FULL SHOW: Happy Thanksgiving From The Black Mothership

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FM

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Wait, wait, White, you guys really are like the hip hop,
early morning late night talk to Breakfast Club is the
most powerful popular urban radio show in.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
From the Black Mothership in New York Cities.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
You take Envy, Charlamage, the God and Jess Hilarious.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Thank y'all for being cultural leaders, man, I appreciate what
y'all do put the culture.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Collectively known as Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I'm always nervous when I do the Breakfast Club because
sometimes you say stuff and it's just gonna get you
in trouble.

Speaker 5 (00:34):
Everybody, wait, you would say yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
We actually out here.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
We were on vacation.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Listen, man, it's Thanksgiving. That's okay.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
We got to take a break too. We want to
eat too. But we have an amazing best of show
for you today. Because the Burke's Coup has been around
for fifteen years, we got a lot of classic conversations,
a lot of classic moments that we can play for y'all,
and two of them actually are.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
From this year.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
That's right, because it's all about family to they write
a Thanksgiving that's.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Right, So one is about a great union. Gucci Man
and Keisha Kyo.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Gucci Man and Kishi k yoall an amazing husband and
amazing wife who are there for each other and they
are both each other's crutches. And what I love about
this conversation is that it talks about the importance of
mental health. Yes, if you read Gucci Man's new book Episodes,
which you absolutely should, he talks about his battles with
bipolar as well as schizophrenia, and you know what he

(01:39):
did to contain what he's been doing, what he does
to contain it. And Keisha plays a big part in that. Man,
So can't wait to replay that conversation this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Also, and two brothers who are nominated for Grammy of
the Year.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
They got the best Rap album of the Year. To me,
I think so, and it's not even close. I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
So we're gonna be talking to them in a little
bit as well. All right, Well, let's get the show cracking.
Get on the calls. Eight hundred and five eighty five.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Were not even hear the hands of the phone?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Are you so used to lying to people about the
People's Choice mix that you're talking about get on the
phones for what when people calling?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Get it off the chest. We ain't got to be
here for that. They can call.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
We get over up the phone lines right, can handle
it all right, if that's what we do.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
They can talk to Red. Okay, call up, talk to Red.
It's the breakfast logan morning.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
Ray right, Ray Yo.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Charla mane yams?

Speaker 7 (02:21):
What up are we lost?

Speaker 3 (02:23):
This is your time to get it off your chest.

Speaker 8 (02:24):
I got an indoor pool.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
Outdoor pool.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
We want to hear from you on the breakfast club.

Speaker 9 (02:29):
We can get on the phone right now.

Speaker 10 (02:30):
He'll tell you what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
We lie Hello, who's this?

Speaker 11 (02:34):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Hey, good morning? Get it off your chest.

Speaker 8 (02:37):
I'll your crap.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
This is the in Florida.

Speaker 8 (02:41):
I'm just getting off my chest. I broke up with
my boyfriend over the weekend. I found out he was
cheating on me. And this at least your fer minute
brown Tee's like it was crazy. But allow my standards
to deal with that man completely, Like when against my pipe. Man,
if I'm going to deal with the same time and
I'm going back to my saw, I can hands.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
So.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
So you're a stripper and he cheated with you with
another stripper, No, I'm not a tripper, okay, No, he.

Speaker 8 (03:08):
Cheated with a stripper. I found out about the surper
over the weekend.

Speaker 12 (03:12):
Her teeth for brown, what her body look like?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Though, you telling us what look like?

Speaker 8 (03:17):
And that's what made the worst. That's what the words
who bad, horrible, legal like it was. I don't even
argue with the man. I just I just all my
in the middle of the night.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
And what's her instagram? So you might you a little
you might be a little bit jaded. You need to
let us judge whether or not you know she's trash
or not. What's her instagram?

Speaker 8 (03:36):
I don't have her instagram. I give you my instagram,
but you're not.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
I'm not interested in seeing you. You got cheated though,
like you don't want to see I want to see.
I don't want to see what he cheated with.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
But I'm sorry you have to go. What is your instagram?

Speaker 8 (03:51):
It's not even worse she trashed.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
What's your instagram? Let me look? What's your instagram?

Speaker 8 (03:57):
My instagram is Pineapple.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
I can joy v y Oh, let's see. It's not
coming up for me. Nope, it's not coming up. I'm
sorry you got cheated on, though, I really am.

Speaker 8 (04:12):
It's okay, it was only it was.

Speaker 12 (04:15):
Are you really sorry? You're a smirking pineapple for you
don't believe him?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
I'm sorry, sorry you got cheated on. How old is
your boyfriend?

Speaker 10 (04:24):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (04:24):
My god, too old to be cheating?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
How old are you?

Speaker 13 (04:26):
Tell me about it?

Speaker 8 (04:28):
Tell me about it?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
How old are you start? Two? Oh? Lord, have mercy?
But I'm sorry, mama, it's okay.

Speaker 8 (04:36):
The water under the bread, we don't even fight.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
I'm not more deal, it ain't worth it. How old
the scripple? Y? Shut up? But she looked fifty in
the face. Jesus, Hey man, I'm sorry pineapple?

Speaker 14 (04:51):
Goya keep what is the last letter?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
That was? All right? I don't know what she said?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Just me neither have a good week. Have a good
week though.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Forty three years old is too old to be cheating.

Speaker 15 (05:02):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Who's this? Hey?

Speaker 14 (05:03):
What's going on?

Speaker 6 (05:04):
Man?

Speaker 14 (05:04):
This cat man from NC?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Your name is Cap? Yeah man, Cap, no, Cap, nobody
believes you? Good morning?

Speaker 14 (05:11):
Hey listen, hey, yeah, listen, No, I believe this. I
really got to get this off my chest.

Speaker 16 (05:15):
Man.

Speaker 14 (05:15):
Okay, look all right, sure look man, my child's mother
tip me off the child support and you know it's
kind of crazy because I just co signed for on
a on a vehicle.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
What kind of vehicle?

Speaker 9 (05:29):
Twenty twenty two?

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Honest CRV. Okay, okay, I'm.

Speaker 14 (05:33):
Saying I ain't no Kanye West nothing.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
It doesn't matter, bro. She got some nice wheels to
get around, that's all. That's all she needs.

Speaker 9 (05:39):
Yeah, but I mean.

Speaker 14 (05:40):
She still came around to pit me on child support.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Well, clearly she needs a bit more of my child. Yeah,
that's the thing. That's the thing I don't be understanding though.
I want to when a when a person is actually
taking care of their child and providing for the mother
of their child, I don't think they should be getting
put on child suport. But for whatever reason, the coachs
don't recognize that.

Speaker 12 (05:55):
What's your communication? Like, like, your relationship is good, I
don't know, it could be a little bit better.

Speaker 14 (06:00):
I guess.

Speaker 12 (06:01):
Okay, so does the mediate like the person in the
middle with the child support just like does that make
it easier? Is like that a reason why she just
being petty?

Speaker 17 (06:09):
Nah?

Speaker 14 (06:09):
Because I own my own business. So it's like when
I have my child, I doubt shout out the cash
out when I have my child. I got her to
get cash outs. So it shows that out sitting there
like twenty thousand dollars now own my own little landscape
and business and what not down here. And she was like, yo,
she just sees the invoices for X amount and she

(06:30):
just assumes that she won't you know that? But I
gotta pay people, you know, say, I got overhead Expenson's
insurance audits and all types of stuff I don't even
know about.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
I feel what time you got to be to work
this morning?

Speaker 7 (06:40):
Oh man, I'm out here working right now.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Man.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Damn well, I'm glad you at work because you need
you need to get off the phone with us.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
You vented. Now you got to get back to work.
You can pay that child' support you okay, Yeah, live,
have a great man. Hello.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
Who's this?

Speaker 14 (06:53):
It's Randy.

Speaker 10 (06:54):
Randy from Virginia.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Brandy from seven to five to seven. What's up, Randy?

Speaker 18 (06:58):
What's up?

Speaker 14 (06:59):
What's dog?

Speaker 10 (06:59):
Good morning, Recforce Club, Good morning, Charla bang the morning,
just good morning and morning.

Speaker 19 (07:05):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 10 (07:06):
I listen to y'all every morning.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, thank you, we appreciate you. Well.

Speaker 10 (07:10):
What I wanted to get off my chest today was
it's nothing bad, nothing bad at all just I want
people to be mindful of the fact that it is
flu season, the fact that it is the season for
people to spread illnesses and infections. I'm a nurse here
in Virginia, and I see a lot of preventable UH
situations in our hospitals that could be prevented by people

(07:33):
just washing their hands, keeping their kids home when they're sick,
just being mindful of the climate and what's going on. People,
take care of yourself so we can take care of
each other. That's all I wanted to say.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well, Randy just is the flu police up here. She's
the cold police if you have.

Speaker 20 (07:48):
Already now, if you have a flu, if your.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Hands are dirty, not she ain't even the fluent cold police.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
She just sneezing cough police, and.

Speaker 7 (07:56):
Cold and COVID.

Speaker 20 (07:57):
There are symptoms.

Speaker 10 (07:58):
So yes, absolutely, Well we got a brand new baby.
You can't be playing out here.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
She's quarantining it right now with the baby period.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yes, right right now.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Ready, let me ask you a question in your personal opinion,
and just asking your personal opinion, what is your thoughts
on the flu shots because some people say take it,
some people say don't.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
What's your what's your personal opinion. Just curious, Okay.

Speaker 10 (08:18):
It just totally depends on a lot of times people
don't believe in the flu shots because of religious preference.
So I will not touch that at all because if
that's your religious preference, I totally understand. However, for preventative measures,
the flue shot is effective. So as a nerd, I
do advocate for the flu shot.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Absolutely.

Speaker 14 (08:37):
Thank you, Randy, Thank you, y'all.

Speaker 10 (08:39):
Have a good morning.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
You get it off your chest. Eight hundred and five
eighty five one oh five one. If you need to
vent hit us up now. It's the breakfast club.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Good morning, the breakfast Club. This is your time to
get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed.

Speaker 18 (08:55):
I hate the way that you walk, the way that
you talk, I hate the way that you dress.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Everything in me is best call up next. Eight hundred
five eight five five one.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Not just I'm with the coach of feeling.

Speaker 15 (09:07):
Hello.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Who's this? Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 9 (09:09):
Breakfast club?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
The guy you get up your chest?

Speaker 14 (09:15):
Brother, Hey, Charlotte, I'm a bally idiot listener.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Love it. Thank you, brother, thank you. But I got
to call you out that you just gave that you said, bro,
which which time.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Agreed on you.

Speaker 7 (09:33):
You said that you like to do tricks on your bday.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Like, I'll be gay. I don't care what y'all say.
That's one of the best investments I ever made in
my life. I don't flex too often, but that new toilet, Bro, how.

Speaker 20 (09:44):
Can you do tricks on over day?

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Get you over day and you'll find out.

Speaker 20 (09:49):
I don't need it, but day I gotta.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeahday is with the water. You know what I'm saying
in your button.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
You know we know what day is.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
What you mean tricks, You just gotta adjust yourself the
right way so the water hits the right spots.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
That's all. You just got one.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
You know, the water spins, they can do the water, toiling.

Speaker 15 (10:16):
Heat.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
See listen, if you invest in anything, invest in a
nice bed and a nice toilet.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
That's all I'm gonna tell y'all.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Okay, y'all, y'all spending your money in the wrong way.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Y'all be buying the jewelry and the cars, not nice bed,
nice sheets, nice toilet. Okay, that's what you're gonna care
about when you get older.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Slutor, Nor could about a year ago you eat? Two
years ago you eat?

Speaker 3 (10:35):
What's up? Ya? Gotta ask you about your day. I'm like,
damn yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
My ba date five, I got like sixteen different things,
Like I didn't even press all the button, Like you
got a little roll. Just show you with my settings,
Like I got the Eco flush flush, I got the
dry I got sime and oh my man, let me
tell you something nice bed, nice toilet.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Those are the important things.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Kids, all right, that sounds great anyway, crazy, get it
off your chest.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
You should be investing your money in five five, one
oh five one.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
You buy a new pair of design and something that
you can't even pronounce that ain't even gonna be in
next to.

Speaker 18 (11:14):
Y'all want to be so bad y'all, like y'all so old, y'all,
I'm grown, Okay, I'm just telling you what's important.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
One day, then you're gonna be like y'all are right?
They invest together? Have my fate for five years now.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
I enjoy it. Anniversar about the name mine.

