Gabby Seay Talks BlackPAC, Importance of Early Voting, BLM Movement, Democratic Party + More

Gabby Seay Talks BlackPAC, Importance of Early Voting, BLM Movement, Democratic Party + More

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
In the morning Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy,
Angel Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest in the building, GABC. Hello,
good morning. You're from the BPACK Black Progressive Action Coalitiontion. Yeah,
B PACK and Blackpack. We are a national organization that's

(00:21):
the voted to turn it out black voters across the country.
And we do this not in election years and medterm
elections that's happening right now, but every single day because
for black people, our lives and our freedom is always
on the ballot. And so that's what we do and
who we are voting. How's it looking right now early
voting twenty eight almost twenty nine million Americans have already

(00:43):
early voted. So like there's lie that we've been hearing
that there's an enthusiasm gap, that we're not seeing democrats
or young people or black people come out at the
same rate. False, we're sitting there come out at record rates.
And so it's happening already. We see in battleground states
like Pennsylvania where John Fetterman is on the ballot he's
running for Senate, and Georgia. I know y'all have been

(01:05):
talking about Georgia a lot, y'all, Uncle Herschel, these have
places where we're seeing democrats really show up and show
out in an early vote. So we feel good about that.
Is it difficult to get some of the black voters
out because they feeling like every time they do come out,
it feels like politicians don't show up for them. You know,
it's difficult caught because one just the history of black

(01:26):
folks in this country right make a lot of things difficult.
But what we have seen throughout history is that the
most consequential moments in American history where we have progressed
our country forward, black people have been at the center
of that. Black people have been advocating for that. And
so black folks more than any other group of Americans,

(01:46):
know what it means to have your freedom on the
ballot and they know that the power in the vote,
and so things are difficult right now. You know, goods
are more expensive, Inflation is rising. You know, an expensive
food is expensive, every drink is expensive. You know, I'm
scared to leave my house. Every time I leave my house,

(02:08):
I feel like I spend a rack. But ridiculous it
is so I get people being frustrated in this moment,
But I think we also have to understand that progress,
our power isn't our vote in progress is sometimes slow.
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't have elected officials that
have our values, that understand our issues. When folks ask
me that question, and I get that a lot. The

(02:30):
things that we should be looking for and elected officials,
it's clarity on our issues. Do they understand what is
facing our community? Right? Do they understand? Are they willing
to listen and learn about what's happening? Number two? Do
they have a plan to execute on this? Right? So
that's tangibles, a lot of talking points, but they have
no solutions. Cool, you know you have some ideas. That's

(02:52):
what elections are about, right, That's what we do in
this election. We evaluate people's plans. But then the most
important part, and the part that we often forget is
once they are in office, holding them up accountable to
those plans, making sure that we are showing up and saying, hey,
you said you were going to do this in your election,
did you do it right? People have an opportunity every two,

(03:12):
four or six years to get people out of office.
I wish we had those opportunities in relationships. I wish
that if you start dating somebody to be like like,
we would be healthier and relationships if that was true. So, like,
you know, elections are about making the best choice that
you can with the information you have right now. We

(03:33):
can't see into the future, we can't protect our people
will behave, but what we can look at his history.
I think a lot of times, I think I feel
like with these elections, it almost feels like you're forced
to pick somebody that you don't necessarily want, right Like
even with Joe Biden, a lot of people you know,
didn't necessarily that wasn't their first choice, but he was
the only choice at the time, and it was like, well,
I guess I have to, you know. And I think

(03:55):
that happens a lot. I feel like with with especially
with our coaching community, blacks and brown I just feel
like a lot of times I feel like we get
smacked in the face all the time, right and you say, Okay,
we're gonna vote for a black judge, we vote for
the black judge, and then the black judge that looks
like us, it feels like he does more hurt than help.
Then you look at all these other communities. Right you talk,

(04:16):
you look at Kyrie and you see, you know what
he said about the Jewish people, and immediately they donated
five hundred thousand, and he has to take classes or
whatever it may be. But then you look at some
of these owners that said some things about black people
and they never had to take no classes, no money.
So it feels like it's constantly against us, and it
has to be to the point where it's like, why
am I voting? Yeah, how does it help? How does

