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October 14, 2025 β€’ 106 mins

Today on The Breakfast Club, Miguel opens up about his new project CAOS, fatherhood, his relationship with his ex-wife, love, anger, heritage, and finding clarity amid U.S. crises. Tiffany Cross, Bakari Sellers, Andrew Gillum, and Angela Rye also join us to discuss the ongoing government shutdown. Plus, Charlamagne Tha God gives Donkey of the Day to a man who fatally shot someone after a dispute over not saying 'thank you.' Listen for more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo Yo.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Just is running Little Lake Chelamagne the Gap, Peace to
the plane. It is Tuesday. Good morning, how y'all feel
out there?

Speaker 3 (00:14):
I feel blessed, black and holly favor, but happy to
be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good morning, Vy, your back, Yes, I'm back. I was China,
man Yo.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
China was dope drop a bomb for China, Okay, So
I was.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Out there for the NBA.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
The NBA does, I guess they're going international, so every
year they do games in different places. They did in
Dubai a couple of weeks ago, when they did China
last week it was the Brooklyn Nets versus Phoenix Suns.
And first and foremost, China is one of the cleanest
places I ever been in my life. Really, Yes, I've
never been like I've been to Dubai, and Dubai was clean,
but China is probably way cleaner. Like you don't see

(00:51):
any pollution anything on the floor, no homeless people, no
smoking cigarette buds, nothing that is just strictly clean.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
The food was great. Uh, they showed me so much love.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
And it's surprising that people they listened to the Breakfast Club,
they knew who I was, they knew some of our interviews.
It was just it was just it was an experience. So,
like I said, they do two games each year. Next
year they're doing it as well, and it was great.
It was I seen so many people. Starberry was out there,
Shaquille O'Neill, Sewn Mary stuff, Yeah, Sean Marion was out there,

(01:24):
Vince Carter was out there. It was up just who
else was out there. I seen Jeremy Lynn was out there.
Jeremy Lynn and should be one of the biggest. He's
one of the biggest players, but one of the biggest.
Payment Like, like they love Jeremy Lynn, they should be
y'all mean they should yea. When they walked when Y'allming
and him walked in, I mean, it was it was
crazy that I've seen Gin rapper Gin. I saw that

(01:46):
that looked very stereotypical.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I was like, what the hell is Jin doing in
China like that just he's from there, I know, But
I just.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Just you know, yeah, so Chinese people in China.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
No I do I just didn't expect to see Jin
like with seeing n be with Jin was just.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Like very like, yeah, Gin is actually he's huge out there,
like they love Gin. He's an MC out there for
the games. He told me he lives in Jersey. Actually
that's my point. Jersey so saluted Gin. But I had
a great time for it was amazing. The food is
so clean, the Chinese food there, and they had a buffet,

(02:20):
fresh bat, they had everything.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
They just just ignore him.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
They had every type of food you could imagine, from
sushi steak, from American few food to you name it.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
I know the American food was even clean.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
It was it was clean, and they call it American food,
but that was just food, was just food. You know
how to overhear we say Chinese food, they have you
said American food, So did they call it American food?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
An American food.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Restaurant they had like shake shack. They didn't say American
food shack, which is shake shack. But the restaurants were great.
We went through and there was a there's a Kate
pop and seapop is huge, so I got a chance
to do a TikTok with a K pop artist.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
My name is Jess. Yeah, so it was. It was
really good.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
We had a great time, and so I know we'll
be back playing. I'm playing a little bit of everything.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
That's what's up.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Kendrick was probably one of the biggest hip hop artists.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
You played on Chinese songs K.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Pop I played. I don't know what I played. They
just gave it to me.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Don't bring none of that over here this morning. Now,
let's just unless it's fire.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I might No, I'm not playing ok pone here this morning,
but it's K pop and sea pop.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
But it was. It was dope and they love like
crossover like Lady Daga. It's probably probably one of the
biggest American artists when I played in the class.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
That's that's all right, Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
It was also so to everybody in China, and that's
from Chinese that listened to the Breakfast Club. We had
an amazing time. I met the owner of the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, Chinese, he's Chinese. That's what's I just take the
conversation before we continue on.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I'm sitting next to Jeremy Lynn and this young twenty
three year old twenty look like twenty four to twenty
five Chinese gentleman comes over to Jeremy Lane. It was like,
I was a fan boy when I met you. I
signed your autograph, you signed my jersey. So jerman Land
was like, no problem, it's like thank you, thank you,
was like, yeah, I owned the Brook the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Now, dang. We looked at what He's like, yeah, I on.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
So you didn't even know that he looks like Logan.
Don't so.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Joe Chisholm is Chinese, the Celtics owner. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
What's making this up. He's not gonna this guy, Bill Chisham,
don't nothing. Nobody him look Chinese and he old as hell.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well maybe that maybe it's the sun because he said
he was the nineteenth He was.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Over there in China sitting with him because to him.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
He was the nineteenth son. And he said he said
he bought it with a bunch of his friends. He
said it's part of a group.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Yeah, okay, So did you learn any words?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
No? What I didn't learn any words?

Speaker 6 (04:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
So salute everybody a getting in China.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Salute to Reggie who brought me down and and everybody
had an amazing time. Hopefully I'll see you guys next year,
fifteen hour flight though fifteen and a half to get back.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah gotcha.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I'm proud of you.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yet I had a good time. So sleute everybody again.
Now let's get the show cracking. Miguel will be joining
us to spending. He has a new album called Chaos Man.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Let me tell you something. First of all, I hold
Miguel's music in high regard. He had then put out
an album in eight years. I think Warren Peace was
his last project. So I've been listening to Chaos all weekend.
So I cannot wait to sit down and have a
conversation with Miguel.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yes now, if it already, had it happen, you're happy yesterday.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
And also Angela Rie, Tiffany Cross, Andrew Gillim and Bakari
Sellers will be joining us the host of the Native
Lamb podcast. Yes, we'll chop it up with them as well.
All right, and let me salute the Phully Philly. I
heard we in Philly now, Yes, what's up Philly and
Philly shuret salute to Philly. All right, let's get the
show cracking. This's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning, everybody
is dj n V jess hilarious.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Charlamage the guy. We are the breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Let's get in some front page news, National, Quick Sports,
and Monday Night Football. The Bears beat the Commander's twenty
five twenty four and the Falcons beat the Bills twenty
four to fourteen. And Major League Baseball, the Dodgers beat
the Brewers to one. They leave the series one nothing,
and the Mariners beat the Blue Jays ten to three.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
They lead that series to nothing. All right, what's up
to me?

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Hey girl?

Speaker 7 (05:53):
Peace May, Good morning everyone, Good morning.

Speaker 8 (05:58):
All right, Well we start this morning and the Middle East,
where President Trump just wrapped up a fast moving trip,
calling it a historic dawn of a new error, and
the president he signed a US broker peace deal in
Egypt alongside key leaders from Israel and across the region,
marking the official end of the two year war between.

Speaker 7 (06:15):
Israel and Hamas.

Speaker 8 (06:17):
Trump says, the agreement will not only end the fighting
in Gaza, but could reshape the Middle East, calling it
his most significant foreign policy achievement yet.

Speaker 7 (06:26):
Let's listen to some of that speech.

Speaker 9 (06:28):
But the momentous breakthrough that we're here to celebrate tonight
is more than the end of the war in Gaza.
It's with God's help, It'll be the new beginning for
an entire beautiful Middle East. From this moment forward, we
can build a region that's strong and stable and prosperous
and united and rejecting the path of terror. The final

(06:48):
sprint to this deal began less than three weeks ago
on the sidelines of the United Nations in New York.
I met with many of the people in this room,
and it all just started coming together.

Speaker 8 (07:02):
So as part of that deal, the last twenty living
Israeli hostages held by Hamas were released yesterday, and they
were released in exchange for the freedom of nineteen hundred
Palestinian prisoners that President Trump declared the war over, but
experts warned the peace may be very fragile. The deal
requires Hamas to give up its weapons, something many believe
will be difficult to enforce, and while celebrations took place

(07:25):
in Israel and in Egypt, Gaza's future remains uncertain. After
two years of relentless air strikes, much of the region
is in ruins, and humanitarian groups say rebuilding.

Speaker 7 (07:35):
Could take decades.

Speaker 8 (07:36):
But back here at home, the deal is drawing rare
bipartisan praise. Former Presidents Biden, Clinton, and Obama are all
applauding the release of the hostages and the pause and fighting,
with Biden calling it a long overdue moment of relief
and a chance for civilians in Gaza to rebuild their lives.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
So yeah, I mean, let's hope. So I hope they
maintained peace.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
I'm glad the hostages came home, and I hope you know,
they both keep you know, a ceasefire. Yeah, but it
is kind of strange thought because Hamas feels Israel shouldn't exist,
and you know, the current is rarely government BB and them.
They don't want a two stage solution. So what is
peace going to actually look like long term?

Speaker 8 (08:16):
Yeah, and that's what they're still trying to find out
because it's like a twenty point deal and so right
now they're still like on the first phase. And so
who knows as this keeps going on, Charlamagne, what this
will look like.

Speaker 7 (08:25):
So we will continue to follow that.

Speaker 8 (08:27):
And a warning this morning for the forty two million
families who rely on Snap benefits, better known as food stamps,
States are alerting recipients that big changes are coming, so
a November first deadline is approaching for states to comply
with the new One Big Beautiful Bill, a sweeping law
that passed this summer that completely overhauls the SNAP program.
And the program helps low income Americans put food on

(08:50):
the table, But with federal spending on SNAP being cut
by one hundred and eighty six billion dollars over the
next decade, experts warned that many could lose access. Now
one of the biggest challenges targets what they call able
body adults without dependent So to keep their benefits, they
now have to prove that they're working eighty hours a
month or they're in school or in a training program. Now,

(09:12):
without that proof, their benefits will stop after three months.
Now that rule used to only apply to people between
the ages of eighteen to fifty four. It now applies
to anyone under sixty five and then just a few
more exemptions, so only parents with children under fourteen are
excused from that work rule that I just mentioned. Before
it was eighteen and veterans, people without stable housing, young

(09:34):
adults leaving foster care will also now have to follow
that work rule. So the law is just changing for
anyone who can receive US SNAPS. We're talking refugees, asylum seekers,
and survivors of human trafficking. They are all expected to
lose eligibility. But the federal officials say that they will
be putting out more guidelines soon and so we'll have

(09:55):
to keep checking back to see what that looks like.
But for families, you guys already stretched and these changes
could mean a lot of tough choices at the grocery store.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
I'm telling you it's gonna be a cold winner. Y'all
better bundle up word the freeway. Your folks is gonna
be starving, you hear me. This is gonna be the
year that you really gonna have to remember the reason
for the season when it comes to the holidays.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
It ain't gonna be no gifts, all right, absolutely.

Speaker 7 (10:18):
And speaking of the holidays, yeah, jess what were we saying.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
I said, I've been doing that for years anyway, everybody's
even knowing the reason for the season, all right.

Speaker 8 (10:28):
Well, And speaking of holidays, if you're looking for a
little extra cash this holiday season, there may be some
good news on the job front. Will tell you who's
hiring and how to cash. And that's coming up at seven.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
It ain't only fans in its selling before this, so
I'm gonna be hard. It's gonna be some ass selling.

Speaker 10 (10:48):
All right.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
We'll see you next hour, Me and me everybody else.
Get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five
one five one. If you need the vent, call us
up right now again. Eight hundred five eight five one
five one.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 10 (10:58):
Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Ray right, Ray Yo, Charlamagne Jafy, what up are we lost?

Speaker 10 (11:07):
This is your time to get it off your chest.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I got an indoor pool, outdoor pool.

Speaker 10 (11:12):
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 11 (11:13):
Get on the.

Speaker 12 (11:14):
Phone right now.

Speaker 13 (11:15):
He'll tell you what it is.

Speaker 14 (11:16):
We lie.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Hello, who's this?

Speaker 15 (11:18):
It's take you from Texas?

Speaker 2 (11:20):
What's up from Texas? Good morning?

Speaker 15 (11:22):
Hey, welcome back in the so. I know good morning
USA meant something different today.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Huh sure, sure did. Back home.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
That was a long flight though I had a great time.
Though it was it was it was a great time.
Makai is like the Vegas of China, so it's like,
uh nothing, but casinos is very beautiful. Like you know
how Vegas has casinos based off different places Paris.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
And the New York. Yeah, it's the same thing. There,
but on a whole different scale.

Speaker 15 (11:47):
Wow, oh wow, Well, I'm coming to tell you I
really enjoyed that Allan Iverston interview.

Speaker 16 (11:54):
From the clarity in his.