Speaker 20 (11:29):
It sounds like a toy.

Speaker 18 (11:30):
It is no, I'm talking about liked it a vibrator
or something.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
And then the beautiful thing about mama day.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
It gives you time, right, so you press the button
to give you a few seconds to adjust that butt
hole just right.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Let that water hit that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
And they got temperture control on the water to sit
on cold. It's just night anyway, get it off your chest.
Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If
you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Everybody feet all the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
We're taking your calls.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Eight hundred five eight five one on five on.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
We were talking about this woman who hosted Thanksgiving dinner
at her crib. She said last year it cost her
over five hundred dollars and she couldn't afford it, so
this year she did spaghetti. So we're asking eight hundred
five eight five one on five to one, what.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Are your thoughts on that? What you think, Jeff?

Speaker 18 (12:22):
I know some people probably got there like is this
a baby shower? Like, you know, cause spaghetti and spaghetti
is mad?

Speaker 2 (12:27):
I expected a spread.

Speaker 20 (12:29):
I get it, this is the thing. I would have
been mad. She could have told them before they got there.

Speaker 18 (12:34):
To be honest with you, I mean, because maybe she
did not have it, YO, Like to be honest, spaghetti,
that's a struggle.

Speaker 20 (12:39):
That was a struggle.

Speaker 18 (12:40):
Meal like growing up for around my way, you know
what I'm saying. And I feel like if she didn't
have it, she just didn't have it. Why didn't y'all
bring food? Or she could, but she could have told
them that before they got there. Only thing y'all gonna
be eating is spaghetti. Like if y'all can pitch in
and help me cook or help me buy stuff, that's better.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
But I never looked a spaghetti as a struggle mial.
I looked at it as a delicacy that was a
gourmet meal with two pieces of white bread.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
And some corn.

Speaker 20 (13:06):
Then it's not spaghetti no more.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
That sounds like spaghetti.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
And there's some corn on the side, you know what
I'm saying, corners the side of some white bread.

Speaker 20 (13:12):
We were struggling, so we didn't have the coin. We
just had yellow. We just had the noodles, and we
had ground.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Noodles and butter, just noodles and butters and trouble milk.
If you got the noodles with the beef and the sauce,
the white bread and corn, oh that's a full course. Mill.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I don't eat red sauce, so I eat spaghetti with butter.
That's that's that's what I eat spaghetti. I don't eat
design a little butter.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
I'm good. Okay, that's a kid. I was struggling. It
was a struggling.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I just didn't that's just what you'll like.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, you keep forgetting that. He's he's lying black. Supposed
to picture my dad. They was like, you must be adopted. No,
I'm black, messed up. You might be adopted, not adopted.
I'm black. I'm black out like us.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
I'm about to see.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I'm about to see you defamation.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Hello, who's this? Hello? Good morning?

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Hey, what's something?

Speaker 9 (14:10):
What's going on? I didn't even know y'all had connected
the man? Good morning, going to teach to the god.

Speaker 15 (14:13):
What's going on?

Speaker 9 (14:14):
Game?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Peace?

Speaker 16 (14:15):
King?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
How are you? How you feeling?

Speaker 9 (14:17):
I'm good, bro, but look like what's up? Light speak peak?
But uh sell the ass home man.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
You know they're not gradling. Not keep their ass on.

Speaker 9 (14:29):
You're not ke asshole man. That's why I'm looking at it. Man,
family is everything. I think you come over to celebrate family,
get thanks, all praises. You know what I mean? You
can't contribute. You don't like to forget a gas man.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
That's something I'm with you. It's about family.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
If you get all the food stuff, is the fact
that you got family alive and healthy and together.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
That's the most important thing, not giving what you mean
he's given. The most important thing is the food. But
you know, the family to get food should eat. That
ain't true, y'all. Y'all don't y'all don't want to sit
around staying at each other face, starving. Y'all don't like
each other that much. But I do feel like you
should cook what you can afford.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You don't got to
jump out the window.

Speaker 20 (15:08):
And in this case, that's what she did.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
That's right, Brittany. At least you turkey ground for Thanksgiving,
turkey grown meat.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Jesus, good morning to Brittany.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
What your thoughts?

Speaker 19 (15:18):
My thoughts here?

Speaker 21 (15:19):
And to walk in on Thanksgiving and to see spaghetti, Uh,
that's kind of disrespectful. If she needed help, she could
have asked someone to bring the dish. Everybody understand that
times is hard, But to sit up there and to
just search spaghetti and to not even give the option
to offer to help. If I walk in and talk
spaghetti or Thanksgiving, I'm knocking it over because what it is.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
And now we're fighting in the house. You know now
my mama, My mama is spaghetti.

Speaker 21 (15:42):
We're not fighting nothing.

Speaker 19 (15:43):
I'm knocking it over because you should have asked for help.
It's about being thankful as it's a family thing.

Speaker 15 (15:48):
We also have contributed and came together.

Speaker 9 (15:50):
Don't just take it for.

Speaker 19 (15:51):
Yourself to ruin everyone's Thanksgiving because you broke stud.

Speaker 18 (15:54):
Damn Yeah, she's definitely stuff.

Speaker 21 (15:57):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 19 (15:58):
I have a deep and rasty y'all got a lot
of guys trying to step for me.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
You see, you see, it's just identifying you as a
stud for no damn reason.

Speaker 19 (16:09):
Nobody'll just trying to say to me, I live in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
We got to know.

Speaker 9 (16:13):
It's like twenty three degrees. I gotta I'm not I'm
not a I'm just a sack with a little rafty boy.

Speaker 20 (16:20):
It's not my bag.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
You're right, right, you get a profile and people you.

Speaker 20 (16:24):
Know, I'm sick in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Enabling people out here. I'm okay. She was just so aggressive.

Speaker 20 (16:32):
Assume she got I was gay. They said I was
the man when.

Speaker 19 (16:38):
Given I'm aggressive, but Thanksgiving is my favorite, So to
disrespect one of my favorites it's gotta go there right
feel the phone.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Didn't even halp on it.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Thanksgiving is one of our favorites because we like food
and we like fellowship.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
That's the reason. It ain't because of I don't even
know what the hell things give. I don't know what
the meaning of things.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
But I love the fact that family come. It's a game.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
We played cards, we played board games. That's what it's
about us. Who cares about the food?

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Eight hundred The food.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Is the most important thing next to the family. I'm saying,
who cares about the food? Because if you didn't care about.

Speaker 20 (17:10):
The food house, yeah talking.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Eight hundred five eighty five, one oh five, wan the
magic going to Thanksgiving dinner and when you get there
it's only spaghetti.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
How you feeling? Let's talk as the breakfast liuoco Morning.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I don't know if it's a turkey and the spaghetti
turkey ground turkey, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
It just looks like spaghetti spaghetti. We'll talk. That's the
breakfast s logo. Morning. Are you getting to the yam?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Since Thanksgiving we got more coming up with the best
of the breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
The breakfast club.

Speaker 14 (17:44):
Is dj nd Jen.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Ceilarious charlamage the guy we are the breakfast club now
if he's just joining us. We're talking about this woman
who said she wasn't paying for Thanksgiving dinner anymore. She
said last year was over five hundred dollars, she couldn't
afford it. So this year she did spaghetti. So we're
asking eight under five eighty five, one on five to one,
what are your thoughts? You got the pre on the
line to pre good morning whatever you morning man.

Speaker 9 (18:07):
It's a pretty on the baskets.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Man.

Speaker 11 (18:09):
Were not doing spaghetti as a thank Giving dinner table
the Pilgrims.

Speaker 14 (18:14):
Was not easy to get it.

Speaker 9 (18:15):
Man, we're going it away.

Speaker 18 (18:16):
Dang not damn, you're just gonna she already broke. You
gonna waste the food that she struggled to buy.

Speaker 9 (18:22):
No, we can help out.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
Now, we can help out. You gotta say something. We
can help out, but we is not baked beans and spaghetti.

Speaker 9 (18:29):
I think get it. No, bro, you messing up the
whole menu.

Speaker 17 (18:32):
Bro.

Speaker 16 (18:33):
We need the hem we need to holler greens, we
need the yms, the candy yems at that you better
put some mark ca.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 15 (18:42):
Yeah, they must up the whole.

Speaker 20 (18:43):
You should have said something. Yeah, she just should have
said something.

Speaker 18 (18:46):
Now, if she do, you have at least a little
bit of understanding toward the fact that that's the only
thing that she could afford.

Speaker 9 (18:53):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, and she can afford something different,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (18:56):
Bring some fruit? You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (18:58):
Yeah, some fruit?

Speaker 14 (18:59):
But the forget Yeah, no, you trying to do something
quick and easy.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
We need you to get in the kitchen. Okay, get
the kitchen.

Speaker 15 (19:06):
I appreciate you though.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
You thinking, Hello, who's this?

Speaker 10 (19:09):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (19:10):
This is.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
What part of South Carolina you call it from? Most three?
What's happening? I was there last week? So what you
think we talked to us?

Speaker 11 (19:21):
So I'm just applying to her for bringing.

Speaker 9 (19:23):
The family together.

Speaker 11 (19:26):
Had we the known, I would have rush it out
of breads.

Speaker 9 (19:28):
Somebody should have brought meatballs or something. I don't know.

Speaker 11 (19:31):
But the fact that she did that and her family
was together, that's all account But like you're saying, nobody hurting,
nobody eating hemp, so many left what she had to do?

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Now, you're absolutely right. Why did you didn't do a poplup?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Wheah?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
We ain't.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
I just thought about that. Why didn't do a pot up? Everybody?
Everybody bring a little dish?

Speaker 18 (19:50):
I literally said that you did the last ten minutes
said yeah, those words, And I'm like, why.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
You said, like ten minutes ago? Yeah, right, Like why.

Speaker 20 (19:58):
Didn't just bring food? Like that's dumb?

Speaker 6 (20:01):
Who is this is?

Speaker 22 (20:02):
Lamar?

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Lamar? What's where you calling from?

Speaker 6 (20:04):
I'm calling from Jersey?

Speaker 3 (20:05):
All right, talk to us.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
Yeah, be honest with you. Like if there's no food
and it's different ways you can look at this. If
she cooked the spaghettis from scratch, I'm kind of good
with that, you know what I mean. If she gave
me like raviolies or anything like that, then I'm gonna
have to ask questions like are you being funny you
know what I mean? Or maybe you're being creative? I

(20:28):
don't know, you know, solving out there. I don't know,
you know what I'm saying. But at the end of
the day, she got some food.

Speaker 23 (20:35):
On the table, that's right, and it's about being thankful
for the fact that she got food on the table,
you know what I'm saying. And Christmas is coming up,
so that like you know, November kids giving us like
the buffer you don't want to spend too much.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
Money on that holiday. You gotta save all that for Christmas.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
You got to get the gifts for Christmas for the kids.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
You're right, I do you feel me? So it was like,
I'm good, I'm not spending that bread. I'm spending a
break for Christmas.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
I do wonder why she didn't tell the rest of
the family though she spent five hundred dollars the previous
year and she didn't want have it to spend this year.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Why not just say that?

Speaker 16 (21:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Why not just tell the folks like, hey, man, you
know things tight. The cost of everything is up.

Speaker 20 (21:12):
That's the only thing.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
So y'all gonna have to chip in or y'all have
to bring your own dishes if we're gonna have to
have given dinner.

Speaker 20 (21:17):
You should have said something, because I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 18 (21:18):
If I walk in the house and I only see spaghetti,
I'm like, yo, damn, I had my mouth set on
turkey wings and all that, like, and you only got spaghetti.
So and they must go to her house every year,
like she must be the one that always holds, but she.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Ain't have it this year matters. If that's a mother
in law though. You go to your mother in law's house,
you walk in into this spaghetti.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Damn and also too.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Now you're realizing why those turkey drives and those food drives,
you know, it's why they mean so much during this
time of year, because people don't be having.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
All right, well, let's go to one more call. Hello,
who's this.

Speaker 8 (21:50):
Carolina?

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I eat it from North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
How you feeling?

Speaker 13 (21:53):
I'm great for work?

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Good?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Now what's your thoughts?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Now you get you get to the house and it's
only spaghetti there?

Speaker 3 (21:58):
What you how you're feeling?

