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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
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yo yo yo yo yo yo.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yo yo yo yo yo jess hilarious. Good morning Charlamagne
the God, He's to the planet.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Guess what day it is?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Guess what day it is?

Speaker 3 (00:13):
How y'all feel out there? I feel blessed, black and
holly favored, happy to be here another day to serve
our beautiful listeners. Good morning, that's right.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's Wednesday, It's day. What's up? Just how you feeling?

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yess?

Speaker 4 (00:27):
What's that?

Speaker 5 (00:28):
What's up? I'm all right. I'm alright, waiting to be
let to the zoo, but I'm alright, y'all getting over
a strap throat. I did shows over the.

Speaker 6 (00:34):
Weekend in Baltimore, and I love my hometown, Yes I do.
But I got sick after meet and greet. It always
happens like that, But that's why I don't do it
as much.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
Got sick.

Speaker 6 (00:43):
Somebody came out with strap passed it to me, and yeah,
I've been home for recovery, recovering for like three days.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, And how many shows did you do out there?

Speaker 5 (00:54):
I did five? I could have edited another one.

Speaker 6 (00:55):
They were all sold out, but I started not feeling
good Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
You still out there, bread and strap all around Baltimore.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
I'm definitely not in Baltimore. I'm home. I haven't been
able to be around my child, my husband.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
You look like you was in a dispensary yesterday on Instagram.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
I was not an dispensary.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I was.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
That was a voiceover and I got paid to do
that promo.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
It looked like hand was.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
Not my biggest hand.

Speaker 7 (01:21):
That was the nigger hand.

Speaker 6 (01:22):
And I got there it was don't play with me
like I said. Wow, But yes, I get paid to
do promos. So yeah, but I'm good now, thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Okay, good good, good good? What I charae man? I
feel great. You know, this is a great week.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
And the reason this is a great week because number
one of the NFL is back, right, So it was
the NFL Week two regardless of how your team, regardless
if your team sucks, okay, like mine, Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
But that disclaimer had to come, didn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Which team?

Speaker 3 (01:45):
What's your what? You was you Pitchberger Baltimore this year
Ravens and you know not this year? They lost last week?

Speaker 5 (01:51):
They did.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Look that was a terrible No, it.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Wasn't a terrible laws.

Speaker 7 (01:56):
It was just stupid.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
They always do dumb stuff like it. They always do that.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Though I was up in the four but like four touchdowns,
that's like that was insane. But Terrence Crawford and Canelo
Avares this Saturday man dropping the clues bombs of Terns,
Crawt and Canelo Avares not enough hype around this fight
for me. But I didn't think it would be. And
the only reason I didn't think it would be is
just simply because, like you know, Connelo is super popular
in the Mexican world, Terrence Crawford is not as popular.

(02:20):
Unless you're a boxing fan, you know it's gonna be
a It should be an amazing fight. I don't know,
it's a pick me for me. I know that sounds
crazy because the boxer, the boxing fan of me, says
it should be Canelo Avarez. But you going I'm going
for Bud. I've slept on but before and that's when
he washed Earlspince.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's right. But is a special kind of fighter.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
He got a magic to him that you just never know,
that's right, You just never know. Even though he's going
up a couple of weight classes. You just never know.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (02:52):
I'm just gonna enjoy the fighting for bud. All right, Well,
we got a big show, a big show for you
this morning. We have Shakas and Gore. He'll be joining us.
He's an author speaker. Charlemagne was just in right Because
Island with him, so we'll break that down what he
was doing out there.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
And he has a new book.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, he got a new book called how to Be
Free of proving guy that escaping light hitting prison. Shaki
is my man, you know, he comes to my mental
Wealth export. He's been to my Mensalpowl a few times.
And this week we were at right Beker's Island speaking
to the inmates because he does a lot of work
with prisons all around the country. And this book is
really fantastic because a bunch of us are trapped in
a lot of hidden prisons that's right in our lives, and.

Speaker 8 (03:27):
He gave us a guide on how to get free
of them. And also Jermaine Duprie JD will be joining us.
He has a new documentary, a new documentary series called
Magic City which comes with an album which or a soundtrack.
So we'll be talking to JD about everything going on
Magic City and everything.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
That he's worthing.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
You've never been to Magic City, man, you understand how
special this documentary is. And every time I watch this
episode of Magic City, I want to go to Magic City.
I'm actually mad that I didn't go to Magic City
when I was in Atlanta. Fan best best. That's me
and my wife have some great times in Magic City.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Being around people. First of all, your wife like the strippers.
You just like to sit there and eat the wings.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
I like to go there and uh, empower the women
that are in power. Empower, empower, invest into the community
of dy.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
He'd be sitting in the corner.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yep. Yeah, making sure everybody want on Mondays.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeahinating I being there discriminating like no light skinned women.
I want all the melanin place. Hey yeah, we definitely
discriminate when we be in there. What's wrong with that?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Hey? Nothing?

Speaker 8 (04:30):
You pick what you like, You pick what you like,
all right, And salut to the ladies at Magic City.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I'm sure they're just big now.

Speaker 8 (04:36):
They just finished counting their singles and there ones.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Amazing club amazing.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
She works at Magic City. She's not a descriptor. She
works there La.

Speaker 8 (04:47):
All right, well, let's get the show crack and we
got front page news. Me will be joining us next
to the breakfast club. Good morning, let's get in some
front page news.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Good morning me, Good morning everyone.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
How y'all doing, Good morning, you look good well, thank you, jess.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
I hope you feel better, Thank you girl, thank you.

Speaker 9 (05:05):
All right, well, we start this morning with who draws
the line and who gets to keep the power. Politicians
in several states are rushing to redo congressional maps before
twenty twenty six, but voters they are not buying it.
An NBC poll shows most Americans want independent commissions, not
parties who are in charge redrawing the maps.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Now.

Speaker 9 (05:25):
This all began in Texas, where Republicans back by President Trump,
pushed a mid decade map to lock in more House seats.
Texas Governor Greg Abbott signed it into law last week.
Civil rights group they sued immediately, saying it dilutes the
Black and Latino votes Democrats in California they're also pushing
a Newsome backed November ballot measure that, if other states

(05:47):
keep redrawing, would temporarily let lawmakers replace the state's independent map.
Republicans have already sued to block that. And in Missouri,
GOP leaders advance a mid cycle map that deeply splits
Kansas City and puts longtime Democratic Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver at risk.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
And now Utah is jumping in jumping in.

Speaker 9 (06:09):
A judge there said lawmakers blue pass voter approved anti
jerrymanderin rules and ordered a new map before the midterm. So,
in other words, voters said guardrails, lawmakers went around them,
and now the court is forcing a redo that would
keep more of Salt Lake City together and make one
district competitive at least now. Appials there are also pending,

(06:30):
but the clock is ticking. They have a September twenty
fifth deadline to look at that. Now, all of this
brings us back to Texas, the state that helped kick
this off, which is home to some of the nation's
largest black communities, and how those lines are drawn will
decide who's heard and who's pushed into the margins. Congresswoman
Jasmine Crockett, she spoke earlier this week about those maps

(06:50):
and what this now means.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Let's listen to that these maps.

Speaker 10 (06:54):
Racist, the fact that they are trying to silence black
and minority voters in a majority minority state racist. I
want to give y'all some numbers because I don't think
this y'all fully understand how bad this is. Texas, number one,
has more African Americans than any other state in this country.
Right now, under the proposed maps they want to make

(07:17):
it to wear, Texas only has two districts in which
African Americans have an opportunity to choose their representation.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
What does that mean for black voices in Texas?

Speaker 10 (07:27):
That means that it is approximately one fit the voting
strength of their white Texan neighbors.

Speaker 9 (07:37):
So expect court fights, ballot measures, and confusion over who
represents too. But the NBC poll is very clear that
eighty two percent of people they want neutral lines from
They don't want party lines to be drawn based on
if you're Republican or Democrat. And so now to Capitol Hill,
where GOP leaders are facing a showdown over healthcare. Speaker

(07:58):
Mike Johnson is under growing pressure from within.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
His own party to extend the.

Speaker 9 (08:03):
Affordable Care Act tax credits before they expire at the
end of the year. So far, eleven Republicans, many from
competitive districts, have signed onto a bill that would keep
the subsidies in place for another year. Without action, millions
of Americans could see their health insurance premiums jump by
an average of eighteen percent by January first. This puts

(08:26):
Republicans in a tough spot because for years the party
has spot against Obamacare, but now with more than twenty
four million people enrolled in marketplace plans and more than
ninety percent relying on these subsidies, letting them expire could
spark political backlash, and so some lawmakers want to fold
this into an extension into this month's government funding deal,

(08:48):
but Speaker Mike Johnson he hasn't committed, but he does
say there are quote thoughtful conversations happening, but says there's
a lot of opposition.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Meanwhile, Democrats they're.

Speaker 9 (08:57):
Drawing a red line warning they will not so any
budget deal that lets benefits slaps.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
They argue that without.

Speaker 9 (09:04):
Action, millions of people will lose coverage while everyone else
will pay higher premium, So that fight is far from over.
Senate Republicans say they want to compromise, possibly by tightening
eligibility requirements rather than eliminating those credits altogether. But with
the government funding deadline looming and election season coming up,
both parties are under pressure to act or face some

(09:26):
political fallout.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, I just don't understand how you sit around thinking
on how to make people's life worse, Like it should
be an easy call to extend the Affordable you know,
Care Act, Like this should be an easy call, Like
it makes people's lives better, Like why would you, why
do you? Why would you want to cut people's health
care in any way, shape or form.

Speaker 9 (09:45):
But now it's just it's the principle because Republicans have
fought for so long against Obamacare that now is just
like they don't want to do it, even though millions
of Americans are on it and they need it and
they will lose their health care.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
So a lot of people are writing and calling.

Speaker 9 (10:01):
Into their senators and their congressman and you know, making
sure that that is folded into the government shutdown bill.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
So we'll see, Charlotte, what happens.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Well, maybe if Republicans just start calling it the Affordable
Care Act and stop calling it Obamacare and understand that,
you know, their constituents and people that voted for them
also benefit from this, because that's what government should be about, right.
It shouldn't matter who you know what party right, what
party implemented?

Speaker 2 (10:25):
What's to people?

Speaker 11 (10:26):
Right?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
It shouldn't matter what party implemented, what what politician implemented.
What if it helps the American people, that should be
what we care about.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's right?

Speaker 8 (10:33):
All right, Well that is front page news, all right,
me and we we'll see you next hour. Everybody else,
get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five
one oh five one. If you need to vent, phone
lines wide open again. Eight hundred five eight five one
oh five one.

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Speaker 2 (11:03):
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Speaker 11 (11:06):
Good morning my breakfast club family. It's your boy.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
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Speaker 11 (11:13):
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Speaker 11 (11:55):
Okay, Now, I didn't know if we had to register
because last year, you know, I've registered it anyway, but
I do want to stated, you know, being a Cowboys fan,
you didn't tap on the NFC. It's the first black
all black quarter back.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah right, what happened in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, jailing hurts, not jailing, Yeah, jailing hurts.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
What's doing from the Reskin's name, Jadon Daniels, it's not
the Reskins. I said that the other day. They got
mad commanders.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
I'm old, okay, yeah, all right, sure, the commanders and
Dak Prescott the Cowboys.

Speaker 11 (12:24):
Yes, right, and then we go to Rock the Giants.
I'm sorry, Envy, but we gotta watch this week.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
You can dream, dream big level. Are you a Package fan?

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Oh no, no, no, no, boy, The Package played the Reskins
this Thurday number month.

Speaker 11 (12:36):
You're right, yeah, yeah, but have you watched the Billionaire
that that willym below? Have you watched that documentary?

Speaker 12 (12:42):
No?

Speaker 7 (12:43):
Oh, yes I have.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I'm sorry, my brain is somewhere just wanting.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yes, I watched all eight episodes of the Gambler documentary
Cowboys documentary.

Speaker 11 (12:49):
Yes, it should be more like a billionaire in his emotions.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
It pissed me off because it showed me that Jerry
Jones has been the problem the whole time. Because if
he was, if he would have just got out the way,
put his ego to the side and let Jimmy Johnson
be the great football mind that he is and Jerry
just be the billionaire owner, Cowboys would have had tremendous success.
He probably would have won four to five Super Bowls.

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Speaker 13 (13:26):
This is Tracy?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Hey, Tracy, good morning, Get it off your chest, Tracy.

Speaker 13 (13:30):
First, Good morning everybody. Thank you for everything that you're doing.
The thing that's getting.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
On my nerves this morning.

Speaker 13 (13:37):
As the mother of four blessed black and highly favored children,
I'm frustrated about this new law that was passed about
them taking the cell phones away from kids. I don't
think that they fully thought about the safety ramifications of
this because with the active shooters and all the shootings
that go on, who was calling the police? Most of
the time it's the kids with the phones.

