October 13, 2025 • 33 mins
Today on The Breakfast Club, BIA Talks Debut Album 'BIANCA', Cardi B, Becoming A True Artist, Signing With Pharrell. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Don't every day click up the Breakfast Club Morning Everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's the j n V.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Just hilarious. Charlamagne the Guy.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
We are the Breakfast Club Lawnla Rosa is here as well,
and we got a special guest in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Comes out this Friday and it's called What's Up?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
What's going On?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah? You ready for this album? Girl?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
I'm so ready.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Yeah, like I've been ready. So this is just perfect timing.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I love that none of the songs sound the same. Yeah,
none of them.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
You got like a y'all listen to it. Yeah, I
love that and you it's like pop yo. It's like
cross over time like all of that. Because I hear me.
I mean I see some of the tracks. I'm like,
all right, I can see me shopping and and burg
Norum all the.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Way down to HM.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
And then you know, you got you got some good
some good music, car ride music, you got do your
make up music, birthday, birthday song, birthday, And then you
got a little bit of biggie vibe going on.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, we have a lot of biggies. That's what she said.
We were listening together.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
She was like, it's heavy biggie vibes, like baby.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Biggie going on the flow everything that you.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Come on.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Well, my favorite song with the album is the bad
Guy the Tone. That's how she coming even Biggie inspiration
at all, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Biggie, Sean fox Little Kim like that. We were listening mainly.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Like Foxy and Biggie Records that day and just trying
to like, that's how I want to come on the song, even.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
The beginning of which was a trifle, but she was screaming.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Like a big yeah, yeah, that was trifling.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Pray for my downfall, like pray my dad, like you
screaming on the beginning of that was trifling, right, Yeah,
you can tell.
Speaker 8 (01:48):
How intentional are you about representing all sides of your
identity through your music, Super.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
I'm glad you asked that question. I'm very intentional, Like
when it comes to the music, I just feel like
I'm a student of me. I love rap, I love
just the whole process of making music. And I started
with people that were really like you know, I started
with like Pharrell and people family that there's a really
there's like a really intense studio culture. So that's what
(02:16):
I came up on, and I really wanted this to
be a reflection of my years in music, not just
like one sound. And I didn't want you to be
able to expect what was going to come next on
the track list.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Whatever with Paralla and Fam, because you were signed with
them at one point, I think in twenty fourteen, that's
when I first heard it beer and you're not with
them anymore?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
What no relationship?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
I think like that that journey just like rent its course,
and it was time for me to kind of like
go and do my own thing and step into more
of like a business woman entrepreneur mine of like might
run my own program. But I'm so grateful for them
for life, because that's where I think a lot of
my like collectiveness when it comes to music comes from.
It's like just that whole artist development period, which a
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lot of artists don't really have right now.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I also wanted to know, but you, being Puerto Rican
and Italian, when we were listening to the album it
finally did come up, I was like that, I wonder
how come she didn't dive into the Latino side more,
especially because it's.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
One of the biggest right now.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
When you talk about Spanish music, you see what Bad
Buddy's doing, you see what all the Spanish artists do.
How can we didn't dive into that more.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I feel like when I make music, I'm very like
I'm a feeling artist, So like whatever is my feeling
at that time or whatever I'm trying to get off
is what I'm going to, like intentionally get off. But
I do want to work on like a Latin project
on the side, because there's like a lot of things
I want to do with different sounds and like merging
and fusion fusion them together. But I got a song
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with Becky g that I'm really excited about Hardway and
that's like to me, like you know, and with Young Miko,
and they're like two of my favorite girls, like on
the Latin side, especially too.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
This is your official debut album.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
How do you approach this project different than other projects?
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Like how do you say this is my album?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
My album?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
They you know what they say, you have your whole
life to like work on your first album. And I
always didn't feel like I was ready up until I
would say, like maybe a year or two ago. I
started to be a lot more intentional with the music
that I'm putting out, and they were like, you know,
of course, people called for you to have an album
at different times, and I'm like, I'm not ready. I'm
not ready, But that's because I don't think personally I
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was ready to like check my frequency and what I'm
putting out into the world.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
Why did you think he was ready? It was just
a personal thing, like.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, like I think I didn't.
Speaker 8 (04:31):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I didn't go through enough.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
And I think, like when you're a new artist, like
people are like, okay, cool, this is new, this is cool.
But I think people have to see the growth and
people have to see you like go through ship in
order to be like, okay, let me take a listen
and let me let me give this person a different
a different eye.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Then forgive me you die.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
What the.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
Ah you you said it was ten or twenty of
y'all on bikes. You was a pastor. That junk driver
whipped a U turn. You flew twenty to thirty feet
in the air. You fell on the floor. You hit
the floor like, oh my god, in my live you
look down. Your leg was split open. You didn't know
if you was gonna keep your leg or not. It
was bad. I did surviving that motor psycho accident changed
just the way you approached your life and everything.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I think at that time, I was just living so
fast and I was so excited to be doing music.
I just signed my deal with Forrell like maybe two
weeks before that, so I thought like my life was
about to change, like oh yeah, we on yeah, and
then it was like no. But I was still in
the studio at that time, like on crutches, just because
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I wanted people to see like, oh I'm serious about this,
Like it made me a lot more grateful and realized
like don't play with your time here, you know, and
don't play with people like because you don't know when
you're gonna lose somebody very quick.
Speaker 9 (06:00):
So what is it that you wanted to go through
to be able to do this album? Because I mean,
that's a life changing experience. You are signed at that point.
I'm sure you've had life before that, Like is it
like heartbreak or like what did you think you needed
to experience.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I just don't think I had experienced enough, and like
in terms of just life, experience, love music, whatever the case.
Maybe like I don't think I don't think I was
ready and I don't think that I cared about the
frequency that I was putting into the universe. Like even now,
I'm a lot more conscious of like what I'm saying online,
what I'm doing online, what I'm doing, and like in general,
(06:38):
just because it's like it's all a universe, it comes
back to you.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Well, a lot of that sounds like that.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
That sounds like imposter syndrome a little bit like you
had to deal with Pharrell, but you just weren't sure
who you were in that moment, maybe not sure of
the position.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
You were in.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Yeah, I think I always knew who I was, but
I think at that time, like Pharrel was trying to
help me develop, and family was trying to teach me
how to be a real artist. So for them, they
were like, Okay, do this beat, do that beat, do
this beat. And I didn't know what my sound was
when I knew deep down the side like oh I
want to come like this, but they're trying to like
help me widen my palette and like be a better artist.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
So I don't think I fully grasp that at that time.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
And then you were just trusting them because these are
successful creators that came before you, so you're just putting
it in their hands.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Just trusting it right?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Not really.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I think you just don't know enough about the business
at that time to know how to take the reins
on your own shit and like run it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
What slowed down?
Speaker 7 (07:32):
For? Be it right?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Because you had a trajectory to go through the roof
at one point, right, a whole lot of money came
out and did it remix with with Nikki? You had
records with j Cole, you had records with artists, and
you was all over the place, and then it just
seemed like it just stopped or it just slowed down.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Was it business? Was it labeled? Was it personal?