Speaker 13 (22:00):
Yes, I would be upset by the same time. Yes,
brocues do cost money and a man, if you really
want me to cook that bad and just pit there
everybody you know, family coming over, Give me about thirty
fifty bucks plus the family and I'll make something happen.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
That's right, all right, thank you?

Speaker 19 (22:16):
You welcome your you too?

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Now what's the morel of the story?

Speaker 20 (22:20):
Man, do what you can, but definitely look out for
your family. Help your family.

Speaker 18 (22:24):
You feel me, don't don't don't be upset about don't
get too upset about it. Like you said, in my opinion,
Thanksgiving is about coming together, you know, like you said
the fellowship. I take both of what y'all said and
put it together. Yeah, it's about food. It's about the fellowship.
It's about the family and what you're most grateful and
thankful for.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
You feel me.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
And if you don't have gratitude, like if you go
to somebody house and you you like, oh, so you
got a spaghetti and you turn your nose up at it,
you're missing the whole reason for the season, Isn't it
about gratitude? Yeah, and the thanks and not only that,
And that's why you know, in this time of the season,
it's always a blessing to be able to give back.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
And that's why those.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Turkey drives, food drives where people get those fools a
lot of time do the turkey drive. But as you
can see that that is well needed at times where
people can't afford it. So if you can make sure
you do give back, or even if you just can
just go to those events and be a volunteer as well.

Speaker 15 (23:15):
And we got.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Man, but yeah, not for real.

Speaker 18 (23:21):
But also the more of the story is they could
have went to Golden Correl. Yeah this year they did
it the first time doing that where they had Thanksgiving
dinner and it was like discounted crazy turkeys, everything like
traditional things.

Speaker 20 (23:35):
Giving soul food. They had that. So if somebody come
to my house, oh yeah, you only gouts for to
hear take.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Ye down the street because how much you think?

Speaker 3 (23:44):
But they got everything there.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
They got, they got, they got mac and you could
have take and you can take it to go.

Speaker 20 (23:50):
You could have took it to go. You couldn't have
sit there. I mean you didn't have to sit there
if you didn't want to, but you could have took
it to go. Commercials was all over the place for that.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, so's the breakfast slug aboard it more than everybody's
DJ MV Jess Hilarius, Charlamagne and the guy.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
We are the Breakfast Club Lona Roasters here as well.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Now, you know, Thanksgiving is one of my favorite holidays
because I get to spend it with my whole family. Now,
I was telling Gia that one of my favorite memories
growing up was my mom cooking Thanksgiving dinner and playing
some of her favorite records on her old record player.
Now as a family, my family would come over, we
would listen to Motown the Gap bed.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
My dad would be.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Dancing that this year and my parents are coming over
to my house, so I want to recreate that old
family nostyalgia. So I went to their house last week
and got some of their favorite records from the basement.
Now Gied thought it would be a great idea to
find our family record player, so I went on eBay
and found the exact model. It's a vintage seers AMFM
record player with the eight track tuner. eBay is the

(24:46):
place for unique, hard to find items, and I can't
wait to see my mother's reaction when she opens it.
Shot eBay for millions of funds, each with a story.
eBay Things people love of the Breakfast Club more than
everybody is DJ and Jess, Hilarious, Charlamagne, the Guy. We
are the Breakfast Club. Now, this conversation is when Gucci
Main and his wife Kishi ky All stopped through talk

(25:08):
about his new book episodes.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
They talk marriage, mental health, and and everything.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
So we're gonna get into that.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Let's go morning.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Everybody is DJ n V, Jess Hilarious, Charlamage, the God.
We are the Breakfast Club. Lna ROAs is here as well.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed,
we got Gucci Maine. Welcome, how y'all feeling.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Y'all look amazing, Thank you new book out episodes.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yes, Man, I thoroughly enjoyed your book, Gucci Man, because
you know, we give people props when we were younger
for being real and a lot of things that we
say is real. It's like when somebody gangster with somebody,
you know, we call him tough. But to me, the
most realist thing you can do as you get older
just be vulnerable, you know what I mean, and go
on to journey of healing and share that journey with people.

(25:53):
And you definitely did that in this book.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
I appreciate that I always see you talking about mental
health while be listening to y'all. You always champion mental health,
you know what I'm saying. So that's my I said,
make sure y'all get that book to Charlotte Mane before
I come up there, because I knew he was gonna
read it.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, So what got you to the point where he said,
this is the time to share the story because most
people will say, like, you know, I don't want to
share that story. It might be embarrassing, it might let
make me look this way, but you will open and
completely open about it.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
What got you to that point was like.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
This is the time I had when I had an
episode in like twenty nineteen or twenty twenty round COVID,
and that was just like like after that, I was like, man,
I gotta really just hold myself accountable and take care
of my health. I don't never want to have an
episode again. I'm like, I'm gonna see a therapist. If
I had to take medicine. I just I kind of
like through the towel land like you know what I
need to do to get better. I just did never

(26:39):
want to have that happen again. And then my wife
was pregnant with my little boy, and I'm like, I
don't never want to I don't want to raise a family,
and then my mental health gone with. If I have
an episode, I can't come back from you know what
I'm saying. So I just like starting to do the
work and like start seeking the help.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Keisha, I'm glad you here because we always have conversations
about the people who have to deal with the individuals
with the mental mental health issues.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
It feel like nobody else speaks to y'all.

Speaker 12 (27:05):
It's tough.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
What made you not run because you could have ran.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
You could have been like, I'm not it same't for me,
but you stood ten toes down and said I'm gone.

Speaker 24 (27:14):
I experienced him going through episodes before we were married,
and I was like, man, somebody gotta help this guy.

Speaker 12 (27:21):
It was really, really bad.

Speaker 24 (27:23):
It's really sad because you're seeing someone you don't know.
They're saying things to you that are disrespectful, so mean,
and you have to just like, but I'm not talking
to Gucci, who is this person? So I felt like
if I left, he wouldn't have been the same. He
needed someone to help him. And then when we were
supposed to get married, someone said to me, you know

(27:44):
you're gonna have to deal with this through your marriage, right,
And I'm like, I'm cool with it. I'm going to
fix him.

Speaker 12 (27:49):
You know how heavy was that for you?

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Though?

Speaker 12 (27:52):
Because the fixing isn't like an overnight thing. I saw
Gucci you did a big facts and you were talking
about how one time you said to him, I should
record this so you can see because he wouldn't even
remember some of the things he was doing, but it
would like you'd be like, oh my god, like what's
happening right now? How heavy was it In the process
of trying to help him get back.

Speaker 24 (28:08):
It was one point I had to just go on
my knees and pray because it's like he's like I
don't like you. I mean, the things he would say
are really really bad, and I just have to like
take a deep breath. Like I said, I'm not talking
to you right now. You want to sit here and
be crazy alone, I'm not going to allow you to
be crazy alone, So like I have to like set
a plan up. Like at one point, I called his attorney,

(28:32):
I called some bodyguards, and I just planned a whole
kidnap and we kidnapped him and took him to the
hospital because we could not get him to the hospital.
But he was trying to fight them and everything, but
it was six of them. He couldn't handle it, and.

Speaker 12 (28:44):
We threw him in the car.

Speaker 24 (28:45):
He would try to jump out the car, so we
put him in the center of the car, you know.
And that was like his last episode when you go
to the like, yeah, but they try to do things
where he could sign himself out, and I'm like, he's
not signing, Like I'm stern with them. He's not signing
himself out. I'm his wife and I'm his barber attorney.

(29:05):
He ain't going nowhere Like I have to be strict.
It's kind of like you have to go in mother mode,
you know, and put your foot down.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Were you ever scared? I wasn't.

Speaker 24 (29:15):
Never scared he would hurt me. People were scared for me.
But it's a scary.

Speaker 7 (29:20):
Moment because I asked her that what she's scared. She
was like, I'm not scared of you.

Speaker 24 (29:23):
I tell him all the time doing it, I'm not
scared of you. So you we gonna figure this out,
Like I have to get gangster with him because he
and I'm like, all right, we gonna see.

Speaker 12 (29:31):
Let's do this.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
In the ice Cream Fever Dreams chapter Gus, you said
that the only you said when you need help, the
only person you can rely on is yourself.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yes, Why did you feel that way in that moment?

Speaker 7 (29:45):
Because that's how I felt, especially with like you're really
the only person you can do, Like you gotta do
the work yourself. You know what I'm saying. If you
want to, like really get better, people can want it
for you, but you still gotta want it more than
they do. You know what I'm saying. You gotta want,
you gotta do the work, you gotta live with it,
you know what I'm saying. So that's probably why I
said that.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
The reason I asked is because you start the book
off talking about Big Scar, and you know you and
Ke should definitely help Big Scar in that moment when
he was having an episode.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yes, I mean you did help somebody.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
I was trying my best to say Scar, I was
trying my best to save Scar, and like even he
was a big inspiration for the book as well. But
what it was like when I reached out to my
writing the co writer cat on writing a book. I
was telling her about you know, like how High helped
Scar and and you know I was my wife was
talking to me, but she was on like I wouldn't
even let Scott know that she was telling me the
stuff to tell him it like while we writing a book,

(30:35):
like discussing the book and just going over how we're
gonna make it. Scott died. So I hear her, like,
you know, Scott had passed away. It was all it
went for him being an inspiration before I can't finish
the book. He passed away. So that was just super
deep and it made me like I gotta do this.
I gotta even be more vulnerable because I'm gonna help
people that I don't even know I was because I
was trying to help somebody who was so close to me,
you know what I'm saying. He and I didn't even

(30:56):
and I didn't succeed.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
You know when you break down in the book that
September thirteenth episode, right, yeah, and you said you don't
even remember a lot of the things that you said.
Did you have to go back and say, you know what,
let me fix some of those situations is? And who
did you called first to say let me fix that?
Cause we were on there that morning and we just
remember it's like damn, Gucci just going crazy on everybody.
And the sad and the sad thing about it is

(31:21):
for media pressed, it's like that's goal at first, like
oh this that, and the other day when you sit
back and look at it, like damn, like maybe we
shouldn't have went that hard and promoted because we can
see now he was going through episode.

Speaker 7 (31:31):
So the first question, but the answer, Vin, I was
super embarrassed and hurt by the things I said because
like I wasn't well then, right, So then I got
locked up. So a lot of those people who I
was saying stuff too, they were like, I ain't. They
never gonna mess with me no more. So even when
I got out three years later, I still was like,
I apologized the Ross, Drake NICKI like all them people

(31:55):
accepting my apologies. I just don't know, it's like a
way off my shoulders because I had been like because
I was wrong, Like Ross hadn't did nothing but help me,
you know what I'm saying, And I said something about him.
Burt Man did all this stuff for me. Why would
I say something about him? So I felt bad, you
know what I'm saying. I felt terribly bad, and it
was just eat me. It was like it was super
heavy on me, you know what I'm saying. So I
apologize to everybody, everybody that would accept my apology that

(32:18):
I apologize to everybody who would accept my call. I
apologize to you. Just think anybody who I was dissing,
I apologize to.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
When you see artists doing that, now, do you know
exactly what they're going through?

Speaker 7 (32:29):
Yes, we were like, since that's going through episode, I
can see it because because I'd have been through it,
and I'm like, i'd be feeling sorry for him, you
know what I'm saying. But because I see the media,
they just go with it like this person like mad
or they being you know, like mean or whatever. But
they be like going through something really mental. It'd be
some mental help stuff going on.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Do you reach out to any of those artists.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
I'm trying to think did I reach out now? I
don't do a lot of reaching out because some of them,
like I feel like they wouldn't be accepting of it.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
But because you know, you wouldn't be accepted at the
point at that time, at.

Speaker 7 (33:00):
That point, you' you can't really talk to them like that.
But like my wife said, I wish I could talk
to the people that know them to tell them how
to help them. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 24 (33:09):
I tried to reach out to Kim when Kanye was
going through an episode. It bothered me so much, but
I don't know her and I didn't want to feel
like a groupie. Yeah, so I tried to send messages
to people. I never succeeded, but this was during their marriage.
I'm like, damn, I want to talk to her so bad,
like I can help you, but I never was successful.

Speaker 12 (33:26):
We talked about that on air the other day because
she sat down with her daddy and talked about what
it was like on the inside by also trying to
protect their public image and the way she thought people
would look at her if she decided to leave. For you,
what was it like, I mean talking about Kim, What
was it like just trying to protect the business that
you guys have built?

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Wow?

