a mother
in a child's life, especially a girl, a young girl,
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especially when you're dealing with two parents who are now separated.
More specific she's talking about the role of a black
mother in a biracial child's life. It's specially a biracial daughter.
So the letter starts, Hi, Josh, thank you for your message.
I appreciate your recognition of how fluid the production timeline
can be. Your willingness to accommodate the fluidity truly makes
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a difference. And when she talks about production timeline, she's
talking about a show that she's shooting. So then she
goes on, I'm also so glad that we agree that
our share goals to provide Juno with as much stability, consistency,
and meaningful time with both of us as possible. I
hear and appreciate your point that that is ultimately her
time with each of us, and not the other way around.
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The framing feels very important. This arrangement allows Juno to
enjoy a true sense of continuity and presence, something we
both value. She's excited about our travel plans, and I
believe this stretch of time will allow her to feel
deeply grounded and connected during a season that's naturally more
open and flexible. Now again, I mentioned that all of
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this that's happening in the midst of them having these
like custody conversations, right and more recently, when it was
about a month ago when reports came out that they
were having issues over determining a schooling determination between the
two of them and then the custody. The conversation with
custody was about their daughter, Juno's summer schedule and like
where she would spend her time summer, how that time
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would be broken down in what she would be doing. So,
Jody continues, I want to raise the subject as something
that has been weighing heavily on me, and it's grounded
not just an instinct or emotion, but in widely established research.
Before Juno was born, you and I spoke at length
about what she would need to grow into a strong,
self assured young person. Central to those conversations was the
importance of the maternal bond, and more specifically, the critical
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role that being close to her black mother would play
in shaping her identity and self esteem. Research consistently shows
that for biracial children, particularly with a black mother, that
connection is not periphial. It is foundational. It plays a
vital role in identity formation, emotional resilience, in a long
term physical well being. These aren't abstract ideas, They've lived
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daily realities that you know is already beginning to experience
in the consistency of our time together, especially when school
is out in their space for deeper connection is one
of the most effective ways to support her through them.
The vision we once shared hasn't changed, and it begins
here and ensuring that Juno is not only protected, but affirmed,
reflected and deeply rooted in who she is. So I
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want to talk a bit before we get into you know,
just where you know, opinion on this letter and all
the things. I want to talk a bit about the
custody conversation that I brought up. So according to reports,
and actually TMC is the one who broke the story,
there were legal documents that were filed back in May
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of twenty twenty five. It was actually May third, so
it was right before single de Maya of this year,
and in the Joshua and Joshua Jackson and Jody were
figuring out more of the divorce settlement, but specifically they
had to use a mediator to come up with a
temporary schedule to figure out what the fifty to fifty
custodyould look like with their daughter. Now here's what they
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can't agree on. So they agreed where Juna is going
to go to school eventually, Like they got to that
agreement right, And that was a part of the reports
is that that was one of the things that they
could not figure out. So in this most recent filing
they were able to agree on that. And then after that,
Jody was asking for a judge to force Joshua to
adhere to a core order that gives her the power
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to pick elementary school. So it's more so about where
she's going to go to school next. And the issue
is that Jody is basically asking for their daughter Juno
to go to a new school next year. But she
says that Joshua Jackson is not having that, like he's
sitting it in a way that now she says that
she's researched his new school. She talked about it with
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Joshua Jackson and made sure it was close enough to
his home as well, but he's refusing to get on board.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
So that's the school situation. So baby girls in school,
the school she's that currently is fine. It's about where
she's going next. As far as the summer schedule, Joby
Turner is as she's wanting to spend five weeks with
her daughter in Europe, which she said will allow their
daughter Juno to enjoy a true sense of continuity and presence,
which is what I was referencing, something that they both value.
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But Joshua Jackson is pushing back against this because he's
saying it would leave him without seeing his daughter for
at least a month. Now. Jody is also asking that
their daughter, do you know, you know, within these travel plans,
be able to stay with her and Morocco while she's
working there. That is the production schedule they were referencing.
