INTERVIEW: Cam'ron Talks Petty Moments, Pink Horse Power, Paid In Full, Peace Of Mind + More

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Every day a week ago.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Click your ass up the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Y'all done morning, everybody's the j n Vy Jess hilarious,
Charlamagne the God we are the Breakfast Club. Law La
Ros is here as well. We got a special guest
in the building.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
One of the most hustling motherfuckers ever met in my life.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Ladies and gentlemen, Killer can how y'all been?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Good morning? Everybody? How you're done? How you feeling?

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Man?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Regular man? Get to be back and been.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Up here in a little minute before we before we
go anywhere, I just gotta ask one question, Yeah, are
you gonna do another project?

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Man?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Because you you play too much. You rap and then
you stop, then you spit, then you stop, then somebody
pisses you off and you wrap him like killer still
got it? Just do a project?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Killers, like for what? No?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Now? Of course you know you my brother, I appreciate that,
but it don't be making financial sense. Like if I'm
gonna do a project, you're gonna get merchandise behind it.
It's gonna be toll behind it everything else. But you know,
I do the freestyles on my show and here and there,
but as far as doing an actual project, and don't
be making financial sense for me. Like you see niggas
be rapping my age. It's only a few niggas who

(01:07):
could really go on tour. Who's my age? Niggas be
just thinking in their brain they're doing a lot, but
they're not really doing what they think they're doing, because
when you like, for me, I was on tour up
until twenty twenty with Covid Hit. I was on tour
and I just didn't go back on tour after that.
But every tour I had something lined up, not just

(01:28):
the show. It was shipped behind it. You know what
I'm saying, Yeah, it was shipped behind it. But I
keep the freese out far doing the album albums to
be last time, Like a great album is like two weeks,
you know what I'm saying, Like that's I'm talking about
a great one last two three weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
That's just don't last.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
But eve like an EP just you and.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Look look Me and Mace got some now, I would
do that. Me and Ma's got like nineteen records. Wow,
but I can't put them out like like I feel
like my hands is tied with this nigga. He'll getting
them mood and he'd be like, we're gonna come out,
and then they'll be like, nah, just wait and it
don't come out. I could play for y'all with nobody listening.
The world ain't listening. But Mace is really, really nice.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I don't know. I can't tell you.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
I'm like, he's like, he gets in the mood and
we're gonna do ship, and then he'd be like, we're
not gonna do ship, and what we got going on
now is too good to even question it.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So got the worst two slick talkers out there.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Work with them, but on some ship. Because y'all hear
me do the free staption.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Mace is like dumb nice, get busy like now I'm
talking about you know you ain't hear really rapping along
that nigga is nice, nice, like a real real problem.
I don't want to say he's better than me. I
wouldn't say that he's right underneath.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Spent on.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
It is what it is.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
I forced him dude out like two much for that
to happen. But but do you know what the problem
is for me? He sends me the ship. Well, I
told him just stop sending me ship. My nigga because
I'm getting frustrated he do. I think he do this
ship to tease me, to be honest with you, can't
listen to this, listen to this and the shit never
comes out. But I think he does it for therapy.
He makes too much other money besides what we do.

(03:07):
Mace makes a lot of money, and I think I
don't know. I don't want to say that, but music
isn't a priority. I wish it is.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
I saw you tell Memphis Bleep that Mace told you
that if you and Joel was the music, or you
and him even do anything that y'all put out, it
has to be like a moment because of all of us,
would that moment if y're hypothetically speaking, if it did happen,
what would that moment be?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Is it a Mace?

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Anything we do together like Mace, Like if we get
booked together. Mason moved for less than one hundred thousand
for him, and that's just being nice, Like he just
don't move. He do too much other shit to where
he's like Kim, if I'm not getting a hundred, I
don't even call him if it ain't like two hundred thousand,
because he doesn't he doesn't care, like he really doesn't

(03:51):
like what he got going on. He doesn't care about
doing anything else. So I'd be like, yo, mate, shall listen,
so and so on. The bookers for like one hundred
and twenty five thousands, like you wanna take twenty five?
And I'm like, He's like, Cam, You'll have to realize
it's some moment when we're together. We haven't been speaking

(04:12):
for twenty five for ten years, why would we take
that money. I'm like, Mace, it's just a look. It's
not a good look. So more of the story is
he basically says, we haven't been speaking for a while,
we're getting older. Everything that we need to do needs
to count. So kind of like when you heard me
say that with Juel's, same thing. Duelle's has sent me

