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May 23, 2023 101 mins

Today we are joined by Congressman Jamaal Bowman to discuss bail reform, Marjorie Taylor Green, The Rap Act and more.  We are also joined by our celebrity guest host Jess Hilarious. Finally we open up the phone lines to discuss a question that was sent in to Jess.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning in Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo
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yo yo yo.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yo yo yo God peace to the plane.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
It is Tuesday, and we have just hilarious here with us.
She's not our special guest, so she doesn't want to
be called a special guest. She don't want to be
called the special guest.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Just a special co host, just a special removed guests. Okay,
all right, yeah, like it is groovy, groovy, that hands hilarious.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I got a haadcut. That's why yesterday I ain't had
no haircut. That headline was right here yesterday. You know
what I mean.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
But she looked nice.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
She looked yes.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
Skin glow.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
You ain't about the skin.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
I know your skin is mad glowing. You know it's
always pretty.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Not no vac. That is doctor Nataja Sandy polished product.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Baby right Okay, And look I can only vouch for
it because I just recently visited her. Got my chemical pill.
I'm getting my skin, my skin done. But listen, you
you should have prepped me a little bit more. Natasha
Sandy sane to be played with. I walked I walked
in there, right, and she was like, you smoke And
I was like, yeah, what's up? And she was like,

(01:12):
what do you smoke out of? I was like backwood.
She was like, yep, I can see it all.

Speaker 6 (01:15):
Leave it.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
I said, Yeah'm gonna watch somebody else that's this. Yes,
she will look at you and she can pick apart
your face literally and see what you're doing, what you're
not doing. She said, you eat way too much dairy.
All of a sudden, like damn, she was reading my
life and that's the first time somebody ever read me.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
And it was true and backwards.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
What it is.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I just want you to smoking backwards with dary smoke them.
No more papers.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
That's not a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, Well she got she got a bag full of
bag full of cannabis this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
So good cannabis, that's right, So she's good this morning. Okay,
all right.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Now who got joining us this morning? We had the
brother Jamore.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Bowman, Congressman Jamal Bowman. You probably seen Congressman Jamal Bowman
lately in the news. He got into it with a
congressman from Kentucky over guns. He got into it with
Marjorie Taylor Green last week over. I don't even remember
what they was all getting over. We'll talk to him
about a whole bunch of.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, we got a lot to discuss. And then Lebron
James Lakers are out. Do you watch the game?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
No, that game beyond too late. I watched the first half.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Watched the first half, and they were up by but
twelve in the first half, had like thirty in the
first half, thirty one in the first half. Yeah, so
we'll discuss that as well.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I say, you might retire. I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
He said that last I said, I don't think so, though,
I think he wants to play.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, with his son, gonna be in the league til
twenty four, two years. It's a long time. He's thirty eight.
He's still dropping forty eight though. That's a long time
when you thirty eight.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Still dropping forty eight though, been in the league twenty years.
All right, Well, we'll get tell all that when we
come back. Front Page News and Tesla and figure Out
will be joining up.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
So don't move.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Owning everybody. It's DJ
Envy Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Jess
hilarious is he?

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Of course?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
And let's get in some front page news now. I
want to start off with the homie Carmelo Anthony. After
nineteen seasons, Carmelo Anthony has decided to retire from basketball.
Six All Star games, he averaged twenty four point seven points.
He had a total points of ten thousand, just amazing.

(03:30):
The only thing he was missing was a ring.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
What happened? Man got caught it in reading like Jess.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Now, I was just looking at I was just looking
at all his accolades, and I wanted to make sure
I didn't miss anything that you know that he did
of from the Olympics to everything or I just wanted
to make sure I wasn't missing anything.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
But the only thing he didn't get is a ring.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I mean, Mello wanted the best to ever do it.
One of the greatest offensive players we've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Absolutely now question who should retire his jersey?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Uh, the Nicks and the Nuggets.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
He was number fifteen, the Nuggets and jokers number fifteen.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
That ain't happening.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
They just have to put something in the raptors that
that ain't that number fifteen is only going up with
a joker.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
You ain't got worried about that now.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Also, the Ellie Lakers was sent home. Yesterday, the Nuggets
beat the Lakers one thirteen, one eleven. They swept the Lakers,
and this is what Lebron said after the game.

Speaker 7 (04:17):
I might have to say it's a successful year because
I don't play for anything besides winning championships at this
point in my career, and I don't. I don't get
a kick out of making a conference appearance. I've got
it a lot, and it's not fun to me to
not be able to be able to be a part of, uh,
you know, getting to the finals. But but let's see,

(04:40):
we'll see what happens going forward.

Speaker 8 (04:42):
But I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (04:44):
I had a lot to think about, to be honest.
I had a lot to think about, to be honest,
and just for me personally going going forward with the
game of basketball, a lot to think about.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
I don't think Lebron James is the greatest player of
all time like some of y'all, But if you want
to argue to on down, I'm fine with that. But
man is absolutely one of the best to ever do it.
So to me, this loss doesn't help our hurt his legacy.
Like like he said, he's been to the Western Conference.
He's then conference finals a bunch of times, Conference finals
a bunch of times.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Oh you know, it don't help our hurt his legacy.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
To me, I do think he's gonna stay two years.
I think he wants to play with his son, and
I think he's that's his goal.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well, he said he contemplated. We cut it off, but
he said he's contemplating. He said he has a lot
to think about in regard his future in basketball.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
And to all the kids out there that's listening. You know,
Joker was second round pick. He was picked forty fourth,
so there was like forty four teams that had the
option to pick him and pass didn't think he had
what it takes.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
And now he's probably one of the best.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
And he's badly built, dropping the clues bombs for all
the badly built people out there. Man, badly build people
don't get enough credit, you know what I mean, And jokes,
he's representing for all the badly built humans on the.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
On the planet.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
What's your man?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Hold up? You need a BBL. He needed a.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Man, Yeah, he needed BBL. But he's said, one of
the best in the league by far.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Tests and figure out.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Let's jump right into his Senator Tim Scott.

Speaker 9 (06:05):
Yeah Tenator Tim Scott of South Carolina announced Monday that
he is seeking the Republican nomination for president in twenty
twenty four. Now, before the senator pitched his vision to America,
his voice pitch was actually trending on Twitter about how
he started the speech. Let's take a listen and listen
to what he had to say about America and oppression,
and we'll talk about it on the other side.

Speaker 7 (06:25):
But also in the words of Tim Scott or Uncle Timmy,
he also gets his all for.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
The great state of South Kacka Lackett.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
What the hell was that?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
A living proof?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
But America is the land of opportunity and not a
land of oppression.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Let's go South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Chauton, ain't four to three what we're doing dropping the
clues Bob in South Carolina.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Then at South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Don't like anybody back in the day, we might have
used to say that, I don't say so, calculating I
don't like it.

Speaker 9 (07:05):
Well, a couple of recaps of the speech. Just quickly
he went on to say that America was not a
racist country. He said, no CRT more you know, more
CRTs and uh more ABC, no CRTs and more a
b c's uh he said, refunding the police. And also
there was a moment where his mic went off. He
was about to tell another lie about what America was
not and the mic shut off for maybe close to

(07:27):
a minute. Uh So the speech was very interesting to
watch and in regardless if I agree with his views
or not, I'm just gonna be honest with you guys.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
He is not an order.

Speaker 9 (07:37):
I mean it just it was just a lot of
awkward moments. I don't know if they spend a lot
of time rehearsing or not rehearsing or what. But it's
going to be interesting to see if you know, how
he proceeds.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Uh during this time.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Sator Tim Scott brings it after the breakfast club, is.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
He gonna come?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Well, you know him and him and Marco Rubio, they
was on zoom with us one time during COVID.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
They that through during cod COVID.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
But you know I told him that, you know, you
run up for president, you need to come up here
and I'm talking to the people. I'm sure you will.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
All right, Well, that is front page news Tesla will
see in a couple of minutes. Absolutely everybody else, Get
it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one
oh five one. If you need the vent phone line
to open again, eight hundred five eight five one oh
five one, call us up right now, get it off
your chest. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Wait,

(08:30):
this is your time to get it.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Off your chest.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
We want to hear from you on the breakfast Club?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Hello, who is this.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
Man?

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Load it up?

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Get it off your chest?

Speaker 10 (08:45):
Man already had told about my from like, yeah, change.

Speaker 11 (08:55):
The game.

Speaker 12 (08:59):
About this.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Man?

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Is older, Bro, he doing himself.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Hey, I love what you just said. Though he's no,
he's know Michael Jordan Kobe. As long as we can
say that that, we can have any conversation.

Speaker 12 (09:14):
But you don't change the game though, bro, Like he's
his own. But he changed the game.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Then, But why do we act like somebody like like
but listen, I'm with you, But why do we act
like somebody like Lebron not supposed to have hats with
all Lebron's success comes those credits.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yes, he's saying why I gotta be you. I'm not
a Lebron hate Okay.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
I just don't got to miss my greatest of all time.
But I acknowledge him as the top five great all
time great He's definitely one time.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
He's definitely one of the greatest. I mean the fact
that he's thirty eight years old, scored.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Forty eight last night. He leads the NBA in scoring.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
He has an amazing assist record, amazing rebound records.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
He's something that we haven't seen before. But listen, here's
the thing.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Somebody like Lebron James is supposed to have haters. If
you don't have no critics, you don't have no success.
When you with all that ultimate success is gonna come
ultimate hate.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
That's just the way the game goes.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
I even like the Space Jam. Everybody was like, but
he ain't really do you want too far?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Ain't you good?

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Well? Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan wasn't exactly Denzel Washington in
the first one.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
What are you gonna like? What you mean?

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Space Jams?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
All right?

Speaker 11 (10:23):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Who's this? Hey?

Speaker 12 (10:25):
Hello from George in the morning. I just want to
follow up from yesterday. Say, NB, I appreciate everything you do. Welch,
it's a freaking fool. I don't like him, but saying
nothing about you? All right, Well, thank you brother, than
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
If you pleasing, bro, just talk about thank you?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Hello?

Speaker 5 (10:48):
Who's this yo?

Speaker 12 (10:49):
What's up?

Speaker 13 (10:50):
It'd be this you boy?

Speaker 14 (10:51):
Dingo?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Digo? What up?

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Dingo?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Can't go? Bluie brother?

Speaker 12 (10:55):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (10:56):
What's good?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Sean?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
How you doing that?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Blessed Black? And Holly Favor? Say? What's up to? Jesse? Alarry? Jeff?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
How you doing?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
I'm good baby? Thank you?

Speaker 15 (11:03):
Oh you are still beautiful?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yes, I do think.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I'll be seeing these comments. I'm like, y'all, y'all wild
on Jeff. Y'all love just so much.

Speaker 13 (11:13):
Look, I can't help it. That's fine. You know the
comedian i've ever seen, thank you about when she gets
talking with don't know how to say peas and all that.
I'm telling you for.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
That, okay, all right, that's what you're called for. What's t.

Speaker 16 (11:40):
Bro?

Speaker 13 (11:40):
First off, I gotta tape, I said to y'all for
y'all should happening, y'all mail please check for it. I
appreciate it. Also, you gotta love to me. I'll got
a Boston bro, I don't know what's going on, but
Lost this fasher who knows. But it's getting not for
real like this dude Wilder is throwing too much envy.
Understand you were burgal like me. So we're gonna go in.

(12:01):
But I just see the baby take a step back,
beat a bigger man and just you know, because he
on some weird stuff. Though you in a whole different level.
I don't want you to stoop down to Lost no more.
You just taking take it easy?

Speaker 17 (12:14):
How come?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
When I said, is how you need to pick a side?

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Said it's the delivery us.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
When I said, Chyl, you're pick a side? You know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yes, take a step back, Brothers breathe, you know what
I mean. We don't need nothing of this. Nobody's gone
too far on both sides.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
The morning Breakfast Club, Hello, that's what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm a very get her off your chest brow.

