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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Every day up waiting, click your ass up the breakfast Club.
You don't finish for y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Done morning, everybody in stej Envy just hilarious.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Charlamagne the guy, we are the breakfast club law the
Roses here as well. We got a special guest in
the building.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yes, indeed, at least a Dick.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Welcome, brother Man, good, thank you, thank y'all for having
me back. I'm good Man, got a toy, he said
in The Shadows tour kicks off August twenty second in
Lantic City. Yep, we back on it. You know, I
took six weeks off and now I'm coming back. So yeah,
how much do you write Ali oh Man? Every every
other day? It gotta be right every other day.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Because I was watching two Suns two Sundays an hour
and twenty minutes long.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, that was That's the easy part by my family,
because I know him. You know, I don't have to
I don't have to really write nothing with that. I
just have to structure it, you know how much? How
I mucha say it? And then you know, Rugged was
a little bit more. No program that I had to
really write out Rugged to know which stories I was
gonna say. And how I was gonna say them, and
(01:06):
the time, like I try to write everything in chronological order. Yeah,
so you know that's the that's the and that's the
hard part of it. If I if I forget a story,
then I gotta go back. Now it's like this Nigga
line because it don't match the timeline.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
So when you go out on the in the shadows
to how much of that material.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Do you use it?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
You just leave all of that on YouTube and you
just got something brand new.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So in the Shadows now is the is the news?
The news specials that I'm shooting in February and DC.
So I'm gonna shoot three new specials in February and
d C. I just shot three in Detroit in October.
So we got five specials in the can that we
can drive much material? Man, yeah jesus yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
So do you feel like breaking down the business? I
just want to know how that translates into dollars?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh, it's like how many like the whole program? The
whole program?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So how a special translates from Okay, so let me
start with this. I'm always insulted when somebody say they
saw me on Netflix because I'm like, no, you did
not know Netflix. You saw me on YouTube because I'm independent.
So what happens is I shoot, I shoot the special,
so you I get paid for doing it. Because I
(02:24):
only shoot when I'm on tour. So I shoot in
the places that I'm performing. I'm not oh, let me
pick some day and shoot somewhere else. I'm doing the
specially because I'm ready. When I got to Detroit, I
was ready for the three specials, so we sold out
the three shows that we did. So we do two
shows for each special, so that's six that's six paydays
(02:46):
just to shoot it. So then after I shoot it,
I premier it on a different platform for my immediate fans.
So now that I'm at a million followers on YouTube,
that's a million people that's that have the possibility of
going to the platform that I put it on to
premiere before anybody else.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Season it could be any platform, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But we do moment.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So then after two months, because I wait two or
three months before I put it on YouTube for free.
So now that that translates into commercial dollars.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So people paid for the watching on the moment, Yes,
and now you do it for commercials.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
But smart so you shoot.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
You said you shot four specials in the last couple
of months, three in the last three months.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
When did you get time to do? You have to
practice your material because like most of the communities was like,
let me try this out. You got to the thing
is you I'm on the road. It's one hundred city tour.
So I'm gonna take the first thirty cities and work
the stories. And then by the time i get the
city number forty, that's when we're shooting, you know what
(03:54):
I'm saying. So I'm gonna work all these So we
got forty four dates, forty four theaters after you know,
I do already on Wednesday. Because when you take when
you take time off, you have to go to the
minor leagues first, you know, and to come back come
back because I've been I was my how my stories
line up was kind of awful. Little bit. I was
(04:15):
forgetting major parts of the story. I'm like, wow, I
wasn't supposed to say that. Yet people They're like, say, no,
you can't go, and then I had to start staying.
I'm like, let me. It's the part that I forgot
to tell y'all. But it works because I tell stories.
So it's I'm so connected to my audience that they
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wait for it, you know, like and it's a it's
a very special thing that I really that I really
think is cool because you know, I transitioned after what
I've been doing standing up twenty eight years in December.
It'll be twenty eight years in December. So how I
used to be when I look back at how I've
(04:56):
gotten to this point, you know, is crazy. Now I'm recap.
I'm going into how I got to this point now
in the new specials how I even started? Because people
will say that somebody wrote years ago that I started
in prison, and I try to and I keep trying
to clean this up. I did not start. There's no
comedy clubs. Most people work out in prison.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
You didn't comedy.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I know somebody I don't know who wrote that initially,
and it's been sticking. So every time I get in
of you, So you started in prison, there's no comedy
club between the child and the reck yard. Well, I'm like, yo, everybody,
come ahead, I'm gonna get it done. No, it was
more like the first two years I was wild, and
(05:43):
I give I give it that I was. I was
on prison time. It wasn't even surviving. It was oh man, okay.
So they used to have this. They used to have
a mop bucket with the handle. Me and probably some
other people at the reason. They took the handle off
so the Mexicans would cut the handle off and turn
(06:06):
it into knives. I got into it with a dude
and I dropped him, and then I went to the
third floor. I was so mad, I was violent. I
went to the third floor. I filled my bucket up
with water and I dropped it down on him. You
know what I'm saying, So huh.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Not a bucket.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Of water. I dropped the bucket and everything on And
to do that you got to have a handle. Doing
it like this is a little awkward, but yeah, I was.
I was on one. I was.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I was for you to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Man stole your chips and no, damn. I had a
problem with people talking reckless like That's why I didn't
play dominoes, because see, people, people lose their mouth in dominoes.
So we playing and I told him, I said, hey, man,
I don't want to play because y'all don't know how
to talk. Right now, we ain't gonna say nothing. So
then we playing dominos and I called ten and then
(07:05):
the next thing, I know, ten inches in you and
then I just got it. Don't even worry about it.
Don't even worry about it, don't even see this. This
is what I said. I said, I don't do this,
and I just mean I lost it, and and people knew.
We was like, like, oh boy, you about to you
(07:25):
about you might want to go put your boots on.
But this little boy is a wild man like. And
I figured out, look, you see how I can't take
all that. And the thing is, I figured out that
most people can't fight hand in hand. I've been boxing
since I was six. So I was like, Yo, it
don't matter how big York, I ain't gonna wait class.
(07:47):
You know what I'm saying. It's like, if you're trying
to do something, let's do it. But in now you
have to check somebody chin. You know what I'm saying
about everything, and it and it just came too came
too much for me. So about two years in, his
old head told me, he said, yo, man, you can't
keep living like this. Because I was like, yo, I
(08:07):
would be on that basketball court. And this is where
I say, eighty five percent of my fight starle on
that court. Know what I'm saying, get undercutted. We were
doing I'm doing you dirty on that court, and all
of a sudden your mouth and went crazy, and I
just all right, no, no, I'm waiting. I'm like, soon
as we get back to this block is on and
(08:28):
I'll just butt you on your head and oh man,
a can, a can of tuna and a pair of socks.
You can get the work done. Nineteen when I went,
he was young. Yeah, so nineteen four days after after
I turned nineteen hours I was gone.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
We do that with locks in high school.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Put the lock, put you put your lock on your belt.
The compilation. Now you put that on a loop of
your belt. You get, Yeah, you get the swing. The
swing is pretty good too, though you gotta wrap it.
The swing is swing is pretty good. All those people
that you beat up in jail, they never came back
at you never see them at your shows, like you
remember me. I'm the one that you man, you know,
(09:08):
it's wild. It's more dudes that I beat up in
high school that be on one than anything. I was
just and and at this function, I had to I'm
gonna say this publicly because I always say if you
if you disrespect somebody a lowd, you gotta homeboy, you
gotta you gotta apologize, you gotta apologize loud. So DJ Scratch,
(09:30):
I'm quite sure you know him. Scratch, Yeah, DJ, the
real Scratch. So I'm it's my last day of vacation.
I'm having a good time, you know what I'm saying.
Then he's back there doing his mix. I'm like, and
I'm on the mic. I don't want hear that. I
won't hear everything from the South. I don't want hear
nothing all that. I don't want to hear none of it.
(09:52):
And scar faces like yo yeah, and scar faces like
this yo lead Chuck rockets on the side. Oh it's
on and I'm if it's a video of it out,
but I had already apologized for the video came out
and Scratches.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Like Scratch down.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now and I'm I'm wilding, and I'm like, yo, I
don't want to hear nothing. So he yeah, man, I
don't want.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
To hear this ship.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I don't want I'm on one because just okay, this
thing and you just got back from Italy. You don't
want to find out that you got a possible for
dinner and saying, I just got back from the East Coast.
I don't hear nothing East Coast because y'all don't play
enough South up here for me. So I'm like, I
don't want to be I don't want to be at
fifty fifteen in the South. I'm in Houston on my
block and I'm here here none of that. I don't
(10:42):
hear none of it. And I'm wilding you at the
club in Houston, and I'm wilding and scratches like, yo,
he's stopped the muse, Yo you they ain't hearing the transitions.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Dude, Man, I don't care nothing about that. Play fat
pack key slim power wall, I'm saying, a man, And
how that stopped?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Scarface just looking at me like because he brought the
one brought me over there. I was at a whole
other club having a good time. He said, Yo, Lee,
come over. It's the wooler Ridge Reunion nineties union. Lee
come over here. So me special ed and be fine
and we walk over and man, after soon as I
(11:28):
heard the transition, I was like, I don't want it.
I don't want it, and scratch y'all, man, you're talking
all over my stuff. Like, man, I don't give damn
about that, and but I won't apologize. No, no, I
wrote him a text. He'll show people the text I
wrote him. Yo, I'm talking of the next day, my
(11:50):
man was like, yo, boy, you was on one that May,
and he showed me the video. I said, man, name me,
let me scratch. I said, yo, bro, My apologized, Man,
I was on one. And then the video starts circulating.
But these people don't know how I apologized. I got
to see this video that yo, and you just and
I know I was spastic because when scar Face told
(12:13):
me the chill, I just gave it the mic and
I looked at the crowd like that, like, don't nobody knew?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
And he's like, okay, the crowd into it before you
got on the micro.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Man, I'm not going through all that. I'm just I apologize.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You want to apologize about it?
Speaker 7 (12:32):
When add the video circulated, this get mad all over again.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I don't know. I both went in, but I know
I apologize way early. Look now, Envy looking it up here,
something my something, my apologies, but then the video wasn't
not yet thought it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I'm like, man, that's my type of carrying on.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But I always, but I already apologize, you know what
I'm saying. And I looked at my press cut. I said, okay,
Breakfast Club, you gotta be a good one again. You
got on the stage, Yo, I'm already on the state.
Don't do that. And I was already on the stage.
Look he right next to him. Yo, who was you drinking?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I don't want it?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
What the yo? But the okay, y'all got.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
No mi yo, it's my last day vaking.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
You see.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Oh man, here's the thing, man, I feel like leaves paying.
I love DJ Scratch, but I have been in South
Carolina where you got a DJ from New York And
when they do m O P and they keep going,
at least.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Play the song.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
They just keep doing that. Yeah, man, n V he
vy ain't here here DJ. He's like, yo, you bob
that Wow. I don't even understand. And I used to
be I used to a record do you know the
first time? You know, that was my first time at him.
But you know, I know his work. You know, I
(14:41):
used to run a record pool, keep playing record. He
would have beat it all up secause we would trying
to jump out leave thre He was just some drug
here that he would have came out with boxing and
it was somebody scarface gave me the mic. I'm already
on the mic, but that would have been bad though,
(15:02):
because it was it was it was no bro, we
in let me, let mean give me. I'm I'm gonna
put this outdea, I'm playing. I remember the last time
a dude said something to me in the club, and
that's same club fifty fifteen, and the cops told him, yo,
(15:23):
you are not going to survive this, and he ain't
even gonna tell you. Do you see that man ain't
said nothing. I'm just looking at him like this and
everybody behind him and see that. They're like, bro, do
you understand where you are? You are in third ward?
That man got a house right down the street and
you're on his block. It's no way to run, It's
(15:43):
no like it's once. Once we get out of this club,
there's nowhere too high You on me the block, like,
but just make sure the apology is sick.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Trying to he don't see.
Speaker 9 (16:01):
What's going on at first, But did you see face
face face really face said face pulled me to the side,
like yo, lead, hey man, I brought you over here.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I was like, but I was having a good time
while I was at You brought me over here and
asked me to get on the mic, and then I
was flying with I was fired with Blasters DJ. You
know what I'm saying, def jam blast with DJ. It
was all type. I was here, fat pant, I was there,
and then I ain't. I'm like, Nigga, No, I ain't
feeling this, not right now. I was you apologize, but
(16:43):
I did apologize scratch DJ scratch. I humbly apologized for
stepping on your transitions, and he was what I did?
