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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Dan, everybody come to the breakfast Club. I call this
the hot seat. You are I'm not even dealing here.
I'm so bad? Are you so bad? The world's most
dangerous morning chel d j N this bitch angel I
stay in everybody's business, but in a good way. Charlemagne

(00:22):
the guy the ruler rubbing you the wrong way. The
breakfast club ain't for everybody. Wake up, wake up, wake y'all,
as this is you're time to get it off your
chest with your man of blank. We want to hear
from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's this? And
what's up? Forty four year old? He's going on, what's up?

(00:42):
My ge? Hit it off your chest? Yeah, just real
quicktion dolla, man foody out of the water with that
one waking up in the morning and just chucking some
brucktos down that that's crazy for man who doesn't fart
in his own close. I don't fight, I definite, I
definitely don't fight my own clothes. But when I'm home
on the weekend. When I'm home on the weekend and
then I wake up on a Saturday morning, Sunday morning,
when I wake up, breakfast is you know, usually already done.

(01:04):
So yes, I go right downstairs and me yeah, crazy
because the bacteria and I just swallowing down there. That bro,
that's tricky. I just listen, Honestly, I do not feel right.
Even if I get up to go to the bathroom
and I'm going right back in bed, I still get
up and brush my teeth. But it's a habit. Hold on,
you get up in the middle of the night to

(01:25):
use the bathroom and brush your teeth in the morning.
If I wake up on the weekend and it's like
seven am and i'mnna get back in bed, I'll brush
my teeth. And also too after you if even if
you do brush your teeth first thing in the morning,
you're probably gonna drink some water or something before you
drink some orange juice all liquid the horrible after brush
it but not not what But that's fine, yah know,
not exactly all right to put that out there, like okay,

(01:49):
I'm with you, peace, Hello, who's this what I'm getting
off your chest? First off, I just want to say
shout out to Charlotte Lane shut change and the biggest
shout out to DJ mby M about five six years ago,
you uh, you had to show a car show at
the Highlight Stadium. I think that's what it was called.

(02:12):
And I'm a performer and you got me to perform
at your car show, and after that, I've been getting gigs,
getting both my bread right, and I won't give you
a big thank you for that, Vie Okay, all right,
well yeah, thank you Mann. Shout out my instagram. So
if anybody wants these my performances in't royalty in dot
royaltyr Instagram, I appreciate. Hello. Who's this is? How you doing?

(02:39):
What's up? Broke it off your chest? Hey? I want
to give a big shout out that you know leisure
because these guys have been given out free games every
consistent week on the internet and not too many people
and a couple of times a week done last That
man is the goal I saw Ian yesterday information. He

(03:01):
does not mint on this information because he knows what
he's talking about. And I really wanted to get an
information to all my brothers because we are the ones
just gonna make a difference in this world, and all
of these players gonna make a difference is if we
go out there and start grinding and listening to earn
earn your lesia Ian Dunlapping. Don't forget the Wall Street

(03:22):
Trapper now, salute to the Wall Street Trapper. Absolutely shout
to them. I just spoke to them actually, like maybe
twenty minutes ago. They're actually on their way to Nigeria.
E y yelling, Yeah they're going out. This they're going out.
And spoke to them. So Weston brothers the best to
look out in uh Nigerian and I think they had
in the Egypt after Hello, who's this? Hey? Good morning Stevie, Steve.
Stevie Steve. What I'm getting off your chest? Brow much?

(03:44):
You're doing good? Less black and Holly favored? How you
doing king? Um? Nothing, ma'am. I'm doing good. I mean
my birthday coming to this weekend. I'm gonna give myself
a birthday shout out. Brother. Yeah, turning thirty one? No, hey,
ain't doing too much? I old you say third one one? Yeah,
as young as hell, bro, especially I'm forty three. That's yeah,
you got a lot more to go. Ain't doing too much? Nah,

(04:08):
I was still mixing at thirty one. I'm chilling, man,
So you're just chilling this weekend now, Like I'm trying
to go skating trying to do something I'm trying to
do when I was young. That's cool. I'm from I'm
from Delaware. I called a couple weeks ago. I'm trying
to get on you Masters comedy. Yeah, remember I get
my comedy page. I want to check me out. Oh yeah,
I remember? Okay, all right, well happy birthday, halfend skating?

(04:31):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, you're ye. Give out your name again, Steve,
Steve Comedy. Okay, Instagram, I remember, Okay, got hello? Who's this? Hello?
This is to me. They's definitely get off your chests.
I just want to say that, even though I'm going
to a breakup, I'm still glass. So I just want
to tell people to give their head out, even a

(04:53):
bad day only last twenty four hours. I'm also I
want to say Charlemagne that his books are helping me
a lot. Great. Oh, thank you, thank you very much.
I would really really love if you follow me on
the Instagram. I love you so much. You will mean
a lot to me. I got you, got your Instagram, Tessie. Yeah,
and I'm gonna put you on hold. I'm gonna put

(05:14):
you on hold and get your address. I'm gonna send
you something. I'm gonna send you, um doctor to Walker,
the unapologetic guy in the black mental health and I'm
gonna send you up so much. Yeah, I'm gonna sending
you resumementic in my grandmother's hands to it because those
books really helped me. So oh, thank you so much,
handling man. I really really appreciate that. Ye, hold on,
I got you, hold on, get it off your chest
eight hundred five eight five one on five one. If

(05:36):
you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the
Breakfast Club the morning, the Breakfast Club. Hey what get
pick up the mother mother phone and die. This is
your time to get it off your chest whether you're mad. Last,
we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club,
so you better have the same energy come out this. Hey,

(05:56):
my name is Magnetic Show one grade. I want to
talk to y'all about about somebody on Instagram. He claimed
here a rapper. How y'all doing it? Oh my god,
it's magnificent one Drea about So this dude name is Joe.
He tried to scare me for thirty bucks for a beat.
I sold him and I put them on. I put
him on Instagram. Yeah, yeah, it's on my story it's

(06:20):
on there and all that, y'all can go see it
and all that. You saw them a b for thirty
dollars and he didn't pay for it. You know. He
tried to scare me for door dash and he came up.
But then he came into my Instagram like, hey, you
see that thirty dollars I got you for. I'm like, yeah,
the one they didn't go through. I leave it, okay. Yeah,
So I just want to let y'all know these little
rappers out here, they scammers. They try to get you

(06:42):
for the little money. You know what I'm saying, But
it never worked, you know what I'm saying. But hey,
Charlotte Man, I love what you say. King I was saying,
Charlotte Man, I love your show. I downloaded Paramount specifically
for your show. I love it. And Lily listen to
your little service all the time. Thank you, Uh DJ

(07:06):
Intervie man, listen, I love your show. I love Breakfast Club.
Y'all do a wonderful job. Sound love us. I appreciate
it every day. No, all right, well, thank you bro.
Already no producers, no rapper stealing money from you, shall
prosper you remember that, sir, Hello, who's this? Yeah, it's John,

(07:29):
John what I'm getting off your chest? Hey, good morning y'all.
I want to stay like Howard. They the only that's
uh doing grammar stuff to the students. I got um.
I coached football. I was a high school college high
school coach. I ended up leaving my position to come
coach and an Ahu and I literally didn't get paid

(07:50):
from August third until the day I quit, which this
last week. What I don't even want to do it
right that because I got a lot of black pride,
but true, damn, I'm sorry to hear that. Brother. Yeah, man, uh,
and like it's it's crazy because you want to support
you know what I'm saying, your own your own kind.
But at the end of the day, they do your worthday,
you know what I'm saying. The p w asses. But

(08:12):
I mean it's not not to make any excuses. P
wis make a lot more money. Yeah, they get a lot,
but you should have definitely gotten paid for your work.
I mean, I don't even understand how that's possible. Absolutely, man,
it was insane. But I appreciate you out of time.
Why did you are you ever going to get your money?
How does that work now, he said, he got to feel.
What happened was it was four people in my position.

(08:33):
One of them quit and then he got paid. Rap
that he quit. The other three of us were still
working like that. When we look at I checked, and
we kept working. You know, I said, another month pass,
I end up quitting and then I got paid. Okay,
So like nothing if like they're trying to put you
to quick, that's so weird, that's crazy. I'm glad you
got your money finally though. Yeah, the free labor, Yeah,

(08:54):
I appreciate it. Thank you, albrighty man, get it off
your chess eight, don't you five eight? Five one on
five one hit us up right now. It was the
Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody's DJ
Envy Angela Yee, Charlottagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club.
We got a special guests in the building right, the
Wall Street trap But what U brother was God was good?

(09:14):
Was good? Was good? Family? How everybody done? Blessed Black
and Holly favor. In fact, for people who don't know
who the Wall Street Trapper is, you might have heard
him when the earn your lead your podcast. I missed
you that week, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll
go back home a lot. So I had went back
to New Orleans to be with my daughter when you can. Yeah, yeah,
miss you. That matter ballum talking to you about that, dude, definitely. Yes,

(09:36):
it's been eighty five South Show, Calllos and the crew.
I appreciate those d Yeah yeah yeah. Let's breakdown while
you the Wall Street Trapper well man first and almost
let me say this man, Charlotte, Man, I want to
tell you, man, I appreciate your brother. You the first
black man I ever heard talk about mental health and um,
just coming from WHI I'm from New Orleans. Man. You

(09:56):
know I saw my moms get shot when I was nine. Um,
I want I'm going to prison at sixteen for shooting
a man and just being in the hood, coming up
in the streets. Man, you never knew how trauma affects you.
So I really got a therapist, not man. Wow. So
I want to tell you, man, I appreciate you for that.
Love King, I appreciate you for that m Yeah. Just

(10:18):
the Wall Street trapper. Man grew up in New Orleans, Man,
some of moms get shot, went to prison, all that stuff.
My story ain't no different. To many other people, but
just in prison I got introduced the stocks. White guy
told me this. I had just had a fight with
two of my soul call friends, man, and he had
a look of frustration on his face, right, and he
was just like, man, y'all playing the wrong game. And

(10:40):
in my mind, I'm like, Hi, we playing the wrong game?
Are you were here with me? But he told me
some profound stuff. Man. He said, so I had a
red band on so in the waters the red band
means attempt murder, the murder on Robert car Jack and
viting the fence. And he had a raided white band on,
which mean he was going to the fads. And he
was like, I can almost promise you your in here

(11:00):
for something less than one hundred thousand dollars. And I
was like for sure. And he was like, well, I
embezz with two point eight million from my company, pay
a restitution at eight hundred thousand. I still kept two million.
I'm only doing eighteen months. He was like, how much
time you have? I was sixteen at the time. I
had ten years. He was like, now you understand. I

(11:21):
was like, man, you're lying, man, got that much money.
One thing about being in prison, you always have your
paperwork with you. So he showed miss paperwork. I see
it in black and white. She's showing me the places
he'd been to. And I'm like, yo, I need to
play that game, Like what is that? And he was
just like, listen, one of the first things you got
to stop doing is like, stop trading your time for money.
Start learning to make your money work for you. And
then he tells me, wealthy people invest in stocks, they

(11:45):
start a business, and then they buy real estate. You
do those three things, your life would change. So the
rest of my ten years, I dedicated myself to like, yo,
I just gotta learn how to play it. Started dedicating
myself to reading. And I was like, damn, like different,
I see a bunch of white men making a whole
lot of money, Like why have I never been taught this?