Speaker 12 (12:40):
This is uber, Mike k two things this morning real quick?

Speaker 15 (12:44):
Can you think Jess hilarious are part time permanent guests show?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
We mean a part time permanent guess.

Speaker 15 (12:51):
Because that's a tree.

Speaker 12 (12:52):
When she keeps coming back, I don't want it. I
don't want her to stay there and we gets tired
of her. I want her to come back off and on.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
You ain't got tired of me and envy and thirteen
years or maybe y'all have.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Fast.

Speaker 17 (13:07):
But okay, yes, you got to get the prids.

Speaker 12 (13:11):
I heard you talking about the PRIs back in the day.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
What you got to get You.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Can't pronounce peace back in the day like Prince PRIs.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, it's a call.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
No, I know what it is. But no, I didn't
say I didn't like them. I said I wouldn't drive.
I said, I've seen a couple of Mexicans how ab
out of like one? And I was like, damn, how
do y all fit in? That's what I said. I
ain't say I didn't like them. I just like it
was too many people in one.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Before Prizes though, Mexicans was jumping out of smaller cause
even before the pre.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Morning though definitely, thank you so much. Yeah, but that's yeah,
it was. It was a bunch of bunch of Mexicans
that jumped.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Up, all right. That's always been a thing though.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
It's Mexicans jumping out of priez A bunch of them. Yeah, Yeah,
that's why I love talking about Mexicans. They like to
be around each other. A lot of them they huddle.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
You get your community group eight hundred out that one
O five water if you need to hit us up now,
it's the Breakfast Cloagan Morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
It's some news.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Is it your time to get it off your chest?

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Wait up, whether you're mad or black, time to get
up and get something.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Call up now.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Eight hundred five eighty five one O five one.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 17 (14:26):
Hello.

Speaker 12 (14:26):
Who's this mister world from the nine oh one?

Speaker 2 (14:29):
What's up? Brother?

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Get off your chest?

Speaker 12 (14:31):
Man, I just want to get all.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
My chair man.

Speaker 12 (14:33):
Last year I was fired by the Baby Police Department
or pulling over growth he rope somebody I went to school,
I mean somebody went to school with abody, grew up
in the neighborhood and with me and my partner was
fine man, just from pulling hum over and it went
by on social media.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
So you're a police officer. You pulled somebody over and
they fired you.

Speaker 12 (14:54):
Yeah, I was a police I bullt somebody over and
they fired.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
You ain't telling the whole story.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
You ain't the whole You're legally pulled him over Yeah,
that don't sound my partner.

Speaker 12 (15:04):
My partner made the stock. He cat me on the
phone to pull up in the stem. He got out
on on fussing media.

Speaker 15 (15:11):
It went viral.

Speaker 12 (15:13):
It wasn't a negative stop, it was positive, and he
got out on some media got back to him.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
What's your partner white?

Speaker 2 (15:23):
No, he was black. Sounds like there's more to the store.
That's why I'm not even paying him because you're not
telling the store.

Speaker 12 (15:30):
You can check it out on uh pretty much.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
If you didn't do anything wrong and you just pulled
somebody over for doing something wrong, there's no way that
they have a legal rights to fire you. You would
be in the union. Your union will be yelling, screaming,
hollowing and all that.

Speaker 12 (15:44):
Yeah. But see, we didn't have to do it. We
have at all our fall in part.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
I'm still fighting that what police department don't have a union.

Speaker 12 (15:53):
We didn't have a union.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
It sounded to me like you was making the citizens arrestler.
Are you really a copy I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
That was kind of crazy to me.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Hello, who's this?

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Wow? Hello?

Speaker 11 (16:04):
Yo?

Speaker 15 (16:06):
What's up this here?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Man? What's up?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Terrorist?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Off your chest?

Speaker 11 (16:10):
Hey man?

Speaker 15 (16:11):
First of all, man shout out to the brother because
you know I love y'all. Man ain't number one is
before I get into my what I've got to say,
man shot and just be doing our thing. But I
think y'all need to find a way to put her
calling your boat up there both on fire and I
respect so shout out said. I didn't want to get
that all my chest though.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I'm the number too.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
Man.

Speaker 15 (16:33):
I want to say, man, my girl broke up with
me because man, I don't I never want to have
sex one up period on and she and I'm thirty
four years old. It is not my thing, and I
don't know why it was Like the second girl I
ain't had to issue with. Now I want to upset
and I don't want to have second up period on es.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Well, listen, that must be some fine penis because for
you to even want to be touched on your period
as really like we don't.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I want you.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Far away from me? And then I thought not the
whole time, Like everybody does not experience moves when they're
menstrual like that, like get away from me. But when
you're like sorry, bloody and you're cramping and you don't
you don't want a man to even be you don't
even want to be exposed to a man, So I.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Don't know what you're doing? What if I don't like that?

Speaker 15 (17:20):
That's what I thought, But this is.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
But no, what you not even if she's spotting, not
like she ain't gotta be bleeding bleeding?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
What about?

Speaker 15 (17:29):
Yeah, but I understand I can reach You're great, you.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 15 (17:33):
And I'm a gown man for everybody being child It's just.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Not my thing, you know, And not because I just
don't like it. Yeah, well don't like it and don't
do it and then break up with if she keep going, you.

Speaker 15 (17:47):
Know, and she does.

Speaker 12 (17:53):
Like I don't want.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, I don't know that he isn't even don't look
over here, y'all looking over here, like what's the.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Watch?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Period was like a baby reveal, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
God Jesus, a period. Don't stop nothing but a sentence.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
By the way, give it over your chest eight hundred
and five and five, one on five.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
We got rooms on the way?

Speaker 10 (18:19):
What we what?

Speaker 3 (18:20):
We give us a little tea?

Speaker 5 (18:21):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Lance and Rivera confirms jay Z didn't stab him during
the nineteen ninety nine club altercation. He's supposed to stab something. Oh,
I remember that, Oh we didn't stab seven and I
remember if jay.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Z was supposed to stab somebody. Oh my goodness, we'll
get into that next. It o't move, It's to breakfast club.
Good morning the breakfast club, Dad, I set you up up.
Maybe remember you made fun of the media other day
because I didn't have my stuff in front of Shall
I do it?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
I just want to clown you for not knowing how
to read. That's why let's don't like that. I know
you know how to read.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
I'm going to breakfast club.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Let's get to Jest with the mess. But yeah, report
on the breakfast club. Good luck, Jess.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
Alright, so before we get to jay Z and Nam,
because that's pretty juicy. Oakland Street to be named after Tupac. Now,
this is this is just personal for me. Y'all gonna
probably look at me like what. I didn't know that
he was not from Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
I thought he was from Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
No, he was from Uh he was born in New York, Tupac.
I didn't know he was from New York.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
He was born I was born in New York.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah, okay, so he's born in New York and then
he spent some time in Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
A lot of time in Baltimore. Yeah, a lot of times,
I think.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, So that's what I think because I never heard
anything about that. So growing up, I just thought that
he was street from Baltimore, swapping, like, you know, being
a gangster, Like Yo, we got Tupac and we got
to Upac. That's what I thought. But he's getting his
Oakland street named after him. You know, the street Tupac
used to live on in Oakland is being given the
honorary name Tupac Chicaulway.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
I'm shocked that it's not more streeched on the West
coast already. Yeah, I feel like I feel like two
will be competing with Doctor Martin Junior when it comes
to streets all across.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
The country everywhere.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
I'm just everywhere you go there the street name after
Doctor Martin. The way people love hip hop culture, I
would think there'd be a lot of two pac Ways.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
So why is it we got any streets named after Biggie? Like,
we ain't got no Biggie boulevards.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I'm sure there's in Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
I'm sure there's a Biggie Biggie Street of Biggielov Like Christopher.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
All right, sure, Tupac fans know that Park was actually
born in Harlem. See, I just knew that, you know.
I think Envy wrote this then eventually moved to Baltimore,
where he stayed so he was a teenager, and then
moved to Marin City in California. All right, cool, that's
what's up. I think that's dope.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yes, And Biggie does have a street named after him.
Christoph Christopher is big Wallace.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Way imagine living on that street. You can't even say it.
It's so long, all right. Former music executive lance On
Rivera insists that jay Z never stabbed him in nineteen
ninety nine. So he said he never stabbed him. I
think it's so funny because allegedly, I guess jay Z

(21:14):
said that he did or something back in nineteen ninety nine.
Lance Rivera, better known as un which I don't know
why that's his middle name. Why would you do that,
was stabbed at a party for Q tip N is
a former music executive whatever whatever know, mostly for his
close association with Biggie alright, right. For years, there have
been several different stories about what happened in that at
the club. Who stabbed on You're just trying to prove

(21:36):
you can read, but on paper, that's what I'm saying.
Put on paper. Jay Z was believed to be I
don't want to listen because I don't understand what the
niggas be talking about. So I ain't really trying. I mean,
I'll let y'all decipher, but I'm gonna read first.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Envy.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Jay Z was believed to be the person that stabbed him.
At the time of the stab in, jay Z maintant
maintained that his innocence.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Lyrics and killed jay Z. He said that lyrics, He said,
the actual lyric is you got to not in your chest.
Imagine now a knife hurts. You stabbed on over some records.
Your excuse was he was talking to reckless. So he
talks about that and kill Bill killed jay Z.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Oh wow, couples, you want to throw to the audio
now you want to want what?

Speaker 4 (22:16):
You go ahead throw?

Speaker 8 (22:18):
It was jay Z the one that actually stabbed you.

Speaker 18 (22:20):
No, jay Z was not the guy actually stabbed me
that night.

Speaker 8 (22:24):
But jay Z was there when you got stabbed, was
actually in front of you when you got stabbed.

Speaker 18 (22:29):
It was like, yeah, me and jay Z had a
conversation right before I got hit in the head with
a champagne bottle or what did he tell you? He
just kept saying, you broke my heart. You broke my heart.
And I'm like, we talking about I don't know where
people got jay Z stabbed me from, because if anybody

(22:50):
knows jay Z, jay Z is a nice guy and
it's never been his history.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Hey Manu the DJLA dropping the clues bombs bombs for
Flag because those that Lance unrevera TV interview had me
in a choke hold all week and I feel like
I watched all seventy three clips of that interview.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
That is crazy. So he said he never did. But
this is the thing, Like, do you think something like
that could be like paid off? I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I mean it's been so long ago. I mean, I
don't know what's true and what's not true. I just
know it's a very fascinating conversation.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
But he did say he was we was talking and
you broke my hut.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
But they all from Brooklyn and they you know, and
Lance used to run Biggie's record label. Yeah, and so
I'm sure they were all a tight knit community. I mean,
he was Biggie's partner. He was the one that you
know had Little Kim and had Caesar, had Junior Mafia,
so they probably all knew each other. So I'm sure
it was something different than just whatever it was.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
He thought they said that on with Bootleg and Jayson's
album it was. I think it was Volume Volume three.
Another thing that understand in that too, he talked about
how you know Nas told y'all what it was on
on ether when he said your man stabbed one, it
made you take the blame.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Wow, damn they just talking about this is all over lyrics.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
I love that interview, man, because is in there talking
about like Biggie's creativity.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
We have that we have some of the clips to
about something he talks about Biggie.

Speaker 8 (24:08):
I honestly, as much as I known, as many people
as I speak to, I honestly don't know who killed Biggie.
Do you feel like you know who killed Biggie?

Speaker 18 (24:16):
Can you say no, I'm a telling on the series.

Speaker 8 (24:19):
Okay, but you feel confident you know? Okay, I did
my mob research, okay, and stop blaming. Sure, because nowhere
shugs story. Shugs story has always been beat them up,
them up, drag them in this story. There's no kill him,

(24:40):
shoot him, shooting should.