(04:35):
to do a record, sent a record for me to
do probably five or six months, maybe longer than that,
and it was a good record, but it was like,
y'all be spectacled.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
We didn't do a song in fifteen years. So that's
kind of what you got.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
How did you and makes get back together? For people
that don't know, because there was y'all were going back
and forth for years and then.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Bill, Yeah, absolutely shot to Gillian Wallow. He went on
Gillian Wallow's show to I guess as artist was saying
that Mace was stealing from him or whatever, and when
he was up there, he just was like he basically
like shouting me out in the cool way. He's like,
cause you know, he did a disrecord and it was
kind of it was crazy. The oracle this to me,

(05:15):
He's I didn't really want to do that the camp
and I was like, but he said in the coolies, like,
Cam's my man. Then I went on Gillian Wallow and
then we talked and then when we spoke, we spoke
and we just kept it moving. But all because of
Gillian Wallow.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Basically click then how the show come together from there.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
So the show actually came together. We were supposed to
do a tour after we got cool met him and Jada.
That didn't work out, And so many people were inviting
me to do podcasts, like yo, Cam, do a podcast.
When you're gonna do a podcast, and I'm like, I
don't really want to talk to niggas for a living,
you know what I'm saying, Like the cause like I
don't want to have to talk to nobody, but I

(05:55):
do like sports. So I look at the phone, I'm
arguing with nigg is the time I hang the phone up,
it's just say two and a half hours of me
arguing with a nigga about sports. So I was like,
maybe this is something I want to do. And I
built a stage. I got to say on stage, I
built my own set out, and I said I'm going

(06:16):
to do ESPN mester hood. So that's why we were
suits on the show. But it was a professional setting.
And then after that I invited Mace on the show
as a guest and he's like, hen, what's going on.
I'm said, I'm just shooting this shit. I saided, I
got a budget. I'm gonna reach this budget and see
if niggas bike pause and he's like, you want to

(06:38):
be partners. I'm like, after I get my money back
on what I spent weekuld go fifty to fifty and
he's like, all I bet. So we did about ten
shows and a bunch of people called. So we ended
up doing like thirty shows and ended up getting a
really good deal. But after I did like five shows,
he's like my fifth guests and he's like, be partners
because I have nobody consistent doing it anyway.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
So that's how I came together.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I did y'all smoking shit.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Man.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
I think everything that y'all done in the media space,
what it is, what it is, and then talk with
I think y'all smoking shit.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Nah, I appreciate that. Thank you, brother, I appreciate it. Man.
It's all natural. It's all fun and kind of me.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
A MACE relationship is like just picking up because the
the shit we be talking about just regular high school
shit or shit after high school shit. You gotta realize
a lot of our public life was publicized. So Ma's
got his deal at twenty one. I got my deal
at twenty one. So a lot of shit y'all seen
music wise, it's been sincely twenty one years old.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
And I also say, you know, if you whatever, but
thank you for that. If what you build only benefits you,
it's not big enough. I love the way that you've
empowered somebody like treasure, you know what I'm saying. And
I know you got you like a whole production team.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
Then, and she has like a network or something for
her own where she can show up content.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Well, she has her own show.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
It's called check Out the stat and whatever she wants
you to do, she's able to do. We don't hold
anybody out. We don't stop nobody from doing what they
could do, what they want to do. She's big in
the streaming world. You know, I'm really twitching and all that.
It's like she's big with Casanai and her boyfriend's a
streamer and everything else. But she just turned twenty four

(08:08):
years old. So it's really dope to have a dynamic
of her being on a show because we tease her
about shit she don't know and then should turn it
back on us, like, y'all niggas don't know this shit.
So it's good different generations being on the show. But
definitely she has a bunch of shit that she has
going on with her show.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
It's called check out the step in the moment with
her you and Adrian Brauna that went viral. We had
a conversation about it up here, and when I watched
the moment, I was so appreciative of it, and I'm
not her just because I know what it's like to
not be able to like kind of say things or whatever.
When that went super vib when people were reacting to it,
how did you feel watching it because it was a

(08:44):
natural thing for you to just do.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
I don't really watched the show, to be honest with you.
We do them shits five days a week and I
keep it moving, so I didn't really I never watched it.
But it's in the moment your accent, like, but in
the moment see a lot of things y'all didn't see.
We don't we don't go live. We pre record. So
I stopped the show like six seven times and asked
him to stop.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
It wasn't like just once, it was like six seven times.
Because I know adream Brun. I have a relationship with him,
so I kept asking him to stop, and he was like, oh,
my bad, more my bad, bro, and he went and
stop and her boyfriend was there too, so I was like, yo, bro,
you gotta chill, and he's like, not killing my bad,
my bad, and he wasn't chilled.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
So basically I just asked him to leave.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
You know, I didn't really want it was some of
the parts that I wish would have got edited to
where when I came back and I was kind of
frustrated and I said some shit about him afterwards, which
I didn't want the air, but that was just pure frustration.
But in the moment, that's like my little sister, you
know what I'm saying. So at the end of the day,
if you keep doing that shit, you dispected her. And
then if I asked you to stop, you disrespected me.