(12:05):
Like why we never taught this? And just coming back
home from prison, Mike Tyson said, the best man, everybody
got a plant. They get punched in the face. Right.
So I got back home, I got this idea. I
see it. How do I get money? Like I get
back in the streets. That's what I knew how to do.
My gram went to the fis my mom, Like, this
is what I knew how to do, This is my environment.

(12:26):
No matter what I knew, I gotta get money. So
I get back in the streets man, And just in
that whole process, I'm like, all right, cool, this is
what it is my mind. I'm gonna just use my
hustle mother to investment stock movie like this harm thinking
it's gonna work. Kind of didn't go that way. I
catch another charge the NRCH kick my doing ten pounds
a week ten thousand dollars. I was facing another thirty

(12:48):
five years that cost me sixty thousand dollars. So everything
that I had invest I mean it worked for in
the streets. I hadn't lost it again. So man, just
God came to me one day and he was like, man,
are you playing the wrong game? Like and it just
I had epiphanis. I was like, all right, cool. So
I still didn't get it, dude, because I got back
in the streets. But this time I count hustle. So
I started robbing, you know, hustlers, like that's the next

(13:10):
best thing for me in my mind, Like the streets
is what I knew how to do. And then I
just all right, let me do something then, so I
just started reading it again. I always was a smart dude.
I'm like, all right, let me just try it. Then,
so I started really getting into it, like I know
this makes sense, Like, damn, I see why they don't
teach us this. It's powerful, Like seventy percent of everything

(13:31):
that we use and consume, what our money is on
the stock market. And I started teaching my homes and
I was like, all right, how do I make it
realistic to them? How do I make them tap into it? Right?
So I can't talk to everybody, but I can talk
to the street dudes, like I can talk to them
something like, Yo, check this out. If you go do
a bid, which is gonna happen, what do you come
home to, Like, you gotta get back in the streets.

(13:52):
You gotta get it out the mud again. So if
you had money invested for you when you come home,
you got money. You don't got to ask nobody from
no handout. Like, so let's start thinking bigger, pitching on
what happens if you get killed in the street, because
most of us need to go to jail or we
get killed. What do you leave your kids? Like, let's
start making it makes sense. So the goal for me
was to never tell you get out the streets. It
was to start saying, let's start thinking about our family now,

(14:14):
like let's start thinking about something bigger than us. And
nobody never came to us like that. So that was
my whole avenue. And so the Wall Street Trapper was
me just saying, let me turn the trapper word into
something positive instead of always been about dope, instead of
always being about hustling. And I knew my voice for
who I was talking to. I never wanted to talk
to nobody else. All Right, we got more with the
Wall Street Trapper. When we come back, It's the Breakfast Club.

(14:35):
Good Morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy
and July Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
We're still kicking it with the Wall Street Trappers. Charlomagne,
mister trapper, what was the first amount of money you
invested into the stock market and what the stock was it?
It's ten thousand dollars. I invested in four probably the

(14:58):
worst investment I made in the beginning, because I was
just going off of everybody got a Mustang. This before
I learned the fundamentals um and I realized that it
was a bad company. I did that too. I brought
you involved to Yeah, I thought that it was a
bad company, but you get me in on them now.
I wanted to. I wanted to do under arm because
in my head it was Steph Curry was endorsing it,

(15:20):
and I was like Steph Curry's attached to I felt
comfortable about at that time. I did still come back.
It did good for a couple of months. And then
so I own a company called Lulu Lemon. Now when
you said you own a company, you invested a company,
you call yourself ownership. But now I'm my owner. So
I'm glad you said that when you buy stock in

(15:41):
the business, you are part owners at that point like
non Disney, Yes you are. I teach my list. I
teach my daughter that. Now now I teach my daughter that.
I was like, stank, you own two hundred and fifty
shares of Disney. She was like, Daddy, I own Mickey Mouse.
I said, you dwn right, like you get voting rights,
Like they send you emails like Yo, this is what

(16:02):
it's called in a proxy statement. Yo, this is we're doing.
This is what this is what we lost money at.
This is how we plan on making money. Oh and
by the way, we're declaring a fifty cent divid than
that's to you as an owner of stock. You are
now entitled to a portion of the profit that that
business makes. What makes you better is the more ownership

(16:23):
you have the mosai so you have you feel what
I'm saying as with anything so instarted under Armer, like
I bought Lulu Limit because I felt it was a
better business. But that worked out for you. But even so,
like you do real estate envy. Like what people don't
know is like you can get into real estate in
the stock market right through. It's called real estate investment.
Trust reads right, So just think about this, wal Mart, Amazon,

(16:46):
they're not in the real McDonald's, they're not in the
real estate business. So safe. But they can go to
somebody and say, yo, I need a warehouse made a
thousand squeet by one thousand square feet. The people gonna
come to them and say, okay, cool, we'll make the
will build it for you, but you have to sign
a lease with us triple that least, right, And that's
just simply saying I'll provide the building you pay all
the bills right. So now as an investor, I can

(17:10):
say I own the company who wear Amazon pays rent to.
I own a company that Walmart pays rent to seventy eleven.
I own a company called Old Reality. Right, they pay
dividends every month. They own seventy eleven Walgreens, Planet Fitness
Home Depot, so I own the people they pay rent to.

(17:31):
So essentially you can still get into real estate that way.
What do you think you would be if you didn't
go to jail. I tell people that's the most important
part of my life. I would never take that ten
years back like I did it. You can't. Time is
our most important asset. But for me, that elevated my
who I am as a man, who I am as
a father to another level with I will prison. There

(17:52):
is no law street trap. I asked that question because,
like I always say, prisons aren't real correctional facility. But
if there was actual teachers there instead of the guy
that you was, you know that was that was They're
doing a bit with you, somebody that could actually plant
seeds and you and Trapper, won't you come do this

(18:13):
stock exchange thing for real and go to classes while
you're here, you could come out of better human but
we need people like you that I'm really trying to
get back in prisons right now, Like that's something like
I'm heavy. I was talking about guy Andre normal, Like yo,
I need to get back in the trap for real.
Like I am my brother's keepers in a way, because
once I had a knowledge and I don't teach it
to him, then I'm at fault, not him, you feel me,

(18:34):
So I started holding myself accountable for teaching my brother's stuff,
and so I had to relearn a whole bunch of stuff,
like my actions, my ways, my demeanor, me seeing another
black man not looking at him like I got something
against him, but looking at him like what's good, king
are you doing? Like how can like let me let
me diffuse it? Early that dialogue it changed, so now

(18:54):
you're receptive to what I got to say. That's why
I love your story because it literally just shows all
you got to do with poor we're in the brothers
and sisters man like we just because you grew up
in a certain environment. We're not setting our ways, but
I just don't know any other way. That's it's learned behavior.
Thank you for joining us. Thank thank you. Give me
information Instagram or for show man, Wall Street Trapper on
Instagram is wall Underscool Street Underscore Trapper um and on

(19:20):
YouTube is just Wall Street trapping. Man. Check me out.
I dropped a lot of information every day all day
on Instagram and YouTube. So just just hol at me man.
Let's get it. Let's trap big trap. All right, well,
let's the Breakfast Club is Wall Street Trapper? Appreciate y'all man,
It's topic time called eight hundred and five eight five

(19:43):
one oh five. Wanted to join it to the discussion
with the breakfast Club talk about it, wanting everybody is
DJ Envy Angela, Yee Shalloween the guy. We are the
Breakfast Club. Now if you just joined us, it's Friday,
so you know what that means, frigg Priday. Yes, and
the freaky freaky, freaky Friday question comes from Tucy, who

(20:04):
stopped doing and we were talking about this. Do you
think that five minutes is the right amount of time
to have sex? Hell? Yeah, five minutes is enough time.
Like I ain't saying like five minutes enough time. We're
just gonna go for five minutes and we done. But
I'm saying like five minutes enough time to get the
job done for absolutely. So eight hundred five eight five
one oh five one is five minutes enough for sex? Now,

(20:26):
Charlemagne says, yes, no, what no, let me let me
say this. I'm not saying. I'm not saying five minutes
is the ideal time. What I am saying is, if
you're doing it right, five minutes is more than enough.
That's almost two boxing rounds. Okay, everybody can get off
in five minutes? Does this include four play? How are

(20:47):
you talking about? Everybody? This is sex? Four play? You
got you only? What do you do? Like what Nipplin?
Then go straight to the vagina? Like what are you doing?
M what's throwing that direction? Why have that route wrong? Know,
I'm just asking if that what's wrong with that route?
I mean that the route? But don't you spend time
on the on the on the fourth play? Don't she

(21:08):
spend time on years? And I ain't about to tell
all my business, but you know, everybody don't like five minutes.
All I'm simply saying it's five minutes is enough for
everybody to get off, okay, because somebody's faking it. Because
I'll tell you what I'll tell you what she probably
if I go downtown like s WV says, if I
go downtown like like f WV says, they did not

(21:29):
say it like that, and I do four minutes right,
and wife gets off? I only need forty five? Tell
you how you know she's faking it? And she started
doing this, Oh yeah, that's great. Hurry up, like well,
not hurry up, but you say things to try to
make him hurry. There's other things the body does that
you know, she she she really got off, Okay, but

(21:50):
you don't. I don't want to say what those things?
You know, the bunky you don't? You know, like you
just go anyway? And how long do you laugh? Don't town,
you don't. That's not downtown, man, What do you think
it's a good amount of time? I say, for a
full twenty minutes? Twenty minutes that's everything that's four play

(22:14):
and everything included. You see your hand like this, why
are you doing everything? Later? Listen? But if it includes?
But this is what I'm talking about, right, How long
did it take to get off? Not? I think I
think it's quicker for guys, and it takes longer for
women because even like biologically it's just a fact, it

(22:35):
takes a lot longer for us to get to that point.
It takes more for play for y'all. You guys are
just go you know what you know. But I do
feel like I think a good like twelve minutes is
a good amount of time, great time, because it's not
like sometimes it's too long and you'd be like, all right,
my show's about to come on, and what sort you

(22:58):
just feel cheated? You feel like and I just did
all this for five minutes. I don't think y'all understand time.
I think with y'all, if y'all listen to Angelie said,
that makes perfect sense. Twelve minutes is four rounds of boxing.
These extra missing fights is only six rounds. That's a
long time. By the sex is not boxing. I just
wanted to put that out. Yeah he heep was comparing
to the boxing. You don't kiss Charlomagne. You don't. I look,

(23:23):
I said, kiss Charlomagne. Look at me, crazy, look at
you like your boxing. And that's an issue, okay, problem
five minutes. I'm not saying five minutes is an ideal time.
I'm just saying five minutes enough, that's all I'm saying.
Let's go to the full lines. Hello, who's this Miss Mary?
Hey Mary, Come on Mary, Miss Mary? She said, is

(23:45):
Mary mac mac mac all dressing and black? Remember that?
Oh my goodness, I know it's five minutes enough time
for sex? Mama, very No, what's your magic number? Seven?
That's God's number, God's number. My minutes seven for both
of y'all. Two that's two boxing rounds. I knocked you

(24:10):
out at the beginning of the third. I haven't sat
on me, but I would say, give me like those Yeah, yeah,
I said, on both sides. That's good man. Five minutes
and fifteen seconds. These movies and these songs gassed us up.
When we was young. We thought we're supposed to be
having sex all night long. You know what I mean?
Anybody got time for that? Okay? Two minute? Man? Hello?

