June 15, 2025 • 16 mins
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In this episode of Hunting 4 Answers: When 16-year-old Lauren Heath disappeared from her quiet North Carolina neighborhood, panic spread fast. As her face appeared on billboards across the South, her family feared the worst. But it wasn’t until nearly two weeks later—hundreds of miles away—that the chilling reality surfaced. In this gripping episode, we speak exclusively with Lauren’s father, Derrick Heath, about the dangers lurking online, the emotional toll of the investigation, and the moment their nightmare turned into a miracle.
This is the story of Lauren Heath.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hunting for Answers is a production of the Black Effect
Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Welcome to Hunting for Answers, a
true crime podcast. I'm your host Hunter and in this episode,
we're discussing a case out of Monroe, North Carolina, a
small community shaken to its core when a sixteen year
(00:24):
old girl vanished without warning. Her disappearance would ignite a
desperate search stretch across multiple states and expose a chilling
truth about the dangers lurking on the internet. We spoke
with her father, who walked us through the terrifying weeks
of the investigation, the emotional reunion with his daughter, and
(00:48):
their path towards healing in the Afterpath.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
This is the story of Lauren Heath.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
October thirteenth, twenty twenty three began like any other day,
but for the Heath family, it quickly turned into every
parent's first nightmare.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I would say, you know, like a month or two prior,
you know, my wife and I had noticed, you know,
changing her.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
She seemed to be a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Withdrawing, so to speak, not talking a lot. Because she
was playing volleyball at her previous high school and she
was a cheerleader but I remember seeing her in a
phone call from her she leaving head coach there at
a camp saying how much my daughter was so withdrawn
from the team, not interacting, you know, with their teammates,
(01:42):
not talking, want to be by herself. And they even
asked her that night when she called me, like, hey,
do you want me come get you if you're not
comfortable being there? She's like, no, I'm gonna stick it out,
because you know, as parents will always tell our kids,
if you start something, finish it. But it was several
conversations that my daughter would have, like when I would
take her to school, she always would make the comment
(02:03):
like she feels like she's somebody else's friend, but they're
not her so to speak, like she's trying too hard
and they're not reciprocated. What's needing a good solid friendship?
And I say, hey, you know, don't take it personal.
You know, just as parents we tell our kids, you know,
it's life. It's part of growing up, especially being a teenager,
especially being young females to go through a lot of changes,
(02:26):
and you know, they pick and choose friends from week
to week, could be day to day.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Bring camera footage showed Lauren leaving her home in Indian Trail,
North Carolina. There were no warning signs, no goodbye, just
a quiet exit into the unknown. Her father, Gary Keith,
recalls noticing changes in Lauren in the week's prior. Like
(02:52):
many teens, she began struggling, but he now sees the signs.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
They mess But it's one thing my wife and I,
you know, regret doing. It's not I mean, we heard
her daughter, heard our daughter, but we didn't like fully listen.
You know, when you're like your kids are crying out constantly,
it's easy for us as parents to say, hey, go
to school, wear that crown strongly ahead, be strong, be yourself.
(03:20):
But when you got to live in that world five
days a week, for seven and a half hours a day,
it's different. And you know that's my wife and I
looking back on that, we wish we would have really
delved deeply more into that, you know, while she was
expressing about her being withdrawn everything like that, but you know,
you know, I think that was part of it. You know,
(03:42):
the the friendships weren't a solid that she might have wanted.
She would say telling us things like kids were saying
certain things to her and make her feel down or depressed,
and she lost her self esteem, so to speak. So
I think that's what led up to her disappearance. I
felt like she just wanted to just drop it all
(04:05):
and just go away.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Despite her challenges, Lauren was excited about her school's upcoming
homecoming dance.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
She had a nail appointment scheduled and.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Was looking forward to the event, hardly the actions of
someone planning to heat. That's what made her disappearance all
the more alarming. This wasn't like Lauren. Her behavior didn't
match someone who wanted to just disappear. As hours turned
(04:37):
into days, Hannick settled in. The seconds dragged like hours,
and the longer she was gone, the worse the fear became.
But the Heath family wasn't alone. The Monroe community rallied together.
(04:57):
Candlelight viguals were held blanketed neighborhoods. Billboards appeared in North Carolina,
South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, and Virginia. Lauren's face became
impossible to miss, But despite the overwhelming support, the silence
(05:21):
was deafening. Lauren's parents spoke out to her in every
public message, Come home, we love you. There's no obstacle
too big to bring you back. Still, one thing was unmistakable.