(09:52):
So now you're really in my house and you disrespected me.
So I paid him for his time and asked him
to leave. Like I said, it ain't like he's a stranger.
I know who he and we got some mutual friends
as well, so but in the moment, it was just
disrespectful because it isn't like we asked you to stop
several times.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
And he apologized and people were mad at you because
they was like, yo, you, I guess they caught you
saying something.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
That's what I was talking about. I mean I was
saying that because when I sat back then, I was like,
I hate this thing. I don't really want to repeat
what I said. And He's like, basically, cam this and
and and there, why'd you Why did you say that?
It was purely out of frustration. That's like saying, if
y'all walked me out now and then you sit down,
you know, no, I didn't sit down for the edit,

(10:33):
and then you'd be like, Yo, this nigga, you know
what I'm saying. I said a little more than that,
but it's like that part should have been cut out.
But it wasn't about saying nothing to his face. I
said it to his face. I walked over to him
and actually escorted him out. It wasn't about a fighting
situation for me and nothing like that was just more
of a I think he was a little intoxicated and
he just needs to be escorted out.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
It was un accountable, smart guy.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
So any artist that comes up there that took your cold,
you're gonna pay hi out.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
You think about it is I'm not going terms Crawford's
I'm not walking up on terms.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
I'm not. But it's security there. It ain't just us
in there.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
It was just other people in the that's outside the studio.
So it isn't just randomly me just putting niggas out.
But I feel me and him was cool enough.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
For me to do.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
And I'm glad you brought that pink horse power. Yeah yeah,
because I can't order it discreetly.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't think I'm glad that you brought it up here.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (11:30):
I thought it was edible?

Speaker 2 (11:31):
What is it to take one?

Speaker 3 (11:33):
She could take one from man your time? So basically
the lover too.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
By the way, you call it okay crazy.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Back in the day, woe.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, this is all natural today. Yeah, it's all naturalists
from Africa.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Africa. I'm gonna show you the video so you.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Can see exactly where I went to get it, because
the thing about it is this, So they have this
in the city, different places. But what happens is I
know people in Senegal and it comes in on the boat.
And what happens is when it's on the boat, they
water it down, they double or double down, so it's
more when it gets here. And basically I keep a
nigga on the boat for two months to watch our

(12:22):
stocks so that we make sure we have the highest
potency of it. But it's all natural leaves, roots, trees,
and we just got the best product.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
It works.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
We've been doing this for four years, probably made close
to ten million dollars on it, and it's been really
really good. My man sugar Dugger basically runs everything right
now with that shit. But it's been really well. And
the thing about we are reoccurring customers, Nigga's coming back.
I guarantee it, like Frank Lucas said, Nigga, I guarantee it, Nigga,
like it's really gonna work.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
But Jess asks me how long? I said ten minutes.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
I said, I wouldn't go do that and go to
the mall, hangout with you mom, nothing else to take
that when it's time to go and.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Work for leaf fast.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Don't make you be crazy.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
No, everything is good, you see. I mean you know,
you know what.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
That's a conversation you gonna have.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
You gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Ill don't want to say too much because but that
has good health effects as well.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Yeah, I mean ginger gentsen, turmeric natural flay'all?

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Do I grab.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
And take one per day because some niggas drink the
whole time. Take one for the whole day.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
You got.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
You said they delivered you see. Yeah, it's like you
take take a.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's what I got.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
What conversations were you having where you were like, you
know what this what I'm bringing next with the pink
course power, Like who was your market study for this situation?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
The pandemic.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
That's when I saw it, Like I said, it was
on tour, nobody was doing shit but fucking at home.
And like I said, I knew somebody from Senegal who
actually brings it in and he was giving me something.
He's like, Cam, this is warded down. If you want
the highest potency, we could go to Senegal and I'm
like you seriously, I'm like, so I took the trip

(14:24):
and I've seen how niggas is manipulating it on the
boat and how because it's a lot of places who
say I got the shot or they be like I got, Kim,
what I got?

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Cam? Shit, we got the same shit. No you don't.
You are getting it from the niggas. That's watering.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
They damn bringing it over here and we're getting the
highest hope and see possible mask.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
Because what was your favorite viral news network moment? Was
it the sixty minutes joint? Was it the Bill O'Reilly
or the CNN drinking pink horse power?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Seeing that?