Speaker 11 (14:00):
So you know, when you.

Speaker 13 (14:02):
Have kids away from their parents and they have no
way to get in touch if something happens.

Speaker 11 (14:07):
Like, nobody thought about that.

Speaker 13 (14:08):
I mean even at a comedy show, they fall aways
to effectively let people keep their phones without taking them away.

Speaker 11 (14:14):
Now I live in Utica. Just this week they lost
I don't.

Speaker 13 (14:18):
Know how many phones and the lines for the kids
to pick up their phones after school with a nightmare.
So I really wish that they had thought about this
better or think of a better solution to get this thing.
So I understand the reasoning why they did it, but
I just think that it's putting the kids more at
harm than helping.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
They won't let the kids just keep it in their
book bag without using them.

Speaker 11 (14:36):
No.

Speaker 13 (14:37):
Now, different schools have an acted it in different ways.
I know that one of my friends, she said that
their school lets the kids keep them in pouches like
they do with the comedy show. When they take them
and they lock them up and I guess the teacher
can open it whenever they're leaving. But the school, in
the high school in Utica, they take their phones all
together and then there's a gridlock at the end of
the day for the kids trying to get their phones.

(14:58):
In the first week of school, I was told by
my friends that the line to get their phones were
so long kids were missing their bust.

Speaker 11 (15:06):
It was like forty five minutes.

Speaker 13 (15:07):
Some of the kids couldn't even get their phones back.
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I do think that they should restrict student cell phone used,
but I agree with like the pouches and if you
pull it out, you know, during during class, then it
should be some tey you know, I don't think that
they should take it and like put it in the
desk and everybody got to try to get it afterwards.

Speaker 8 (15:24):
The pouches is difficult too, because with the pouches you
usually you have to wait to outside and they got
to scan something to get the pouches open. It should
be yeah, to keep your phones, it has to be
in your book bag. If it's not in your book bag,
you get an attention.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
And all my tings exactly, and that's what I keep their.

Speaker 8 (15:37):
Phones in their book bags and they know that, you know,
they can only pull it out after class or after school.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I should say, but yeah, we can't write, we can't
sit here.

Speaker 13 (15:45):
No.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
People.

Speaker 13 (15:46):
There were people that were saying, well, when we were younger,
we did we didn't have to do all that I said.
But you know what we also didn't have. We didn't
have active shooter drills either.

Speaker 11 (15:55):
That is so if you if you can put these.

Speaker 13 (15:57):
Kids through these active shooter drills, you you can do
the same. Drusy showed them an effective way to be
able to.

Speaker 11 (16:02):
Keep their phones, you know.

Speaker 13 (16:03):
And again, like you said, if somebody is violating, then
take their phone. But I mean to put a whole.

Speaker 11 (16:09):
School in a rip.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
But we do, But we do. We got to admit that.
You know, phones are a big distraction for these kids.

Speaker 13 (16:17):
They are, but at what point do you teach them
personal responsibility? My kids, my kids would have been worried about,
Oh my god, if I get caught with their phone
and they got to call my mother, you know what
I'm saying. They would have been more worried about that.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
And by the way, it's not like we were not
capable because even when we were in school, like we
couldn't have beepers and stuff, like if you got called
with at least when South Carolina you got called with
the people, you would attention, You would get detention, you
might get is so you know, even though a lot
of kids would bring their beepers and stuff, anyway, we
knew how to keep them hitting back.

Speaker 8 (16:47):
When Logan was a freshman in high school, there was
a robbery across the street and the guy ran across
the school property and they shut the school down and
they didn't tell any of theppearance. But Logan had it
cell phone and was able to call and say, this
is what's happening. And I think God, because you a parent,
you outside you don't know what's going on. They shut
there trying to run.

Speaker 13 (17:04):
And then and there was the stabbing at the middle
school across town from the high school just yesterday. So
I'm like, Okay, I wonder who called that.

Speaker 8 (17:12):
Yeah, you're right, well I would tell my kids to
keep it in their backpack, don't say nothing, don't pull
it out in BacT school.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
And you know, if he gets called them to call
it their mom.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
I like, I like that idea because because because like
you said, it gives it teaches them personal responsibility.

Speaker 13 (17:24):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
And they got to be They got to be accountable
for that, that's right, for that, for their phone or
violating that phone room that's in the classroom.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Get it off your chest.

Speaker 8 (17:33):
Eight hundred and five eight five, one oh five one.
We got the latest Lawren coming up.

Speaker 7 (17:36):
We do.

Speaker 14 (17:37):
Cardi b is talking about why the more kids you have,
the better Some more kids might be in her future.
We're gonna get on into it, all right. Thank you.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Leaving TlCl.

Speaker 14 (17:51):
We went for that yesterday. I was out, We're gonna
talk about it, talk about this too. But I went
to Harlem Harlem's Fashion Rolls kickoff for fashion Week yesterday
they honor Usher with the Virgil ablottle Ward and my
outfit was very tlc Ish black.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
So this was the hair we did. Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
There, we'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Everybody is DJ.

Speaker 8 (18:15):
Envy, Jess, Hilarry is Charlamagne the guy. We are the
Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren
becoming a straight fast she gets them somebody that knows somebody.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
I'm a long girl that knows a little bit about everything.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
She'd be having the latest on you, the la The
latest with Lauren la Rosa.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Sometimes you have fact, sometimes you have details, sometimes you
have a little.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Bit of everything. It's the latest on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 14 (18:41):
So Cardi b sat down with Jennifer Hudson and she
talked about why she would have her want, why she
wants more kids.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Let's take a listen. Do you think you're gonna have
more kids?

Speaker 3 (18:50):
You are?

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (18:52):
Yes, it's like the more kids who have the less
of a possibility you go to like a home.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
One of them is gonna wipe my butt.

Speaker 13 (19:00):
One of them is gonna like that.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah, they say that, especially when you've got girls. Yeah,
you can tell me that all the time. I got
four girls I'm gonna be taking care of for the
rest of my life.

Speaker 8 (19:09):
I got four girls, two boys, and that's what I
always say. One of them is gonna make sure I'm
good that I'm not known.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I say that to.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Them though, like you take care of mommy and Dady
when we all rady too.

Speaker 14 (19:17):
Yeah, I think the girls are definitely more inclined to
do NBA. But you got your girls are already like
they I feel like they take care of y'all or
try to.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Madison Guy, Yeah, Madison Man.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 14 (19:29):
Well, I mean I thought that this was an interesting
conversation because you know that there have been those rumors
that Carti is pregnant or she's not pregnant. So hearing
that she's open to more kids, uh, you know, it's
definitely things. She also talked about the fact that she
doesn't she doesn't even have room at this point to
get more kids tattooed. So she does have more, she's
gonna have to figure out where the kids are gonna go.
But at the same time, in La Offset was at

(19:50):
the airport, he was at LAX and TMZ ran into
him and asked him about because you know, Cardi is
promoting am I the Drama and he's running around promoting
his album Kiri as well. Now off set, Yeah, Offset
was asked by TMZ if there's competition between him and
Cardi because both of the albums are are going to
be or his is good and hers is predicted to
be really well, let's take a listen.

Speaker 15 (20:11):
Hey, yeah, your kid's gonna have both their parents nominated
for Album.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Of the Year for sure.

Speaker 15 (20:16):
That's just that's crazy. You guys gonna go up against
each other. Maybe no, but maybe you're never right.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
You all piece off for us to win, everybody gotta win.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
You got kid say yeah, we got.

Speaker 15 (20:28):
Touched the totally so Lason, you're gonna support her album
in some way for sure.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
She's gonna do a big one too.

Speaker 7 (20:35):
All right.

Speaker 15 (20:35):
I love to hear it, man, Hey, and thank you
for your time.

Speaker 7 (20:38):
You're real good dude.

Speaker 11 (20:38):
Man.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
I appreciate you dropping the glue bum for offsets. Yeah,
the dodging that messy, nasty ass question. That person who's
trying to trying to trying to.

Speaker 14 (20:48):
Present shout out to Charlie over that's Charlie from TMZ
that is the iz over there.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
But Charlie's writ in theory, I think both of them
could be up for Album of the Year because their
albums came out in the same year. But he knew
what he was trying to do.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 14 (21:01):
But I will say too, shout out the Offset because
I think over this press rollout of his album and
just some of the things we've seen will go through
publicly with their divorce situation. He's learned how to have
conversations about what they're going through in the media from
the beginning of when we saw them, So now there
was so much growth in that answer. But speaking of Offset,
so we remember we were talking a lot about why

(21:21):
Offset and JEDD's Bodies has not been getting the push
that we think it should get. So they were on
filin yesterday and they performed and Drowning Pool, the band
that originally did Bodies, perform with them.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Let's take a listen to that.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (21:37):
Yes, I didn't really know much about the original song
that was sampled. I learned that because of this performance.
But I was watching this interview with Jedd. He was
talking about how the composition of that song is like
one of his favorite that he's ever wrapped over.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
He killed it.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, he record two individuals who did not get the
proper promotion for their albums, Jid and Offset.

Speaker 14 (21:57):
What are making the stops now? Seems like with that
was a great performance.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, but it's been a week since their album came out.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
You're right, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 14 (22:07):
Well, speaking of album promotion, you guys have been seeing
Carti and all the promotions she's been doing.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
So people are taking it back.

Speaker 8 (22:13):
She's taking it back to the essence of when people
used to run around and really really push.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
We gotta stop doing this. What's that.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
We gotta stop praising people for doing what they're supposed
to do. Yes, I understand what you could. We did
the same thing with the Clips. Clips had such a
genius rollout, and we're doing the same thing with Cardy.
Carti's having a genius rollout. No, she's actually doing a rollout, correct.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 8 (22:34):
The rollout stop right because budget stats people stop putting
money into marketing and they started doing let's just do
a TikTok dance and that'll sell it. But I think
these artists are going back to what makes sense talking
to their I don't know if yes, you need a budget,
but also you know, it don't really cost to go
do media, don't really cost to do press, It don't
really cost to do promo video order.

Speaker 14 (22:52):
Lean into just what your audience knows. You ays, because
what Carti has been doing, she it looks like you
could eve shoot that with the iPhone. It looks like
she's shooting you with the iPhone. So Cardi b you
guys have not seen it has been like we know
her for like the skits, and you know that the personality.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Loss money to move Cardy around.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
It does.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
Don't give me around with Lawrence, but you know she is.
I mean, she's doing skits.

Speaker 14 (23:12):
She so like the last one she just did. She
talked about the budget. It does take money to move
her around. But what I'm saying is you can pull
out a phone and speak to your audience the way
they're used to hearing you.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
So they look pull up on the block and on
the side.

Speaker 8 (23:23):
Yes, but she's also going to Hoiston, She's going to
la she going to Atlanta, She's in Long Island, She's
in She's flying all over the place.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
And Cardi don't.

Speaker 14 (23:30):
Fly commercially, No, no, no, but I'm not talking about
that part of I'm talking about the piece that's promoting,
like the vehicle that's promoting it, she said. She jokingly
posted a video saying that Atlantic only gave her fifty
dollars for the rollout, so that's why she's been doing this,
and the we have the audio of her right just.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
I think that. I mean, she's being funny, but there.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Was the.

Speaker 14 (23:47):
Just like they only really gave her fifty No, no, Charlotte,
if this is Cardi B.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
They don't. They just had that whole article with them
talking about how.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
They was gonna be spending no money. But continue, I.

Speaker 14 (23:58):
Was just gonna play the audio from when she had
this laid out. I think she was up telling Harlem
she had to see these later on the ground. The
sick Listen, what if.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Y'all be y'all stable?

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Is that the exclusive party B you album with selling
right now?

Speaker 9 (24:08):
Looking at right here, you got the vinyls because you got.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
This ninety nine ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
And I think what she's doing that's dope.

Speaker 8 (24:21):
And she's making she's getting physical copies right because it
makes people feel special.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
It's no disrespect. You can download a record or you
can stream a.

Speaker 8 (24:28):
Record, but the fact I got a CD and it's
signed by Cardi B, I could get a chance to
take a picture. I got vinyl and it's signed by
Cardi B. I think that even makes it even more special.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
And it's affordable. It's nine ninety nine. I love that.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
I'm just happy as a rollout because people don't promote
their stuff outside of social media correct Like literally, they're
like posting on Instagram, posting on the Twitter, post it
on their TikTok, and that's it. I am just happy
that it is an actual rollout, that she is actually
out there promoting her album telling people to go by it.

Speaker 14 (24:55):
That's so crazy because rollouts used to look forward to
see what the rollout with and now it's it's like
Carty has always been consistent with having rollouts for her
big projects, but I mean her last album too. But
it's just crazy that we like have to like be like,
oh my god, this is a rollout when you used
to look forward to.

Speaker 8 (25:11):
That artist artists as well. All this got to be
willing to do it. All this got to be willing to.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Do work as well. Well.