(04:36):
it benefit me on my kids? Or I'm going to
say one thing too though, I think it's really important
to also encourage people who you think would represent you
well to run for office, because I think too often
people who would be great in those positions aren't even
thinking about that. And so we should encourage people who
were like, you know what, you would be a great
counsel person, or you would be a great let's get
you on the path to do that. And sometimes that

(04:57):
does take financial support, Yes, I mean that's a real
barrier to a lot of folks running for office. Most
of the people that are in Congress are millionaires, right,
A lot of them are well off. Get your money right.
But you know a lot of folks like um like
to make fun of a person like AOC because she
was a bartender before you know, she became a member

(05:19):
of Congress. But I'm okay with that, right, Yeah, I'm
okay with a person that had to work their way
through college. Right. I'm okay with a pipe fitter or
a plumber becoming a member of Congress or running for
elected office. My daddy is a pipe fitter and plumber.
We have to have to set those candidates financially, and
that's important too. And then even right now, like as

(05:42):
we get close to these elections, we see so many
ads on TV, and there's so many different things coming.
We don't know what's too and what's not right, Like
in particular in New York, we're looking at Leezeldon versus
Governor Kathy Hokel And when I tell you, I see
a Lee Zelden ad like every five seconds, every everywhere,
and the thing is that he's saying. And then Kathy
Hooker was up here also, they both have been up here,

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and so a lot of times it's dispelling the narratives
that are put out there. But sometimes people just say,
I'm like I feel like politicians can just say anything
anything about the other person, whether or not it is true,
and then it's really up to us to fact check.
But sometimes people aren't fact checking. Yeah, and I think
we have to That is yes and no, right, So yes,
people sometimes politicians say wild things and say things about

(06:26):
each other. But we have seen a change in the
tenor just look at what happened to Speaker Pelosi's husband.
There is a time in politics where elderly man being
attacked in his own home will cause horror across the board,
no matter what's your political affiliation, no matter who you are,
and that did not happen, and it's very sad and
it's very very scary. So I think you're right. There

(06:48):
are concerted efforts right. Lee's Eldon is a part of
these concerted efforts. Herschel Walkers a part of these concerted
efforts to lie to black and brown voters. We have
to know that that is happening and they are not
on our side, and we have to look at history
and we have to assess the facts. And you know,

(07:08):
you don't have to be a political scientist and have
a PhD in communications to call out a lie. We
call out lives all the time, right, We do that
all the time, and so let's not have the horror
that people feel when they see politicians just say wild
things about each other. We should feel that, but we
should also allow that to inform how we are making

(07:30):
those choices, because that if that is something that they
say out loud in front of you, imagine what they
say about you behind your back. The problem is a
lot of people can't fact check. They don't have the
time to fact check. You know, as a kid, when
you've seen politicians on TV and they were talking, usually
after you would see a wrap up and they would
try to fact check. But now with this phone, yeah,
this phone live is more than anything else in this world.

(07:50):
When you look at something and you think it's true,
but it's not true, so you don't know who to follow,
where to go to fact check. I mean Wikipedia, which
most people get their information is wrong. Because I'm a
gardener on that and I've never been a gardener. You
can find something to back up anything. You can't. You
can find something to back up everything. That's why. But
organizations like Black Pack or Important because we do this

(08:11):
kind of deep work to build trust among black voters.
We've knocked on over three million doors in Pennsylvania and Nevada,
in Michigan and Wisconsin, in Virginia and North Carolina and Georgia.
Because we need to do this work, and we're not alone,
and there are tons of national organizations that are doing

(08:31):
this work. There are even more local organizations that are
doing this work to dispel the myths, and we're here.
Like media has an obligation, you all recognize your obligation
to the public and what you're saying is really important
and people look to you for your opinion. So I
think what we're doing now having this conversation helps to
dispel the myths. Listening and find your organizations that you

(08:52):
trust that have been on the right side of history consistently.
If you see an organization that's talking about something, you've
never heard of them. They're saying the wildest thing, right.
People don't have time to go and fact check everything.
But you got your spidy sense, you got your gut,
you got what your grandmother told you at some point.
You know, like, we have ways to assess if something

(09:13):
is really okay. So tell me if this is real,
because I've seen that their statistics that are leaving the
Democratic Party at a higher rate than anybody else. Is
that myth? Or is that true? Listen? I have a
friend more Reice Mentrol who runs the Working Families Party
that says, you know, grass grows where you water it, right,