The police response in those critical early days was dismissive.
(05:45):
Like many cases involving missing black girls, Lauren's disappearance didn't
trigger the kind of urgency it deserved.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Initially when she went missing on the thirteenth, of course,
we made a police report and the police were so
nonchalant about it. It was just like here we go again,
another missing child. So you know, we'd write it down
and he was kind of nonchalot about it with you know,
kind of got out of my skin with my wife
(06:14):
and I and he just kind of took it and
just left and like, hey, we really need to hear something,
you know about this case.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Like so that was on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We my wife and I had to literally go down
to the police station first thing Monday morning and helped
get a detective assigned to the case. So two whole
days had gone by with nothing, and I even called
the dispatch and see about follow up because it was
asking me about her cell phone on what selles service
did we use and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Her father told us plainly, if it weren't for the community,
stepping up. There's no telling where the case would stand.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Re union response was awesome. You know, my neighbors in
my neighborhood went out looking. My neighbor across the street.
She was awesome because she said she knew this house
where a lot of teenagers would go and just hang
out and just drink blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
She went there.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So the community response was awesome those first two days
she went miss up until the time my wife and
I had to go to the police station, and luckily
it worked out. The chief of police I used to
coach his son in football, so when he saw me,
he told his detective like, hey, anything he wants, you
(07:37):
make sure he gets it. So it pays to know
people like I tell people, don't burn your bridges because
you never know you might need somebody.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So once I got to him, it was a lot better.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
The detective was very responsive to us about you know,
any type of leaves or anything. We had people down
the street. Lady she has a farm down the street.
She even offered, like her ATV to like go out
and look you know out you know, in the community
or whatever. So the community response was awesome. You know,
(08:12):
we made flyers. People were come by and your flyers
and put them up for us. There's this little biker
house down the street. They had cameras, but they might
have thought she might have, you know, left from They
let us go down. They look at their cameras, but
it was overwhelming the response that we received from the community, even.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
With tips pouring in, time tap slipping away, no breakthroughs,
no confirmed sightings, no real leads, just a growing sense
that Lauren might be getting further and further away. Then,
nearly two weeks later, Hope arrived in Kirkwood, Missouri. Police
(08:55):
officers investigating a suspicious vehicle parked outside a Low's made
a discovery that would bring this nightmare to a shock
and turning point. Inside the car was a thirty year
old convicted sex offender, and in the passenger seat sixteen
year old Laurenn Heath. Authorities learned that the man had
(09:17):
been communicating with Lauren through an anonymous messaging app. He
exploited her emotional vulnerability, manipulated her with false promises, and
drove all the way from Oklahoma to North Carolina to
pick her up. She was carrying her birth certificate and
(09:38):
had even memorized her mother's phone number, details that ultimately
helped police confirm her identity and notify her parents.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Having those conversations with your child or children about social
media because like I said, it's a beast.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
It's like I said, it's a gift in the curse.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And you know, you have these apps that have been
created where it looks like one thing, but it's something
else where they little children.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
They I know it's one app. I know, the FBI
was showing us.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
It looks like a calculator, but behind it it's a
way that these predators talk to children.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, so it was the particular app. I don't think
they even have it anymore. It's called Whisper. That was
the main culport in this case. It's almost like the
dark web, so to speak. Behind these apps, because these
predators have ways of getting to children, whether it be
online I know, and speaking with people.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I know.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
The police officers showed me down the street how these
they would change their voice online to sound like a child,
and you think you're playing with another twelve year old
and it comes out it's somebody forty or fifty years old.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
They use this, you know, this voice altering like headset and.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
That's like so I would tell my kids, you know,
you have to be careful. You know who you're on
line with. Less you're just your close friends from school
and somebody you know personally. Don't talk to him.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
The moment the call came in, Lauren's parents dropped to
their knees. Relief overwhelmed them. They didn't even put on
the proper shoes before rushing to the airport to catch
the first flight to Missouri.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
When they were reunited with their.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Daughter, it felt, mister Heath said, like holding a newborn
for the second time. And though joy filled the reunion,
the trauma lingered and the road to healing would.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Be next.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
The first I would say. She came on October twenty fifth.