Speaker 7 (07:48):
No?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
It was never business label personal. It was more so
like trying to balance like touring and creating because I'm
a real I'm a real creator.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Like my favorite part about.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
This is going to the studio and making songs and
then going and performing them.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But like I love being in the studio.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Like they'll tell you can lock me in the studio
for a week, I will not leave, Like I'll sleep there,
like wake up there, brush my teeth and record there.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Like I love being there. That's my place.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Yeah, So like that's the only whole reason why I
got into this, and so at that time, it was
so busy. It was like show show, show, show, show,
and I was like I missed being in the studio,
Like I really want to go back to the studio.
So it was like finding that balance at that time
and also making new music and figuring out like, Okay,
what do I how do I want to come and
what do I don't want to just make bops like
(08:39):
I just I got to that point where I'm like,
I can make cool songs, but like I want intentional
songs that's going to mean something that's gonna be here
after I'm gone, that's gonna reflect my legacy and what
I'm putting out into the universe.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
So did you like a Whole Lot of Money because
it popped off TikTok viral right.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
It was one of my favorites. When everybody else didn't
get it, I got it.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So they didn't get people didn't get it before at first.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
A Whole Lot of Money was off for like six
months before people and at the time they were like, oh,
it's a monotone or his flow like she's wrapping in
that low tone.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They didn't really get it.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Now there's so many people rapping in low tone, monotone
voices like girls everything.
Speaker 8 (09:14):
So what moment in your career thus far has tested
your confidence the most?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
HM, I would say.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Getting out of my first deal, because when you leave
a situation that's so big and it's not what you
envision it to be, you think like, oh my god,
what's next? Or like am I going to be able
to top this? But I feel like I've always had
so like everything that came next was always bigger and
(09:47):
better than I could have predicted. And like, you know,
it's a cliche, but God's plan is literally like way
better than our plan. Like we could show up and
write it out, but how it goes is like it's
never up to us.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
Who is the person that was playing at the Sofi
Stadium that was taking you through with y'all? On the
album you mentioned you said you had shows and he
had something that Sofi And I'm like, well, that's the
NFL team that play at the stadium.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Dig into it. No, it was just.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Like a no album called if.
Speaker 9 (10:21):
You said this is your most most personal and vulnerable album.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, you could have said any other stadium you could
have life.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
You say that was very specific that gave Okay, I
just at that time, like I had been to the Sofi,
so I went there and then there was an NFL
team playing, and then had met a person. No, like
I had just been to the Sofi, So it was
just stuck out to me, like, oh, this is one
of those places that I was at. But on this album,
(10:49):
on Bianca Tinton, I feel like it's very very personal
for me. It's the most vulnerable I've ever been on
the album.
Speaker 9 (10:55):
Yeah, because there's another song too, the girl I was
alone with my wh would you? In the beginning of
the album, right, it seems like whoever this person is
or people could different experiences, you're going through it, and
then you get to I think it's like sad party
or one of the party or one of the songs,
and you realize.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Who you are.
Speaker 9 (11:12):
You like nothing you can't take back. I mean I
want nothing because you can't take it back from me.
And I'm like, okay, so whoever he was? She realized No,
I'm the prize. Yeah who was?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
They Yes, going through it.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
But it's interesting when you say that long because you're
the prize to talk about that being in that moment.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I'm so glad you said this, Lauren, you are tea
because when I talk about the track list, like I
literally take people through the track list and it's like
I'm like, Okay, don't turn me to the bad guy,
because I don't want to play for you, but like
I want to, Like it's like it's taking you through
like the day in the life almost of me and
kind of just like finding my way and like dealing
with different people, whether that be relationships, friendships, and I'm
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just like finding my way and you and y'all are
just coming with me on the journey throughout that project.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
So there is like love.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Moments in their heartbreak moments and yeah, because there's.
Speaker 9 (12:07):
Sad party girl, you might take a couple of shots
and oh n w f A is for the you
know what that's for because they will they will do it.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
That's about the men's that's about the men's.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Well, the person know that you're talking about them, the
one that you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
I don't know if he'll know, and I don't know
if it if it's for him, I think it's just
like that's like therapeutic for me. I'm gonna get off
whatever I got to get off at the studio. If
you offendybody it that's on you, but like it's I'm
here for me.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
You really feel like niggas will anything?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Absolutely what the Homeboys? You ain't anything but look like
anything at one point anything else?
Speaker 7 (12:51):
You are? You are anything?
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Somebody don't everything to the right person, don't.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But because this niggas is playing anyway.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
You think that, Yeah, I think a lot of them will.
Not everyone, but I think a lot of them will.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
What experience made you feel like that? Who? What did
she look like that?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Like that?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Damn?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It's so true.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Girl, Like if you really, if you go through some
of these phones, you'll see what's going on. I'm not
saying do that, but I'm just saying like they will.
They will do anything anything.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Damn Damn, nobody hurt me. I trust me.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I'm super heeled. Like yeah, for sure, I'm happy. I
know my worth. Like I'm not that girl that's gonna
be up like crying over a man's like or like
even begging him to like get it right, Like.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
What's the wireless thing you did? Be you got to
do something? Wilder man, kid call and what's the wireless
thing you did?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Laughing?
Speaker 7 (13:59):
At least pulled the knife.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
That's Spanish.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
I can't remember really honestly, truly, that would be like
incriminating myself.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I started smiling, So you remember something?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Something came and Italian she well.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
What does peace look like for you?
Speaker 8 (14:16):
In an industry that thrives on chaos and competition?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Oh? You you asking such great questions today. I was
a little worried about you, but I like how you
coming because.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
They all right, what repeat that look like for you?
Speaker 8 (14:36):
In an industry that thrives on chaos and competition?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Peace looks? Piece is like is a is a me thing?
Like like the piece comes from me all across the board.
When it comes to like my career, my relationships, I
seek balance and I just seek to be intentional with
everything I do. In that way, I don't feel no
type of way when anything happens, because I'm coming how
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I need to come every time, if.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
You get me.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
What I mean by that piece for me is like
I go to sleep every night. I could look myself
in the mirror with what I've done, and I have integrity,
I have like I have who I still am when
I came here, Like I'm not a different person than
when you met me five years ago. Other than success
or different money I've made, or like different experiences I've had,
(15:24):
I'm the same person.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
Like, well, what does piece look like? In the industry
that thrives off comparison?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
What does peace look like? You got to be a
peaceful peace with yourself.
Speaker 8 (15:35):
In this industry that you know that thrives off comparison
and like to compare people to everybody, Like.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Yeah, this person reminds me of this person. That person
reminds me of that person.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
True, you got to make a song like this person
because this song is popping.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Yeah, I don't. I don't really feed into that. I'm
not really that, Like I'm not one of those people
who are like shaken up by what people say, Like
I have tough skin. Maybe that's what it is. Like
I love competition, Leo. So I'm barking like park like
you want it, I'm coming.
Speaker 9 (16:05):
Like I will say, I was expecting because I know
we saw some step on piece and you choose in piece.
There were some piece chose on this album. Because I
didn't get a straight Cardi disc.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
On this album.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
I don't even know, Like why would you think that?
Speaker 9 (16:20):
Because when Cardi dropped her song pretty and petty asf
You posted in the studio and said, well, now I
have sixteen songs that you can name, so the fans
thought we would get a response on the project.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
It's not to say I don't have a response, but
I think, like where I'm at right now, Like that
was a year ago, Like, and what am I gonna do?