Speaker 15 (11:56):
Voice to what he was saying the specific about his friends.
I wanted to just weep. It was so sincere. The
Breakfast Club has a way of extracting information from people
that nobody else gets and I was just glued to
the radio. It was so so good, and I just
wanted to thank y'all for having the ability to do that.

(12:18):
And also, speaking of the interviews that be an interview
yesterday it was real good too. Yeah, I'm about to
be Peddy and maybe you can go ahead on and hang.

Speaker 16 (12:28):
Up on me now.

Speaker 15 (12:29):
But her bread stink, because you know, in Peddy and
pretty Curtis said her bread steak.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Now does it go ahead on, y'all get hang up
over there.

Speaker 11 (12:40):
It's okay.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
People were saying that we were being biased, how we
were being biased.

Speaker 15 (12:49):
No, I like it because you know what even just said,
she enjoyed it, just said online, she liked the flow.
I liked that song because she gave us a little
Biggie and she gave us a little kim in that
throow of that song.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
I did tell Justice, well, music is subjective, and to me,
that's what I thought about it.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
I thought she did great, she is she has but you.

Speaker 15 (13:13):
Know, you could tell she kept talking about she didn't
want to argue with party. Okay, you know we've heard
that everywhere else.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
Whoever you're arguing with has some balls, So go ahead.

Speaker 15 (13:23):
On and argue with him because whatever it was, and
it's okay, bye, y'all.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
I like this.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
It's crazy because some people will watch interviews and project
how they feel like they know rock with Cardi, so
they like, look at them being by.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
We're just sitting there having a conversation.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
But because you and't got it in your mind that
we team body, which I am.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I ain't.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I'm gonna I'm not honest, but we're not being biased.
That interview nothing she said what she said about Cardy.
We didn't even put you back on it, like, okay.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
It wasn't biased, but it was nothing. Three questions about that.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
It was.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
It was a lot of questions about it Cardy when
we started, because but you got to going back being
came to.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Us last year, I mean last week. So she before
she did all the other interviews. She came to breakfast,
so of course you're going to ask her about CARDI
is pretty impetti.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Of course, that's what I'm saying, of course, But.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
But how that was being bis We wasn't biased.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
We asked about it, asked where it started, she explained it.
You know, I don't think it was biased, but the
sad thing is.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Te bardy regardless.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
But we weren't attacking. I don't think we'd take anybody, period.
But it was just heavy on the cardy questions.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
That's all. In my opinion.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
It was exactly late. Absolutely, Hello, who's this James Lauren
d you?

Speaker 6 (14:53):
I'm doing great, hobby blessed. I just want to say
to the but I'm a bus driver out here, and
I just want to get this off my chest. These
people out here need to respect the sign when it
says to stop, because they keep going and I don't
think it's right. I just want to shout that out
to all the bus drivers out here in the world,
protecting these children getting safe to school and back home.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yes, y'all are very underrated, you know what I mean.
We trust y'all to get on y'all busses and get
us to work. On time, get our kids to school.
Hope that y'all not crazy because of who the hell
now stop you said?

Speaker 10 (15:27):
Nobody.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
They're not stopping that stop sign.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
They don't stop stop. It's a lot of driving.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
I live in.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
Rockland County over here by Nyak and Spring Valley, and
there's a lot of people that don't stop and keep going.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
When that stops sign. Come out on the side of
the bus. You mean you got you got do.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
It right right on the side of the bus to
side in the front.

Speaker 13 (15:44):
So it's like they need they.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
Need to understand that it's serious out here.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
I do have a question.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
If the students start uh fighting or disrupting on the bus,
what can you do do? You just got to pull
the bus over and call for help. You can't stop them,
right or you can't put hands on them to break
them up.

Speaker 9 (15:59):
Right.

Speaker 6 (15:59):
Really, we're not allowed to do that. You just pull
over like you said, and call dispatch and let them
call the school or whatever. Get another bus out there. Yeah,
we're not allowed to touch your children at all.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
No, No, Well.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Thank you, and we appreciate you. I know it's a
tough job with them students on the bus intwn.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
Yes and I just want to say change and congratulations
on your daughter's engagement.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Thank you so much, Charlie Maine.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
I'm trying to get out there to your one of
your mental illness things out there. My granddaughter's going through it,
so I need some help with her.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Okay, damn.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
We just had the fifth Annuel mental Wealth Exibole, but
we putting no and I.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
Couldn't make it out there. But yes, I would love
some information so I can get my granddaughter some help.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Go to go to Mentalwealth Alliance dot org. Go to
Mentalwealth Alliance dot org and we got a resource out
there that you can tap into.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
Yes, and thank you guys for having me. Oh my god,
I'm so excited.

Speaker 13 (16:49):
Jeff Hilarius, you are the bomb.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
I love you too, and Lauren get from my love.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Y'all have a great day.

Speaker 12 (16:56):
I love you all.

Speaker 6 (16:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Speaking of Musky, Oh my goodness, get it off your
chest eight hundred.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
If you need to vent, if you all right, if.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
You need to vent, things has never changed, Jesus, I
know it's the breakfast club.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
It's crazy.

Speaker 10 (17:16):
The breakfast clubs your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're mad or blessed.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I hate the way that you walk, the way that
you talk.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I hate the way that you treat everything.

Speaker 12 (17:28):
When he is best call up next eight hundred five
eighty five five one.

Speaker 17 (17:33):
That's just me.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I'm with the coach of Philip. Hello.

Speaker 10 (17:35):
Who's this?

Speaker 11 (17:36):
Yeah, good morning?

Speaker 16 (17:37):
This is your boy, Prince Prince?

Speaker 18 (17:38):
What up?

Speaker 10 (17:39):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Get off your chest? Ain't up?

Speaker 19 (17:40):
Man?

Speaker 10 (17:41):
Good morning?

Speaker 13 (17:42):
Breakfast club family, Charlemagne chest and DJ empty. Yeah, man,
I got a question for you, Envy.

Speaker 16 (17:49):
Yes, sir, your trip to.

Speaker 13 (17:52):
China, you said it's very clean over there.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Right, It was very clean.

Speaker 18 (17:55):
Absolutely, I've heard different, and I was like, is he
sure he's not talking about Japan, because I know Japan
is very.

Speaker 10 (18:02):
Clean, Sir.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
I went to Macad China, Yo, I could to go
see two basketball games in the DJ.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
It was very clean, sir. It wasn't Japan.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I was China is a big place that's like you
might like there might be parts of China.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
That landed in Hong Kong and drove to Macad, China,
which was about a thirty five to forty minute drive.
And when I was walking through the city, which I
did because you know, Ben's had me walking around checking
out the actual city, the country.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Ben's look eight feet all over there by the way.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
No, you understand they were running up to her taking
pictures because they thought she was a w NB.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
A lot like transportation. I'm surprised in Chinese people didn't
try to ride her feet some that's actually a really
good one.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
That's crazy though, Yeah, but mad China, which is like
the Vegas of China where they have all the casinos,
is actually bigger than than Vegas and it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
But no, that was very clean, sir.

Speaker 13 (18:50):
But well that's that's cool because the Japanese people, I
heard that very particular. They like everything in the in
the right place. You know, it's got to just be perfect.
And China, I know it's a little different.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
But yeah, I've been playing too, but this was my
first time in China. They're both pretty clean. But China
was was definitely like I couldn't even find a cigarette
butt on the floor. Like it was that they had
people walking around with like a.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Cigarette looking for but on the floor. You a nasty
freaking people smoking when you like, when you walk you
see the cigarette but.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
On you little power ranging cigarette.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
But my good goodbye, sir.

Speaker 18 (19:27):
You know what, man, I'm glad, Hey, Hey real quick,
I just want to say I'm on my way to
work and uh I'm fifteen minutes late, just like justin Charlomagne.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
First of all, okay, thanks.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well, like I said, damn boy, I know what are
you talking about?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Hello?

Speaker 10 (19:45):
Who's this?

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
What's up now?

Speaker 16 (19:47):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (19:48):
This is Santory from big city across Carolanta A cross.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
What's happening this with everybody? And cross Man? Get off
your chest, brother, that's what's up.

Speaker 11 (19:56):
I'm calling to get off my chest. Charlamagne. When you
was down here and you did I believe it was
your back to school thing on August to night. Yes, sir,
there is some big things going on right down the
road in the city across. My son, Carmelo was awarded
the Gate Scholarship. I don't know if you're familiar with that,
but it's like forty eight thousand appletentts. They only chose
seven hundred and fifty and he was one of them.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
He was there.

Speaker 10 (20:18):
That's what's up.

Speaker 11 (20:19):
He was able to go to any school in the
United States, fully funded all the way up until I
believe it's like whatever comes a little bit above underground.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Aren't too sure ifout that, but that's incredible.

Speaker 11 (20:32):
I'm like Charlemagne not tapped in right down the road
from him. So that's what I was just calling to
get off my chest and let everybody know that the
community did a great job of supporting him. Everybody came
out and just you know, did they than We got
a four star recruit coming out across this here going
to the USC. My son went to the USC as well,
got another son up there and Newberry going big things
playing football. So we're down here coming from the big

(20:53):
city across doing it. Man, there's still a little bit
more tapped in.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
I congratulations.

Speaker 11 (21:02):
You right down the road my brother.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yes, sir, do you know who got a scholarship?

Speaker 11 (21:05):
And Mom's called I'm not sure exactly, but it wasn't
It wasn't that big.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
It wasn't no I respect, respect, respect, respect, respect, scholarship.
It was you said, the Gates scholarship you heard going
to the University of South Carolina.

Speaker 10 (21:25):
Yes, he is.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
But that's a great thing both for your appreciate that.

Speaker 11 (21:30):
That's what's up, y'all. Keep doing.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Thank you King.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
See Charlamagne Tapp who got the scholarship. We got the
scholarship in Baltimore. I I got a scholarship in Delaware.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
But I'm happy for that. That young man me too.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yes, all right, get it off your chest. Eight hundred
five eight five one oh five one. Now we got
to leader with Lauren.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
You all what read it?

Speaker 16 (21:46):
Out Let it out let U.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
That's domb Okay, it's like the rustic genom give.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
If she'd had the sleeves up, I would level.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Oh yeah, yeah, yes, very misleading, la very.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Sleeping, you know, damn Yo, it wasplished.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
She don't need to figure the hair, yo.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
She just what you need to do.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
And for once be a good sister and tell her
she's doing this right.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
There.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
I didn't even get to nothing make up, just like
she just.

Speaker 20 (22:31):
We broken off at the baby girl. We're gonna be good.
We got something for y'all with that.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
All right, we're talking about.

Speaker 20 (22:37):
Ladies and Lauren. Okay, we done started some trouble, y'all.
I'm gonna tell y'all in the Latest we the Breakfast Club.
This right here, we got somebody in trouble in the city.
An interview we did, and we have a conversation about
the trouble we started.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
I don't even be here like that. The Latest it's
a great conversation.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Okay, we'll get to that next. It's the Breakfast Club,
the Morning, the Breakfast.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Club, Lauren becoming a straight fast.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
She gets them somebody that knows somebody.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
I'm a home girl that knows a little bit about everything.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
She'd be having the latest on the.

Speaker 10 (23:16):
Latest with Lauren la Rosa.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Sometimes you have fact, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you
have a little bit of everything. It's the latest on.

Speaker 10 (23:22):
The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Alrighty guys.

Speaker 20 (23:25):
So remember when Little John was here on the Breakfast
Clay Girl and we were having a conversation with him
about who started crunk music?

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Oh, Memphis is upset with Little John? What they saying?

Speaker 20 (23:39):
So okay, so the conversation, who play the conversation? Yeah,
we're gonna play a conversation. Let's listen to Little John when
he was here on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Do you have a trademark the word crunk? I can't remember.

Speaker 16 (23:50):
Probably did all my ad lips.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I know that because you're the face of crunk.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
But to me, I would have to give I would
take three six mile few probably the So.

Speaker 21 (24:00):
That's another argument going around. It's an argument that says
Memphis started krunk Here's here's what I will say. We
in Atlanta. You couldn't be in Atlanta in the nineties
and not be listening to eight ball MJG. You couldn't
be riding around not listening to master P.

Speaker 16 (24:19):
Master P.

Speaker 21 (24:20):
Master P changed the landscape of.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
The South, the South period.

Speaker 21 (24:26):
He was the first one that really got us rally.

Speaker 16 (24:28):
I would say it was master P.

Speaker 21 (24:30):
I will say Memphis is part of the influence, but
our sound is different.

Speaker 16 (24:34):
Memphis was getting.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Buck all right.

Speaker 20 (24:37):
So DJ Paul and Little John had a conversation, and
let's take a listen to what Little John says he's
been feeling as far as his reaction people's reaction to
that Breakfast Club statement, Look, you have.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Number one Little John.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Every day?