You ain't here the technique and all I'm like, yeah
about that? I want the south side, south side? Yeah
(17:05):
about this?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Applied the vice pamphlet, Man.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Man, Man, don't call I was pamp, you know, talking,
I see what I'm doing. I called him for publishing.
I called him for publishing connected man, and people ain't
hit me back or nothing. I ain't look like a
black publishing that he like, look at it, look look
at the other bookie. Yeah heart, I could have did
(17:28):
it in hard back myself. Why you do his like
I want to?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
It?
Speaker 10 (17:31):
Ain't hold on, damn, never hit me back.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Eighty six Family I'm the best, cold bloody he said, yeah,
you talk me. Tell me about this pamphlet. Then it's
a whole there's a whole book with a Skew number
and everything on like that, got a I got a car,
We got a table of context. Tell us about your man.
I don't want to say nothing. Tell me about your bro.
Speaker 11 (18:06):
Sure, the States of America.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, but it's cold.
Speaker 11 (18:15):
It's apt of advice.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, it's the it's the you know, people always ask me,
i'll leave, how did you get from point A to
point B? And I say, well, these are the thirteen
people that I listen to their advice. You know a
lot of times people give you an asked for advice
and they never use it. They get mad at you
when something don't work out. Like what I'll try to
tell you, you know what I'm saying. So my mom,
(18:39):
you know she's in there, My mom, my dad's in there.
Dick Gregory Bruce Bruce d Q. Yeah, Rob, Rob Stapleton
is that. Rob Stapleton is a huge reason. You know,
I remember when Rob Stapleton called me out of nowhere.
It's like when them calls, you just get it. It's
(19:00):
maybe six Rob Stables and calls like, Yo, you got
to get out them chilling circuit rooms. I said, what
you know, but I'm making pretty good money in these
chilling circuit room He said, bright, it don't matter. You
are too talented to just be in those chilling circuit rooms.
You should go to the mainstream. Room said now you're
(19:24):
gonna have to take a pay cut. You're gonna have
to take a huge pay cut, but it's gonna work
out for you. Two weeks later, malik As calls me
and DL wants a host at the Houston impriv which
I headlined this club before, for one night. And I'm like,
(19:46):
I go back as the host. I'm like, man, what
they paying. He's like fifty dollars what I said per
per show And he's like yeah, so and I'm thinking, man,
I make way more money than that. And then Rob
Stable popping in my head. So then I take the
(20:06):
gig DL. I do the show with DL. Then he
asked me, yo, what you got next week? I said,
I'm chilling. I ain't got nothing. So he takes me
to Austin. It's probably four white, it's probably four black
people in the whole building. You know what, I'm saying,
and three of them in the green room me, DL
and Derreck, Keena and one guy that's a waiter do
(20:29):
that show with him. I do off and on with
DL for two thousand and six, two thousand and seven.
DL becomes a host of Death Jam. In two thousand
and eight, I'm on the show. I'm the season finale.
You know what I'm saying. That year, I remember because
it was a season finale, the Wire and Death Jam
the same at the same time. Then I just the clubs.
(20:51):
I'm in the clubs and I'm doing an hour in
front of d L and DL coming to an hour ten.
It's just two man shows after that. So it's like
the training and being with DL taught me how to
be very classy in my approach to how dealt with
the gms, how that with the managers, how deal with
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the wait staff, you know, because when you think about it,
the clubs promote from within, so that that that waitress
that you mistreated, now she's the manager of the club,
you know what I'm saying. Or like the like the
big shot to Raymond Cook he is he runs all
(21:32):
of the improvs in Texas. Raymond was a server when
I came to the m prov but now he's the
head guy, you know, because they want they want you
to know the ins and outs of the whole entire business.
So people go there and they some comics go and
they mistreat these people, you know what I'm saying, and
don't know what there'll be six years down the road.
(21:55):
The five years down the road and they and young comics. Man,
that's on the road with other people. They didn't start
becoming elitist because they thinking that who you're featuring for,
that's not you, you know what I'm saying, Like they
I hear these young comics. Oh man, you and clubs.
(22:16):
You know how much bread you can make in the club?
You must say, because you've never headlined the club, so
you don't know what the check looked like, you know
what I'm saying. So I know Baltimore. When I came
to Baltimore Comedy Factory, we did eight sold out shows.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
That check was so crazy, and I was like, yeah,
I don't want to do no, no, I'm good, and
dudes like, yo, you can do this. Every time, I said,
every time, I realized how.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Much money comedians making them clubs and don't realize how
well comedians are living.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Like they y'all be balling.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, we Yeah. It's some people that you know that
came to the crib and they was like, so this
this this is you. I got like six of these,
like you got six properties. Yeah, I can stay all
over Houston, you know what I'm saying, Hey, this is
your car, this is what this is what we're doing.
(23:14):
And like, yo, but I've been rich a long time.
I've been rich like twice, you knowlegally and illegally, you know,
just legally. Just I just sleep better, you know. So
you know when people be I listen to people on
the internet and people be talking fly like okay, just
put your bread up versus you know, my bread. I'm
(23:37):
talking about liquid. I ain't talking about it, no, and
then my stocks and bonds other things, but you're talking
about liquid. We can put that on the table.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
And that was so funny because if you flip it right,
you got probably comedians who do a lot of stuff
online that people will think, because they're getting all this attention, they.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Got the bread. But it's actually the other way around.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It's it's the comedians that are constantly working in them
clubs that's actually making.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
The money and working period. You know, you can be
a right on a show and be doing well and
a comment that's in the club is still doing better
than you. And then when you when that show was over,
Now you're trying to find work and the guy who's
been on the road is still making a check. You know,
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even when I'm practicing, my bag is crazy. Even when
I'm practicing before I get it, Like I did what
five weeks the all of August, in this first part
of August all in the clubs now the theater. I'm back.
I'm at the Tropicana on Friday. I'm We've been sold
out for what three weeks? Before I even got there,
(24:42):
they said, you want to do another show. I'm like, nah,
I'm cool. I just want to go home. I've been
on the road for nine days. But when I'm all
my checks in my backpack, I don't catch my money
til I get home. I want to go to my
private banker. I want to walk in and watching them
people be this is the type of stuff I get
off on that that people be sitting in there waiting people.
I just walk in and the ladies just like and
(25:04):
I'm like, oh, how long I've been in here. That's
my That's the only thing that I make me happy
is small, you know, luxuries. I don't need nothing. I
don't need nothing big, you know what I'm saying. But ally,
what made you become a comedian? Man? This is what
I think that I was good. And I think that
(25:26):
me wanting people to be happy and learn from stuff
that I was saying was kind of my push because
when people say I started in prison, I was on
closed custody. They made me the SSI on closed custody,
and they ain't had no TV. And so when I
(25:47):
was working over there, these boys been locked They lock
up twenty three hours a day, you know what I'm saying.
They get out just a shower. And they've been back
there a long time. And it started with me just
wanting them to have a food hot. You know. They
would bring this food and it would be cold and
I and I always knew this is why they be
over here tripping because y'all don't give them no clean
(26:08):
clothes and because the difference with clean clothes in the
prisons like this. So I because I'm not on clothes,
because I have the ability to go in there and
lobby for some brand new underwear. And this is this
is when I knew I was never going back to
the prison, because they all your underwears in the webhouse.
You know, they wash them all together. So then you
(26:29):
you got the shower, they just throw you underwear and
several people the water these underwear, you know what I'm saying.
So you get some new ones straight out of the box.
They will never see the laundry again. You keep them
and you wash them out yourself. So they was giving
these dudes the worst underwear because I had to pass
all that stuff. I'm like, yo, I'd be like, yo, no,
(26:50):
somebody that blew satchee, wow. You know what I'm saying,
Say yo, who knew some largest cause? But so I
would went I went to the laundry. I'm like, yo, man,
let me get a box. Let them clean underwell, man
for these dudes. You know what I'm saying, Let me
make sure they fool hot, because y'all not what y'all
(27:12):
not gonna do is throw defecation on me like you
was doing the rest of you. And they was only
doing that because they was getting mistreated. So I started
letting them read the paper because I had I would
read the paper every day. Let him read the paper.
Then I start telling them what was going on in
the unit. And since they ain't had no TV, this
is this is my this was my contribution. I would
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watch Martin so intense because I was gonna go back
and react the whole episode for him because they ain't
had no TV. So after Martin went off, I didn't
have nothing to give them, so I just started doing
commentary about what was going on in the rest of
the prison. I sit there with their broomstick and be like, yo,
(27:57):
it's all three runs and they on the ball, whatever
what else happened? And so did start comedy, But that's
not starting. I started just joking comedy cafe. That wouldn't
That wasn't saying that this is me just telling stories.
But I was. I was very.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Your whole style of storytelling.
Speaker 11 (28:19):
You got a punchline, you just storyteller.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I just you know, reenact the situation. But start for this.
It wasn't comedy then, yeah, you wasn't getting no you know.
So the the other thing about it. So people would
say that I was funny because I would stop a
lot of altercation, Like after the first two years of
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me wild, and my whole mindset was, now, if you're
gonna get beat up, don't go to school, and everybody
know that it's about me. Hey, I'm gonna come to you. Hey, bro,
you what what your education looking like? Because if you
stay in here and you just doing prison stuff, when
you get in the world, you're gonna be back. So
(29:05):
you might want to get a g D. You might
want to get the trade or something, because if you don't,
everybody else on this block goes to school to do
a trade, You're gonna be stealing. You're gonna be still
our people to lock him. I don't want you to
get killed, bro, and go to school. And if you don't,
you know, you know there's a fight gonna come with
(29:25):
this and you you're not gonna fight me. You're gonna
fight Mitch. You're gonna fight Brian. You're gonna and everybody like, yeah, bro,
we go to school over here, and this is the
this is the mandate. When we was on tour regime,
you had to go to school because if you didn't,
your your mind is gonna drift into something crazy. But
(29:45):
when people tried to fight, I was just rastionally, just
come over, I'm like, hey, y'all, y'all about to fight? Like, man,
what you want? I said, Bro, I'm just can I
ask a question? Damn y'all staff? So I just want
to ask, Okay, y'all about to fight, which one of
y'all are willing to lose this fight twice? Wait? What
the hell you're talking about? I said, because one of
(30:06):
y'all gonna win. One y'all gonna win for sure, and
then the CEO's are gonna come in and beat the
ship out of both y'all. So who want to lose twice?
People started laughing, Then they started thinking about it, like, yeah,
that's what's going happen, like yo, and this is something major, bruh.
It's not worth it because them CEOs man, you know
(30:28):
it's I always think about it like this, you know,
on on Bugs Bunny, when he would hit that dudo
on the head, they ask you how many lumps you want?
One or two? They gonna give you six that stick,
that stick and then choking you out and all that.
And I'll just be sitting there, look look at you
that Look at you getting choked. Now, I told you
over there, you ain't have to get all that you
(30:50):
have to get drugs. You're looking bad, man, And when
they bring you back, it's like, look at your head
and I ain't and I ain't gonna ease up. Look
at your head in that. See I warned you.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
So you went from the one while to teaching, and
then you also seem like you did a lot of
like mental work with yourself as well.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Like what makes you angry now? Like does anything make
you mean? Oh man, this is this is where the
work really happened. D scratch playing after that years later?
Right now? Did scratch? That was? That was? I was
just wild. But this is what makes me upset now
that I'm trapped in this present of always having to
(31:34):
let sucker dudes make it. You know what I'm saying.
You know, it's always I leave you better than that.
But that's the that's the problem. I dudes keep being
suckers because they always somebody always talking somebody down from
you know, putting hand so and incarcerated. You got. You
(31:55):
can't say nothing false about somebody and not have to
see You can't be running your face and then not
have to see that person and you can't. It's like
it's people in this society don't understand consequences. So you
can say whatever you want to say and be disrespectful
on that Internet and be disrespectful interviews and do all
(32:17):
the rest of that. But you you what I call
talking from a safe space. If you're talking with a crew,
you're talking on the internet, or you talking out of town.
You know what I'm saying. Anything I've ever said, I
just said straight up to a person what I'm saying.
And if you want to see it, bro, I'm not
willing to lose no scuffles. So and it's whatever we
(32:40):
can and we can do it in the ring, or
we can do it, we can do it somewhere control.