But Joshua is standing. He sentos down with saying we
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need to have a meaningful conversation about this because any
travel arrangements involving their daughter, including the location, the schedule,
and all these things. He wants to have a conversation
about it before he makes actual decisions. And Jody has
actually said to him as well, like, look, I know
it's summertime, so if you have a specific travel plans
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or you know anything that you want to do, just
let me know so that we can talk about it
ahead of time. But I do want you to talk
to me about it before you take it to our daughter,
because you know, it's like once you tell a kid something,
and she says this, and Jody Turner says this in
her documents that she followed. She says, you know, once
you tell a kid something, then it causes confusion and
it causes disappointment, and I don't want that. Now I'm listen,
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I understand Jody's point, you know, Jody Turner, I understand
her point right, because look, I'm not biracial. Both my
parents are black, I mean, as you guys can tell.
But I hope she doesn't mind me telling the story.
She knows who I'm talking about. She's listening to the podcast.
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But I have a biracial friend who I got really
really close to when I was living in LA And
until I got close to her, I didn't even understand,
nor did I think that there was a like a
struggle or a world of things that biracial children went through.
I remember one time we were in a grocery store
and we were leaving a grocery store and we pulled
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out of the grocery store and there was a woman
who was pulling in to take our spot, and then
there was another car waiting behind us. And the way
that we backed up, the woman wasn't able to get
into the spot, so the car behind us was able
to pull in. So as we're going around the woman
and it's a white woman, she yells the N word
out of the window, and oh my god, it picked
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like I mean, I was like, whatever, old white lady. Whatever.
It pissed my friend off so bad, and I was like, Yo,
why do you care so much about this woman that
you don't even know, you know what I mean? Like
we're in the car, you don't know this woman. Obviously
she's not about the parking space. She's gonna say anything
you make you mad. I've learned to just let ignorant
people be ignorant because I've dealt with it, and I
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know who I am, so I know I'm not the
N word with an r er, you know what I mean.
I know I'm an educated, beautiful black woman. Like it's
different but when I say it pissed her off, It
pissed her off to the point where we had to
pull over for her to gather herself and get herself together.
Like she was crying, she was emotional. It was a
whole thing. And as I'm talking to her, I'm realizing, like, wow,
like her identity of self when it comes to her
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as a black woman, because she has a black parent
and a white parent, it's not as strong like anything
can kind of shake her. And it's because she grew
up not as close to her black side of her family.
So the black identity that she did have and that
she gained from friends in school and community, whenever that
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was like tested or questioned, no matter how big or
how small the way that it would throw her off.
I'd never experienced anything like it. And I think, and
not even think once we begin to talk about it more,
I'm like, Yo, why did that bother I get it,
it's racial, and anybody hearing that is going to bother them.
But it's sad to say, but it's like, I mean,
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letting ignorant people be ignorant is just a thing that
I've It's kind of like not a coping mechanism. But
it's just one of those things. It's things. It's like
the same way when I walk into a store, my
first thing is, let me not bring big bags in here,
because I don't want them to think I'm stealing. Whereas
another person who don't look like me or who is
white passing does not have to think about that type
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of stuff. It's just something that I know to do.
So for me, let ignorant people be ignorantless it's right
in my face, and I you know what I mean,
Like that's different. But we're in a car, we're pulling
off like it's whatever. But in talking to her, what
I learned and what I realized was that anytime her
black side, if anything, was questioned, she wasn't sure about
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it enough to stay in firm. And I'm gonna just
let ignorant people be ignorant because I know that's not
how I identify. She couldn't stand in that because it
wasn't instilled in her from her black side of her family.
So she's never fully been able to like identify with that.
And the closest thing in proximity she has to identifying
with it is what she's taught herself. It didn't come
from a place of love or from people who love her,
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and not even from people who love her because you know,
as her friend, I love her like that type of thing,
but not from her mother or like, you know, someone
that's more like the maternal or nurturing in her life.
So it just her experience in walking through the world
was so different, and she was always not black enough
for the black kids, not white enough for the white kids. Right,
So she's always been trying to figure out where the
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identity lied and what she identified with the most, right
which words, which was her black side because of her
friends and her school she went to and all those things.