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Can you play DJ DJ?

Speaker 11 (24:56):
I got it?

Speaker 4 (24:56):
D I upset when he heard the Breakfast Club interview.

Speaker 21 (25:02):
I can't believe he was like, how he ain't showing
me this?

Speaker 18 (25:04):
Look.

Speaker 10 (25:05):
I'm like, I literally shout it out.

Speaker 22 (25:07):
You know what call these people is when you were
when you said that we didn't hear hear about it
till ninety seven, and that was where everybody was talking
about in the comings.

Speaker 19 (25:17):
They was like, no, we came out in ninety four
and it came out before us and before.

Speaker 10 (25:22):
Abound about it or whatever whatever.

Speaker 19 (25:24):
And see that's what that's what would have fixed everything. Obviously,
you know, it was a lot to think about. You
wasn't thinking like that. You know who would be. But
if you would have said, like, it didn't come, it
didn't hit in the club to ninety seven, people would
have understood we.

Speaker 11 (25:39):
Were djailing from cossette tape nigga.

Speaker 10 (25:41):
I had two tape decks. It was crazy, I really had.

Speaker 19 (25:45):
I had a tape deck and a turntable, so, you know,
because we had to play our music.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
He's right, Baul's right. Mphis, Memphis was the father of
the crunk.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Taylor Club Up was like ninety four ninety five, but
then they remade it in ninety seven, so it said
Taylor Club Up ninety seven on whatever, the CD device,
whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
I stay out in the South business. I wasn't I
stay out the South business.

Speaker 20 (26:05):
I didn't know that it would get this heated, honestly,
but yeah, I'm about to start staying out of it.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
The only reason why I didn't know that is because I.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Feel like I was born because you was a kid.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
They talked so dj dj Pon said that though.

Speaker 20 (26:18):
He said, if you are under a certain age, you
can't even have this conversation. And I was like, he's
definitely talking about me because I didn't know that this
was even a thing.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
And the sad thing is I was in college in
ninety five, so I was from New York, so I
just had the East Coast music.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
So I just learned about really South music. Going to college.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I had, you know, roommates from Memphis, roommates from Mississippi,
roommates from Atlanta, so they brought that style of music
down there.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
But like I said, this ain't my fing. You was
listening to what was that? You said? Ninety five ninety five?
She was jerial of damaging. Know what that person nods?
What's that?

Speaker 10 (26:49):
That was? It?

Speaker 2 (26:50):
NAS was out by then.

Speaker 10 (26:51):
It was whole Biggie big.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
To come out to ninety six, but whole did the
Hawaiian Sophie that was out. He was in Hawaiians logan.
It was freestyling. Yeah, it was big Daddy came. It
was jaw the damage of a good year. That was
definitely that was a great yes. I was.

Speaker 20 (27:08):
Well, uh, they also too had a conversation about, like
right now, the reason why people even are having conversations
about crunk music.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
The youth basically is what brings it in.

Speaker 20 (27:18):
And they gave credit to Waka Flaka, and they said
that for a lot of the generation, US kids maybe
who weren't outside, we wouldn't even really understand or understand
the feeling of crunk.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
If it wasn't for Waka Flaka.

Speaker 20 (27:29):
I'm sure that back in for then us to like
filter into like the Little John's and the Three Sixes
because we're a younger generation.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Flock crime mob, whether y'all realize it or not play
that's right, Yeah, scrap and no problem.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Trailvill To, Oh yeah, yes, was after them though, yeah
he was, he was.

Speaker 20 (27:49):
But what what they were saying, what DJ Paul and
John was saying, is that because we are there's a
younger generation who didn't attach to their original songs when
you hear because they said, crunk is a feeling, it's
not just music. When you hear the feeling of a
walk of Flakka and then takes you down to rap
the hole of the Little John's in the Three Sixes
one crusher, So they gave him credit for that as
well too, So I'm glad they cleared it up. They

(28:10):
agreed on some things, and hopefully Memphis will understand that, uh,
little John didn't mean no harm.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
And also too, man, you got to understand we old man,
so you know the time everything's a blur.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
You know, he's throwing numbers out there.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
But I did say that three six was the father
of krunk. I say that little John was became the
faith of it. Six were the fathers of it.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
But think about how much.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Like he had to sit in the seat on the
spot and like recollect all of those years like it was,
you know, it was most likely that he got something,
you know, a little twisted it well.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
But it's a conversation that's been happening for a long time.
Who created that crump music.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
And I think they were they settled on some things.

Speaker 20 (28:48):
As we wrap up, let's just say, uh, let's end
with DJ Paul because he is basically summarizing it and
it ends here and it should be all good after this.

Speaker 19 (28:55):
But it's not even about the word krunk. Lif Its
is not claiming that we were the first people to
use krump.

Speaker 10 (29:02):
We never used that.

Speaker 19 (29:04):
The the overall what the conversation was about is the
style of music, the direction of music, like hit them
mother h do this?

Speaker 10 (29:14):
Do that?

Speaker 7 (29:15):
That?

Speaker 19 (29:16):
The music that hypnotized minds and made you destroy some
That's what three six Mafia came up with.

Speaker 10 (29:25):
Can we agree on that?

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I give you that those eight ways and those chants
there the club.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
I think every city got got that, like got that
other city that they in codes with, like just like Yo.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
We stated this because DC, they're always.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Trying to say, oh, with Baltimore, oh we started wearing
Nike boots first. No, you're started wearing whit knikey boos first,
because don'tbody want to do that?

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
They always used to say that you didn't know.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
But one of their originators of that that fight music
too is Onyx.

Speaker 16 (29:55):
Man shut up, mana.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Y'all came again, we got it right.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
And came out in eighty Yes, Onyx Slam you know
what you know the Slam eighty eight, Yes, Slam in
eighty eight.

Speaker 10 (30:15):
I'm sorry not even that's a big gap.

Speaker 16 (30:18):
Man Slam was.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Before was Blackham. The group was.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Created eighty eight, but Slam came out in ninety three,
and that was fighting with that music. I did say
it was a crummy, but we're talking about crunk Slam
was not a crunk.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Record that any up to.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
We gotta go. We gotta go.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
Fighting music for the fighting music exactly.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Think the d MX, Oh my god, make you want
to kills.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
So yeah, you know, next time you can't stand and
not be in a conversation.

Speaker 18 (30:49):
We got him.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
What I'm saying, they gotta put that stems and everything.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
They tell me, yes, yes, this is up there all
right for the hour.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Up next we got front page news and then Miguel
will be joining us side, So don't move.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
It's the breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Good morning morning everybody. It's dj NV, just hilarious, Charlamagne
the gud. We are the breakfast Club. Let's get in
some front page news. Now, let's start off with some
quick sports. Last night NFL Monday Night Football, the Beards
beat the Commander's twenty five twenty four. The Falcons beat
the Bills twenty four to fourteen. Major League Baseball, it's
the playoffs right now. The Dodgers beat the Brewers to one.

(31:26):
They lead the series one nothing, and the Mariners beat
the Blue Jays ten three day lead that series to zero.

Speaker 8 (31:32):
What's up MEMI, good morning, Envy, Jess Charlamage, how y'all doing, Hey, good,
good morning. All right, So we start this hour in Washington,
where the Senate returns to work today after that federal
holiday yesterday. Now, lawmakers are set to hold an evening
vote on a bill to fund the government, but so
far there's little sign of progress. As a shutdown is

(31:53):
now entering its fourteenth day. The Senate Republicans are hoping
to win over more Democrats after seven failed votes, and
Speaker Mike Johnson he is now warning that the shutdown
could last even longer unless Democrats change course.

Speaker 7 (32:06):
Let's listen to that.

Speaker 23 (32:07):
We're barreling toward one of the longest shutdowns in American
history unless Democrats drop their partisan demands and pass to clean,
no strings attached budget to reopen the government and pay
our federal workers. This marks the third week that Democrats
have blocked paychecks to our troops. They blocked pay for
two point two million federal workers, and they held critical

(32:28):
services that the American people rely.

Speaker 10 (32:30):
Upon in limbo.

Speaker 8 (32:31):
Well, Democrats, they say they are remaining firm they won't
back any deal unless it includes an extension of the
expiring health insurance tax credits under the Affordable Care Act
that those subsidies help millions of Americans afford health coverage.
They are set to expire at the end of the year.
So far, only three Democrats have broken ranks to vote
with Republicans GOP leaders.

Speaker 7 (32:52):
They need five more to pass the bill.

Speaker 8 (32:54):
And while that debate continues to play out, the impact
of the shutdown is still growing. Smithsonian Museums, national parks,
and other federal landmarks are now closed to visitors. We've
been talking about this. Thousands of federal workers have been
laid off or told to report to work without pay.
And airports they're facing longer lines. And you were just
in the airport. How was your your in and out

(33:16):
with TSA and all of that, because we've been talking
about the flight delays and the shortages and on what
did that look like?

Speaker 2 (33:22):
It wasn't difficult at all for me. But I do
have clear and pre checks, so I got right through.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
I will say, when you come from other countries, like
I said, I flew back from China, it was a
lot easier. Like they have a lot of their facial
recognition stuff, so you're not standing in line as long
as like you move. They move people through that airport
in China so fast, but here it's a lot more difficult.

Speaker 10 (33:40):
You sitting down.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
They told me to you to like it's a lot longer.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
But I would say internationally, when I hit some of
these international airports, they're so advanced with technology makes it
so much easier.

Speaker 8 (33:51):
Well, we'll continue to watch that because, as we've been saying,
a lot of these programs depend on the federal funding,
including small business loans, food inspections, housing assistance.

Speaker 7 (34:00):
A lot of places are also filling the squeeze.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
It's funny to listen to Democrats and Republicans point the
finger at you know whose fault this is, because the
reality is nobody cares because folks know that it takes
by parties in agreement to reopen the US government. All
they know is that they're not getting paid and it's
the government's fault. And when they think government, they think
Democrat and Republicans. So there is no political win put
either party in this situation. As long as the government

(34:25):
is closed and people not getting they pay checks. They
pissed off at all.

Speaker 8 (34:27):
Of y'all, everybody on both sides absolutely at switching gears
really quick if you are looking for seasonal work. Amazon
says it is hiring two hundred and fifty work two
hundred and fifty thousand workers this holiday season to handle
what it expects to be a surge in online shopping
from now through December. It's the thirty year in a
row that the company has hired at least a quarter

(34:49):
of a million seasonal employees a job it pays. It
starts at nineteen dollars an hour, while regular Amazon workers
make about twenty three dollars an hour with benefit. And
the MOVI stands out this year because most retailers are
cutting back on seasonal hiring, the analysts expect fewer than
five hundred thousand jobs to be added for the holidays.

(35:09):
That's the lowest level it's been since two thousand and nine.
They say it comes as higher costs, tariffs, and more
machines doing the work that people used to do. And
so meanwhile, some of those other major retailers that we
expect that those holiday jobs from I'm talking Target, Macy's, ups, Walmart,
they haven't released they're hiring numbers yet. Instead, they're offering

(35:30):
current employees more hours or waiting until closer to the
holidays to announce what kind of help that they will need,
but maybe some good news for some of those furloughed
or laid off workers to look.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Into right here, so.

Speaker 7 (35:44):
We will continue to watch that. All right, y'all. Well,
that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown.

Speaker 8 (35:50):
Follow me at Mimi Brown TV for more stories, follow
the Black Information Network, download the free iHeartRadio app, or
visit binnews dot com.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Thank you all right Now, when we come back, Miguel
R and B singer Miguel will be joining us. He
has a new album, Chaos that comes out this next week,
next Friday, so we'll talk to him in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 10 (36:09):
Good Morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Morning.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Everybody is DJ n V, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the God.
We are the Breakfast Club Lawn, the Roses here as well.
We got a special guest in the building.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Migill's here, ladies.

Speaker 10 (36:25):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
What's up?

Speaker 11 (36:25):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'm good, I'm good. How you guys doing? Bless black
and holly face? That's right, blessed and black and highly favored,
is right. I'm just happy you putting out music. Man
be like, and it's funny.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
We were literally having a conversation on the radio recently,
like in the last week or two about what's up
with Miguel.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
I think we talked about Miguel too. Million Thomas was
here probably yeah, because you got.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Timeless records, man, Like, you know, even though we've been
waiting for like, it's still things that we can go
back and listen to and it's forever a classic.

Speaker 24 (36:54):
Yeah, so thank you for saying that. Yeah, I mean
I've been feeling the same way though. It's time. It's
been time, so I'm excited to be back out. We
got we have a few records already out and the
album's out October twenty third, so you know, I'm just
kind of getting it.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
We're doing the thing.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
The name of the album is called Chaos.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yes, Yes, what's about that?