(24:31):
Who's this? How you doing? Man? I'm Robert Ory freaking
because of Robert Horney. Ok I know where this is?
All right, Robert Horney, it's five minutes enough for sex?
Oh yeah, I mean, if if it don't the round one,
don't last, if it last, if you don't have to
walk for wait the round. But you're say you're going
another round? Oh of course. I mean if I ain't

(24:54):
got it, like I mean this ways around that I
ain't gotta like go stop what I'm doing, start eating,
against waking what's wrong? Back of that, back up. So
you're saying that if it's not fine, if if it
lasts month in five minutes, that means that she's no good.
I'm not saying she's no good, no better. It's something
to this. I tell people this all the time, Like

(25:15):
you know what I'm saying, Like if you if a
man is having sex with you, four hours something wrong.
Hoursbody's saying hours. But there's a big difference between five
minutes an hour. Because I also felt like guys should
also be able to know what did they call it? Edging? Right?
How to get there? But then you pull back, Then
you get there again, then you pull back. You know,
you got to stop for a second or change that sound.

(25:36):
That's exactly. But if I don't have to, it's not
even true. It's not true. It's impossible. You don't even
stop lying, y'all. There no such thing is edging. When
that thing coming you hear me, okay, you can't stop
the bum rush. When he's like, don't move, don't move,
don't move absolutely, yeah, you can. It does not teach
you a couple of things. Charlotte Mage, that sounds I
don't know what You're just taking this too far. Gosh

(25:59):
Corporate told Scott help dial back on the kinky. Right,
all right, you're gonna have to stop doing this to me. Okay,
he's gonna teach you some edging. I can show you
some thing, Charlotte Mane, you know how to drive stick?
I can't learn. Don't move, don't move? Oh my goodness, hello,

(26:20):
who's this? Yeah? This is my mind, he said, He said, Mondo, monto,
what's up? Mindo? Tell him? How? Five minutes is enough time? King?
Five minutes? Five minutes is definitely enough time. You just
want to me gonna get, But it ain't enough time

(26:42):
to make a sexual connection with the girl, right, it's
not enough time if you care, right, if somebody cared
about you, that'll be the longer than five minutes. But
you ain't gonna you ain't gonna You're not gonna learn
anything about her body. Ain'tything like that. That was your girl.
You give me, But same time she's gonna get, you're
gonna get a give me we got like damn my girl,
we got four kids. Get out for the mother kids

(27:07):
coming the room. God damn, I want with my parents
to be like we made you in five minutes. I
think this, I think I think this conversation is going
a little in the wrong direction because we're not saying
five minutes is the ideal time. We're just saying five
minutes it's enough for both parties. Yea, the ideal time. No,
you can't have you can't get it. You can, but
I don't think that should be the goal. Yeah, that's

(27:28):
not the goal. Well, the goals to get it. Yeah,
I'm with Nick nigas Nick the Carrs, and the goal
is to get it. You're with Nick. If she gets
it and I get it, then we've got it. That's it,
and the game is over because you know, I'm forty
two first round knockouts for me because there ain't no
other rounds. Yeah, I'm with you, ain't no other animal.

(27:50):
Animal is expensive? Bullets expensive when you're forty two. Okay,
all right, Well, what's the moral of the story. Like
I said, five minutes may not be the ideal time,
but I think it's enough. Fair body, let's all shoot
to the ideal. Yeah, there you go. That's all. We
got more coming up next to Don't Move, Happy Holidays,
Don't Go Anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the

(28:11):
Breakfast Club. Yeah, i'st Worst Davis Morning Show to Breakfast Club,
Charlomagne and God Angela ye, dj Envy, and we got
a special guest in the building his first time on
the Breakfast Club. Do we call you mister slime, mister Williams,
mister thug, mister sex, mister sex sex sex. Okay, how
are you, sir? I'm happy to see you here. Man

(28:33):
from It's it's been a long time. We'll keep you
away from the Breakfast Club all these years. I don't know.
I think this mean you're miss understanding God Freak in
the room first though, because you and Charlemagne had exchanged.
I'm trying to remember. Even because that was so long ago.

(28:53):
I guess that was over bird Man initially. Yeah, yeah,
Charlotage touching you boy to be that it was that
was all talk, isn't it. I never understood like I
could have seen so far. It's all we all just oh,
absolutely no, it wasn't really like and then I was

(29:15):
kind of young back then, though I would admit, like,
I ain't understand blocking. You know, back then I was
so young and just like fresh in the game to
the point I ain't understand this how important it is
and how much you have to be how you is.
Absolutely But I will say I made one of the
worst hip hop predictions about ten years ago. When I

(29:36):
did last TV. They asked me, they said, who's gonna
be around longer? Rich On me Quan and young Thug,
and I said, probably rich On me Quan. Clearly I
was wrong, Clearly, clearly I was wrong. How you feel
about that? I mean, you don't get them all right?
He was wrong? Yeah, I was definitely wrong. But then

(29:58):
also too, I would you know, I would hear people
in Atlanta talk about you from a street perspective. So
I was like, well he seemed like he didn't too deep.
Never too deep. You gotta have your head on, right, man.
I just gang, you know, like knowledging, bro, you know,
Oh it's evidence, you can see it. It came older,
certain things you just I don't want to deal with. Man.

(30:19):
I kind of grew out of it, though, grew out
of what just just feeling young and just like doing young,
like arguing on it and yeah, they never really meant
man back then. It did though, because I was just
like new to the industry. That's why I was. I
was so mad at you, just because I was like,
I was fresh out of the ghetto. So seeing that
type of b then you're like, what's gonna touch him?

(30:41):
And Charlemagne was like, I'm not going nowhere. He gonna
kidnap me and torching me like that right after the
bird Man to Charletmagne, We're gonna torch you. You boy,
think you're gonna beat you. I ain't about to come
to Atlanta. I'm gonna see if he's tough. I'm nowhere

(31:05):
in the Atlanta after something like that. He got talked
to burn Man like two weeks ago too. Man Bank
put us on the phone together. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
came over. Yeah yeah, because I mean, listen, he from
the South, from just from the South. I respect that man.
That man put a lot of money in black people's pockets. Now,
I never want to get that Miskin screwed, you know
what I mean. The crazy part is, even back then,

(31:26):
I would always get calls from my folks in Atlanta,
like Bro Doug, the real deal. Even even even before
you even like popped off when you had like Stoner Round.
I think it was stone In. I forgot the other record,
like rappers be in the studio with you're like many
here with guns right now, And I don't know this
is true. Somebody said you used to walk around with
tampons in case you got shot. I swear a rappert
I ain't gonna say the rapper name, but I swear

(31:48):
a rapper told me that, yeah, in case you got shot,
you could put the sound like something like yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yes exactly. Who said I don't ever think I was

(32:09):
at the point where I was preparing. I said to
get pop to get shot, like I need a tampon,
dings like I got one for you. How you knew
it was him though, when you said ten years ago.
He's one of the guys that kind of met me
when I was, you know, on the rack you Got
You Got You Got Coming artists. He met me back then.
Ain't always he always tell people a funny story about

(32:30):
me being in a radio station with Gone, But it
wasn't on a stupid just like I damn never forgot
it I had on me in Atlanta. You know all
laws are different, so like we got absolutely you don't
have one on you now due Yeah, what would twenty

(32:50):
twenty one tell twenty eleventh thug? You were right, like
you saw all of this, like you saw you becoming
to mogul with the music. Yes, I guess people can
say even fashion icon. Yes, influencing the game with your
with your music. I was always good at that, like
influencing um dressing. I was like the big dog in
my hood, in my hood before rap I was sixteen

(33:12):
years old, like running the whole hood. So I always
liked I dealt with that my whole entire career. I
still want to go back to the past because I
want to talk about the Miffer young thug, because I
used to hear so much about you. I heard that
you was protecting the city of Atlanta basically after Katrina,
because it was people coming into the city. It was
robbing folks and like killing folks, and you was on

(33:35):
some like superhero of vengeance like protecting the city of Atlanta.
About me, I honestly don't think nobody told you that.
I promise you. I think you just think that like no, man,
now you can look that was actually right, though, New

(33:56):
Orleen boys, that's right. And it was right after Coatrina.
They had like list of people they wanted to take
out in the city and they was trying to store.
They was storing a few people. But it's just like
I wouldn't I never wouldn't, like look for nobody, and
they're like that. It just it ended up coming to
an hour. That's what I heard her. I heard you
was it was defense. It was her was all defense,

(34:17):
dogs on the front lines, protecting the city of at
This was before rap though. Yep. I'm only like eleven twelve,
just my first probably had my first gun and like,
but they said it was it was grown rappers coming
to you though, facts, how did that all sim it down? That?
It just over time? Like yeah, so many people had
ended up going to jail dealing with that. It was

(34:38):
probably like twenty people that got life sentences. Wow about
this this situation. When you look back on it, though,
you can understand why. I guess you can understand why
he was doing what he was doing because they were
just kind of like starving and right, I respect it though,
just growing up I don't respected that. Then I'm just like,
don't go away. Happen to your hood, don't care about
nothing that not about to do that, but growing up

(34:59):
like I would definitely did the same thing they did.
They actually actually didn't do anything wrong, and you didn't
do nothing wrong either by protecting it right, you think
in general, when you first started doing music, they were
pretty supportive of you. Yeah, I was already popular, butfore
I started doing music. At one point, I was popular
for being the youngest me in Atlanta getting shot shooting

(35:23):
people like I got shot. I think I was like
twelve thirteen my first time a shot. Damn what happened?
Are you don't feel like talking about? It was a shootout?
So just put up an our hood, roll down the window.
You know, it's so crazy. One of the guys, it's
my best friend. You hear a Rabbert two? Right? No? Oh,
okay twenty one. Now it wasn't him, though, it was

(35:45):
from his side of town. Now that's like, my best
friend's shotting. How does that happen? Like, how does that
transition to him becoming your best one of your best friends.
He ended up going to jail like three times. Not
for that. He can't ever go to Jeff or shoot me.
He ended up going to prison like three times though,
like doing like five years, three years, two years like that.

(36:05):
I think I just grew hard from him because it
because because of prison. I'm just like, just keep going
to prison. I can't even here this that ain't funny, man,
you like the joker forever. The other thing they needed
to say about it needs to be like yeah, I
used to get called like no, listen, he's like the joker.
I'm like a man, I'm actually warm hearted, Like I'm
really calum, cool, good hearted guy. I'm like hand zoned.

(36:29):
So I see like size of people that you probably
wouldn't see. I like the lesson and the fact that
you know you and you and homie is cool now though,
you know what I mean, because like a lot of
a lot of young ns can learn from that, Like
you don't got to always, you don't gotta be final
with your ops all the time, and they don't got
to start because like all this happened, like a few
of them got shot, a few of us got shot.
But now we're for in. So all that was for them.