But I'm in this prison where I have to keep
letting people make it. So when people say something crazy,
it's a lot of it's a lot of talk that
happens with me with people, and I respect man big
up the d L and David Banner because it's it's
(33:03):
a lot dre It's a lot of talk that has
to happen with me because just it just irritates me
that people can just say something so crazy. And then
people started being on their side without no facts, and
you like, yeah, and I can say I'm cool, but
(33:27):
I don't see you. Then when I see you, I
don't think you know what on site means. I don't
and I don't think that you These dudes that be talking.
Dick Gregory in that book told me this, yo, man,
these people you're gonna bro, You're gonna make it if
you can control your attitude, because it is these are
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industry people that's playing something. Hm. I was this in
the eighties, you know what I'm saying. I was. I
was a formable opponent in the eighties. Then when I
got busted in the early nineties, this, I was already
in the streets way before New Jackson. The movie didn't
make me be in the streets. So and what I
(34:13):
did inside, man, I really I really got to pray
for people and and cry for people because I'm like, yo, man,
what I do to you? You like you don't really
you don't really understand because I've already done it, Like
I'm not I'm not playing with you, and you don't
(34:34):
have like in this on my children. You really don't
have enough people to stop me from doing something to you.
You Really, I don't care nothing about your security, bro,
I don't care nothing about none of that. But what
has to keep me together is me. I have to
(34:55):
I have my children have to come into my head.
I spend one time I let somebody puppet tear me
to so much violence that I was gonna do something
of this whole family. And it wasn't no secret like
they see me and I'm telling them, Yo, listen, yo,
(35:16):
people started this with me and I'm by myself. I'm
not coming with men. I ain't got no manute man. Yeah,
he is here for the people, not for me to
save me from myself, because I will get out there
and he know me. I'm not gonna say nothing. I'ma
be like this.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
I saw down Anthony on seven PM in Brooklyn. He
was talking about the situation with kat Williams.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, I don't even I don't get I don't want
to give him no press. Yeah, because that's that's a
whole nother. And then the first thing people do is
come to me yo Lee that I said, Man, you
know what's crazy when somebody can spend the narrative from
what the actual problem was. Yeah, this ain't about me
(36:03):
knowing you and you knowing me. This ain't about that.
It's about you challenge somebody to something and then I
challenge you to the same million dollar boxing match. It's
in the rent well, and then you go on what
he did. I thought he was a celebrity. I would
give him the match. Damn the celebrity. I got the
bread because guess what you can hide behind all of that?
(36:25):
Who knew who Bust the Douglas was when he fought
Mike Tyson. I Look, who knew who Roach was when
he got ready to fight Tank Matt we're talking about
it's Tank though everybody is not on the same level
in boxing, but if you if you somebody call you out,
(36:45):
it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I watched.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I Averley watching boxing, didn't know who Roaches was. But
then I'm like, I went back in his career, like
I don't know who Wilder was because he hadn't fought nobody.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
What you talk about back what youre talking.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
About when Wilder first, when fire the first jumped on
the scene, I didn't know who he was because he
hadn't fought nobody that I even was paying attention.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
To until he got to the knock out street.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Until he got who is he knocking out?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I mean a bunch of nobody.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
But at the time the heavyweight division really didn't have nothing,
and he was like, you know, loud from Alabama, the
bomb Squad.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I paid, I paid a lot of attention.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I just know him because to this day that's that's
and that was like. But I like when I saw
wild I was like, Oh, he gonna lose to this,
to this this boy because of the of the lineage,
because a Manuel Steward, so a Manual Steward was training him.
(37:51):
Being a Manual Stewart sons. I'm saying now he ain't
gonna be fairy because fiery don't know how to buy.
And anybody know about Manual Stewart. All boxers, all heavyweights
over six foot, a Manual Steward has trained and they
have become champions. Now Wilder had a chance to train
with Manual Steward, but I guess, you know, whatever didn't
(38:12):
work out. And then I looked at his legs. I'm like,
there was some little legs to be and boxing is
in the feet, boxing his feet. So it's kind of
like when dudes was locked when we was locked up.
If a dude hit you with his best shot and
you don't drop, he know he's in trouble. After that
I didn't hit you with everything I had and you ain't.
(38:34):
I remember this dude stole me. I was looking this way.
I turn around five. I'm like, is that what you did?
And then he started running and I'm like, and I
had the jump rope and I right right around his
neck and man them when it came it had been
bad for him. But you because you stole me, and
I as soon as you steal me, I already know
you scared. If you come with somebody else, I know
(38:56):
you scared. You know what I'm saying. And that's from
my grandmother. I got into some dudes, eight dudes, and
my grandmother say, well, go back out there, because they scared.
It's only you now. She was halfway right. Three of
them wasn't scared at all. Three of them was read
about that business that alone.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Time said, whenever you got a problem with a person,
you approach that person and you put them to the
side and you have a conversation. You walk up on
him with a bunch of people. He know that you
really ain't serious, because.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I don't walk up on nobody, no a bunch of people.
I'm like, yo, and I ain't gonna make no scene.
And none of that. I'm like, hey, bro, listen, you
said something that was out of pocket. You know what
I'm saying. And then this is the other thing is
when other people jump on the bandwagon about cloud cloud,
(39:48):
what I need? What? How does that even equate to cloud?
It don't even equate. Like, it's no dollars that come
from that. It's nobody gonna let me go see him
now that they that they got it. No, But so
you forget how long I've been doing it, So why
would I need? And I'm talking about and when I
hear veterans saying things, I'm like, oh, so you're jealous
(40:11):
of what's happening right now. So so so now you
you trying to pick a side in order to get cloud.
You know how crazy it is for somebody who always
report about what other people doing to talk about somebody
else trying to get cloud. So you trying to get cloud?
That's what you do, right, That's what you do on
the radio, right, That's what you do on whatever you're
doing it on. But it's a it's a funny. It's
(40:33):
a funny thing, especially when you know in your head
the truth.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
But on my two sons, you start off the specially
by talking about how you don't want to fight no more.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Fifty Yeah, that's but that's a that's on the special.
I don't want. I don't want. I didn't want to
fight my son, and I don't want to fight my son.
Speaker 10 (40:54):
That yeah, that's yeah, you know, but yeah, yeah, but
you know my hand, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
I don't want to fight nobody though, I really don't.
But I don't want. I don't want to be I
have trouble with people lying on me though, because and
people are like, well, that's wives is so important, I said,
because of this Emmit till happened because of a lie.
You know what I'm saying. It's a lot of things
(41:30):
happen because of one lie. Propaganda is one of the
biggest things that happened to black life. Slavery was one thing,
but the propaganda of what was sold about us after
that is the most crippling thing.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Yeah, the mid old movie called Birth of a Nation
came out in nineteen fifteen, and a lot of the
negative stereotypes that you know that that were put on
black people were because of that film. A fucking film
called the Birth of a Nation about in nineteen fifteen.
I believe it was, and they made us that the
whole stereo types about fried chicken and everything came from
that film.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Damn.
Speaker 11 (42:06):
But I guess I do have one question. You know,
you said you don't want to talk about it much.
What has the conversation that Kat Williams is having done
to you? Because you're still successful in booking all the
shows and making all the money, so like, what does
him clearing up anything do for you?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
It's not about him cleaning up, it's about the lie
that's being told on you. You know, it don't work
for me.
Speaker 11 (42:27):
That's about the opening of the show versus like how
that happened? You been on the show?
Speaker 1 (42:32):
On what show?
Speaker 11 (42:33):
So there wasn't the conversation that you do. You had
a contract with the club, which is how you were open.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
See what you're saying, that's the guess the lie.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
You're saying, I don't even know the store, so that's stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
That's the lie. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (42:45):
So the story that from what he said and what
I read, was that he was saying that you only
opened up for him because you had a contract with
the club, not because it was something that was a
part orchestrated within the show.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Why And that's the and watch this. Nobody is small
enough to say, well, why would he have to pay? Then?
If I had a contract with the club, with the
with the venue, why would he have to pay.
Speaker 7 (43:04):
Me if he already came.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
If never catch a check? But why would he have
to give me a check if I have a contract
with the venue. I've never had a contract with no
venue to open up. That's why you would never find
another comic that said, oh, he opened up for me
at the Relying Arena. I've never even opened up for
nobody there. So the lie is he had a contract
(43:31):
with the venue. That's why he was there. At first,
I wasn't on this the other version, I wouldn't even
on the show. So now I'm on the show. But
it's because of this. Then it's the lie is. I
walked into the green room and told his whole crew,
I'm doing thirty minutes and ain't none of y'all can
follow me. You talk about nigga who don't even talk
(43:52):
to nobody at the shows, and who are the five people? Now?
You got to get your crew to lie, to be
still be a part of your crew, to say who
the fire people? Shema Franklin ain't gonna say that. She
ain't gonna say that because that's a lie. Which what
is nigga? What? Which? What is your problem? Nigga? Which
one is the problem? At first? You didn't know me?
(44:13):
Now I got a contract with the venue? Nigga? Where
you get that from? You just pulling shit out your
ass to try to make yourself look better because you
don't want that ass whooping? Did I asked you what?
Because nigga, I don't even understand. Then you said, you
put me out of the club. You need to put
me out of shit. I walked out to get my
partner ghetto and they wouldn't let me back in. But
(44:33):
I performed for two nights. That's the confusing part. But
if I, if I had a contract with the venue,
wouldn't the venue pay me and let you back in
and let me back in? Why would I have to
be there? Say, Ralph, you come open this door.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Did you really not cash the check cat gave you?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
The man? I do that shit in the trash.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
There's a lot of money, and that's a stemmy.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
It wasn't a lot of money for me. I was.
I was only there because I was asked to be there.
If I wasn't asked to be there, I would have
never came there. Oh and the other part of the
story was I came there and I was looking to perform.
Nigga looking to perform in Houston? Why would I be
(45:23):
looking to perform now this? And then it's crazy is
he's saying it as if this is modern day nigga.
This isn't two thousand, fourteen fifteen before you had all
the crew with you. Then we don't know each other. Bro,
It's not even about us not knowing each other. But
(45:46):
if people go back to Prayer View and m University,
damn near two thousand, what four or five, it's me
Kat and Alex Thomas performing there, thousand kids with pictures
for that we in shreport like I don't even understand what.
And prior to that, when your name was Cat and
(46:08):
a Hat, I booked you and Rodney Perry at my
comedy spot because I heard that you wasn't doing that well.
And then I reached out Sharon Balwan to tell anybody.
He faxed me his head shot. You know what a
fact headshot looked like. It's just like a blurred copy.
And you Nigga would have had a top hat on
and a cane.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
He faxed it this early two thouars, and I never
told the story because I couldn't remember who the other
comic was.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
And me and Rodney Perry ended up talking, and Rodney's like, man,
I don't even understand this because it was me you
and I said, what what what you're talking about? Ronnie?
He said, yeah, you booked us at this spy called
Cloud Now you was doing this thing called Uptown Saturday Night.
I said, God, damn, Rodney Perry, you were on the
(47:03):
other comic bro. So I didn't I didn't even understand.
I'm confused. I don't even know what it started, like,
where did where did it start from?
Speaker 11 (47:11):
It started from the was there.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
It started from me accepted, if you challenged Kevin to
a boxing match, somebody who is doing whatever he's doing,
he got time for you. Why don't you let me
get that match for that million dollars? Because I got
time and I want to I want to save this
ship that that happened at at the Houston over Line Arena.
(47:36):
Said this is what this is what I said on
This is what I said. Because my story ain't changed
since it happened.
Speaker 11 (47:42):
But it was the show, and then it was the
boxing match conversation.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
No, it was the boxing match first.
Speaker 11 (47:46):
Oh, I thought the boxing match happened after okay, and.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Then then it's all this this, this ridiculous is about
this show. And I'm like, bro, he said, yeah, but
he was on Willie Dee first with a whole nother story.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
I ain't gonna lie stories, ain't.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Gonna box bro the phone together noo yeah, and he
and I want to be there because I don't trust you,
I said, Man, you can trust me.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
I'm not gonna I'm not. I just wanted to see
what it is, though, because now and now you've Nene
said it's something way out of pocket, and I'm like, okay,
I say so. And then you said, what do he
say on site? Mean on site? Stop it?