(09:35):
And I think when it comes particularly to black men,
there are tons of challenges that we've seen in this election.
We've seen this and misinformation to allow people to stay home.
We've seen that in twenty twenty. What is happening now
is people are actually believing it and not just staying
home because they don't trust the system, but considering voting
for people that they never would have before. A couple

(09:57):
of things that we should take away from that one
we have to continue to do this work that Black
Pack and b Pack have been joined in talking to
black voters all the time, right constantly saying, Hey, is
Joe Biden doing what you asked him to do? All right?
Yeah he is, because when if you look at the data,
he has delivered on ninety percent of the things that

(10:18):
he talked about in the campaign, delivering for black folks.
So I think we have to really ask those questions.
And I also think it's true that that this is
a time and a volatile time that folks are looking
for answers right and sometimes the answers are not right,
but it is an answer, and so we have to

(10:38):
continue to do the work to let folks know that
we have a real choice to make in this election,
and voting for someone again doesn't mean that you got
to be married to it forever. You're gonna have an
opportunity to hold them accountable, and you're gonna have an
opportunity to choose someone else if we want someone else
to run for office. You have a choice in this election.
And I think that's the number one thing we have
to impress upon people. Joe, vote Democrat because we're telling

(11:00):
you too, because because your grandmother has, because everybody that
you know has. That's not that's not what we're telling
you to do. What we're telling you to do is
look at people's plans, look at their ability to act
on those plans, and look at what they have done
for you in the past. Right part, you were part
of the team that helped Eric Adams come may of
New York. Absolutely not. I yeah, I ran an independent

(11:26):
expniture from Maya Wiley. Now Eric Adams is my mayor
I want him to be successful. I want this black
man to be successful. I will always do everything I can.
But that's not where I started. Where Eric, did you?
How did you get into this right now? Like we
usually don't like that, Like ye service political director at
the Influence Labor Union propel Eric Adams to become mayor.

(11:49):
But anyway, how did you get started in? No? No,
I think you got so. Yeah, I get in politics.
So I grew up in the South end, in the
Midwest group in Alabama and Ohio, and I actually got
involved Huntsville. I'm a you're gonna see some of my cousins. Yes, yeah,

(12:13):
you'll definitely see my uncle, some of my cousins. I mean,
my father has eleven first brothers and sisters or brothers
and sisters, so we got a big family. So you're
gonna see my cousin away. You should. Anyway, No, I
got started um around two thousand and three the Iraq War.
I was in college and my brother went into the
army and was stopped lost. I went to University of Toledo,

(12:35):
go rockets and um. Before he was discharged from the military,
he had to go fight in the war in Iraq.
So I got really involved in the anti war work
and protesting. And this man, John Kerry was running for president.
He was like, I'm an in the war in Iraq,
and you know, I'm nineteen year old Gabby like me
and John Kerry going in the war in Iraq, and
I like work my little heart out for him. Um,

(12:56):
he didn't win. My brother eventually came home. You know,
Middle East is still in a quagmire. But it really
sparked a desire in me. I always had a desire
to help people, but I found politics was a way
for me to have an impact on a lot of
different issues. Because there isn't one issue I care about.
I care about them all and I care about our people.

(13:17):
And so that's how I got started. It has continued
and worked on all kinds of campaigns within organizations. So
leven I and I say, I use is the labor
union I worked for here in New York City. So
that's how I got started. And that's my story, and
I think a lot of folks have a similar story.
At a point that propelled you into action. For me,
it was my brother. For others, it might be experience

(13:40):
they had in their childhood. It might be then listening
to the show and they're like, let me go. I've
never thought about that, let me go to that. So
there are many pathways to this kind of work. So
let me ask you this. Right, when people vote, sometimes
if you don't do your research, you might just vote
on your party line. For you, have you always only
voted Democrat? Have you ever voted for a Republican? You know,

(14:00):
I've never voted for a Republicans. I haven't had one
with whom my value is aligned with more than the Democrats.
Have I voted for Democrats that I think We're not
my first choice, absolutely right, But for me, when I
when I look at what's important to me, when I
look at the legacy of what of what different not

(14:21):
different parties, but what different UM elected officials that I
think have my values done, They've always they've always been
democratic and and maybe a little bit further now, would
I ever vote for a maybe in this current environment.
I don't understand why, um that why I would, But