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Seeing Seeing then by far? Because first of all, like
Bill O'Reilly, I didn't know who. Bill O'Reilly was like,
I remember being a Rockefeller and they was like, Kim,
do you want to go Bill O'Reilly He's like big,
He's on Fox.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Y'all, y'all, I bet he's like, but I'm telling you can't.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
He's like one of these niggas this you don't I'm
telling you don't know, and he gonna come at you.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Pause.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
I'm like, good, let's figure it out. So I had
no idea who Bill O'Reilly was. I just went up
there and just debated the nigga, like fuck it, I
don't give a fuck. Sixty minutes, I was, manha, I ain't.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Gonna lie, I was, I was. I was super dupe,
behi you on sixty minutes, I was wild high and
pardon me. That was cool. But the CNA shit that
just passed.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
They kept calling me and I'm like, yo, I'm cool,
and they was like, yo, it's gonna be a puff shin.
I'm like puffs, questions and all that, and I'm like, nah,
I don't want to do it. Then they said, well,
we'll talk about other things. So I was like, bet,
could we pre recorded? I'm like, absolutely not. It has
to be done live. So in case y'all trying renig
on what y'all said, I'm exposed a situation because I

(16:03):
told you I don't want to be up here answering
a bunch of puff questions, and when we got up there,
I said, I do want it too, but you kept
forcing the issue. I bet, let's do it Pink Horsepower commercial,
the whole shit. So that's how that went. But that
was my favorite one out of all I know.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Sales was crazy, crazy, crazy, and to.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Be honest with you, that's kind of how to be honest.
How it kind of catapults it because sugars running around,
you know, going hand in hand. But Gilly Show sales
went up four hundred percent. Then I did that part
of me Norwy show. When I did Drink Champs first
it went crazy. Then I did Gilly Show and it
went crazy, and that was another reason I started the podcast.

(16:42):
I'm like, I get you the commercial for this every
day on my own ship. Matter of fact, sugar, get
some more back up here. Yeah, so hopefully the sales
appeal a little better after doing you Guys show Man.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Now tell everybody Cam is one of the petties people
I know, right, Yeah, I said, between Cam and fifty,
they are the two pettiest people I've ever seen in
my life.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Trying to do better though, No, you're not what happened.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
With Omar Gooding, So you trying to do better after
that happen.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
See, niggas don't be knowing the best story. So like right,
Omar good and part of me again, Omar Gooding. I
was on my show talking about bless actors black black actors.
No disrespecting him, but we all know his brother Cuba
is the biggest star. And basically I said, Omar Gooding Junior,

(17:33):
and he went off. He went crazy. And because I
hired him before for a movie I did, like twenty
eleven twenty twelve percentage. I did a movie with Queen
lad Tief and shot Kim. Shout to Queen the Tief
and shot Kim, and we hired him. So in my
segment of my show, I'm like, yo, it's fucked up
for the B class black actor because you got to
sit here and wait for somebody to call you for

(17:54):
a part, or if they do, who says you're going
to get the part? Like just sitting around and wait.
I was actually talking to Rich Paul and he was like,
I'm nigga should have came up with a network by
now all came together, you know what I'm saying. But
I basically was telling y'all telling him saying what I'm
telling y'all now, And I called him Omar Goodding junior,

(18:15):
and he just went crazy. He was like, how the
fucking mine, junior? When Cuba is the junior, you disrespect him,
you don't call him man out his name, and this,
that and the third. So I'm like, I got him
one this page. I said, you go look at the dates.
I said, my bad, bro, I didn't mean to offend you,
no no problem, now fuck that. Then he started doing
dish records.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
And I was like, his rappit wasn't bad though. That
wasn't that bad, all right.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
I put it on the pair. I said, this type high,
I wrote that shit on this comments. I'm like, yo,
I don't want no smoke, bro, this is I this
is dope. So did another one. I'm like, I bet
so I know how much you cost, bro? You know
what I'm saying. So I had a mutual friend. I
was like, yo, when you I haven't used him poison

(18:56):
a while? How much he you booking for?

Speaker 6 (18:58):
You?

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Like, when I need a movie seeing, I pay him
twelve hundred, said, but I got three. I got three
thousand for the nigga. And that's how that went because
he went and stopped doing records. And I already said
I didn't want a problem, and you.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Said, I'm gonna come up with a fake movie. Yeah,
Fike script, so you have to do this.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah, But what happened is he signed a paperwork, and
so let's just say I paid every three. I gave
him three thousand dollars because I know you wouldn't say no,
because he gets twelve hundred, So I said three thousand.
His flight was seven eight hundred and sotel. Let's just
say I spent five thousand. So once he signed up paperwork,

(19:38):
I'm getting ten times that for the episode, so I win.
I spent five, but I made forty five off of gotcha,
off of his stupidity for me telling you I don't
want no problem with you, but you won't stop. So
now I'm gonna give you five and make forty five.
And this content.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
At the same he was really another room watching and directed.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
I was and off a room, but I had a
ring camera up around the corner at one of my
cribs watching the whole shit.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
The old time, and he was trying to say that
he was going to take legal action. Is that possible
or like because what documents? Did you have him sign it?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Like whatever?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Adam?