She had an adopted mom who raised her, who was
also black. But again, it's different. It's not your it's
not your natural like it's not your your mom who
birth you. So there's just all these questions that she's
trying to figure out. I tell you guys this story
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to say that I realized in that moment and being
friends with her and in that particular moment, that there
was just something different about being raised to know that
as a black person in this world, or as a
black specifically a black woman in this world, to know
your brilliance and to know your uh just your wholeness
and where that comes from, like who teaches it to
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you and how you get to know it. It's such
an important thing and it's it's an everyday thing in
a black household, and it's something that we don't even
think twice about as we're raising children or you know,
me being the child of a mother who was black.
But when I begin having conversations with my biracial friend
and I began to realize that, like she didn't have
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that study like to stand on two feet about that
it was and it was because of what she lacked
in her upbringing. When I read this letter, and this
letter is a couple of days old as well, so
it's been out, you know, not this letter, but the
letter that was included in the filing is a couple
days old, so it's been out. When I read it,
I'm like, man, I can really like I hear her
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and I understand her now whether or not Joshua Jackson
will understand her, because at the end of the day,
no matter how much you know, empathy a person that
is not black has for us and what we need
and how we need to be poured into in order
to navigate in the world. No matter how much of
that you have, it's still different being a black man
raising a black child with a black woman versus being
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a white man raising a child with a black woman.
So whether he's gonna fully understand that or not, it's
one thing. And I you know, we'll see how this
plays out. And I think that it is so evolved
for you know, even though their relationship didn't work out,
for them to even be having those conversations, because it
is a real thing. Wishing him the best we will,
you know, I'll say a breast to you know, the
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filings and kind of what happens and where they land,
because it seems like he's not being just hard about
her request for no reason. It's just a it's a
parental thing. It's like a hey, I understand all of that,
but I'm her father too. He even says in one
of the documents that he says, I don't think that
on location tutoring can APPROXI the importance of what Juno
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has received by attending school and being in a consistent
peer environment this year, her social and emotional development, and
her academic achievement this year have been truly extraordinary. And
this is him responding and basically saying, like, you know,
as she's traveling, like, yes, it's amazing, she'll get to
learn these things, she'll get to be with you. But
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as school finishes and we want to you know, nurture her,
you know, socially and academically, still throughout the summer, as
she prepares to go back into school, traveling and you know,
not having you know, that peer to peer consistency, it
could interfere and tutoring is different than being in school
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and being with her friends and all those things. Like
it seems like, you know, they're trying to accommodate for
the lives that they live at celebrities. But he's also
reminding Jody, like there is a level of consistency and
in normal normalcy that you want to provide for a
child as well too. Let me know, So I think
about the conversation. I think that it's definitely one worth having,
especially as we go into junetieth celebrating all of you know,
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the blackness and all these things. And that's so ironic.
I didn't even tie the two together when I was
prepping this, but it's ironic how they both tied together
talking about celebrating Juneteenth and everything that is your blackness
that day and every day, but that day specifically. And
then this story now as we head on out of here,
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in the latest, we have Jamie Fox. Jamie Fox sat
down for this really interesting interview with BET. He was
honored at BET. He received an icon of ward for
his legacy, his career, all of the things during the
twenty twenty five be ET Awards, which was amazing to see.
You guys knew I was in LA for the award show,
but there was an interview that released. I watched the
interview yesterday and it was such a great interview. Jamie
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Fox talked about everything from you know who taught him.
He talked about Harry Bellefonte teaching him how to be
a black man and what that responsibility look like. He
talked about do you even have to have responsibility as
a black person or as a black entertainer. He talked about,
you know, just his abilities and doing the things that
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he's able to do, and his career and you know,
all all of the things. But he brought up one
thing that I thought was very interesting. He talked about
social media and just being famous right now and how
it is so different than when he got started and
what he wished for.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I tell people all the time this is be careful
what you wish for, because I'm a gregarious dude and
I just want to have fun. And sometimes people will
take advantage of that, especially in today's world now, where
you know you gotta be careful. Everything is looked at,
everything is scrutinized. So I do a thing in my
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new stand up I'm going out on a new stand
up call of Victory lap Yeah on Hulu, But I
talked about how fame is not necessarily fun anymore.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Back in the day, fame.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Was cool yourself, but now you know, it's kind of
it's tough, you know. And what's crazy is everything that
you're doing could be negated in one post.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
This conversation was unique coming from a Jamie Fox because
Jamie Fox is a part of that celebrity group who
he still remembers what it was like to be famous
pre social media, but he is a huge celebrity, so
he can't escape life post social media either. When Jamie
Fox was going through his health battle, I remember being
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at TMZ and you know, one of the things that
you learned in the newsroom about developing exclusives and working
on stories is do you always find an angle in?