Speaker 14 (25:15):
Shout out to Carti and the rollouts and all the things.
I went to a Galore magazine, Tokyo Styles Cardi B
party last night, celebrating them, but they took they didn't.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
I was there and it was late. They hadn't got there. Yees.

Speaker 14 (25:27):
So I left before they came. But they covered out
Gaalorre magazine. Yeah, so shout out Tokyo Styles and Cardi B.

Speaker 8 (25:32):
And she does the Boogie issue, she does the Hood issue,
goes to the club, she does both sides.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
Yesterday it was in the middle. It was in the middle.

Speaker 14 (25:39):
It was like I seen the homies, but it was
a lot of people in there. I was like, how
did y'all end up here?

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Okay, yeah, all right, well that's the latest with Laura.

Speaker 8 (25:45):
Now when we come back, we got front page News
and then Jamaine Dupre will be joining us.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
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You're checking out the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 8 (25:53):
Good morning, everybody. It's j Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some
page newles.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (26:02):
What's up y'all?

Speaker 9 (26:03):
So this is a story that has been having a
lot of back and forth and then there was another
ruling that came down yesterday. So a federal judge on
Tuesday block President Trump's attempt to fire Lisa Cook from
the Federal Reserves Board of Governors, issuing a temporary restraining
order that keeps her on the job for now while
the case proceeds.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
The judge in the case ordered.

Speaker 9 (26:24):
Chair Jerome Powell and the Board not to carry out
the removal. Cook is one of several Excuse Me seven
governors who helped run the Central Bank. She sits on
the Federal Open Market Committee, which votes on interest rates
and helps the banking rules and financial civility policies decisions
the Feds make.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
They make mortgage.

Speaker 9 (26:43):
Rates, rules, car loans, credit card applications, and how banks
are supervised. For months, Trump has pressed the Federal Reserve
to lower interest rates, arguing that his tariff policies will
not push up inflation, but central bankers want to see
how the trade war and other policy affect the US
economy before resuming cuts now. In the spring, Trump threatened

(27:05):
to fire Chair Jerome Powell, then backed off as advisors
warned him this would spark the market volatility.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
So rather than take on Powell, whose.

Speaker 9 (27:13):
Term ends in May of twenty twenty six. It seems
the focus has shifted to reshaping the board now. If Cook,
a Biden appointee, were removed, Democratic appointed governors would drop
to two of the seven member panel now. To do this,
Trump has gone after Cook on mortgage fraud allegations tied
to properties that she owns in Georgia and in Michigan.

(27:35):
Cooke denies any wrongdoing and has not been charged, and.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
She sued to keep her seat.

Speaker 9 (27:40):
During a cabinet meeting, though, Trump was asked if her
attempt at firing was political and if his administration was
weaponizing government by digging into the mortgage records of people
he does not like.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Let's listen to what he had to say.

Speaker 16 (27:54):
No, they're public. I mean you can find out those records.
You can go check out the records yourself. And you
should be doing in that job. Actually, you wouldn't do
that because that's the kind of reporter you are. But
you should be doing that job. I shouldn't have to
be doing And if you did your job properly, we
wouldn't have problems like Lisa Cook.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Right then and there, that's when the reporter should be like, Okay,
mister president, But what about the f Stein Foss Like
whenever he and sol Shoe, you should bring up exactly
what you know bothers him.

Speaker 9 (28:21):
Absolutely, And that was a CBS reporter. Presidents don't typically
fire FED leaders. It's part of a norm that that's
meant to protect the Central Bank from day to day politics.
And it's also interesting to mention that Cook is the
first black woman to serve on the FED board in
its one hundred and ten year history.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
And you said that was a CBS reporter. So Trump
owned CBS, so that that person wasn't gonna bug back.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Okay, all right, Well moving on.

Speaker 9 (28:46):
If you have ever had your flight delayed for hours
or canceled at the last minute and you sat there
wondering if the airline owed you anything, this next story
is for you because the Trump administration is reversing a
Biden era a plan that would have required airlines to
pay passengers compensation when flights were delayed or canceled due

(29:06):
to airline related issues. Now we're talking payouts that range
from two hundred to seven hundred and seventy five dollars,
plus coverage for mills and hotel stays. If you were
stranded because of something like a mechanical failure or a
system outage.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Now.

Speaker 9 (29:20):
The plan was first introduced in twenty twenty three under
the Biden administration as part of an effort to cut
down on jump fees and push for stronger passenger protections.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
It even made it.

Speaker 9 (29:31):
To final approval the stage earlier this year, and it
was waiting to take effect, but the Department of Transportation
under Trump Secretary Sean Duffy says the rule is now
being withdrawn. The airline industry, of course, is celebrating this move.
The Airlines for America that's the group that represents Delta
United in America.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
They called the.

Speaker 9 (29:50):
Reversal a when arguing the rules would have gone beyond
the Department of Department of Transportation's authority and they're not
fixing the real issue shoes.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
But here's what you need to know.

Speaker 9 (30:02):
If you are still stranded or if your flight is canceled,
the airline will refund you, but they do not have
to compensate you for delays. Some carriers choose to do that,
but not everyone. It's totally up to the carriers.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Now that this is so, we still have so we
still do get the refund.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
You still do.

Speaker 9 (30:20):
If your flight is cancer not delayed, but canceled, you
get the re Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yet yet again, I don't understand why this administration is
so hell bent.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
On getting rid of things that actually help people, Like.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Like, after you've been delayed, you want some type of compensation.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
Yes, yes, I've been lated to shows like what are
we talking about?

Speaker 9 (30:42):
Especially if it's not your fault, if there's a mechanical
issue or staffing shortage, they should pay you.

Speaker 8 (30:48):
Yes, something absolutely, not even shows like kids events, Like
there's been times I have to fly back to make
it to a kid's games and the flight was delayed
or didn't happen and I was late or missed the
kid's game.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
So yeah, it's a lot going on. Yeah, you should
be compensated. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
The fact that the Trump administration cares more about what
these airlines think than what everyday people think is part
of the problem.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Like I'm so sick of these politicians that are beholding
the corporations.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Yeah, if I'm talking about like me doing shows, I've
been late to my own comedy shows and people are
there waiting for me, But my flight is delayed and
delayed and delayed and it's like, damn, they want their
money back at the end of the DA you know
what I'm saying. So people miss work is what I mean,
not me going to shows.

Speaker 8 (31:31):
I've seen people miss weddings. I've seen people miss funerals.
I didn't see people miss a whole bunch of things
because flights are delayed, and they can.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Imagine you miss your own funeral because the flight delayed,
because you know, sometimes they got to ship at.

Speaker 8 (31:43):
Your body, the bodies in there a couple of days.

Speaker 9 (31:51):
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Speaker 3 (32:07):
Memie. Maybe do you followers go up when you do that?
And do they be all in your d MS Charlotte.

Speaker 9 (32:12):
That's an offline conversation crazy?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
All right, now we come back.

Speaker 8 (32:20):
Jermaine Dupree will be joining us. JD's Don't go Anywhere.
It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Good Morning, the Breakfast Club Morning.

Speaker 8 (32:28):
Everybody's DJ Envy, Jess, Larry Charlamagne, the God. We are
the Breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yes, indeed JD, Jermaine dupre who's having? How you feeling?

Speaker 3 (32:39):
You're looking at the wall?

Speaker 7 (32:40):
You're looking at the wall.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
We ain't got JD on the wall. I don't know,
I don't I don't think.

Speaker 7 (32:45):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think I made the wall.
That's all right.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
You got JD on the wall?

Speaker 7 (32:50):
Yeah, yeah, they got me up there.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Well, no, see the wall represents like iconic breakfast club moments.
Not that you haven't given us great interviews. I haven't
had you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (33:00):
You have had some you.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Know, studio don't.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
I'm out of that. I'm not in that conversation.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
But you have always coming in and game giving us
a great conversation.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Man. I've been enjoying the Magic City docuseries and it
got me to thinking about like just Atlanta. Like in
Atlanta's had a lot of different runs as far as
music is concerned. But what is Atlanta culture exactly?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Is this?

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Is it the script clubs?

Speaker 7 (33:31):
Yeah, that that's one of the things skating.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
It's a bunch of different things like the bass music
and a bunch of different things.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
But we haven't.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
We've never really highlighted these things the way I guess
I'm trying to do and make sure that people understand
that that's what it is, because I think like people
think like even with the strip club situation, it was
me and whoever else was promoting this from a long
time ago, just black people trying to promote strip club.

Speaker 7 (34:00):
And you learned from.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
The documentary that this was a law that was passed
in the city and might be more states in the
you know South, that nudity was something that they opened
the floodgates and made it a business right.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
So even me.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Growing up, I never realized why it was so many
strip clubs in Atlanta. It was a strip club, damn
on every corner or in every hood in Atlanta, and
I never understood.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
I just thought we was just a strip club place.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
But when you look at this documentary, you start going
outside and looking at all the other places, like in
Florida and all these other places, you're like, oh, it's
a law that was passed, right.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
And I used to come to like New York when
we used to do things and wherever.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I go to other cities and be like, man, why
these cities ain't popping like Atlanta with the strip clubs
and the law. It is a real law that gave
us the entryway to just have this going. So there,
that's a that's an Atlanta thing.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
You know, it's Magic City, the biggest strip club and
the most recognized srip club in the UNA.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
I think, I mean, I think it's been It's been
a couple you know, over the years. I think Magic
is in the top three, of course, but like Booby trapping,
Miami King of Diamonds when I mean, you know, Miami's
always had you know what I mean, They've always had
these trip clubs.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Turnover be Live.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I think that's Houston. So I think Houston, it's a
couple of places that's got. But I don't think Houston
can get naked though.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
It's like we're talking about nudy is fla strip clubs,
it's Miami and.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, Atlanta was nudy nudity. Atlanta need that infrastructure. Now,
That's what when I think about Magic City. I know
people look at it as just the key ball, but
when I'm watching The Doctor, even just growing up, I
think over that infrastructure. People with the break record, I.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Want I mean, that's the that's the thing, Like I
was going to answer your question. The reason why I
wanted to do it is because, you know, we don't
talk about the places that actually helped us get to
where we are. You know what I mean, that part
of hip hop stopped a long time ago. Like when
you watch like Wild Style, right when there's a person
that's not from New York.

Speaker 7 (36:10):
I watched Wild Style. You can see like.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
How Grandmaster cast them, what they was doing to become
and made what made hip hop turn into what it
was here in New York. And in the later years
of hip hop, what shows or anything show kids how
we got you know what I mean, how we got
to where we are. And I think that you know,
it's important for black establishments to show like it's a

(36:35):
forty year old black establishment. The owner went to jail,
they tried to sell his property, he took it back
over and now it's back popping in that he got
a TV show Like that's American dream, you know what
I mean, Like, regardless of whatever good or bad, it's
a Black American dream that we don't ever really be talking.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
About infrastructure now, huh is it needed? Now?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Ye? I mean we need more than any everybody. I mean,
not just Atlanta, like a bunch of cities need to.
It's probably a bunch of other cities that's got like
forty to fifty year old black establishments that don't that
I don't even know about.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
What do you think ruined strip clubs? Because at one
time it was a strip club.

Speaker 8 (37:14):
In every city, they were always big. There was fifteen
in Atlanta, there was ten in New York. What do
you think ruined the strip club safety?

Speaker 7 (37:22):
Right?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I think that's why Magic stands out so much because
you can go in Magic with all your jurey on.
You can go in Magic and be the biggest star
in the world and be standing next to the biggest
criminal in the world. But whatever would happen somewhere else
ain't getting ready to happen in Magic. And I say
that proudly because even me, I go to Magic without security,
like because the security in there gonna take care of

(37:44):
me like they like if they was working for me.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
And I feel like it's the safest club in Atlanta.
So I feel like that. I feel like the.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Safety of strip clubs and how Magic ran the club
strip club etiquette.

Speaker 7 (37:57):
I think that is that that's what killed.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Strip clubs for the most part.

Speaker 8 (38:00):
Now, also, I noticed, you know, growing up when we
used to go to strip clubs, you go with a
couple of dollars, right, and you would you would be
fine all night.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
That's totally changed.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
No, that's not that's just your mental okay, right, that's
just people's mental space.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Right.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
If Magic City is like overly crowded, I'll go stand
by the bar and I might spend five one hundred
to one thousand dollars.

Speaker 7 (38:22):
You know.

Speaker 8 (38:23):
And by the way, Katie, that's a lot of money.
Talk about a hundred dollars, said a thousand dollars at
the bar.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
I'm just saying, let me put this perspective.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
I said, what's happened the other night when Chris Brown
was in Atlanta? They spent two hundred thousand dollars in
Magic City. So my little five hundred to a thousand
over there in that corner is like one hundred dollars, mana, because.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
I have when people say those numbers and I'm like,
I don't believe it.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
I swear to God, I've been on God one hundred thousand,
God one hundred went to Chris, Right.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I've seen people wore one hundred thousand singles.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, I mean one hundred went to christ without a
doubt and Magic in Magic they go.