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Break that down a little bit, man.

Speaker 24 (37:14):
I feel it's everywhere, you know, just look out and
you know, pull up your phone. I feel like it's
probably the best word for the times that we live in.
And and so you know, I made an album about
how that's been a big part of my growth and
I think it's an inflection point, you know, I think overall,

(37:35):
when we go through crazy and trying times, it's an
opportunity for us to really take that in to make it,
you know, clarifying.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
And so that's what this album really is.

Speaker 24 (37:45):
I think it's my most like relatable album abouly where
were You? Also my most angry and horny album?

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Oh how angry horny?

Speaker 20 (37:54):
Even the production of it gives it's like anger, but
then there's like eclectic like come over here vibe, Like, yeah,
it's a lot of it.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
I think you're about to access where were you? Like, yeah,
where were you mentally and emotionally in creating the album?

Speaker 16 (38:07):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Everywhere? It spans eight years.

Speaker 24 (38:11):
You know, it's been eight years since I put out
my last album, Warren Leisure, And you know, we've been
through you know, pandemic, We've been through everything. I mean
apparently we we we we made it through the rapture.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Apparently. I'm like, yeah, we're supposed to see aliens in
a couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 24 (38:28):
It's it's it's everything everywhere, all at once, at all times.
And so the head Space has been pretty pretty much
reflective of that. It's like where I feel we're doing
the best we can. It's a lot of pressure right now,
and that's what really created the album.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
I think, by the way, eight years isn't a long
time because there's certain artists, you know, you, Jill Scott,
Eric Abadun, I don't need you all to put out
records every year. I put records when the spirit moves ballid.
Yeah that's why. Yeah, yeah, And you know you've always
been proud of your Mexican roots, but it seems like
you're leaning into the more deeply.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Now. What inspired that shift?

Speaker 10 (39:08):
Man?

Speaker 24 (39:08):
That's a that's digging and really getting to I really
didn't want to do music anymore. I was getting to
a place where I was like and the reason why
is which I feel like you know in your books
and man, congratulations bro, because the last time I was
you know, it was before you publish your first book.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
So congratulations.

Speaker 25 (39:30):
Man.

Speaker 24 (39:30):
Maybe it's an incredible feat that's like up there with
like running a marathon. It's like, I'm probably never going
to run a marathon or write a book, but you know, yeah, yeah,
why didn't you.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Want to do music?

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Why did you almost walk away from it?

Speaker 19 (39:44):
Uh?

Speaker 24 (39:45):
My priority, the way I was prioritizing, how it affected
my my sense of myself. You know, I think I
entered in to my career as a musician, as an
artist with the idea of becoming someone that was on
the main stage and on the you know, TV screen
and doing the getting the record. And we've been very blessed,

(40:10):
very blessed to have an audience who've given us that platform.
You know, I have an amazing audience and I love
them deeply, and they've really made my music successful. And
I think that can take priority of, you know, and
really rents the real purpose of creating from one's own motivation,

(40:33):
and it can kind of like cannibalize the whole experience
because then you start to not expect but you're aiming for. Well,
if the record didn't do as good as this one,
and then it kind of robs the value. And I
need to take some time to figure out what was
going to be my motivation moving forward, you know, to

(40:54):
be fair, and I never stopped making music, but I
think the act of putting music out, especially with the
industry changing, I mean, you've seen the industry change. We've
gone through revolutions of new ways of putting out records.
I know you guys are seeing it because you're seeing
the artists and you're seeing how it all moves. It

(41:14):
was a very different game when I came in, you know,
and it was you had CDs. Yes, we had seen
it was real physical. I mean, we CDs are coming
back now, it's crazy. But it was a very different game.
And I think learning, relearning, refinding my my love and

(41:35):
also doing some real hard work on me figuring out
where I'm at, Like let me just check in. I
forgot that I've been on a run for some time.
I didn't take time.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
So was leaning into your heritage part of that though it.

Speaker 24 (41:50):
Became it became a natural part of it because trying
to understand, you know, where my my decisions, my decision
making were becoming habitual and not really like I thought.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
You know, I wasn't really thinking things through. It was
like knee jerk reactions to things.

Speaker 24 (42:04):
And just looking at where I was and where I
wanted to be in the discrepancy between that, you know,
I had to you know now everybody, which is a
great thing. It's like, you know, going and doing therapy
and meditation and on all of my self work and
shadow work and whatnot. I think it just naturally pushed
me into really getting to know and be appreciative. Not

(42:27):
that I was never I was always super And you
know this, I've always said I'm black in Mexican. I'm
Mexican black, you know, always proud of it, but really
like having a like sense of it. And the things
that I looked back and thought were kind of I

(42:47):
don't want to say, I look at them so much
more as blessings than as challenges. I always felt that
growing up my heritage it was a challenge. I'm like, man,
why am I always having to prove myself? Like why
do I'm with these people? I feel like I got
to prove it I'm this Black, or I'm with these people.

(43:09):
I got to prove it I'm this Mexican. And over
these eight years, I think taking that time has really
given me a sense of pride. And I look back
and I'm like, man, I'm so proud that it's given
me a unique perspective and it's given me a unique positioning.
And also how I am with people and who I
am with people is a reflection of the cultures that

(43:29):
I've been blessed to take me and you know, throw
their arms around me, and they have that so naturally,
I think with that, I've explored more of my songwriting.
It's made its way into my songwriting. It certainly made
its way into me. And also as you become a parent.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
You know, congratulate, thanks so much.

Speaker 24 (43:49):
Yeah, yeah, you become a parent and you really start
to look at the things that were great about your child,
the things you love about it, and things that are
worth passing on, as well as the things that you
you definitely do not want to pass on.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
So so you know, leaning leaning in uh.

Speaker 24 (44:06):
And in all these different ways and all the cultural
just the beautiful cultural things that I that I've been
blessed with.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
It was a very natural thing.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
And slow it down.

Speaker 5 (44:14):
So you say, pray I can make peace with the
past because tomorrow comes way too fast.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
You guys, really listen to thank you so much. That's right.

Speaker 10 (44:25):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
By the way, she married to a Mexican m and everything.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
You know, all that right, So I wanted you to
like unpeck that.

Speaker 24 (44:42):
You know what I mean, Yeah, pray I could make
peace with the past because tomorrow comes way too fast.
It's that, I mean, it's hindsight. Everything is so much clear,
and I mean the it's That's exactly what it feels like.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
Even when you were saying, like people that you grew
up with, if it's taking advantage of you and things
like that, like I.

Speaker 24 (45:02):
Don't want to that sounds so crazy because that'll be
a SoundBite after this, But you know, it's like I
just thought about it as like, oh, I can definitely.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
See people be like they could have got me, and
be like see. But but it's you look at things with.

Speaker 24 (45:18):
So much more clarity and maybe how how not again
not knowing how I wanted to feel, and just going
with things and and again awareness being being just like
in it and being present and grateful having so much.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I've always been a grateful person.

Speaker 24 (45:40):
But again, when you do this for and you start
to see like people react to it, and then it's like, oh,
this is what happens when that happens and you start
to look at it, and it's not expectation per se,
but it's that you're like wanting it secretly, you know,
you're like it's your call. You're like, nah, I really
want the success. I really want this to happen, and
you put this pressure on it and it becomes a

(46:02):
big cycle of things and by a time you get
to the other side, you spend so much time wanting
and expecting and not looking at the greatness in the
midst of it and feeling the greatness and just being
you know, in the midst of it and loving those
moments and in that feeling you look back and it's

(46:23):
already over. You know, you're so focused on well, what's
going to happen and being anxious about it and hoping.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Man, yeah, be with the feeling, man, stay stay in
that mode.

Speaker 20 (46:33):
Talking a little bit about you know, the past, and
you mentioned like the grieving and different things on always
time you say maybe this time love means letting go.
You talk about private truths and public roles and you
thought there will always be time to fight for love.
The you know an honest and like first listen, I
was like, is this about his past relationship and wanting
to fight for that?

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yes?

Speaker 24 (46:55):
Absolutely, the album is it's about my It's about my
I mean I've had I've been very it's very public
that I was married and we were together. Yea, yeah,
it was a bit. It was a big part of
my experience as a human being this time around, you know,
that was a massive part.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
I was with when I was nineteen. You know what
I'm saying, it was it was a long time. And
in the midst of that, I was.

Speaker 24 (47:25):
Being a musician and becoming a musician and finding my
audience and all of that.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
And there's a lot of learning. There's a lot of learning.
Who were we.

Speaker 24 (47:35):
All when we were nineteen year twelve? Look, I'm just
hitting my I'm feeling like, Okay, I know exactly who
I am, and look I don't. I'm still learning. But
I know my values. That's the part. That's what I
meant to say earlier. Values don't change.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
You know what I mean? Your values that's your core.

Speaker 24 (47:55):
But everything else and your style whatever, how you your values,
your core values. Those are the things that I think
I don't need to necessarily discover my values. I think
where I'm at is that I'm honing them. I'm sure
I'm only strengthening them. I'm only like doubling down on them.
But always time that song was written because I was

(48:16):
I was uncovering a lot of my values in real time.
And one of those things that I've always been is
the word loyal is crazy because loyalty I saw my
grandparents stay together. Are my entire life. You know, they
were loyal to the family, but loyalty like were they happy?

Speaker 1 (48:42):
You know?

Speaker 2 (48:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 24 (48:44):
And that's that's that's a crazy one. And that song
is about kind of like coming to terms with you know,
I can't even be the right person for you.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I can't. I can't be it.

Speaker 24 (48:54):
And like discovering that in real time is crazy work
when you're like, damn, I thought the whole thing was like,
I'm supposed to fight it out and we're supposed to
do it. And even when it's and at some point
you when you stop and you go, you know what
the best thing I can do is actually let it go.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
That's not what the marriage.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
But I'll see that's not what that's not what my
grandparents did, right, all of that Psychologically, I'm.

Speaker 24 (49:18):
Sure it does it it's I think that's that's where
generate our generations now are looking at the construct of
marriage with a very through a very different lens, and
also looking at the history, the historical evolution of what
that means, what that means and what it was before
it was about the ring and about the you know

(49:39):
what I mean, and how that's like it's sort of
it's taken away. And again I'm not saying anything about
marriage or I think it's a beautiful thing. I was
so happy to be married when I was whether or
not I was able to be true to it, you know,
I think it's a it's such a beautiful idea.

Speaker 9 (50:00):
Uh.

Speaker 24 (50:00):
I think the word and the symbolism sometimes take away
the purpose or what it's supposed to be really representative of.
You know, It's like, man, it's supposed to be that
there's a relationship that's unshakable and you guys are really.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Going to be partners in the whole shit.

Speaker 24 (50:18):
I don't know what happens, but most people I talked
to her marriage that's it turns into something else. The
partnership somehow is like it's the symbolism takes precedence over
the actual core thing of what it's supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
I don't know the degree for that. You know, break
up keep you away from the music.

Speaker 24 (50:38):
Maybe maybe not not in its in and of itself,
but I think the me underneath it and needing to
understand what what was informing my decisions is what kept
me from from doing the music. I need to go
do some work that's really at the end of at
the end of the day, I need to go figure
my shop.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
I needed to go.

Speaker 24 (50:57):
Figure it out because it wasn't working. And life is
a trip. Man, it's a trip. But always time is
one of those ones. It's a like, it's such a
like that's a hard accepting but true, very honest.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
It's all.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
Yeah, people always forget yo, you are rock stars, superstars,
celebrity and all that, but you're still a real person,
you know, So I think.

Speaker 24 (51:21):
We're all rock stars superstar. Like, listen, this is every
day you guys are with Everyone is a rock star. Everybody,
everyone at their core can be.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
That like, you know, everyone.

Speaker 24 (51:34):
That's the thing I was talking about humility before, because
we get this a lot. That's like, oh, be humble
or I always get man, you're so humble, you know,
as opposed to you know, oh, like rock star.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
But everybody is though. Everyone is has greatness, everyone has purpose. Everyone.

Speaker 24 (51:55):
That's what I am. I'm not humble. I just don't
think I'm greater than anyone else. I just think that
I believe that I have something that's important to do
and that everyone has something important to do. And I
treat everyone like, no, you're here and you have something
here to do and there's a purpose.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Yeah, because I always look at the word humble as
to being less than what you actually really are exactly.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Yeah, So I like how you just put that, You.

Speaker 24 (52:22):
Know, I'm trying hopefully you get what I'm saying. And
I'm like, man, look they use humble sometimes, like yo,
keep Yeah, I'm like, no, no, our place is greatness.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Man.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Were you at all nervous though in choosing such to
recreate such a bold moment of because this is.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
The artwork, right of Yeah?