(14:41):
I've always uh you know, voted my values and us
always alige. I think about the two party system because
we've heard a lot of people criticizing that too. I
think the two party system is what we have here
in the United States. And one thing that we shouldn't do,
and I encourage folks not to do, it's not let
the perfect be the enemy of the good. Like we
have a functioning democracy right now as we speak. You know,

(15:04):
a lot of this is on the line in this election.
If you care about elections, if you care about this democracy,
if you care about institutions being there for our community,
like this is a really critical election for folks to
be in. I think that everyone participating in democracy is
a good thing, whether you're a Republican Democrat, whether you're
a third party like the Working Famili's Party or the

(15:25):
Conservative Party here in New York State. I like, I
personally believe that all these things should be a part
of our democracy. But I'm realistic about the system that
we have to operate in right now now. Black Lives Matter?
Has that helped to hurt your your cause an organization?
Because people it's hard for people to see what the
organization is compared to the hashtag, compared to the movement.

(15:48):
So I know a lot of times people look at
it like it's that organization good? Are they just out
there for money? So? Has that helped to hurt what
you've been doing. I mean, first of all, like our
name is Blackpack, so we are here for black people. However,
black people need us to be. I think that Black
Lives Matter movement was really consequential for a lot of things,

(16:09):
to put a spotlight squarely on things that we live
and deal with every single day. And so I think
our Black Lives Matter, we really owe it our community
as a whole, not just black and brown folks, but
Americans in this entire world really owe a debt to that.
But you know what, our work, the work that we

(16:30):
have been doing Black Packs since twenty sixteen, is so consequential,
and it's and it continues to be and it always
will be no matter what movement pops up, whether there's
Black Lives Matter where that we're talking about me too.
These are all things that collectively strengthen our political awareness,
right because black lives matter. I saw some people in
twenty twenty protesting that I would have never thought were

(16:52):
out in this street. So what movements like that do
is raise political consciousness, allow people to see themselves in
a different way, and kind of you know, rising tide
lifts all boats. When we have more folks that are
actively participating no matter how they came to it, if
they came to political uh, if they came into political
awareness because they went to a Black Lives Matter protest

(17:14):
and now they're voting and organizing that its communities. That
is great. We've seen that across the board. What are
some things in particular right now that's going on that
actually make you angry when you think about what's happening.
I want to know what's at the top of your
list of the things that you're You're like, we should
all be mad about. I mean, no, you know, I'm
not giving him anymore today. Y'all have talked about that

(17:38):
enough and no, um, he isn't the thing that works me.
The thing that you know, really concerns me and should
concern us. Are you know, the attacks at our institutions
When we talk about our freedom being on the line
right now, that's what we really mean right now. The
Supreme Court Monday heard arguments about dismantling affirmative action. Right,

(18:01):
So let's just play this a little bit. So if
we dismantle affirmative action, what colleges have told us across
the board, whether they are elite universities or state universities
that this is gonna decrease access, this is going to
decrease diversity. We are gonna see less black and brown
folks go to college if we do this, Supreme Court,
it's like, oh, all right, no problem to us, um,

(18:22):
So let's play it for it that happens we see
less and less black and brown folks going into universities
in the future. Rarely do you see any leader in
this country that doesn't have a college degree, Not a
member of Congress, rarely, not a CEO of a fortune
five hundred company, not the most influential reporters. You certainly

(18:43):
don't not kind of see anyone, Um almost you know, well,
you know I said, I said usually listen always, but yes, okay,
don't beat up on it here. But the point is that,
you know, halways of leadership usually go through higher education, right,

(19:04):
And so we're attacking this institution, we're making it harder
for certain folks to be a part of it. That
is worrying to me because what that means is in
twenty years, we're probably going to have a very male
and a very pale leaders across this country. They might
not have the experiences that I have had as a
black woman. That is upsetting to me when we see
the Supreme Court say, hey, the Environmental Protection Agency, which

(19:27):
is what they did in June, doesn't have the authority
anymore to regulate greenhouse and gas emissions. Right, We're in
a climate catastrophe as we speak. We feel it every day.
Seventy degrees today in New York and November November I
was hot all week, right, And folks will say, oh, well,