Speaker 4 (20:12):
So basically my man who actually did shid my man
BBI one of my production companies, partners of one of
my production companies. We basically had him sign everything and
what he was trying to say he was going to
take legal action about everything was cool but the dressing room.
But he didn't realize what he signed was once you
walk in, we could use security footage, ring footage, everything

(20:33):
that we wanted to use once you walked in the building,
any camera we wanted to use. And what I did
was he had We gave him fifteen hundred dollars up front,
and when he came, I made sure the other fifteen
hundred was in tens and files so it looked like.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
He got a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
So when he gave him, we gave him to not
he was I knew he would just sign anything because
you know, when it looked for us, when it looked
like it's a lot, So we paid him like tens
and five, so it looked like he had twenty thousand,
fifteen hundred dollars.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
I don't know why you waited so long to do
to kill a comedy show, and I don't know why
you're not on stage.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Damn fun exactly now, I just don't be bothering people
and then I'll be like, yo, leave me alone because
I know where I could go with it, and this
is what happens basically. But yeah, thanks, thanks for even
bringing that up. We got to kill a comedy show today.
It's tonight at the Beacon Theater. Shy Man and Johnny

(21:31):
shipes in the building. He's the one that put everything together.
D Ray's going to be there, Jay Foul is going
to be there. Tony Rock, Chroy holcome.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah. Sorry, I don't know if y'all still be so
Will Mills and Ray Ray.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
So Pharaoh too.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah, So for performing Fergus performing is well, definitely,
y'all are all welcome to come. I don't know what
you guys are doing, but you'rell more than welcome to come.
But we actually put that together because I did. I
got a cameo in the movie Happy Gilmore too. Oh
yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah. Joe Vessey, he's a comedian

(22:11):
and writes with Adam saying like he's a big fan.
He's the one that kind of got us in the movie.
I'm saying this my man too. And he has a
stand up and he wants me to put it out.
I guess he's not going through the right channels. And
I'm like, Johnny, like I said, we're gonna put that out,
but he was like, let's just do a whole fucking
comedy show.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
We got out back. They sponsored. That's how going, So
we're gonna go on tour with it. That's that easy.
But shout to Joe Vessi for even giving me the
idea to want to do it.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
Oh, so's the Joe, that's what many what made you
want to get into comedy now because you've always been
for the funny right always.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
I'm being honest, it was Joe Vessi. I'm not even
gonna say and hold you when he said he had
so he has a stand up that's done and he
just wanted to put it into my lap and say,
cam do what you could do with it. And I'm like,
he's not on this show because paperwork kind of took
a while, but it was purely when he had a
stand up, and I'm like, I'm gonna find a home
for it.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
But why not put a show together after that? That's kind.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
It's really totally Joe Vessie that gave me the idea
to put a comedy show together.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
You know, you know, you know his dad, Peter Vesie.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
You want to comment, Joe Vessey is like a street
basketball playing all that shit too, man, So shout to him.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
That's how I came about dope, no more, no less, man.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
I gotta ask, where did the friction with you and
Dame come from? How did that happen?

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
It's nigga Dame like he was a manager partner with
your one time right.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Dame like Damed it a lot for me, you know
what I'm saying, Like, like today's gonna be my last day,
Dame dashing, Yeah, because it's annoying, you know what I'm saying.
So to be honest with you, pardon me, to be
honest with you. I feel like I got set up.
It felt like Dame had all this, all these problems

(23:52):
with me and never said it and was looking like
a reason to say it. I was in a terrible
deal of epic records. I grew up with Dame and
Rockefeller was up and he helped me get out that deal,
and then I actually signed me to Rockefeller. That helped
me get my group on. Rockefeller put out a platinum
album that Dipo Mats was born. It was a great

(24:14):
it was great, and he did a lot for me.
So I always attribute that not only I knew niggas
since I was like ten eleven years old, you know
what I'm saying. And when Rockefeller fell apart, he's still
my man. He's on my men last year. I don't
you know what I'm saying. He's been my man this
whole time. But to me, it's like a setup because

(24:36):
no matter what, so publicly, I've been giving this man
props for twenty five years and it hasn't been a
smooth twenty five years, but that's always been my friend.
I've never ran to the internet and talked about you,
whether we's having good time, bad time, whatever. What I
do do over the years is take breaks from me.
When I say that, it's like I didn't call him