Speaker 20 (52:39):
Yeah, yeah, so creating that moment from that security camera
where he's shooting gun, right, And the reason I mentioned
or ask you, we're you're nervous about that is because
it's about not doing concerts here because he wants to
protect his people from ice. Right, super Bowl happens now.
Politically he is the conversation and they're coming for him. Right,
How do you where do you kind of lay in
all of that? How you choose what you're gonna be

(53:01):
radical against?

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Right now?

Speaker 24 (53:02):
I think it's just the same thing when you see,
you know, shows get canceled. I mean Kimmel got canceled
for a moment. Yeah, but that was for a moment,
and I bet you watch what happens at the Super Bowl.
Watch how many people watch the viewership go crazy break
it's gonna break records. And then I bet you they
never question if they're gonna bring a Latino on that stage.
They'll never question it, you know why, because it's touching

(53:24):
their dollars. And we saw that with Kimmel the moment
they got backlash and their viewership went down. Oh no,
it was like, bring them back. We don't have to
figure this one out, you know what I mean. And
so at the core of the chorus, it is about
building your audience, which is why my album is what
it is. But I didn't make another record that primarily
focuses on romance and that dynamic of my life from

(53:47):
my perspective and love. And there'll be other records that
I make that. I'm sure I'll make songs like that
and that sound feel good and whatnot. But right now,
what it was, what this is about, is me tapping
into my my audience and wanting to identify who's really
my audience. It's a proof, it's a case in point,
you know. It's like I'm wanting to double down that

(54:09):
it's better to identify who's really there for you to
listen and then build upon that so then you have leverage.
And as we know many times, we've heard this story
a million times said artists walked into the record label
and they want they want the deal, they want the
whole thing that they're selling, but they don't have any leverage.
You're like, look, when you walk in with leverage, it's

(54:30):
a whole different game. And the more leverage we have,
that's the other part is like drawing that parallel as
well to looking at the numbers that we have.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
We have leverage.

Speaker 24 (54:40):
The people who are running government are the numbers are
so much smaller, you know, the numbers are. It just
doesn't so looking at all of these parallels and going like,
we're at an inflection point where we can use these
chaotic times and the uncertainty to our advantage to really
lock in and organize on what we believe in, whatever
it is.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Because they are I'm glad you did New Martyrs because
the rappers ain't doing it.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
I've been waiting for a rappers tap into the moment
and just talk about what's going on, and it just
don't feel like they doing it.

Speaker 24 (55:08):
Yeah, And I'm not saying I have the answers or anything.
It's definitely it's new Martyrs. Isn't like we should go
do this and it's not like that. It's just saying
I'm I'm feeling like we are all at that point
where it's like I gotta do I gotta do something
like and and it's only going to get you know,
it's only going to feel more and more like that
as we go if we don't now.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Chaos is coming out on October twenty third, that's also
your born day.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
October Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Why do you want to do
it on your beta?

Speaker 24 (55:37):
I think I wanted to give myself the permission to
move forward, you know, on my birthday, and like I said,
my next ten I'm looking at my next ten years.
The album is again symbolic of like the conversation that
I want to have with my audience being deeper and
more about the human being, not just about my ability,

(55:58):
you know, but about who I am.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
I believe in and lock in with my audience like that, and.

Speaker 24 (56:02):
Then to build this this company that's about supporting black
and brown and Latin artists talent across the board, whether
it's film, TV or music, literature, all of those, all
of those leftis center ones who deserve development the way
that we need it now, the way art needs it
now that we're not getting and putting capital behind that

(56:24):
as well to support that because we need that too.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
So it's like a blog, Yeah, you upload the different.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Year kind of kind of reminds us of where we
came from.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Definitely does.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Yeah, So this is my last question. How do you
measure the success now? Is it impact? Is it artistry
or is it peace impact? Impact?

Speaker 24 (56:44):
For sure, I don't think that any endeavor is peaceful,
you know, any endeavor with real objective, real especially if
you're trying to change something, be it for yourself or
for others. It's not going to be a peaceful journey.
It's just going to come with unforeseen it's gonna come
with challenges, and it's going to come with a lot
of pushback, especially if it's going against the status quo.

(57:07):
And that's not a peaceful experience. But again, the values part,
you know that being at the core of things and
this is something that's going to affect someone in a
positive way.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
And I could do that for the rest of my life.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
And one last question for you, not about no relationships? Promise?

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Is it true that I'm happy? Someone was asking I
was like, who's it gonna be?

Speaker 20 (57:32):
I was reposting all on my space, so I had
to ask some questions. But originally was that a demo
for Usher? Is that a true story?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (57:40):
Well I wrote the song and I didn't write it
as a demo, say, but we submitted it as a
demo for Usher.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Usher was looking at the time. I'm not sure which
album I feel like it was.

Speaker 24 (57:53):
It might have been Confessions, it might have been which
I can't hear sure thing onions. Confession is such a
perfect album as it is very different, very different album.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
But yeah, sure thing was submitted. Yeah, well listen, Miguel,
were glad you back? Brother?

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Is very very dope, very very dope project. I can't
wait for the world the experience it mak you.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
But you wanted to play right now? Play New Martyrs?
Play New Martyrs. We gotta bang that?

Speaker 10 (58:18):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Yeah, it's Miguel, It's the breakfast Club. Good mor guys.
But let's get to the late man. Merry Christmas becoming
a street He ain't never come back out anyway. She
gets them from somebody that knows the detail.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
She'd be having the latest on you, the.

Speaker 10 (58:37):
Latest with Lauren La Rosa.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Sometimes you have sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have
a little bit of everything.

Speaker 10 (58:42):
It's the latest on the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 20 (58:46):
Tyler Perry is fighting back against the lawsuits. So you
guys remember the guy Dixon who was working for him. Dixon, yes,
the white man, the actor yep, who accused Tyler Perry
of such harassment, sexual battery, sexual assault, intentional infliction of
emotional distress, retaliation, and a whole bunch of other things
and said that he needs two hundred and sixty million

(59:08):
dollars in damages from Tyler Perry. Right, So, Tyler Perry's
attorneys have filed a response to him, and they are
calling this law to of course false, because they already
came out and said that. But they're also saying that
Dixon is distorting the truth and tried and trying to
turn mister Perry's acts of a platonic friendship into something
sinister when it was nothing but professional mentorship. Now they

(59:31):
also say that mister Perry of course never assaulted Dixon
or committed any sexual battery.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
He did not offer Dixon pay raises.

Speaker 20 (59:41):
He also says that the whole you know how he
said that like his storyline and the pilot and like
the scripts and all the things, storylines were changed, and
that Tyler Perry offered to take his pilot somewhere. They
said that that never happens, and that this is all
just a response to the fact that that never happens,
and they say that he needs help. They say he
needs help and he needs to go find it, but

(01:00:02):
he is not going to find it in this court.
They also note that the lawsuit was filed in California
when it should have been filed in Georgia. So they're
just calling BS. Filed some documents to make sure they
call BS on this. So there's an update there. Yes, Now,
in other back and forth news, did y'all know that
Howard Stern and Oprah were beefing friends?

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
I don't know what are they beefing about? So this
started year faithy Rich like, was it a beef about?

Speaker 20 (01:00:26):
They're beefing about being filthy rich and be look at
you while I was helping me with the leading. Yes,
So this happened back in This started back in November
of twenty twenty two, Howard Stern criticized Oprah for flaunting
her wealth and people were really upset about it. We
have the original comments to take a listen to Howard
Stern's original comments on Oprah.

Speaker 25 (01:00:43):
Oprah's not embarrassed by her wealth at all. She loves
showing it off on Instagram. It's mind blowing you when
you follow her on Instagram. You see her estates, her gardens,
the people who will service her, you know, serve she's
not a car. Well, well, she kind of is. She
got servants and like people cooking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
It's wild. She knows how to be rich. She does it.

Speaker 25 (01:01:06):
She kind of likes to show it off, which is
something I'm not comfortable with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Oprahs just showing you her life. She's not showing off.

Speaker 25 (01:01:14):
Well, you gotta be a little self aware and know
that there are people struggling out there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Robin, you got to I agree with Robin, but I
can see how it's coming from as well. But I mean,
at the end of the day, Oprah can only live
her life.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
It's her life.

Speaker 16 (01:01:27):
I can't show you something I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's bs when people say that
things like that because she's showing her life right for
some day. Look at it as Oh, I'm gonna hate
on them, but for something that's inspiration. Oprah filter empire
like Oprah works hard, Like Oprah continues to work hard.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
She came from nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
She came from the dirt, like you know, her story
and the fact that she's there and she's so many
and she so she inspires so many people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
She's not doing it for that reason. She's doing it
just because this is my life. I'm six years old
and this is.

Speaker 16 (01:01:54):
How I live.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
She'd be like in the back of her house, just
like Frolicky, and it's like she's rich. Is she supposed
to do?

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Everybody asks their wage.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
If I decided to do a TikTok for my apartment
because I live in an apartment. If I decided to
do a TikTok for my twenty thousand foot square foot mansion,
our guests out that's where I live.

Speaker 10 (01:02:12):
But doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Howid Stern talking about the fact that he only works
for like three days a week and he flies to
the Hampton's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
And I've never heard him say that this is something
we know.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Wait, go ahead, you're about to say something. Just no
I was, Yeah, I was just saying, like it seemed
like they want her to live like Sophia, like she's
still in the color purple. Well, talking about like what
she didn't do she want? Well, Howard Stern uncomfortable with it? Okay,
who the hell are you to be uncomfortable with how

(01:02:42):
she lived her life?

Speaker 20 (01:02:42):
And I think that's why a lot of people are
upset when he made these original comments, because it's Oprah
and you know all the things right. But the reason
why this came back up is because recently Howard Stern
sat down with Andy Cohen, who has a show on
Serious ExM as well, and he says that he don't
have no beef anymore. Let's take a listen to Howard
Stern on the beef over.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
I am fascionated by Oprah.

Speaker 12 (01:03:03):
It seems like Oprah might be the only kind of
Howard Stern foe.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
I follow Oprah. I enjoy watching Oprah. You've spoken to
her never.

Speaker 26 (01:03:17):
I think she's I know Gail King very well, yes,
And I think at one point she suggested, oh, we
should get together with Oprah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
She said, you better check with Oprah.

Speaker 26 (01:03:24):
You better don't surprise her with me, right, No, I
am fascinated by Oprah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I'm an Oprah follower. Somebody on the chat said the
real estate Who is that? John? What did I say?
Just Freezy Ape says Oprah couldn't live modest if she tried. No,
she couldn't.

Speaker 20 (01:03:38):
Like plus billion was literally her even when she's in
her kitchen on her Instagram, like during the holiday sometimes
you know she has like Oprah's favorite things and they
do an old magazine or they well performerly old magazine.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
But when she's in her kitchen just talking through things
her kitchen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Is just like, yes, Wow, it's Oprah. Yeah, what a
couple billion.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
By the way, Oprah is very I mean, she's a
very humble person. Just that's that's her lifestyle. That's how
she lives. Everybody acts their wage. You can't be mad
at people for acting they wage.

Speaker 20 (01:04:06):
Yeah, according to ABC, three billion dollars networth, while number
four on the list according to Fourth So yeah, Oprah's
really really rich.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
She made a lot of multi millionaires as well. I
don't well first of all, and she gives away a
lot of money too. So it's like when you talk
about when you talk about somebody like her, and you
talk about you know how much she because she's not
stunting once again, she's just living her life between just
living your life and stunting. Okay, but she's also you know,
put a lot of people in position and giving away
a lot of money.

Speaker 20 (01:04:35):
Oprah with the with the arms spread would be crazy though,
Like I wouldn't be mad if Oprah did a money spread.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
That's stupid, do it?

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
I was gonna say.

Speaker 20 (01:04:45):
Though, I don't know what it is about Oprah, but
when people try to take shots at her, it makes
me uncomfortable. I just maybe it's because she's older, maybe
it's because she's Oprah, but like people try to come
for her a lot. Yeah, And I don't know why
that makes me uncomfortable, but it shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Why not somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
It makes me uncomfortable. I feel like she's just think
Oprah should.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Be out limits.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
What's the most thing. What's the thing that you heard
that made you feel uncomfortable?

Speaker 20 (01:05:11):
When they were talking about how she doesn't like black men,
and you remember that whole conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 10 (01:05:17):
I don't remember that either.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
But she was supposed to be involved in that documentary.
But j'all know, Lauren is very in. Okay, maybe that's it.
I didn't know. I'm too far into people's business.