Like keep keep beefing with partisans like over and over again,
Like why would I? I don't want to do that.
You like, I don't want to do that, Like I
know where it started from. She knows where it started from.
(16:51):
Like the only thing I'm here to do right now
is to like make people pay attention to my album.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And like, if I decide to address.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
It six months from now, two weeks from now, a
year from now, cool, I can address it.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
But I could adjust it on wax.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
That's what I did the first time I went to
the she said my name, I went to the studio
and addressed it in twenty four hours, and then you
made me weigh a whole year. So what I'm supposed
to do bring myself back to a lower frequency when
I'm already up here.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Crazy thing is call me stupid? Back where did the
beef start. Somebody help.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I don't know la she would know.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Okay, I'll say, what.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Make a wish, guys, I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Just where it came from.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
So there was like something about you supposed to have
like a sex tape or something like that that she
Cardi said this when she was here too, that there
was like a sex tape that she had heard that
was circulating and it was from you. And then there
was but before that, it was like you make the
video that she made. Uh, there was like subliminals online
with you saying she's like stealing your style with the
(18:00):
video and like that whole thing.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Then it led into y'all back and forth.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
That on the right path, you're a master manifesto in
order to where you're going, alignment at its finest, you
can choose.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Where to go.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Now that's so funny. Are you are you still? You know?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I'm done? Okay.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
So where it started was there were fans that were
like bringing up similarities between like a video, a couple
of songs. I'm an artist, I write all my stuff.
I don't have the resources like that maybe an artist
or a bigger platform will have. So when I when
something like that is brought to my attention. It's disheartening
for like an artist that do everything on their own.
(18:50):
So when you see something like that, I'm like, Okay,
I set my piece. I like the tweet she called
my phone screaming like trying to like bully me or
me out of how I feel like. You can't hold
me out of how I feel like. That's just what
it is. So she that's where it all started. It
has nothing to do with a sex age. I don't
even know what sex age they I don't even know
(19:11):
what that's about. Like, there was a lot of people
also too that at that time that when I was
going to the studio to make my disc because she
dissed me first. So when I went to the studio
to go, okay, I'm going to the studio Ra Rah.
It was in Atlanta, so there was a lot of
different people that was in and out the studio hearing
what I was saying on the records, going back saying
stuff to her offset whoever they were saying it to.
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But that had like the stuff that she was saying
that I was saying I was not saying like they
even called like she even called me multiple times with
like managers on the phone, my friends on the phone,
like trying to get me on three Way to record
me do all this weird stuff, And like I have
real when I get on the phone with somebody, I'm genuine,
So my first intention is not like, of course, this
(19:54):
is like use it. Like when I get on the
phone and I speak to you, it's genuine. I have
no ill intentions. I know everything I said on that
phone call. I know everything I said to her about her.
That's just not how I roll. So like we could
have even had a conversation about it if you inspired
by somebody or you think somebody is tight, like it's
nothing wrong to be like if the fans pull out
that similarity, you to be like, oh yeah, I think
(20:15):
she's fired, but while you got a downplay and be like, no,
I didn't do that. That's that's not what I would
have fucked with that, Like that's not true. You know
that's not true because it's receipts. So that was my issue.
This isn't even about her. This is really about real artists,
like the artists that get up and go to the
studio and care about the creative and do their work
(20:35):
and have limited resources I'm speaking for them. This is
not even about her anymore. Like it's like I'm anti machine.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Like, do we have any visuals coming for Bianca?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of visuals. Okay, nice, bad guys
coming Okay, m hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Nice. You can't give me a little treatment synopsis. It's cute,
you'll see.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
You know, you talked about the machine, and it seems
like you've moved from being like just under major label
to carving out your own lane. Like what did the
industry teach you about ownership and solf forth?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Well, I own my masters and like so I care
about like you know, I have my publishing, my masters,
all that stuff I care about, like the business side
of things, because I didn't know about that coming in.
So when I did understand, like what all this is about.
My goal is to like teach younger artists and kind
of like mentor and feel that space of like what
I didn't have when I came into this industry. So
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that's really what's important to me. Like I just want
to focus on that, be an example to that, and
just keep growing my business on an entrepreneurial side, not
just like an artist on the front side.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
And you started on the sister to Hip Hop. Right wow,
So that showed would you say that helped you?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I think that a lot of people can look back
in my journey and be like, oh wow, like this
is a real thing. I started with like three thousand
followers I started with, like people saw my grind go
to the studio. So I care about the music for real,
Like I love music, I.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Love doing it.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
It's not really about I never care to be so famous.
I don't like date and put my business out in
the world, like there's so much about me that's private,
because I want people to fuck with the music and
I want people to pay attention to like what I'm
doing in the world, philanthropy, like community outreach ship like that,
and it was a.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
Lot of one. That show was another one.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
It's interesting that they actually made those shows for female rappers.
I guess to you know, have a platform and get seen,
and you actually have people who came from those shows
and had success on the song plus four four that's
a UK.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Country code, right, yeah, that's a that's a London country cut.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
And you're wrapping in like a little British actions. You
think they gonna see cultural appropriation?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
No, because I'm from New England.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I'm from New England, like you know, Massachusetts, New.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
New England, like New England patriots.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Like New England patriots.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I'm from New England.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yeah, exactly. Basically you know London, Jacob the song.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Said people be songs and.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
A song.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Okay, that's what all right?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
So London is like me coming plus four fors me
coming back to London.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
A whole lot of money in London plus four four Dad,
let's go.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Why are the songs on the album so short? You
want to leave people wanting more?
Speaker 7 (23:34):
Like?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
What what is it?
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I just wanted it to flow, Like there's some songs
that are really long, like sad parties, like almost what.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Three minutes and thirty seven seconds, that's the longest song.
That's the longest song, and it.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Got an outro interlude type of thing going on, Like,
so I just wanted it to flow.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
I love short projects.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I love projects that are like I don't know, I
just love projects that that I could just listen to
and like digest them.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
So I feel like it's like that. But I also
got R and B stuff.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
I've like a whole nother project done that I'm like,
can't I just I feel like this is just kind
of opening me up to different genres that I haven't
done yet.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
I was glad you had an album because I'm not
gonna front after. You know, we had Cardie up here
and he was like, oh, Bia wants to come, like yeah,
like that be it.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
But then I was thinking about it. I'm like, what
did she have an album or something coming up? I
didn't want you.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Up here just you know, yeah, no, crazy, this album
was done way before she dropped this, so you know,
I'm not even mad, Like I'm not mad at her.
She actually just like shined a big light on me.
So it's like I have no ill feelings towards her.
It's wrap, you know. I'm not like it's a competitive
it's a sport. Like you call on me, I'll call
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on you. Like it's not it's I don't know, It's like,
this is what I'm here for. That's what we're here for.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
How hard was it to keep a response record off? Though?