Speaker 3 (48:31):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Stop it? Like bro, stop it? You know what I'm saying,
And like yo, man, and at my worst, at my worst, man, Bro,
you this is I'm with I'm with it whatever the
ring or the street, but I would prefer in that ring.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
You can't beat him in the rais though.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
You gotta be when you rob niggas, you gotta be.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
I was looking at this Netflix thing you posted. It
said what we watched the Netflix engagement report. I thought
this was dope. From December twenty twenty four to June
two thousand twenty five, if your specials were on Netflix,
you would be you would have three of them in
the top nine of the specials that they put out
from December twenty twenty four to June twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
That's impressive.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Those are Netflix. Those are Netflix numbers, right.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
So Netflix, I didn't, I didn't. I saw you posted.
But it's from Netflix.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah, Netflix, that's Netflix numbers. This and this is what
this is where where people will say about cloud and
the rest of this. I've put out a special every
year that the opposition has put out a special. Two
those are Netflix numbers. It's a it's a special that's
not on now. Somebody specially not on that in viewership,
(49:50):
who's special missing? It's not a special that's on now.
I'm just no, no cap no flex noning. I know
one thing in viewership is not a special. It's a
special that's not on.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
That was that the same time when it.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Can't come exact same time. I'm saying it's a special
that ain't on now.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
To be fair, Ali, this is from December twenty twenty
four to June two to twenty five.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
CAT came out the week after mind, the week before mine,
the week before.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Did this chat came out in April?
Speaker 11 (50:21):
This is still the first The IMDb is saying April nine,
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
He would be on it.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
I'm just telling you it came out in April. This
is from December twenty four. The June twenty twenty five.
CAT came out in April of last year, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
You ain't gonna look at me like you look at Scratch.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
You do know, you do know I dropped the specially
in twenty twenty four. He dropped down on the dropped
two specially twenty twenty four. Every year, what.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
I'm saying the three that you dropped all from twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Five, that's the twenty five list, the twenty four let's
say the same thing. Hold, let me look at it.
Speaker 11 (50:59):
I see here for Williams is may Fo.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
The one I'm looking at from December twenty four to
June twenty five.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
You know what came out of May? Domino effect? Domino
effect three that I bought.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
That that you got three specials in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
I just know I ain't doing no chicken shacks. Some positivity, please, all.
I know I ain't doing no chicken shacks. Somebody said,
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
A chicken shack, said just I don't even talk about
giving no pres I know.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Hold on, this is big though.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Your specials Ill performed ninety percent of all Netflix specials.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
That's big, man, that's huge.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
And my two sons in the top five, that's right.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
And Ruggedy right behind it. And then the one, the
one I produced Marcus Wiley is not big, but I
produced that completely and completely independent. I know a lot
of times people this is one thing about black people.
They always say you need to be independent, you need
to be independent, but want you to be white indoors.
That's the other part about it. Want you to be
(52:00):
endoored unless you with a major Like I don't have
an agent, you know, I don't have no I'm not
signed to an agency, you know. So I just have
my manager, my role manager me, you know, my my
publicity team, and then my production crew that I work
with a big shot out to Eric Abrams. It's and
(52:22):
Matt Schuler. It's the what we're doing is like I'm
about to start distributing other people's specials, turning my YouTube
into a network, not just just not just mine. So
it was the test was was the same program that
I would do for myself, could I do that for
somebody else? And Marcus d Wiley was a testing ground.
So and it's not just that, well, we didn't just
(52:45):
shoot a special. If you look Marcus, we shot a
special and then we marketed him and then in June
Marcus went on his own tour. See that's the difference
between how you you teach somebody the fish versus constantly
giving them fi. I don't find no pride in Oh,
(53:06):
you know, Charlemagne been opening up for me for eight years.
I die. Charlemagne can't go on the road by itself.
But if you out with me for two years and
we build and we build you, and we give you
your own your own lane, and then we market you
in that own lane, and then we we lobby our
(53:28):
relationships to put you in these clubs by yourself, and
then you do that for two years, and then in
two years you in the theater by yourself. You know,
markets you the new special in September. You know, we're
producing this new joint September. So that's the way that
you you actually help somebody, not hold them hostage with
(53:49):
you for eight nine years and then they can't go
fish on their own. You know, that's that's a that's
a crazy mentality. D L knew I was leaving. Bill
Bell me knew I was leaving. I was with d
L for four years, out with Bill for four years.
But I and Bill always called me Bobby Brown. I'm like, yo,
I was leaving. The addition, you know what I'm saying,
(54:12):
I was, I was out and so in that in
that concept when it's it's other comedies, other comedy friends
that I have that I want to produce their specials.
And this is where you start to understand the industry.
There's some people who sent me their specials and I
didn't I have it. You gotta be so bold. I
(54:37):
ain't saying like it just wasn't it wasn't on brand.
So I gotta yo, I got the brand right now,
Like I knew he didn't like it.
Speaker 7 (54:51):
No what you said, it was a pamphlet, not a book.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
It's like you gotta tell your friends, like, hey, man, look,
I don't think this is your I don't think you
want to be introduced like this. You kind of want
to come out a little stronger than than this. I
don't want to hear that's real.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
No, da Jabelle throw and not.
Speaker 4 (55:24):
Donelle did his special during COVID and by the time
it was time to come out, it was it was
kind of dated, like the materials like that. So they
was like, this, ain't that you should you should go
back and do it again.
Speaker 7 (55:35):
Okay, why are you pause like that? Because he did
not have to just thrown that, didn't he?
Speaker 1 (55:40):
He He set it up here.
Speaker 3 (55:48):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
It's one of the things that you know, you want.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
To swing on Downell No, I like the cool.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
It's just with me, your writing. You're gonna have to
up your pen, you know, with me. In order to
produce your spec it has to have a beginning, a middle,
in the end. It has to have a through line.
Because a set is not a special. You know, if
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people go on my YouTube, I never called what was it?
What was that? Don't judge your book by his cover.
I never called it a special. I never called pta
a special. It's a show. It's a set. But it's
not a special. The specials are Domino Effect one through four,
and then Rugged and My Two Sons, and I did
(56:42):
My Two Sons and Rugged to show man, don't don't
try to lock me in no prison box. Before I
ever did Mexicot on Boots, I had been doing stand
up for about fifteen years and I and I and
I did it because I didn't want to get caught
up in the whole prison stigma is a prison come.
(57:03):
So I never did any of the stories. So when
I my friends had heard them stories a thousand times,
and I remember bills like, Yo, man, if you don't
ever do this story, bro, I'm going to kill you.
You know what I'm saying, because this man's got on boots.
And then this story about feasts and I still haven't
done feasts, and that that's the That's one of the
(57:25):
funniest stories. That and then Brown Brown and Winn is
funny too, the bodybuild big dudes doing bodybuilding and had
me judging the contestant to give us.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
Give us one for you gon win one.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
Of them Brown and winning on my Instagram as a
cartoon now. But feasts feast is different. Feasts like forty eleven,
about five foot dude. But he has a huge afro
that he he ties down with a with a T shirt.
I wasn't gonna say Charlamagne, said Dafro. Then he pushes
(58:01):
down on the teacher. But it's out for it's huge.
This dude. This is why you gotta watch your mouth.
This dude. About six three six four, we on We
all in the cafeteria eating and then we heard you
can cuss up here. I don't like curs on royo.
He said, Pitch, give me some more pancakes. And we
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knew who was on pancakes that day because Feast worked
in the kitchen, and we knew who was on pancakes.
And we heard, give me some small pancakes. And this
is when you kind of know that you were in trouble,
when the whole cafeteria quiet, all the races, all the
races are quiet, like white maskin Asian black. We was like,
(58:47):
I said, well, maybe Feast, this is what I said
my head. Maybe Feast took a break and he ain't
on the pancakes. And I look and Feast was on
the pancakes. I was said, oh sh came and sat
down and the Mexicans came to him first, Hey, bro,
go home. You know you need to go apologize the feast.
(59:09):
And he said, lo man, fuck that little bit.
Speaker 3 (59:12):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
I said again, I turned to somebody, said this nigga said,
white boys like yo yo my man, yo yo yo. Listen, bro,
you might want to go apologize the feast. I ain't
apologizing that bitch. This nigga keeps saying it. I'm like,
my head is burned. I'm like this nigga is wow.
(59:34):
And they they want him to go apologize because they
don't want to stop the flow or whatever was they
got coming in. So he get on the block and
I come to him. I said, Yo, my man, straight up,
I'm just being you know, real, you should go apologize that.
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Nigga said, man, fuck you wearing feast. I said, damn,
fuck me, damn, it's wrong. I go back over. I said, don't.
Nobody said nothing said that, and everybody went to commissary
I'm talking about and bust a whole sixty. Hey, let
me get let me get forty soups, let me get,
(01:00:16):
let me get coffee, let me get that, let me
get some letters, let me get all my ship because
we're going to be on lockdown. We're going to be
on lockdown. I know what this is gonna be. Man,
our doors roll at four thirty in the morning, it's
five twenty. Them doors ain't popped. My selling this old
dude too. My I damn it, I ain't get to
(01:00:37):
go to the commons, Sara I said, Nigga, Yeah, it's gonna
be rough. Man. When they start calling Muslim brothers out
say the talk, say so, tell me what happened to
capterior I said, and I'm in there, talk aloud. I
don't know what happened. I don't I don't know what
appen been in my cell all day. Man feasts in
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his and feasts been there, sins. Feast has the old
typewriter like this ship that he got. He got that
Harry Tubman type writer. And we looking at feasts and
feast looking like this and and feast don't talk, and
feasts mouthed to me, said he's been there since he
(01:01:25):
was sixteen years old. This man is in his late thirties. Brother,
it's ain't who you want to play with. And then
they called the cold and we saw situation and I'm
like that warding, like do you know what happened like
(01:01:46):
that was in my celle. I'm not even on that block,
but we could imagine what happened. Feast wasn't playing that
bullshit what it means? No, you know, we don't disclose
that type of out on the radio. We don't do that. Yeah,
that ask me that off. There's no don't nobody call Feast. No,
(01:02:11):
you don't call no man out his name, not in
that because you can't. You can't. The echoes too loud,
because if one person, you let one person call you
out your name. You on a unit with three thousand people,
you got three thousand people calling you out your name.
Your mental you think I'm strong, ain't. That's just one dude.
(01:02:31):
Now your mental capacity can't take your name coming from
Charlemagne to hey, bitch, you not gonna take that. And
then and then you gotta think in the free society,
somebody call you out your name, you can walk away.
I'm not wire like that. Hmm, I'm not. My My
(01:02:53):
wires is institute. You might you might well put a
gate around me. I'm like, cause that's the first thing.
Come mind.
Speaker 9 (01:02:59):
Who I'm so glad you changed your life.
Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Still big on that. I didn't even talk. I don't
talk about.
Speaker 7 (01:03:12):
Friends, and he'd be laughing at a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
I learned a couple of baits today. I'm that's right.
You don't call no man and you don't play what
what's the song? Yoologized? Tour in the shadows to Where
(01:03:42):
did they go.
Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
For the tickets?
Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Man? I go to a dot com or go to
Alice Steak comedy on YouTube, or go to ticket master.
Well you know whatever tickets are. So you know that's
one thing about telling tickets. People people call you as
if there ain't never been no concert. Man. I get
tickets to your the same way we got to Eric,
but they show niggas. I saw you, I saw you
(01:04:05):
moving your hymns at Eric, but they showed nigga. Now
you know how get taken because you know me.
Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
At the same website.
Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Yeah, you can get on Amazon. It should be on
Charlotte Maine's because you know everything he do is the
best seller? Can I can I get my pamphlet to
be a best seller?
Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Want the pamphlet? But what we're gonna do? Check your
email right now? Check your email. I put you on
during an interview.
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Okay, I did I signed your book and everything you
don't wait to read quick. Wow, this is man.
Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Cut it out.
Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Man's supposed to be a quick some people, because you
know people don't read no long ass books.
Speaker 7 (01:04:53):
Exactly here talking about the long as book every day.
Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
When I when I see him talk about these are
the best sellers right here, I'm like, who waded the
big ass book? They just stamping this nigga ship. You
just give it to it, just gonna make it the
best of that big ass encyclopedia. Who read Nigga Jesus
and he got over that bike. He's like, I read,
I read the introduction. He ain't read that book. Right.
(01:05:19):
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Good morning, and turn that up.
Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Every day a week ago, clicks up the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
You finish for y'all Done.
Every day up waiting, click your ass up the breakfast Club.