Speaker 18 (24:42):
All these guys was puppets, scapegoats. Bigger plays were involved
with them when it came to this, hundreds and billions
of dollars in money.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Man, Why these conversations so fascinating to me, It's like
it's like Greek mythology at this point when you hear those,
because this is all.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Real and we don't even seem like we would ever
find out. That's why.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
That's when you meet people from that era, people that
was actually there, like yeah, you just find yourself going
down a rabbit hole of conversation with them if they
willing to.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Well, there was no social media back then, so the
only time you got information was the news and Angie
Martinez and Wendy Wiams back then, so you never got
the full story. So now that these buffers are telling
the full story, you want to hear, like, you want
to hear all that information.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I tell Angie Martinez that all the time people that
have had conversations with Biggie and Tupac, like actually interviewed them,
they're just like, that's that's that's beyond iconic, because they
don't even they don't even seem like real people.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
But so many of us fall as soldiers, whether it
was Big pun, whether it was old, dirty bastard, whether
it was you know.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Michael Jackson.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Those conversations are the ones we didn't get to hear
because there was no social media. The internet just was
started at that time.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Guess what, but AI about the mission about to bring
all of them back.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
And something and something as serious as this. Don't be
keep putting in room of report for me. Do this
when y'all got another co hosts or something like this,
because this is very serious.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Stuff though we don't have no more.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
And then you just said, you know, y'all is y'all
doing it to the end of the year, so until
you know, I make.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
It just like I wasn't even born with all this.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
I didn't even get to DJ yet. Man, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's all right.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
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Speaker 3 (26:41):
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co host and let's get in some front page News
or Star Office sports right fast, and Nuggets beat the
Lakers one thirteen, one eleven. Now, Lebron said he doesn't
know what his future looks like after he was swept.

Speaker 7 (26:57):
I might to say it's a successful year because I
don't play for anything besides winning championships at this point
in my career, and I don't I don't get a
kick out of making a conference appearance. I've done it
a lot, and it's not fun to me to not
be able to be able to be a part of, uh,
you know, getting to the finals. But but let's see,

(27:21):
we'll see what happens going forward.

Speaker 8 (27:22):
But I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (27:24):
I got a lot to think about, to be honest.
I had a lot to think about, to be honest,
and just for me personally going going forward with the
game of basketball, a lot to think about.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
I mean, I don't think last night helped our hurt
lebron legacy. I think Lebron is already home. He's certified,
you know what I'm saying. And I know Lebron gets
a lot of slander. I don't think it's warranted. If
you want to debate him being number two on down
after Michael Jordan, let's go at it. Only thing I
pushed back against it that he's the greatest of all time.
But he is still Lebron James at the end of

(27:54):
the day, and with all of that success will come.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
A whole lot of That's right, and your last night
he scored thirty point He's in forty eight minutes, he
had ten rebounds in nine assists at the age of thirty,
and he's still busting at Yeah, the greatest of all times.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
No, he's not all right, He's one of them.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
He wanted to go and never heard you know what
I mean, he just ate the goat. But he's he's
you know, he's two on down. I'll debate.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
And we also got a salute to Kamelo Anthony.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yesterday he announced that he's retiring from the game of basketball,
So a salute to him.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
It's piece to the God. One of the greatest offensive
players of all time.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Of course we love him in Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
He's from Baltimore. Yeah, Baltimore, New York, he claims.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yep, yep, he claims us both. So yeah, what's that.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
Now?

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Let's get into the front page. Was telling the figure
out Where you want to start.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
Let's start with Twitter.

Speaker 9 (28:43):
Verified Twitter accounts shared a fake image of explosion near
the Pentagon caused a lot of confusion, thanks to Elon
Musk for allowing everybody to buy a blue check on
Twitter and new AI technology that we've been talking about
consistently here. A major Indian television network, Republic and a
Russian news outlet called RT reported that an explosion had

(29:04):
taken place near the Pentagon and showed the fake image
on the air. Let's take a listen and talk about it.

Speaker 14 (29:10):
On the other side, somebody posted using an account that
they claimed was linked to the Bloomberg News organization, posting
that AI generated AI generated image and claiming there had
been some kind of explosion at the Pentagon that then
got shared across multiple other verified accounts that we saw
it on other platforms too. Looked quite coordinated, but we

(29:31):
don't know right now who who pushed this is.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
The only the beginning. Yeah, that's gonna be a problem.
I've said it a million times. Y'all can't even handle
fake twets.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Y'all think y'all can handle AI and fake misinformation like this,
Wait till twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Your election really kicking the hide.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
This is gonna be a problem because everybody's gonna do
things like this as a joke. Yeah, ogu see, you're
gonna see more shootings. You're gonna see like sports games.
They're gonna say his explosion it's school. So this is
gonna be a big problem. I don't know how they
correct this problem, because anybody could make a Tweter page,
anybody could pull say anything, and by the time they
realize it's fake, the damage has already done.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
What are you doing and let's.

Speaker 9 (30:05):
Talk about the damage quickly. The stock market actually took
a brief dip because of this yesterday, so this was
an actual real consequence that came with this. Once they
found out that it was fake, they did go back
and retract the story, but again the stock market dip
as a result of a fake image. And you know
Instagram also is following the trend of everybody buying a

(30:26):
blue check, and I know there's been a lot of
talk out there. Oh you know, celebrities are just mad
because people can buy blue checks.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
No, it's bigger than that.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
You know.

Speaker 9 (30:32):
When you have an organization claiming to be a media
outlet and they're sharing this and then it got retweeted
over and over and over by other media outlets, it
can be a real problem.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, and what are you doing as AI and a
world leader says they just fired a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
The nuclear weapons can get over here in like twenty
five thirty minutes, you know what I mean? Like, you
think our elected officials have this smart and the web
with all to figure that out within twenty five thirty
minutes on whether something is real or not.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Now you just don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
But that you know, when you start playing with things
like the stock market, think about it like this. If
I know that I could do something fake, it'll dip
the stock market, and then I could buy that stock
and then by the time people think about it's fake
and the stock shoots back up, you're gonna be making millionaires,
billionaires and all types of things. So that's another game
that can take it down.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
I need to go ahead and do that.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Give us the game ghost. My goodness, you got another one.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
We got time for one more?

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Okay, great?

Speaker 9 (31:26):
South Carolina Governor Big Master he looks forward to hunting
down Democrats like dogs. The Anderson County Democratic Party issue
a statement Sunday, May twenty first, following government Governor Big
Master's comments during Saturday South Carolina Republican Party convention. He said,
I look forward to the day the Democrats are so
rare we have to hunt them with dogs. He also

(31:48):
said the same thing in twenty eighteen. Now in a response,
his communications director said that Governor mc master has been
making this joke at GOP conventions for years and everyday
South Carolinians understand that it's a joke, and Carolina Democrats
no longer can bear the lighthearted jokes made at their expense.
Then maybe they should focus their energy on winning and
not whining.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
That is just some South Carolina country rhetoric. People that
really should be offended are not people, but the creature
is dogs. The dogs are always getting put in stuff
like this. I'm gonna hunt you down like a dog.
Hit dog will hollow every dog day.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Why dogs getting putting in which men get compared to dogs?
Like what if? What if dogs are the most faithful creatures?

Speaker 4 (32:32):
What if dogs don't?

Speaker 7 (32:34):
Right?

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
What? Dogs don't cheat? On't the me? Why y'all calling
chief knaf men.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Us right right?

Speaker 5 (32:41):
You crazy?

Speaker 2 (32:43):
It's crazy.

Speaker 9 (32:44):
They're offended by, you know, being hunt down like dogs.
So they feel it was a racist trop So do.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
You have a dog?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
How can it be a racist troupe? And it ain't
just just white Democrats.

Speaker 9 (32:55):
Well, because the majority of the Democrat Party is black
and they.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
A Democratic voters.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
You mean the majority of the Democrat Party even.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
The party now is black, the majority.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
The majority, Hey were majority?

Speaker 5 (33:07):
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I didn't know. I didn't know the majority of Democratic
Party was black.

Speaker 9 (33:10):
Yes, the majority of the Democrat Party is black. The
majority of Democrat voters and the Democrat parties voters. That's why,
that's why Joe Biden told you if you don't vote,
h for you.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
I know the voters.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
But I'm talking about the party, like the administration, that's
the majority of Democratic administration is black.

Speaker 9 (33:26):
Well, I'm not talking about the administration. I'm talking about
the voters as a whole.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Oh, the voters Okay, okay, got you got.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Yeah, the voters as a whole.

Speaker 9 (33:33):
The majority is black, I mean obviously, and then then
you know the words they like to use people of color.
I mean, so when you talk about hunting somebody down
like a dog, and particularly you know in the in
the South, you know, you forgot how they would take
dogs and hunt down you know, black folks.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I just took it as he was saying that he hopes, uh,
you know, the Democrats people stopped being Democrats, and it's
just rare to find it.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
That's how I took it that.

Speaker 9 (33:55):
But you're from South Carolina, so I guess maybe you.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Already all right, well his front page news. Now when
we come back, Jamaal Bowman will be joining us. Is
the US representative from New York sixteenth Congressional District. That's
the Bronx, and tes you gonna stay with us, right,
absolutely all right, So we're gonna kick it with Jamal
Bowman when we come back. So don't move. It's the
congressman from the Bronx.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 11 (34:22):
Morning.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Everybody is DJ env Charlamage, the guy we are the
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Of course, we got our guest co host Jess Larius here.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yes, I'm sorry, okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
We have Jess Hilarius here and of course Teslin Figuarreo
who's with us each and every morning. And we got
a special guest in the building. He goes by the
name of Jamaal Bowman.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Congressman.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Congressman Jamaal Bowman. And I think you should start the
show by really getting into Charlemagne the way he talks
about your district, which is the Bronx. You said that,
I mean, he told me the craziest people come from
Florida and the Bronx.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
And there's no way you should let him talk.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
About your district like that because you represent the people.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
The congressman knows that.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
That's why he is in the position then to try
to clean it up and try to make it less crazy.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
But you also he also catered to the Bronx too,
because he bought a little person from the Bronx and
here with eighteenth.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Yes he did. At the end of the day he
found a stripper from the Bronx, did mail stripper.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
So he usual for what he wanted to use y'all, I.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
Mean so real quick. The sixteenth district, yes, includes the Bronx.
The Bronx created hip hop. So that's the reason why
we all here perfect got to uplift the Bronx there
all right.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Look, before running for Congress, yes, I know you was
a total different person. Who was Jamal, who was no
mall from the Bronx.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
No, pretty much the same dude. I mean prior to running,
I was in education for twenty years. I started out
teaching in the Bronx at the elementary school in the
South Bronx so If one sixty six and Sheridan Avenue.
Did that for about six or seven years before becoming
a high school deal and guidance counselor at the MLK
campus near Lincoln Center. Did that for about three four years,

(35:58):
and I realized that, you know, the education system wasn't really,
in my opinion, unlocking the full potential of our kids.
So I wrote a proposal to open up my own school,
and I submitted that to the city, and in two
thousand and nine we opened up our own school in
the Northeast Bronx, right around the corner from Boston Seaquad
Projects across the highway from co Op City, and I

(36:18):
ran that school for ten and a half years. And yeah,
I just took my experiences as a student, which were,
you know, to your point, a lot of trouble in schools,
suspend it multiple times, all of that. Took those experiences
as well as my professional experiences, and just implemented it
in my school as part of the curriculum, like just
routing it, rooting the curriculum and knowledge of self, making

(36:42):
sure our kids learned their history and their culture and
their creativity and expressed that through project based learning. Because
when I was in school, I ain't learn nothing about
my history. Everything I learned about my history came from
the you Must Learn song by krus One. Like that
one song was like the whole curriculum, you know what
I mean. We learned in school like our history started

(37:03):
with slavery and now our ancestors were traded for spices
like that, But we don't learn about, like you know,
democracy in Africa and our contribution to building the pyramids,
and how Europeans came to us to start their civilization.
We don't learn all of that. I just took all
that and that's how I ran my school for ten years,
and then after doing that, it was like you know what,