Speaker 7 (39:04):
When you when you order the money, they bring a.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Magic City bag and backpass for you backpack. So the
backpack had a hundred in it. Jadea waiter, y'all know ja,
she got about a dog, right, I think maybe more
P from QC. I think he ordered forty right then
and that you know that's that's one sixty right there.

Speaker 7 (39:25):
You know what I'm saying. Chris By himself had one hundred,
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
So if you start splitting it up, I think Booo
probably got ten or fifteen twenty.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
You were two hundred fast.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
So when you was in the back of the day
with BMF, how much did you see them spend that one.

Speaker 7 (39:38):
On my album?

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I have a conversation with Meech and he says he
spent six hundred thousand dollars one night.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
That's insanity, that's crazy. What's the most you spent? And
using it with Janet? What did you?

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I mean, had I had a limit, like when everybody
heard me say I spend ten thousand.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
That was my limit.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
So once I got to that ten, I wasn't trying.
But by the way, I'm not in there trying to compete.
I always felt like, you know, at one point in
time when BMF came or when BMF grew, because I've
been in the club with Meet for a long time
before BMF was a crew like that, and we used
to be at the Gentlemen's Club back and when you
watched the episode where Magic supposedly was burnt down or

(40:18):
whatever and everybody went to the Gentlemen's Club, that's back
in the period of time when I actually met Meech,
and Meech didn't have the crew, the crew of people
with him, and we was in the Gentleman's Club, and
in the Gentleman's Club, it.

Speaker 7 (40:31):
Was like, well he signed. We wasn't really throwing the money.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
We was just like giving the girls the money, right,
And that's that's where the whole confusion about who started
throwing the money came from.

Speaker 7 (40:40):
Because I started.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
I started doing this in Money and a Thing video,
And I know people want to say they did it
and did it when you find a video that came
out before Money and any Thing where you see rappers
owing money like this, right, and that I never had a.

Speaker 7 (40:55):
Like, it wasn't about me trying to challenge nobody.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
It got to be that when we them crew came
and it was like, oh damn, they throwing more money
we got to throw.

Speaker 7 (41:04):
It became like a money wore. I was never I
was never part of that.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
We're still talking to Jamaine Duprie.

Speaker 8 (41:09):
The new docu series, Magic City is out right now
and the soundtrack comes out this Friday.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Charlamagne.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
When I think about Mariah Carey getting, you know, the
accolade she got the other night at the VMA, I
don't know if that happens without you. And what I
mean by that is Mariah had a fantastic career, but
that album was like a comeback album that kind of
solidified her forever.

Speaker 7 (41:30):
I was talking to her about this before yesterday.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
And I was saying, like, it would have happened without me,
but Mariah, listen, Mariah is such a New York hip
hop person that she wants to gravitate towards this right
as opposed to like promoting the Boys the Men record,
which was no song her first song of the decade. Right,

(41:53):
she ain't even performed that song the other night, like
you know what I'm saying, Like, she got records that's
bigger than the records I did. That She just like, yeah,
you know we're gonna do this tonight.

Speaker 7 (42:03):
This is what we're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
I listen. I love it because I'm a part of it.
But don't get it twisted. These songs is you know
what I mean? She got records that she could do
that's like hero, you know what I mean, These songs
that's huge, that made her Mariah has sold thirty million
records before I even worked with her, you know what
I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
That charm Bracelet and then that it was that movie
called I don't even remember that that it was a
bad it was dark.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Yeah, but one one black Eye can't kill you.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
No, that's true.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
But then you came back to the mes's vision of
me me, and that's that's a nuclear bomb. I mean,
that's not a normal album.

Speaker 7 (42:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
I just I always look at that like, I'm really
I can't take credit for Mariah.

Speaker 7 (42:43):
She's she's who she is.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
And she was who she was before I you know,
I'm just happy.

Speaker 7 (42:48):
That she let me be a part of the ride.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
I think that puts more person on you though, And
what I mean by that is when you're tasked with
going in there with the iconic person already and creating
something that gets them, you know, back seeing the way
that they were seeing before that you know, last flop.
That says a lot that you was able to accomplish that.
Then to put pressure on me, I would think so
back then, nah, because I don't.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Think about it like you know, Like the thing about
it is when I go in the studio, people I
don't be like, I don't get caught up in what's
happening in their life. And I think that that was
what was going on in her life outside of the studio.
I go in the studio and I'm like, I say
this all the time when I when I work with
Aretha Franklin, she made me realize, like, listen, if you're
gonna be in here working and I'm gonna pay you

(43:30):
and we're gonna let you get this credit, you better
say what you gotta say. If I sound bad, if
I don't even sound halfway good, she was like, tell
me to do it again.

Speaker 7 (43:40):
And I'm like, I can't tell Rita Franklin. Nothing like
this will Rita Franklin.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
But the way she was talking to me, was like,
I flew you here to Detroit to cut my vocals,
So what you're gonna do. You're gonna sit in the
here and there and watch me? Or if if that's
I'm going home. That's what she told me. She'says, literally,
I'm going home, that's what you're gonna do. And that's
when I set that for me, and I'm like, you
know what, I gotta do this. I just gotta be
brutally honest with artists. And when it came to mancipation

(44:05):
of me, me, we belong together. We made the song
like listen Rian, if you don't hit the note that
at the end of the record, the record ain't gonna
be what people want the record to be. They want
you to that's that's what they want. We gotta give
them what they want. And it was like nobody else
wanted to say this. I had to say it, and
I have to be like, you know, if you don't
like me for saying what is real?

Speaker 7 (44:26):
Then while we in the room together, what.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Was one of the artists that didn't like you being
brutally honest? I was like, nah, it's not.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
For me, nobody.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
I don't think nobody I mean, I think everybody want
they don't want to address it, but when it's right,
they're like, oh, okay, you know.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
But a lot of them.

Speaker 7 (44:43):
Like you know Bow, I didn't like. Oh, I think
they like me.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Usher didn't like seem like you wrestled with him every time.
You understand that that's what balance.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
But I'm saying Usher didn't like you make me want them,
and you have to sit there and be like, man,
why what do you what are you listening to that
make you not like this song?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
What was it about the emancipation of me me that
got her back to where she needed to be? Was
it the freedom that maybe you provided? Because I started
Brat telling this story about how Tommy Matola got guns
pulled on you because you let Mariah go to burden.

Speaker 7 (45:15):
I didn't let them do nothing. They pulled off and
went on their own. But yeah, we'll.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Tell the story. I don't know the story, Okay.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
So the first time I started working with Mariah, I
decided to do it always be my baby remix, right,
So I brought Escape and the Brat to her house
that was out in upstate with her and Tommy. And
this was the first time me I started bringing my
people around Mariah and I brought.

Speaker 7 (45:40):
Brat her and Brat kicked it.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
They hit it off, and she convinced Brat or either
Bratt convinced her, let's take a trip in the car,
just me and you and go to McDonald's or some
more together.

Speaker 7 (45:52):
Security left the ground without.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Me knowing and showed up in the studio like what's
going on. I'm like, I seen what was running around
like and and it always looking at me like JD,
this is your person. She done ran off with Mariah
and I'm like, what the Like that was a crazy moment.

Speaker 7 (46:11):
This is my first time being there, this.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Is my first time at her house and I bring
something over.

Speaker 7 (46:17):
This was just like a story.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
You bring something over to the house and this is
what happened. And I'm in the house like this, like
I'm just trying to make a record. Mand what the
is going on where you're at?

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (46:27):
I called her.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
She's like, we just getting some prize and I'm like
what why why? And she was saying that Mariah just
like at that period of time, Mariah was, you know,
this was a different type of successful life at this
point celebrity. She wasn't the artist that could go outside
and go to McDonald's, or she wasn't even doing that,
Like she was sheltered in the house and she she
just wanted to get out, and Brat was her her

(46:50):
person that was ready to go escape and do it.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
So was it that level of freedom you provided her,
That's what I called it? A massive patient?

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Nah, Just I just think I think I make Mariah comfortable, right,
and I don't.

Speaker 7 (47:02):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
I don't fake with her about the music that we
should make. And I think that's what makes her feel free,
you know, free, because I'm telling her, I'm telling anybody,
if you sing, make singing records man like and like,
I get it.

Speaker 7 (47:18):
You want to rap. And I'm a rapper at heart.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
But I learned how to make music, and I learned
through the success that I've had that these people want
these records to sound like the records that they know.
The audience don't change, right, So I just have to
keep beating that in people's minds and letting them know, like, listen,
you might want to change your stuff, but the person
that's listening, they want the new Mariah record to sound

(47:42):
like the Mariah record that they heard before.

Speaker 7 (47:45):
And that's always a hard fight with artists.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Did you ever take your mediciny?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (47:49):
No, no, no, no, she won't.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
She probably won't go to that saying that ain't her
that ain't her bag.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Now back to USh. You said she didn't like make
make me want to? Yeah? Why not was the problem?

Speaker 7 (48:00):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (48:00):
And how'd you get him? How'd you force them to
finally do it?

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Well, I mean I have to force him, but he
also just let me know it wouldn't like that wasn't
what he felt he should be coming with. At this
point in time, Usher was still not sure where his
career was gonna go.

Speaker 7 (48:14):
So he's still cut the song, luckily, but if.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
We was in that space right now, he's not gonna
cut the song right now.

Speaker 7 (48:21):
He ain't be like, I don't know that song right now.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
He don't care if you don't like it.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
It's not even gonna get cut right now. I would
trust you to not he's gonna be like that's right now.
I'd be like, yo, Usher, please cut this song. Us
should turn his phone off.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Like when your name is mentioned fifty years from now,
what's the one record or one artist you want to
define your legs?

Speaker 7 (48:44):
I don't know who the artist is, somebody great.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
I mean I think, you know, I think like watching
Mariah get Van Gold Award and her performing in that
piece to a records that I did, I think that
means that means a lot, you know what I mean? Like,
I'm almost like you're saying, it's like my records loud
enough to make people damn to believe that I had
something to do with her success. To me, that's a

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mean accomplishment, because I didn't have anything to do with
her becoming who she is.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
No, that's not true.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
That's not true. I mean it's the second wave.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yeah, but I'm saying I think I think I might
have made more black people like her, Yes, but she's.

Speaker 7 (49:21):
Still Rode Carrett.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Yeah, but it says something you me. I mean, I
mean about the best album I get its picture me
is brock Carey's best album. Absolutely, that's probably the definitive
album of her whole career. That's her thriller.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
It is.

Speaker 7 (49:34):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
We're still talking to Jamaine Duprie.

Speaker 8 (49:38):
The new docu series, Magic City is out right now
and the soundtrack comes out this Friday.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Charlamagne, what's the hardest personal sacrifice you've made for your career.

Speaker 7 (49:47):
Life. I don't really have no life. I just be
making music, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (49:52):
And I have people that tell me this all the time, like,
jad you know you don't really you my baby mother's
be saying.

Speaker 7 (49:58):
It's like, you know.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
You your life is the music. All you do is
care about the music. All you care about is putting
out records. All you care about doing what you're doing
every day. And that's the truth, it is.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
That's what it is.

Speaker 7 (50:09):
I don't care about nothing else.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
You enjoy the money. You don't go on vacation.

Speaker 7 (50:12):
I mean that come along with it, but it ain't.
That's not that's not a chase for me.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Like my chase is to be you know, like what
they said on the Billboard, I get number one.

Speaker 7 (50:21):
I feel like I feel like I finally did something
by getting number one on that list.

Speaker 8 (50:25):
But that it's never enough because you want more not
but now it's like but it's but it's also like fighting.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
It's like boxing, you gotta you gotta can you can
you stay in that space?

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Right?

Speaker 7 (50:36):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
It's like watching Floyd and Tyson tug why they gonna fight.
It's like Floyd retired, but he still want to be
the He wants to be the best.

Speaker 7 (50:46):
You know what I'm saying. It's like I'm not saying
I'm retired. I'm out here.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
So I just know that, you know, like I also
know that it's space in hip hop and R and
B that hasn't been touched. What I'm doing, going from
ninety two and being becoming the number one producer the
twenty first century in twenty twenty five ain't been seen
ever ever, Right, So if you start doing it ain't

(51:11):
never been seen. You don't have no reasons. I don't
have no reason to stop. I just gotta, you know,
pray to God that don't stop.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
It's funny. I wonder if hip hop had limits you
may do.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
And what I mean by that is when people start
talking about, yo, who's the greatest producers of all time,
They'll start, you know, naming a bunch of people who
do a lot of hip hop records. Right, But you
gotta just say Jamaine is a musician. If you if
you said Jamaine is just a musical producer, then I
think the conversation is a little bit different.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
I mean it's hard, man, because I feel like I
switched from people. I switch up on people so much.
When I'm in R and B mode. I'm not talking
about no rap, right. I remember one time I came
up here and I was so R and BT out
and I want, I'm waving the flag for R and
B and I ain't talking about nothing rap. I think
that confuses the podcast and the guys that usually talk

(52:03):
to me about they like, wait a minute, I thought
this is money anything and you you know what I mean,
Magic city, So you want to make division records, you
know what I mean. I think that that that throws
the whole thing off because I do switch.