Speaker 8 (24:48):
I'm sure people on your team was like, yo, you
should respond for the fans.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
I'm sure well, especially because how fast she responded when
everything was happening. I got a studio in my house,
so like I read just for me to go and
get it off. I didn't want to have the same
like mentality as I did the first time, because I
did learn like the energy you put out into the
world is the energy you will receive. So I was like,
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how do I want to go about this? I could
say something nasty again, but it's like, okay, and.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Then what you know?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So you did a record.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
I'm just saying, like I'm always doing records. I have
a studio in my house. I record myself.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
So how do we make peace? We got bad Bunny
at the super Bowl in February.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
We want to see mad Bunny.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Bunnie this bad Bunny.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah, what do I have to do with I.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Want to.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
But she had it allience, so that's probably won't. Yeah,
I honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Man.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
It's is life like you let it go how it goes,
and it works itself out. I just show up with
good energy and good vibes and everything will come back.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Do you really do your own?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Okay, yellow, Yeah, they're jelx.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Sometimes I have a nail a nail studio, like in
my house.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
Yeah house, that photo you took in front of the
b A sign when you put posted that that was
in your house. That's the studio in your house. Which
one when you talk about you got the sixteen songs
weekending No no, no no in the studio, that wasn't
in my house. That wasn't a different But yeah, I do,
I got a nice house studio like I love my house.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Like I'm glad too.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
You said something earlier about you said you made these
songs a while ago, Like you just focused on that
because you know, even though it's not a shot, but
the mention of Stefan Diggs that line.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
People won't take it.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Girl, You're just speeling a lot and this you gotta
let people listen to this thing.
Speaker 9 (26:44):
Well, I'm just asking because when people see this interview
and they started talking about it, they're gonna make it
seem like it was something that it's not.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Yeah, No, I recorded that. It was just a bar
like I do, bars and metaphors. I could rap, so
it's bars and metaphors and bars and all throughout my songs.
But the not you wrote it.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Down, you can dig.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Yeah, just like Stephone, I didn't, I don't know it
was on plus for for yeah, it was plus.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
I don't know what.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
I was out today.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
I actually have a TikTok when I when I recorded that,
the day I recorded it was long before this.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
So I'll show you. I'll show you. I got receipts
for everything.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
For real.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I'm not a liar.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Like, yeah, you.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Craft a lot.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
I mean you make a lot of music that travels globally.
How do you think about building like a sound that
cross the borders? Are you do you just make the music?
Do you think yourself? I want this to hit here.
I want this to hit here.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Sometimes I have like that intention, like when me and
J Cole did London, I had that intention to make
a song that would be bring me to London. But
now like not just I just whatever the beat calls
for is like kind of what I what I give
influence to. This is my first time getting on I'm
a Piano Records because I have some really good friends
Tyler I Cu Khalil, like they brought me into that space.
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So that was really cool, Like that was my first
time experimenting with that, and I wanted it to sound natural,
not like oh b it's trying to make.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
It a piano song and even one.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
Thing, Yeah, I pray for you, and one thing is like,
is that is one thing that's not I'm a piano No.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
One thing's kind of like reggae Lauren Hill and fluent skale.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
You go from like house music to reggae to Latino.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
I was like, and yeah, it's all so good too,
Like how do you you're welcome?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
How do you.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
When you're trying to focus on what music you're putting
on an album? How do you know which ways you
want to go? Because it seems like you can do
so much as well, and like what do you want
people to.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Know you for?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
That's the hardest part my track list. When we throw
it up on the white board, there's like fifty to
one hundred songs. Sometimes we're cutting down from one hundred
and fifty songs like we are recording all the time.
So there's still so much music that I wanted to
see the light of day that hasn't made it to
this album. But this was just some of the songs
that I felt like was necessary and I really wanted
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them out, Like I told you, coming back to like
the energy I'm putting into the world.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Pray for you. I felt like that was necessary.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
One thing, a song for girls, like I just don't
want girls to always feel like they got to be
on some low frequency shit, like I want stuff that
daughters could listen to, Like you could listen to what
your daughter, you could listen to, which your you know,
like I wanted, I want.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
People to give.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I want to give people the feeling that when I
would listen to sometimes a Lauren Hill record like that
thing and I would leave with something or like listen
to TLC or leave you know, it wasn't just a
feeling of like I want to go shake my ass
and shake my titties. I want to go and like
put something good into the world.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
And I love that because we just had time dollar
sign up here and he had just he's also on
your album yeah crazy Fire like you. But he was saying,
what's what's missing? What should change about the music today?
I don't want to put wordsons off is the subject
everybody talking about the same shit, like what you just said.
You don't believe that all we have to listen to
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is low frequency shit, like you want stuff that my
daughter can listen to, my mother, your grandmother, you know
what I'm saying, so I do I do like that.
I will say this is not a question. I love
your voice, like your tone on any song.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Is you have that sound like if.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Everybody is not unique in the way where you can
hear their voice and you automatically know it's them because
a lot of people sound the same, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So I do I do love your voice and your
tone and all your music.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
It's just I want to ask you whose decision was
it not to go back in beef Right? And because
I'm thinking about it now, the sad thing is is
the album, which is a dope albem we listen to
it will get overshadowed by the beef Right and the
fact that there's no Beef there. I'm hoping that people
actually get to see who be it is and not
just somebody online beef And so whose idea was It's like,
(30:54):
you know what, I'm not going to do this. I
want people to see me, especially for my debut album.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Ah, I say it was my idea decision as a rapper.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
I even been going back and forth with it up
until yesterday, Like I going back and forth with it
every day. It's like, do I want to respond to
this right now, because but at the same time, I
would be doing a disservice to myself with everything I
put into this album making it about her, you know,
like when I could just go and I could drop
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something at any time, like that came a year ago.
I dropped that record a year ago, Like it's I
would be doing a disservice to myself. I will say that, like,
there's so much more importance to like my message and
like what I'm here for than to rap beef. I've
been out for over ten years. I've never gotten into
a rap beef. That says a lot about me, Like
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I have great relationships in this business because I carry
myself a certain way, So why would I ruin that?
Like I can address it at any time, but I'm
just here for a bigger mission right now.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
I like the fact that card you waited, though, only
because I just feel like this is still a business
at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, why not respond if you're gonna respond on your album?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
You know, that's what we always saying.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
You came from that school of Biggie and whole, So
you came from the school of you're gonna get my
album I'm gonna have these balls.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You came to the school to get listened to the album,
you could tell you, yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I'm just I'm just like on a different vibe. I
have like way, I don't know. Maybe I'm so happy
and peaceful in life right now, Like I'm so happy
and so peaceful.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
While you're in the album saying well, fuck you.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Niggid because that song I did a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
And I'm like, hey, I can always deluxe it.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Are you put it in the air, because you can
be like Chris Brown and put forty five songs on
one album. I'm still trying to the last one. I'm like, Jesus,
you know you would you ever do that?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Though? Like the Luxe Extended Album.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah I might.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I got a lot of songs still that like we
really wanted to put them on this album that they
I didn't. I just didn't want over a certain amount
of songs. So maybe I'll deluxe some, but maybe I'll
just put them on a whole different album.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Are we getting a tour?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Maybe we're getting a tour.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Maybe maybe Right now, I just want to like be
in your house, be in my being my album mode,
Like I'm like go outside, perform my songs, do spot
these things like that Gotcha.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Friday? Today, Bianka is out today. Ladies being what you
want to have the album, what you want to play.
I want to hear a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
You a bad guy?
Speaker 4 (33:30):
All right, let's play a bad guys.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Let's get in the bad guy right now. It's the
breakfast Club. It's being hold up every day waiting click
up the Breakfast Club.