You don't finish for y'all.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Done morning, everybody in stej Envy just hilarious.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Charlamagne the guy, we are the breakfast club law the
Roses here as well. We got a special guest in
the building.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yes, indeed, at least a Dick.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Welcome, brother Man, good, thank you, thank y'all for having
me back. I'm good Man, got a toy, he said
in The Shadows tour kicks off August twenty second in
Lantic City. Yep, we back on it. You know, I
took six weeks off and now I'm coming back. So yeah,
how much do you write Ali oh Man? Every every
other day? It gotta be right every other day.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Because I was watching two Suns two Sundays an hour
and twenty minutes long.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, that was That's the easy part by my family,
because I know him. You know, I don't have to
I don't have to really write nothing with that. I
just have to structure it, you know how much? How
I mucha say it? And then you know, Rugged was
a little bit more. No program that I had to
really write out Rugged to know which stories I was
gonna say. And how I was gonna say them, and
(01:06):
the time, like I try to write everything in chronological order. Yeah,
so you know that's the that's the and that's the
hard part of it. If I if I forget a story,
then I gotta go back. Now it's like this Nigga
line because it don't match the timeline.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
So when you go out on the in the shadows
to how much of that material.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Do you use it?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
You just leave all of that on YouTube and you
just got something brand new.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So in the Shadows now is the is the news?
The news specials that I'm shooting in February and DC.
So I'm gonna shoot three new specials in February and
d C. I just shot three in Detroit in October.
So we got five specials in the can that we
can drive much material? Man, yeah jesus yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
So do you feel like breaking down the business? I
just want to know how that translates into dollars?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Oh, it's like how many like the whole program? The
whole program?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So how a special translates from Okay, so let me
start with this. I'm always insulted when somebody say they
saw me on Netflix because I'm like, no, you did
not know Netflix. You saw me on YouTube because I'm independent.
So what happens is I shoot, I shoot the special,
so you I get paid for doing it. Because I
(02:24):
only shoot when I'm on tour. So I shoot in
the places that I'm performing. I'm not oh, let me
pick some day and shoot somewhere else. I'm doing the
specially because I'm ready. When I got to Detroit, I
was ready for the three specials, so we sold out
the three shows that we did. So we do two
shows for each special, so that's six that's six paydays
(02:46):
just to shoot it. So then after I shoot it,
I premier it on a different platform for my immediate fans.
So now that I'm at a million followers on YouTube,
that's a million people that's that have the possibility of
going to the platform that I put it on to
premiere before anybody else.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Season it could be any platform, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But we do moment.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So then after two months, because I wait two or
three months before I put it on YouTube for free.
So now that that translates into commercial dollars.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So people paid for the watching on the moment, Yes,
and now you do it for commercials.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
But smart so you shoot.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
You said you shot four specials in the last couple
of months, three in the last three months.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
When did you get time to do? You have to
practice your material because like most of the communities was like,
let me try this out. You got to the thing
is you I'm on the road. It's one hundred city tour.
So I'm gonna take the first thirty cities and work
the stories. And then by the time i get the
city number forty, that's when we're shooting, you know what
(03:54):
I'm saying. So I'm gonna work all these So we
got forty four dates, forty four theaters after you know,
I do already on Wednesday. Because when you take when
you take time off, you have to go to the
minor leagues first, you know, and to come back come
back because I've been I was my how my stories
line up was kind of awful. Little bit. I was
(04:15):
forgetting major parts of the story. I'm like, wow, I
wasn't supposed to say that. Yet people They're like, say, no,
you can't go, and then I had to start staying.
I'm like, let me. It's the part that I forgot
to tell y'all. But it works because I tell stories.
So it's I'm so connected to my audience that they
(04:36):
wait for it, you know, like and it's a it's
a very special thing that I really that I really
think is cool because you know, I transitioned after what
I've been doing standing up twenty eight years in December.
It'll be twenty eight years in December. So how I
used to be when I look back at how I've
(04:56):
gotten to this point, you know, is crazy. Now I'm recap.
I'm going into how I got to this point now
in the new specials how I even started? Because people
will say that somebody wrote years ago that I started
in prison, and I try to and I keep trying
to clean this up. I did not start. There's no
comedy clubs. Most people work out in prison.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
You didn't comedy.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I know somebody I don't know who wrote that initially,
and it's been sticking. So every time I get in
of you, So you started in prison, there's no comedy
club between the child and the reck yard. Well, I'm like, yo, everybody,
come ahead, I'm gonna get it done. No, it was
more like the first two years I was wild, and
(05:43):
I give I give it that I was. I was
on prison time. It wasn't even surviving. It was oh man, okay.
So they used to have this. They used to have
a mop bucket with the handle. Me and probably some
other people at the reason. They took the handle off
so the Mexicans would cut the handle off and turn
(06:06):
it into knives. I got into it with a dude
and I dropped him, and then I went to the
third floor. I was so mad, I was violent. I
went to the third floor. I filled my bucket up
with water and I dropped it down on him. You
know what I'm saying, So huh.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Not a bucket.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Of water. I dropped the bucket and everything on And
to do that you got to have a handle. Doing
it like this is a little awkward, but yeah, I was.
I was on one. I was.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I was for you to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Man stole your chips and no, damn. I had a
problem with people talking reckless like That's why I didn't
play dominoes, because see, people, people lose their mouth in dominoes.
So we playing and I told him, I said, hey, man,
I don't want to play because y'all don't know how
to talk. Right now, we ain't gonna say nothing. So
then we playing dominos and I called ten and then
(07:05):
the next thing, I know, ten inches in you and
then I just got it. Don't even worry about it.
Don't even worry about it, don't even see this. This
is what I said. I said, I don't do this,
and I just mean I lost it, and and people knew.
We was like, like, oh boy, you about to you
(07:25):
about you might want to go put your boots on.
But this little boy is a wild man like. And
I figured out, look, you see how I can't take
all that. And the thing is, I figured out that
most people can't fight hand in hand. I've been boxing
since I was six. So I was like, Yo, it
don't matter how big York, I ain't gonna wait class.
(07:47):
You know what I'm saying. It's like, if you're trying
to do something, let's do it. But in now you
have to check somebody chin. You know what I'm saying
about everything, and it and it just came too came
too much for me. So about two years in, his
old head told me, he said, yo, man, you can't
keep living like this. Because I was like, yo, I
(08:07):
would be on that basketball court. And this is where
I say, eighty five percent of my fight starle on
that court. Know what I'm saying, get undercutted. We were
doing I'm doing you dirty on that court, and all
of a sudden your mouth and went crazy, and I
just all right, no, no, I'm waiting. I'm like, soon
as we get back to this block is on and
(08:28):
I'll just butt you on your head and oh man,
a can, a can of tuna and a pair of socks.
You can get the work done. Nineteen when I went,
he was young. Yeah, so nineteen four days after after
I turned nineteen hours I was gone.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
We do that with locks in high school.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Put the lock, put you put your lock on your belt.
The compilation. Now you put that on a loop of
your belt. You get, Yeah, you get the swing. The
swing is pretty good too, though you gotta wrap it.
The swing is swing is pretty good. All those people
that you beat up in jail, they never came back
at you never see them at your shows, like you
remember me. I'm the one that you man, you know,
(09:08):
it's wild. It's more dudes that I beat up in
high school that be on one than anything. I was
just and and at this function, I had to I'm
gonna say this publicly because I always say if you
if you disrespect somebody a lowd, you gotta homeboy, you
gotta you gotta apologize, you gotta apologize loud. So DJ Scratch,
(09:30):
I'm quite sure you know him. Scratch, Yeah, DJ, the
real Scratch. So I'm it's my last day of vacation.
I'm having a good time, you know what I'm saying.
Then he's back there doing his mix. I'm like, and
I'm on the mic. I don't want hear that. I
won't hear everything from the South. I don't want hear
nothing all that. I don't want to hear none of it.
(09:52):
And scar faces like yo yeah, and scar faces like
this yo lead Chuck rockets on the side. Oh it's
on and I'm if it's a video of it out,
but I had already apologized for the video came out
and Scratches.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Like Scratch down.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now and I'm I'm wilding, and I'm like, yo, I
don't want to hear nothing. So he yeah, man, I
don't want.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
To hear this ship.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I don't want I'm on one because just okay, this
thing and you just got back from Italy. You don't
want to find out that you got a possible for
dinner and saying, I just got back from the East Coast.
I don't hear nothing East Coast because y'all don't play
enough South up here for me. So I'm like, I
don't want to be I don't want to be at
fifty fifteen in the South. I'm in Houston on my
block and I'm here here none of that. I don't
(10:42):
hear none of it. And I'm wilding you at the
club in Houston, and I'm wilding and scratches like, yo,
he's stopped the muse, Yo you they ain't hearing the transitions.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Dude, Man, I don't care nothing about that. Play fat
pack key slim power wall, I'm saying, a man, And
how that stopped?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Scarface just looking at me like because he brought the
one brought me over there. I was at a whole
other club having a good time. He said, Yo, Lee,
come over. It's the wooler Ridge Reunion nineties union. Lee
come over here. So me special ed and be fine
and we walk over and man, after soon as I
(11:28):
heard the transition, I was like, I don't want it.
I don't want it, and scratch y'all, man, you're talking
all over my stuff. Like, man, I don't give damn
about that, and but I won't apologize. No, no, I
wrote him a text. He'll show people the text I
wrote him. Yo, I'm talking of the next day, my
(11:50):
man was like, yo, boy, you was on one that May,
and he showed me the video. I said, man, name me,
let me scratch. I said, yo, bro, My apologized, Man,
I was on one. And then the video starts circulating.
But these people don't know how I apologized. I got
to see this video that yo, and you just and
I know I was spastic because when scar Face told
(12:13):
me the chill, I just gave it the mic and
I looked at the crowd like that, like, don't nobody knew?
Speaker 4 (12:20):
And he's like, okay, the crowd into it before you
got on the micro.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Man, I'm not going through all that. I'm just I apologize.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You want to apologize about it?
Speaker 7 (12:32):
When add the video circulated, this get mad all over again.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I don't know. I both went in, but I know
I apologize way early. Look now, Envy looking it up here,
something my something, my apologies, but then the video wasn't
not yet thought it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I'm like, man, that's my type of carrying on.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
But I always, but I already apologize, you know what
I'm saying. And I looked at my press cut. I said, okay,
Breakfast Club, you gotta be a good one again. You
got on the stage, Yo, I'm already on the state.
Don't do that. And I was already on the stage.
Look he right next to him. Yo, who was you drinking?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I don't want it?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
What the yo? But the okay, y'all got.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
No mi yo, it's my last day vaking.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
You see.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Oh man, here's the thing, man, I feel like leaves paying.
I love DJ Scratch, but I have been in South
Carolina where you got a DJ from New York And
when they do m O P and they keep going,
at least.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Play the song.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
They just keep doing that. Yeah, man, n V he
vy ain't here here DJ. He's like, yo, you bob
that Wow. I don't even understand. And I used to
be I used to a record do you know the
first time? You know, that was my first time at him.
But you know, I know his work. You know, I
(14:41):
used to run a record pool, keep playing record. He
would have beat it all up secause we would trying
to jump out leave thre He was just some drug
here that he would have came out with boxing and
it was somebody scarface gave me the mic. I'm already
on the mic, but that would have been bad though,
(15:02):
because it was it was it was no bro, we
in let me, let mean give me. I'm I'm gonna
put this outdea, I'm playing. I remember the last time
a dude said something to me in the club, and
that's same club fifty fifteen, and the cops told him, yo,
(15:23):
you are not going to survive this, and he ain't
even gonna tell you. Do you see that man ain't
said nothing. I'm just looking at him like this and
everybody behind him and see that. They're like, bro, do
you understand where you are? You are in third ward?
That man got a house right down the street and
you're on his block. It's no way to run, It's
(15:43):
no like it's once. Once we get out of this club,
there's nowhere too high You on me the block, like,
but just make sure the apology is sick.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Trying to he don't see.
Speaker 9 (16:01):
What's going on at first, But did you see face
face face really face said face pulled me to the side,
like yo, lead, hey man, I brought you over here.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I was like, but I was having a good time
while I was at You brought me over here and
asked me to get on the mic, and then I
was flying with I was fired with Blasters DJ. You
know what I'm saying, def jam blast with DJ. It
was all type. I was here, fat pant, I was there,
and then I ain't. I'm like, Nigga, No, I ain't
feeling this, not right now. I was you apologize, but
(16:43):
I did apologize scratch DJ scratch. I humbly apologized for
stepping on your transitions, and he was what I did?