Speaker 24 (33:46):
I have asonally I take his apps off his phone.
First thing I do. I delete Instagram, I delete everything.
Even if I got to change his password, I'm changing
it because I don't need the public to know he's
having an episode. And now before the episodes come, I
catch it. So that's why he hasn't had another one.
And how you catch that is he doesn't speak to you.

(34:06):
He wants to be left alone. He don't eat, he
does not sleep. Text messages there's a period after each word,
and I'm like, you're going through an episode.

Speaker 16 (34:16):
You're sick.

Speaker 20 (34:16):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 24 (34:17):
Ain't not wrong with me. Why do you think that
you're not speaking to me? Well, there's nothing to talk about.
I said, Well, that's not how you speak to your wife.
And I'm like, you're sick and we snap out of
it right then, wow.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Wow, all right, we got more with Gucci main when
we come back in Kishi Kyo, so don't move. It's
to Breakfast Club, Good morning, pointing everybody. It's DJ Envy,
Jes Hilarius, Charlamagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club.
La La Rosa's here as well. We're still kicking it
with Gucci, Maine and Kishi kyoor Keisha. Do you wish
you around when when you know I look at Gucci
and if you really think about all the artists that

(34:50):
he has touched and could have signed, he could have
been bigger than any label out there. If you go
through them, we can go from from Thug to Waka,
to the Migos to the list goes on and on on.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Do you think we had Walker Wah?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Do you think if I was there I could have
helped them build that empire because he could have been
really like an Atlanta.

Speaker 24 (35:07):
Death Chair, a thousand person even like we had this
conversation many years ago. I said, Gucci, you just have
to accept that you're not well and fix it. Just
accept it, I said, people take town all every day.
Just take your medication every day, you'll be fine. Just
accept that you're sick. Fix it and you'll be okay.
And absolutely, he had so many artists from back in

(35:29):
the day, and because of this, you know, they re
signed with other people or whatever the situation is. And
it pisses me off because none of them respects him.
I don't or give him the credit like Gucci signed me.
Gucci's the one that got me out the slum. Gucci's
the one that changed my life. None of them talks
about that.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Not one of them does that, Bald, because it's it's
a lot of artists that are multi platinum that are
still selling records that you were the first person to
give an opportunity to.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
We could name the list. The list goes on and
on again.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
I feel like, you know, I had to hold myself accountable.
I got locked up. I messed up the opportunity, you
know what I'm saying. But I'm not saying that they
don't have to pay me. How much I appreciate it,
you know what I'm saying. But it's like that's part
of how I was raised and just who I am.
I get fulfillment out of helping artists. You know what
I'm saying. I was reaching met out to them, trying
to help them because I saw talent in them, and
not just Southern artists, not just artists DJ whatever. That's

(36:19):
just like who I am, you know what I'm saying.
Like I'm an open door studio. I'm gonna bring people in.
I'm gonna work with the up and coming. That's what
I like to do. You get what I'm saying. If
it didn't work out the way it did because I
got locked up, I got to say, hey, I got
myself locked up. You know, I messed that up. But
since then I've been doing I've been doing well. Since
I got out, I've been on you know what I'm saying,
been a whole different. Everything been going good.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I always wondered, did any of those artists reach out
when you were locked up and said let me help?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Let me say this, though, ke she said, nope, let
me say this.

Speaker 7 (36:47):
It is still kind of like paying it forward, because
when I got all those artists did come back and
do songs with me. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
But when you get down, did they help?

Speaker 7 (36:55):
They didn't.

Speaker 24 (36:56):
They don't acknowledge him. He doesn't care or feel that way.
But from the outside looking in. They should acknowledge him.
You know, I feel like.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Gucci gets looked at as a hip hop pillar, though
I feel like he like they look I feel like
Gucci gets his just do as an iconic figure and
hip hop and all the artists he put on No but.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Would you like to see Key?

Speaker 24 (37:18):
I would like them, all of them to acknowledge him,
even if they win an award. Acknowledge him because he
gave you the stomping ground.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Most people don't know Nicki Minaj came out of that
camp French Montana.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
People know half those people we know, but most people
don't know that migosgos stuff like.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Most people because they don't say it right.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
I love I love the chapter Pills and Posting too,
because you said you feel guilty for making the song Pills,
because you made a whole generation start getting high on pills.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
How do you rectify that guilt.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
I can live with it now because it's like it
is what it is, you know what I'm saying. But
back then I know that I like made a lot
of people use drugs. I talked about drug Deorge, drugs,
drugs all through my music because that's what I was
on back then, and I'm just like, damn, I know
I made a whole bunch of people think pills was cool.
I know that for a fact. You know what I'm saying,
and that ain't nothing. I'm just super proud of, you know,
But what can I do. It's in the past now.

(38:12):
And at the same time it was, I was also
a user too, so I was going going through it
with them.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
The interesting thing about that chapter too, you said that
your whole team didn't like that song. They didn't. I'm
over there because I'm sure some of them was on
pills too, So what was it just?

Speaker 7 (38:26):
They din't when I first, like even when I had
like one foot then one foot out, A lot of
my guys who were hustling, we used to think I
was like my crew hustling. But it's they used to
think like pills and stuff like that was like jacket stuff.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
They thinking like, if you do coke, eat like a jacket,
you take pills, you're a janket. They only was cool
with with smoking weed, even taking a drinking lane. They
thought it was some jacket stuff, right, So they really
they said, take away from the money.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (38:49):
So it's like, if you're doing if you're taking pills,
you supposed to be selling the pills. So when I
came out with pills, they went with that. They was like, bro,
what you making a song about taking pills for me?
Then the song ended up blowing up up, but there
was like they didn't like the song.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Ye when you did versus?

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Right, what was your mind framed during versus and Keisha
when he you knew he was doing versus against somebody
that was his arch enemy at the time, right, what
was your mind frame because you knew at any moment
it could have went back.

Speaker 12 (39:17):
You want him to do it?

Speaker 24 (39:18):
I told him, I said, you're not doing that. I said,
I will pay you a million dollars not to do this.

Speaker 7 (39:23):
She told me that it's whatear to God, Like I
tell you a million dollars not to do the verses.
I'm like, I'm gonna do the verses.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
So how for people that don't know, how did that
verses come about? And what was your mind to do
the songs that you did in that moment? Because I mean,
I think.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Everybody felt it watching and people that were they were like, oh,
this is gonna end up nasty.

Speaker 7 (39:43):
Well, I'm trying to think. I heard I seen in
an interview with Jesus saying like, if I do it versus,
I want to do it with Gucci. Right, So after
that he had hit me like, bro, you heard Jesus
say he wanted to do a verse with you? Would
you do it? And I was like, I don't know
if I do that. I don't know if I want
to do no versus. I ain't really really yet. Then
he came back like, bro, I think this would be
big if you do it. So next thing, you know,

(40:06):
Swiss and Larry Jackson end up hit me and we
end up doing some gonna do the verses right, And
my mind frame going into it was like it's going
it was. I was excited about it, like because all
the previous verses were so big, So I'm like, man,
it's dope. You know what I'm saying, It's gonna be
big for me. Everybody gonna be like my catalog gonna
go up, people gonna just so out looking. I was
excited about it.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
And when oh, actually GIZI said he said here on
Breakfast Club, he wanted to do it with you, but
you turned it down.

Speaker 22 (40:32):
I mean, I meant to be honest with you, Like
from what I hear, he did respectfully the client, which
I respect. You know what I'm saying, No, no disrespect.
And you know, I guess he looked at it the
way I looked at it, just like yo, bro, like,
ain't nobody else they want to see us with and
for once, at least mentally, it can be about the
music and you know instead of uh, it just being

(40:54):
me and him and our personal feelings.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Is like, now you got the world watching.

Speaker 22 (40:57):
So as a man, I wasn't gonna do it because
of what happened, because that's what the platform was for.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
That's that's what that conversation was. That was back in
twenty twenty.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
I don't think I turned it down. I don't think
I think I turned down during versus period, but but
I was open to do the verses when they finally
broke it down to me like Okay, this the business
about it, this all this good can come out of it,
and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Did y'all it was Keishi. You didn't want to do
it because you knew he could potentially have No.

Speaker 24 (41:25):
I just don't trust it.

Speaker 16 (41:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 24 (41:28):
God forbid, gsu go say the wrong thing and and
things pop off. I ain't got the time.

Speaker 25 (41:33):
Where were you when he was doing it versus I
was pregnant at home.

Speaker 24 (41:36):
No, he didn't want me there, so you were watching it.
My hands was wet and I'm nervous. I'm like, Lord,
Jesus helped me.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
What he did?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
That song? What were you thinking when he did that song?
When do you think that did that?

Speaker 24 (41:46):
So like, oh my, I'm just like this like every
like any normal person. I'm in the bed watching it
like everybody else, scared.

Speaker 12 (41:54):
And Jesus, you said you were lucky that I'm sorry, sorry, sorry,
Gucci you said that you were happy that Jeezy took
the moment to kind of like kind of shift there.

Speaker 7 (42:03):
In hindsight, I'm like, I respect the what he did,
what he said, you know what I'm saying, and uh,
you know what he said made sense, you know what
I'm saying. But at that moment, in the moment, like
he's at the moment, I wasn't thinking like I'm happy
he said that. The moment was just like man, what
is he talking about? You know what I'm saying, let's
get on to the what we're doing. I ain't. But

(42:24):
when I look back on and I'm like, that was smart.
You know what I'm saying. That was smart and it
was deep.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Did y'all speak before y'all diversity personal? Y'all just speak
before here? How was that conversation with that the first
time y'all spoke throughout the years.

Speaker 7 (42:35):
Of Man one? It was funny because we seen it,
y'all on the airplane, right. He was sitting in my seat.
That's the crazy y'all. He's sitting in my seat, right.
So I'm like, damn, I don't even want to talk
to him, but I got to tell the dude to
get out of my seat. Like I'm like, hey, man,
you see you gotta get out of my seat. But
he see who it is. He like, well, I'm sitting

(42:57):
in the same seat. Can't you sit in the mind like, nah,
I can't sit in your seat. Just got to get up.
There was the conversation we had.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Partly, if you anybody else, you probably be like, God,
go ahead, you.

Speaker 7 (43:06):
Got to get up. You got to get up, and
he don't want to get up. I can't be cause
my pro I can't my problem. Won't let me say
that you in my season. I just okay, I'm gonna
sit over here. Yeah, no, dog get up.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
That won't allow him to be like man Man told
me to get up.

Speaker 7 (43:19):
Oh he got up and moved, got up and move.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
That's funny because I remember fifty and John said the
first time they see each other was on a flight.
They were both it's like, you can't wild out there,
so you gotta be easy.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
But no, in your first book, you said, y'all had
dinner somewhere before.

Speaker 7 (43:35):
No, we we we met up at a restaurant. Yeah,
so we had met before, but I'm saying this is
how I got out. That was like we met at
that restaurant way way back. That was like twenty ten
or like that.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
What is it like?

Speaker 12 (43:48):
Now, have you guys spoken since versus and you know,
both of y'alls so involved at this point.

Speaker 7 (43:53):
I did an interview on Big Fast and I'm like,
it ain't really been no disrespect since then. Everybody everything cool,
But you know, well, okay, all we got.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
More with Gucci Man and Kishi Ko when we come back.
His new book, Episodes is out today. It's The Breakfast Club.
Good Morning, Morning, everybody. It's DJ MV just Hilariy Charlamagne
the God. We are the Breakfast Club. Laur La Roses
here as well. We're still kicking it with Gucci Man
and Kishi Ko Lauren.

Speaker 12 (44:18):
I saw you say that. Going to East Atlanta sometimes
like triggers different episodes for you, and you can talk
about that and we're you about to say something.

Speaker 7 (44:25):
No, say it does trigger me going to Eastern Line.

Speaker 12 (44:27):
What in writing this book, what other things from your
upbringing did you realize, like, oh, that was one of
my triggers? Are these episodes and I didn't even know,
like family stuff or just you know, stuff from like.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
Young Yeah, like, uh, stuff with my mom triggers men.
Uh we had like a screen relationship. Uh, stuff for
my youth trigger me. You know, old friendships you know
that went sour. Ah, there's a lot of stuff gonna
be triggered.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
I get.

Speaker 7 (44:53):
You know, some songs even trigger me, you know, just
from like like you said, like screen relationships, even hearing
so Iced. I don't like hearing so Ice.