(36:52):
Everybody jeopardized their life, everybody could have went to prison,
and it was about and then all right, we got
more with young thug when we come back, don't move.
It's the breakfast club more wanting. Everybody is cj Envy,
Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the breakfast club.
We're still kicking it with Yong Fog Yee. Well, you're
a very loyal person. So if somebody and your crew
doesn't get along with somebody, that automatically means you don't either,

(37:13):
right or how does that work? Did you try to
squash things? Yeah, yeah, I'll be the person to try
to squash because I just like, I don't know, man,
I'm getting older. I remember just like saying my mom
cry with my brother dad. I'm like, I just don't
want to see them about the crap brow people got
families too. Yeah, yeah, my mom probably go to sleep
five years straight my brother dad. You know. So I

(37:33):
just I'm older, So I guess I just think about
it any more. And you blessed, right, because a lot
of people don't. God don't give everybody that opportunity to
even have that type of reflection, right, They even look
back on it and be like, man, that was for nothing.
He overgave us an opportunity. Like a few times we
did a lot of dammy missions with millions dollars, did
a few stupid that could have got everything to think

(37:55):
about life without you. I think about all the people
that you provide for, all the people you don't putting on.
You don't help put him position. There's no you, there's
probably no gunn. It's probably no baby. Who know, right?
Thank god? That's that's the other story, the other story
that's true. Though, you gave baby money to get out
the street. The rap just going to the hood. He
liked money. If he can make five downs ten thousand

(38:17):
every day, that's the only way he'll stay out the hood.
If he can make them the same money that he's
making in the hood. Because he's just sitting in the hood,
he gonna make tenth downs twenty thousand every day, profit
or profit. What you see in a little baby back then,
because he was still in the street fresh, What did
you see in him back then? That said, nah, bro,
I'm gonna I'm gonna pay you to stay out the
screen and rap I was scaredful on him, like go

(38:37):
out to the jail cause he just did. Yeah, he
just did a bit. He got straight out of jail
and went straight back to the same neighborhood, the same
house that to pull that the police bust and locked
him up. He went right back to the same house.
It was a spot, you know. But I also he
was popular too. He was He reminded me of like
when I was before a rap, because I was popular
before a rap. He was poppling. He was popular too

(38:58):
for a rapper. He was like getting a lot of
likes on his Instagram and people like, oh, he got
like nice as captions. Just I'm like, yo, you should
try him make a song. Bro crazy just showing him
to life and like took him with me a few
times everywhere, and he starts saying like, oh damn, it's easy,
you know, because we got we grew up together too,
so it makes me feel like it's easy. If he's
seen me do he's seen me do every single thing.

(39:19):
He's just like, yeah, I could do it. But I
released the pages to go to the studio. How much
he said, five a day. We're getting like five down,
two down, three doctor. He was a young so like
I might be gone to late for three days, so
like here four thousand. But he's still hustling. He's still
getting really getting his own money. But he got Gamelon problem. Yeah,

(39:41):
that all Camling problem. He for sure lost ten times
more money than he ever had. Why not put him
on ysl L wasn't established back then, Yeah, it was.
I was dealing with a lot of like courts, I've
done them so much, and I'm like, I ain't bring him. Naw,
you just got out of prison. What the same? Like
man I got, I'm gonna tighten up. And I was like, man,
you know what, let's take it to my buddy man

(40:02):
Pe good guy, he's gonna focus. That's it. I mean,
that's an honorable though, just to bring him to p
and say I am it was literally signed to me.
Good you had you in the kind of same situation, right, Yeah,
he ended up going to prison. He probably like spent
so many millions of dollars finding the case just to
get the three of four years that he did. He

(40:22):
spent probably all of his mother money. So he just
like sold somebody's assets. You know what I'm saying. I
was just one of the assets. Okay, he's over to
the label. You know, it's it easier for you to
talk about things now that you're a little older and
things are more in the past because I noticed on
the album right you started off with Die Slow and
you tell some personal things. It sounds like you're just
having a conversation. So how hard was that for you

(40:43):
to make that decision to put that all out there?
It was hard because and it's only because I just
don't like people don't feel like they know me. I
liked it better when Charlemagne just was like, damn, I
wonder how he is right here? All these posed to
Oh he's a cool guy, you know, because I mean
it's dope though, because you have one perception to people
looking and you're throwing people love, like why are you
doing that? Why are you doing that? But then you're

(41:04):
hearing these stories and you're like, for real, So you
me personally, you gotta believe the screet right better. You
think Charlemagne back then, he wouldn't have saw me. I
know how to avoid people. I think it would have
been smoked or you think it would have came up
to him or anything like a conversation. I believe you.

(41:26):
I was really I was literally mad at you, and
I don't know why shoot you and give you a tampon?
Shut up? I don't They would have been no guns
in vote. We probably just got the argum like, no,
I probably did something, your man. I'm telling you I

(41:47):
used to get the calls they used to call me
like Charlottagne. I'm telling you that he liked the joker.
I don't like people trying to make it seem like
I'm just I'll just cite that on Crazy. I probably
it was. It was a woman that told me that.
And she ain't say like that. She said, he's a
great guy, the nice guy, but he's like the joker.
He'll be so nice and he'll check fire to the
town who told you to walk him? Mom? No no, no, no, no, no,

(42:09):
do somebody else. Yeah. Now you also said on die slow,
you're seeking god soul because you know something's missing. What
do you nigga missing? I just got a few problems
still in my life. They're not even that big. They're
just like they won't leave though, you know, And I
think it's because it's like you thought you got to
know good but not it hasn't been that good. You know,

(42:30):
it's not good enough to the point where he where
he's like a couple of real problems, you know, because
it's like, damn, why the hell am I still having
these problems. I got everything, my people got everything, everybody
got everything. I still got some problems, and that I
thinking just it's just like I need closer to guy.
You know the things that you you you're running from,
like things you're trying nothing to deal with internally. Maybe no,

(42:52):
I'm grown black. I deal with it off top. Whatever
problem might have, I deal with right then. If I'm
a cry, if I'm a bitch about it, if I'm
doing it that, I'll do it right now, as soon
as as soon as happen, as soon as I noticed
is a problem, I go ahead and deal with it.
Once I stopped crying or like feeling down about it,
I won't ever feel down about it. So I just
go ahead and deal with it. And the last time

(43:13):
you cry, maybe like a month and a half ago,
you remember for what? Of course, that's that's your business.
You an't gonna shit if you don't want to. But
why do you want to be on Done is so bad?
I saw you say that you are? You called me
so if I don't get on this album, it's gonna
be a problem. It ain't now I want to be
on it so bad. It's just like, bro, we got

(43:34):
a hundred songs, putting them mother songs. I feel like
you're a billionaire. Like you at the point where it's
like you don't need none of this. If I was
a billion if I was Kanye West or jay Z,
if I would just say I was jay Z or Kanye,
I probably would have I would have more features than
anybody in the world. If I'm at the point where
I can know me being on your song and make
it number one, I'm definitely getting on the song. That's

(43:57):
what I respect about Drake. Yeah, you all got that
number one song right now? Ain't genuinely do it? Way
too sexy? Was your concept? Though it feels like a
Doug song. Yeah, came to the studio like fresh who
like Bro, We're just in Steve talking, just like listening
to the beats, the beat come on and Pluto just like,
let's do sex. So we're just like free stating to

(44:19):
each other. Then it's just like it just came about
like that. I see you talk about the icons a lot.
You feel like they don't they don't reach out to
you the way you would want to. No, they don't.
They jam with all good people though I don't know why.
Maybe they want me to just figure it out and
just go through it, you know, so you can like
learn actually learning and like respect it. Or maybe it's

(44:41):
just like we're in the same league. I can't tell
you this most of the time. May be I can't
tell you I don't like that because I always spit
the beings le'n'a tell anybody anything that can help them win. Like,
but you're ain't different though everything that might have worked
for it may not work for you, right, But they
ain't even about like what to do. It's just more
about like being reminded or just feel in love. The

(45:04):
ogs are like hands on, you know, because that's our
young seen for like like ogs, they got their hands on.
You got Drake playing every boy the part to drink
like the industry og for a lot of people. Yeah,
I gotta put them right there Internet because of way
he's saying the songs or none of that. It's because
he with everybody upcoming artists the most. I got to

(45:26):
respect it. He just know, like I'm how to say
in the world, I can go number one, you can
become a superstar by me doing this song or happening
on your song. He actually know that and he do
it for those exact reasons. Holding everybody is DJ Envy,
Angela Yee, Charlomne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club
was still kicking it with young doge Elton John. You're

(45:48):
on his album right, So you and Elton John, Now
that's to me, that's interesting, all right, that happens. But
a fan, Yeah, that's all I'm saying. You can freestyle
better than m of course John like be a fan.
The first thing he ever said when that man was
when whopped it out? He said, he said, I'm not

(46:15):
a liar. Wow, Where did you meet him? Like, you
gotta tell us how that connection even happen. Sample when
you sample Rocket many I did a racket man. So
that's the first time we ever got in touch. And
he got a condo on Atlanta. So this is a weird.
This is a story, Damn. I wanted to sure, please
do tell it was a story about him his first lover. Now,

(46:38):
he met his first lover in nineteen ninety one in Atlanta,
that's the year I was born. And the lover name
was Jeffrey Wow right, and he helped him, like you know,
stop everything he was doing and just like become a
man and like it was just like a father figure
to him. But it was his, it was his, it

(46:59):
was his say it's partner. And he was a fan
of goucher Man, so he heard me, I don't want
to goucher Man songs. So he old schools so he
just like pulled everything about it about you up. Oh
let whoa whoa whoa nice one way from Atlanta. Oh
my god, what the whole background is the same as
this x y. So he just like just start paying attention.

(47:22):
But here a real fan. He really is saying the songs.
So he hit you up, like, yo, pull up, I
need to we need to meet and I'm in Atlanta.
Wow you you were tip um y'all, y'all had a
relationship before rap two, well before you was a rapper. Yeah. Yeah,
he talk a lot of stuff, but he's actually like
one of the realist guys in the world. That's what
I always wondered, Like, you know, it's hard for y'all,

(47:43):
right because y'all come from a certain environment, but then
y'all get to these levels and people don't necessarily may
know the background, so then you find yourself maybe having
to prove yourself sometime and this this rap game, right
that just stay out of the way because like sometimes
just chase you no matter how much you run, you know,
sometimes trouble just chasing you. Still. Yes, I've did enough

(48:07):
in my life to to where it probably chase me
for the rest of my life. Really, how do you
make amends for that? Just dealing with it? Like whatever
happened happens, made it bad, you know, lay it? Do
you try to course correct things now by doing things,
you know, like maybe pay off that karmic debt? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
I've been doing that for at least like the last

(48:29):
seven to eight years. You know, some people just like
you don't know me, so you look at me a
certain way. Anybody who knows me, you know, like, oh
he's too good and nothing probably wouldn't happen. Then he's
like a good guy, you know, just gotta just be round.
How much of Kevin Lives and Leo Cohen done for
you as a man and artists? Oh not much. They

(48:52):
gonna make your man Kevin Euso like here baby you
sometimes but like thew York he made man man. I
hated him one you really, but you used to be
with him though everything was just bad. My first deal
was bad. Just signed a deal and then no one
ever contact me, and it's just like coming in the streets,
I'm just like you know, and like I'm like, it's

(49:12):
just everything. It's just like you know, And then you're
trying to pop off and then you feel like you
old label. You know what I'm saying. You're like, I've
been signed to him for like two or three years,
but I don't even know nobody. I don't know one
person there but here a good guy. It took me
like nine months a year to forgive him good your dad.
So when you say forgiving what it's because of a

(49:32):
bad contract. Yeah, I just seen from his shoes. It
was like a brand new company. All he's doing at
that point is just signed an artist, Like I'm just
building the roster, giving everybody the same contract. And do
you think also, because like Charlomagne's heard all these stories
about you, people have heard stories about you, you think
that maybe they were intimidated to Charlomagne got the right

(49:53):
to be like, yo, I don't want to be around.
I feel like if me and you ain't head on,
like hey, we're doing some on each don't we see
each other. It's no way, that's you know, that's just Frank.
You're just framing me at that point. You know what
I'm saying as opposed to him. Of course we got
we had going on, like do we see each other,
it might be it might be up. You know what
I'm saying. I'm sorry for that too, Bro. I apology accepted.