You ain't here the technique and all I'm like, yeah
about that? I want the south side, south side? Yeah
(17:05):
about this?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Applied the vice pamphlet, Man.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Man, Man, don't call I was pamp, you know, talking,
I see what I'm doing. I called him for publishing.
I called him for publishing connected man, and people ain't
hit me back or nothing. I ain't look like a
black publishing that he like, look at it, look look
at the other bookie. Yeah heart, I could have did
(17:28):
it in hard back myself. Why you do his like
I want to?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
It?
Speaker 10 (17:31):
Ain't hold on, damn, never hit me back.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Eighty six Family I'm the best, cold bloody he said, yeah,
you talk me. Tell me about this pamphlet. Then it's
a whole there's a whole book with a Skew number
and everything on like that, got a I got a car,
We got a table of context. Tell us about your man.
I don't want to say nothing. Tell me about your bro.
Speaker 11 (18:06):
Sure, the States of America.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, but it's cold.
Speaker 11 (18:15):
It's apt of advice.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, it's the it's the you know, people always ask me,
i'll leave, how did you get from point A to
point B? And I say, well, these are the thirteen
people that I listen to their advice. You know a
lot of times people give you an asked for advice
and they never use it. They get mad at you
when something don't work out. Like what I'll try to
tell you, you know what I'm saying. So my mom,
(18:39):
you know she's in there, My mom, my dad's in there.
Dick Gregory Bruce Bruce d Q. Yeah, Rob, Rob Stapleton
is that. Rob Stapleton is a huge reason. You know,
I remember when Rob Stapleton called me out of nowhere.
It's like when them calls, you just get it. It's
(19:00):
maybe six Rob Stables and calls like, Yo, you got
to get out them chilling circuit rooms. I said, what
you know, but I'm making pretty good money in these
chilling circuit room He said, bright, it don't matter. You
are too talented to just be in those chilling circuit rooms.
You should go to the mainstream. Room said now you're
(19:24):
gonna have to take a pay cut. You're gonna have
to take a huge pay cut, but it's gonna work
out for you. Two weeks later, malik As calls me
and DL wants a host at the Houston impriv which
I headlined this club before, for one night. And I'm like,
(19:46):
I go back as the host. I'm like, man, what
they paying. He's like fifty dollars what I said per
per show And he's like yeah, so and I'm thinking, man,
I make way more money than that. And then Rob
Stable popping in my head. So then I take the
(20:06):
gig DL. I do the show with DL. Then he
asked me, yo, what you got next week? I said,
I'm chilling. I ain't got nothing. So he takes me
to Austin. It's probably four white, it's probably four black
people in the whole building. You know what, I'm saying,
and three of them in the green room me, DL
and Derreck, Keena and one guy that's a waiter do
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that show with him. I do off and on with
DL for two thousand and six, two thousand and seven.
DL becomes a host of Death Jam. In two thousand
and eight, I'm on the show. I'm the season finale.
You know what I'm saying. That year, I remember because
it was a season finale, the Wire and Death Jam
the same at the same time. Then I just the clubs.
(20:51):
I'm in the clubs and I'm doing an hour in
front of d L and DL coming to an hour ten.
It's just two man shows after that. So it's like
the training and being with DL taught me how to
be very classy in my approach to how dealt with
the gms, how that with the managers, how deal with
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the wait staff, you know, because when you think about it,
the clubs promote from within, so that that that waitress
that you mistreated, now she's the manager of the club,
you know what I'm saying. Or like the like the
big shot to Raymond Cook he is he runs all
(21:32):
of the improvs in Texas. Raymond was a server when
I came to the m prov but now he's the
head guy, you know, because they want they want you
to know the ins and outs of the whole entire business.
So people go there and they some comics go and
they mistreat these people, you know what I'm saying, and
don't know what there'll be six years down the road.
(21:55):
The five years down the road and they and young comics. Man,
that's on the road with other people. They didn't start
becoming elitist because they thinking that who you're featuring for,
that's not you, you know what I'm saying, Like they
I hear these young comics. Oh man, you and clubs.
(22:16):
You know how much bread you can make in the club?
You must say, because you've never headlined the club, so
you don't know what the check looked like, you know
what I'm saying. So I know Baltimore. When I came
to Baltimore Comedy Factory, we did eight sold out shows.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
That check was so crazy, and I was like, yeah,
I don't want to do no, no, I'm good, and
dudes like, yo, you can do this. Every time, I said,
every time, I realized how.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Much money comedians making them clubs and don't realize how
well comedians are living.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Like they y'all be balling.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, we Yeah. It's some people that you know that
came to the crib and they was like, so this
this this is you. I got like six of these,
like you got six properties. Yeah, I can stay all
over Houston, you know what I'm saying, Hey, this is
your car, this is what this is what we're doing.
(23:14):
And like, yo, but I've been rich a long time.
I've been rich like twice, you knowlegally and illegally, you know,
just legally. Just I just sleep better, you know. So
you know when people be I listen to people on
the internet and people be talking fly like okay, just
put your bread up versus you know, my bread. I'm
(23:37):
talking about liquid. I ain't talking about it, no, and
then my stocks and bonds other things, but you're talking
about liquid. We can put that on the table.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
And that was so funny because if you flip it right,
you got probably comedians who do a lot of stuff
online that people will think, because they're getting all this attention, they.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Got the bread. But it's actually the other way around.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It's it's the comedians that are constantly working in them
clubs that's actually making.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
The money and working period. You know, you can be
a right on a show and be doing well and
a comment that's in the club is still doing better
than you. And then when you when that show was over,
Now you're trying to find work and the guy who's
been on the road is still making a check. You know,
(24:20):
even when I'm practicing, my bag is crazy. Even when
I'm practicing before I get it, Like I did what
five weeks the all of August, in this first part
of August all in the clubs now the theater. I'm back.
I'm at the Tropicana on Friday. I'm We've been sold
out for what three weeks? Before I even got there,
(24:42):
they said, you want to do another show. I'm like, nah,
I'm cool. I just want to go home. I've been
on the road for nine days. But when I'm all
my checks in my backpack, I don't catch my money
til I get home. I want to go to my
private banker. I want to walk in and watching them
people be this is the type of stuff I get
off on that that people be sitting in there waiting people.
I just walk in and the ladies just like and
(25:04):
I'm like, oh, how long I've been in here. That's
my That's the only thing that I make me happy
is small, you know, luxuries. I don't need nothing. I
don't need nothing big, you know what I'm saying. But ally,
what made you become a comedian? Man? This is what
I think that I was good. And I think that
(25:26):
me wanting people to be happy and learn from stuff
that I was saying was kind of my push because
when people say I started in prison, I was on
closed custody. They made me the SSI on closed custody,
and they ain't had no TV. And so when I
(25:47):
was working over there, these boys been locked They lock
up twenty three hours a day, you know what I'm saying.
They get out just a shower. And they've been back
there a long time. And it started with me just
wanting them to have a food hot. You know. They
would bring this food and it would be cold and
I and I always knew this is why they be
over here tripping because y'all don't give them no clean
(26:08):
clothes and because the difference with clean clothes in the
prisons like this. So I because I'm not on clothes,
because I have the ability to go in there and
lobby for some brand new underwear. And this is this
is when I knew I was never going back to
the prison, because they all your underwears in the webhouse.
You know, they wash them all together. So then you
(26:29):
you got the shower, they just throw you underwear and
several people the water these underwear, you know what I'm saying.
So you get some new ones straight out of the box.
They will never see the laundry again. You keep them
and you wash them out yourself. So they was giving
these dudes the worst underwear because I had to pass
all that stuff. I'm like, yo, I'd be like, yo, no,
(26:50):
somebody that blew satchee, wow. You know what I'm saying,
Say yo, who knew some largest cause? But so I
would went I went to the laundry. I'm like, yo, man,
let me get a box. Let them clean underwell, man
for these dudes. You know what I'm saying, Let me
make sure they fool hot, because y'all not what y'all
(27:12):
not gonna do is throw defecation on me like you
was doing the rest of you. And they was only
doing that because they was getting mistreated. So I started
letting them read the paper because I had I would
read the paper every day. Let him read the paper.
Then I start telling them what was going on in
the unit. And since they ain't had no TV, this
is this is my this was my contribution. I would
(27:34):
watch Martin so intense because I was gonna go back
and react the whole episode for him because they ain't
had no TV. So after Martin went off, I didn't
have nothing to give them, so I just started doing
commentary about what was going on in the rest of
the prison. I sit there with their broomstick and be like, yo,
(27:57):
it's all three runs and they on the ball, whatever
what else happened? And so did start comedy, But that's
not starting. I started just joking comedy cafe. That wouldn't
That wasn't saying that this is me just telling stories.
But I was. I was very.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Your whole style of storytelling.
Speaker 11 (28:19):
You got a punchline, you just storyteller.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I just you know, reenact the situation. But start for this.
It wasn't comedy then, yeah, you wasn't getting no you know.
So the the other thing about it. So people would
say that I was funny because I would stop a
lot of altercation, Like after the first two years of
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me wild, and my whole mindset was, now, if you're
gonna get beat up, don't go to school, and everybody
know that it's about me. Hey, I'm gonna come to you. Hey, bro,
you what what your education looking like? Because if you
stay in here and you just doing prison stuff, when
you get in the world, you're gonna be back. So
(29:05):
you might want to get a g D. You might
want to get the trade or something, because if you don't,
everybody else on this block goes to school to do
a trade, You're gonna be stealing. You're gonna be still
our people to lock him. I don't want you to
get killed, bro, and go to school. And if you don't,
you know, you know there's a fight gonna come with
(29:25):
this and you you're not gonna fight me. You're gonna
fight Mitch. You're gonna fight Brian. You're gonna and everybody like, yeah, bro,
we go to school over here, and this is the
this is the mandate. When we was on tour regime,
you had to go to school because if you didn't,
your your mind is gonna drift into something crazy. But
(29:45):
when people tried to fight, I was just rastionally, just
come over, I'm like, hey, y'all, y'all about to fight? Like, man,
what you want? I said, Bro, I'm just can I
ask a question? Damn y'all staff? So I just want
to ask, Okay, y'all about to fight, which one of
y'all are willing to lose this fight twice? Wait? What
the hell you're talking about? I said, because one of
(30:06):
y'all gonna win. One y'all gonna win for sure, and
then the CEO's are gonna come in and beat the
ship out of both y'all. So who want to lose twice?
People started laughing, Then they started thinking about it, like, yeah,
that's what's going happen, like yo, and this is something major, bruh.
It's not worth it because them CEOs man, you know
(30:28):
it's I always think about it like this, you know,
on on Bugs Bunny, when he would hit that dudo
on the head, they ask you how many lumps you want?
One or two? They gonna give you six that stick,
that stick and then choking you out and all that.
And I'll just be sitting there, look look at you
that Look at you getting choked. Now, I told you
over there, you ain't have to get all that you
(30:50):
have to get drugs. You're looking bad, man, And when
they bring you back, it's like, look at your head
and I ain't and I ain't gonna ease up. Look
at your head in that. See I warned you.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
So you went from the one while to teaching, and
then you also seem like you did a lot of
like mental work with yourself as well.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Like what makes you angry now? Like does anything make
you mean? Oh man, this is this is where the
work really happened. D scratch playing after that years later?
Right now? Did scratch? That was? That was? I was
just wild. But this is what makes me upset now
that I'm trapped in this present of always having to
(31:34):
let sucker dudes make it. You know what I'm saying.
You know, it's always I leave you better than that.
But that's the that's the problem. I dudes keep being
suckers because they always somebody always talking somebody down from
you know, putting hand so and incarcerated. You got. You
(31:55):
can't say nothing false about somebody and not have to
see You can't be running your face and then not
have to see that person and you can't. It's like
it's people in this society don't understand consequences. So you
can say whatever you want to say and be disrespectful
on that Internet and be disrespectful interviews and do all
(32:17):
the rest of that. But you you what I call
talking from a safe space. If you're talking with a crew,
you're talking on the internet, or you talking out of town.
You know what I'm saying. Anything I've ever said, I
just said straight up to a person what I'm saying.
And if you want to see it, bro, I'm not
willing to lose no scuffles. So and it's whatever we
(32:40):
can and we can do it in the ring, or
we can do it, we can do it somewhere control.