(37:23):
you know, I saw an increase in like self harm
with kids, increasing, a lot of mental health challenges with
kids in my school and in the community. And the
year before I ran, thirty four kids died within the
cater Trold school system in the Bronx and seventeen died
by suicide. And many people saw when the kid junior
got jumped, I don't know if you're so the kid

(37:46):
junior and that was mistaken identity jump Junior killed him.
But right in Corps City, fourteen year old girl was
you know, bullied in school. Right after school, she goes
to the top of a building, jumps off, kills herself
right after school front of everybody, and then rapp the
street and new a shell. Two girls get into a fight,
won't pull out nice, stab the other kills up. And

(38:06):
no elected official was making a connection between the trauma
that our kids go through and the policies that were
passing in Washington, Like if you historically underfund schools, public schools,
if you redline communities on purpose, if you don't provide
job opportunities, entrepreneurship, don't invest in black. But if you

(38:28):
don't do those things, and at the same time you
bringing in crack, you're bringing in you know, harm, people
are gonna harm themselves in their community. So for me,
that's why I ran. I ran because of my students,
my kids, and I wanted to bring just that voice
to Congress and how do we now.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
We talked about all those things, how do we clean up?
What's your plan to clean that up? Because we see
that not just in the Bronx, we see that in
every borough in New York City.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
We see it all around the country hood, every hood.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
We see that thing. Black people are in communist poverty.
Right we gotta invest, We gotta spend money not just
on the not just in the public side, but the
private side. So when I'm calling for rape reparations, it's
not just about repairing the harms of history. It's about
repairing the harms of right now. Because when you look
in poor communities, especially poor black, brown communities, we look
at life expectancy, when you look at wealth inequality, when

(39:16):
you look at education. Now, every metric you use, we
at the bottom. And that's because of the historical harm.
So we got to spend money. You know, some have
called for up to sixteen trillion dollars in reparations for
black people because of what has happened. So I support that.
I support cash payments, I support other aspects of that,
investments and housing, education. I mean, just take one policy.

(39:36):
I'll just take one. Right after slavery, we're supposed to
get forty acres in the mule.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Correct, we didn't.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
Lincoln was killed. New president came in, Congress passed something
called the Homestead Act. So basically, when we expanded out west,
most of that land went to white people, native and
foreign born. You know, land is the foundation of wealth, absolutely,
and they have been built than that wealth ever since,
in addition of other policies that continue to support that

(40:04):
while we have been underfunded. So the short answer is money.
The I guess more immediate answer for us is our
own pursuit of knowledge of self and our own greatness
and investing in each other and building our own power.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
One other questions.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
You know a lot of people say that, you know,
especially in New York City, they saying bail reform is
a good thing and it's a bad thing. They saying
it's a good thing because people that you know do
low level crimes and don't have the money of getting
the opportunity in a chance. But also they saying that
it's a bad thing because a lot of these people
are repeat offenders and they keep doing the same thing
and they know they can come right out.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
What's your thoughts on that?

Speaker 5 (40:40):
So that's exaggerated. Most of the people who have benefited
from bail reform do not commit crime again, So that's
very exaggerated, and that's media driven. We need criminal justice reform, right, Like,
we got people in jail for very minor things and
they are in freaking cages, and we need to understand
that you put some in a cage, you animalize them,

(41:02):
Like I've never done a bid, but I went through
the system. The minute you in a cage, you got
to shift to becoming Okay, let me you know what
I'm saying, like, let me make sure and protect and
union and animalizes you. At the same time, there are
no services in jail to help people struggling with mental
health challenges, substance abuse challenges, poverty, illiteracy, no systems in

(41:25):
jail for that or very little, and there's not outside
for that as well. So when I talk about the
underinvestment in communities. That's part of it. So you want
to talk to me about about crime and public safety,
talk to me about anti poverty program, talk to me
about jobs, talk to me about education. Most of the
people locked up have been identified as having mental health challenge,

(41:45):
substance abuse challenge, or learning disability. Right, most of the
people locked up, and we're not doing anything about that.
And that's why you know. I'm an educator and I'm
biased in this way, but we need massively more investments
in education for smaller class size, better program. Whatever they
do in the best private schools, our kids in public
schools need to be getting that.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
We got more with Jamaal Bowman. When we come back,
it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning everybody. It's DJ Envy,
Charlamagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club. We have
Jess Hilarious and Teslain Figureo joining us for this interview.
We have US representatives from New York sixteenth District.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Jamaal Bowman.

Speaker 9 (42:19):
Task you mentioned you call for reparations and a lot
of people are confused on what that actually means.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
It's plainly the difference.

Speaker 9 (42:26):
So people can understand the difference between a resolution and
a bill and what you're actually calling for, and in
addition to that, how they can even help you on
the local level, like when we see the Reparations Task
Force and so forth, in order to give you the muscle,
if you will, to be able to push those things forward.

Speaker 5 (42:42):
Yes, so thank you for that question. Shout out to
Corey Bush for introducing the resolution. So a resolution is
a vision statement. It's a vision for what we want
and where we need to go. It's a vision statement.
What comes from that resolution are multiple pieces of legislation
that will be introduced to support parts of the resolution.
Does that make sense? So initially resolution vision statement. The

(43:06):
vision is we need fourteen trillion for reparations because of
boom boom, boom boom. Now from that, okay, how do
we get there? One piece of legislation could be something
that focuses on housing and land. Another piece could focus
on universal health care. Another piece can focus on free
college or whatever. Another piece can focus on cash payments.
So that's what that is. So it's not a nothing burger,

(43:26):
it's a vision statement. Just putting the line in the sand.
HR forty is a bill looking to form a task
for us to study the need for reparations. I support
HR forty, but I think it needs to evolve. The
first time it was introduced, I think was like forty
one years ago, if I'm not mistaken by Representative John
Conner's Rest in Peace, So four years ago, maybe we

(43:49):
needed to study. But now we have a lot of
data that already tells us we got to do something
about this, right, and so I support that, but we
need an evolution. What's what my office is working on.
Other offices are working on our legislation related to reparations.
Now to your point about local elections, there are there
have been counties and cities and even the state of California,

(44:10):
which is like probably the biggest one that formed the
task for us to study this in state, and they
have come up with X amount of dollars that need
to be paid to black residents in California due to reparations.
That would be dope if it was done in every state,
in all fifty states and at the federal level. And
to your last point, none of this happens if people
don't get engaged in democracy and in the political process.

(44:33):
Like I understand why people are disenchanted from politics because
it never worked for us. But it's like a paradox.
It ain't gonna work for us until we make it
work for us. And I'm a living example of that.
I ran against someone who was there thirty one years.
He was chair of a powerful committee. No one thought
he had money, no one thought we had a shot.

(44:54):
But because we organized on the grassroots level and knocked
on every door in my district multiple times for a year,
people came out. We were able to win that election.
Now you got someone who's the first person of color
sitting in that seat, first black man ever sitting in
that seat speaking when I'm speaking. We need that in
every corner of the country, every district, every state, because

(45:15):
the biggest issue is low voted turnout. So we get turned,
we could turn. We could turn Texas blue quick easy.
We could turn if we turn out. We just do
the same thing in Florida. We could do saying in
a lot of red states all the things we want reparations, childcare,
universal pre K investments, and educate healthcare. That only happened
if you get the right people in office. If we

(45:35):
don't get the right people in office, it's a rap.
And you'll have one. Senator Joe Manchin shut the whole
thing down. Like if Mansion with Biden's agenda last term,
and I'll stop on this, we would we would have
had universal childcare. It means free childcare right now. We
would have had universal pre K. We would have had
paid leave. We're the only developed country in the world

(45:57):
without paid leave, which is crazy. Now for the housing,
crazy you can't find for mortible housing. Four hundred billion
was in this package last of Congress. We couldn't pass
because of Senator Mansion and Cinema. So, yes, you're right,
like engagement, deep engagement, democracy, we need everybody on deck.

Speaker 9 (46:16):
Yeah, just fau.

Speaker 18 (46:17):
I agree with that.

Speaker 9 (46:18):
Turnout is a problem, but the main, the larger problem
is who are they actually voting for, And so when
people don't people are not turning out. I always try
to make sure that I'm not blaming the voter. I
blame the lack of bench. You've talked about this before
on saying that Democrats haven't, you know, done a great
job on actually having a bench. You're the only one
that's bringing the smoke shut out to you, you know,

(46:39):
for actually bringing the smoke like you've done with Green,
like you've done with Thomas Macy, like you have really
challenged people in a very loud way to make sure
they understand your position. So one of those things is
more just a statement on how, you know, can we
get more people that they actually want to vote for?
There always will be more people that do not vote
than do vote, But where are the candidates and how

(47:00):
are those candidates being able to move forward and get
them the support that they need to order to run.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
I say one thing that that absolutely right. Agree with
that one hundred percent. And what you highlight is a
disconnect within the Democratic Party. You have the traditional Democrats
who want to keep things traditional and only communicate to
the people who vote all the time, and then you
have people like me, Corey Bush lci on to Presley
who want to transform the party and politics in our country.

(47:25):
And we know we got to engage in communities that
y'all have ignored for decades. So you're absolutely right. If
we do that, you find candidates who will rise up
and be like, you know what, let me get us
a shot, and then you'll inspire people. One of the
things I felt when I ran I was like, yo,
I got a shot because I was a principal in
this district for ten years, so I knew like ninety

(47:48):
seven percent, not one hundred percent, but ninety seven percent
of the kids in their families like would big me
up but have good things to say about me, and
would spread the word based on my record in that district.
There are people that we're not even thinking of about now. Nurses,
you know what I'm saying. Other teachers and educators, people
in communities who may have thought about doing it but
don't really know how. And the more we organize, the

(48:10):
more we discover those people and find good Canada.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Do you ever feel alone?

Speaker 1 (48:15):
And what I mean by that is you're out there
and disrupting, you know, George Santos, I just hear you.
Then when it's Marjorie Taylor Green roll up on you,
it's just you. I actually saw other people. I thought
AOT tell you she's.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Not worth it.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
In that moment, to me, I'm like, well, damn, it's
a black man all ging with a woman.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I felt like pushed you.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Out as absolutely.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
Yeah, So nah, I don't. Because you know, the squad
winning in twenty eighteen and how they do their politics
was very inspirational for me, like because they created a
footprint for me to come in and say what I
need to say, because they were I mean, remember you
had Trump chanting, they send them back to their countries,

(48:57):
and Trump the president was going after them constantly for
women of color, and we know why he was doing that.
So they were a big inspiration for me even running.
And now that I'm in, you know that I'm a
part of that crew that that is trying to be
disruptive in different ways. Even though that moment may have
looked you know how it.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Looked represented Bowman.

Speaker 9 (49:16):
It's okay, I'll say it.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
AOC should have.

Speaker 9 (49:18):
Jumped in, and you ain't gonna say it.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
I'm gonna say it.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
With a woman.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
That's right. That's right. Twitter, she's always saying, oh I
may next time. That's right, that's right. You're not gonna
say that was a nice political answer.

Speaker 17 (49:38):
But I'll say AOC.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Bottom line, just jumping.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
I got this time jumping.