Speaker 7 (52:17):
I mean, that's how that's the only way I can
do it.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
That's the only way I can make it is to
get away from, you know, from one thing for a
minute and go into that space and be one hundred
percent in that space.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Is there a media bias even towards the South, But
I think about that with the producers and the artists.
So there's some artists from the South who should be
getting mentioned. It's top lyricists all the time, and some
producers from the South we should be getting mentioned the top.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I just think that and I want to I want
to get I want to show Bank a shout out
because I feel like it's an interview.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
With thug fantastic pushes brilliant.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Finally somebody in Atlanta to the forefront of hip hop
media in the city of Atlanta.

Speaker 7 (52:55):
And I think it's taken.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Thirty years for somebody in the city of Atlanta to
be the person that you have to sit down and
talk to if you that guy in hip hop, and
he just made himself that person if you ask.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
I'm glad I said it on the air. Regional identity
matters in media and everything, and Atlanta has been the
hip hop capital for so long, but have never had
that meeting christ Luther Gray screening on but they've never
had that, And I.

Speaker 7 (53:25):
Think that's the problem, is like every time somebody from Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
That's popped, they always had to come to New York
and no disrespect, but I've been saying it should have
been somebody that did what he did with future Luther
Chris Ti I got out of jail. We know had
so many artists that had so many stories or they
missed the opportunity like what just happened with Doug because
we don't have that person in the city, and that

(53:49):
just that goes to the culture like people should like
I just saw the magazine out there with you on
the front cover of Variety. I've never seen that before
right in Atlanta. I don't think young people read and
see things like that to push them to say, you
know what, I'm wanna do what Charllemagne doing, Man, I
want to do what Envy doing. He got a call
show Like, they don't see that enough to distract them.

(54:11):
All they see is JD throwing money and this is
doing money rapping.

Speaker 7 (54:16):
I'm gonna be a rapper. Nah, you ain't gotta be
no rapper. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Bank getting ready to hit the bank absolutely, you know
what I'm saying based on what he just did that
one interview. Far as I'm concerned, if he do what
he gotta do and he keep it at that level
and the way he talked to him, it makes you
gonna have people that really want to sit down and like,
let you interview him the same way you did.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
And Big Facts has already been that platform to me.
Yea right, and then now to see Bank doing the
perspective with Banks.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah, I agree, but it took thirty years, That's what
I'm saying. It took thirty years for somebody to say,
this is what we need. I'm gonna do it like this, right,
And I'm really happy to see that. I feel like
that's gonna turn. That's gonna change the city, because that's
gonna people. Somebody gonna that and they gonna create another one, right,
and at that point that world will open up.

Speaker 7 (55:04):
Because when I came here, I think the beginning of.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Me talking about Magic City, I was like, Yo, everybody
in New York got a podcast.

Speaker 7 (55:12):
I mean everywhere I went. Everybody got podcasts, cluing them,
got one across the street in a little bar, everybody
fat Joe them.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
I was going to all of them, I mean, Carmelo
them out in Brooklyn.

Speaker 7 (55:24):
It's a podcast everywhere.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
And I was just like this, this this bug ain't
hit Atlanta yet.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
N They got them in Atlanta because you got big Facts,
you got Bank got eighty five South shows in Atlanta.
You got Poor Mind podcasts based out of Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
It's four.

Speaker 7 (55:38):
Y'all want about twenty out there?

Speaker 2 (55:40):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (55:41):

Speaker 1 (55:41):
It's just and they moving. Y'all got y'all got twenty
out here, that's moving. I'm just saying, these guys that
you like the eighty five South Show, I think that's
probably the closest next. But after that, it ain't no
real Like, ain't nobody you gotta talk to?

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Poor mind is big? You sit down, you ain't got to.

Speaker 7 (55:57):
Talk to them. That's what I'm saying about.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
As far as like if you want of these people,
I feel like we don't have We ain't had nobody.

Speaker 7 (56:05):
That you have to talk to.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Like if they was like call me cal the rec coming,
they like jo Ju Man, who you want to have
an in depth conversation with your name?

Speaker 7 (56:14):
Your name is gonna come up?

Speaker 1 (56:15):
And then who's the competitor to Charlemagne in Atlanta? So
I just feel like I feel like Bank put himself
in the category to get you know, the Gucci mans,
all of these people that.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
We want to hear right now, Gunna should be calling
Bank like I need to come sit down with you
and and just three reply.

Speaker 7 (56:39):
But yeah, I mean, but it ain't even like.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
It's just like I said, he just made it where
like Oprah Winfrey, like you want to watch it, you
want to hear it. And he's not gonna hold back
on the questions. And he's creditable in that category to
where you can't run no.

Speaker 7 (56:57):
Bullsh on him. Is he gonna let you know you
running some boy that I love?

Speaker 17 (57:01):
He was.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
He wasn't afraid to push back.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Nah.

Speaker 7 (57:03):
But I mean, but he don't have no that's him,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
He wanted.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
He the guy that told me when I said, he's
like JD, we thought you you want you want to
be from New York. That's who told me that, right,
And I'm like, Nah, I wasn't trying to be from
New York. I'm trying to just push my music. And
I just feel like, like I said, I applaud him
on that interview.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
He did it. You got to run?

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Well?

Speaker 7 (57:22):
Yeah, I mean before I.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Go, I got an album.

Speaker 7 (57:24):
I think my album's coming out on Friday.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
They got yeah, I think cause I've been I had
a lot of sample clearance issues. He was supposed to
come out last Friday to go with the doc, but
I'm hoping it comes out this Friday because this is
the last episode of Magic City this Friday, So we're
trying to make sure the album comes out and I'm
suposed to turn it in by four o'clock.

Speaker 7 (57:43):
So that's what my running is, right, that's what my
phone is through, all right.

Speaker 8 (57:47):
Well, JD, you main do pre may pure check out
the Magic City Dock and of course the album.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Appreciate you always for joining us.

Speaker 7 (57:52):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
It's the Breakfast clubs Jay and.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Always a great time having a conversation. What you may
do pre So JD.

Speaker 8 (57:58):
Guy has done a lot business show has continues to
do more. Warning everybody, we all to Breakfast Club. Let's
get to the latest with Lauren.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
Lauren becoming a straight fast.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
She gets somebody that knows somebody detail.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
And she'd be having the latest on you, the laws,
the latest with Laura la Rosa.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Sometimes you have fact, sometimes you have details, sometimes you
have a little bit of everything.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
It's the latest on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 11 (58:26):
Something So.

Speaker 14 (58:28):
Derek Dixon, who is the man who accused Tyler Perry
of sexual assought, sat down for his first interview after
the filing with NBC News and in this interview he
went over just basically and recounted like you know what
he filed in the lawsuit. So they have a conversation
about what he allegedes happen. You guys, remember that's the
lawsuit for like two hundred and sixty million dollars. That's

(58:49):
the white dude right, yes, yep, who was an actor
on you know, some of Tyler Perry's shows.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
So they talk about a bunch of different things.

Speaker 14 (58:56):
So they get into what some of the instances that
he alleged happens. And one of the things he goes
into is him a legend that Tyler Perry touched his
But let's listen.

Speaker 18 (59:05):
Twenty twenty another alleged incident that you outline in your
lawsuit where you're again at Tyler Perry's home in Atlanta
and it ends up with you locking yourself in a bathroom.

Speaker 12 (59:15):
We started out having drinks in the living room like
we have done before, and it got to a point
in the night where you know, we were both kind
of feeling drunk, and I remember we were walking back
to the guest area where I've stayed before and there
was this health monitor scale on the way and I
was like, what is that? And he said, well, you
have to be in an underwear to measure, you know whatever,

(59:36):
so you should you should do it. He reached down
and pulled my underwear down and grabbed my my ass
and I, you know, tried to stop him and pulled
back my underwear up and he kind of grabbed my
arms and said no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
It's okay, just go with it.

Speaker 12 (59:50):
And I said, you know, stop, I don't want to
be naked. I don't want this, and he was just like, no, no, no,
I'm not going to hurt you, and just.

Speaker 14 (59:57):
Continued, Yeah. So he talks about that a bit. What
why are you looking at envy like that charlamage, I'm
not looking at it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
You weren't looking at envy, not looking at.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
Road saying I will continue to do what.

Speaker 6 (01:00:15):
But you mean with Tyler Perry continue to the audio.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
Yes, yeah, story he said, and then he continues continued
to do it.

Speaker 14 (01:00:23):
So basically because he talks about another time to where
he stayed at or that basically he was saying that
despite him not wanting Tyler or showing allegedly that he
didn't want Tyler Perry's advances, Tyler Perry still continue to
you know, throw advances his way allegedly and things of
that nature. Now, No, I'm laughing at you, Charlemagne. You're

(01:00:45):
getting on my notes. I'm going back to my story now.
He also talks about some of the text messages that
they exchanged. Because Tyler Perry's team is denying all of this,
Tiler Paris attorney Matthew Boyd is saying that this is
someone who obviously got close to Tyler, but it was
because this was all a skin more a shakedown. Now,
let's Tay go listen to him on what the text

(01:01:05):
message conversations they had.

Speaker 18 (01:01:07):
The complaint includes multiple screenshots of text messages allegedly between
Dixon and Perry.

Speaker 12 (01:01:12):
Picture where he's on the jets ski. I said, next
picture and he said, yell, the water looks calm. He said,
nice picture. You don't see that stud in that picture?

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Rude?

Speaker 12 (01:01:20):
And I said, lo l, yes, that's a stud. And
all these texts. I tried to de escalate them and
make a joke out of them.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
Some of the messages more sexual in nature.

Speaker 12 (01:01:30):
One of them says, what what's it going to take
for you to have guiltless sex? Have y'all found that
in therapy?

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Yet?

Speaker 12 (01:01:35):
I would hope that you would let someone hold you
and make love to you just.

Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
I wish you. Who was the stood in the picture?

Speaker 14 (01:01:43):
He said, Tyler Perry was stud Yeah, so it was
a photo in the text message of Tyler Perry on side. No,
like not that type of stud jest like like a
hint soum like you know, like a like a.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Like me I got dead.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Definitely not you like you know.

Speaker 6 (01:01:58):
So they call it. That's the new term. They called
handsome men studs.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Yes, always been that way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
May have always been, like I said, stud man.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
That don't sound right, but that's like an eighties term.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
It's older term.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Now.

Speaker 14 (01:02:18):
They also talked about the fact that this lawsuit is
worth he's asking for two hundred and sixty million dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
They want to know, how did you even get to
this number?

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
But what right?

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
That's why I say, what else did the conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
I've seen a man grab your butt before.

Speaker 9 (01:02:32):
It was you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
That's a lie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
That's my story. That's my story. How did he get
to that number?

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
Right, let's take a listen to in.

Speaker 18 (01:02:41):
Your lawsuit for damages totally two hundred and sixty million dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
How did you arrive at that number?

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:02:48):
Part of that number is my lost job, I lost income,
the loss of the show. The other part of that
is a deterrent for you know, how do you stop
a billionaire who won't stop themselves from I'm doing from
doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
That's a lie.

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
So he was gonna make two sixty Listen, they said
to sixty for two hundred and sixty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Half of that one was gonna make one thirty for
the show.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
And then what show was he on?

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
Lost his job? What show was he on with Tyler?

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Was paying him?

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
What is it?

Speaker 11 (01:03:21):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:03:21):
He was?

Speaker 6 (01:03:22):
He was he got a Beauty in the black because
I watched that he was starring on the Oval?

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Oh yeah, hey, man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Let the record show. I don't believe this man. Okay,
I don't believe me. I don't care what y'all think.
Be mad.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
I don't believe this guy.

Speaker 8 (01:03:35):
I just hate the fact that somebody who accused that
somebody could do interviews.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Why exactly for the actual court case that makes no Like,
why is why is this who?

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
The interview he sat down with ABC?

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Why is ABC supposed to be a reputable news even
organization even entertaining this?

Speaker 13 (01:03:51):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
What what what has he presented for y'all? To entertain
this and give him an.

Speaker 8 (01:03:55):
It doesn't it doesn't make sense. Before they go to
actual trial they're able to do that. And if there's
a jury, the jury, he has one side. Tyler Perry
will never be able to do that because he's being sued,
So his lawyer's gonna advise him to shut the f
up to the trial, So you're only gonna hear one side.
I just think the whole thing is fed up. But
if he does get to sixty four, but.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Grab, I'm coming for you. He's not giving.