Speaker 20 (01:05:25):
But when that whole documentary was supposed to come out
about Russell Simmons, and she was involved in the beginning,
but then back the way, people were fifty made post
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
You remembering Black the person she's allegedly I'm just telling.

Speaker 20 (01:05:37):
The conversation that happened around that time. And I was like, dang,
this is Oprah though, like Oprah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Got wine bottles older than you. Okay, Oprah has very
tough skin. I understand what you're saying. But Oprah's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Yeahra shouldn't make you uncomfortable.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
All right, Okay, but that's I'm glad her and Howard
Sertning a cool.

Speaker 7 (01:05:58):
Ish it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Make you uncomfortable? No, I don't you yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
It's Oprah. It's Oprah. She's older.

Speaker 20 (01:06:10):
Like you just supposed to leave old people out of
the beef in the conte with me, Stern, don't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
Count look like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
You said you care about Oprah more than yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
Oprah like floats like Oprah is I.

Speaker 20 (01:06:26):
Don't care about I don't care about me because I
mean I care about me, but I don't care when
people take shots at me, because it'd be noiseless, it'd
be baseless with Oprah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
It don't even know Oprah, So what she's mother? Okay,
it's Oprah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
You got a mama.

Speaker 10 (01:06:39):
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
And and I feel the same way.

Speaker 20 (01:06:40):
About any elder in my actual life too, like you
should leave older people out of the drunks, like don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Speak respect with people. I respect that you get elder, Okay,
I get.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
I always don't understand elders.

Speaker 16 (01:06:57):
Talking through.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Lauren speaking of eldest. He eighty six and he's from
the Bronx. And did y'all know his real name is
Ralph Ralph lift Ships, Ralph lift Ships.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
And he changed it when he was sixteen because he
was getting teased because he didn't like it and it
didn't sound marketable enough.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
His name is Ralph lift Ships.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
And he was like, I'm that last name makes me uncomfortable.
The way you say his last name makes me. But
it's only because we're on the uncomfortable. That's in trouble
because that's what it is. I don't know. Let me
change that, let me see it, because you know, you
know they can change wiki.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
No, that's AI. Sometimes the real name is I s
H I t Z.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
Yes, yeah, well lift ships that's what it is. But
he changed it because he was getting bullied.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
That's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
So but he eighty six every birthday?

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
All right, Well, who do you give me a donkey too? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
For after the hour, we need a young lady named
Keona Hampton to come to the front of the congregation.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
We'd like to have a word with her. I'm telling y'all,
let's just all mind off.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Business is holiday season, man, Okay, especially when it comes
to the Whyian.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I didn't doubt you, but that's his real name. That
wasn't the real name. I did not to pronounce the
way she was pronounced. Okay, don't get the days up
next to the breakfast logo morning.

Speaker 11 (01:08:13):
I wanted to know how you came up with them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Don't be a name tell us because your meaning your
days a bunch of donkeys.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
That is why, Charlemagne, you live a life where wete
are tongue based off cool may a thing he never
was saying.

Speaker 10 (01:08:35):
On the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
I'm the word of CHARLEMAGNEA god. You a donkey, oh man, Charlamagne,
you're giving donkey the day to who? Now?

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Well, Buster rhymes don't get a day for Tuesday, October
fourteenth goes to twenty two year old Keana Hampton, who
is currently in the Dallas County jail, and she is
right where she needed to be if you ask me. Okay,
I'm telling you, let's just all mind ob business going
into twenty twenty six. We still got a few months
left in twenty twenty five. Let's all enjoy the holiday season.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
There are too many hurt people in pain projecting that
hurt and pain onto others.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Okay, I tell y'all all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
I get on this radio and tell you every single day.
All we do when we leave the house is try
to avoid other people's crazy, and this story is an
example of another person's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Keyona Hampton, twenty two year old.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Twenty two years old, Rest in peace to Cecilia Simpson
is her name, Sending her and her family healing energy.
She's no longer with us because she was killed by
Keona Hampton. Okay, she was minding her business. Cecilia Simpson
was living her best life and she was shot and
killed by Keona Hampton following an argument that started over

(01:09:53):
the suspect not saying thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
I can't make this kind of stuff up. Let's go
to fox Fort, Dallas for the report. Place.

Speaker 17 (01:10:00):
Well, it started as a simple act of kindness holding
a door open for a stranger, but it ended in
heartbreak outside of a North Texas pet store. Dallas police
say Cecilia Simpson was gunned down this past Tuesday after
confronting another woman for not saying thank you. Happened to
the thirty five hundred block of West Wheatland and Southeast
Oak Cliff. That brief encounter spiraled into an argument, a

(01:10:23):
chase into the store, and ultimately a deadly shooting in
the parking lot.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Forty one years old. That's how old Cecilia.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Cecilia Simpson was, forty one years old, taken out by
a twenty two year old simply because she tried to
teach this twenty two year old proper etiquette. Okay, if
you decide to hold a door or do anything in
this era, just do it because you was raised right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Okay. If that person doesn't say thank you a show gratitude,
who cares? Okay, let him have it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Because people out here are insane, all right, folks is dealing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
With all the time mental health issues. There used to
be a time.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
When we were in school, okay, and everybody was regulated
to certain classes. But then we all got out into
the real world and everybody is mingling amongst each other.
So every day you running into people with severe mental
health issues and don't even know it. Okay, there's nothing
wrong with mind in your business. Don't try to prove
any points to a person. I'm reading this story and

(01:11:22):
all I see is escalation. At some point, a cooler
head could have prevailed and someone should have said, what
am I doing. I'm really about to fight this woman
because she didn't say thank you. I'm really about to
shoot this woman because she's telling me I should have
said thank you. Nah, man, you gotta know when to
hold them, know when to fall them, no, when to
walk away, and know when to run away from these

(01:11:43):
why ends. Okay, I'm gonna show y'all something. Do you
want to see this twenty two year old woman's muck shot?

Speaker 18 (01:11:51):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Sure, yes, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
This woman needs more than therapy. Okay, she needs an exorcism.
All right, listen. The moral of the story is mind
your own affairs, focus on yourself, and please, please please
stay away from people who haven't lived enough life to
understand the consequences of their actions. Because this young girl,
Keyona Hampton clearly did not understand the consequences of her actions.

(01:12:23):
Please give Keyona Hampton the biggest he hull horrible man,
and then the sad part of the other sad part.
There's a lot of sad layers to this story. But
another sad layer to this story is the young woman
Sicilia Simpson, was with her twenty year old daughter when

(01:12:45):
all of this happened.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Damn, and I get it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
You older, and you know the young person, you hold
the door for them. They don't say thank you. You know,
you want to teach them some medicids, some manners, but
boy not nowadays.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Damn it, man, you said y N.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
That's not a y N. That's the y B what
a young young.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
I would even say, young d devil. That's what I
was thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
All right, Well, thank you for that, donkey to day.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
All right now, when we come back, Angela Rode, Tiffany Cross,
Andrew Gilliman, Bacari Sellers will be joining us the host
of the Native Land podcast. All right, and don't forget
we are on our Breakfast Club Twitch Breakfast Club am
on Twitch, and and the chat wanted to know, how
come you want to play a game?

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
That's what they went, that's that's the question, because you
shouldn't play games with a serious situation like this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
And we already had the picture. He already showed the
picture already.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
And if I have before, we grow and evolved every day,
so leave me alone.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Chat yeah, because they're like, yeah, we they We've definitely
played on when somebody died before, So I don't know
what he's easing changed over night now now he's evolved.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
All right, you change?

Speaker 10 (01:14:00):
Are you right?

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
You came back from China a different person, don't you
know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Club Morning, everybody, It's d J n V Jesselaria, Charlamage
the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren l Rosa is here
as well, and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
They're about to fight already ready at Lara, Tippy Cross
Andrew get them and no to the show, y'all just
added the brother.

Speaker 16 (01:14:26):
Yeah, man, you know they need a ratings, so why.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
Go for someone to pull your show numbers?

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Okay, how's this going to work?

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
I can't find my show numbers.

Speaker 16 (01:14:45):
I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to be home.

Speaker 12 (01:14:47):
It's a good group of people, and right now you
need a platform like this, So I think it's a
perfect time and perfect match.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Why did you guys decide to do it together?

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
I was just getting ready to tell you I'm glad
you asked that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:56):
You know, when we started this show, I envisioned this group,
and Bakari was trying to be.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
Bougie and keep his little Spotify deal.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Wow, and so he said, prove it.

Speaker 12 (01:15:14):
Because like, my deal wasn't little. But shout out to
Bill Simmons for giving me an opportunity. But everything runs
its course he.

Speaker 4 (01:15:19):
Had for this commercial.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
The point is that we wanted him to be a
part of this and always like and I kept I
would keep coming back, right, I would keep saying you
are you ready?

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
You're ready?

Speaker 5 (01:15:29):
And it finally worked out and so I'm really really
thrilled about it, especially at this really.

Speaker 12 (01:15:33):
Difficult around me too, So I appreciate that. And it's
a family. So we've always been friends, and it's always
good to work with people who you're friends with.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Wasn't there supposed to be a variation of this at CNN?
At one point it was called the Squad.

Speaker 11 (01:15:45):
But I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:15:49):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:15:50):
I think what's frustrating is we we were the Squad
on CNN and we did segments. What was frustrating about
is there was a story that was leaked that said
they were giving us a show we ain't know nothing
about it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
Did you ever get approt?

Speaker 16 (01:16:02):
I think that was going to happen.

Speaker 12 (01:16:03):
But I do think that the chemistry was there and
people saw it on screen, so hopefully people can people
can see it now. Yeah, we woke up. It was
on page six one day, right because that's I saw
a Google alert that said macari Seller's page six.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
But I wanted to ask what everything going to landscape
of media right now, and especially Trump getting people allegedly
fired and people get their opinions. I'm saying alleged because
I want people getting fired for their opinions. Does that
stop what you guys do or cut it back or
do you go even harder.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
I don't think that we have the luxury of filtering
truth at this point.

Speaker 5 (01:16:43):
I think that to not tell the truth is more
dangerous than to uphold the lie, and so I think
what you'll get on this show is raw, unfiltered truth.
There will be some conflict, there will be some agreement,
there will be everything in between. We laugh a lot.
I think that Bakari joining will add to that. These
two I'm looking for or to this diacter because okay.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
He don't know, but they be fighting and they look like.

Speaker 14 (01:17:07):
To prove the record wrong. We are sitting next to
each other.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
In the same camera shot. Short, Yes, I don't think,
but it's the same. Guy thinks he looks like more's chestnuts.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Think that, Yeah, I mean some chestnut on Saturday. He's
toller than you, So you definitely.

Speaker 20 (01:17:27):
Arek cuter, handsome Jesus, well not honestly, like everything you're not.
His hairline is there?

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Oh god, Oh my god.

Speaker 16 (01:17:38):
Well she's waiting on this.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
He's not playing this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Shot.

Speaker 27 (01:17:54):
I want to get back to what you said because
I appreciate the point that you're making about media capitulating.
I think one thing about all of us, we all
had our own backgrounds in media in different capacities. And
one thing that people can be sure to get when
they tune in a native lampod is an unfiltered approach,
well researched facts. All of us are free, like we're not.

(01:18:17):
We don't have a boss that we have the answer
to for our opinions. We are not at the will
of the Trump administration in any capacity, and we lead
with our community. We lead with our blackness because we've
been so brutally oppressed in this country that we owe
it to the people. Well, the thousand things pulling for
your attention, we owe it to you when you listen

(01:18:39):
to Native Lampods give you our most authentic selves and
our most real takes on things at these dangerous times.

Speaker 14 (01:18:46):
Align with Tiffany the I think people get that without
even knowing they're.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
In the throes of politics and what's happening every day.

Speaker 14 (01:18:53):
The cultural connection to how you can take a bad
bunny story and related to what capitulation and bending a
knee is to big media. The fact that there a
folks who are willing to steal limited and not enough
in my opinion, who are willing to go up to
the line and some folks over the line during this
Trump era is exactly I think what's required in order

(01:19:14):
for us to get through this President and his administration
are shown when met with force, they have a tendency
to back up a bit, and so as long as
we continue to I think push the limits of this
thing and also continue to develop the platforms in which
we appear, making sure that we don't ever get to
a position where we're beholden to one institution to get
our word out over another. We should be good, but

(01:19:38):
one exception that I think we're still working to get free,
at least that's my experience. But the goal here ought
to be the liberation for our whole community, where folks
don't have to compromise themselves based off what room they're
walking into, what table they're sitting down to who's on
the other end of that table. That we own our
power enough and are secure enough, meaning financially, mentally, and otherwise,

(01:20:00):
then our people really can't get freed. Yeah, but he's
got to be example somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
We want y'all to expound on what Tiffany was talking about,
Like what's broken about how mainstream media covers race and
politics today?