Whenever you blocked out one way, you find the angle
in another way. And I've worked on many stories from
TMZ to now in my career with the Breakfast Club,
and you know, in trying to find angles and find
ways into a bit less invasive at the Breakfast Club,
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thank god, but in trying to find my way into
these different stories, I still come up on roadblocks where
I'm like, Okay, what's another way in? Can I you know,
if the turney don't want to talk, what about the publicist,
what about the manager, what about the whatever. Jamie Fox
when he was going through his healthcare, when I tell y'all,
we couldn't find no way in. We did like everything
was shut down. His family did a really good job
(22:23):
of protecting him through that and making sure that not
too much slipped. There were certain things that still got out,
but they controlled the narrative. We didn't see him like
they controlled as much as they could so well in
a social media time with a name like Jamie Fox,
who comes from the real era of celebrities, y'all know
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how hard that is. So to hear him talk about
just you know, thinking of fame one way, wishing for
fame one way, getting it, and then it being so
different than what you experienced, especially now with social media,
I was like, why, that's very ironic because in all
of my career, working the story and reporting the story
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of Jamie Fox and what he was going through in
his healthcare was probably one of the toughest stories that
we worked on. Number one, because it's Jamie Fox and
he so beloved and we just didn't know what was
happening and you want him to be okay. But also
they did his family hold it down? We couldn't get
there was nothing, nothing leaking on social nothing. So I'm like,
you know, for him to complain about it, I'm like, man,
it seems like y'all got it on lock over there,
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Like y'all y'all got a downpack over there, Jamie Fox.
Though I'm not even gonna lie y'all definitely do. I've
experienced it firsthand, But I think there is a point
to what he's talking about. Though. It's like, even when
he mentioned the you know, like one post and everything
you've worked for, it could just be negated, like one
post on social media and the court of public opinion
can cause a downfall of so many different things. That
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is like the scariest part of a lot of the
things that I'm experiencing today and in this time. And
I look at you know, people like Jamie Fox, and
you know, Gabrielle Union to rah gp Henson and you
know all of these major Oh my god, Kerry Washington.
There's so many major names that I look to. I
think in Hathaway does a really good job of being
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present on social media, but you know, you won't really
know too much of her business. Like, there are a
lot of celebrities that I look at and I'm like,
they do a really good job of still remaining that
mystique of I'm a celebrity, you can't know everything, and
I'm not going to give you everything, but still using
social media to a point where you feel connected with them.
Kerry Washington owned Twitter during the scandal days, but we
knew nothing about her personal life until she told us
(24:35):
those type of uh, you know, celebrities in that age
of celebrity, it's like the younger the celebrities get, the
more the that dies out. It just it's disappearing, and
it's nerve racking a bit, especially as like things are
growing for me myself. But it's also nerve racking a
bit too because it causes a like a whole genre
(24:58):
of media and conversation and just noise of people who
will do and say anything, and then it's hard to
negate through that because there's not a lot of people
out here doing the due diligence. I was literally just
talking about this the other day for what I do,
not even just here on the podcast, but for breakfast Club,
(25:18):
Like you know, waking up in the morning, I'm looking
through stories trying to figure out what to talk about.
A lot of times I'm trying to develop my own
news on my own angles in as I just mentioned exclusives.