I would say probably until maybe four or five months
after that, it was still a struggle trying to get her.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
The focus and open up.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Of course, we did immediately get her into therapy when
still it now that has helped out tremendously. I will
say she's come a long way since then. She's in
a new high school. She's cheering, she loves it, she's
making new friends. So I believe this new high school
has done her leaps and bounds of getting herself a
(12:23):
stayed back making new friends because, like I said, her
previous high school, for whatever reason, just was not the
place for her.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Lauren came home on October twenty fifth, twenty twenty three,
but in the days and months that followed, her family
would face a new set of challenges. Therapy became a
part of the healing process. A new high school brought
a fresh start, but emotionally, her father described it as
(12:52):
life altering.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It changes you as a person, he said. We used
to beat ourselves up up, but we know we're good parents.
One thing they are absolutely certain of Lauren was not
to blame. She was coerced and groomed by a sick individual.
Mister Heath said, she's the victim and she needs to
(13:18):
know this isn't her fault. According to investigators, predators like
this pray on children expressing vulnerability online. They scan for
keywords emotional distress and then pose as saviors only to
lead their victims into unimaginable danger.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
In fact, I just spoke to the federal prosecutor yesterday
because with him having federal charges and also state charges,
with him crossing state lines with our daughter. There's so
much they have to get worked out far as the
charges and get what to plea to for him. So
it's kind of like in a holding past. He's what
(14:01):
I do know, he would never see.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
The light of day.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Thankfully, Lauren's story ends with a reunion with her family,
but for far too many other families, that call never
comes in, that moment of relief never arrives.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Because my wife and I you know, talk about all
the time like we were truly blessed to get our
daughter back. But I know when I look at and
I still part of black and Missing and all these
missing children sites, always repost and share every kid that
comes across my timeline because I know exactly how those
parents feel. So I can only imagine if your child's
(14:39):
been missing for months or years, you know what type
of you know, mental state those parents are in. The
best advice I can give parents with children that are
missing is to stay relentless and get closure to your situation.
Because I told my wife, I said, regardless of what
(15:03):
happens with our daughter, I just want to know that
I never quit to parents. Like I said, there's no
handbook to this, to being a parent. You can be
the best parent in the world, and if something tragedy
like this does happen, you can't ever doubt yourself as
a parent. If you'd have told me this would happened
to my family, I was like, you're crazy. That will
(15:23):
never happen to my daughter. But like I said, nobody's
immune to this. Nobody. Biggest thing for me as a
father is to be more of a listener to her
rather try to tell her how to feel, you know,
because she has the right to feel the way she
wants to, like anybody else, regardless of them being your children.
(15:43):
So I think that's the biggest thing for me, is
to really let her be herself and her feelings and
try to work it out through her lens and not mind.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
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Speaker 2 (16:19):
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Hunting for Answers is a production of the Black Effect
Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Welcome to Hunting for Answers, a
true crime podcast. I'm your host Hunter and in this episode,
we're discussing a case out of Monroe, North Carolina, a
small community shaken to its core when a sixteen year
(00:24):
old girl vanished without warning. Her disappearance would ignite a
desperate search stretch across multiple states and expose a chilling
truth about the dangers lurking on the internet. We spoke
with her father, who walked us through the terrifying weeks
of the investigation, the emotional reunion with his daughter, and
(00:48):
their path towards healing in the Afterpath.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
This is the story of Lauren Heath.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
October thirteenth, twenty twenty three began like any other day,
but for the Heath family, it quickly turned into every
parent's first nightmare.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I would say, you know, like a month or two prior,
you know, my wife and I had noticed, you know,
changing her.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
She seemed to be a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Withdrawing, so to speak, not talking a lot. Because she
was playing volleyball at her previous high school and she
was a cheerleader but I remember seeing her in a
phone call from her she leaving head coach there at
a camp saying how much my daughter was so withdrawn
from the team, not interacting, you know, with their teammates,
(01:42):
not talking, want to be by herself. And they even
asked her that night when she called me, like, hey,
do you want me come get you if you're not
comfortable being there? She's like, no, I'm gonna stick it out,
because you know, as parents will always tell our kids,
if you start something, finish it. But it was several
conversations that my daughter would have, like when I would
take her to school, she always would make the comment
(02:03):
like she feels like she's somebody else's friend, but they're
not her so to speak, like she's trying too hard
and they're not reciprocated. What's needing a good solid friendship?
And I say, hey, you know, don't take it personal.