But I'm in this prison where I have to keep
letting people make it. So when people say something crazy,
it's a lot of it's a lot of talk that
happens with me with people, and I respect man big
up the d L and David Banner because it's it's
(33:03):
a lot dre It's a lot of talk that has
to happen with me because just it just irritates me
that people can just say something so crazy. And then
people started being on their side without no facts, and
you like, yeah, and I can say I'm cool, but
(33:27):
I don't see you. Then when I see you, I
don't think you know what on site means. I don't
and I don't think that you These dudes that be talking.
Dick Gregory in that book told me this, yo, man,
these people you're gonna bro, You're gonna make it if
you can control your attitude, because it is these are
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industry people that's playing something. Hm. I was this in
the eighties, you know what I'm saying. I was. I
was a formable opponent in the eighties. Then when I
got busted in the early nineties, this, I was already
in the streets way before New Jackson. The movie didn't
make me be in the streets. So and what I
(34:13):
did inside, man, I really I really got to pray
for people and and cry for people because I'm like, yo, man,
what I do to you? You like you don't really
you don't really understand because I've already done it, Like
I'm not I'm not playing with you, and you don't
(34:34):
have like in this on my children. You really don't
have enough people to stop me from doing something to you.
You Really, I don't care nothing about your security, bro,
I don't care nothing about none of that. But what
has to keep me together is me. I have to
(34:55):
I have my children have to come into my head.
I spend one time I let somebody puppet tear me
to so much violence that I was gonna do something
of this whole family. And it wasn't no secret like
they see me and I'm telling them, Yo, listen, yo,
(35:16):
people started this with me and I'm by myself. I'm
not coming with men. I ain't got no manute man. Yeah,
he is here for the people, not for me to
save me from myself, because I will get out there
and he know me. I'm not gonna say nothing. I'ma
be like this.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
I saw down Anthony on seven PM in Brooklyn. He
was talking about the situation with kat Williams.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Yeah, I don't even I don't get I don't want
to give him no press. Yeah, because that's that's a
whole nother. And then the first thing people do is
come to me yo Lee that I said, Man, you
know what's crazy when somebody can spend the narrative from
what the actual problem was. Yeah, this ain't about me
(36:03):
knowing you and you knowing me. This ain't about that.
It's about you challenge somebody to something and then I
challenge you to the same million dollar boxing match. It's
in the rent well, and then you go on what
he did. I thought he was a celebrity. I would
give him the match. Damn the celebrity. I got the
bread because guess what you can hide behind all of that?
(36:25):
Who knew who Bust the Douglas was when he fought
Mike Tyson. I Look, who knew who Roach was when
he got ready to fight Tank Matt we're talking about
it's Tank though everybody is not on the same level
in boxing, but if you if you somebody call you out,
(36:45):
it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I watched.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I Averley watching boxing, didn't know who Roaches was. But
then I'm like, I went back in his career, like
I don't know who Wilder was because he hadn't fought nobody.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
What you talk about back what youre talking.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
About when Wilder first, when fire the first jumped on
the scene, I didn't know who he was because he
hadn't fought nobody that I even was paying attention.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
To until he got to the knock out street.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Until he got who is he knocking out?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I mean a bunch of nobody.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
But at the time the heavyweight division really didn't have nothing,
and he was like, you know, loud from Alabama, the
bomb Squad.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I paid, I paid a lot of attention.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I just know him because to this day that's that's
and that was like. But I like when I saw
wild I was like, Oh, he gonna lose to this,
to this this boy because of the of the lineage,
because a Manuel Steward, so a Manual Steward was training him.
(37:51):
Being a Manual Stewart sons. I'm saying now he ain't
gonna be fairy because fiery don't know how to buy.
And anybody know about Manual Stewart. All boxers, all heavyweights
over six foot, a Manual Steward has trained and they
have become champions. Now Wilder had a chance to train
with Manual Steward, but I guess, you know, whatever didn't
(38:12):
work out. And then I looked at his legs. I'm like,
there was some little legs to be and boxing is
in the feet, boxing his feet. So it's kind of
like when dudes was locked when we was locked up.
If a dude hit you with his best shot and
you don't drop, he know he's in trouble. After that
I didn't hit you with everything I had and you ain't.
(38:34):
I remember this dude stole me. I was looking this way.
I turn around five. I'm like, is that what you did?
And then he started running and I'm like, and I
had the jump rope and I right right around his
neck and man them when it came it had been
bad for him. But you because you stole me, and
I as soon as you steal me, I already know
you scared. If you come with somebody else, I know
(38:56):
you scared. You know what I'm saying. And that's from
my grandmother. I got into some dudes, eight dudes, and
my grandmother say, well, go back out there, because they scared.
It's only you now. She was halfway right. Three of
them wasn't scared at all. Three of them was read
about that business that alone.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Time said, whenever you got a problem with a person,
you approach that person and you put them to the
side and you have a conversation. You walk up on
him with a bunch of people. He know that you
really ain't serious, because.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I don't walk up on nobody, no a bunch of people.
I'm like, yo, and I ain't gonna make no scene.
And none of that. I'm like, hey, bro, listen, you
said something that was out of pocket. You know what
I'm saying. And then this is the other thing is
when other people jump on the bandwagon about cloud cloud,
(39:48):
what I need? What? How does that even equate to cloud?
It don't even equate. Like, it's no dollars that come
from that. It's nobody gonna let me go see him
now that they that they got it. No, But so
you forget how long I've been doing it, So why
would I need? And I'm talking about and when I
hear veterans saying things, I'm like, oh, so you're jealous
(40:11):
of what's happening right now. So so so now you
you trying to pick a side in order to get cloud.
You know how crazy it is for somebody who always
report about what other people doing to talk about somebody
else trying to get cloud. So you trying to get cloud?
That's what you do, right, That's what you do on
the radio, right, That's what you do on whatever you're
doing it on. But it's a it's a funny. It's
(40:33):
a funny thing, especially when you know in your head
the truth.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
But on my two sons, you start off the specially
by talking about how you don't want to fight no more.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Fifty Yeah, that's but that's a that's on the special.
I don't want. I don't want. I didn't want to
fight my son, and I don't want to fight my son.
Speaker 10 (40:54):
That yeah, that's yeah, you know, but yeah, yeah, but
you know my hand, you know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
I don't want to fight nobody though, I really don't.
But I don't want. I don't want to be I
have trouble with people lying on me though, because and
people are like, well, that's wives is so important, I said,
because of this Emmit till happened because of a lie.
You know what I'm saying. It's a lot of things
(41:30):
happen because of one lie. Propaganda is one of the
biggest things that happened to black life. Slavery was one thing,
but the propaganda of what was sold about us after
that is the most crippling thing.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Yeah, the mid old movie called Birth of a Nation
came out in nineteen fifteen, and a lot of the
negative stereotypes that you know that that were put on
black people were because of that film. A fucking film
called the Birth of a Nation about in nineteen fifteen.
I believe it was, and they made us that the
whole stereo types about fried chicken and everything came from
that film.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Damn.
Speaker 11 (42:06):
But I guess I do have one question. You know,
you said you don't want to talk about it much.
What has the conversation that Kat Williams is having done
to you? Because you're still successful in booking all the
shows and making all the money, so like, what does
him clearing up anything do for you?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
It's not about him cleaning up, it's about the lie
that's being told on you. You know, it don't work
for me.
Speaker 11 (42:27):
That's about the opening of the show versus like how
that happened? You been on the show?
Speaker 1 (42:32):
On what show?
Speaker 11 (42:33):
So there wasn't the conversation that you do. You had
a contract with the club, which is how you were open.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
See what you're saying, that's the guess the lie.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
You're saying, I don't even know the store, so that's stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
That's the lie. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (42:45):
So the story that from what he said and what
I read, was that he was saying that you only
opened up for him because you had a contract with
the club, not because it was something that was a
part orchestrated within the show.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Why And that's the and watch this. Nobody is small
enough to say, well, why would he have to pay? Then?
If I had a contract with the club, with the
with the venue, why would he have to pay.
Speaker 7 (43:04):
Me if he already came.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
If never catch a check? But why would he have
to give me a check if I have a contract
with the venue. I've never had a contract with no
venue to open up. That's why you would never find
another comic that said, oh, he opened up for me
at the Relying Arena. I've never even opened up for
nobody there. So the lie is he had a contract
(43:31):
with the venue. That's why he was there. At first,
I wasn't on this the other version, I wouldn't even
on the show. So now I'm on the show. But
it's because of this. Then it's the lie is. I
walked into the green room and told his whole crew,
I'm doing thirty minutes and ain't none of y'all can
follow me. You talk about nigga who don't even talk
(43:52):
to nobody at the shows, and who are the five people? Now?
You got to get your crew to lie, to be
still be a part of your crew, to say who
the fire people? Shema Franklin ain't gonna say that. She
ain't gonna say that because that's a lie. Which what
is nigga? What? Which? What is your problem? Nigga? Which
one is the problem? At first? You didn't know me?
(44:13):
Now I got a contract with the venue? Nigga? Where
you get that from? You just pulling shit out your
ass to try to make yourself look better because you
don't want that ass whooping? Did I asked you what?
Because nigga, I don't even understand. Then you said, you
put me out of the club. You need to put
me out of shit. I walked out to get my
partner ghetto and they wouldn't let me back in. But
(44:33):
I performed for two nights. That's the confusing part. But
if I, if I had a contract with the venue,
wouldn't the venue pay me and let you back in
and let me back in? Why would I have to
be there? Say, Ralph, you come open this door.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Did you really not cash the check cat gave you?
Speaker 1 (44:56):
The man? I do that shit in the trash.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
There's a lot of money, and that's a stemmy.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
It wasn't a lot of money for me. I was.
I was only there because I was asked to be there.
If I wasn't asked to be there, I would have
never came there. Oh and the other part of the
story was I came there and I was looking to perform.
Nigga looking to perform in Houston? Why would I be
(45:23):
looking to perform now this? And then it's crazy is
he's saying it as if this is modern day nigga.
This isn't two thousand, fourteen fifteen before you had all
the crew with you. Then we don't know each other. Bro,
It's not even about us not knowing each other. But
(45:46):
if people go back to Prayer View and m University,
damn near two thousand, what four or five, it's me
Kat and Alex Thomas performing there, thousand kids with pictures
for that we in shreport like I don't even understand what.
And prior to that, when your name was Cat and
(46:08):
a Hat, I booked you and Rodney Perry at my
comedy spot because I heard that you wasn't doing that well.
And then I reached out Sharon Balwan to tell anybody.
He faxed me his head shot. You know what a
fact headshot looked like. It's just like a blurred copy.
And you Nigga would have had a top hat on
and a cane.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
He faxed it this early two thouars, and I never
told the story because I couldn't remember who the other
comic was.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
And me and Rodney Perry ended up talking, and Rodney's like, man,
I don't even understand this because it was me you
and I said, what what what you're talking about? Ronnie?
He said, yeah, you booked us at this spy called
Cloud Now you was doing this thing called Uptown Saturday Night.
I said, God, damn, Rodney Perry, you were on the
(47:03):
other comic bro. So I didn't I didn't even understand.
I'm confused. I don't even know what it started, like,
where did where did it start from?
Speaker 11 (47:11):
It started from the was there.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
It started from me accepted, if you challenged Kevin to
a boxing match, somebody who is doing whatever he's doing,
he got time for you. Why don't you let me
get that match for that million dollars? Because I got
time and I want to I want to save this
ship that that happened at at the Houston over Line Arena.
(47:36):
Said this is what this is what I said on
This is what I said. Because my story ain't changed
since it happened.
Speaker 11 (47:42):
But it was the show, and then it was the
boxing match conversation.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
No, it was the boxing match first.
Speaker 11 (47:46):
Oh, I thought the boxing match happened after okay, and.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Then then it's all this this, this ridiculous is about
this show. And I'm like, bro, he said, yeah, but
he was on Willie Dee first with a whole nother story.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
I ain't gonna lie stories, ain't.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Gonna box bro the phone together noo yeah, and he
and I want to be there because I don't trust you,
I said, Man, you can trust me.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
I'm not gonna I'm not. I just wanted to see
what it is, though, because now and now you've Nene
said it's something way out of pocket, and I'm like, okay,
I say so. And then you said, what do he
say on site? Mean on site? Stop it?