Speaker 9 (49:44):
You don't leave a black man after the argue with
a white line the job to jump in. Since she
says she's from New York and I just want to
give a couple of seats on Marjorie Green. Number one,
she screamed liar at President Biden during the State of Union.
She she also followed David Hogg all throughout, you know,
ran him down, and then she came to New York
screaming and yelling. So she she doesn't have the best

(50:05):
record when it comes to the court.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
She was a keynote speaker of the White Nationalist Convention,
like she she she I believe she visited insurrections in
jail to make sure that the prison conditions were good,
and she and she she asks President Trump for a
pardon like potential partner, just in case it went down
that she was involved in January sixth. You know, so yeah,

(50:27):
she she's she's off the chain. But would I always
like to remind people it ain't about hers, about us,
you know what I mean? So she gonna say and
do what she gonna do. We have to continue to
build our political power with conversations like this, to continue
to engage and inform and bring people in. One point
that you made about about Biden's billy pulpit, and again

(50:48):
I agree with all of that. What I'm learning is
so when we pass a bill, that money just leaves
and goes to states and counties and cities, and if
those states and counties and those states and counties and
cities are responsive to the infrastructure that's already in place.
So if you have a construction company that's been in
place for fifty years doing business with the state based

(51:11):
off federal contracts, you're more likely to get that money. Right,
and most of those companies are white companies. So the
bill has passed by the fairs, the money comes to
states and counties and cities, and then they decide on
what to do with it. What we've been trying to
do is help to build the black and brown infrastructure
to go after those contracts and go after those grants,

(51:34):
because if it's not in place, you're not going to
you're going to be less likely to receive those grants
versus the Building Trades Association that's been doing business in
New York State for decades, sometimes even hundreds of years.
And again, this is another manifestation of white supremacy and
how it lives in institutions, not just with individual people.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Right. We got more with Jama Bowman when we come
back the Breakfast Club, Good morning, but everybody is DJ
Envy Charlamage de God.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
We are the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
We have Jess Hilarious and Teslin Figaro joining us for
this interview. We have US Representative for New York sixteenth District,
Jamore Bowman. How can people support you? If they want
to support you and follow what you're doing out there.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
Oh damn, that's nice, go to Bowman from Congress dot
com and please make a contribution to our reelection campaign.
I mean, that's always something that is incredibly helpful. And
go to Bowman House dot gov on the official side
so you can learn what we're doing in Congress and
how we could be helpful to you throughout the district.
But again, the biggest thing, you know, the black community

(52:38):
alone is a trillion dollar economy. Hip hop community is
even more than that. If we start leveraging that money
to help us win elections locally and nationally, we changed
the game and pretty much overnight, because we've been able
to build capital because of our greatness and creativity, right,
we got to leverage that capital in the way other
groups do it. Because I'll tell you right now, fossil fuel,

(52:59):
come companies, pharmaceutical companies, Pro Israel lobby. They hit my
office constantly telling me to do this or this or
this on a particular bill. I need that we need
that same power for our community. You know what I'm saying,
We start using that over because big money controls politics,
and big corporations control politics. And that's why we don't

(53:21):
take corporate money, because we don't want to be beholden
to big corporations. So it's usually individual contributions and support.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I got a couple more questions. Tell me about the
RAP Act.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
Yeah, so the RAP Act RAP stands for restoring Artists protection,
and it's just to make sure prosecutors don't seek to
indict and convict only using rap lyrics.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
What about the who really rapping about?

Speaker 5 (53:42):
Yeah, they off to change. They should be held to
they should be held accountable. But there are people who
are in jail right now just for lyrics. Like there's
a gentleman, Tommy Kennedy I believe in Wisconsin who was
convicted at seventeen to life in prison because of rap
lyrics and no other evidence at all. Like if you
got other ever, bring the other evidence. And if a
lyric connect to the evidence, we get that. But if

(54:05):
you're just going for for lyrics, and and when we
look at rap, over the last decade, five hundred times
lyrics have been used in court compared to other gyors
and music only been five times and most of them
been thrown out. So it's it's once again targeting like
they did with two live crew and n w A
and Nice Tea. So we just want to make sure
the federal level that doesn't happen, but states have to
do it as well. Shout out to Kevin Lows. He's

(54:26):
been a huge channel of UH pushing this agenda. Used to.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Show you didn't rap, because I've seen the video which
you're wrapping with a lot at a conference.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
I can, I can mimic I could you know?

Speaker 3 (54:39):
I could?

Speaker 5 (54:39):
I could spit some charras.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
One boss, Do you remember the bars that you spent
that day which this was a video, it was a
conference and it was a live drummer.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
You was, Yeah, I spent some of the inspected decks
trying verse. I spit that one. You must learn. I
think I spent nas can I think so I could
copy rap?

Speaker 3 (55:04):
No?

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Because I was going you want to be the next
rap in congressman? Or what?

Speaker 5 (55:10):
One last thing? We talked at a lot about Biden
and grass roots organized and all that. I really really
I beg people, I need y'all to begin to have
faith and believe and what we're capable of doing not
just for twenty twenty four, but for twenty twenty eight
and beyond, because this thing don't work unless we stay
in the game for the rest of our lives. And again,

(55:31):
like I'm a manifestation of what I'm talking about, Like
I am proof of concept. I wouldn't be here if
it wasn't for grassroots organizing helping them push someone like
me there. Now that I'm there, again, we have with
shifting the conversation. Please help me get twenty more of
us in Congress, but also state houses, counties and cities

(55:54):
across the country because again, the majority of my colleagues
they just chilling, real comfortable, and they sues, collecting the
money from corporations, passing laws that benefit those corporations. We
need us in there, and the only way to get
us in there is to have all of us in there.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
You know, I've heard you say, Congressman, this is my
last question that you know.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
I've heard you say that you're a part of a
new wave of elected officials who are revolutionizing the way
people look at politics. And I do believe that, But
what are some of the old political views that you
believe need to be changed.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
We need to get.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
Big money out of politics. You know big money. I
mean right now, we have laws in place that pretty
much say corporations are people and money is free speech.
And when you look at the levels of inequality that
is going to disproportionately benefit white people and white men
in particular historically and continuing, we got to get big

(56:44):
money out of politics and have publicly financed and elections. Secondly,
we need to stop fighting harder for things outside of
our own interests. I mentioned those lobbies before, and it
connects with the first piece. You know again fossil fuel,
pharmaceutical et cetera, et cetera. Because they got the money

(57:07):
and the influence, we usually rock with them as opposed
to like beginning with okay, even wall projects hasn't received
a dime in federal investment in over a decade, and
public and public housing has been disinvested in for thirty
forty years, whereas at the same time they're not investing
in the black developer or the black realtor or the

(57:30):
black They're not doing that right, So it's we got
to take the baton from the John Lewis to the
Lojah Cummins and everyone who came before us. And I
think we got to be more radical with it. And
by radical, I just mean get to the core truth
and tenants of the issue and be loud and outspoken
and unapologetic about it, because that's the only way things move.

(57:54):
Like Republicans win. Republicans don't win on nothing else but
fear and being loud.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
They don't.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
They don't have the moral argument, they don't have the
intellectual argument. They don't inspire no one, no one. They fear,
They fear monger, they allowed, and they vote to suppress.
That's it. Young people ain't rocking with them. People of
color generally don't rock with them. Morally. They don't got
the arguments. So we gotta we gotta to me s
if I'm here, like this is the moment to like

(58:23):
take go for it all, like we just gotta do it.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
I love how the Bronx comes out every now many
Are you gonna?

Speaker 9 (58:33):
Are you gonna run one day for president?

Speaker 5 (58:36):
I don't know, you never know. We'll see you said
that you said it on what did that was? You know,
we'll see though it's possible. I said one thing you
said about you brought up Atlanta. There's a lot of
opportunity in the South right now to do big things
in politics. And if there's any New Yorkers who are
not happy with New York, consider relocating to the South

(58:57):
because the South got a lot happening and a lot
of opportunity in terms of leveraging the black vote and
black power to really do something big in the South.

Speaker 9 (59:07):
Especially in hip hop, especially in Atlanta. You're absolutely right
because now that Georgia will be an early state.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
One of the things that kill Mi Carolina South Carolina,
which y'all.

Speaker 9 (59:17):
Have been in an early state, though y'a the first year, Well, no,
South Carolina's first. But what I'm saying is Georgia has
never been an early state, so they're going to be
number three. So now, so all of the tenants, if
you will, the power in South Carolina. You know, with
the Jim Clyburn, it's still room to still grow there,
but they've already been in place. The strategy is Georgia
is now in early states, so and it's a battleground
state for the very first time. So now younger voters,

(59:38):
particularly from the hip hop particularly from Generation X, Generation
Z Y, whatever else in alphabet. Now there's an opportunity
where there can be more voice, particularly on the progressive side,
because now it's an early state. So it's a lot
of strategy represented. Bowman's actually absolutely right on that, a
lot of strategy that can happen in Georgia and particularly
as we as we move forward.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
All right, well, the brother Jamaal Boweman, we appreciate you,
thank you for stopping through.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
You know, this is open house for you say any
time you need to come on through.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
Let this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Everything you do, sir, this congressman, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
The Breakfast Good morning everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
It's Steen, j En Vy Chow, them and the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club. What Jess hilarious is our
co host? What Jess all day?

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
What's good?

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Let's get to the room.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Let's get to this is the room of report on
the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 8 (01:00:38):
Honey.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Okay, So little Dirk accuses Gunna of snitching. Why soth
rico trial? He said that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
So all right, So we got audio. We got audio
from the first from when the judge basically was, you
know what I'm saying, Gunna was basically snitching, and I
want to hear that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:56):
Let's play that the L and you have personal knowledge
that members are associates and by cel have committed crimes
and furtherms of the game.

Speaker 16 (01:01:08):
You were present when law enforcement officers stopped the vehicle
in which you were present along with Jeffrey Williams, where
in hydra coodo, methamphetamans, and a firearm were recovered.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
These items did not belong to you. And do you
acknowledge the following statement?

Speaker 19 (01:01:26):
I recognize the accept and deeply regret that my talent
and music, and directly further, why sell the game to
the detriment of my community? Why sell as a game
must in? Is that your statement or acknowledgement?

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Yes, it's crazy how we don't give a gun and
credit for being polite? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Yes, man, you won't be saying that the elders no
more anybody. So what are you supposed to say? You're
talking to the judge. You say, yes, sir, yeah, hell yeah,
nobody to judge.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
You are ready not to a judge.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
So by now we're all the know you what's going
on with the Wise reco case and all of that,
and we know that there's been rumors swarming around whether
gonna snitch Orn or whatever. A lot of rappers feel
like he did. Some rappers feel like he didn't. Lord
Dirk shed his opinion and he said this, you believe
that Gunner told I, don't shit up and play games man,
man told you should have win in there, kept it

(01:02:20):
on mouth clothes. Okay, yeah, that's what I was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
I thought you were trying to reverse it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
I'm like, well, no, I'm like, I just said I
was scared you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
I'm like, huh, I'm like I would have gonna like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
No, I just never followed. I just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
I never like why I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
I just don't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
And if you wind this clip a little bit, looked
into the camera, I told you, if you're a wreck,
I hate you because I love it to Dirk was
talking to academics on the Off the Record podcast. You
know what Gunna haven't done yet? Drop no damn music?

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
Well, why would he We see six or nine more
than we see him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Now, Like you could. You could change the narrative of
the conversation with a high record. And you gotta have
a hit record.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
He has to have a record that you know, people
don't care about what he's saying or what he allegedly did,
and he goes with it because people still don't know
because we haven't heard Thug sided. Like nobody from Thugs
Camp said he snitched or he didn't snitch. Yeah, yeah,
So we don't know if he got permission from Thug,
if this was something that they worked out together.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
So we honestly don't know. So that's right, you know,
that's why he's just drive music.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
You drop music, you changed, you change the conversation, because
you know, we live in a very de writing culture.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
But I think that Thug would let somebody know if
he gave a you know what I'm saying, I just
don't know. I think that we don't know things for
a reason. That's right, you know what I mean, And
that's just what it is. I also want to say
I do not like DJ academics. Let's just get it
all right, sneap Dog is Victorian scenerstand. I can't stand.
Did you even say how you try to antagonize little
Dirt a little bit like, oh I thought you got scared,

(01:03:42):
only scared his whole context.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Of the conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Yeah, I can't, I can't can't. I don't like I
don't like academics. I don't like the way he Yeah,
he do too much. He do too much, and he's
he's really girly. And we know Charlemagne is too, but
at time Charlemagne is a man, so we can't you know,
at least he has a good balance. Like academics always
a bee, so I can't I can say that, right, yeah, yeah,
the academic is always a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
So yeah, to give you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Snoopy, don't get a bottle of honey and you're getting right, well,
yeah whatever. Snoop Dogg is victorious because he defeats sexual
assault lawsuit. Now, since last year, Snoop Dogg has been
battling against sexual sexual assault against uh Selena Powell. For y'all,
who don't know, that's the girl who looked like Michael
Jackson right before he died. Now, she first opened up
the case February twenty twenty two. She said she accused

(01:04:34):
Snoop Dogg for forcing her to give him oral sex, right,
and then he said she only tried to do that
to extort me for money. And so later on in
July twenty twenty two, she submitted another you know, she
tried to open up another case and she added more
charges sexual assault, sexual battery, and defamation. So then he's
been going through this, fighting this for a long time.