You know, just as parents we tell our kids, you know,
it's life. It's part of growing up, especially being a teenager,
especially being young females to go through a lot of changes,
(02:26):
and you know, they pick and choose friends from week
to week, could be day to day.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Bring camera footage showed Lauren leaving her home in Indian Trail,
North Carolina. There were no warning signs, no goodbye, just
a quiet exit into the unknown. Her father, Gary Keith,
recalls noticing changes in Lauren in the week's prior. Like
(02:52):
many teens, she began struggling, but he now sees the signs.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
They mess But it's one thing my wife and I,
you know, regret doing. It's not I mean, we heard
her daughter, heard our daughter, but we didn't like fully listen.
You know, when you're like your kids are crying out constantly,
it's easy for us as parents to say, hey, go
to school, wear that crown strongly ahead, be strong, be yourself.
(03:20):
But when you got to live in that world five
days a week, for seven and a half hours a day,
it's different. And you know that's my wife and I
looking back on that, we wish we would have really
delved deeply more into that, you know, while she was
expressing about her being withdrawn everything like that, but you know,
you know, I think that was part of it. You know,
(03:42):
the the friendships weren't a solid that she might have wanted.
She would say telling us things like kids were saying
certain things to her and make her feel down or depressed,
and she lost her self esteem, so to speak. So
I think that's what led up to her disappearance. I
felt like she just wanted to just drop it all
(04:05):
and just go away.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Despite her challenges, Lauren was excited about her school's upcoming
homecoming dance.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
She had a nail appointment scheduled and.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Was looking forward to the event, hardly the actions of
someone planning to heat. That's what made her disappearance all
the more alarming. This wasn't like Lauren. Her behavior didn't
match someone who wanted to just disappear. As hours turned
(04:37):
into days, Hannick settled in. The seconds dragged like hours,
and the longer she was gone, the worse the fear became.
But the Heath family wasn't alone. The Monroe community rallied together.
(04:57):
Candlelight viguals were held blanketed neighborhoods. Billboards appeared in North Carolina,
South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, and Virginia. Lauren's face became
impossible to miss, But despite the overwhelming support, the silence
(05:21):
was deafening. Lauren's parents spoke out to her in every
public message, Come home, we love you. There's no obstacle
too big to bring you back. Still, one thing was unmistakable.
The police response in those critical early days was dismissive.
(05:45):
Like many cases involving missing black girls, Lauren's disappearance didn't
trigger the kind of urgency it deserved.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Initially when she went missing on the thirteenth, of course,
we made a police report and the police were so
nonchalant about it. It was just like here we go again,
another missing child. So you know, we'd write it down
and he was kind of nonchalot about it with you know,
kind of got out of my skin with my wife
(06:14):
and I and he just kind of took it and
just left and like, hey, we really need to hear something,
you know about this case.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Like so that was on a Friday.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We my wife and I had to literally go down
to the police station first thing Monday morning and helped
get a detective assigned to the case. So two whole
days had gone by with nothing, and I even called
the dispatch and see about follow up because it was
asking me about her cell phone on what selles service
did we use and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Her father told us plainly, if it weren't for the community,
stepping up. There's no telling where the case would stand.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Re union response was awesome. You know, my neighbors in
my neighborhood went out looking. My neighbor across the street.
She was awesome because she said she knew this house
where a lot of teenagers would go and just hang
out and just drink blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
She went there.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So the community response was awesome those first two days
she went miss up until the time my wife and
I had to go to the police station, and luckily
it worked out. The chief of police I used to
coach his son in football, so when he saw me,
he told his detective like, hey, anything he wants, you
(07:37):
make sure he gets it. So it pays to know
people like I tell people, don't burn your bridges because
you never know you might need somebody.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So once I got to him, it was a lot better.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
The detective was very responsive to us about you know,
any type of leaves or anything. We had people down
the street. Lady she has a farm down the street.