Don't every day click up the Breakfast Club Morning Everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's the j n V.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Just hilarious. Charlamagne the Guy.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
We are the Breakfast Club Lawnla Rosa is here as well,
and we got a special guest in the building.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Comes out this Friday and it's called What's Up?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
What's going On?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah? You ready for this album? Girl?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
I'm so ready.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Yeah, like I've been ready. So this is just perfect timing.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I love that none of the songs sound the same. Yeah,
none of them.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
You got like a y'all listen to it. Yeah, I
love that and you it's like pop yo. It's like
cross over time like all of that. Because I hear me.
I mean I see some of the tracks. I'm like,
all right, I can see me shopping and and burg
Norum all the.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Way down to HM.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
And then you know, you got you got some good
some good music, car ride music, you got do your
make up music, birthday, birthday song, birthday, And then you
got a little bit of biggie vibe going on.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, we have a lot of biggies. That's what she said.
We were listening together.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
She was like, it's heavy biggie vibes, like baby.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Biggie going on the flow everything that you.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Come on.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Well, my favorite song with the album is the bad
Guy the Tone. That's how she coming even Biggie inspiration
at all, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Biggie, Sean fox Little Kim like that. We were listening mainly.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Like Foxy and Biggie Records that day and just trying
to like, that's how I want to come on the song, even.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
The beginning of which was a trifle, but she was screaming.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Like a big yeah, yeah, that was trifling.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Pray for my downfall, like pray my dad, like you
screaming on the beginning of that was trifling, right, Yeah,
you can tell.
Speaker 8 (01:48):
How intentional are you about representing all sides of your
identity through your music, Super.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
I'm glad you asked that question. I'm very intentional, Like
when it comes to the music, I just feel like
I'm a student of me. I love rap, I love
just the whole process of making music. And I started
with people that were really like you know, I started
with like Pharrell and people family that there's a really
there's like a really intense studio culture. So that's what
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I came up on, and I really wanted this to
be a reflection of my years in music, not just
like one sound. And I didn't want you to be
able to expect what was going to come next on
the track list.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Whatever with Paralla and Fam, because you were signed with
them at one point, I think in twenty fourteen, that's
when I first heard it beer and you're not with
them anymore?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
What no relationship?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
I think like that that journey just like rent its course,
and it was time for me to kind of like
go and do my own thing and step into more
of like a business woman entrepreneur mine of like might
run my own program. But I'm so grateful for them
for life, because that's where I think a lot of
my like collectiveness when it comes to music comes from.
It's like just that whole artist development period, which a
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lot of artists don't really have right now.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I also wanted to know, but you, being Puerto Rican
and Italian, when we were listening to the album it
finally did come up, I was like that, I wonder
how come she didn't dive into the Latino side more,
especially because it's.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
One of the biggest right now.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
When you talk about Spanish music, you see what Bad
Buddy's doing, you see what all the Spanish artists do.
How can we didn't dive into that more.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
I feel like when I make music, I'm very like
I'm a feeling artist, So like whatever is my feeling
at that time or whatever I'm trying to get off
is what I'm going to, like intentionally get off. But
I do want to work on like a Latin project
on the side, because there's like a lot of things
I want to do with different sounds and like merging
and fusion fusion them together. But I got a song
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with Becky g that I'm really excited about Hardway and
that's like to me, like you know, and with Young Miko,
and they're like two of my favorite girls, like on
the Latin side, especially too.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
This is your official debut album.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
How do you approach this project different than other projects?
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Like how do you say this is my album?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
My album?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
They you know what they say, you have your whole
life to like work on your first album. And I
always didn't feel like I was ready up until I
would say, like maybe a year or two ago. I
started to be a lot more intentional with the music
that I'm putting out, and they were like, you know,
of course, people called for you to have an album
at different times, and I'm like, I'm not ready. I'm
not ready, But that's because I don't think personally I
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was ready to like check my frequency and what I'm
putting out into the world.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
Why did you think he was ready? It was just
a personal thing, like.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, like I think I didn't.
Speaker 8 (04:31):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I didn't go through enough.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
And I think, like when you're a new artist, like
people are like, okay, cool, this is new, this is cool.
But I think people have to see the growth and
people have to see you like go through ship in
order to be like, okay, let me take a listen
and let me let me give this person a different
a different eye.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Then forgive me you die.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
What the.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
Ah you you said it was ten or twenty of
y'all on bikes. You was a pastor. That junk driver
whipped a U turn. You flew twenty to thirty feet
in the air. You fell on the floor. You hit
the floor like, oh my god, in my live you
look down. Your leg was split open. You didn't know
if you was gonna keep your leg or not. It
was bad. I did surviving that motor psycho accident changed
just the way you approached your life and everything.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I think at that time, I was just living so
fast and I was so excited to be doing music.
I just signed my deal with Forrell like maybe two
weeks before that, so I thought like my life was
about to change, like oh yeah, we on yeah, and
then it was like no. But I was still in
the studio at that time, like on crutches, just because
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I wanted people to see like, oh I'm serious about this,
Like it made me a lot more grateful and realized
like don't play with your time here, you know, and
don't play with people like because you don't know when
you're gonna lose somebody very quick.
Speaker 9 (06:00):
So what is it that you wanted to go through
to be able to do this album? Because I mean,
that's a life changing experience. You are signed at that point.
I'm sure you've had life before that, Like is it
like heartbreak or like what did you think you needed
to experience.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I just don't think I had experienced enough, and like
in terms of just life, experience, love music, whatever the case.
Maybe like I don't think I don't think I was
ready and I don't think that I cared about the
frequency that I was putting into the universe. Like even now,
I'm a lot more conscious of like what I'm saying online,
what I'm doing online, what I'm doing, and like in general,
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just because it's like it's all a universe, it comes
back to you.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Well, a lot of that sounds like that.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
That sounds like imposter syndrome a little bit like you
had to deal with Pharrell, but you just weren't sure
who you were in that moment, maybe not sure of
the position.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
You were in.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Yeah, I think I always knew who I was, but
I think at that time, like Pharrel was trying to
help me develop, and family was trying to teach me
how to be a real artist. So for them, they
were like, Okay, do this beat, do that beat, do
this beat. And I didn't know what my sound was
when I knew deep down the side like oh I
want to come like this, but they're trying to like
help me widen my palette and like be a better artist.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
So I don't think I fully grasp that at that time.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
And then you were just trusting them because these are
successful creators that came before you, so you're just putting
it in their hands.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Just trusting it right?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Not really.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I think you just don't know enough about the business
at that time to know how to take the reins
on your own shit and like run it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
What slowed down?
Speaker 7 (07:32):
For? Be it right?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Because you had a trajectory to go through the roof
at one point, right, a whole lot of money came
out and did it remix with with Nikki? You had
records with j Cole, you had records with artists, and
you was all over the place, and then it just
seemed like it just stopped or it just slowed down.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Was it business? Was it labeled? Was it personal?
Speaker 7 (07:48):
No?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
It was never business label personal. It was more so
like trying to balance like touring and creating because I'm
a real I'm a real creator.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Like my favorite part about.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
This is going to the studio and making songs and
then going and performing them.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But like I love being in the studio.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Like they'll tell you can lock me in the studio
for a week, I will not leave, Like I'll sleep there,
like wake up there, brush my teeth and record there.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Like I love being there. That's my place.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Yeah, So like that's the only whole reason why I
got into this, and so at that time, it was
so busy. It was like show show, show, show, show,
and I was like I missed being in the studio,
Like I really want to go back to the studio.