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
Well, a lack of black voices.

Speaker 27 (01:20:13):
You do see black faces on networks, but not a
lot of black voices, and I think a lot of
people are afraid and so often, particularly in journalism, what's
considered unbiased is rooted in what is white and male,
and that's not the case here, and I think you
have to be bold enough to be the first person
to say it. Oftentimes when you are the first person
to say it, it's controversial. You know, in twenty sixteen,

(01:20:35):
saying Donald Trump was a bigot was controversial. It took
so many other people.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
To get there.

Speaker 27 (01:20:39):
And so you have safe people who will wait until
everybody else says it before they say it. You have
observers who will sit back and learn and make sure
that it's the right, factual thing to say, and then
the boldest among us will come out and speak and
honest truth and use the platform responsibly, not lend it
to people who undermine our community, and also not say

(01:21:00):
something that is not completely one hundred percent back check
and well researched. I think that's we see so many
people trying to be first, sometimes trying to go viral
on social media with these clips and not always censoring
the audience. And so we always censor our viewers because
they're our community.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
We show the man knows it well.

Speaker 14 (01:21:18):
Right coming out of this last cycle, and even before,
you were probably saying things every morning on the breakfast
Club that were just part of your normal ethos. That
took lift that took flight because of how different it
was from the and divergent it was from what the
what regular black voices were.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Saying in media.

Speaker 14 (01:21:35):
And you saw how quickly you became, you know, sort
of annointed as an important, vital voice for the moment.
And I think you know you have to continue that
and you don't need white people to sanction that you've
been doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
That's who you are.

Speaker 14 (01:21:48):
That's what this show has been for our community. And
that's why I think y'all the most listened to. You know,
place for folks to go in the morning, because they
people are discerned.

Speaker 16 (01:22:00):
They know what's real.

Speaker 14 (01:22:01):
They know when they're getting real, and they know when
they're getting played.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
The great thing about the podcast or even when you
guys come together and speak, it's I get information and
layman terms right, Because I always tell everybody all the time.
If you're going to college, take classes outside of your major.
Right your business major, you might want to take classes
in politics to learn more about political science and American
history because when people start talking, you feel like an outsider.

(01:22:26):
When people feel like an outsider, they don't understand. Even
though it doesn't really matter anyway, because Trump does things
that really is not really lawful.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
But when it comes to those things, how do you
continue on doing it right?

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Because it becomes a lot Right this week alone, I'm
just thinking about what we spoke about this week alone.
It was sending troops to different states. It was the
Trump coin for a dollar, it was you know, it's
just so much going on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Freder shutdown is really what federal shut down. It just
seems like.

Speaker 12 (01:22:53):
I think you can learn a lot from Donald Trump too.
I think Donald Trump has taught us two things that
we need to take from the First is that he
speaks to people on really like a very fundamental first
or second grade level, under the theory that if they
understand it, everybody will get it. And the second thing
is I've always said Donald Trump is probably one of
the most honest brokers we've dealt with in a long time,
because he literally told us everything he was going to do.

Speaker 16 (01:23:16):
And for people who are.

Speaker 12 (01:23:17):
Surprised, then, I mean they we talked about Project twenty
twenty five, We talked about it. I mean it's like,
literally page after page after page, Karmala Harris told you
what he was going to do, and it seems as
if not its becoming a reality. People are having some
issue with it. Some of it is well, but I
think that some of it is surprised, not issue, but surprise.

Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
The pace is theyverwhelming. Seventy through Project twenty twenty five.
I thought that it was going to happen. I thought
it was going to be over four year term. It
feels like we've lived one hundred years.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
Yea months.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
I think Project twenty twenty sixth in January when they
get through twenty twenty five, and then January, they've been playing.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
For forty years.

Speaker 14 (01:23:59):
His pace, It might get there. But the other thing
is is it's easy if you're Donald Trump to speak
simply and basically when you're people you're talking to as
a monolith.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
They're all the same.

Speaker 16 (01:24:09):
People who at the core of it, whether they're rich.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Poor, middle class or in between, have as.

Speaker 14 (01:24:13):
A common enemy the rise of black and brown people
in this country.

Speaker 16 (01:24:17):
They see it as a threat.

Speaker 14 (01:24:18):
They may not, even through their own eyes, say I
don't like that person because they're black and brown. What
they see is that kid's a threat to my kid and.

Speaker 12 (01:24:24):
My kids on the degree, But the common denominator, though,
it's fear, I think fear.

Speaker 16 (01:24:30):
Of what others.

Speaker 20 (01:24:32):
It's not even just those people that register what he's
saying better, it's I got family members that be like,
maybe Donald Trump isn't as bad because they simply understood
what he was saying and would they need it or
they were scared.

Speaker 12 (01:24:44):
And I talk about that all the time with with
like a King Jeffries, for example, there's a counterpoint to this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
They don't think they rap, they.

Speaker 10 (01:24:58):
They got.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Yeah, he responded, yes, he did responded.

Speaker 16 (01:25:06):
I mean it was like either the way he responded
to Charlotte Mane.

Speaker 12 (01:25:11):
But what I was saying is that when I when
I my frustration, my frustration with the leader, the minority leader,
is that many times in response, you will see a
post that has four or five, six, seven, eight paragraphs, right,
And that's not the response we need.

Speaker 16 (01:25:25):
That's not meeting the moment.

Speaker 12 (01:25:26):
And there are a lot of people right now that's
my problem, and that's a lot of people's problems with
democratic leadership right now. Chuck Schumer and King Jeffreyes. The
question is are they prepared to meet this moment that
we're in. This isn't a moment for eight paragraphs soliloquies
in college dissertations this is a this is a town
hall in a setting, and a barbershop in a church,
in a you know, at a high school football game,
meeting people one on one talking and we do too

(01:25:47):
much talking. That's another thing, Like Democrats have become a
party that talks at people. They don't even talk to people,
talk at people instead of listen to people.

Speaker 16 (01:25:55):
That's your question.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Can you call somebody a leader if they have to
wait on lobbyists endorse the Democratic nominee for mayor in
New York City?

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Can you really call him a leader? Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:26:04):
I mean, I think I don't have to wait on
their lob But I also think, but also.

Speaker 12 (01:26:08):
Like to be completely honest, I think that leadership from
a king Jefferies would be to call Charlemagne right now
and come sit in here and answer those questions. And
the reason being is because I'm not going to answer
for that man. I've learned a long time ago you
stop answering for other grown men. But I do think
that there is a question that all three of you all,
or questions that all three of you all can sit
down because I have beef. I sit down here and
told you what type of person Eric Adams was. I

(01:26:30):
told you he was terrible.

Speaker 16 (01:26:31):
Nothing.

Speaker 12 (01:26:32):
He was in a good mayor, probably one of the
worst big city mayors we've ever had, right, and that
kind of came to fruition. But I think that you
should have to be able.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
To hold you Soeric Adams the new his book, Alreay
text me.

Speaker 12 (01:26:43):
I told you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
What did you say about Eric Adams early on that
you didn't like that nobody else?

Speaker 12 (01:26:50):
See, No, I just told you he was unethical, and
I told you there was no reason for mayor to
actually govern the city between the hours of eleven and
three am.

Speaker 14 (01:26:58):
So that law statement, Yeah, I mean that these mayors
do between that time.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
That connecting the people, but especially going to Okay for
Air Adams, that's something we're not talking about emergencies we
talked about.

Speaker 16 (01:27:11):
We talking about this dude hang out more than charlam Man.

Speaker 14 (01:27:17):
To meet people where they are, and so to the
extent that his extension of the mayor's office meant being
at a club at a certain hour and people knew
that their mayor was there and maybe they rapped about
something that got the man gage. That'd be something I
don't know that to be true. Leadership, though, has to
be part qualified by your willingness to walk into the fire,
especially when your life is in the fire every single day.

(01:27:40):
The other thing is is what got us, what got
us to this point, won't get us to the next point.
So people think, okay, if Democrats are you know, were
the resistance with this. But you may be that, but
that doesn't win you the House of Representatives, commit terms
or the presidency next unless you are bringing something that
people can approch, be inspired by, and also a plan to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Look forward to forward to say.

Speaker 16 (01:28:06):
It may lose you New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
We're not gonna lose New Jersey.

Speaker 12 (01:28:09):
I'm just saying, though, But I'm just saying that that
type of complacency that you're discussing, we have to have
that urgency of now.

Speaker 14 (01:28:14):
But the thing is, I hate that we have to
be prescribed. It ought to be something in the blood
of anybody who serves to be who puts this into
themselves to lead people. Ought to have so much grit
and conscience, confidence, but also consciousness not to have to
poll test the moment. We should be poll testing whether
or not it works for members to run for reelection

(01:28:35):
without endorsing a Charlie Kirk Resolution of honoring no if
a voter is asking me about whether I endorse that
they're not my voter to begin with, not to mention.
You can resent and hate and to cry the death
and murder of a person without endorsing the harm that
they did during their living years.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
And that resolution went that direction.

Speaker 14 (01:28:55):
The capitulation that took place there is costly, not because.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
It's just Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 14 (01:29:00):
It's an example of what leadership under Democrats looks like,
which is we're willing to cave on our most fundamental
beliefs and throw our most important constituency black people, black women,
black male pilots who he looks at and says whether
or not they're qualified to fly plane because the color
of their skin. This is the dudes you sign onto
a resolution to honoring. If I can't get you to

(01:29:21):
fight for yourself, that's who they are. For yourself, what
do you do for me? The biggest opposition to the
Democrats returning to power are the Democratic leaders themselves.

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to the ladiest with Lauren. Lauren becoming.

Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
A little bit about everything.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
She'd be having the latest on it.

Speaker 10 (01:31:19):
I'm the biggest the latest with Lauren la Rosa.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
In fact, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a
little bit everything.

Speaker 10 (01:31:26):
It's the latest on the breakfast Club. Talk to me.

Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
Well, Stephen A. Smith is in some hot water.

Speaker 20 (01:31:34):
The people are really upset at him right now because
he made some comments about Jasmine Crockett in the way
she expresses herself. Let's take a listen to Stevene's original
comments on Jasmine Crockett expressing herself.

Speaker 28 (01:31:47):
You Jasmine Crockett or somebody like that, Ladies, I respect
intelligent women, no doubt, But how Jasmine Crockett chooses to
express herself, I'm like, is that gonna help your text?
Aren't you there to find way to get stuff done?
As opposed to just being an impediment to what Trump wants.
I'm just gonna go off about Trump, cuss him out
every chance I get, say the most derogatory and sending

(01:32:10):
everything's imaginaball, And that's my day's work.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
That ain't work. Work is saying that's the man in power.

Speaker 10 (01:32:16):
I know what his agenda is.

Speaker 28 (01:32:18):
I'm not exactly in the position to stop him since
the Republicans have the Senate and the House. But maybe
if I'm willing to work with this man, I might
get something out of it for my constituency.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
She's supposed to be there to represent the people.

Speaker 20 (01:32:32):
The tis well those were his original comments, right, So
since those comments, a ton of people have spoken out
against what he's saying and defending Jasmine Crockett I saw
will he d speak out. Stephen Jackson, Tomika Mallory is
calling for people to turn steven A. Smith off and
treat him in his show like the NFL and Bakari.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Seller treat like not watching Everybody watch the NFL.

Speaker 20 (01:32:54):
She's saying she wants people to treat it like the NFL,
or like we did at one point with the NFL
when we talked about not watching it and.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
Then to meet. That's my system, but that never happened.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
Also as well, and Steven A.

Speaker 20 (01:33:06):
Smith mentions this in his new response that will play
he has an issue with Bacari Sellers and something Bookari
Sellers said about his original comments on the Native Land
podcast let's take a listen to Bookcary Sellers defending Jasmincrockett.

Speaker 12 (01:33:18):
There is a through line between the Ice Cubes and
the Jason Whitlocks and the steven A.

Speaker 10 (01:33:24):
Smith.

Speaker 12 (01:33:24):
These individuals have been around since we have been on
this freedom struggle. There have always been individuals out there
which exhibit behaviors of Charlatan's who utilize you know, some
people are in it for the change, and some people
are in it for the change, right, And I think
that that's indicative. And they found they find the easiest
path to the front of the line.

Speaker 10 (01:33:45):
And Stephen A.

Speaker 12 (01:33:46):
Smith is someone who doesn't have the depth to talk
about house oversight or the appropriations process right, and how
you're able to bring resources back to your community, or
what Jasmine is doing, so he rather lampoon her.

Speaker 4 (01:33:58):
So, Steven A.