(01:04:56):
So and then she even tried to say that he
intimidated her because he posted on Instagram one day gold
Digger seas in his head be careful, nefheuse keep the
gods up. So she she tried to have all these
cases built up against him, but a California judge dismissed
most of the lawsuit because I guess it was baseless
or whatever. But it's still they still made it okay

(01:05:17):
for her, Like she's still in a position where she
can refiul right, but he hasn't said anything and she
hasn't yet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
But I have never heard of this story. Yeah, yeah,
this was a long time ago.

Speaker 9 (01:05:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Selena Powell was also the one that said that Offset
was pregnant at one time. She's also the one that
recently she was wearing a little Meta's chain saying that
she did something else.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
It was another a couple of celebrities. Yeah, but it
wasn't Soldier Boy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
Yeah, it was a lot of guys. It's not a couple,
it's a lot. And what I keep getting upset is
these artists, these rappers, Like why y'all keep sticking y'all, Like,
why do y'all keep trying to deal.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
With this girl?

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Then, like y'all keep because they're dealing with her. She
just be lying, exaggerating and stuff, but they are doing
something with her.

Speaker 18 (01:05:58):
So it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
When you got and she's a white woman too, you white? Yeah,
she sad. She looked like Michael Jackson before he died.
You look like a white woman too before he died.
Come on now, yeah, all right, and that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Is that's just what the messing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Her news is real, allegedly allegedly. All right, Charla Man,
who are giving your down contoo o.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Man for after the hour, Man, we need Daniel Pinny
to come to the front of the congregation.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
We like to have a world with him. Please all right,
we'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
the Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same.
Audible Pick of the Day is in the Room with
Peter Bergen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
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Slash breakfast club today.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Damn, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
I mean, trying to be donky today.

Speaker 9 (01:06:52):
No more.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm
not making these people do these.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
Things called donkey of the day, and it really caught
me off. Damn charlom Man who got the donkey out
of to day today?

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Donkey today for Tuesday, May twenty third goes to Daniel Penny.
If the name sounds familiar, but not really. Daniel Penny
is the man charged with second degree man slaughter in
the video recorded subway killing of Jordan Neely earlier this month.
Rest in peace to Jordan Neely. Now, look, everyone is
innocent until proven guilty. All right, did Daniel Penny kill
Jordan Neely? Yes, we saw that on video. It's up

(01:07:28):
to accord a law to determine whether or not what
he did was a criminal act. All right, don't be
mad at me. That's just the way the law works.
So in a situation like this, you know, I see it,
I mind my business, wait for the facts to come out.
But Daniel Penny gave his first interview with The New
York Post, and I would never understand why it's so
hard for people to just shut the f up. Okay,
maybe it's the caucasidy, maybe it's the unmelanated gaul. I

(01:07:51):
don't know what it is that makes someone who has
just killed a man in front of the whole world
on video. I feel like they have to have a
conversation about it. And if you're gonna have a conversation
about show some empathy for the family and the life
you took, show some remorse. But Nope, nobody clearly prepped
Daniel Penny on how to do any of those things.
And maybe they don't have to because in the eyes
of America, this might be an easy call. Daniel Penny,

(01:08:14):
white male military veteran hero saving people from Jordan, nearly
black mail, threatening mental health issues. Yeah, we see the
narrative that's being painted. And another narrative that's being painted
is that Daniel Penny is a racist. And in this
interview with The New York Post, he pushed back on
the notion that he is indeed a white supremacist.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Let's go to Fox News for the report.

Speaker 20 (01:08:34):
Police and marine veteran accused in the choke hold death
of a homeless subway rider breaks his silence. Daniel Penny
addressing the incident on the subway to that that now
has him facing second degree manslaughter charges, telling the New
York Post quote, this had nothing to do with race.
I judge a person based on their character. I'm not

(01:08:55):
a white supremacist. I mean it's it's a little bit comical.
Everybody who's ever met me can tell you I love
all people. I love all cultures. You can tell by
my past and all of my travels and adventures around
the world. I was actually planning a road trip through
Africa before this happened.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Daniel, your penny got a hole in it. Okay, you
sound hopeless. Word to Deon Fariss. All my uncles and
aunties know who that is. All you youngin is google it.
Here's some words you don't use to describe a murder, Okay,
when you are charged with manslaughter. Comical, Okay, Daniel Penny said,
it's a little bit comical to call.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Him a racist. Daniel, I don't know if you're racist.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Or not, but you have to overstand that some people
are trying to figure out why you would just strangle
a man on the subway, okay, and a white man
doing that to a black man in America, we are
always going to go to race first. So it's not
comical to think you're a racist. It's context. Okay, historical
context at day. Blame your ancestors and racist pigs for
people jumping to that conclusion. But that's not even the

(01:09:52):
reason you're getting donkey today. I mean, personally, you could
have just left it at You know, I'm not racist.
I love all people, I love all coaches. But no, oh,
did y'all catch you the reason why you couldn't be racist? Listen,
listen to this one again.

Speaker 20 (01:10:05):
I'm not a white supremacist. I mean, it's a little
bit comical. Everybody who's ever met me can tell you
I love all people, I love all cultures. You can
tell by my past and all of my travels and
adventures around the world. I was actually planning a road
trip through Africa before this happened.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
I was actually planning a road trip through Africa before
this happened. Not as comical, okay, a road trip through Africa.
White people going to Africa is what makes them less racist.
Daniel Penny, do you know anything about the European colonization
of Africa? I mean, what do you want to call
it to Scramble for Africa, the partition of Africa, the
conquest of Africa, whatever you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Want to call it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
It was the invasion and cholones of colonization of most
of Africa by several Western European powers. So a white
man visiting Africa doesn't mean they have tolerance for black people.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Planning to go to Africa doesn't in any way mean
you don't suffer from white supremacy or racism. That's like
saying saying a man isn't fat because he goes to
whole foods. Okay, fat people have access to whole foods,
like racists have access to Africa. Okay, what's next, Daniel Penny,
You're gonna tell us that some of your best friends
are black. You're gonna tell us you voted for Barack
Obama twice. Oh, Black Pants is your favorite movie too,

(01:11:14):
Daniel Penny, how you cried went to Charlie and Queen
Ramanda died. And for the record, I'm not saying that
Daniel Penny is racist. I have no idea what this
man believes in his heart. I just know that this
is absolutely from Some of my best friends are black.
Playbook and another example of how we can't have real
conversations about race.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I think white people like Daniel Penny have superficial relationships
with black people, and he doesn't even understand how race
plays out in a black person's daily life. If he did,
he would probably understand why folks are calling him a
racist for scrangling a black man to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Death on a train.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
I'm just here to tell.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Y'all this morning that proximity to blackness does not stop
white people from doing racist things. I repeat, proximity to
blackness does not stop white people from doing race his things.
I know New York Post you'allays trying to humanize Daniel Penny.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
But in humanizing him, how about keep him from keep
him from sounding stupid? Please let me mem give Daniel
Penny the biggest y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
He haw, he haw?

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
You stupid motherfucker?

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Are you dumb? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
All right, well, thank you for that donkey today, Yes,
shout everybody on B E T. Will see you guys tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
Thank you b E T.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
All right, now, just have the dilemma, just has a dilemma,
just has some mess. So what's what's what's the situation?

Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
Es?

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
Okay, so look right, so I do this segment called
Jess with the Mess, and somebody wrote when you do
it at on Carefully Reckless my podcast which is on
the Black Effect under iHeart Radio. Thank you Charlainey'll like
you toss all right.

Speaker 9 (01:12:48):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
I had somebody that write me, that wrote me that
said they're in a relationship with the relationship huh, and
their current man had a previous relationship that he was in.
He was attached to child in that relationship. Now the
child is his child. No it's not. It's not as
biological child. And the child even knows her dad, and
her dad is in her life, you know, not the

(01:13:10):
best dad, but nevertheless still knows in her life right now.
When he was with this girl, he did a lot
for the girl. He built the bond with the child.
They were only together for maybe like a year and
a half or so, but he was very drawn to
this child. And even with them breaking up, he goes
to like her graduations and stuff like that. And the

(01:13:31):
girl that wrote me, she has a problem with it
because he has a problem with the bond that her
and her baby father had. And apparently her and her
baby father are like me and Jerome, which is why
she first wrote me yes, and she wants to know
is this a deal breaker because she felt like it's
manipulative for him for her current boyfriend to use the situation.

(01:13:52):
Oh well, look well I ain't gonna stop dealing with
my my and we can't even say my stepdaughter because
you're not you was never married to. The daughter is
like eight or nine, so she's young, you know, and
she's graduating from what's the name and the whole, I
mean from elementary school. And she told he told me,
he was like, I want to go to the graduation

(01:14:13):
and me and how mother will be staying side by side,
saying I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Like, whoa, So you basically like, did you stop being
cool with your ex and your ex's family for your
new man?

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
I mean, it ain't even that, it's just like because
she's saying that, he uses it in like a manipulative way,
like whenever her and her because he feels like he
feels like she can't talk to our baby foup unless
it's about the child. Like they do business together. When
I say they're like me and Rome, they're like me
and Rome, So they do business together, they're friends. They
do talk outside of their child as your brother, baby, daddy.

(01:14:45):
Yeah that is, that's what it is, yes, and and
and that's it, you know. But her boyfriend has an
issue with that. If it ain't about the child, it
shouldn't be. But nothing, you you know. And and then
he'll even go to far and say, all right, well,
look I'm going to the graduation with with my X
to support the daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Let's let's sen up the phone.

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
So cool with with your baby.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
And you know what I'm saying, why I can't still
be Well.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Let's open up the phone lines eight hundred five eighty
five one O five one. Let's let's ask what's your
thought to see? I feel like the relationship moved on
and they've only been in a in a relationship for
a year. He's gonna have to wean his wean himself
off from that girl, right because she's eight years old.
The mom is gonna date other men she can. But

(01:15:29):
that's why I said wean off slide. But she has
a dad. I mean, she has a father. That mom
is gonna be dating other dudes. That's gonna be in
that relationship, and that's gonna make his new situation feel
a little funny, and also in the in the other situation,
I feel the same way too, Like you can't have
an X that y'all so cool, it would make me
feel a way that's not I'm your man, that's not
your man, that's your baby daddy. Y'all can talk about

(01:15:51):
the kids. Y'all could be cool, but it can't be
a whole, big, happy family, like we all in the
same house.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Like I'll never find happiness.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
That is not what he said. That's probably what you think,
but he is. It's not true.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
But let's open up the phone line and discuss eight
hundred and five eight five one oh five one. There's
a lot of moving parts in this, so we'll discuss
when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club one morning,
the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
It's topic time called eight hundred and five eight five
one five one to join into the discussion with the
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Morning. Everybody, you seej Envy Charlamagne the God, we are
the Breakfast Club. Because Jess Hilarious is here now. Somebody
emailed Jess and wanted them to fix their mess. Now, Jess,
what was the email?

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
What was the question?