(19:47):
the climate change is all the time. No, it does
not change in this way. And so institutions like the
Supreme Court, which is appointed. The Supreme Court we have
right now is largely overturning roll versus like these are
all super consequential decisions that should make. That should frighten us,
because while that's happening at the Supreme Court, we have

(20:09):
legislatures changing the way our children are educated, changing the curriculum.
We are banning books like let's talk about the attacks
on democracy. Right now in Arizona, there are people monitoring
ballot drop boxes, armed camouflage, taking pictures of people, taking
pictures of their license play, following them home. These are

(20:29):
all very scary things. Now we're telling you this not
to scare you out of voting, but to allow you
to see that our we have power in our vote,
We have power in the way that we are educated.
If we did not, they would not be working so
hard to take it that we're going to go vote,
And so they trying to intimidate everybody. I said the
whole thing about the Boogaloo boys, and yeah, it's scary,

(20:54):
but but we have the ability and the powers that
have an impacted. So when people say why should I vote,
what I say is, why are you willingly giving your
power away? Why why are you telling yourself I don't
deserve to be in this conversation. I don't deserve to
have the representation that I need, that our communities need,
that my family needs. And so there are lots of

(21:15):
things that are piss of me off right now. But
I think the dismantling of the institutions that have made
us this country who it is and have provided folks
like me. I'm a generation away from picking cotton. My
father pick cotton. My grandfather was a sharecropper and did
not die not knowing how to read. Wow, and here
I am talking to you all. That's the American dream,

(21:38):
But that no longer. Most people do not have access
to that now. Influencewatch dot com said that b Pack
is said to be a dark money group. What is
a dark money group? I don't know what a dark
money group is. If a dark money group to you
is an organization that mobilizes and turns out black people
to vote and wreck your numbers, yes, then yes where

(21:59):
a dark organisation. If a dark organization is one that
holds elected officials accountable, yes, we'll help you get into office,
but we're also going to hold you accountable and we're
going to show up, then yes, we're a darc running organization.
I think that influence whatever. I'm gonna even give them
a name again. Um, you know, it's targeting people who
are building political power and trying to make it. These

(22:21):
spook your organizations. No, you know what black Pack does
tell black people that they're powerful, that their vote matters,
and then they need to turn out to vote. What
about you running for office? Absolutely not. So there are
some people that are more behind the scenes people. There

(22:42):
are some folks that like really love helping others. That's me. Um.
I have worked for elected officials, helped elect a lot
of elected officials. That is that is the role that
I play. I don't want me an elected office either, man,
I would be insufferable. No, I don't. It's just it's
it's not for me. Every person has a pathway. I
think that's the wonderful thing about elections and about politics.

(23:07):
There's a lot of ways for you to have an
impact in it. And it isn't just about running for
her office. Angela, You're one hundred percent right. The people
who should run for office are not the people who
usually stop up right. That's what I'm thinking, because it
feels like what you need is, honestly, people who can
mobilize people, people know how to get things done, have plans,
can put those plans into action. Yeah, well I don't

(23:31):
know if I could do that job in this job.
Why not log Oh. I was like, well, that one's
going there. I'm gonna have my own show, okay, starting
in January actulation, And much like Gabby, I feel like
my role is these efficients we I mean, look, we've
had chio say up here. I know, you know, he's

(23:53):
my congress or my compliment. We live in the same
area Hakeem Jeffreys as well, you know, and so obviously
we had Kathy Hokland, Lee's elden up here and so
I think you know my role is to give a
light to something. I don't know if I could be
on the radio and be running for office, I don't
know if that would be No, it's up to you.
It's your time because because you know the fair time acting,

(24:15):
you know I would have to give whoever's running against
me the same amount. How could I not? You see
what happened to Chris Cuomo? So how donate to your
organization if they want to get behind you and maybe
don't want to run like you, or join the organization.
So you can go to Blackpack dot com b L
A c k pac dot com to learn more about

(24:37):
our organization. If you are looking for resources for this election,
you want to know where your voting location is, uh,
you know your pulling location is ours? You can go
to a Blackpack vote talk and he's on the ballot
so that you can go through it before you get there.
Like I always say, make sure that you have a
plane go look it up. See who these people are
if you don't know, because sometimes there's people you're like