(50:17):
I apologize anything I said that made you want to
kidnap me and tort me. Yeah, you said a lot
of bulls what I said. I really do be honest
with you. I don't even really be remember after that,
like you said, I was even looking this morning, like
I was looking gangs though the game. We ain't even
to come to the city. Gangst wouldn't know. They don't
make it out. I said that. I remember when you tweeted, um,

(50:42):
Breakfast Club is the Devil? I did ye? I think
that was after the Yeah, I guess you and the
game had a situation back then. Yeah. Then it's like
you started trying to do interviews or everybody I'll beefing with,
Like Doug, you don't interview with game game the game
back then, I mean even now, I mean listen, we would.
I would interview game now, but when I don't even

(51:04):
remember when that was twenty fifteen. He had albums and stuff. Man, man,
but I don't like to be one of them people
like you know, I'm if we if we robbed with you,
we robbed with you, whether you up, whether you're down,
like it definitely ain't about that because at that point
were bigger than me. But it was like it did
nothing for you. Now, I'm sure it did good on
YouTube and stuff like, Oh but you see, we interviewed
plenty people, man, right, but it wasn't nothing. It wasn't like,

(51:26):
let's interview games game. That's what I felt. I was
got them eighteen No, man, another was personal. I'm just
saying that we thought you were gonna come up here
and do an interview because I remember they kept being like,
would you interview thug? And I'm like, where he want
to come to the show. That's why I even now,
I was surprised. I always wanted to do this show too.

(51:47):
Always this one of the biggies shows. Y'all know, y'all
got it, Yeah, I got it. We always wanted you here.
I saw you, I saw you post one day. One
day you just posted my picture with laughing poaches like, man,
it's a random picture with laughing emojis. Well, you got

(52:10):
macmillan Juice World on the album two. He was close
to both of them or just j Yeah, I know
he's closed to Jews, both my brother. Did you have
a process like the depths of Mac and Juice? I mean,
you know, you you've seen people go before, but once
you're in the industry and you get industry relationships and
you see that, did you have a process that No?
I feel like I'm still running from Juice had a
bunch of music together, damn man. Yeah, so when you

(52:34):
hear it now, like, did it bring up all those
old memories and everything else? Yes, he liked being around them,
spent a lot of time together. Spent a lot of
time Mac too. I was with Matt the day before
he died. No, he's at my studio. We did this
the song on my album's So Crazy about coincidental. He
came to the studio, did a song on me the
next day he died, And the song that we did

(52:56):
at the studio the name of the song this day
before Wow. But the song is just about like like
women like that. Then they didn't want to Damn y'all
know what I'm saying. But it was like flamboying, like yeah,
before dagntate, Bro, do you do you go back and
think about that, those last conversations that last, those last moments,
and you didn't know that was gonna be the last moments.
But yeah, I think deep on that because it's like,

(53:18):
is that a sign? Have you ever just wished, like
God to just really talk to you? I feel like
I talked to him if that's why I do meditations.
When I meditate, I feel like He gives me the
answers and he just talking. It's real quiet. It ain't
as loud as the noise around you, like you know
you'll see you on TV, social media, people in your ear.
When God talk, it's like real quiet. He only gonna repeat.
He only gonna say it once or she I said

(53:40):
he or she That entity is only gonna say at
one time, like you know the right thing to do?
You very self away, thug right, and you have good intuition.
That's right. I can see that in you, right, good guy,
I'm really good guy. All right, Well don't move. We
got more with Young Tug when we come back. It's
the breakfast Club. Good morning Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the

(54:03):
guy we are the breakfast club. Were still kicking it
with young dog. When it comes to women, are you
a good guy? Here comes that tea? She's trying to
get that tea? Stuff? Do this what you mean? Women?
I mean listen, because listen to your music, Like you
have this one song where you like, um, what is

(54:24):
it you said? You said last night? And then I
can't get you out of this? Like, what is it
like for you? Are you single? Now? Are you still
in a relationship? Have you ever noticed if you always
talk about six that single relationship? I know what I'm
just saying. I got a whole podcast about it called

(54:45):
Little Service about Relationships and Sex. It's crazy. I always
noticed that the guys who are real usually treat their
women better than most. Right, So, do you think that,
as you are reflecting on anything everything in your life,
do you think that when it comes to relationships, that
you've been the person that you want to be, the

(55:06):
man that you want to be in a relationship. Oh
of course, no taking care of the house, making you
feel like your father. You know. The thing, the thing
you gotta do with women you gotta make them, You
gotta make them feel like you they father right, because
you want to feel secure. You also want to feel
like it something goes wrong, he's gonna be there to
take care of it. That's the first person you call
when something's going down. Are you trusting of women when

(55:26):
you're in relationships? I trust the girl that I'm in
a relationship with, but other women, no, I don't trust.
No down No, how hard does it get to get
to the point where you trust somebody like who you're with? Now?
How hard did it take? How long did it take?
You have your guard up, you have your walls up.
You never know what somebody's there for. How long was
that process? Oh? It was long. I loved it. I

(55:48):
loved its loan at our seconds? Well, don't my guard
came down so fast? That's your intuition. How do you know?
How do you know? How do you know what you're going? Then? No,
I just like went with the flow. I want to
go back to what you said about, you know, being
the father, because a lot of people he hear that
and try to misconstrue it, but it's it's true, like
men should be nurturing and we should be loving, and

(56:09):
we should be caring and protect us and provide us
like a father would. That's why I got four daughters.
When my daughter come to me and you know, to
man come to me and asked for one of their
hand in marriage, I want to make sure that he
can do all of those things right for her, Like
you know what I mean. So I understand what you
meant by that, right. What was the purpose of trashing
the rolls Royce? I don't know. I just wanted. I

(56:30):
wasn't I didn't, I wasn't feeling, I wasn't an album mode,
and I just was like, you know what, I want
to do something really cool. What did it symbolize for you?
It just symbolized punking rock rock star and just like, yeah,
it just means who calls it? Man? Hey, I bought
this same day? Man? What? Oh my god? Man? I
love the club. So you bought it? No insurance, no nothing,

(56:56):
but yeah, I know it's a it's a it's trash
at this point, did you buy it? Bye? Did you
least about it at least no more cut? Yeah? God
damn was it worth it? Yes? It was really fun.
I had hit the keys somewhere in the la though,
so whoever find the keys to have cate of car,

(57:16):
it still ain't drivable. Fix you get get at the parts.
It might you've got a hunt wow, but you definitely
can get it. Definitely can get fixed. It's only dance wonders. Yeah.
Let's talk about your relationship with Ja Cole and I
like when you guys work together, because some people in
their head might be like, what's that going to sound like?
But obviously y'all have a good relationship and been working together.

(57:36):
What are some things you learned from Jay Cole? Keep going,
keep believing, you know, because it got to a point
where you didn't want to hear like certain type of music,
and his music was that music. He just kept believing
and never stopped. He didn't he did. He always did
the numbers, but it was like he couldn't get catched
the right tour. He couldn't sell, you know, he just

(57:56):
kept going. I got that from him. If I'm the
guy he always he's always with his wife and his kid,
always every single day. Every dollar ain't good, That's true,
every dollar ain't good. Have you turned down some huge situations?
Of course, of course he's dollars was the last thing
you turned down. I think it was like three shows.
Somebody wanted to do three shows, but I wanted a

(58:17):
million dollars for a show, and they wanted to give me. Like, hey,
it sounds pretty good, honey, sounds pretty good, because then
that's your number. Yeah, yeah, I didn't like actually like
push it away. I did just enough to come back.
What's your relationship like now? With Wayne Loye. We haven't

(58:38):
been to studio a few times. We had a few
songs together, supposed to be working on this album. Man,
I told him, I'm like, bro, you know you're my Like,
we just need we just gotta do an album. Whatever
you want, you can have an album. I don't care.
Did you ever really dislike him or that was just
I ain't ever disliked him. You felt like he didn't
like you though, because he didn't shake I know you
said he didn't shake your hand when you ran into him.

(59:00):
And then a lot of people felt like you were
trolling him when you did the car it was the
card to six Yep, some corny to me, like trolling
then corny. I don't think I ever was trolling them.
I really wanted to be like him, but it just
seemed like I was trolling them. You know, did you
ever did y'all have that conversation? You and him? We
definitely had conversations, But do you remember that first when

(59:23):
y'all had after all of that, after all the stuff
that played out in the media. Yeah, it was. It
was easy to like, that's I know we are like
because it was. It wasn't even like a long conversation.
It was literally seconds, But I understood, I didn't. I
walked off not feeling a certain type of way. He
walked off, not feeling the sertain type of way. Who
put it together? Burd Man? Yes, wow, and it was

(59:43):
he said, it was seconds, like whatever, I'm sorry. Yeah,
I like black and that's all you needed. And y'all
have been doing songs. Wow, that's all that ever was? Yeah,
I think you just probably mad mad at Birders in
that picture with a little dirt. What was all that
computer man and ass dirt? He told me not to
ever ten no matter. We definitely wasn't looking at pro too.