(24:57):
Dan't for a minute. I call him next year, this, that,
and the third. And when he started talking about me
on different on different podcasts, I'm like, bro, what is
the fuck is this about? But he was guess he
was saying, Kim is not a man. He ain't calling
me this time, Yo, Bro, everybody's not built for your personality.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
I am.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
I just know how to take breaks from you from
time to time because I know your personality now. I
don't want to deal with it right now. But for
him to go to the internet start talking about me,
it was like, really, this is what the fuck me doing?
And when I seen that, I was like, this is crazy.
He kept doing it, kept doing different interview Yo, Kim this, Ki,

(25:36):
Kim this, and I'm like and then he talked about
The last thing was he said I didn't promote nothing.
We're supposed to go partners on with Anna Rupp the
movie and we did an album with a track, and
he said I didn't promote it. And I finally gave
feedback on why I didn't promote it. I'm like, I
didn't want to be in it. You know what I'm saying.
No disrespect, but that's how it happened. From their avalanche,

(26:00):
he's just crazy, started going to create Kim. That's Kim.
That Kim is even point where it's like, bro, now
you stretching the truth. You lying about a few things.
But that's where it all started from for me, this
and on rupt But to me, if you want to
just my art on my movies or my music or whatever, cool,
you start getting personal and start taking mad personal shit,

(26:21):
And I'm like, we know too much about each other
to be doing personal shit because this shit could get
nasty because I know a lot about you, you know
a lot about me, and I'm mad funny, like I
don't want to rag doll niggas my men on the internet,
especially like that's how I'm I'm talking Tom, but who
the fuck is you around to come out with a

(26:42):
passion teeth like you know what I'm saying, Like I
wouldn't that would let you do that because you're my men.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
I texted him.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
I'm like, yo, bro, whoever you're around, they you're not
around no real niggas because they would not let you
come on the camera like that. And that's kind of
how it started when I just on Earth and it
shit just got personal and it was to the point
where I'm like, yo, listen, man, this kind of this
could get nasty.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
And I spoke to Daniel. I know Daniel was up
here with him.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Daniel cool with me too, and so he kind of
mediated it and he was like, Yo, this shit has
done a good look for Halllem YadA yah yah yah YadA.
I was like, cool, I said, listen, it was a Thursday.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
He said. Look.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
I said, listen, I got something coming out tomorrow. It's
already done. If you tell him, listen, this is coming
out tomorrow. But I won't say nothing else about him
on the internet.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Cool.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
He say, it's cool. He said, cool, he's still talking
about me on the internet yesterday right now.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Compos on part fifteen exactly.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
And it was like, bro, I thought we were going
to talk about each other. Cool, it ain't no problem.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
But to me, to be honest with you, I was
tapped out when the NIGGA issued a three hundred million
dollar lawsuit. And then he tells Daniel to tell me,
you'll tell Kim to give me a million dollars and
we might let it all go away. I'm like, you're
trying to quiet this stort. Me Like, what are you
talking about? Send you a million off the three hundred million.

(28:14):
I said, let's go to court for.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
A real losses. There was cha GPT. I know that
sign from the dash group. We got one of those two.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Yeah, no, but got the fact that the nigga, even
there's supposed to be my man, even do some ship
like that, like yo for a million, they'll go away, Nigga.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I'm not sending you a million dollars.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I'm glad he didn't take your show off them because
he could.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Yeah, that's that's the point. Like the ship, the ship
that nigga be talking about to me, this like to
me and somethi disappointing because I looked up to him.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
And I'm just some point where I don't wish the wealth,
health and success, but I can't no more because like
you said, the king compone all that ship. You at
a point where you said, as long as your name saying,
the algorithm, even if it takes beefing with your man
to be in the algorithm that I swhere you at
in life, And I'm like, I see why niggas be curving.
You gotta think about this not just artists. If you
sit there and think about the artists that he helped

(29:07):
and put on, it's phenomenal. You sit there and thinking
about Kevin Hard and jay Z and Kanye on myself
or whoever, and nobody fuck with you.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Is that the artist is that you?