So it was like finding that balance at that time
and also making new music and figuring out like, Okay,
what do I how do I want to come and
what do I don't want to just make bops like
(08:39):
I just I got to that point where I'm like,
I can make cool songs, but like I want intentional
songs that's going to mean something that's gonna be here
after I'm gone, that's gonna reflect my legacy and what
I'm putting out into the universe.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
So did you like a Whole Lot of Money because
it popped off TikTok viral right.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I loved it.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
It was one of my favorites. When everybody else didn't
get it, I got it.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So they didn't get people didn't get it before at first.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
A Whole Lot of Money was off for like six
months before people and at the time they were like, oh,
it's a monotone or his flow like she's wrapping in
that low tone.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
They didn't really get it.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Now there's so many people rapping in low tone, monotone
voices like girls everything.
Speaker 8 (09:14):
So what moment in your career thus far has tested
your confidence the most?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
HM, I would say.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Getting out of my first deal, because when you leave
a situation that's so big and it's not what you
envision it to be, you think like, oh my god,
what's next? Or like am I going to be able
to top this? But I feel like I've always had
so like everything that came next was always bigger and
(09:47):
better than I could have predicted. And like, you know,
it's a cliche, but God's plan is literally like way
better than our plan. Like we could show up and
write it out, but how it goes is like it's
never up to us.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
Who is the person that was playing at the Sofi
Stadium that was taking you through with y'all? On the
album you mentioned you said you had shows and he
had something that Sofi And I'm like, well, that's the
NFL team that play at the stadium.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Dig into it. No, it was just.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
Like a no album called if.
Speaker 9 (10:21):
You said this is your most most personal and vulnerable album.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, you could have said any other stadium you could
have life.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
You say that was very specific that gave Okay, I
just at that time, like I had been to the Sofi,
so I went there and then there was an NFL
team playing, and then had met a person. No, like
I had just been to the Sofi, So it was
just stuck out to me, like, oh, this is one
of those places that I was at. But on this album,
(10:49):
on Bianca Tinton, I feel like it's very very personal
for me. It's the most vulnerable I've ever been on
the album.
Speaker 9 (10:55):
Yeah, because there's another song too, the girl I was
alone with my wh would you? In the beginning of
the album, right, it seems like whoever this person is
or people could different experiences, you're going through it, and
then you get to I think it's like sad party
or one of the party or one of the songs,
and you realize.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Who you are.
Speaker 9 (11:12):
You like nothing you can't take back. I mean I
want nothing because you can't take it back from me.
And I'm like, okay, so whoever he was? She realized No,
I'm the prize. Yeah who was?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
They Yes, going through it.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
But it's interesting when you say that long because you're
the prize to talk about that being in that moment.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I'm so glad you said this, Lauren, you are tea
because when I talk about the track list, like I
literally take people through the track list and it's like
I'm like, Okay, don't turn me to the bad guy,
because I don't want to play for you, but like
I want to, Like it's like it's taking you through
like the day in the life almost of me and
kind of just like finding my way and like dealing
with different people, whether that be relationships, friendships, and I'm
(11:55):
just like finding my way and you and y'all are
just coming with me on the journey throughout that project.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
So there is like love.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Moments in their heartbreak moments and yeah, because there's.
Speaker 9 (12:07):
Sad party girl, you might take a couple of shots
and oh n w f A is for the you
know what that's for because they will they will do it.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
That's about the men's that's about the men's.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Well, the person know that you're talking about them, the
one that you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
I don't know if he'll know, and I don't know
if it if it's for him, I think it's just
like that's like therapeutic for me. I'm gonna get off
whatever I got to get off at the studio. If
you offendybody it that's on you, but like it's I'm
here for me.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
You really feel like niggas will anything?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Absolutely what the Homeboys? You ain't anything but look like
anything at one point anything else?
Speaker 7 (12:51):
You are? You are anything?
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Somebody don't everything to the right person, don't.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But because this niggas is playing anyway.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
You think that, Yeah, I think a lot of them will.
Not everyone, but I think a lot of them will.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
What experience made you feel like that? Who? What did
she look like that?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Like that?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Damn?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It's so true.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Girl, Like if you really, if you go through some
of these phones, you'll see what's going on. I'm not
saying do that, but I'm just saying like they will.
They will do anything anything.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Damn Damn, nobody hurt me. I trust me.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
I'm super heeled. Like yeah, for sure, I'm happy. I
know my worth. Like I'm not that girl that's gonna
be up like crying over a man's like or like
even begging him to like get it right, Like.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
What's the wireless thing you did? Be you got to
do something? Wilder man, kid call and what's the wireless
thing you did?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Laughing?
Speaker 7 (13:59):
At least pulled the knife.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
That's Spanish.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
I can't remember really honestly, truly, that would be like
incriminating myself.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I started smiling, So you remember something?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Something came and Italian she well.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
What does peace look like for you?
Speaker 8 (14:16):
In an industry that thrives on chaos and competition?
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Oh? You you asking such great questions today. I was
a little worried about you, but I like how you
coming because.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
They all right, what repeat that look like for you?
Speaker 8 (14:36):
In an industry that thrives on chaos and competition?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Peace looks? Piece is like is a is a me thing?
Like like the piece comes from me all across the board.
When it comes to like my career, my relationships, I
seek balance and I just seek to be intentional with
everything I do. In that way, I don't feel no
type of way when anything happens, because I'm coming how
(15:01):
I need to come every time, if.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
You get me.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
What I mean by that piece for me is like
I go to sleep every night. I could look myself
in the mirror with what I've done, and I have integrity,
I have like I have who I still am when
I came here, Like I'm not a different person than
when you met me five years ago. Other than success
or different money I've made, or like different experiences I've had,
(15:24):
I'm the same person.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
Like, well, what does piece look like? In the industry
that thrives off comparison?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
What does peace look like? You got to be a
peaceful peace with yourself.
Speaker 8 (15:35):
In this industry that you know that thrives off comparison
and like to compare people to everybody, Like.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Yeah, this person reminds me of this person. That person
reminds me of that person.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
True, you got to make a song like this person
because this song is popping.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Yeah, I don't. I don't really feed into that. I'm
not really that, Like I'm not one of those people
who are like shaken up by what people say, Like
I have tough skin. Maybe that's what it is. Like
I love competition, Leo. So I'm barking like park like
you want it, I'm coming.
Speaker 9 (16:05):
Like I will say, I was expecting because I know
we saw some step on piece and you choose in piece.
There were some piece chose on this album. Because I
didn't get a straight Cardi disc.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
On this album.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
I don't even know, Like why would you think that?
Speaker 9 (16:20):
Because when Cardi dropped her song pretty and petty asf
You posted in the studio and said, well, now I
have sixteen songs that you can name, so the fans
thought we would get a response on the project.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
It's not to say I don't have a response, but
I think, like where I'm at right now, Like that
was a year ago, Like, and what am I gonna do?
Like keep keep beefing with partisans like over and over again,
Like why would I? I don't want to do that.
You like, I don't want to do that, Like I
know where it started from. She knows where it started from.