(01:00:06):
What really definitely won't looking at pro too. So he's
he called you, like, don't ever tell nobody what we
was looking at. I asked him before, like, hey, you're like, nah,
I say less, how much do numbers matter to you?
Because I know your last couple of albums, but number one.
Obviously you have the song that's number one with Drake,
But when it comes to this album, which you know

(01:00:28):
could be number one. I know Meek was saying that
those numbers Billboard, none of that matters to him. How
much does it matter to you the same amount? It's
just numbers. It ain't about none of that. At one
point j Cole album was going number one, but he
couldn't see a theater, So do the numbers matter? That's true?
This dog. Have any regrets over the last eleven years

(01:00:49):
of your time in this industry not doing every single
thing that rolled out? It ain't too late, ever too late,
But that's something I regret. I regret getting into it
with people. I regret spend so much mother money on
what just material items like calls everything. We don't believe you, thug.
You just bought a call last week and beat up

(01:01:10):
on it for no reason. I regretted already. A week later,
you regret that's not even a week. A few days later,
you regret it already. I'll just seeing me in the
call that back. I said, oh my god, you think
you are hey thug man. I'm happy that you came

(01:01:31):
to the breakfast club, and it's good seeing your evolution
over the past ten eleven years. My brother, truly, man,
I apologize for anything I said that offended you in
the past. He was all younger and stupid and back then,
because I like seeing young black men get money and
you making other black men rich man. That's the video,
that's the beauty of it. They're not just getting money,
put putting other people in position. Gotta respect it well

(01:01:53):
so far because the album came out later than we anticipated,
you know, post Malan Stills doing it first. No, I
didn't know. That's why Man call me at twelve o'clock
like a mom was done. I'm like, oh my god,
would you mother just reached out to him to do
it then? No, he's just taking Is it gonna be
a deluction? Everybody does a deluxe with some songs that

(01:02:14):
they didn't have on their at first. You're gonna do
it deluxe? Also DeLux? They burned out. Now, I don't
be caring about them, you know, honestly, it's not once
I listen to you, if I like it. You know,
I'm gonna keep going back to it, but if I
listen to it, I ain't really put it the first time.
It's like I'm gonna go back toote exactly, exactly. Congrats,

(01:02:36):
young dog, appreciate you for coming. Brother Punked is out
right now. It's the breakfast Club. It's for Donkey of
the Day, being Donkey of the day, a little bit
of a mixed up so like a donkey the other day.

(01:02:58):
Now I've been called a lot my twenty three years.
That Donkey of the day is a new wife. Okayve
oh okay. Donkey of the Day goes to self Love ambassador, entrepreneur,
social media relationship expert Arthur. He's wrote books like Heil
Together Without Hurting each Other. He wrote another book called

(01:03:19):
Single Mothers of for Grown men only. And he even
wrote a book called A Cheating Man's Heart, a fiction novel.
I put fiction novel in air quotes because based on
all these new developments, it's safe to say Derek Jackson's
book A Cheating Man's Heart was probably based on a
true story. Now Derek has built a following basically calling

(01:03:40):
men out on their behavior, okay, holding men accountable, I'm
not mad at that he's done it to me. He's
done it to Little Duval, He's done it to Gilly
the King, He's done it to Isaac Hay is the third.
This is this thing, okay, holding men accountable, and I'm
fine with that. I had him on my podcast Brilliant
Idiots a few years ago, and on that podcast we
promised to hold each other accountable. Well, Derek Jackson is

(01:04:02):
your turn to be held accountable. Okay, let's just get
right to it. Derek Jackson is full of Okay, I
can't Curson. You know that? He say? Oh what, Yes,
he's full of that. Okay. He's a liar, a textbook
narcissist and manipulator who gets what he wants at the
expense of other people's well being. This is a guy

(01:04:23):
who will get online and say this about men who
have cheated. I have no sympathy for a man who
finds it to be difficult to be faithful after being
in a permission with lifestyle and neither sit. Nobody told
you to be permissionus before the relationship, and nobody made
you be monogamous, but just hurt. You don't want to
let another man have her and more times. I would

(01:04:45):
say nine times out of ten when the dude gets
caught cheating, that wasn't wasn't his very very first time cheating.
That was his only time getting caught. I agree with you, Derek. Okay,
And guess what. Derek Jackson himself is a cheatah Oh,
he just got exposed by a woman named Candice. I
can't pronounce her last name, but but Derek Jackson, who
was a married man, bought this woman to Atlanta to

(01:05:06):
stay in his house he shares with his wife and kids.
The woman Candice, who Derek was cheating with, actually took
pictures of her laying in the bed he shared with
his wife and there Atlanta home. Derek Jackson, who spells
his last name J A X And why I don't
know that bothers me. Jackson may be a slave name,
but when it comes to black people, it's one of
the greatest last names you can never have. Why would

(01:05:28):
you hack that? I mean, when you're talking Jackson, you're
talking Samuel l Janet, Jesse, Bow, Randy, Mehelia, and of
course Michael. But actually, I'm glad you don't spell your
last name Jackson because you don't deserve to be in
that Jackson power ranking. Okay, if you were, you would
be at the bottom right under Andrew. You know, Andrew Jackson,
seventh President of the United States, slave master Eth Nick Clints,
the Tyrant. If you actually spelled your last name Jackson correctly,

(01:05:50):
you would be at the bottom of the list, near
him because of the level of evil that you display. Yes,
my brothers, see what we're gonna do here today is
stopped the shenanigans. And see, my father always told me
that when you lie, you're not lying to nobody but yourself.
And I have watched you since this story broke, just
lie an attempt to continue to manipulate the public. I mean,

(01:06:11):
that's what you do. You manipulate people. You get online
and have these bad faith arguments, which is also textbook narcissism,
meaning you don't care about it. I even trying to
understand the people that you speak about. You said it yourself,
I don't have no sympathy for a man who cheats.
Not only do you not care or attempt to understand
the people you're talking about to have any sympathy or empathy.

(01:06:32):
All right, you are dedicated to deliberately misunderstanding and mischaracterizing
others to make yourself look good. You like to paint
other men as being dishonest and deceptive and morally corrupt.
Why because you're a narcissist, and that's what narcissists do,
project their bs onto other people. The reason you love

(01:06:53):
to paint men is dishonest, deceptive, and morally corrupt, it's
because that's what you are. See, Derek, I waited to
give you donkey because I want to see how you
would react to all of this. And you're reacted by
doing what you've been doing all this time, and that's lying. See.
I saw the first video you posted when you first
addressed the allegations. You said that you and your wife
were separated during that time, and that you and Candice

(01:07:14):
have had a sexual relationship without actually having sex. Listen,
I'm in screw it. Molde, ef it, molde. I'm hitting
up old chicks. I really don't care at this point.
One of those people was a girl named Candide. Now
here's the thing, So me and Candice have had a
sexual relationship without actually having sex. Fallacies, nonsense, word salad, lies, denying,

(01:07:36):
changing definitions. This is textbook narcissism, people lying about what
happened the now delusion, trying to confuse us, to make
us doubt the reality of the reality of the situation. See,
narcissists are often he'll equipped to have mature discussions or
resolve conflicts, but in their mind they are experts at it. Okay,
he don't even really understand what he's saying, but in
his mind he's being rationally reasonable incorrect. But the reality

(01:07:58):
is this nigga just lying in That's why what he's
saying don't make no sense. Okay, we had to sex
your relationship but didn't have sex. That's why it's just
an incoherent rant with no logic, because it's a lie.
Then hours later, hours later, Derek Jackson came back online
with his wife to admit that he did cheating, that
he was unfaithful to his wife. Listen to this guy.
The truth is is that Derek Jackson was involved with

(01:08:20):
other women outside the marriage. About involved, I want to
be clear, I'm not talking about just casually kicking it,
maybe a lunch or something like that. I'm talking about
that serious sex. First name, nigga, lasting name. Please Derek.
If nobody else has told you. What you did to
your wife was wrong, all right. She had nothing to
do with this. She wasn't with you when you was
out here cheating with these women, so she shouldn't be

(01:08:41):
with you when you're doing damage control. This story has
nothing to do with her. Nothing. And what sad is
you are more concerned about saving your business than you
are about saving your marriage. You are more concerned about
what we think of you than you are about what
your wife thinks of you. Kane, if you're gonna use
your wife as a human shield like Nino Brown us
that kid as a human shield in New jack City,

(01:09:03):
at least get her glammed up. Okay, you got her
up there looking like she forgot it was the second
part to the bust of challenge. I was waiting for
her to drop and come up fresh, but that never happens.
And guess what, you don't care. You didn't care about
the backlash she could receive. You be on social media
all the time. You know how cruel people are. Not
only did your wife have to heal from your infidelity,
now she has to heal from the bullying that she

(01:09:24):
is currently receiving online. But the narcissist like you don't
give a damn because your goal is a narcissist is
to dominate and be perceived as right at all costs.
Do you know the complex your wife is gonna have now,
it's impossible to not be impacted by what people say
about you online. Ain't enough God in Jesus in the world.
You can put on the whole armor of God and

(01:09:45):
God will protect you, but you still gonna feed into
what people are saying. And you could have protected your
queen from all that because she had nothing to do
with it. This is about you and your behavior. If
she forgives you, great, but that don't mean drag her
out and have her on your arm looking like a
damn puppet off Crankyakas and you the chief manipulated, controlling
all her movements. But that's what narcissists do. They deflect, attack, project.

(01:10:10):
That's why he had his wife there to deflect. Then
he started talking about John Gravey because Shade Room asked
him a question. You should have just ignored that, but
you can't because narcissists love to shift attention from what
they are saying and doing. This brother Derek Jackson went
so far as to deflect and blame Jesus. Listen, at
that point, I had a bee for God. I gave

(01:10:32):
my life to Christ, and my whole life fell apart,
my marriage fell apart. At this point, I'm not seeing
my kids and I really, honestly just went to a
place of effic It's the audacity for me. I've never
heard a person say I gave him my life to
God and now my life is left up. That's not
how that works, Derek. God told me to tell you
stop lying. Nigga. Okay, God, Jesus, the Holy Ghost, they

(01:10:52):
don't got nothing to do with your ways. In fact,
they told me to remind you that this is nothing
but the devil. That's who should be getting to blame here.
Of the devil and the devil's name, Derek Jackson, you're
the liar, You're the manipulator. You're the narcissist. Giving your
life to Christ. Didn't have your life up. You f
your life up because you live in a lie and
you had the nerve to blame God. You did the
same thing to Jesus that you did to your wife,

(01:11:12):
bought Jesus into it for no reason. But the reason
you do this is because you never truly have to
take responsibility for their toxic behavior. That's what narcissists do.
Narcissists do things like this. The only reason he bought
Jesus up is because he never truly wants to take
responsibility for his bad behavior. Derek, I decided to give
you donkey the day after what I heard you say

(01:11:34):
last night because it confirmed for me what I already knew.
You are a textbook narcissist like you need to be
studied see gaslight as Narcissists love to speak in the
third person. Why because it distances them from their actions.
Listen to this dude yesterday sitting in the car. Listen.
I hope he understands that all the accountability in the
world is not going to rebuild broken trust, not on
a personal level, and even with the public that he's addressing,

(01:11:55):
like even his most loyal supporters at this point will
probably have a raised I brought from this point forward
whenever he wants to condemn another man for something like this,
and rightfully so, so hopefully he understands that. Nonetheless, I
know some people will see this type of video. Even
though he's come forward and he's been completely honest, some
people are just going to close the book on Ding.
I'm more so on the side of his wife and

(01:12:17):
just basically letting this be a new chapter of how
I see him, because I do believe that his content
over the years has helped a tremendous amount of people.
You know, he tells the truth, He speaks facts and
quite honestly him And be real with y'all, I've needed
several new chapters in my own life. When gaslighters narcissists
feel that not enough people are praising them, they praise themselves.
Speaking a third person is a reassurance to the gaslight

(01:12:38):
of narcissists that he is worthy of adoration. Derek, It's
just simply time for you to shut the f up forever,
take a break. I know last year with COVID money
probably was type because you weren't getting book for speaking
engagements to show up the lot of people. And I
know you see your business crumbling before your eyes. But King,
just go get help. You need to do some real
soul searching, you need to do some real therapy, and
you need to fix what's wrong with you. Don't get

(01:12:58):
online that day trying to project the flect and attack
anyone else, prove to us that you are not a narcissist.
By shutting the hell up, I challenge you to disable
all your social media and go away for some much vanish.
I know as a narcissist you believe that you can
talk your way out of this situation. But no, because see,
if you don't stop now, I know where you're gonna
go from here. What's gonna happen is instead of really
taking responsibility for your actions, you're gonna continue to deflect

(01:13:20):
and start attacking other people. And that's when it's gonna
get bad for you, because right now it's just Candice
well Man. Oh man, there's so many women that are
ready to talk about how you tried to highlight them.
And if you don't stop while your ahead, it's gonna
get worse. And I know it may feel like you
can't get worse, but Derek, it absolutely can. Just go
away for a while. I know you got an extremely
fragile ego and shaky self esteem. You're gonna be online

(01:13:41):
looking for a handful of people who's still stupid enough
to support you. You're gonna be reposting them, retweeting them
to receive more false validation, looking for folks to side
with you and tell them that you are right and
good and blah blah blah. Well, you can prop your
wife up, you can deflect and attack others, blame others,
act like you're happily married now, and continue to use
this situation to promote that book of lies you have
on your website with you and your wife on the cover.