Speaker 4 (29:17):
You know what I'm saying, Not only that your day
one niggas don't fuck with you, Daniel, not saying Daniel
and his man, but like real Mac, all the niggas, bigs,
like niggas from your hood don't fuck with you. So
I don't mean this in a bad way because I
know You're gonna take this and this would be like
last another three four months for him. You know, he'll
take a spind at this kid, da da da, and
then I'll be seeing, like to me, bro, you try

(29:41):
to defame my character to where it's like, for what
my nigga, Kim's a civilian, all right, Dame whatever, I'm
a civilian. We tried to give you a million dollars
last year when you was in the news for owing
eight hundred thousand dollars. We Mason, Dame don't even got
a good relationship. They don't even fuck with you each other.
But makes felt bad and he's like, Kim, you wanna

(30:02):
spend five hundred thousand, five hundred thousand just so this
nigga don't got no debt.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
I'll do it, but I don't really know if we're
gonna make our money back, but for the for the
sake of Dame, yeah, I'll do it. And then when
the ship didn't go through, we suckers because you want
to wait on young boy NBA or Drake or whatever
other deal you had. We tried to give you a
million dollars just to clear your debt up and you
you basically gambled yourself.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Out waiting on more money, saying that you called his son.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
So basically, y'all probably be lost with all this ship
that he'd be going on. So he bought it up here.
He bought it up a couple of times. When he's
up here, he's like Kim is running around with this
nigga named Larry, and y'all probably don't even know, but yeah,
exactly so do.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
You even remember him saying that?

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Bring kept bringing up like, let me give your backstory
on Larry. Larry had to grow in Vegas where he
was meeting a bunch of rappers and everything, paying everybody
to promote his grow in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Dame met Nori.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Pardon me, Noory introduced Dane to Larry like nory knew
Larry first and he introduced Dane. Larry was paying Dane
five thousand a month to.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Promote his weed. Dame ain't Snoop Dog or whiz khalif
for to be like.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
But he's still giving a nigga the bread like iright
here supposed to give him three percent of company. I
don't really know about that part or whatever. But anyway,
not only that Larry's paying you to promote his weed.
Larry lives in Vegas. Not only that your son lived
with Larry as a grown man, so boogie. His son
lived with Larry for two and a half years because

(31:49):
he wasn't fucking with Dane, you know what I'm saying,
Or they didn't have a good relations I don't want
to say he wasn't fucking with him, they didn't have
a great relationship. He's sitting there, It's like, can be
with Larry now? Can't be with Larry now? Larry puts
up fifty thousand dollars for a movie. Dame heard up
fifty thousand dollars supposed to put thousand for a movie,

(32:11):
and another nigga put up fifty thousand for Mo Movi's
supposed to be one hundred fifty thousand. Dame tells Larry
when this lady calls, allocate the money to her, so
she may want twelve thousand, now, six thousand, now, seven thousand,
now whatever. When it gets to the fifty thousand, he
calls Dame and says, yo, I gave the lady the

(32:32):
fifty thousand. Dame goes off of you, dumb ass nigga.
You a vegas being da da da da sa. I
call this nigga a bunch of names, tolking about I
didn't tell you to give I didn't nigga's nigga's crazy. Yeah,
I didn't tell you to give her fifty thousand. He's like,
I don't know this lady. How I get a number?
YadA yah yah YadA. Larry hangs up on him, calls me, said, Cam,

(32:54):
I've been dealing with Dame when I deal with his
insults like this. The last straw been paying this man's promote,
the weed, I gave him fifty thousands for a movie,
et cetera. I just can't. I'm tapped out. Dame calls
me after we not fucking with Larry, I said, why not?
He said, He hung up on me. That's not what
real men do. Real men don't. Real men don't hang

(33:15):
up on niggas like that. How many times me and
you argue you never hung the phone up on me
the same I say, damn, I know you. Everybody's not
built for your verbal assassination or whatever the fuck you
want to call your verbal assaut Everybody can't take that.
You know what I'm saying, verbal fail one. Yeah, yeah,
you did a good job. So he's going crazy? Or

(33:40):
meet me hanging out live because I feel Loarry didn't
do nothing wrong. That man looked like your son lived
with him. He was paying you to do weed. He
put up fifty thousand dollars for a movie, and because
he hung up on you because you started insulting him
about fifty thousand dollars where he allocated it to where
you want to be allocated it too. He's a Vegas BANDMA,

(34:01):
I can't jack that, bro.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
I'm not. He's a good nigga.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
He's a nigga when we get the when we I
stay in Vegas now before we was coming big time gambler.
We have to pay for no hotels, comp set every
hotel take I take my uh my sprint ut. We
didn't have to pay for shit when we went to
Vegas and because he hung up on them. Now he's
not a real man, but he's trying to spend the narrative.
Remember I was telling you three people doing the movie.

(34:25):
The third person is suing Dame for the movie. Kim
is hanging out with a nigga who's suing me. I
don't know this nigga who's suing you. I know, like,
Lorry's not suing you. He's just taking the l on
the fifty thousand, you know what I'm saying. He like, Yo,
I'll take the olt. But Dame going around Kim running
around with a nigga who's suing me. I'm not running
around with the nigga suiting you. Larry's not even suing you.