Speaker 20 (45:02):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (45:02):
You know it's kind of like a trigger. State scrapped
would be a trigger, you know what I'm saying? Hearing that,
like I got ten k on your bodom, Like the
West Side probably couldn't have took that, you know, like
that would have triggered me.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
You don't do those songs.

Speaker 7 (45:14):
You don't do them songs.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
What trick is you boys? What is it? Burma Alabama?

Speaker 7 (45:22):
I would say East at Loanda, but I don't want to.
I don't want to. Besma kind of depresses me because
it's like when you go down there, it's so like
it's like damn, you know what I'm saying. It's it's
like damn, it's it's a tough place to grow up at.
And when I go back, there's like it down to
make me cry just looking at the buildings and the
hot because you're from a small town like I'm from.

(45:45):
It's so small and rural and like you know, it's
there's no money down there, you know what I'm saying.
So it just looks it feel dark.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (45:52):
East Atlanta is just dangerous. It's still dangerous, is always
gonna be it. Just when I go there just make
me change. It made me like I just almost turned
into a different person. Like the coners, the blocks, just
I just just reliving all the stuff I did on
those blocks. You know, the people there. It's just I
tried to stay away from triggers.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
And you say you're even reading the book and seeing
the effects that like systemic racism had on you, Like
watching the KKK, you know, March to Your Time?

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Is that still a trigger? Nut?

Speaker 7 (46:23):
It kind of is?

Speaker 14 (46:24):
It is?

Speaker 3 (46:25):
It is?

Speaker 7 (46:26):
I still like hold some of that stuff in me.
You know what I'm saying that I seen when I
was young from best one. That's why I kept my
label ten seventeen because I'm like, I don't never want
to forget. Even though I was raised in Atlanta, people
always associate me with Atlanta. I never want to forget,
you know, the life I led there, and I never
want to forget, like my family then what they going through.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
You said during the Big Facts interview that the police
you feel like they still have it out for you
in Atlanta.

Speaker 7 (46:51):
I feel like they did they did back when I
first got I feel like because they used to do
stuff like you know what I'm saying, Like I would
be when I first had got out of jail. I
would go places and the police would just run my name,
you know what I'm saying. And then I was on probation,
so my probation. But I was like, hey, did you
go to such and such because the police ran your
name and there, like they were just trying to see
if I get They just they just it's just too much.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
So what do you tell artists like your thugs and
your little babies that probably feel the same way as you?
You say it might be time to get to Atalanta.

Speaker 7 (47:19):
I told the baby that. I've been told the baby,
hey man, you might be too big for the city,
might need to move. I ain't you know what I'm saying.
I never got a chance to tell a thud that,
but I definitely told baby that before because.

Speaker 12 (47:28):
He used to be there. The baby used to be
there just walking around like regularly, like grocery stores and everything.

Speaker 7 (47:32):
Because he's so comfortable. I got to comfort that, like
even time I went. If I'm in Atlanta and I
have an episode, I go straight to my block because
I know that block like the back of my hand.
I'm always like, I always go there. It's just like
them for me, It's like it's two for me for me,
you know what I'm saying, It's two for me. Sometimes
something too for me.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
For you.

Speaker 7 (47:51):
You got to get away from that because it's too
much comfort them. It ain't no growth in comfort.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
I need to be well.

Speaker 7 (47:55):
Like I'm held to the count of play. You can't
get held the acount of If I go to East Atlanta,
Laan ain't coming. He coming. All I got to do
is just stand on the block.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
I want to ask you, Keisha, how do you how
do you define recovery? Because you're seeing him at is
worse and now you're seeing him at his best. So
how would you define recovery for somebody that is dealing
with somebody who's trying to recover from their mental health issues.

Speaker 24 (48:16):
The first thing you need is medication. You cannot it
cannot go on medicated. And the quicker the better, because
once they're medicated, they usually get better in like two weeks.
It's not it's not overnight. It's literally like fourteen days
for them to be back to normal. So for him,
like let's say he started his medication after an episode,

(48:37):
he started medication today, right three days later, he'd be like, oh,
my wife, you're so beautiful. I could tell by his
words that he's getting better. And then tomorrow he might
say who, and I'm like, oh, he's not better yet.
Like I could just tell by his tone.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Who do you talk to? Keish Like, who do you
have a therapist?

Speaker 24 (48:56):
No, I'm the therapist.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Will tell you.

Speaker 24 (49:00):
I'm like a real therapist. I know how to speak
to him. You have to speak calm, you cannot scream.
Sometimes you have to agree with what he's saying. Like
he'll say give me five hundred grand and I'm like, okay,
I don't do it. But I say, okay, whatever he
asks for, I say yes, but I don't do it.
But you can't go against them. So he'll text somebody
and cuss them out, and I'll go back to his

(49:22):
phone and I'll say, block him. He's having an episode.
So I just I'm just a clean up lady.

Speaker 7 (49:27):
I hate this. I gotta say this. Remember Julie Greenwall
used to be the head of Atlanta. I had an
episode and said so much bad stud of Judah.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
I said that.

Speaker 7 (49:35):
When I came from I said, listen, Julie, now, if
I teach you anything crazy, block me for block me
and call me for two days and call my wife
because this episode comes. Because I ain't want to lose
my position as label going through episode. And I'm like,
if you just see like if you see, like the
texts is getting crazy, just block me because I don't

(49:56):
want to come tell you. I start saying stuff so bad.
It's like you can't come back from We've seen it before.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
But how do you protect your peace?

Speaker 9 (50:06):
Though?

Speaker 12 (50:07):
Like you, because there has to be times where you
feel like the walls are just caving in because it's
so much and it's so personal for you.

Speaker 24 (50:13):
Honestly, I during the moment, I'm kind of like stressed out.
I'm a prayer warrior. I just pray, and once he
starts getting better, honestly, I'm okay. And he doesn't stay
sick long. Like I said, it takes fourteen days to
get him back, and after like day three he's already

(50:34):
come into his senses. But those deep episodes won't happen ever.

Speaker 12 (50:38):
Again.

Speaker 24 (50:39):
We're in twenty five, so the last one was five
years ago. He had a mild one coming maybe two
years ago, and I caught it. So now I catch
them before they come, and like people be saying stuff
about him, like, oh, he's saft, he's this, he that
the madman is still there. So I try my best.
I don't want them to provoke him. Pause it will
come back and he's very danger us. So y'all listen,

(51:02):
please leave him alone because the mad Max is still
in the head.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
When I when I saw young Thugs say that, I
was just like, man, you know thug is just young? Yeah, ain't,
he's just grown grown.

Speaker 12 (51:14):
I thought it was hearing you talk about why you
called young thugs so quick when he dropped the miss
my dogs because you understood what that apology like you
were there. I thought that was like, really, it was
really great to hear. What was y'all conversation?

Speaker 7 (51:27):
Like, I didn't call him, I just forget. I just
what I'm saying, I forgive So.

Speaker 12 (51:30):
Y'all didn't actually talk. Oh wow, so he found out
you forgive him on that interview.

Speaker 7 (51:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (51:35):
Has he reached out to you since the interview?

Speaker 7 (51:37):
To be honest, he was like he hit me like
let's let's let's talk. But I didn't really want to talk.
But I do forgive him. I just didn't want to talk.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yeah, I understand. I'm the same way. I can forgive you,
but there's certain times I just I just don't need.

Speaker 24 (51:52):
That time.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Do you mind being the og?

Speaker 1 (51:56):
And the reason I say that is is you look
at the land and you see everything that a Land
is going through, Gucci is that one person that can
stop it? Or I think because every artist in Atlanta
respects you, do you do you mind that that label.

Speaker 7 (52:08):
As the OGI that can do that? Or you just say,
you know what og I do? You know what I'm saying,
Like I've been in the game twenty years now, so
like I embraced that. You know, I'm not the high
artist trying to drop off, you know, the hottest single
every year and do all that. You know, I want
to be the person that they can come to and
talk to.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
But you want to do that with with everything that's
going on in Atlanta?

Speaker 3 (52:27):
I would? I would.

Speaker 7 (52:29):
I feel like if they would come to me, but
they don't want to come. I feel like people don't
come to me for advice because it's like even with
my own artists, it's like a lot of them, you know,
don't come to me because it's like talking to your dad.
I ain't got nothing but positive to say. I'm trying
to lead by example and I'm gonna tell you like
you shouldn't do this. You shouldn't. So they don't even
want to talk to me.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
They would, they'd love to talk to old Gucci.

Speaker 7 (52:49):
I want to talk to Gucca. Ain't really gotten that
going on. He go to sleep at eight thirty, like
you know.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Nothing owning everybody. It's DJ mv ch just Hilari, Charlamagne,
the God. We are the breakfast Club lawl of Rules
is here as well. We're still kicking it with Gucci
Man and Kishi k.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
What emotional release did writing this book give you that
music couldn't.

Speaker 7 (53:09):
So I'm more proud of this book than I'm probably
in the album I ever put out, because, like you said,
it's kind of like talking about stuff that I used
to be kind of like I had a stigma of
you know what I'm saying, you got mental health?

Speaker 3 (53:20):
You crazy.

Speaker 7 (53:21):
It's like I used to be embarrassed about some of
these situations and I think used to want to talk
about it, But now I'm confident in talking about it
because I know that I can help somebody else. And
it's like I don't even feel I don't feel no
shame no more.

Speaker 12 (53:33):
And the conversations that you've been having recently, you know,
have you begin to help people in that space where
you're like, yo.

Speaker 7 (53:40):
I did it, Like everybody people, I did a book
signing in Atlanta, and a lot of folks are coming
up to me saying, hey, you know, thank you for
this book. I've been sober eight years, or thank you
for this book. You know I got bipolar, thank you
for this book, my friend. You know what I'm saying,
be going through episodes like I was getting a lot
of it, and it felt good to feel that love.
You know what I'm saying, It really did.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I used to surprised about the love. I heard you
say something.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
You were in Miami doing the book signing and you
were surprised about how many people came up to me
and asked for an autograph for your book. But then
I'm thinking about it, I'm like, you just did South
Carolina Comee Coming that was so loud. You just did
this show that was sold out. So it's different when
they come up like with that book. I don't know why,
but it's like the book sign and saying when they
saying about your book, you know, I've been rocking with

(54:23):
you Sais in junior high.

Speaker 7 (54:25):
You know, you got me through college. Like it just
the energy, it was like it made me feel good.
I ain't felt that in a long time, you know,
like touching the people, shaking their hand, taking a selfie
with them. It's like when you do that at about
two three hundred people and they're telling you that you
can't do nothing but feel good.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
That's what I said.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
You're like a mythical figure to a whole generation. You
got sexy ready calling themselves the female Gucci man. South
Carolina State, them kids asked for you. Yeah, like I've
seen the list, Like I don't even know who that is.
It was about five. I'm like, I don't even know
who these people are, but they're like, oh, Gucci man,
I know Gucci, Like they wanted you at South Carolina?

Speaker 3 (54:59):
How did that make you? Feeling? The whole generation? And
that feel good?

Speaker 7 (55:02):
And I feel good when I go through this. I've
been doing a lot of college I do Norfolk State
on Tuesday. But like every time I go to the
college in there, like the kids know all the words.
You know what I'm saying. The nineteen years old, like, bro,
you still touching people nineteen years old?

Speaker 4 (55:15):
They know this song?

Speaker 7 (55:16):
They singing songs that came out of two thousand and five,
two thousand sis how old were out in? So that
feel good?

Speaker 3 (55:22):
I make you feel a keauch you when you see
Sexy Red calls off the female Gucci.

Speaker 14 (55:25):
I love it.

Speaker 24 (55:26):
I love when younger artists pay homage to him, like
I be in the background, like when people don't pay
homage to him or chet respect.

Speaker 7 (55:34):
I be mad.

Speaker 12 (55:36):
He don't get mad or whatever.

Speaker 24 (55:37):
But I watch everything online and I analyze it, and
if anybody go against him, I'm going against them too.

Speaker 12 (55:45):
I was going to ask, does the book because you said,
you know, seeing people come up to you with the book,
it's like a great feeling for you. Does the book
make you feel like a superhero versus like music didn't?
Because we talked about like our og like rappers being
like superhero sizs, which a lot of people I feel
like they look at you that way.

Speaker 7 (56:01):
I'm super proud of being the author. You know what
I'm saying. I read a lot of books.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
I read.