She even offered, like her ATV to like go out
and look you know out you know, in the community
or whatever. So the community response was awesome. You know,
(08:12):
we made flyers. People were come by and your flyers
and put them up for us. There's this little biker
house down the street. They had cameras, but they might
have thought she might have, you know, left from They
let us go down. They look at their cameras, but
it was overwhelming the response that we received from the community, even.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
With tips pouring in, time tap slipping away, no breakthroughs,
no confirmed sightings, no real leads, just a growing sense
that Lauren might be getting further and further away. Then,
nearly two weeks later, Hope arrived in Kirkwood, Missouri. Police
(08:55):
officers investigating a suspicious vehicle parked outside a Low's made
a discovery that would bring this nightmare to a shock
and turning point. Inside the car was a thirty year
old convicted sex offender, and in the passenger seat sixteen
year old Laurenn Heath. Authorities learned that the man had
(09:17):
been communicating with Lauren through an anonymous messaging app. He
exploited her emotional vulnerability, manipulated her with false promises, and
drove all the way from Oklahoma to North Carolina to
pick her up. She was carrying her birth certificate and
(09:38):
had even memorized her mother's phone number, details that ultimately
helped police confirm her identity and notify her parents.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Having those conversations with your child or children about social
media because like I said, it's a beast.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
It's like I said, it's a gift in the curse.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And you know, you have these apps that have been
created where it looks like one thing, but it's something
else where they little children.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
They I know it's one app. I know, the FBI
was showing us.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
It looks like a calculator, but behind it it's a
way that these predators talk to children.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, so it was the particular app. I don't think
they even have it anymore. It's called Whisper. That was
the main culport in this case. It's almost like the
dark web, so to speak. Behind these apps, because these
predators have ways of getting to children, whether it be
online I know, and speaking with people.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I know.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
The police officers showed me down the street how these
they would change their voice online to sound like a child,
and you think you're playing with another twelve year old
and it comes out it's somebody forty or fifty years old.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
They use this, you know, this voice altering like headset and.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
That's like so I would tell my kids, you know,
you have to be careful. You know who you're on
line with. Less you're just your close friends from school
and somebody you know personally. Don't talk to him.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
The moment the call came in, Lauren's parents dropped to
their knees. Relief overwhelmed them. They didn't even put on
the proper shoes before rushing to the airport to catch
the first flight to Missouri.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
When they were reunited with their.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Daughter, it felt, mister Heath said, like holding a newborn
for the second time. And though joy filled the reunion,
the trauma lingered and the road to healing would.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Be next.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
The first I would say. She came on October twenty fifth.
I would say probably until maybe four or five months
after that, it was still a struggle trying to get her.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
The focus and open up.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Of course, we did immediately get her into therapy when
still it now that has helped out tremendously. I will
say she's come a long way since then. She's in
a new high school. She's cheering, she loves it, she's
making new friends. So I believe this new high school
has done her leaps and bounds of getting herself a
(12:23):
stayed back making new friends because, like I said, her
previous high school, for whatever reason, just was not the
place for her.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Lauren came home on October twenty fifth, twenty twenty three,
but in the days and months that followed, her family
would face a new set of challenges. Therapy became a
part of the healing process. A new high school brought
a fresh start, but emotionally, her father described it as
(12:52):
life altering.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It changes you as a person, he said. We used
to beat ourselves up up, but we know we're good parents.
One thing they are absolutely certain of Lauren was not
to blame. She was coerced and groomed by a sick individual.
Mister Heath said, she's the victim and she needs to
(13:18):
know this isn't her fault. According to investigators, predators like
this pray on children expressing vulnerability online. They scan for
keywords emotional distress and then pose as saviors only to
lead their victims into unimaginable danger.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
In fact, I just spoke to the federal prosecutor yesterday
because with him having federal charges and also state charges,
with him crossing state lines with our daughter. There's so
much they have to get worked out far as the
charges and get what to plea to for him. So
it's kind of like in a holding past. He's what
(14:01):
I do know, he would never see.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
The light of day.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Thankfully, Lauren's story ends with a reunion with her family,
but for far too many other families, that call never
comes in, that moment of relief never arrives.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Because my wife and I you know, talk about all
the time like we were truly blessed to get our
daughter back. But I know when I look at and
I still part of black and Missing and all these
missing children sites, always repost and share every kid that
comes across my timeline because I know exactly how those
parents feel. So I can only imagine if your child's
(14:39):
been missing for months or years, you know what type
of you know, mental state those parents are in. The
best advice I can give parents with children that are
missing is to stay relentless and get closure to your situation.
Because I told my wife, I said, regardless of what
(15:03):
happens with our daughter, I just want to know that
I never quit to parents. Like I said, there's no
handbook to this, to being a parent. You can be
the best parent in the world, and if something tragedy
like this does happen, you can't ever doubt yourself as
a parent. If you'd have told me this would happened
to my family, I was like, you're crazy. That will
(15:23):
never happen to my daughter. But like I said, nobody's
immune to this. Nobody. Biggest thing for me as a
father is to be more of a listener to her
rather try to tell her how to feel, you know,
because she has the right to feel the way she
wants to, like anybody else, regardless of them being your children.
(15:43):
So I think that's the biggest thing for me, is
to really let her be herself and her feelings and
try to work it out through her lens and not mind.
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Speaker 2 (16:19):
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Speaker 1 (16:23):
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