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
So it was it was very broad. But basically, this
girl has a boyfriend who uh uh, she does well,
she has a baby father, and they are somewhat similar
to me and Rome situation. They're very very cool clothes,
they do business together, and her boyfriend has a child
that he is a a to you from a previous relationship,

(01:17:03):
that's not his biological daughter, but he still is very attached, wary.
They were only in a relationship for a year and
he grew attached to this little girl, and he kind
of uses that as leverage for the girlfriend being cool
with her baby daddy and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
For people who just might be listening to the Brothers club,
Roome is just his baby's father with their like brother
and sisters.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Yes, it is her baby daddy brother right, Yes, So
I mean I really would say, once you break up
with the mom, especially that's not your child, you break
up with that baby too.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
They only been together one year.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Yeah, that's how I feel. And the baby got a father, Yeah,
baby has a father. Yes, I'm sure the woman is
dating somebody else. Yes, so not all three of us
gonna be at the all three of us in the
mom gonna be at the graduation. So no, once you
break up with that mom, you break up with the baby,
especially if it's only been a year, Like, you gotta
let that baby go. That's not your child. But also
in a new situation, I would look at that different.
You gotta set boundaries.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
You just can't.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
You can't. You and your baby father can't be all
cool and together and shop. Nah, like this is a
new relationship. I respect what you have together. This ain't
this one big family and.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
It ain't even no time a year a year, Like,
why first of all, he shouldn't even be meeting your
child after the year, And how you grow a bond
with a whole child in a year?

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
First of all, I can't hide no nigga from my
child for a year grown up, so you know. Yeah,
But and then the little girl was like nine ten,
you know, she's she's older. So it's like, yo, all right,
like she already knows her father. She spent the last
year with one year with you. And yeah, you kids
are very impressionable. You're a good guy. He's good with
kids and stuff, and that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
But do you really know a person after the year
they have them a run?

Speaker 9 (01:18:31):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
And then why is your mom trying to be the
dad collector. This is not what we're gonna I'm saying,
we're not gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
You know, let's go to the full life. Hello, who's this?

Speaker 15 (01:18:42):
Hey, Valdosta Georgia.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
What's up, bro?

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
What's your thoughts?

Speaker 7 (01:18:46):
Man?

Speaker 17 (01:18:46):
I say, man, I don't feel like that's right, because.

Speaker 12 (01:18:49):
When when you're in a relationship and you start something new,
you don't want to bring on luggage from the path
back and tend to rekindle something.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
You know what I'm saying, So leave that baggage. I
appreciate that y'all be breaking up with kids.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Boy, y'all cold, okay, But she got a dad, and
now she got dad because the mama's someone else.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
I think justice right, three dad, that's a dad.

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
Horse.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Let's just say that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
Collect like that.

Speaker 17 (01:19:15):
Hello, this is Chelsea Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Mama, what's your thoughts?

Speaker 11 (01:19:20):
My thoughts are, if she's entering a relationships, she does
need to spend some boundaries with her babye father. But
it also sounds like.

Speaker 17 (01:19:30):
He's just being petty.

Speaker 11 (01:19:31):
Yeah, and the only reason he only wants to be
around the little girl is because she's around her baby father.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
That's what it sounds like.

Speaker 17 (01:19:39):
Don a baby Yeah, don't you fund like you care
about the little girl.

Speaker 11 (01:19:43):
He just wanted to diss off his girl for Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
Yeah, yeah it sounds like that because she said he
uses it as leverage. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Because you love somebody, you accept everything that comes with him, right, Yeah,
like if you if somebody loves Jess, you gotta accept
the child.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
They gotta accept Ron, they gotta accept everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Say, except Room, because he always makes things. You gotta
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
You gotta accept Rome.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
But also people gotta understand if somebody is dating somebody
with a baby daddy and the baby daddy's cool. A
lot of times, the baby daddy's cool because you want
as close as normal for the child. My child is
still under age, that's right. I'm gonna be here, bro,
that's right, because you want the child to feel comfortable.
And like, no, I can call my mom, I can
call my dad. My mom and dad are cool.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
I should come to them. Now, this new gentleman and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Here I got it that he's dating my mom and
I respect him. But you still want, you know, to
feel as normal as possible.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
Yeah, and telling you my my son loves me and
his dad's relationship and he loves that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
How do you feel when other guy's come around.

Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
I mean, I don't introduce them to everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
See my guy's coming around all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:20:46):
I'm a collect.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Don't listen to everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Shut up, hello this.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Thought.

Speaker 17 (01:21:01):
I'm sorry I couldn't hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
I said, what's your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Mom?

Speaker 5 (01:21:03):
Your dad?

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Collector?

Speaker 17 (01:21:04):
Okay, so my thoughts are I definitely think that after
only a year and a half of dating someone that
you shouldn't even have.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
A bond with the child.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
I agree.

Speaker 17 (01:21:15):
I think a lot of problem with people that are
dating that you know, have children. They just introduce their
kids to people too soon. I mean maybe like a
high end vibe maybe passed by, but an eight year
old and a man like absolutely not. So he needs
to win hisself off and the mom released a thing
better next time. Like you wouldn't have this problem if

(01:21:37):
you want to introduce your child before you really even
knew the person.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
But I kind of disagree though, Like if if a
woman is dating a man and the woman has soul
custody of that child, right, So that means if a
woman is dating you know, at first to get serious
and then they start going.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Out a lot. So when I go out a lot,
what am I going to leave my son at home myself.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
No, after after a while, six seven, eight months, you
start taking your child with you because you want.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
To see how that man it's with your child.

Speaker 18 (01:22:01):
So that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
Now I disagree with you. I don't think that's too soon.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
Now you go out a lot, and if that person,
if you really into that person, just think about when
you started dating your wife.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
I started dating with my wife. We were around each
other a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
And if you have a child, a young child at
the time that's eight nine, you're gonna be taking that
child to plays and games and this and that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
Because this is not just somebody that you just hitting
and missing, you know what I'm saying. This is somebody
that you you may not see yourself with them for
the rest of your life, but it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
All right, I mean I'm feeling you see what you
don't feel like you're gonna be with the person for
the rest of your life.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
You gotta get this man from time.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
So why I said, I don't introduce everybody to ask.
But when I feel like there's like, okay, this is
like something and you're giving me butterflies and I'm actually
talking to people about you, I do feel like there
is something, you know. So when a girl gets that feeling,
she would a long time. So she feels like that right,
and she's she's gonna bring that. I don't think it's

(01:22:58):
wrong with her introducing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
The after, depending on how tight that relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
But it's up to the guy.

Speaker 5 (01:23:03):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
If it's done, it's done. After a year or year
and a half, wean yourself off the baby. I'm not
saying just completely cut yourself out, but wean yourself off.
It didn't even explain. So if she you that close
with a look, your mom collected me.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
So we're done.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
The question is what's the question? Breaking down again, it's
a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
Oh my god, should you stop being cool with your
and your exes family for your new man, Dave bar
it's just ever gonna be able to find you happiness
because rooms in her life.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Hut up, man, We'll take it. Calls when we come.

Speaker 4 (01:23:38):
It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
Good morning, more thing everybody, It's DJ env Charlamagne the God.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
We are the Breakfast Club. Jess Hilarious is here now.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
If you just joined us, we're asking eight hundred and
five eight five one on five one what's the question.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Okay, there's a lot of moving parts, so all right, charlamage,
what is the question? What would you say?

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
I thought it was, you know, basically, should you stop
being cool with your ex and you know your ex's
family for your new man?

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
Do you cut off a child from a previous relationship
going into a new relationship if it's not biologically yours?

Speaker 5 (01:24:10):
There you go both.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
Yes, I think you do, depending on how close you
and the child does So, if you raise that child,
Let's say you've been with that person for eight to
ten years. I'm saying because we're just question, but if
you ask a question, you gotta have boundaries.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
You got to explain.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
If it's long time and you raised the child, yes,
I think you should still be in that child's life,
but it was only a year like this situation.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Yeah, I just say that disagreed.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
I didn't disagree and be dead, but I didn't disagree.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Yes you did, didn't You actually did?

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
No, you said a year was too soon to introduce
to the child. I'm like, yeah, it might not.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Be too You disagree with throw car show, throw my
own car.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
Shatter, start with what you're gonna do?

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Well, my call show is this Sunday, by the way,
Memphis made fine and under a free There's gonna be
calls from young Dolph, Keyglock fifty cent b and myself.
If you haven't got your tickets, to get your tickets now.
Can't wait to see you in Memphis. All right, now,
let's get to the Polo Hans. Hello, who's this morning?

Speaker 17 (01:25:13):
This is day for making tors Hey Jay, talk to us.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
What's your thoughts?

Speaker 17 (01:25:17):
Okay, So I got two things. First thing is, Jessica,
I'm so glad you are there this morning. You always
give good insight, never one. But just tell your friend
that he is a placeholder for him, that dude is
still trying to show up and hope that she'll see
Oh he did. He's that type of father to somebody
that's not even his death, not even his real child.

Speaker 11 (01:25:40):
And I can take him back.

Speaker 17 (01:25:42):
He's going number two and he I know you were
the one to answer the phone. The fact that you
talked out and said the extremes are either they got
to be beefing like Christ and blood as baby Mama,
baby daddy, or the opposite of that is big, happy
family and everybody living in the same house. There are
so many levels between that when it comes to relationships

(01:26:04):
between parents, and just told you that they have businesses
together and things like that, so they can't communicate and
have a healthy relationship. One of the biggest things about
both parents is respect, respect of the other parents, respect
of their relationships and all of that. There's levels to it.
It does not mean that they are instantly involved and

(01:26:25):
there's anything going on under the table. There are levels
to it. And speaking of the faith that you can't
pop from because all your kids are here, I can't.
I can't relate, Ran, but either of y'all can't relate.
But y'all also have both stepped out on your wife.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
What whoa whoa?

Speaker 7 (01:26:43):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
What you bringing up? Old stuff? Stuff?

Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Okay, continue, I'm just saying.

Speaker 17 (01:26:58):
I'm I told her to be seventeen this year. He
and her dad do business together. We have not had
any dealings since I was pregnant with her. It's just
right this year, That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
There's a mutual.

Speaker 17 (01:27:10):
Respect understanding that I have for his relationships and situations
and that he has for mine as well. But we
we do not argue, we don't fight, we don't do
any of that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
Yeah, what does your new man, think about it.

Speaker 17 (01:27:22):
He don't have a problem with it because they've been introduced.
They we spend time together on holidays, all the day.
It's no problem. If you create any man that is
creating drama and bringing that into my space, my energy,
my family, he wouldn't be there anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
That's right, that's right now. I agree with everything she's said.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
I'm gonna tell you something that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
There's been such a negative narrative around baby Mama's and
baby daddy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
We always expect it to be drama. So when I
see situations like justin.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
Rome and how they co parents so well, I didn't
know it was so many people out here co parenting
so well, I'm not But.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
Co parenting is not the problem. I don't anybody you
have to co parent, That's not the problem. The problem
is when your cole parents like actually being friend. That's
that's not the problem. The problem is when I feel
like they cross the lines. Right, and sometimes I feel
like people cross the lines in that situation, Like with
the individual that you said, I feel like he's crossing
the lines. Meaning they've only been together a short period
of time. There's no reason to still be in that

(01:28:16):
child's life like that, that child has a father, that
child has a new boyfriend that the mom has. So
it's to the point now where there's no reason to
be there. It's just what makes sense. Yeah, you know
in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
And then also, were not talking about me girl from
making Georgia? You sure, yeah, because you see how she personalized.
She was like, just so tell your friend that you
and your baby father like y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Do sound personal And when you were describing it, you
were saying, my mask.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
I told you people write me all the time, slipping
up said, I wrote myself and I told myself.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
And slipping up first, I didn't know you stepped out.
What's what happened with you in the marriage? Okay, thank you,
I'm moving on. Yeah, yeah, we know the one personalitation?

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
What about yours? Is right?

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
That book? I did shook it the one.

Speaker 5 (01:29:04):
What's the story?