Speaker 7 (56:05):
People just don't know that about me, But I read
a ton of books. You know what I'm saying. I
probably read two three books a month. You know what
I'm saying, Big Malcolm gladlf a huge big Moccol Gladwell fan.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
He just did a book.

Speaker 7 (56:18):
Wrange a type of point that I read that I love,
you know, but I'm proud of being an author because
I love books, and so it's like it's a different
thing to being a rapper, you know what I'm saying.
I want to make some more books. I like being
a prolific author. I'm trying to have more books than Charlemagne.
Yeah I got three, Yeah I got I want to
see you write a book. I really do, because I'm

(56:39):
telling you, people.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
Who have to deal with those of us with mental
health issues don't tell their stories enough.

Speaker 24 (56:46):
I think it's harder being me than him going to
an episode because it's scary, like like we had a
condo we were on like the Penthouse, and I'm like,
is he gonna jump? Is the voice gonna tell him
to jump? Like that's the scary part, not me being
scared of him hurting me. So like during episodes, I
make sure no one is around him with guns, knives,

(57:09):
high buildings. But he wouldn't leave that. That's where I
had to kidnap him from.

Speaker 20 (57:12):
He would not leave there.

Speaker 24 (57:13):
He wouldn't come to the house. And I'm like, I
had to get like a babysitter for him because he
hated me different episodes. He hate different people that if
you have an episode where he hates me, that's a problem.
He hated me, he wouldn't come home, he got the
damn balcony, and I'm like, is the voice gonna tell him?
I can't sleep at night? I have to What is
he doing? Now?

Speaker 12 (57:33):
Did he eat today?

Speaker 24 (57:34):
Like I have to play games with his friends from
Atlanta who he want to be with. And then I'm like,
don't give him any wee throw it in the garbage.
They call me back.

Speaker 12 (57:43):
Oh he needs beat.

Speaker 24 (57:44):
I gave him weet today.

Speaker 12 (57:44):
I said, no, you did you know?

Speaker 24 (57:46):
Like stuff like that? It's hard, it's so so, so
so stressful, like you.

Speaker 20 (57:50):
Want to cry.

Speaker 24 (57:52):
And I cannot read that book. It's too sad, it's
too much for me.

Speaker 12 (57:56):
It's too I don't read it. I read probably like
three pages and.

Speaker 7 (57:59):
I had to.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
What about you? When you got to relive? All of it?

Speaker 7 (58:06):
Made me cry?

Speaker 12 (58:08):
Almost an.

Speaker 7 (58:11):
Autobiraphy almost made me cry, and this book almost made
me cry.

Speaker 24 (58:14):
I almost made him cry. I book was putting him
thro an episode that I called it a day one.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
So revisiting the trauma, yes, puts him back.

Speaker 7 (58:23):
Bro I can't lie, especially the best Alabama parts, Like damn,
that takes me back down.

Speaker 21 (58:28):
You know.

Speaker 7 (58:28):
It's like then I started thinking about you know, when
I was young, my granddad and my mom like, damn,
we was poor. And I'm like, I don't. I don't
think about that no more. You know what I'm saying
that was like I know, was poor butt like that
not well when you go back to think about it, Damn, man,
the racist as time, poor as hell, you know, staying
with my granddaddy, me and my mom my brother's.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Like we have we have, So how do you protect
yourself while revisiting that trauma and on a press run
and how do you how do you protect well?

Speaker 24 (58:57):
The press run doesn't bother him. It's just like when
he was writing the book, because he has to keep
saying these things over and over and over. And actually
this was my idea. I was like, you need to
do a movie episode and let people know what's going on.
I said, I can tell you everything you've done through
your episodes because he doesn't remember. And I was telling
him how to make the movie.

Speaker 7 (59:17):
And that's how that's how we started the book, because
she told me to make a movie as soon as you.

Speaker 24 (59:21):
Have the episode, I was like this, people need to
see that we.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
All married the beautiful black woman and I want gucci.
You tell me, how important is it to have a
good woman.

Speaker 7 (59:28):
Man, It's the most important thing you can have. It's
the best decision you can make. My best decision ever
was to marry her and be with her. I got
somebody to, you know, hold me accountable, and I got somebody,
you know, watch TV with. Sometimes that's all you want
to do. Bro, I'm kind of like, I don't really
need a lot.

Speaker 24 (59:48):
Like we're just like best friends and we just home,
just chilling and we everything we do, we have it
in common. We like the same food, the same shows.

Speaker 21 (59:57):
We both like to just go.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
If you could redefine what it means to be real
in hip hop culture, what new code would you give
that this new generation?

Speaker 7 (01:00:08):
Oh man, I let them know that they talking about
their hood. But the best hood is fatherhood. That's what
I'm most proud of. You know what I'm saying. I
love I love being in called dad. You know, I
love being a present dad. That's like I didn't even
know that it was. There's so much joy and raising
kids that it is. But you know what I'm saying,
like raising the family has changed me. It has changed

(01:00:30):
for the better.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
I I just want to say the biggest thing that
made me so happy. When you see Gucci talking about
his kids. I don't know if you see the smile
on his start smile, he like, I can't wait to
get back and get to.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
Like that is the biggest thing him right now. Do
you feel like a generational curse breaker?

Speaker 7 (01:00:53):
Yes, yes, I know. My little boy he gonna inherit
all this, he got so much, he so turned up.
Trust baby, ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
None wrong with it wrong?

Speaker 12 (01:01:02):
You know he said it with a smile.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
That's right, man, Go get episodes right now, man, and
Diary of a Recovering Man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Man, this is there's some books that are good. This
is good, but it's also important, man.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
It is important.

Speaker 7 (01:01:14):
My album today to Charlam Man.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
That's episode. I ain't even get that. I didn't get time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
It's Gucci, Man, thank you so much for joining us.
You used to listen to The Breakfastlive in the morning
when you work out. I don't know if you still do,
but you gotta.

Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
I listen to y'all every day before I go to
the gym, and not my favorite part is positive.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Know today here we go.

Speaker 24 (01:01:30):
He loves that all you're positive.

Speaker 7 (01:01:33):
So as I'm going to the gym, we around the gym,
we listen to y'all. But it's like the positive to day.
Ain't stop.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Let me hear what he's saying. Appreciate. That's what it is, brother,
it's the breakfast club. Good morning, tell us it's time
for donkeys to read.

Speaker 7 (01:01:47):
But you're so good at Charlamagne.

Speaker 18 (01:01:50):
You know what you want charlamadel Man, Who do you
give the dusky other day too?

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Then?

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Well, sexy read don'tkey today going to a sixty five
year old man, Richard Lombardi.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Also fun fact, Dick is a common nickname for the
name Richard. Why I don't know, but Richard are Dick
Lombardi is absolutely living up to his name. See, there
are people among us who judge you for doing simple
things like coughing, sneezing. Okay, now, I don't know if
this judgment started during COVID. Remember when COVID had folks

(01:02:21):
scared to cough around other people. We was treating coughs
like farts. I personally don't fought around people because I
don't fart in my clothes. Yeah right, And when a
man fats around another man, that's flirting. Because why A,
you're bringing attention to your ass in my presence? Why
do you want me to know what your ass? Maile
may not smell like? My point is there are people
amongst us who are so judgmental when you sneeze, when
you blow your nose.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
I mean, they look at you crazy, They run and
grab hand sanitizer, they start screaming for you not to
touch nothing. It's a whole production. And I'm like, why
are you being a Richard about this? And always remember
Dick is a common nick name for Richard, Why are
you like this?

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Just hilarious?

Speaker 20 (01:02:55):
Because germs germs crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
He don't come his mouth and take a tissue right.

Speaker 20 (01:03:01):
Next to his iPad?

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Do he cover his mouth?

Speaker 20 (01:03:03):
No, you don't cover his mouth?

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
And damn lie I do he yet? Now sneeze into
the inside of your elbow. You don't sneeze into your.

Speaker 20 (01:03:11):
Hand, no, but it goes under in the crawls around
your albuh just finishing? Donk yet to day?

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
I simply blew my nose this morning, just makes such
a production about it that people around asking me if
I'm sick. I'm like, damn, oh, I blow my nose, okay.
And the reason I need just to relax is because
I don't want her to end up like Richard Lombardi.
See Richard sixty five years old, and he had a roommate.
His roommate name is Frank Griswold, and Frank is eighty
years old. Now I know what you're thinking. Why the

(01:03:37):
hell are a sixty five year old man and an
eighty year old man roommates? Why are Dick and Frank
shacking up? I think I know the answer to that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
A little game.

Speaker 20 (01:03:47):
Everybody's a little game.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
That's not what I was thinking. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
I was reading this story in the New York Post
this morning, and these two men have been friends for
three decades, and they've been living together for more than
twenty years.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
They probably was just trying to save money. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
So that means they met when Frank was fifty and
Richard was thirty five. They clearly became fast friends and
have lived together for more than twenty years.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
What does that mean? So you no, that's not what
that mean? Okay, just trying to fake money? They is
a friend y'all need to stop.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
This is a serious situation because Richard is in jail
right now because he suffers from the same condition as Jessilarrus.
He can't stand to be around people sneezing, coughing, blowing
their nose or anything like that. And guess what that
is a condition. Okay, it has to be a condition,
and that condition caused Richard to land in jail. Let's
go to ABC five for the report.

Speaker 25 (01:04:37):
Police sixty five year old Richard Lombardi in court accused
of killing his eighty year old roommate, Frank Griswold. It
happened Wednesday at the home they shared on Main Street
in Marshfield.

Speaker 17 (01:04:47):
He was cooking Thanksgiving dinner, got into an argument with
mister Griswold. The victim that he did not want him
in the kitchen touching the food.

Speaker 25 (01:04:56):
Prosecutors say that you argued and when Lombardi saw Griswold
in the kitchen, shoved him.

Speaker 17 (01:05:00):
You did see the pick to mister Chriswald near that
food doing dishes, said the event over and grabbed mister
Chriswald from behind. I throught his back and threw mister
Chriswald to the right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
I tossing him to the side.

Speaker 20 (01:05:13):
Lombardi called nine one one.

Speaker 25 (01:05:14):
Prosecutor say he told police Griswold's feet became tangled and
he fell and hit his head.

Speaker 17 (01:05:19):
He was seen laying face up on the floor of
the kitchen there in a pool of blood.

Speaker 25 (01:05:24):
Griswold was later pronounced dead. Court document show he also
had cuts on his face. Lombardy is being held without bail.
He's back in court next week for a dangerousness hearing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
I bet he did grab him by the back. Had
that man laying face down, ass up in blood for
no damn reasons. It ain't that deep, Okay, It's never
that deep, because he sneezed over some trash ass things
giving food, things giving food to trash.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
First of all, if you such a germa fold, why
come near me after I sneeze? Also, why put hands
on me after I sneeze? If you're a real germa fold,
you should be avoiding me like the plague, because I
might have it. Also, you've been living with this man,
for there's not a germ he has that you don't have. Okay,
If he sneezes on some food, so what he's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Probably put worse bodily fluids and stranger places all around
that residence, all right, Not to mention this eighty year
old man came in the kitchen to wash the dishes,
so they had a nice couple things going on.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
Somebody hands the food, somebody hands the cleanup. He was
washing dishes before he got to eat. That's a keeper.
And one little sneeze caused you to throw this man
to the floor and kill him, especially when you said
the police. He said the police that he often sneezes.
Y'all been living together twenty years, you know this man
often sneezes, and this one time he sneezes, you throw

(01:06:38):
them to the floor and cause him to die, face down,
ass up in a pool of blood.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Always remember, kids, one wrong move and you're done for. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Life is all about choices, decisions, decisions, and one wrong
decision may destroy your life.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
So you should think before you make decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
And you don't realize how important decisions are until you
make the wrong one and you're facing charges of assaulting, battery,
and voluntary man slaughter simply because somebody sneezed.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
And all you had to do was say God bless you,
but instead you let it stress.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
You please let me mom give Richard Dick Lombardi the
biggest he haw hee haw.

Speaker 20 (01:07:15):
Hee ha, you stupid mother fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Are you dumb?

Speaker 20 (01:07:19):
Okay, let's just start here. He should have covered his
nose like eighty you washing dishes, you can cover your mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
His reflexes don't work like they used to. Okay, so
why are you washing thisns are abrupt? Washing dish is
more of a premeditated thing. You prepare for.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Yo. You wait, you turned eighty and you just sneeze
in and for and then don't know one yo, But.