(01:14:02):
But since you the narcissists like to speaking third person,
let's end this with Derek Jackson giving a piece of
advice to Derek Jackson, let's public service announcement. Marriages are
make a man marriage material. See through the media and
sometimes firsthand experience. Marriage has been marketed as what it
could and really should be a long lasting, beautiful union.
But it's not a magic trick that wipes away of dudes.
Ain't the ways forever. You can go, get the prettiest

(01:14:22):
ribbon you can find and put it on a turd,
It's still gonna be a piece of marriage makes you married.
Loyalty is what makes you committed. I agree, Derek. You
can put a ribbon on a piece of and it's
still a piece of okay. And if you've proved anything
to us this week, it's that you sir, are a
piece of can you change that show? We all grow?
But you have to make a commitment to yourself and
not this idea of yourself that you have created online.

(01:14:46):
Please let Rimmy Mark give Derek Jackson the biggest he
haw he haw he ha. You stupid motherfar are you dumb?
All right? Well said, well said? All right, thank you
for that. Donkey to day. Well, don't move, Happy holidays.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Everybody

(01:15:07):
is DJ Envy angela ye, Charlemagne the guy. We are
the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building,
Montero Little Now. I'm a big fan of me. Man.
You gotta you gotta be. Why wouldn't you be outfit?

(01:15:31):
By the way, I'm pretty happy happy. Can we show
iPhones on here or something? Yes, of course, you guys
just turned up to down ninety degrees in New York today.
I know, but cold. It's cold cold. When you got
a cold cold, you can wait in the summer time.
But how's your spirit? Do you say you feel happy?
I'm feel happy. I'm having the best week of my
life right now. Albums out this week, Albums out this Friday, well,

(01:15:56):
let's this is the first time. You see, he was
supposed to be here a couple of times, but we
finally got him up there. So I want to stop
from the beginning, y'all, don't mind little nas X. How
did you come up with the name Little nas X?
Most people thought maybe your name was Nazi and it
was a short but how did you come up with
the name little nas X? I was like, how can
I still three rappers names? No? No, no, no, no, no,
like dad serious, I mean, of course, you guys know

(01:16:18):
about the account. I had the account, and I was like,
I wasn't gonna do music, like for real, for real.
I was just gonna post something because I was bored
and I was supposed to be doing some college work.
And I posted the song to my followers and I
was like, oh, every rapper name got little and you know,
a little Yadi LUUZI, So what if I was a
little nas ha ha ha? And I end up like
keeping it, you know, and then we add the X on.

(01:16:38):
Now you were at first you were you were barbed. Yeah,
well you're one of those barbs that really wouldn't people
like the barbs do really, the barbs are aggressive I'm
still barbed. Really, I feel like that's something. It's like
a cult. You know, once you're in it, you can't
really get out. Did you really tack anybody up like
Charlemagne me? Did you ever attack anybody? I think I
was attacked you guys a couple of times. Little transparency?

(01:17:02):
What made you switch to the government? Now the government?
What do you mean by that? My Taro, you got
my name. I didn't really squitch yet. I mean I
wanted to get my actual name out there. And people
still think it's like a fictional world that I just
made up. But yeah, you know, there's a true that
your mom named you after the car. My mom the
car because she wanted to lay the car. Yeah yeah,
and now she probably don't even wanted them more. Now

(01:17:22):
you can afford it, and she don't even want that,
no Subishi. I mean, I feel like that would have
been cool too. All my Spanish friends think I'm like
Spanish or something, So I mean that's fired. So do
you understand when people troll you? Because you trolled people
and like we had those accounts, does it make you
more like, Okay, I don't take it as seriously because
I know I was in that position when absolutely, I

(01:17:44):
feel like that's that's why a lot of absolutely, I
feel like that's why a lot of just rolls off
my sleeves. Yeah, you handle it well when people go
at you. You handle it really well, which is surprising
because most artists they can't handle it. You see them
break down, you see them getting into Definitely do breakdown sometimes.
I'm not gonna lie, but I'm never gonna do that publicly.

(01:18:07):
What do you do when you break down? You got
a therapist. You gotta like something that grounds you. You
try to get a therapist one time, right, and then
like the concept of like I actually cried to the
lad the first session and nothing wrong. Then she text
me about the payment and it's just like damn, it's
like so the money, how much it was like two

(01:18:31):
hundred something? Probably overcharged me. I didn't know. You didn't
go back after the first time. I didn't go back.
And I feel like I don't really need therapy. Honestly,
don't say that I don't. I just me personally. I
feel like everybody out there gonna get therapyle feel you
need it. I don't feel like I need therapy because
I feel like i've always been like my own like
self healer. You know, you think always though, like when

(01:18:51):
I listen to a song like sound Goes Down and
I know that song is inspirational for a lot of people,
but you pour your heart into that, and you even
talk about since you were ten years old just having
these feelings. So sometimes I think we don't even know
the effect of what our childhood was, like what is
going to have on us later? Like it comes up,
but you have to identify that by I mean, I've
never done therapy, but I do feel like I'm really

(01:19:15):
good at expressing myself and having a good support system. Wait,
what's the question? I was talking about the song Sound
Goes Down, right, and how you express yourself on that
and just things you went through as a child. Do
you feel like sometimes those things do come back up?
Though they come back up, but I feel like I'm
able to recognize them and then make things easier. You know,

(01:19:37):
let maybe say, Okay, I can react to this differently now,
you know, And I also just remember like we all
experience the same in different ways, like no matter how
bad it may seem, and it's like just being okay
with that, you know, it happens in life, We're going
to have a lot of happened to us over and over.
It's gonna be a lot of bad parts, a lot
of happy parts. And I'm just I'm here for it all.

(01:20:00):
I'm glad you went to therapy early. You know what
I'm saying. You're a twenty two Yeah, I'm twenty two. Yeah.
You know I didn't go till that. I was like
thirty six, you know what I mean. So you know
I'm packing all those years of baggage. I love it.
I go once a week, absolutely, go once a week. Still,
I'm going for five years, five six years. I love it.
I love it, go back one day. I don't understand
why people are so mad about things that you do.
You know, people are just really easily angered at things

(01:20:23):
that they already don't like. You know. It's kind of
like how people cancel people that they already didn't like.
I never got to cancel the artists that they love.
That's right. You feel a pressure to outdo everything you've
done before, Like I got to outdo old Town role,
and I gotta outdo the VMAs like you do. You
always think like I have to outdo it. I feel
the pressure to always just make sure I'm doing my

(01:20:44):
best on whatever I do. I know I'm gonna outdo
like over and over it, and it's just like not
like feeling cocky, but just like like knowing that. You know.
That's how I feel like manifestation works in the first place,
Like you gotta believe that and feel it. So, yeah,
is there a time you plan to do something and
then you change your mind You're like, Nah, that might
be too far. Yeah, I mean, I'm pregnant right now,
so I feel like I definitely have those moves. I'm secondly,

(01:21:08):
my stumming right now. What's what's different between this success
you're having now and the success you had with Old
Time Roll. This success, I feel like I'm much more
in control of, you know, and I'm making my calculated
moves in the way I feel I need to make them.
And I feel like anybody that's pissed off or the

(01:21:30):
exact people that need to be pissed off, you know,
because nobody could have predicted the success of Old Town
Roll like that, nobody around you, not even yourself. So
what happens when you end up with the biggest record ever?
I mean, what happens is you know, you go on
you go on the barbershop show, and Charlotte Mage' is like, man,
what's you're gonna do? Right? And he's like he's like
they count you out, man, And I'm like okay. And

(01:21:52):
then you know, you just work on yourself and you
come back out like a flower, you know, you bloom,
drop some songs and videos and you make the world
shake a little bit. That's what I see, though. I
remember when you did this shop, you didn't see him
as free as you do now. Like when I look
at you now, I can tell like this young man
is really free, he's really comfortable. You didn't seem that

(01:22:12):
way back then. I guess I wasn't because it's a process,
you know. And I'm still like it's a steady thing,
you know, throughout our whole life. I guess I'm just
further along now than twenty nineteen. Did you ever think
he was gonna be a one hit one day? Or
you ever did that ever cross your mind? That never
really crossed my mind. The only time I never crossed
my mind is if I had a bad day. Now,
I was already like feeling like these like self deprecating

(01:22:34):
thoughts or whatever. Did you ever feel like Old Time
Roll was bigger than you? Yeah, definitely, I think so. Yeah. Absolutely.
We had moved with Little nas X. When we come back,
don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning Morning. Everybody
is DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlemagne, the guy we are
to Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Little nas

(01:22:54):
X with all these orders you have, Yeah, making a style,
you know on the album Jack Harlow, that was your
cat Doja Cat, Molly Cyrus. Do you ever reach out
to an autist or you have to feel hesitant to
reach out autist like dam I don't know if he's
gonna say yes or no at all. Nicki and Drake.
You reached out to Nicki and Drake? Yeah, no reply
from Nikki. Drake was still work a ball. Didn't you

(01:23:16):
sland it Nikki at one point too? At one point?
I've never slander Nikki. Okay, okay, okay. I don't know.
There's like a lot of things going around, but I
don't respond to any episode. It's like respond to any
other because he's just going to keep being brought back
up because Nicki a whole grudge. I feel like the
only time I would slander Nikki is if if I
was like on the standing and I was like, I
thought Nikki was supposed to be going live or like that,

(01:23:37):
like there's no actual Slender. Drake didn't reply at autim.
Drake replied, um, and he was still working on Certified
lover Boy and whatnot. And he was one folks on
that this is like a few weeks ago, and I
understood completely, and he said, you know, he's down to
do something, but just not the right time. You're trying
to get his own together. Was there a particular song
on this album that you wanted him on? I wanted

(01:23:59):
him on dos shign Slime. I was gonna ask you
about that record because slime is gang slang. And I
was like, Na's in the gang, Nah's banging? Next question,
are you banging Montero? So what what the Dallas sign
slime mean? Dollars? I'm still Dallars signs slime. I'm the
same dollar sign slime because I feel like slime is

(01:24:22):
like grown like this overall, meaning like it has become
like a super popular word, like everybody just called they
free slim, and I know like it came from thug
and whatnot came from Noriega, the rapper Noriega og rapper
that hosts Drink Champs Now definitely started to popularize it,
though moll Nori popularized for his era and then Yeah
but Thug to this era Yeah and doll sliz Slime.