But when I don't have that, sometimes it's like, Okay,
let me see what the world is talking about. And
I've been feeling like over these last couple of weeks, like, man,
so much of this stuff is noise. I'm scared to
even report certain things, even if valid dot coms are
(25:40):
reporting it, because things are just so things are just
so misconstrued, like people can paint any narrative they want. Nowadays,
because of social media and then it makes a dot
com or it makes a news report and that is
so scary and it's just getting worse. So to know
that it's still fat affecting someone as big as a
(26:01):
Jamie Fox, I'm like, man, he's like Jamie Fox is
like pinnacle entertainer. It's not about being a black entertainer.
He is pinnacle entertainer. Like every there's nowhere you go
that is not going to know a Jimmie Fox and
he's still being affected by it. I'm like, it's over
for the rest of us. We ain't got a shot
in ht double hockey sticks. If Jamie Fox is feeling
(26:23):
like this, it's like, man, what do I have to
look forward to? Well, speaking of social media, I'm gonna
take you guys outside to the tweets. We outside, we outside,
we outside in the streets. I tweeted something and when
(26:44):
I tell you, all the people are in my mentions
going crazy like go and saying, so I want to
get y'all take on it, right, Okay, So I retweeted this,
uh this tweet. It says tr or Gez, who had
a better first five album run, So they've got TI's serious.
(27:05):
Tis Trap Music, TI self titled album, TI TI King,
and then TI versus Tip Verse five TI albums. Then
you got GZ. So you have Young g Z. Let's
get it, thug motivation one on one, Young GZ the inspiration,
Young GZ the recession, Young g Z, Thug motivation won
(27:26):
on three Hustles, Ambition, and Young g Z seen it
all the autobiography. Now, I said GZ, And granted, it's
hard anytime you talk about GZ and TI and a conversation,
especially comparing it too, but just in general, like anytime
people bring them up in a competitive way, I think
people are always so competitive because these are two artists
(27:49):
who literally changed the face of trap music and everything
that they've touched, like they've culturally influenced and left a
mark in a way that like you're gonna feel so
tied to the change that you felt when they when
they were doing when they were really in the crevices
of doing their thing right. So I get it. But
(28:09):
for me, I don't know, I felt like, and I'm
not this is not me saying that t I's first
five albums wasn't a run. That's not what I'm saying.
I just think that Gz's was a better first five
album Run. Now, I want to know what y'all think,
because the people online they're like, what so uh. Someone
(28:29):
said I'm gonna have to roll with young jeez Tip
set it up though, then another one said, Lauren, how
old are you? Where were you back in these days?
Because you wasn't really outside I could tell by your choice.
I was like, WHOA. Then someone else said, I'm gonna
choose both, but Tip hands down, and then somebody agreed
with Oh, somebody just said, you bugging out cash to
(28:55):
for S one on X edge, you bugging out will
all due respect, I gotta respond that album because that
one's kind of funny. Let me know what y'all think, though,
So this is more about what I want you guys
to get on my X account. I'm Lauren la Rosa
on X my post t I g Z who had
the better first album first five album run. Let me
know what y'all think, because I'm not even arguing back
(29:18):
with the people. I feel that way because I feel
like Gez's song like when you talk about full bodies
of work all the way through. And again, I'm not
taking away from t I. I think it's just a
personal choice. I just personally, I can name you multiple
songs off multiple want multiple up, multiple of these albums.
Is that is that how you think it sends? Te
(29:38):
don't even know how to talk. That's like you know
the episode is indre. I can name you multiple songs
from multiple of these albums because I was maybe too.
I may maybe I'm just a bigger GZ fan, y'all.
Let me know what y'all think. I think it's a
personal choice, personal opinion. I think both of them were
very influential. I think their you know, first few album run,
Like I said, it changed the way that we even
(29:58):
talk about track music, music from the South. I think
they both have done things that you're never gonna forget,
Sounds that you're never gonna forget, hooks, bars that you're
never gonna forget. But personally, it's jeezy for me. What's
y'all thing? Let me know. At the end of the day,
there is always a lot to talk about. You guys
could be anywhere with anybody talking about it, but you
(30:19):
choose to be right here with me, and I appreciate
you guys for that. I'm Laura mo Rosa. I will
see you guys at my next episode.
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