Speaker 20 (01:07:42):
I'm not gonna be in the k Yo. He sneezed
over the food.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
They've been living together for twenty years.

Speaker 20 (01:07:47):
You mean nothing listening.

Speaker 18 (01:07:48):
If your white is cooking and you come in that
kitchen and you sneeze over the food, just going, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Gonna go off? That would be ridiculous. I've sweated on her.
But won't you go off?

Speaker 20 (01:07:59):
Yeah, but that's the different.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
It's not the food that the whole family. That's your
terms on the babies eating that. Yeah, that makes sense
to mister plague. You said the flags plague.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
You shouldn't correct nobody about nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
I'm correcting Okay, I'm correcting. It does don't make no sense,
especially if you each other ask how do you know?

Speaker 20 (01:08:14):
That's what Dick and and Richard?

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
What else? It sounds like they're doing.

Speaker 20 (01:08:21):
Yea, at least he'll be happy in jail. And if
this is all, this is all you know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
You can't say that he ain't got I'm going to
give all right?

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
You know what he said? Oh yeah, what eat? We're
eating something you can't eat.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Just you can't say given dinner. You can't say eat
the groceries the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Way you said it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
I don't know what you're talking about. Good, all right, Well,
if you're that donkey to day you talking about, are
you getting to the yam?

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Since Thanksgiving, we got more coming up with the best
of the Breakfast Club, The Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Club Morning Everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
It's d J n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy
we are the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
We got some special guests in the the legendary Clips.
What's up? U Is it the clips or is it
clip clips?

Speaker 16 (01:09:13):
Okay, because I say the clips too, clips? You call
that shot, So it's just clips.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
What's the orders of the name For people who don't
know so that came from Full of Clips.

Speaker 16 (01:09:27):
I came up with it, and at the time of
Fat Joe had the Full of Clips crew, so we
just shortened it the Clips.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Okay, I want to go back right, because you guys
have been a long time. What got you into rapping
and to form the group Clips?

Speaker 16 (01:09:41):
For people that don't know, always always been a fan
of hip hop like anybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:09:47):
Uh, my older brother was into the whole cardboard box
break dancing, boom box rapping when you had to push
play and record and wrap directly into the box and yeah, man,
just uh just coming up under that and uh we
went to Chad's house one time and pusha he wrote

(01:10:07):
his first wrap and Farrell was like, y'all, should you
know be a group? His first rap was incredible, but
before that it was just me rapping over there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Now when you're first met Chad and Pharrell, right, yep,
y'all are totally opposite. So how did y'all even meet
and even learn each other? Because growing up in Norfolk
in Virginia, like, it's totally two different sides. So what
made y'all even say, you know what, let's connect with
these guys who wearing tight shirts at the time and
tight pants that looked like skateboards and looked nothing like

(01:10:36):
y'all serving them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
I was serving them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
So it made y'all say, you know what, let's link
with them and start.

Speaker 13 (01:10:43):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Actually, so I was a DJ.

Speaker 16 (01:10:47):
DJ Alex in Virginia. Beach lived down the street from me,
and we went out and we uh rented a drum
machine and we got the drum machine, but we couldn't
work it, and you know, we had to turn it
back in soon. We had paid for it, but you know,
we was gonna have to turn it back in before
we even had a chance to use it. And he
was like, you know, let's take it to my homie's house.
And we went over there and it happened to be
Chad and he knew how.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
To work it.

Speaker 16 (01:11:08):
And you know, that's just stuff that we were doing
before clip M and that's where it started.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Yeah, so when did y'all take it serious? When did
you say, you know, what this rap thing is is
something I'm gonna take serious. I'm gonna get off the
street to say this is what it is.

Speaker 16 (01:11:22):
I have to say that was in meeting Pharrell. It
was the Teddy Riley coming to Virginia. You know, we
began to see that it was a real thing, that
that music was was actually attainable in arms reach. I
mean we seeing the cars, we seeing the Ferraris, we
seeing Michael Jackson in Virginia Beach. You know, we're seeing

(01:11:43):
MC's hole. Everybody was was coming, was coming down. And
then at the same time we had you know, Timblin
and MISSI, they was doing their thing. They were you know,
they had left home and went to Jersey and was
working with Joe Tosy. But these are all our childhood
you know, high school school for last thing. So we

(01:12:04):
got to see it from a lot of different angles
that you know, music was possible.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
Why Virginia don't get like the credit for being a
hip hop hotbed, just a black music hotbed.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Well, I think a lot of people have.

Speaker 16 (01:12:17):
Everybody who's made it in Virginia actually had to leave
Virginia to make it. I don't think any one particular
artist of any of us. None of us broke in Virginia.
So we always broke like Clips broke in Philly. You know,
you know, everybody, everybody broke somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
And Clips broken Philly. I never heard that.

Speaker 16 (01:12:38):
Yeah, clip's broken, Philly man shoutow cosmic V Yeah, yeah,
clips broken Philly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
I don't know what record was at the funeral or
grinding broken Philly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Now do you remember that when Farrell gave it that
beat for grinding? I remember the first time I heard it.
It was confusing. Yeah, it was confusing. I was confused.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
So when he first gave it, how did you know
that was? You probably got the CD that I was
handing out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Yes, I did, Yeah, I believe you did.

Speaker 16 (01:13:06):
It was it kind of took us back because you
got to think at that time, Pharreh was singing on
every hook. It was whether it was mister Cool and whoever.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Right.

Speaker 16 (01:13:16):
So, you know, this is our first joint and he like, yo,
this is the one, and we like, we want you singing,
like sing, you better tap or do something. And you know,
he was like, now I'm telling you, this is this
the future.

Speaker 15 (01:13:28):
This is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
And he was right. And it was confusing because we
actually wrote to it twice, three times.

Speaker 16 (01:13:35):
I think I think I got three joints on that joint.
I still can't blend it to this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Day because I don't know where the beating the snare
go at the same Wow, blend on it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
You just gotta go.

Speaker 16 (01:13:44):
That's crazy. That's crazy for you to say that to
this day.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Up there, me up there. I just love Vegas with
rock was smoking. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Thanks, you know on the album Matters, you said you've
been both Mason bethists.

Speaker 15 (01:14:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Man, For people who don't know what that line needs,
it's found on it.

Speaker 19 (01:14:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:14:09):
I just feel like I understood and walked a similar
path like Mace, you know, to be in this industry
and then to have a real live revelation of God
and who he is, you know, and then have to
navigate your way. As far as navigating, not so much

(01:14:30):
because I knew that I had to chill, take a
step back. And I also want to give you y'all
flowers too, because y'all were still messing with me during
that time. You let me come in here and you know,
promote the documentary and you know, uh my solo projects
and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
So yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker 16 (01:14:50):
But yeah, I feel like I understand, uh seeing a
lot of the same things that that Mace uh seen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
I bought that up because you know that they actually
caught me Mason a club.

Speaker 16 (01:14:59):
It wasn't a club in d and it was like,
we got to push your t in Mason.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
For a while. No, No, I'm cool with it all.

Speaker 16 (01:15:09):
Yeah, I'm cool with it all.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
I mean that's why I brought it up, because that's
what ultimately caused the clips to you know, in for
that that fifth time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
That's right, yea, yeah, So what got your back? What
was the call that said I want to do this again?

Speaker 16 (01:15:21):
There were a few baby steps going out to Wyoming
and uh, you know, working on use this Gospel with
Ya with my brother. I always knew that we could
do it, but I just knew I needed to sit down, period,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
What what else did we do? We did push his
album I Pray for You. We did a Lego album,
the Nego album.

Speaker 16 (01:15:43):
Yeah, So I mean those were things I could ask
for that I knew, weren't you know, just solid nose man.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
From there, it was just like, what we're gonna do?

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
What was the exact moment though, because y'all were on
two completely different life paths, So what was the exact
moment that said, Okay, it's time doing the album?

Speaker 16 (01:16:00):
You know, when when we were doing they use this
gospel and punch Bowl and push his album and whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
I had asked my dad, I was like, you know,
what do you think about me rapping again?

Speaker 16 (01:16:12):
And he said, he said, son, I think you've been
too hard on yourself. And my dad's a deacon, you know,
like he was a deacon. So to hear him say that,
I am like a word.

Speaker 17 (01:16:21):
That's how you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Feel like, you know, and just answered one of my questions.
I was gonna ask you about that because you talk
about that on Birds Don't Sing right, And I just
thought that was such a powerful thing, just to explain, like, yo,
you was going through his you know, dress and drawer,
seeing his notes.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
But then he y'all had conversations about you rapping again.
I'm gonna ask you what would those conversations?

Speaker 16 (01:16:38):
Yeah, yeah, we everything was the way it lined up.
It told the whole story, and it let me know
that God is intentional. These things don't just be happening
to us the way you know we think. God is
very gracious and he sets you up. He knows what
you can take, he knows how much to put on you.
He knows the order in which to put.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
You know, things in for you.

Speaker 16 (01:17:01):
So I just know that he's in control all the time.
And the conversations with that record, you know, Pusher talking
to my mom and me talking to my dad and
being able to document those last conversations. Even those conversations
was a type of preparation, you know, getting you ready
for what was about to take place.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
So like, I'm I'm cool with it all.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Well, condolence is first and full, you know. I was
when I was in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
You know, I was with family members of yours, and
what I like to do is is pull them to
the side and just have conversations. I knew I was
coming up for an interview and trying to get tea yeah,
of course, and one of them was like, now we
were talking about that albums before I heard the album,
and he was like he was like, yo, the best
thing about it. He was like, I had their mom

(01:17:49):
in the car and he was like, the greatest thing
that ever happened is the two boys are back together rapping.
So how was that feeling of knowing that mom was
just super duper be that her two sons were back.
Uh man, you know she that was that was always
a big thing you know for me as a soloist.
She would always be like, I want you with them, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Want your brother with you.

Speaker 16 (01:18:14):
I want them back out there with you, probably just
to you know, look over me, watch over me. But
that was that was always her thing. She was huge on,
like us just being together.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Warning everybody's DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamage the guy we
are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with the clips,
long the roads to see it as well, Charlamagne.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Now did y'all know y'all had to start the album
with a dedication to your parents because.

Speaker 16 (01:18:39):
It was the hardest record to make, Like, it was
the hardest record to make. So yeah, So finally, like
when we cracked that code, you know, we were you know,
we were putting the order in and we was like, man,
nah this this, this has to start, like this has
to start the album.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
It was.

Speaker 16 (01:18:57):
It was polarizing the response, you know, just in the
creation of it. Man, everybody who heard it. There were
people in there, like, you know, we recorded it in
the LV headquarters, so it's a room and it's you know,
it's open, the mics are like this, ain't no booth.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
You record like this.

Speaker 16 (01:19:15):
You look outside, you look through that window, right there
and inside of window, it's just an open space. Somebody
with a sewing machine, somebody with you know, bag shoes, whatever.
And while we're doing this in real time, everybody's in tears.
Like everybody just you know, they're they're watching it. By
the time we finish it, it's like, you know, just
like any other record, it's like, man, you know, we
we cracked the code on it, like we were satisfied,

(01:19:38):
but it was just so hard to do. And everybody
is always like, you know, everybody want to put the
hardest record first, and I'm like, nah, man, this this
is the this is the hardest record, and I want
to see how it like really touches people, you know,
from from the jump. And then't get into everything else.
What we get a visual for this video. I mean
it's already shot.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Think he's already shot. Look at you.

Speaker 20 (01:20:02):
It's not like you already.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
But I pull everybody to the side, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Asked the other day, they said I was glazing the
clips right crazy. That is what I said, was I said,
I said something to this fact.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
I said, Push has if he hears anybody go at him,
he has five records on the side of five verses
just a case.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
I said, I just know because I know who he
is and what he is. Is that true?

Speaker 6 (01:20:30):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Man, not listen, man, you.

Speaker 18 (01:20:35):
Know he said no, he said that he looks good
like the skins always crashed.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Stop man, Like like I like skin compliments, I do
like ski compliments.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
To rappers and sometimes they throw stones that you do
you have something in the in the staff for each
and every one of them.