(01:24:45):
It's it's basically just like I'm the same Doll sign slime,
Like that's the hook, but it's like I'm the same
you know, I'm still him, I'm still that guy, so
you banging. Wow, that's the headline that he's in the gang.
Being in a gang. Not Dead to me is my
favorite record on the album right now Dead right Now,
I'm sorry sounds very very, very very personal, which sparked

(01:25:08):
that record. Um, I feel like we were getting really
close to finishing the album and then I was still
working on music. I mean, I'm always working on music.
And it was something about those horns. I was like, damn,
this like some Drake jay Z is kind of but
I guess a little bit more poppy or whatever, and
I was like, let me try to give like some
real insight on here. Yeah, and that's what I did.

(01:25:28):
You know people in your life that are that are
dead do you? Basically? Yeah, like people who were dead
to me. I guess nobody's ever really one hundred percent
dead to me. But it's like some people you just
want to disconnect from. Yeah, do you feel a pressure
of I see it with all the time. Parents would
be like, you know, you have a responsibility because kids
are watching. Me had that CARDI b had that same problem,
and Nikki had that same problem. Do you feel that

(01:25:49):
same way? Like, I don't know, I feel like I
used to, but now just like like your kids, not
like your kids exactly what you just said, but like okay,
but like I just gave them another headline. Okay, what
agenda is that? The kids agenda? It's like, um, we

(01:26:10):
really get one one chance to do this, at least
to my knowledge. I don't know, like what happens when
we die or not. Uh So it's like I'm not
like about to pender to your kids or you like anybody,
like even I have even have to do this with
my family members, you know, like because my family members
may not always agree with what I'm doing or like
whoever I'm dating, Like they may not agree, but it's

(01:26:30):
like I honestly really truly want to live by you know,
this is our life we can do this. So what
anybody else has to really say about it? I guess,
you know, I would say, when it comes to the music,
just tell people. That's the reason there's a parental advisory
sticker that too. On on on the music. Did you
see the YouTube kids thing? I don't know if you
saw that. It was like a lady she's like she

(01:26:51):
like searched up music for babies, like industry baby popped
up and she was like surprised, like you looked up
baby and music, Like what do you what do you
expect from that? And your dad was a gospel singer. Yeah,
he's still sings too. He's actually on dad right now
in the background vocals. Oh that's dope. Yeah, So he

(01:27:11):
did he know? Like I know you've said that you
knew since you were five years old that you were gay,
and you know how a lot of times your family knows,
but you just had feel like it's possible that he
could pick up on stuff. I mean, I was super
reserved though, So I guess I hate a little better
the art of realization breakdown what that is. It's kind
of like a lot of times I think, like what
am I doing? Is this for me? Like am I

(01:27:33):
Am I really happy doing this? Or am I trying
to impress everybody? And then like I basically on that,
I'm basically coming to the realization that, yeah, this is
for me, this is why I want to do. I'm
sure if I'm sure if it you know? Are you though?
I am sure? Because I saw you tweet that you
love pissing people off? That was a control tweet on it.

(01:27:54):
That's my thing. So what would you call would you do? Trolling? Marketing?
What is it? It's all of it, that's all of
It's trolling, it's marketing. It works. What have you realized
about yourself in the past couple of years when you're
when you're alone in Montero, just by himself and it's
just him and his thoughts? What have you realized about yourself?
I don't know. I feel like I figured out a

(01:28:15):
lot of honestly, because I spend a lot of time
in like solitude and like doing a lot of self reflecting.
Like I'm so I'm really aware of myself and like
a lot of my hypocritical actions and whatnot. Would you
all have like what we're human? Actually? Just like I mean,
do you know how I am in my music video.

(01:28:35):
You my video is a much more like sexual and whatnot.
Ain't know how I used to be. It should be
happy that people be like, oh, he's not like those
other gay people like oh, flamboyant and whatnot. And it
was like, that's not a compliment. You know, these people
have been taught like this is not okay, and it's
grown into that mind that that's stuff when it's not
that deep. So you want to be what you're saying,

(01:28:57):
You want to be flamboying in the videos on purpose?
Just to what are you saying? It said. It's saying
like I want the videos to be entertaining, and whether
you like it or not, like seeing men like do
different things and what men always do, it is much
more entertaining and actually enjoy it, you know, I mean
you should. I mean I look at it as you're

(01:29:17):
who you are, so you're living your truth. How can
you be mad at an artist for living their truth.
That's what he likes. I like it. Yeah, we have
more with Little nas X when we come back. Don't move.
It's to Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the Breakfast Club. Everybody
is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Chalomagne, the guy, we Are

(01:29:38):
to Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Little nas X.
Chalomagne did in the country community to give you backlash
when Old Time Road Frost came out. Yeah, And what
do they think now, because they must feel like I
actually a lot of country artists have been showing me
a lot of support, and I mean people. I don't
know what people may think, but I am still going
to probably get back to doing some countries music or

(01:30:00):
and I mean because I like different genres of what
and I like making a lot of different music. So
what's the country you were you a country listen? Did
you listen to country or what? Just job? It was
genuinely like I saw like one of these like country
trappis kind of songs. I was like, damn, what if
I did that but better? And you know that's what happened.
That's how I felt listening to the new album. I'm like,
I have no idea what genre in music Little Nonex mix.

(01:30:22):
I just categorize this pop now, you know, But I
do I do a lot of Now, what advice is
Elton John giving you? Because I always hear about Elton John,
you know, putting his arm around certain individuals and giving
them real o g advice? What advice is giving you?
What advice is Elton giving me? Oh? You know, he
pretty much just giving me like the you know, keep
doing you be yourself and whatnot. And he probably told

(01:30:44):
me some other things. I can't remember right now, because
Jesus Christ, I don't remember what John told you. I
haven't told a lot of people. Job. So who do
you Elton? Who do you respect? Like? Who do you
hear from? And you it sticks to you like when
you hear it sticks to me? Maybe not, maybe because
we haven't talked in person. Well we've talked in person,

(01:31:06):
but not about that. But like I literally sometimes look
up like Kanye motivation videos whatnot, because Kanye is outspoken
is and even though that may not always come out
you know, great or whatnot. I love that And I
wish I wish everybody was like that, you know, I
want to be more like that. You know. The thing
about Kanye that's so interesting. For whatever reason, Kanye is

(01:31:26):
allowed to make mistakes, Like the culture treats Kanye the
way we should treat everyone. He's allowed to make mistakes
for some reason. He set that up for himself, you know,
because he's always he's never going back on it. You know.
He's like, I said that it's done, let's move on,
and people like damn and people yeah, tells of Dominica.

(01:31:47):
Tells Dominica, what's that about? And he's from there and
didn't even Yes, my father is half but half here.
But the problem is my dad doesn't really know his dad,
so he don't know that side. Tell her. Domenica's like
from a point of view of when I like first

(01:32:07):
started making music. You know, I'm writing kind of like
I woke up on the floor of the plastic bed,
you know, I was on a mattress at my brother's house,
and you know, there was like a lot of like
domestic violence, like they were always like fighting with their
girls and whatnot, and you know, randomly like can shooting
up into the sky and I was just like that
and this is a lot of chaos. Signet back, Yeah,

(01:32:31):
And it was like, you know, talking about how I
didn't want to go back to home, you know, because
I know my step mom was just going to like
kind of hit on me. And it's because she wanted
the best for me, I guess. And it's kind of
this name tells up Domenica because I feel like Dominica
is like that beautiful place. You know, he doesn't know,
he's never been there. He's not talking about Dominican Republicans
talking about Dominica right now. Yeah, people automatically think is

(01:32:54):
Dominican Republic. You don't even know how to pronounced it.
I actually to tell have you been there? I haven't.
It's just like I've seen like pictures, so it's kind
of it's kind of like a tales of this beautiful place,
but it's it's like the worst part of my life
at that point. You know, Yeah, well you killed it
at the met Galla. I want to say that you
had my favorite looks by the night because I think

(01:33:15):
like taking risk in fashion it's so important, and I
think I love the way that as far as your packaging,
like your persona, your music, and the way that you perform,
but also the way you dress is so important for
you too. Are you going to do something like maybe
in passion? Absolutely? I feel like when someone can focus
on it and like only that because I feel like

(01:33:36):
a lot of times people like hops grated to something
they don't really really even give a fuck about it,
and I don't want that to happen the same like
with movies. It's like only be in movies one day,
but I want to be like dedicated to that. I'm
so mad you passed up you for ye that would
have been I love that show? Why did you pass before?
I love you for you? I have to I have
to finish my album, you know, and I have to
start getting ready to drop singles and you know, I

(01:33:57):
mean I wouldn't have this year without that, right, those
are hard decisions to make. Last song on the album
is and my Dreaming? Do you do you feel like
you're dreaming right now? And my dream and my dreaming?
Oh yes, look at those butterflies. You've guys missed it.
But that's like that's the theme of the album. Um um,
do I feel like I'm dreaming all the time? Yeah?

(01:34:18):
You got it? You got you got a d D,
don't you do? I I think I may have it.
You definitely was the kid that did not keep still
in class. Definitely possible. Now the baby is due Friday.
To watch your birth video. You did a birth video?
Yeah you know who did that first Cosby show? You

(01:34:41):
ever seen that episode? I've seen the pictures of it.
When people were like having a discourse. All the guys
were pregnant, and they all gave birth to things that
they loved. So some gave birth to sandwiches, some gave
birth to cars, some gave birth to ships. So your
idea isn't that original. I feel like I did it better.
I mean, I love I love the Cosby Show. Though, wait,
can we say that, yes, Cosmo made millions go to

(01:35:05):
wabbing his knees, Like, did I just get canceled? Do
you respect for artists when they go actually, when they
take it out of music and say the things that
you do, do you lose respect for those artists? Which artists,
whether it's TI or Boosty, I still bump TI. I
mean I was listening to Boosting the club. I don't
really care. Honestly, I feel like I wish they didn't

(01:35:26):
say it. I guess, but I like the music. I'm
gonna listen to the music. You know, if somebody's gotta
beef for me, don't mean I have to beef for them.
You know, does it ever occur to you how you're
really breaking all these barriers for people? Like there's a
lot of different things, even just being in country music
or being in hip hop and being who you are
and unapologetic about about it. Does it Do you ever
think like, damn, I'm doing things that have never been

(01:35:47):
done before. Not really, because I feel like everything has
been done before it in some kind of way, and
it's just always different ways to do it. I guess well,
I think it's dope that people see it that way. Yeah,
keep doing your thing, man. I like I like the
way you don't give, and I like that you're truly
being yourself. I like the fact you you're clearly free.
I appreciate it. That's right, little nas X. It's the

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