Speaker 3 (48:31):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Stop it? Like bro, stop it? You know what I'm saying,
And like yo, man, and at my worst, at my worst, man, Bro,
you this is I'm with I'm with it whatever the
ring or the street, but I would prefer in that ring.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
You can't beat him in the rais though.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
You gotta be when you rob niggas, you gotta be.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
I was looking at this Netflix thing you posted. It
said what we watched the Netflix engagement report. I thought
this was dope. From December twenty twenty four to June
two thousand twenty five, if your specials were on Netflix,
you would be you would have three of them in
the top nine of the specials that they put out
from December twenty twenty four to June twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
That's impressive.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Those are Netflix. Those are Netflix numbers, right.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
So Netflix, I didn't, I didn't. I saw you posted.
But it's from Netflix.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
Yeah, Netflix, that's Netflix numbers. This and this is what
this is where where people will say about cloud and
the rest of this. I've put out a special every
year that the opposition has put out a special. Two
those are Netflix numbers. It's a it's a special that's
not on now. Somebody specially not on that in viewership,
(49:50):
who's special missing? It's not a special that's on now.
I'm just no, no cap no flex noning. I know
one thing in viewership is not a special. It's a
special that's not on.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
That was that the same time when it.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Can't come exact same time. I'm saying it's a special
that ain't on now.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
To be fair, Ali, this is from December twenty twenty
four to June two to twenty five.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
CAT came out the week after mind, the week before mine,
the week before.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Did this chat came out in April?
Speaker 11 (50:21):
This is still the first The IMDb is saying April nine,
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
He would be on it.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
I'm just telling you it came out in April. This
is from December twenty four. The June twenty twenty five.
CAT came out in April of last year, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
You ain't gonna look at me like you look at Scratch.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
You do know, you do know I dropped the specially
in twenty twenty four. He dropped down on the dropped
two specially twenty twenty four. Every year, what.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
I'm saying the three that you dropped all from twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Five, that's the twenty five list, the twenty four let's
say the same thing. Hold, let me look at it.
Speaker 11 (50:59):
I see here for Williams is may Fo.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
The one I'm looking at from December twenty four to
June twenty five.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
You know what came out of May? Domino effect? Domino
effect three that I bought.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
That that you got three specials in the top ten.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
I just know I ain't doing no chicken shacks. Some positivity, please, all.
I know I ain't doing no chicken shacks. Somebody said,
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
A chicken shack, said just I don't even talk about
giving no pres I know.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Hold on, this is big though.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Your specials Ill performed ninety percent of all Netflix specials.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
That's big, man, that's huge.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
And my two sons in the top five, that's right.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
And Ruggedy right behind it. And then the one, the
one I produced Marcus Wiley is not big, but I
produced that completely and completely independent. I know a lot
of times people this is one thing about black people.
They always say you need to be independent, you need
to be independent, but want you to be white indoors.
That's the other part about it. Want you to be
(52:00):
endoored unless you with a major Like I don't have
an agent, you know, I don't have no I'm not
signed to an agency, you know. So I just have
my manager, my role manager me, you know, my my
publicity team, and then my production crew that I work
with a big shot out to Eric Abrams. It's and
(52:22):
Matt Schuler. It's the what we're doing is like I'm
about to start distributing other people's specials, turning my YouTube
into a network, not just just not just mine. So
it was the test was was the same program that
I would do for myself, could I do that for
somebody else? And Marcus d Wiley was a testing ground.
So and it's not just that, well, we didn't just
(52:45):
shoot a special. If you look Marcus, we shot a
special and then we marketed him and then in June
Marcus went on his own tour. See that's the difference
between how you you teach somebody the fish versus constantly
giving them fi. I don't find no pride in Oh,
(53:06):
you know, Charlemagne been opening up for me for eight years.
I die. Charlemagne can't go on the road by itself.
But if you out with me for two years and
we build and we build you, and we give you
your own your own lane, and then we market you
in that own lane, and then we we lobby our
(53:28):
relationships to put you in these clubs by yourself, and
then you do that for two years, and then in
two years you in the theater by yourself. You know,
markets you the new special in September. You know, we're
producing this new joint September. So that's the way that
you you actually help somebody, not hold them hostage with
(53:49):
you for eight nine years and then they can't go
fish on their own. You know, that's that's a that's
a crazy mentality. D L knew I was leaving. Bill
Bell me knew I was leaving. I was with d
L for four years, out with Bill for four years.
But I and Bill always called me Bobby Brown. I'm like, yo,
I was leaving. The addition, you know what I'm saying,
(54:12):
I was, I was out and so in that in
that concept when it's it's other comedies, other comedy friends
that I have that I want to produce their specials.
And this is where you start to understand the industry.
There's some people who sent me their specials and I
didn't I have it. You gotta be so bold. I
(54:37):
ain't saying like it just wasn't it wasn't on brand.
So I gotta yo, I got the brand right now,
Like I knew he didn't like it.
Speaker 7 (54:51):
No what you said, it was a pamphlet, not a book.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
It's like you gotta tell your friends, like, hey, man, look,
I don't think this is your I don't think you
want to be introduced like this. You kind of want
to come out a little stronger than than this. I
don't want to hear that's real.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
No, da Jabelle throw and not.
Speaker 4 (55:24):
Donelle did his special during COVID and by the time
it was time to come out, it was it was
kind of dated, like the materials like that. So they
was like, this, ain't that you should you should go
back and do it again.
Speaker 7 (55:35):
Okay, why are you pause like that? Because he did
not have to just thrown that, didn't he?
Speaker 1 (55:40):
He He set it up here.
Speaker 3 (55:48):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
It's one of the things that you know, you want.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
To swing on Downell No, I like the cool.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
It's just with me, your writing. You're gonna have to
up your pen, you know, with me. In order to
produce your spec it has to have a beginning, a middle,
in the end. It has to have a through line.
Because a set is not a special. You know, if
(56:18):
people go on my YouTube, I never called what was it?
What was that? Don't judge your book by his cover.
I never called it a special. I never called pta
a special. It's a show. It's a set. But it's
not a special. The specials are Domino Effect one through four,
and then Rugged and My Two Sons, and I did
(56:42):
My Two Sons and Rugged to show man, don't don't
try to lock me in no prison box. Before I
ever did Mexicot on Boots, I had been doing stand
up for about fifteen years and I and I and
I did it because I didn't want to get caught
up in the whole prison stigma is a prison come.
(57:03):
So I never did any of the stories. So when
I my friends had heard them stories a thousand times,
and I remember bills like, Yo, man, if you don't
ever do this story, bro, I'm going to kill you.
You know what I'm saying, because this man's got on boots.
And then this story about feasts and I still haven't
done feasts, and that that's the That's one of the
(57:25):
funniest stories. That and then Brown Brown and Winn is
funny too, the bodybuild big dudes doing bodybuilding and had
me judging the contestant to give us.
Speaker 3 (57:36):
Give us one for you gon win one.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
Of them Brown and winning on my Instagram as a
cartoon now. But feasts feast is different. Feasts like forty eleven,
about five foot dude. But he has a huge afro
that he he ties down with a with a T shirt.
I wasn't gonna say Charlamagne, said Dafro. Then he pushes
(58:01):
down on the teacher. But it's out for it's huge.
This dude. This is why you gotta watch your mouth.
This dude. About six three six four, we on We
all in the cafeteria eating and then we heard you
can cuss up here. I don't like curs on royo.
He said, Pitch, give me some more pancakes. And we
(58:24):
knew who was on pancakes that day because Feast worked
in the kitchen, and we knew who was on pancakes.
And we heard, give me some small pancakes. And this
is when you kind of know that you were in trouble,
when the whole cafeteria quiet, all the races, all the
races are quiet, like white maskin Asian black. We was like,
(58:47):
I said, well, maybe Feast, this is what I said
my head. Maybe Feast took a break and he ain't
on the pancakes. And I look and Feast was on
the pancakes. I was said, oh sh came and sat
down and the Mexicans came to him first, Hey, bro,
go home. You know you need to go apologize the feast.
(59:09):
And he said, lo man, fuck that little bit.
Speaker 3 (59:12):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
I said again, I turned to somebody, said this nigga said,
white boys like yo yo my man, yo yo yo. Listen, bro,
you might want to go apologize the feast. I ain't
apologizing that bitch. This nigga keeps saying it. I'm like,
my head is burned. I'm like this nigga is wow.
(59:34):
And they they want him to go apologize because they
don't want to stop the flow or whatever was they
got coming in. So he get on the block and
I come to him. I said, Yo, my man, straight up,
I'm just being you know, real, you should go apologize that.
(59:55):
Nigga said, man, fuck you wearing feast. I said, damn,
fuck me, damn, it's wrong. I go back over. I said, don't.
Nobody said nothing said that, and everybody went to commissary
I'm talking about and bust a whole sixty. Hey, let
me get let me get forty soups, let me get,
(01:00:16):
let me get coffee, let me get that, let me
get some letters, let me get all my ship because
we're going to be on lockdown. We're going to be
on lockdown. I know what this is gonna be. Man,
our doors roll at four thirty in the morning, it's
five twenty. Them doors ain't popped. My selling this old
dude too. My I damn it, I ain't get to
(01:00:37):
go to the commons, Sara I said, Nigga, Yeah, it's gonna
be rough. Man. When they start calling Muslim brothers out
say the talk, say so, tell me what happened to
capterior I said, and I'm in there, talk aloud. I
don't know what happened. I don't I don't know what
appen been in my cell all day. Man feasts in
(01:00:59):
his and feasts been there, sins. Feast has the old
typewriter like this ship that he got. He got that
Harry Tubman type writer. And we looking at feasts and
feast looking like this and and feast don't talk, and
feasts mouthed to me, said he's been there since he
(01:01:25):
was sixteen years old. This man is in his late thirties. Brother,
it's ain't who you want to play with. And then
they called the cold and we saw situation and I'm
like that warding, like do you know what happened like
(01:01:46):
that was in my celle. I'm not even on that block,
but we could imagine what happened. Feast wasn't playing that
bullshit what it means? No, you know, we don't disclose
that type of out on the radio. We don't do that. Yeah,
that ask me that off. There's no don't nobody call Feast. No,
(01:02:11):
you don't call no man out his name, not in
that because you can't. You can't. The echoes too loud,
because if one person, you let one person call you
out your name. You on a unit with three thousand people,
you got three thousand people calling you out your name.
Your mental you think I'm strong, ain't. That's just one dude.
(01:02:31):
Now your mental capacity can't take your name coming from
Charlemagne to hey, bitch, you not gonna take that. And
then and then you gotta think in the free society,
somebody call you out your name, you can walk away.
I'm not wire like that. Hmm, I'm not. My My
(01:02:53):
wires is institute. You might you might well put a
gate around me. I'm like, cause that's the first thing.
Come mind.
Speaker 9 (01:02:59):
Who I'm so glad you changed your life.
Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Still big on that. I didn't even talk. I don't
talk about.
Speaker 7 (01:03:12):
Friends, and he'd be laughing at a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
I learned a couple of baits today. I'm that's right.
You don't call no man and you don't play what
what's the song? Yoologized? Tour in the shadows to Where
(01:03:42):
did they go.
Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
For the tickets?
Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Man? I go to a dot com or go to
Alice Steak comedy on YouTube, or go to ticket master.
Well you know whatever tickets are. So you know that's
one thing about telling tickets. People people call you as
if there ain't never been no concert. Man. I get
tickets to your the same way we got to Eric,
but they show niggas. I saw you, I saw you
(01:04:05):
moving your hymns at Eric, but they showed nigga. Now
you know how get taken because you know me.
Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
At the same website.
Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Yeah, you can get on Amazon. It should be on
Charlotte Maine's because you know everything he do is the
best seller? Can I can I get my pamphlet to
be a best seller?
Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Want the pamphlet? But what we're gonna do? Check your
email right now? Check your email. I put you on
during an interview.
Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Okay, I did I signed your book and everything you
don't wait to read quick. Wow, this is man.
Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Cut it out.
Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Man's supposed to be a quick some people, because you
know people don't read no long ass books.
Speaker 7 (01:04:53):
Exactly here talking about the long as book every day.
Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
When I when I see him talk about these are
the best sellers right here, I'm like, who waded the
big ass book? They just stamping this nigga ship. You
just give it to it, just gonna make it the
best of that big ass encyclopedia. Who read Nigga Jesus
and he got over that bike. He's like, I read,
I read the introduction. He ain't read that book. Right.
(01:05:19):
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Good morning, and turn that up.
Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Every day a week ago, clicks up the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
You finish for y'all Done.
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