Speaker 6 (01:04:16):
Because maybe it's because he's white as well that this
is happening. I can see that maybe they thought the
story would be better and it would stick more because
he's white.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
So I can see that's why. Well, that's what I
don't believe any of it.

Speaker 14 (01:04:29):
Yeah, And Tyler Paris attorney Matthew Boy also said that
Tyler Perry refuses to be shaken down and that they
are confident these fabricated claims of harassment will fail.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
In response to this sit down interview.

Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
Yes, and I just want to say one last thing.
I just said, Charlemagne, it gives me too sixty four
for grabbing my butt. Charlemage didn't say he didn't grab
my butt. He just said he don't have too sixty.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
But I don't know why he gonna.

Speaker 14 (01:04:49):
Say to me, why I can't get through the story
and he here giving you all these faces, why this
story has happened. There's cameras in here, Charlemagne, Like, who
got cameras?

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
You just be talking. I don't understand that one of the.

Speaker 5 (01:05:02):
Envy is a time victim. He like to be a
victim when.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
He so bad.

Speaker 6 (01:05:08):
Yeah, ABC, I've seen you coming and grabbed charlemagne nipples.

Speaker 14 (01:05:13):
Now now we're talking him from the back line to NB. Yeah,
you do hug him from the back of line.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Got weirdness, this nippling, But it's not the same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
Who says Diddy's nipples got brought into course.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Damn you on a road this morning. You just notting serious?
No more?

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
You've been in this room way too long.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Okay, I've told you a million times I'm not mature
enough to have certain conversations.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
I think it's starting to rub off on you used
to be the mature one.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
Diddy nipples did make it into court. I'm trying to
give envy some everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Nipples make it in the court.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
How can you leave your nipples in the car?

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
Yo, please, Dixons I like that.

Speaker 14 (01:05:50):
Dixon said, it's been humiliation and all of that from
him coming out. And now look at you up here
talking about these alleged.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Claims I haven't made, all said, I don't believe.

Speaker 19 (01:05:59):
You're talking about and your all right, humiliation, But you
at tyler probably house having glasses of wine that night,
and y'all walking to the walk into a guest area
like you've did many times before, and you get a
little ass grab and now you want to sixty all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
We don't know, we don't know if he got it,
ask grap Well, yeah, that's but.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
From his story, and we've done this before many of times.
All right, So what happened on the other nights? Goofy?

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
I don't believe him. I don't either, Okay, all right,
Well that to me, I.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
Believe, all right, So you are kind of childish because.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Like that, you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
A young lady named Erica Harper. She is disgusting as well. Okay,
she needs to come to the front of the congregation.
We would like to have a word with her. Our
elders deserve better, all right, we'll get to that next.
It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Good morning.

Speaker 11 (01:06:58):
We wanted to know how you came up with and
don't be a name.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Because today there's a bunch of donkeys out the street.
That is why, Charlemagne, we live a life where we
right are tongue based on Coolie maya finger.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
We never would say anything on the Breakfast Club. The
words of charlemagnea god, he's a donkey, oh man, Charlamagne,
he's giving donkey to day to who.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Now well buster rhymes donkey today for Wednesday, September tenth
goes to Erica Hopper of Washington, d C. She is
forty five years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Old and she's accused of base scamming.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Okay, I'm talking wham bam, thank you scam all right,
super sayan scamming. And let me tell you something. If
there's two things that grind my gifts, it's when people
take advantage of kids and the elderly. Funny how life works. Okay,
we start off as kids that need their asses white
by others, and then grow to be eldest that need
their asses white by But either way, neither version deserves

(01:08:02):
to be taken advantage of. And nothing hurts worse than
watching kids, all the elderly getting taken advantage of by
their own family. And that's exactly what Erica Hopper did.
She is accused of making more than two hundred and
sixty six thousand dallas and unauthorized purchases from an old
man's account.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Would you like to know who the old man was?
Let's go to NBC four for the report. Police.

Speaker 20 (01:08:26):
Montgomery County Police accused forty five year old Erika Hopper
of embezzlement, theft, and fraud. When her grandfather went to
an assisted living home in Silver Spring following the death
of his wife of sixty plus years, Hopper gained power
of attorney in the statement of charges against her. Police
accuse her of using that to spend her grandfather's money,

(01:08:46):
including from the sale of his house, on herself, from
November of twenty twenty one until June of this year.
Expenditures listed include payments on a twenty twenty two Kia Stinger,
the payoff of credit card balances on two cards, stage
area seats at an Usher concert, elective cosmetic surgery, trips
to New Orleans and Las Vegas, designer clothing and accessories,

(01:09:08):
and rent payments totaling more than two hundred and sixty
six thousand dollars. Charging documents accused Hopper of listing her
grandfather's pension and Social Security, making him a co tenant
to qualify for an apartment at a luxury building steps
from Union Market in Northeast DC. Police say he remained
in the nursing home during that time.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Really, Erica, your ninety five year old grandfather.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
If your grandfather touching that kind of paper, he probably
got you in the will. Anyway, if your grandfather touching
that kind of paper, you could have.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Probably just asked them for what you want.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Then you get the money and spend it on a
new car, luxury apartment, cosmetic surgery. But you got a
BBL luxury clothing, concert tickets, concert tickets. Who did you
go see the Wratchet?

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
You wanted to have big fun on your grandfather's dime.
She actually went to go see Usher and didn't even
get no cherries. Now, I know you had power of
attorney for your grandfather, Erica, but that doesn't mean power
to exploit. Okay, we was just talking about this earlier
because Cardi b was on Jennifer Hudson saying how your
kids are gonna take care of you when you get older.

(01:10:16):
They're supposed to. You should be able to rely on
family when you get older. But you can't change a
player's game in the nine inning. Okay, once the scammer,
always a scammer. And know Erica is not Nigerian. I
know you were thinking it, but a Nigerian would never
do their grandfather like this because Nigerians understand those who
respect the elderly paid their own road towards success. The

(01:10:39):
Bible even says you should submit to your elders with humility.
That's first Pter five to five. Erica, you was not humble,
You was arrogant. Crazy thing is you wasn't scamming your grandfather,
You were scamming yourself. Okay, what kind of soulless person
steals from a ninety five year old, especially a person
who was probably gonna leave you something anyway, Hey, elders

(01:11:01):
are supposed to pass down blessings, not get blood dry
by their own bloodlines. Okay, I don't know who needs
to hear this this morning, but please listen to you,
Uncle Shawla. Taking advantage of old folks ain't hustling. That's heartless. Okay,
if you'll rob your own grandfather, you'll rob anybody, and
that's why you have to you, Erica should have to
deal with maximum consequences. They need to make an example

(01:11:23):
of you. That man is ninety five. He fought through
segregation and probably two hip replacements. Okay, he should not
have to fight his own granddaughter for his bank account.
Please give Erica Hoffer the sweet sounds of the Hamiltons.

Speaker 7 (01:11:35):
Oh no, you are.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Of the day, the dogee all the day.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
Yet gotta make an example of her.

Speaker 8 (01:11:54):
Now, I was thinking, I was thinking, mask your question. Boy,
that's your granddaughter. She stole from me. It's wrong, it's foul.
But do you press charges on your granddaughter?

Speaker 9 (01:12:07):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
I got to mention, I don't even remember.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Y'all do what y'all do, but I don't know nothing.
Make sure my money back on my account.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
That should makes your my money back in my count
I don't remember.

Speaker 8 (01:12:15):
Foul, it's horrible, But do you puss charges on your granddaughter?

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
It's not about whether or not he present charges on
some other family. Getting charges pressed on her because she
committed a crime was some other family.

Speaker 6 (01:12:25):
You need some type of consequence, Like you said, I mean, yeah,
you pressed charges on the law as man and then
like right, but she was probably in the will anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
If you're touching that type of paper like you don't
even know, that's crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:12:40):
You don't know because she probably gonna go to jail
for some time time like this, ain't no thirty days.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
She made a choice, but forty she's a forty five
year old woman who made a choice. Still, your grand
choices have consequences, I agree, But still your granddaughter, I
don't care no better you're talking about does she care
about me as the grandfather? What she was feeling for me?

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
No, it was wrong. But you still don't want you
what you do.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
At ninety years old and your in Madison's daughter do
this to you? You ninety?

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
I don't want her to go to jail.

Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
What's fat?

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
It's wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:13:11):
I'm not saying I'm not saying it's right, But you
don't want your granddaughter your granddaughter?

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
All Right, we'll forget it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:18):
And Dan, first of all, Charlamaine, who was thinking that
they was Naigerian? Why you had to say that?

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Who said that you tied y'all accused me of things
I didn't say, No, you did?

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
You say, and I know everybody thinking it's not Jerry,
and nobody thought.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
I had somebody thinking never happened.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Roll the tape.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Never happened, never said the clown, never said that.

Speaker 8 (01:13:36):
All right, well, thank you for that donkey at the
Ache News. Now, when we come back, Larious Oaks, I
wouldn't say that. When we come back, Shakas is joining
us a book how to be Free, A proven guy
to escape in life's hidden prison.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
This is my guy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
He's also the he's the New York Times best selling author.
I'm sure you've read some much Shaka's work before me.
And Shaka was actually at right Because Island a couple
of days ago, talking to the inmates, because you know,
that's what he does a lot of his work.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
And he always shows up for me for my mental wealth. Ex.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Bolls Man, just a really good brother. In this book
right here is really good because so many of us
are trapped in hidden prisons that we cannot get out of,
and he has created a guide to help us get
out of them.

Speaker 8 (01:14:15):
All right, we'll get to that next. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good Morning, The Breakfast Club Owning Everybody is DJ Envy
Jess hilarious Charlamage the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed,
Shakas and welcome back by Man.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
I'm blessed. I'm blessed. Thank y'all so much for having
me back. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
Shaka just put out an amazing new body of work, Man,
a new book, How to Be Free, A Proving gud
The Escaping Life's Hidden Prisons. Man, what is a hidden prison?

Speaker 21 (01:14:46):
It's the things that you don't see that standing away
of you living the best life for yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Right.

Speaker 21 (01:14:51):
So what I've thought about this this big idea and
created this kind of blueprint to help people live the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Life that they're fully capable of, fully deserving.

Speaker 21 (01:15:00):
I recognized that we all had these hidden prisons, you know,
self doubt, negative self talk. You know, that's one of
the big things that kind of standing away. There's also
things like anger, grief, shame, things from our childhood that
really doesn't allow us to show up fully and authentically
in our full potential.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
You know, I wanted to.

Speaker 8 (01:15:19):
I know you got the book out, but there's a
lot that's been going on, and I figured you would
be the right person to ask some questions about everything
going on in Atlanta. It seems like people, I wouldn't say,
glorify the street and glorify things that happen in the street.
And I feel like sometimes people don't know how to
get out of it. Right, you see what happened in Atlanta.
Everybody's this person's a rat.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
When do you get to an age or what do
you tell those young as it says, hey, it's not
worth it.

Speaker 8 (01:15:45):
We see what's happening. But it seems like they don't
learn their lessons. So what do you tell one of
those little young those little young brothers out there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
That's a prison that's not hidden.

Speaker 21 (01:15:54):
But I think one of the things with our with
our culture, specifically like hip hop culture, is we've kind
of intermingled the idea that these guys are really street
guys and really they artists. They're kids who are trying
to figure out how to make money using the talent,
but also using the stories from a background that society
has sold us on as being like the way to

(01:16:14):
show up in the world, right, like the only way
we can make it. And what I tell the young
people is that it's made way more money in legitimate enterprise.
And like I was pretty decent with street sales, but
I can tell you make way more money in legitimate enterprise,
and the accessibility to it now is something we see.
I mean, like you can take a phone and build

(01:16:35):
a whole career, right, And so I think we have
to separate like what's really the streets from like what's
music culture and these kids pretending to be street guys,
because it's kind of ridiculous if you think about it.
If you're making all this money and music, then why
are you going backwards? Because it's not many guys that's
really financially successful coming for the streets, like and I mean,

(01:16:55):
you talk to any of the guys that actually are
you know, recognized from being in that environment, they tell
you most guys don't make real money industries. Most guys
are basically minimum wage, you know workers. So if you're
making all this legitimate money in music, why would you
kind of try to intermingle that with this identity that's
not real?

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Man? That's a great point. And what do you say
to people who act like the screech is a industry?
And what I mean by that is you'll have folks
that will say things to you like, well, who determines
what's legal and illegal, or who determines what's right and
what's wrong. Because they'll say there's people out here that
make money selling alcohol. The people that say here that's
making money selling marijuana. Now, I'm like, that's not the same.

(01:17:36):
Like the screech is not a real industry.