Speaker 20 (01:33:59):
Smith has been seeing all of this outrage and he says,
you know, normally he does his show at a certain
time every week, but he decided to do an emergency
episode to get back with the people who have something
to say.

Speaker 4 (01:34:08):
So he went on his show straight to the emergency.
That was a straight shooter with Stephen A. Smith and
he last night, Yes, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
What I was listening vacation. It wasn't you on vacation
for somewhere, And.

Speaker 20 (01:34:19):
He said he came back because he's been seeing all
this conversation, some from people he thought were his friends,
and he has some things that he needed to say.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
So let's take a listen to number four.

Speaker 10 (01:34:30):
Wow, Willie D.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
You sure are uplifting. I mean I got to be touched.
That was inspiration.

Speaker 28 (01:34:36):
Really, that really really was. That was inspirational. I'm doing sucker.
That's what you call inspirational. That's what you call uplifting. Really,
not having heard everything that Roland Mart said, d LL
Hughglely had to say, not verb respect.

Speaker 10 (01:34:49):
First of all, I'm.

Speaker 28 (01:34:49):
Gonna be very very careful by anything that I say
about Roland Mark because's I'm gonna be careful by anything.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
That I say about D. L.

Speaker 10 (01:34:55):
Hugley because I have respect for that man. We've spoken
a few months ago.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
I got numb but love for him.

Speaker 10 (01:35:00):
I am concerned about him.

Speaker 28 (01:35:01):
Not making people laugh and smile as much anymore as
he used to, because he's more of an activist now
than a comedian.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
But that's a choice and that's his right.

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
Yeah. Okay, so yeah, So now there's more. I got
some more for you now.

Speaker 20 (01:35:15):
He also says in this clip that his issue with
Jasmine Crockett is that she speaks to she's too street.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
Let's take a listen to us. Stephen A on Jasmine
speaking to.

Speaker 28 (01:35:25):
The streets, Crockett's performance in the House scorting reasons. What
I was saying was this educated, brilliant black woman representing
over seven hundred and fifty thousand people is engaging in
verbiage and rhetoric for the streets.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
And that's fine when you're in the streets.

Speaker 28 (01:35:42):
How many of y'all bring the streets to the table
when you at the negotiating table trying to get a
deal done?

Speaker 10 (01:35:46):
How many of you are able to think that for.

Speaker 28 (01:35:49):
A second, that you're able to bring street verbiage to
Capitol Hill and that's gonna work for you. You literally
have senators and congressional figures on.

Speaker 10 (01:35:59):
Capitol Hill on the side of.

Speaker 28 (01:36:00):
The Republicans telling the networks, whether it's Fox News, News
Nation or anybody else, please please please put her front
and center on the camera. Why would they do that
because they know it wins for them.

Speaker 20 (01:36:14):
Yeah, so he has a Yeah, people were upset you know,
I think with Jasmine Crockett, in my opinion, the reason
why people put her front and center focused and platform
her is because she speaks in a way that it
appeals to people who just aren't politicians like the Especially
for me, I go to all the time and see
how she feels about things and how she's expressing herself

(01:36:35):
because I learned what's happening. But then I also I
like how she tells how she honestly feels about Say,
they can say whatever they want, why she can't say
what she wants?

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
And I would say, you said steven A is in
hot water. Stephen A is not in hot water, because
this is exactly what he does. He says things and
people respond to it. He is provocative, He gets the
people going right, it's all content, everybody just making content.
So it makes for good conversation. Now as far as
what he said about Jasmin Crockett and for me and
Steve and they spoke about this behind the scenes this week,
But I don't think any elected official is above critique.

(01:37:08):
But you got to criticize their policy, and it seems
like steven A is criticizing her style. And if you
are criticizing her style and telling her she needs to
change her style to be able to get things done,
but also saying that also telling her to do that
to get things done with one of the most uncouth
political figures.

Speaker 16 (01:37:24):
Ever in Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
Then I got to say that you know you're bugging
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
Trump talks crazy, so you can't call out Jasmine for
allegedly talking crazy. You know his words, but not Trump.
And I also believe that you know Tamika Mallory and
Bacari sellers. They need to have a conversation with Steven A.
They should go on steven As show and explain to
him why playing nice with Trump doesn't work. And I

(01:37:48):
have no problem with Jasmine Crockett and her opposition are
her resistance to Trump. I have no problem with her
calling out Trump and challenging the president of the United
States of America.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
I have no problem. I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
The problem I do have is and you can critique
to anybody you want, but when you're talking about policy,
it should be somebody from her district that has that problem,
somebody that is affected by the things that she's doing.
And if her district doesn't have a problem with it,
and her district loves it. That means she's doing the
job that they voted for her to do, so it
should not be an issue or a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
The other thing that I do hate and I hate it.
I hate it and I hate it. And you might
not like what Steven A.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
Smith says. You might think he's a clown. I've been
seeing the chat and you might disagree with everything he says. Well,
what I can't stand is when somebody wants to cancel
somebody based off of their opinion. You might not like
their opinion, and the opinion might not suit you, but
you can have the right to turn off that TV,
to turn off that radio. Says he's not my cup
of tea. But I hate the fact when you say, well,

(01:38:43):
I don't like what he has to say, we canceling him.
I hate that you sound like Trump talking about his opposition.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
I I just hate that. And also don't want to
add this.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
I love Jasmin Crockett because she's fearless and I know
Jack Crockett is about the people.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
She puts the people first every time.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
And the reason I noticed is because the old guard
in both parties don't like her. Republicans kick Jasmine Crockett
back in publicly, Democrats kick her back in privately, and
at least to me, that's how I know she's a
real person because she's because both sides be having issues
with her. That's when you know a politician is putting

(01:39:20):
the people over over party or anything else when both
sides can't stand her.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
And I hate the she talks street. She's a highly
intellectual woman. That she speaks the way that she speaks,
and I don't have.

Speaker 10 (01:39:35):
A problem with it.

Speaker 20 (01:39:35):
I do want to say this to that v steven A.
Smith did take some time to there her restiment. He
does call her educated, and he does all the things,
but he doesn't agree with how she talks. At the
same time, I don't want to say, steven.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
But if you don't agree with Jasmine Crockett and you're
telling Jasmin Crockett she needs to talk a certain way
to be able to work with Trump, who.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Talked crazy Trump like that, don't make that stephen A
make even two timing. He'd be whatever Donald Trump say.
He says it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
It don't even make no logical the ones Again, I
like Jazmine because she's feearless and I said a million
times the reason I know she's a real person who
puts the people over any party or any politics. Is
because both parties kick her back in. Republicans do it publicly.
There's a lot of Democrats who do it privately. May not,

(01:40:24):
she may not be able to say that, but I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:40:26):
That's the great thing. I didn't even know that until
you just said it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
All right, well that is the latest with Lauren alright.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
But but why do they kick come back in Democrats?

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
I think because she's effective, and I think that they want,
you know, they want people to move a certain way
and speak a certain.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
Waytic and a certain way, and she's not doing it. Yeah,
simbol as that all right. Now when we come back,
we got the mix. Today is Usher's birthday, you know,
your favorite ke Smith birthday. Every birthday.

Speaker 4 (01:40:59):
They come up his birthday, chea. You know I'm mad
at him. Get your content and do what you're gonna do.
You know exactly what to do.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
It's the Breakfast Club AA and on chat. We'll see
y'all tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
Shlute to everybody in the Breakfast Club am Twitch Chat
Chat will see how tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
It's the Breakfast Club. Go morning mourning everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
It's DJ n V, jes Elarious, Charlamagne the guy. We
are the Breakfast Club. And I want to salute again
to everybody that I met in China. Salute to the NBA,
Salute to reg Reggie for having me out there. I
had an amazing time. I got a chance to DJ
the post party, after party, whatever you want to call it,
to the Brooklyn Nets first, the Phoenix Suns.

Speaker 16 (01:41:32):
Reggie in China.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
Yeah, Reggie live in China. Yeah you're black.

Speaker 10 (01:41:35):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
He's a brother from China. What made him move out there?

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
He said, he moved out there twenty five years ago,
and he said he just loves it. He just said
he just loves everything about it. He said, he makes
a lot of money, he loves the people, loves the food,
loves everything there. So he's kind of like the the
in between between anybody that comes down there and really
really cool do He knows everybody from the Chinese celebrities,
actors to the American Like if you ever go to
his page, he has pictures with Kobe to pictures with
you know, the Denzel Washington of China. So, oh my god,

(01:42:00):
yeah Washington, China. But he's an actor that's like he's
like so big, yeah, Jackie. But like in China, actually
he was the one. If you look at my picture
sitting courtside, he was the one on the right side
of me. Real cool individual. He actually used to live
in Jersey Fort Lee and then he moved back to China.
But yeah, I had an amazing time. So salute again
to the NBA. Out of the k pop TikTok with Jess,

(01:42:21):
Salute to Jesse. I ran into Jeremy Lynn, I ran
into Gin, I ran into Shaw and Marion. I've seen Strawberry,
Stefan Maulberry, I've seen Tim Hardaway, Vince Carter, Shaquille O'Neill,
everybody's out there in China. We had a great time.
So salute to the NBA over there.

Speaker 4 (01:42:38):
No like giants like where is y'all? Where is y'all?
They didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
They really didn't even know me that you know who.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
They was really into Mercedes because six three, so they
thought she was a w NBA. So people were coming
up her, asking asking taking pictures of I asked my team,
she played take advantage? She sure did, yes, she just
showed that she was like, yeah, I play, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
She took pictures. So there's mad people that with pictures
of bends that that's over here posting.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
I'm wondering why they ain't getting no likes, wondering why
they're not getting no comments.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
So it salutes everybody. Makay Makai is like the Vegas
of China, so there's like casinos and hotels and it
was just it was just beautiful.

Speaker 11 (01:43:17):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
I had a great time. I can't wait to get
back to China.

Speaker 10 (01:43:19):
Had a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
So hopefully next year we can make it back out there.
Salut to Miguel for joining us this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
Yes, sir, love Man. I love Miguel Man. His new album,
Chaos comes out October twenty third. He hasn't put out
an album in eight years. And you know, like I
told Miguel during the interview, you know, when I listen
to Chaos, there's just a feeling that Miguel sound gives you,
you know what I mean. So it's just like for him,
like people like him, Ericaba, Dude, Jill Scott, I don't

(01:43:44):
need them to put out music every year.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
I don't because I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
Still vibing off their old catalog anyway. So when they
do give us something I know they didn't really mean something.
It's like Kendrick, you know what I mean, Kendrick don't
come out since it don't come out.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
All the time. Yeah, so you know Miguel, he wasn't
in no rush. Goddamn it. That's right. But getting something
next Friday.

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And also salute to Angela Ra, Tiffany Cross, Andrew Gillim
and Bacari Sellers. Hey, the Native Lamp podcast. They just
added Bocari Sellers or salute to them for joining us.

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Make sure you get your tickets if you have not yet.

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All that I'm gonna give y'all candy for y'all kids
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That's our name. Don't be looking over here. Yeah, her
name is her favorite African. She's like a dancer, She's
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(01:45:05):
braiding shops which I went to get my hair done
okay yesterday in New Jersey. She owns one in the
Bronx and one in New Jersey and it's called Why
I say looks, y'all please book with her.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
This is lit. I just want to stand up for
ten hours. It was one girl, yes, but it was
only one girl and she tore it down.

Speaker 5 (01:45:28):
Shout out the day. She is Senegalese braider. Get a
braider from Senegal. If you want to get your issh
rocks up period.

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Man, tell them how long do those braids last? Because
you're there for ten hours, I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:45:40):
Keep these there for three months. I don't care.

Speaker 5 (01:45:43):
I'm gonna keep these there for three months. But they
do touch ups, they do takedowns, they do all of that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:47):
They do Yo, they do ankle length braids.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Why you need that? Yeah, why you need to the ankle?

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
First of all, your favorite African got them favorite her
name is Rose. That's that's her name, Instagra. But she
got it and she is fied.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
But that's why I don't want to know. Why jack
your head down you're taking you lift them up crazy?

Speaker 17 (01:46:07):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
Why?

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
All right? I just get trying to head y'all love
y'all bye, because y'all doing too much.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
I ain't never seen nobody with no ankle.

Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
I'm gonna show you, and she's killing it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
She looks good, all right. Don't believe the ends seem
like they stink because they they don't.

Speaker 4 (01:46:20):
Sorry, Rose, you know the stink.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
You got a positive note. It's a positive notice about friends.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
You don't lose friends because real friends can never be lost.
You lose people masquerading as friends. And please understand you're
better for it when they're gone. Have a blessed day.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
Breakfast club bitches, you don't finish for y'all done

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