(16:51):
Like the only thing I'm here to do right now
is to like make people pay attention to my album.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And like, if I decide to address.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
It six months from now, two weeks from now, a
year from now, cool, I can address it.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
But I could adjust it on wax.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
That's what I did the first time I went to
the she said my name, I went to the studio
and addressed it in twenty four hours, and then you
made me weigh a whole year. So what I'm supposed
to do bring myself back to a lower frequency when
I'm already up here.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Crazy thing is call me stupid? Back where did the
beef start. Somebody help.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I don't know la she would know.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Okay, I'll say, what.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
Make a wish, guys, I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Just where it came from.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (17:40):
So there was like something about you supposed to have
like a sex tape or something like that that she
Cardi said this when she was here too, that there
was like a sex tape that she had heard that
was circulating and it was from you. And then there
was but before that, it was like you make the
video that she made. Uh, there was like subliminals online
with you saying she's like stealing your style with the
(18:00):
video and like that whole thing.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Then it led into y'all back and forth.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
That on the right path, you're a master manifesto in
order to where you're going, alignment at its finest, you
can choose.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Where to go.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Now that's so funny. Are you are you still? You know?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I'm done? Okay.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
So where it started was there were fans that were
like bringing up similarities between like a video, a couple
of songs. I'm an artist, I write all my stuff.
I don't have the resources like that maybe an artist
or a bigger platform will have. So when I when
something like that is brought to my attention. It's disheartening
for like an artist that do everything on their own.
(18:50):
So when you see something like that, I'm like, Okay,
I set my piece. I like the tweet she called
my phone screaming like trying to like bully me or
me out of how I feel like. You can't hold
me out of how I feel like. That's just what
it is. So she that's where it all started. It
has nothing to do with a sex age. I don't
even know what sex age they I don't even know
(19:11):
what that's about. Like, there was a lot of people
also too that at that time that when I was
going to the studio to make my disc because she
dissed me first. So when I went to the studio
to go, okay, I'm going to the studio Ra Rah.
It was in Atlanta, so there was a lot of
different people that was in and out the studio hearing
what I was saying on the records, going back saying
stuff to her offset whoever they were saying it to.
(19:32):
But that had like the stuff that she was saying
that I was saying I was not saying like they
even called like she even called me multiple times with
like managers on the phone, my friends on the phone,
like trying to get me on three Way to record
me do all this weird stuff, And like I have
real when I get on the phone with somebody, I'm genuine,
So my first intention is not like, of course, this
(19:54):
is like use it. Like when I get on the
phone and I speak to you, it's genuine. I have
no ill intentions. I know everything I said on that
phone call. I know everything I said to her about her.
That's just not how I roll. So like we could
have even had a conversation about it if you inspired
by somebody or you think somebody is tight, like it's
nothing wrong to be like if the fans pull out
that similarity, you to be like, oh yeah, I think
(20:15):
she's fired, but while you got a downplay and be like, no,
I didn't do that. That's that's not what I would
have fucked with that, Like that's not true. You know
that's not true because it's receipts. So that was my issue.
This isn't even about her. This is really about real artists,
like the artists that get up and go to the
studio and care about the creative and do their work
(20:35):
and have limited resources I'm speaking for them. This is
not even about her anymore. Like it's like I'm anti machine.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Like, do we have any visuals coming for Bianca?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of visuals. Okay, nice, bad guys
coming Okay, m hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Nice. You can't give me a little treatment synopsis. It's cute,
you'll see.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
You know, you talked about the machine, and it seems
like you've moved from being like just under major label
to carving out your own lane. Like what did the
industry teach you about ownership and solf forth?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Well, I own my masters and like so I care
about like you know, I have my publishing, my masters,
all that stuff I care about, like the business side
of things, because I didn't know about that coming in.
So when I did understand, like what all this is about.
My goal is to like teach younger artists and kind
of like mentor and feel that space of like what
I didn't have when I came into this industry. So
(21:33):
that's really what's important to me. Like I just want
to focus on that, be an example to that, and
just keep growing my business on an entrepreneurial side, not
just like an artist on the front side.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
And you started on the sister to Hip Hop. Right wow,
So that showed would you say that helped you?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I think that a lot of people can look back
in my journey and be like, oh wow, like this
is a real thing. I started with like three thousand
followers I started with, like people saw my grind go
to the studio. So I care about the music for real,
Like I love music, I.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Love doing it.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
It's not really about I never care to be so famous.
I don't like date and put my business out in
the world, like there's so much about me that's private,
because I want people to fuck with the music and
I want people to pay attention to like what I'm
doing in the world, philanthropy, like community outreach ship like that,
and it was a.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
Lot of one. That show was another one.
Speaker 8 (22:29):
It's interesting that they actually made those shows for female rappers.
I guess to you know, have a platform and get seen,
and you actually have people who came from those shows
and had success on the song plus four four that's
a UK.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Country code, right, yeah, that's a that's a London country cut.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
And you're wrapping in like a little British actions. You
think they gonna see cultural appropriation?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
No, because I'm from New England.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I'm from New England, like you know, Massachusetts, New.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
New England, like New England patriots.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
Like New England patriots.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I'm from New England.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yeah, exactly. Basically you know London, Jacob the song.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Said people be songs and.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
A song.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Okay, that's what all right?
Speaker 5 (23:16):
So London is like me coming plus four fors me
coming back to London.
Speaker 8 (23:20):
A whole lot of money in London plus four four Dad,
let's go.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Why are the songs on the album so short? You
want to leave people wanting more?
Speaker 7 (23:34):
Like?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
What what is it?
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I just wanted it to flow, Like there's some songs
that are really long, like sad parties, like almost what.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
Three minutes and thirty seven seconds, that's the longest song.
That's the longest song, and it.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Got an outro interlude type of thing going on, Like,
so I just wanted it to flow.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
I love short projects.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I love projects that are like I don't know, I
just love projects that that I could just listen to
and like digest them.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
So I feel like it's like that. But I also
got R and B stuff.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
I've like a whole nother project done that I'm like,
can't I just I feel like this is just kind
of opening me up to different genres that I haven't
done yet.
Speaker 8 (24:09):
I was glad you had an album because I'm not
gonna front after. You know, we had Cardie up here
and he was like, oh, Bia wants to come, like yeah,
like that be it.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
But then I was thinking about it. I'm like, what
did she have an album or something coming up? I
didn't want you.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Up here just you know, yeah, no, crazy, this album
was done way before she dropped this, so you know,
I'm not even mad, Like I'm not mad at her.
She actually just like shined a big light on me.
So it's like I have no ill feelings towards her.
It's wrap, you know. I'm not like it's a competitive
it's a sport. Like you call on me, I'll call
(24:40):
on you. Like it's not it's I don't know, It's like,
this is what I'm here for. That's what we're here for.
Speaker 7 (24:45):
How hard was it to keep a response record off? Though?
Speaker 8 (24:48):
I'm sure people on your team was like, yo, you
should respond for the fans.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
I'm sure well, especially because how fast she responded when
everything was happening. I got a studio in my house,
so like I read just for me to go and
get it off. I didn't want to have the same
like mentality as I did the first time, because I
did learn like the energy you put out into the
world is the energy you will receive. So I was like,
(25:11):
how do I want to go about this? I could
say something nasty again, but it's like, okay, and.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Then what you know?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So you did a record.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
I'm just saying, like I'm always doing records. I have
a studio in my house. I record myself.