Speaker 21 (01:17:38):
Yeah, no, I mean it's a kind of dispersed industry. Right,
It's like anything goes. But when you look at how
you know, for example, the marijuana industry, right, how that's
evolved to become legitimate enterprise. Right, Like that's where we
should be focusing. How do we change laws and policies
to work for advantage insteady being victimized by these policies

(01:18:00):
and then somebody else reaps all the benefits. And so
you know, I'm always telling you know, the young people
that I mentor is really think about how do you
get ownership and whatever it is you're interested in. Like
that's I've been in SILICONMB Valley for three years, which
actually is one of the inspirations for writing this book
because I work with people that's like ultra wealthy, and
yet I see them have kind of like some of

(01:18:21):
the same prisons that you know, I see people in
the neighborhood. I've seen people who is actually in real
prison have that same kind of mental blocks that doesn't
allow them to show up authentically. Even though it looks
like they got all the traps of success, they're still
not happy and fulfilled. So that's to me, it's more like,
how are you getting equity, but also how are you
creating like the mental equity to really live a life

(01:18:43):
that you want to live.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
I got one more question with that.

Speaker 8 (01:18:46):
Is there a cold when it comes to the street
in your opinion, But we had a conversation about cold.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Is there a cold? Is there a cold that you're
supposed to follow or is.

Speaker 8 (01:18:53):
It just is it legal activity, you know, I mean,
or is there something that guidelines that should be followed.

Speaker 21 (01:18:59):
I mean, I grew up in the air of like
crack cocaine, so I can't speak to with their's codes.
Now I haven't been in the streets in like thirty
some years, and I'm fifty three years old. Man, successful
business man. I'm an entrepreneur, man, I got a kid,
I got investments. But I do you know, I mean,
I still do a lot of work with people in
prison and in the neighborhoods. And you know, I kind

(01:19:20):
of know that the codes are really your personal values, right,
everybody can say that they're real and to them handcuffs
going up to you in that terrogation room, and you're
really facing a life sentence. And that's what we don't
talk about is how many different ways you can end
up serving life without actually even really doing anything meaningful,
just by associations.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Right.

Speaker 21 (01:19:41):
You know, when you're talking about those rico charges, a
lot of these guys not making real money. They just
around and then you get swooped up and the way
the farest players, they gonna load up everything they could
charge you with, and then most likely you will plead out,
which is like ninety five percent of people do.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
But yeah, I don't. I stay out the streets, Andy,
I'm out here just being a grown We try to
tell the younger that to stay out the streets, absolutely,
it ain't worth it.

Speaker 8 (01:20:05):
And any little bit of money you were gonna make,
or any little bit of cloud that you're gonna make,
ain't worth the ten life sentences, two life sentences, or
one life sentence, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
It ain't worth missing your family life, your kids. It
ain't worth it, man.

Speaker 21 (01:20:17):
You know, the nineteen years in prison that I serve,
I watched life go by. You know, I came home,
my younger siblings were adults. My nephews and nieces didn't
even know me. You know, they had to get to
know me. And so you can't you can't replace those years.
You know, there's nothing you can do to get that
time back. And this is what I can tell you
for sure about about prison. Life is the toughest break

(01:20:39):
under those circumstances. Everybody when they when they hit that
pillar at night, they're wishing that they would have made
different life choices, you know what I mean. So I
wouldn't wish that on anybody, and I try to discourage guys.
I think one of the things I will say that
I'm proud of that I'm starting to see in our
culture it's more interest being, you know, placed on actually
the legitimate financial investments.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
You know. I think about what the young brother's doing.
Are your leisure?

Speaker 21 (01:21:05):
You know, I think about Willow and some of the
brothers I've been able to interact with, and I'm like, Yo,
that's that's a move right there, because it's still cool.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
At the end of the day.

Speaker 21 (01:21:13):
If it's really about making money, investments is a way
to make a lot of money, you know, And that's
the freedom that I even talk about in the books
like financial freedom. You know, how are you taking advantage
of these opportunities that's really right in front of you?
And you know, my philosophy is simple. I came from
nineteen years in prison, seven years in solitary confinement, to
becoming really really successful, not only as an author but

(01:21:36):
also as an investor. So my philosophy is like, if
I can do it coming from those circumstances, what excuse
you got?

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):

Speaker 21 (01:21:43):
So I tell my mentees, you got to take every
excuse off the table because I've done.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
All the hard work for you.

Speaker 21 (01:21:48):
And that's you know, That's what I've done in this
book is like, here's a framework and a blueprint for
you to literally live the freeest life possible.

Speaker 8 (01:21:55):
Who's still kicking it with shot that's to go Up's
new book, How to Be Free, Approven God to Escaping
Life's Hidden Prisons.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
One of the biggest hitting prisoners I see is people,
you know, being defined by their past mistakes, are not
knowing how to let go of their past mistakes. So
how do you keep from being defined by your past
mistakes when the system is sometimes even your own people
want to keep you stuck there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Man, I stay out the comments section.

Speaker 21 (01:22:21):
It's brutal out there, man. No, but but but really
it's a lot of self affirming care right. It's like
negative self talk is one of the biggest self imposed
prisons I've found where even successful people are doubting themselves
or you know, dealing with imposter syndrome, like why.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Am I in this room? Do I really belong in
this room?

Speaker 21 (01:22:40):
And so for me, you know, the way that I've
kind of mapped my life out is really through writing
it down. Like journalists, one of the greatest hacks in
life is like when you see it, you can be
super clear on Hey, here's who I actually am, not
who they say I am. I get judged all the time,
like why are you able to do some of these things?
You know, you went to pro I went to prison
for I'm a side. You know, it's one of the

(01:23:01):
most regrettable actions in my life, and it's something I
could never undo, which is why I'm so conscious about
talking to the young guys about the decisions that they
make and I've also lived fifteen years of freedom where
I've been able to create, you know, a lot of
value for communities that I'm in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
I've invested in the community.

Speaker 21 (01:23:21):
In the real way, and so I've done way more
good than i've done bad. But the reality is people
are gonna bring that up. You know, they're gonna judge
you for that. And so that's why that self talk
is so important, and journaling and really writing it down
and getting super clear about who you are really is
what makes the world different.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
Do you feel like trauma is the root of all
hidden prisons.

Speaker 21 (01:23:40):
I think trauma is one of the core anchoring pieces
of the hidden prisons. You know, a lot of how
we see our lives has been shaped by our childhood,
and there's like big trauma and small trauma, right, but
I think it's really shaped by just negative experiences because
some don't quite rise to the level of trauma, but

(01:24:02):
they do rise to the level of like making you
think about something in a way that's unpleasant. And I
think that's where a lot of the negative self talk
comes from. Is like, you know, you're an environment s
might it's like, oh, you can't accomplish that, and now
you've adopted that's not necessarily trauma. It's just negative input.
But now it has you questioned and whether you can
accomplish a thing or not. Right, And so I think

(01:24:23):
there's like the kind of big trauma, then there's like
this kind of small negative inputs.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
How do we use your new book How to Be Free,
to shift from telling young people, especially young brothers, to
do better to actually creating healing spaces that deal with
that trauma.

Speaker 21 (01:24:41):
That's a great question. I think we saw a lot
of that yesterday when we was at Riker. So one
of the things that I've done with this book is
I started the largest book club in prisons. So we
gave the book away to thirteen hundred prisons, to about
a million people who are incarcerated, because I want to
make sure that they had access to this information and
this framework so that they can live the most free
life possible, even though their circumstances doesn't look look free.

(01:25:05):
And I think what we do is we start study groups,
you know, we start to really have these deep conversations,
and like, it was mind blowing to see how the
people who are incarcerated leaned into this book. Specifically, they
had questions, they had thoughts, they had all these things
because we did create a real framework within the book
for them to kind of, you know, guide the conversation.

(01:25:26):
And it was amazing, you know what I'm saying, to
really see how that played out. And I would love
to do that out here where we started to connect
the dots, you know, especially in our culture where it's
like it's wild sometime when I think about wrapping all
the things that they're rapping about, and I'm like, I
really lived that life, and but I may not be
the person that they see as being accessible because I'm
not over indexing on my past. I'm like, listen, I'm

(01:25:49):
living a whole different life and I want to bring
you to this part of it, not that old life,
you know what I mean. But I think this is
a book opportunity that you know, I would love to
see more brothers and sisters in the culture like starting
study groups and think tanks around this framework, because it
really is one of those problems and we don't have
nothing like it in our culture.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Right.

Speaker 21 (01:26:06):
Like you know, when I was when I was set
out to write this particular book, I really was like, Man,
I thought about the books that helped me in my
life while I was incarcerated as a man, think of
the secret man searchs for meaning all these books and
I didn't see any book that was authored by somebody
who really had lived and experience that I had lived,

(01:26:27):
and so I was like, oh, it's up to me
to create that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
And that's how we ended up with this book.

Speaker 21 (01:26:31):
And shout out to my brother being Horowitz, who actually
encouraged me to write a lesson book which was really
powerful and and pathful.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Is a desire to be accepted a hidden prisons? Oh? Absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:26:44):
I think it's one of the one of the biggest
hidden prisons is that we're uh and it's really who
are you trying to be accepted by? And what do
you think that they have that you don't have inside yourself?
And I think when you when you begin to strengthen
your sense of who you are as a human being,
then you are draw to you what you need. But
you won't go out seeking acceptance from any and everybody.

(01:27:08):
The book is out right now.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
And then inviting me the Rikers yesterday, man was climing
to me because I take the security of the king.

Speaker 21 (01:27:16):
He took a security personnel in an environment I didn't
think about it eight thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Yo, it was wild. I don't practice bad It was
that weird.

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
I I was.

Speaker 21 (01:27:25):
I was laughing the whole way as I was thinking
about what is going to happen when it's security walk
in and it's like literally hundreds of officers that are.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Armed, and I'm like, Charlimne, you're rolling in here with me? Man,
what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
I didn't even think about it. You good in any hood,
any prison. When you rolling with me, I.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Understand that I didn't the practice bad habits. You know
what I'm saying the movie, Yeah, that's right, but that
was stupid. And then just make he took his firearm
when he came. They made him say, and you know,
he used to be a cop. So I was like, Yo,
you ever wanted to be a CEO Riker.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
He was like, he's also doing your XBO Yeah no,
not this this year. I'm a Missing Man's I've done
it a couple of years. Man.

Speaker 21 (01:28:09):
It's one of the best best experience. So I really
encourage everybody to go check it out. And we're gonna
do one on Rikers Island. Gonna make that happen.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
But you know, I'm glad you did bring that up, though,
because even though Shaka is not doing it this year,
the years he's done it, it was such an important
It was so important to have you there as well
as Wallow because to your point, every year that we
did it, there was always people there who had either
just got out of prison or got people who are
in prison right now and we don't understand how that

(01:28:37):
impacts their mental especially brothers that just came home. It's
still institutionalized, and they were people like literally saying you,
y'all need to add this component to the mental wealth
XBO because those are the people that are dealing with it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Absolutely absolutely, and I'll definitely be there next year.

Speaker 21 (01:28:53):
I'm so sad to be missing this one, but I'm
super excited to be out on tour with the book
and celebrating.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Man.

Speaker 21 (01:29:00):
This book number three. Man, So this is it's actually
so real. You know, to to and you know you've
written books. You know how hard it is to get
a book, book up, book out in the world. So
super a few weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
Man, So y'all you have your hand braided.

Speaker 21 (01:29:15):
On you know, you know, the wild thing about about
the relationship with Oprah's we're genuinely friends, man. And like
when I when I first wrote my book, I don't
know if I told you the story, but I wrote
my first book in solitary and I was like, Yo,
anybody want to read this book? And the guy was like, man,
it ain't open. Don't nobody want to read this? And
I was like, damn. I was like that was cold.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
But then I wrote it down.

Speaker 21 (01:29:37):
As a goal, opened and read three of my books
and invited me to her home multiple times.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
And said that you were her greatest interview ever. Imagine
open saying that about you, just my greatest interview ever.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Yeah, wow, yeah, And then we became real friends. Man.

Speaker 21 (01:29:52):
So that's that's my girl. And I shout her out
all the time and she always reaches out show. I'm
sure she'll be like Congrand's on pub day, shaka, you know.
So she's genuinely she's who she said she is.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
She didn't cook. We didn't note that time we was working.
It was it was it was great. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:30:12):
She likes.

Speaker 21 (01:30:14):
She actually sent me a few bottles though that she
she she uped my game on the tequilas years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
She asked me what my favorite was. I told her.

Speaker 21 (01:30:20):
She was like, let me send you, let me send
you something, and she sent me three bottles with my
name absolutely and I drunk all three of them. Jesus
all right. Not At the same time, I figured that we'll.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Pick up the book How to Be Free, Shot.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Proving God, the Escaping Life, Hitting Prisoner. Don't get that part.
That's everybody got hit in prison. That's right, for every
hitting prison. There is a door and this book is
the key. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, the breakfast Club.

Speaker 8 (01:30:52):
Everybody is d j en Vy, Jesse, Hilariy, Charlamage the guy.
We are the breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest
with Lauren Hume of the Street Fast. She gets them
somebody that knows, somebody to detail.

Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything, and.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
She'd be having the latest on the big, the largest,
the latest with Lauren la Rose.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
Sometimes you have sometimes you have details, sometimes you have.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
A little bit of everything. It's the latest on the
breakfast Club.

Speaker 7 (01:31:19):
Talk to me.

Speaker 5 (01:31:21):
So yesterday, yeah, I saw with this.

Speaker 14 (01:31:25):
Yesterday I went to Harlem Fashion Harlem's Fashion Rose kick
off to New York Fashion Week. It was a mini
fashion show, but there were It was also the Style
Awards and they honored Ruth E. Carter a ton of
different people, but they also took the time to honor Usher.
He received the Virtual Ablow Award, which was a huge award.

Speaker 5 (01:31:44):
Of the evening. Let's take a listen to Usher as
he accepts the award.

Speaker 17 (01:31:49):
It's a philosophy that, believe it or not, I don't
know that I meant to adopt it, but Oragel had
the sid you got your three and that innovation really
starts altering something that is familiar three percent. So that
right there became kind of a model for how I

(01:32:11):
use what I was introducing again, what I introduced with
what many of the people in my team called my
ambition of just looking up while they look right in
this and always have my best interest in my back.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
I just dream and I see something that I think
is a little bit better. Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:32:30):
So the reason why this award is saw on pack
polls because Harlem's Fashion Row for years now and they've
grown into such a big business and big company. They've
been spotlighting black artists, creatives, influencers, just people who are black.
And you know, when it comes to fashion people always
say we need to have a seat at the table.
Their thing has always been, we don't need to see
at the table. We're building the table, so I can
come because this is the table. And they spotlight the

(01:32:52):
Usher because of all the strides that used to made
the music. But Virtual Ablow, as we know, was such
a big force in fashion as a black creative. So
they honor him with this award now and Usher received it.
But one of the things, uh, that was big that
Usher talked about wash why it meant so much to
him to.

Speaker 5 (01:33:08):
Receive the award in Virgil's name and Virgil's three percent rule.
Let's say to listen to that.

Speaker 17 (01:33:12):
My pop, my nanny, my nanny nanny, my aunt Holly,
and Uncle George and all of these people who were really.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Significant parts of my ambitions. Tenacious little kid who.

Speaker 17 (01:33:27):
Wasn't raised with the father, but they taught me to dream,
They taught me to run a wild and use my
imagination in fashion and all of those things. And although
I didn't know that's what I was doing, I found
by being around them understanding the culture of the.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
South, and you know what it is to be proud
of something.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
I'm happy that the Lord has an evenmedience.

Speaker 7 (01:33:51):
Opportunity to do what I do.

Speaker 17 (01:33:53):
I recognize him over more than anything for being saving.

Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
To me and my heartest moments time that switched to Artie.

Speaker 14 (01:34:02):
Oh sorry y'all, but yeah, so us you're talking about
the South Andy and what this ment in him was
also important too because they talked a lot about HBCUs
and you guys know, I was just at Dell State
yesterday and how in the South, but also just you
know here on the East coast putting money into black students,
which Harlem's Fashion Road is doing a lot of. They
have a huge investment fund that they do is important.
So wanting to give Usher, you know, congratulations there. I

(01:34:24):
was there, Harlem's Fashion Road take took really good care
of me. Shout out to Brandi's and all of her
team last night. Slick Rick was there as well too.
There were so many people in the building last night
to support the organization.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
So Ronkluz BOMs for Usher.

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
Usher can't never get enough flowers if you asked me,
that man of the icon living And you know, when
people have achieved everything that you know, guys like USh
have achieved, they should be celebrated.

Speaker 14 (01:34:45):
Oh yeah, often every chance they gave, every single chance
they get. And I think it's fired too, because he's
been supporting this organization before it was even a huge
organization to support, which always means a lot now shifting gears.
Speaking of creators, Ky Sinett, guys, remember he reviewed Drake.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
I'm glad that we're finally saying his name right.

Speaker 14 (01:35:05):
For so long, I know, and i'd be trying to
sometimes I still slip up and do it, but then
I try to make sure I don't. But yeah, we've
been saying for a very long time. But Kay Sinet,
he's responding to Drake. So Drake posted Kay Senet's top
of his head right ahead. Yeah it was his forehead,
but more so it was the fact that he has
dreads with a low cut. So there's this photo posting online.

(01:35:26):
Make sure you guys go take a look at it
interval so you can see that as well that Drake
posted on his like swipe through and Kai's hair is
like low in the middle, but then he has dreads
coming out the side and he sees this. And this
is because remember Kai got on stream and said he
felt like the Iceman Part three episode was trash.

Speaker 5 (01:35:42):
He's been a huge Drake fan.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
That we know of.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
So this is Drake.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
Because you're a fan of somebody when they put out
something that's whack, you can't say it's trash.

Speaker 5 (01:35:49):
And you can't be honest, not these days.

Speaker 8 (01:35:52):
I mean now, oh you're a drink had No, you
should be able to say if I like a record,
off I don't like a record, I'm still a fan
of that artist.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
I just don't like that song.

Speaker 14 (01:35:58):
Yes, I do think people were called him a Drake hater,
but I think it's ka. But Kai is always very
like neutral. If he likes something, he like it. If
he don't, he don't, and whatever. But his response to
Drake posting him in response to him responding to Drake
was funny.

Speaker 5 (01:36:12):
Let's say, listen to Kai.

Speaker 7 (01:36:16):
Why would he post this up?

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Drake? I'm calling him right now.

Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
I'm so like that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
I'm calling him right now.

Speaker 7 (01:36:25):
I haven't supposed to him for so long.

Speaker 5 (01:36:28):
It's not your calling forward.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
I don't be for Drake, But why is he posting
my like this?

Speaker 5 (01:36:36):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
That's why even think bodies it don't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
People already see the picture and be like, wow, this
is a retwist and never even know where after they
see this, bro, they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Know why you didn't have to reach get a retwist
because it was work.

Speaker 5 (01:36:56):
It was funny. You got to see the picture, did
you do you?

Speaker 14 (01:36:59):
It was fun because right, Jess, thank you for the
face because if you listen, you know it's funny. And
his friend is sitting next to him trying to make
him feel better, but low Ki, he's making her feel worse.

Speaker 8 (01:37:08):
He called Drake first, ran international. Drake didn't answer, so
somebody on the chest to call him FaceTime, so he
FaceTime audio.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
He still didn't ancy yet.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
All I know is I know that hurt Drake's soul
because Drake want the validation that them young stream is
so bad. So you got one of the biggest guys
Kai Sette saying that Iceman was trash. Oh I know
that ice melted quicker.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
I don't. I don't understand it.

Speaker 8 (01:37:29):
You're an artist, right, You're gonna put out a lot
of records and everybody's not gonna connect with he.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
Told us a long time ago, just because you're you're
an artist, and I'm sensitive about but.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
I love you as an artist. I just don't like
this record.

Speaker 14 (01:37:39):
But why can't this just be Drake just responding he
ain't blocked. Kai said he wasn't blocked right, And then.

Speaker 6 (01:37:44):
To be honest with you, I thought it was like
some type of promo. Maybe Drake will end up on
the marathon that Kay is probably that would be sorry
was that?

Speaker 12 (01:37:53):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:37:54):
It just does the same delicious, nothing crazy, just.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
That would be.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Surprised promote Nakai and Drake scream. It seemed like, oh yeah,
that never happened.

Speaker 5 (01:38:02):
It doesn't happen, so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 14 (01:38:04):
But I also too wanted to talk about Marlon Wayne's
on Kyson stream hilarious. Oh my god, I love to
watch the marrying of the two. He is m VP
of Mafia done. In my opinion, here, there are so
many different moments we could have pulled from this that
were hilarious. But let's take a listen to Uh they
were freestyling. It was Reggie and Marlon Wayn's going back
front of.

Speaker 7 (01:38:26):
I touched it on a thigh, cry do this Sydney streets.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
That's who send them red.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
You know why people like Marlon Wayns and Kevin Hart
going there and actually Keki Palma going there and actually
do well, because they got talent, because they're funny, because
they've been in movies, they've been on TV, and they've
been doing this for a long, long, long, long, long,
long long time.

Speaker 14 (01:38:58):
And also to think when you see regular guests, like
other music artists come, even though they watch the stream
and they know the segments guy is going to do,
they always act like they don't know how to jump
in and participate.

Speaker 5 (01:39:07):
Marlin, they come from the Variety show.

Speaker 6 (01:39:10):
It was the best wis thus far. Now he had
other bomb guests and all of that. Yeah, like Marlon
is just just belongs to right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:39:19):
Like that was so funny.

Speaker 6 (01:39:20):
I do think it was rather random how Marlon was
there with Kaylani, Like kay Lanny came in.

Speaker 5 (01:39:27):
I thought that Marlon was there. I thought that was
random as well.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
And also to those artists and athletes can't do what
the actors and comedians do, like but an artists ain't
gonna never be on the level of talent as a
Marlin Kevin Palmer the artist think you could rap and sing, dance.

Speaker 5 (01:39:43):
Like if in living color could meet stream like it was.
It was really good. It was I watch it, Yeah, right, like.

Speaker 6 (01:39:50):
You said, if the Living Color could have met streamed,
that would be funny.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
Yeah, well that is the latest with Lauren. Let's get
to the mix. It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 8 (01:39:58):
Good morning everybody, j V Jess Hilaris, charlamagnea god. We
are the breakfast Club. We had a lot of people
that stopped to we at our Jermain Upree that stopped
through earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
Yes, indeed, saluted Jermaine dupri Man. Listen, Jermaine dupri is
one of those individuals that you're not going to appreciate
talking to until a long, long, long long time from now,
because people don't realize how legendary Jermaine Duprix actually is.
We're such a prisoner of the moment people that we
forget what people have accomplished, what he's done in this industry.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
So when they get celebrated and Billboard says yo Jamain
Dupria is the number one producer of the twenty first century,
people might look at him like what like, no, go
look at his resume?

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Stupid?

Speaker 6 (01:40:39):
No, did y'all ask him? I say something that what
viral like a couple of weeks ago. Did y'all get
to ask him? Did he really say that Escape was
a hard group to develop because they was ugly.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
Oh we talked about that before.

Speaker 8 (01:40:52):
Yeah, now that wasn't We didn't talk about this interview,
but we didn't say ugly though.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
But yeah, but he's no, he said no, no, no, no,
I said that.

Speaker 5 (01:41:00):
He said it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
He did. He's always said stuff like that because you know,
they like what he had three dogs give members of
Escape in the in the nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
So he's even he's talking.

Speaker 5 (01:41:10):
About Okay, cool. I just never heard him speak on
I just heard that he said it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
Remember Biggie said Biggie said in the song back in
the day, he would have sexual rue Paul before he
had sex with them ugly ass Escape girl. Wow, you
know he did not know?

Speaker 8 (01:41:21):
He did not what definitely? Yes, yes, wow, okay, I'm
gonna send you the song let's call Dreams. I'm gonna
send you the song the song.

Speaker 18 (01:41:30):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
Nobody said nothing, not back then.

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
I mean, but but we didn't realize how much that
impacted them back then, because you know, you didn't have
the Internet and all that kind of stuff. Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (01:41:41):
Nobody saying nothing about him wanting to have sexual RuPaul.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
No, this was the nineties, different times, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
Also shockus and Golf for joining us to man.

Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
Make sure you go pick up Shaka's book How to
Be Free of Proving Gud, The Escaping Lights, Hidden Prisons
Man for everybody out there who feels like they trapped
in a hidden prison.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Shaka's book is for you, all right.

Speaker 6 (01:42:02):
Cannot promote Cleveland, Cleveland, Oh Hio, your girl Just Larious
will be there this Friday and this Saturday. We got
four shows. Two shows this Friday, two shows Saturday at
the Cleveland Funny Bone.

Speaker 5 (01:42:12):
Y'all get your tickets at just Solarious official dot com
if you have not yet. I will not be doing
meet and greet. I don't want to get sick two
times in a row. Not doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:42:21):
So Cleveland, get your tickets. The shows are actually almost
sold out. Love y'all so much.

Speaker 5 (01:42:24):
Can't wait to see you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
Charlamane. You got a positive note. I do, man, It's simple.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Not confuse motion and progress, okay, because a rocking horse
keeps moving but does not make any progress.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Have a great day.

Speaker 5 (01:42:38):
That was the dumbest that No find another one.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
You'll get it. You'll get it one day, You'll get it.
Rocking horse don't move, So I didn't say that. I
said a rocking horse keeps moving, but it's not making
any progress.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
It don't go nowhere. It's like being on a treadmill
running in place. You think you're getting somewhere, but you ain't.
You're going to nowhere fast, but you working out. You're
not going nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
Breakfast club, So you're done.

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