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
The moral of the story don't don't use.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
No damn leverage. The moral of the story is, look
everything you do, not bring. And then it's kind of
hard to say don't bring baggage from other relationships, because
I'm not trying to say anyone's child is baggage. My
thing is I would never say that. The thing is,
you have to it's so. It's because I'm so conflicted
on it. It's like you have to be open enough

(01:29:31):
to bring all the facts before you get into another relationship.
This is what I had going on here. It's gonna
be hard breaking his bomb with this little girl, but
you gotta be willing to try to do that, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
All, Let's say that the situation was with you, right,
and you met a new man you loved, but he
just he felt uncomfortable. He felt that you in Rome
were too close with each other, y'all spoke too much
because you were in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Y'all didn't get y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
No, I'm never gonna cut Rome.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
But let's say he wanted to set boundaries to make
sure he was comfortable.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
I do get that. Look, it happened. It happened before.
Rome used to call me anytime of the night, and
I used to answer any time of the night.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
You used to have real bad drinking problem, fall asleep
behind the wheel. This ain't nothing to everybody, don't know,
but like, you know what I mean. So I would
go get him. I would since somebody get just anything.
But I was also enabling him a lot and then
just too accessible for him, which also like spoiled them
a lot. So I did set boundaries myself. And even
it was a guy that was like, yo, this nega calling.
He was one o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Now, I mean, I feel me and you in bed
at one o'clock in the morning and you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Go pick him up.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
I'm a feeling the way.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
No, I never did that, but that's when I did
set the boundaries. When this guy did say, Yo, this,
this is a lot, and I'm like, all right, you're right.
So no, Rome, don't call me at denying, don't call
me after that. Even when you called me about advice,
I would say, just kind of lay off. I'm talking
to this guy, and like it's like this, we you
do cross boundaries and I'll let you. I allow you.
So it's not all your fault. But we got we

(01:30:56):
got a chill.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
I understand what yourvice thing. But if Rome need help,
like you know, he don't want.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
To drink, I have to, like you come with me
if you want, you know what I mean. But like
that's my friend, that's my family, just like it's different
the new Man.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
Don't understand that you got to build a wall. To
build a wall between the new Man and the baby daddy,
don't don't do it. Justice, let it go, just let
it got Just let it go.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Justice, look at just what the mess is up?

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Next?

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
We got some room, miss, Yeah, we.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
Got some rooms.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
We'll get to it nextus. Just look, yeah, we'll be
back at the breakfast club. Good morning morning everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
It's d J n V. Charlamagne the guy. We are
the breakfast Club. Let's get to the roomors. Let's get
to Jess with the miss.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
It's just.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
This is the room of report on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
Honeys get so Holly Berry her and Fancasia star And
how Halle Burry doing it? Oh helly bai. I was
gonna say, Halle Burdy can't be no damn color purple girl.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
She definitely could be.

Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
She could have been. It's just some things that you know,
how you have those actors that you can see doing
you can't see doing certain things. Halle Barry, what she will?
Who paut what she would play?

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
Real quick?

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
Pop in your mind, Color Purple, Holly.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Barry, that's my wife's favorite movie. But I can't think
right now.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
Right right? Ain't nobody losing no children in there?

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
You thinking?

Speaker 4 (01:32:22):
Look, so it's Halle Bailey, Halle Bailey, her Fantasia.

Speaker 7 (01:32:29):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
They start in a color purple trailer. Wow, yes, another
color purple. They're doing another color purple.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
Exactly what my wife says yesterday. Why are they remaking
color purple to leave color purple?

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
They really do? They really really do yesterday when the
brothers released the trailer for the Color Purple musical film.
Also Sierra Daniel Brooks and Saraji p Henson will also
appear in the film.

Speaker 16 (01:32:49):
What is You going?

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Ain't nobody pop locking in no damn color purp ever's
in the Color Purple? Even singing Lord boy, she's so
cute like you keepe to be up and negar?

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
I mean, ain't you to keep it?

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
This ain't a movie, but I take I think I
haven't seen the trailer, but Color Purple is one of
those movies that I feel like in twenty twenty three
they would water down a lot. Oh yeah, absolutely, you
know what I mean. Listen, Sierra, I don't think they
need to do that. I just think they would water
it down. So I can't see a twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
I don't want to woke version of color.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
You want to hear the trailer, Yeah, let's here the trailer.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
Today.

Speaker 18 (01:33:25):
I teach the Times about a place called Africa.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
She said, our mom's come. Queen's over there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
We royalty.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Afternoon. It needs me a while.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
Even if we have to part, you and me, I
have one heart. Yeah, I'll write you every day. Oh
like that was my sister.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
It's time.

Speaker 4 (01:33:53):
But you see the world, there's gonna be some changes made.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
They say me, hush, we need to look like we belong.

Speaker 18 (01:34:06):
We heard, are just kings and queens.

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
Hard as the center of the universe.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
It's hard. You don't want to knock something before you
see it. Look color purple as a classic film in
the bar is so high. It is like you said,
you don't want to knock it. But I just don't
feel the pain.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
I feel the pain.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
I feel like a little mermaid. I feel like I
can oh no, no, no, yeah for sure, But I
feel like this gave us the holly. I mean, uh,
little mermaids, you know feel in the beginning. But I go, lie,
I'm excited to see Roggi p Henson.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Roggie gavery.

Speaker 9 (01:34:42):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
I need to see that because she gives it every time.
She's never disappointed for me. And the fantasia that's sick.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
I can color.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
Lay silly. She better give me a she better give
you one of those. She goes, she gonna scream to
the kingdom come, I love it, all right, and then
this version of the film seems to be focused more
on the sisterhood aspect of the story of the film
is produced by Oprah, Quincy Jones and Steven Spielberg. I think, yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
Acted original producer she was.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
I thought it was for that and beloved. Yeah, produced
by Oprah for sure. All right, so we're gonna move on.
I prayed that that's great. Uh yes, I did, my God, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Think it's.

Speaker 13 (01:35:44):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
Six nine immortalized Wow with mirl in one of Mexico's
most dangerous neighborhoods. Okay, So he had went to one
of the most notorious cities in Mexico, right, and they
call it the barrio, that's what they call it. And yeah,
well stay away. It's called Barrio bra all right. And

(01:36:05):
that's like a real bad city. That's when it's given
like real bid right, and they have a mural of him,
like they were celebrating him, like, oh my god, what
a mural playing with her?

Speaker 5 (01:36:15):
What is it called?

Speaker 4 (01:36:15):
What y'all say, m a mural. It's spelled m u r,
so it's a mural. They got this big mural up
of him, right, And when six I got there, like
he was mobbed by so many fans. They were showing
love or whatever. I think that they were just so
happy for him being Mexican that they forgot that he
was a snitch.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
Now he gives money to the community.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
He goes out to Mexico, he gives like, oh, that's
one thousands of dollars to the thousands and thousands of
dollars to the kids. He gives them hundreds of dollars
when he comes out there.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
But at the same time, you got the Mexican car.
I tell you, got all these like real notorious Mexicans
who know they know when he's giving money. They probably like,
all right, we ain't snitch over here, so we're cool.
But I just I don't. I just didn't think that
that would be something then that they would be okay with,
Like it's some serious gangsters over there, man.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
But moving on.

Speaker 4 (01:37:04):
Nick Cannon believes Bruno let me, I gotta tease it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
No, get it off yet?

Speaker 10 (01:37:10):
A right?

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
Nick Cannon believes Bruno Mars has more hits than Beyonce.
That's a joke in itself.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
That's by the way. I don't know if it's a
lie or not, but I know it can be proven.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
I know Beyonce has thirty top ten hits, twenty as
a solo artist, seven number ones.

Speaker 4 (01:37:24):
It is the last person to be talking about ahead,
come on.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
And for number ones with Destiny's childs. I'm sure that's
something you can actually document with Nick.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
No, no, Nick, what are you saying? You're saying you tired?
And Nick Cannon talking about music.

Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
Yes, I'm always.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Talk about me.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
You can have nothing to do. We gotta go and
be back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Let's get to everybody. It's the j MV.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Jesse Larius
is here. Jeff Bezos, the world's third richest man. Jeff,
you had a chance to hook up with him.

Speaker 1 (01:37:56):
Why are we telling this story now at nine o'clock.
We need to wait and save this for the Oh
my god, I did no.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
Damn y'all, y'all play he had a chance to look
up with the third richest man, and he just recently
got engaged trying to holler at you.

Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
No, I didn't know. It's still a chance he just
got engaged.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
Ain't right yet.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
I need to hear about this tomorrow. Just gonna be
back here tomorrow. I need to hear this story.

Speaker 4 (01:38:18):
You'll be watching this.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
We need to put this on prime time. I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
We can't do this at ninety billion. I need to
hear this store.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Oh my goodness, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
We gotta do this.

Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
Oh my god, miss oboe be when we come back.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
We got the positive note.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
You know, he put a statue of his of his
fiance on their like I think it's like a five
hundred million dollar yacht. He got it a statue of
a Yes, it's like, like I say, like a little
statue on the front of the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
Oh wow, Wow, that ain't really a wow.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
I'm gonna tell you why. It ain't really the third
richest man in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:38:55):
That's the way we put a statue on the yacht.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
He's supposed to be doing stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
That's Jeff Bezos to normalize everything.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
I'm just saying it's not normal. That's normal for him.
This body has done that because he's Jeff Bezos.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
If Jeff Bezos isn't doing excravag and things like that,
I'm gonna think something wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
You know what I mean? That ain't excressed.

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
I may not even heard of anything like that before.
He just gotta seem like it's so beneath him. He
don't care. I'm right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
When we come back. We got the positive note is
the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Everybody's EJ n V. Charlamagne
the guy. We are the Breakfast Club, Jesselarius. We appreciate
you for joining us. You'll be back tomorrow. You got
shows this weekend Rhode Island.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
Yes, I do, Providence, Rhode Island, Comedy Connection Friday and Saturday.
We got four shows altogether. Get your tickets at essellariusofficial
dot com. If you're not doing anything and you're looking
for something positive to watch. Every Monday night at eight pm,
Just Hilarious drops a YouTube series. It's called The More
with my last name, The More you Don't Know. It's

(01:39:57):
like a docu series of me documenting my life. The
other side of just Larius all except the love you're
gonna be getting it. You might even get a little
bit of that. I might show it. I might not.
We don't know. Y'all got to stay tuned to see.
First season is already premiered last night at eight pm.
Y'all watch it my YouTube channel, just Larious. It's in
my link tree. It's attached to all of my socials, y'all.

(01:40:19):
Make sure YouTube. YouTube is the only place that lives.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
All right, And now don't forget this week.

Speaker 3 (01:40:23):
And of course I'm in Memphis for my car show
kids fiving under a free family fun Day, cars from Dolph,
fifty key Clock, myself and more. Yo. We should you
know you said something earlier about South Carolina. I want
to do a car show of South Carolina. So many
people have been calling me about a car show. I
just don't know a space say the words we should.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
I would do Columbia. You want to do Charleston? Probably
lasting Fairgrounds. What's the biggest city, because I would love
to do on that This city. Charleston is the biggest city.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
Would you do? Where's the call? Coach is the biggest?
Where people will come out? Oh they'll come, They'll come anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
You don't think Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
I mean, people have done car shows in Colombia. They've
done shows in Orangeburg. They call shows the Lasting Fairground
in Charleston. Better what you want to do. I've got
a lot of people from the Carolina. Is that that
reached out?

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
I mean, and it's crazy because I spoke to shout
to the baby and the whole baby's camp and all
of them, because they even told me that the baby
has a bunch of cars down to South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
Carolina is a great place to do a call show.
The people have done car shows historically. I don't know
nothing about No Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:41:23):
Well, the babies from Charlotton a lot of cars, So yeah,
that would be dope.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
I forget what you want to do?

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
It set it up all right when we come back.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
We got Oh no, it's time for the posta you
got for us?

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
Yes, the positive notice simple man comes from one of
my favorite Instagram pages, The Healing Guy. Your character will
outweigh any lie told about you because those that know
you know you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Breakfast clubs, you don't finish for y'all dumb

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