Speaker 8 (25:24):
So how do we make peace? We got bad Bunny
at the super Bowl in February.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
We want to see mad Bunny.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Bunnie this bad Bunny.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah, what do I have to do with I.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Want to.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
But she had it allience, so that's probably won't. Yeah,
I honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Man.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
It's is life like you let it go how it goes,
and it works itself out. I just show up with
good energy and good vibes and everything will come back.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Do you really do your own?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Okay, yellow, Yeah, they're jelx.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Sometimes I have a nail a nail studio, like in
my house.
Speaker 9 (26:08):
Yeah house, that photo you took in front of the
b A sign when you put posted that that was
in your house. That's the studio in your house. Which
one when you talk about you got the sixteen songs
weekending No no, no no in the studio, that wasn't
in my house. That wasn't a different But yeah, I do,
I got a nice house studio like I love my house.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Like I'm glad too.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
You said something earlier about you said you made these
songs a while ago, Like you just focused on that
because you know, even though it's not a shot, but
the mention of Stefan Diggs that line.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
People won't take it.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Girl, You're just speeling a lot and this you gotta
let people listen to this thing.
Speaker 9 (26:44):
Well, I'm just asking because when people see this interview
and they started talking about it, they're gonna make it
seem like it was something that it's not.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
Yeah, No, I recorded that. It was just a bar
like I do, bars and metaphors. I could rap, so
it's bars and metaphors and bars and all throughout my songs.
But the not you wrote it.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Down, you can dig.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Yeah, just like Stephone, I didn't, I don't know it
was on plus for for yeah, it was plus.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
I don't know what.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
I was out today.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
I actually have a TikTok when I when I recorded that,
the day I recorded it was long before this.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
So I'll show you. I'll show you. I got receipts
for everything.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
For real.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I'm not a liar.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Like, yeah, you.
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Craft a lot.
Speaker 8 (27:37):
I mean you make a lot of music that travels globally.
How do you think about building like a sound that
cross the borders? Are you do you just make the music?
Do you think yourself? I want this to hit here.
I want this to hit here.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Sometimes I have like that intention, like when me and
J Cole did London, I had that intention to make
a song that would be bring me to London. But
now like not just I just whatever the beat calls
for is like kind of what I what I give
influence to. This is my first time getting on I'm
a Piano Records because I have some really good friends
Tyler I Cu Khalil, like they brought me into that space.
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So that was really cool, Like that was my first
time experimenting with that, and I wanted it to sound natural,
not like oh b it's trying to make.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
It a piano song and even one.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
Thing, Yeah, I pray for you, and one thing is like,
is that is one thing that's not I'm a piano No.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
One thing's kind of like reggae Lauren Hill and fluent skale.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
You go from like house music to reggae to Latino.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
I was like, and yeah, it's all so good too,
Like how do you you're welcome?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
How do you.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
When you're trying to focus on what music you're putting
on an album? How do you know which ways you
want to go? Because it seems like you can do
so much as well, and like what do you want
people to.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Know you for?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
That's the hardest part my track list. When we throw
it up on the white board, there's like fifty to
one hundred songs. Sometimes we're cutting down from one hundred
and fifty songs like we are recording all the time.
So there's still so much music that I wanted to
see the light of day that hasn't made it to
this album. But this was just some of the songs
that I felt like was necessary and I really wanted
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them out, Like I told you, coming back to like
the energy I'm putting into the world.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Pray for you. I felt like that was necessary.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
One thing, a song for girls, like I just don't
want girls to always feel like they got to be
on some low frequency shit, like I want stuff that
daughters could listen to, Like you could listen to what
your daughter, you could listen to, which your you know,
like I wanted, I want.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
People to give.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
I want to give people the feeling that when I
would listen to sometimes a Lauren Hill record like that
thing and I would leave with something or like listen
to TLC or leave you know, it wasn't just a
feeling of like I want to go shake my ass
and shake my titties. I want to go and like
put something good into the world.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
And I love that because we just had time dollar
sign up here and he had just he's also on
your album yeah crazy Fire like you. But he was saying,
what's what's missing? What should change about the music today?
I don't want to put wordsons off is the subject
everybody talking about the same shit, like what you just said.
You don't believe that all we have to listen to
(30:08):
is low frequency shit, like you want stuff that my
daughter can listen to, my mother, your grandmother, you know
what I'm saying, so I do I do like that.
I will say this is not a question. I love
your voice, like your tone on any song.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Is you have that sound like if.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Everybody is not unique in the way where you can
hear their voice and you automatically know it's them because
a lot of people sound the same, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
So I do I do love your voice and your
tone and all your music.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
It's just I want to ask you whose decision was
it not to go back in beef Right? And because
I'm thinking about it now, the sad thing is is
the album, which is a dope albem we listen to
it will get overshadowed by the beef Right and the
fact that there's no Beef there. I'm hoping that people
actually get to see who be it is and not
just somebody online beef And so whose idea was It's like,
(30:54):
you know what, I'm not going to do this. I
want people to see me, especially for my debut album.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Ah, I say it was my idea decision as a rapper.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
I even been going back and forth with it up
until yesterday, Like I going back and forth with it
every day. It's like, do I want to respond to
this right now, because but at the same time, I
would be doing a disservice to myself with everything I
put into this album making it about her, you know,
like when I could just go and I could drop
(31:26):
something at any time, like that came a year ago.
I dropped that record a year ago, Like it's I
would be doing a disservice to myself. I will say that, like,
there's so much more importance to like my message and
like what I'm here for than to rap beef. I've
been out for over ten years. I've never gotten into
a rap beef. That says a lot about me, Like
(31:49):
I have great relationships in this business because I carry
myself a certain way, So why would I ruin that?
Like I can address it at any time, but I'm
just here for a bigger mission right now.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
I like the fact that card you waited, though, only
because I just feel like this is still a business
at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, why not respond if you're gonna respond on your album?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
You know, that's what we always saying.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
You came from that school of Biggie and whole, So
you came from the school of you're gonna get my
album I'm gonna have these balls.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You came to the school to get listened to the album,
you could tell you, yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I'm just I'm just like on a different vibe. I
have like way, I don't know. Maybe I'm so happy
and peaceful in life right now, Like I'm so happy
and so peaceful.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
While you're in the album saying well, fuck you.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Niggid because that song I did a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
And I'm like, hey, I can always deluxe it.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
Are you put it in the air, because you can
be like Chris Brown and put forty five songs on
one album. I'm still trying to the last one. I'm like, Jesus,
you know you would you ever do that?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Though? Like the Luxe Extended Album.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah I might.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I got a lot of songs still that like we
really wanted to put them on this album that they
I didn't. I just didn't want over a certain amount
of songs. So maybe I'll deluxe some, but maybe I'll
just put them on a whole different album.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Are we getting a tour?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Maybe we're getting a tour.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Maybe maybe Right now, I just want to like be
in your house, be in my being my album mode,
Like I'm like go outside, perform my songs, do spot
these things like that Gotcha.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Friday? Today, Bianka is out today. Ladies being what you
want to have the album, what you want to play.
I want to hear a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
You a bad guy?
Speaker 4 (33:30):
All right, let's play a bad guys.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Let's get in the bad guy right now. It's the
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