Speaker 16 (01:21:01):
Man, I mean I think you know, just me being
a rap artist and me being an MC's that's just
second nature. And usually most most people who throw stones, man,
I mean, nobody's perfect. So I mean I can dissect
anybody just like they could dissect me. But I try

(01:21:21):
not to engage to my life. I've done that, Like
I've done a lot of it, you know what I'm saying.
I've done it with the best and the biggest, Like
I've done it. So it's like you can't just entertain
everything because everybody and everybody's not good. This is a
new day in a new era where like you know,
just clicks and and and and click bait and people

(01:21:42):
just say things for attention, and it's like you just
can't entertain everything, man, you just can't.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
I feel like you've been trying to catch your body
since the story, I've been trying to catch a body.
I think those were shots directly at you. You were
surgical with you.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
You said that the end of Peel Back, that lay
is real slow, So I feel like you really wanted
to go there with somebody for the longest.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Nah, man, no, no, I mean you know it's it's
never a man I got I got for real. I
have a lot to to to rap about, I got
a lot to wrap about. I got a lot a
lot of content. The creativity is is ever flowing, and
it don't ever have to be about an individual. It

(01:22:33):
don't have to be like not for me, like I
mean like, I feel like this album is incredible and
I don't think it's really dialed anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
You couldn't get a necessary to murder charge though, because
when you listen to you for a lot, a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Things that you laid you know, you laid down that
Kendrick used for you for it, and I think it's
used in the battle period.

Speaker 16 (01:22:55):
Man. You know, I think I think you know great
great lyricists just you know, tune into the obvious.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
During that battle, and yeah, you just speak during the battle, myssory.

Speaker 12 (01:23:13):
I I knew when do you pick and choose when
to say something about something because you sit on a
lot of stuff for a long time.

Speaker 16 (01:23:19):
Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm always like that. That just
comes with my position in the game, and like just
where I am as an artist, Like, man, I don't
you know, it's not always a radio record that I have.
It's not always you know, you know, it's I'm not
putting out music constantly. You know what I'm saying every
five minutes a new record. I feel like, you know,

(01:23:39):
things happen. You gotta store it. You gotta store, you
gotta craft, you gotta make it right. You got to
set the platform, set the stage.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Now breakdown there to hit the situation with death Jam,
you guys were on death Jam. Yes, decided to leave.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
Yeah you crazy too, man.

Speaker 16 (01:23:54):
You can sit up here and tell death Jam was like, Yo,
death Jam, Death Jam don't care about.

Speaker 15 (01:23:59):
Your honest man, man, I'm not gonna do that after her,
like what is you talk about?

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
Your music? What are we gonna be talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
And I actually left that because we didn't sit down,
but he still wanted to do it, but I was.

Speaker 12 (01:24:21):
Pushing for her because I love cocoa. If we're being
honest though, because listening to the project now and knowing
with the background with you're on gym, you I don't
understand why they would let a project like this go.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Well listen, So what was the call when when when
you hit it in the album and they called and said,
we can't put this out, we can't clear this record.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
What was that call? I mean, it was you know
what it was.

Speaker 16 (01:24:39):
It was something that I wasn't really dealing with firsthand.
They were like speaking to my management, you know, and
then it got it got a little dicey to where
to the point they weren't they wouldn't text or email
send these things and emails. They would they would like
only talk on the phone, and you know, they would
instruct not to email us back and forth these you know,
that type of correspond I can only assume that it

(01:25:02):
was just the optics with everything they got going on
with litigation, lawsuits and over that the optics of clips
Kendrick together, because that's that's when it all happened. We
don't really deal with the label that much anyway outside
of nothing. Actually, yeah, we don't deal with the label
like we we go make our album and then we
come and bring the album back.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
But you and Kendrick have worked together before. Y'all got
a class you together. If you ask me, it's a
different day. It wasn't that was back then.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
But y'all wasn't even shooting that. Dude, It doesn't it
doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
When you wanted to leave your call Hole and then
the first room was they just let you go for free.
We was like that can't be true.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
No no, no, no, no no no. We had to pay,
had to pay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
So you reached out the whole and Hope it absolutely
possible Stephen did. Yeah, Steven, Stephen reached out to him.
There were other other labels, uh, in the in the
in the bidding, and he just called Hole like yo,
I think there was a there was a there was
approval process between one of the labels or something took
a little long, and he went and asked.

Speaker 16 (01:26:05):
Whole, and Hope was like, look, yeah, let's do this now,
like twenty four hours, maybe maybe forty eight hours. I
never seen lawyer work like this that fast. Yeah, I
didn't know it even happened like that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
And what record was all supposed to be on on
this project.

Speaker 16 (01:26:20):
He was said, changing whips. It was Mike Tyson, Mike
Tyson blow to the face. You know, whole had the album,
so you know, yeah, it was it was all.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
For him to whatever he wanted to do. It supposed
to be on so Bid.

Speaker 16 (01:26:34):
Yeah, that was one of the options.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Yeah, yeah, and nothing moved the spirit.

Speaker 14 (01:26:39):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
I don't know, Man, I don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:26:42):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
You know we got mored with the clips. When we
come back, don't move.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
Club, Good morning everybody in Steve j Env just hilarious.
Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Law on
the Roses here as well.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
We're still kicking it with the clips. Jess.

Speaker 16 (01:27:00):
How do you feel when people leak music, like when
people release your music prematurely?

Speaker 9 (01:27:04):
Yo?

Speaker 16 (01:27:04):
You know, the game goes how it goes, and that's
how we maneuver, we navigate everything. I'm not gonna sit
up and be upset about anything.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:27:13):
That happens when we get in there and we create
and we make our music and we do what we do.
What else you're gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
What else can you do?

Speaker 7 (01:27:21):
Other than that?

Speaker 16 (01:27:22):
You know what I'm saying, And I stand on our
product and I love it. And it's good for fans
to get things sometimes, so it's cool, Like as long
as they enjoy it, it's good.

Speaker 12 (01:27:31):
Did y'all ever think about trying to get another Kendrick
verse once that leaked before the album?

Speaker 16 (01:27:35):
Actually like dropped, man, we try to get all Kendrick versus?

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Why not playing that song in Paris? Everybody's phone out,
it was going y'all had to know that.

Speaker 16 (01:27:46):
Yeah, you know, it's part of it what you said
about when you went to Wyoming to do use this
gospel by the way, the hardest song on that album.

Speaker 18 (01:27:57):
How do y'all feel about Kanye now? Do you feel
sadness with sympathy for him when y'all see him now?

Speaker 6 (01:28:05):
No?

Speaker 16 (01:28:07):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 24 (01:28:11):
No no no.

Speaker 16 (01:28:12):
I'm going to say and and and I'm gonna say
that I think this goes for for anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
It's crazy.

Speaker 16 (01:28:19):
When you have a true revelation of God, it is
radical because when the scales fall off your eyes, you
do you want to run and tell everybody what you
what you witness or you know we've been missing it
this whole time. You know, it's it's how It's how
I felt. But once you get that, you got to
sit down for a minute. You can't get the revelation

(01:28:41):
and then try to keep going in this world. The
epitome of the gospel is denying yourself. That's why Christ
got on the cross and gave up his flesh. So
you have to be willing to give it up so
you can learn and then let God restore you and
rebuild you. You know, correctly doesn't mean anybody is a

(01:29:02):
perfect person or or you can't even try to have
the facade of Okay, I'm saved now now I'm perfect. Nah,
it just doesn't work like that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
So how do you deal with it? Push?

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Because deal with Kanye because you know you're not the
type of person to hold your tongue.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
You know, you don't hold your word.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
So with some of the stuff that he did that
might not have aligned what you thought, did y'all have
those conversations?

Speaker 16 (01:29:24):
Well, I mean, you know, I spoke on it. I
feel like that's that was the beginning of our fallout.
He sits on a lot, Yeah, miscarriages of justice. I've
seen it, you know what I'm saying. I hear things
and things being said, and I see, you know, his reserve.
You know, I admire his restraint. People By the time

(01:29:46):
he jumps out the window, you think he's going overboard.
But I'm telling you as knowing my brother, he sits
on a lot.

Speaker 12 (01:29:53):
I saw you say you hate Kanye's leadership and you
got away from that, got away from that community that
he built because of the feeling over there. What was
that like last straw? Like, nah, I can't.

Speaker 16 (01:30:04):
I think for me, it was somewhere around the Atlanta
the Dome, the locked in when everybody was locked in
the dome and we squad and we were working and
we're doing what we're doing. It's just all about the squad,
and I kind of just felt like, you know, I
would you know, I would have to leave and go

(01:30:24):
do things shows, whatever the case. Maybe I would come
back and the energy would just be different.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:30:29):
There were conversations being had, you know, this is this
is after Addie Don and everything else, and you know,
it was like, man, I was doing self serving things
and it was just crazy. It was just a lot
of like you know, backbiting and things like that, and
I'm like, damn, this is this is for the squad.
I thought, but you know, talk publicly negative about you.

(01:30:51):
We heard him say about sewing. We heard him say legend.
Oh no, for sure he has, for sure he has.
He put on remember he put on the little mask.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Screaming the.

Speaker 16 (01:31:03):
Culturally inappropriate Oh man, yeah, no, listen man, Okay. So
during during just the sessions, whether it was a beat,
whether it was you know, just the freestyles before and
making the songs, whatever the case may be, you know,
we would get hype about just like man, it's hard
or whatever whatever it was at the time, and I

(01:31:26):
forgot who said it, but somebody it was Mike.

Speaker 18 (01:31:29):
Mike.

Speaker 16 (01:31:29):
Mike was like, man, this is culturally inappropriate. And Mike
also worked on It's Almost dry, So you know how
that had a common thread of like the Joker laugh
through the whole album. He was like, Yo, say that
on the mic, and let me run that through a filter,
because you know, we just felt like we just kept
running that back. It's culturally inappropriate. He was like, say

(01:31:52):
it through a filter, let's find a voice, and let's just.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
See how it sounds on records.

Speaker 16 (01:31:55):
And it actually just worked just to have that, you know,
just another thread to keep it, you know, cohesive.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Keep the album cohesive. Well, I appreciate you brothers for
joining us, thanks for having it. Thank you very much
on y'all, But we're gonna have to wait another fifteen
years or no, no, no, I don't think so okay,
now let's just say it. I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:32:17):
I'll just so happy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
That's why when I said the safe space thing, like,
I can really see that, I can see.

Speaker 4 (01:32:25):
How this is like a divine protection with y'all together,
having an individuals y'all together.

Speaker 16 (01:32:31):
You can I'm with that.

Speaker 7 (01:32:32):
I'm with that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
I feel that, I see that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
One last thing, is there ever a problem? You say like,
I'm not going there and push it, like if push
is going to a spot, a strip club to host
or he's going to ship like that, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Not doing that.

Speaker 6 (01:32:45):
Ye know.

Speaker 16 (01:32:45):
Everybody keeps putting you in the strip club.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
For so every interview. I usually don't.

Speaker 7 (01:32:53):
I mean my book.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
But yeah, work is work, work is work.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
It's clips good morning, Salute morning everybody at j n V.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Jess hilarious, Charlamagne to God.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
We are the Breakfast club, and happy Thanksgiving to everybody
out there. Salute to Red who's running the boards today.
He's the only one here so.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Happy that got to work on Thanksgiving. That's a goddamn shame.
You know what that means?

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
What you taking next week off? So when we come back,
he ain't gonna be here, huh. I don't blame him, yes,
so good luck to us. I don't know whos gonna
be running the boars. We're gonna figure it out. But
salute to everybody traveling, if you're heading to Thanksgiving, if
you're if you're at the airport, airport, or if you're
on the road, get to your destination safe.

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
Yeah, definitely sending you positive energy, loving light. Hope your
playing isn't delayed. I hope that you know the airports
are cool. I hope everybody gets the way they're going safely,
whether you're flying, whether you're driving, whether you're taking.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
The train, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Man, we hope you get to your destination safely, right
and don't let your family push you off too bad.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
When we come back, you got a positive know for
the people on Thanksgiving. Brother, you know what I do,
and it's simple.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
You're gonna be sitting around the dinner table today, probably
with people that you may enjoy, probably with some people
that you don't, but I just want you to communicate
with clarity. Don't make any assumptions at the dinner table today,
all right, Communicate with others as clearly as you can
to avoid misunderstandings, sadness, and drama.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
If all humans would.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
Communicate with impeccability of the word, all of our relationships
would change. There would be no wars, no violence, no misunderstandings,
and you don't need any today at Thanksgiving dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
So communicate with clarity. Have a great day, breakfast club, bitchess.

Speaker 7 (01:34:28):
You don't finish for y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
Done.