(25:00):
where these people and you just randomly picky, but know
who you're voting for, know who you're voting for, and
make a plan to vote. We know that when people
make a vandom float to vote, they are much more
likely to do so. And so encouraging your listeners to
make a plan to vote, whether they want to vote early,
they want to vote on an election day, how are
you getting too your polling location again? Folks can go

(25:20):
to blackpack vote dot com to learn more about voting
in their state, and to blackpack dot com to learn
more about an organization and to be able to join
and donate. Like I said, our members and our volunteers
are texting, calling, knocking on doors every single day. We
have never left. In some states like Pennsylvania and Michigan,

(25:41):
we never stopped talking to black folks and real organization
that we'll talk to any like. There is no qualification.
You don't have to have voted in X elections or
supported X candidates if you are black, were believe in
you're innate power to change our country because we've done
it many many times before. How does that feel someone
come into your door announced. We had a whole conversation

(26:02):
about canvas saying, yeah, it's hard because how many people
witness used to come. I'm not expecting someone I have
to send people in like a ups outfit. No. Yeah,
actually people are are nicer than you think. I you know,
everywhere you be surprised. I get a warmer reception if

(26:24):
someone was like, go knock on doors than Carnarsi, or
go knock on doors in Long Island. I would choose
Canarsi every single day of the week because people are lovelier. Um,
you know, nothing against Long Island. I'm not reallywed to
get that coffee now, while people are, I know they
It depends state to state. States have the ability to
control elections, which is why secretary of states are so

(26:46):
important in most places because they control elections. And if
you have a secretary of state that leaves that Donald
Trump won the presidential election and we'll do anything to
make sure that he wins again in twenty twenty four,
that's a bit of a red fly. Right. Let's not
support those people that believe that elections should uh should
only be recognized if your particular candidate wins um and

(27:09):
so those rules about you know what happens in line?
Can you give somebody that is cold a blanket? In
some places you cannot I think I don't even know why,
why that's how that even happened. I just don't well,
because too we don't want to know how that happens.
Because too many black folks are turning out to vote
in record numbers and early. So the first folks try

(27:30):
to restrict you know, you have to have certain type
of IDs. Then they try to restrict hours. Oh, you
can only go at these certain hours. And black volks
were like, you can do all those things. I am
still voting and they still vote it. And now it's like, okay, well,
now that you have long lines, now that you can
only vote at certain times of day, you're gonna have
to wait in this eight hourly and you can know

(27:50):
food unless you bring it yourself, no one can help you.
And so like these are these are intentional and planned.
These I like people should be upset that they are
elected officials almost entirely whom are Republicans right now that
are trying to find ways to take away You're right?
They take away I right to bother you autonomy, you know,

(28:11):
with the road decision hanging away our right to breathe
clean air, with the EPA decision taking away rights here
and there if you're okay with those things been taken
from you by all means, are you hopeful that since
you bought up Donald Trump that he'll be accountable for
January six or any of the things that he's done.
You know, I try not to say anything about Donald

(28:32):
Trump and what will or will not happen to him,
because he is a private citizen that has little control
over my life right now, right and so I don't
really try to give him the time and space in
my mind. What I will say is that, you know,
Donald Trump is just one of the indications of what
folks who do not want us to have power have

(28:53):
been up to for decades. It didn't start with Donald Trump,
it didn't start with Sarah Paline, and start a long
time ago, you know, um, preparing for this moment right now,
we are living the wildest dreams of people who have
tried to keep us oppressed ever since we landed here
in sixteen nineteen. For black folks is what I'm talking about.
So um, I'm not you know, whether he's help accountable

(29:18):
has nothing to do with imagine being able to run
again after all of that. You know, the Constitution allows
him to do that. I can't stop anybody. I'm saying,
even if if he gets convicted of something, then maybe not,
maybe not. But I think that what he has shown
is he has no regard for laws, for the constitution,

(29:38):
for things that we have always done in this country,
like recognize elections. He has no regard for that. Other
countries think of us when they look at our whole
everything that's going on here. They got their problems to Yeah,
but you know when we travel other places, people be like,
y'all are crazy. We appreciate you. Thank you for having

(29:58):
me so much, just putting a pleasure. Seni advisor to
BPACK Black Progressive Action Coalition, thank you once again one
more time. Website so people. Website is BLACKPAC dot com
b O A c K p AC dot com, blackpack
dot com. Thanks so much. Al Right, it's to breakfast
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