(34:47):
But that's the narrative that he's pushing. So when he's
talking about something me doing so on the sunn his
son called Solarry's a producer on Talk with Flee. On
on My Show, Dame son called Larry as her for money.
Recently acs her for money. So like, like, yo, you
want to get book in the show. I'm like, I

(35:08):
don't give a fuck. He's like we're gonna give him
five thousand. I said, all right, cool, you interviewing him?
You were sinking an interview and I don't even fuck.
I text boogie for the producer forive writers. What do
you want to talk about the show? He says, his
music and his movies. I have to text message. I said, cool,
like give it to the writers. Two days later, Kim
trying to do shit with my son. That nigga's fouled.

(35:30):
Da da da da da da da. How you gonna
reach out to my son? Yes, son reached out to
Larry and said he was fucked up. Larry actioned the nigga,
do you want to come on the show? He said, yeah,
he took the deposit. He ain't sending the deposit back.
But now you spend it in again to where you're
fucking with my family. Da da da yah, My nigga,
nobody called your son. Your son called Larry Larry accent

(35:51):
if you wanted to come on the show, and that's
the name Larry. So it's just basically, I think Larry
is a super cool niggah.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Yeah. So now y'all know the background, right, and the
thing is for me.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
The last thing I will say about this situation with
Larry anyways, concerned Larry's white. My mom died of cancers
untwol and a half years ago. I watched her dog. Yeah,
I thank y'all appreciate it. I watched her die.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
For a month.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
She was good January eighth, went to the hospital January nine. Says, Yo,
your mom got about a month and a half to live.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Jesus, so she died.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
He's on this show talking about Yo, Larry need to
just be worrying about his wife. Larry's wife died four
days after Day was on the show because they I
was watching his wife die with the nigga like she
was a hospital, she was a hospital center, and she
went she didn't want to die in the hospital. She
went home and so with hospital so she could die home.

(36:51):
So Damon's on the show like, yeah, this nigga, like
I don't need to worry. He just needs to worry
about his wife.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
This is a nice guy.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
This thing ain't in the oldest ship I'm into. I'm
with all this shit. This is a cool nigga.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
You up there telling this man right, I'm literally watching
her die every day. So I'm like, yo, Bro, you
really don't got no boundaries. You just mad at Larry
for what nigga that nigga watched your son for two
years and make sure that nigga got a roof over
his head. And now you mad because he's not in
a lawsuit. He paid you five thousand dollars a month
and then you put his business out there. Who the

(37:24):
fuck said that the nigga wanted his business out there
about his dying wife because you know why, Dan, your
wife died from cancer. He watched his wife die on
the death bed from cancer, so he kind of get it.
But the end of the day, fuck is you talking about?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (37:43):
You need to go watch your wife and you don't
understand what that scenario is about. And that's what I'm like.
I wish you the best one, nigga, but you don't
really care because she died four or five days after
the interview.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah, that's it's a backstory.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
The only two questions I had about the dance situation.
I wasn't gonna bring it.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Because, like I said, it's done for me to that
you can fight by yourself. I'm not fighting with you.

Speaker 6 (38:06):
When you talk about him bringing up family. I didn't
understand why he bought up you having a scripple pole
in a house your mother was in, But he was
in there partying, had a good time. Did he tell
you that he had a problem with that back then?

Speaker 4 (38:17):
No.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
First of all, it was a two family home. My
mama wasn't on the side with the strip.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
But just to give some context to what's going on,
I bought my mom my house when I first got on.
She never wanted to move in the house. She's halem,
you get what I'm saying. So that wasn't my primary house.
I had a few houses still do. And she had
a stroke and she was like, she's not moving to
Jersey no matter what. I'm like, Mom, you can't run

(38:44):
around Harlem like this.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
So that's a New York thamest.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Right, never right, so right.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
So example is basically when she never moved into the house.
It's a two family home. I built my studio on
at the Strip club in there and all that. So
I'm like, mom, the house is still there. I'm gonna
put you on the other side house. It's a separate address.
It's not even the same address.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
So my mom is hood.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
She she didn't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying.
But you're acting like I had her in the bedroom
next to the stripper Cole. It's a fucking nother house
around the corner. But no, he didn't have a problem
with it.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
He loved it.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
But that's what I'm trying to tell you. He's trying
to defame my character for what reason. I have no
I have no reason why.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
I saw people reacting to that in the comments, like
talking about just how low that was, regardless of what
he was trying to do, because I think already knows
how you were about your mama, what you went.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Through, right, absolutely well, you know what it is. It
is that.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
And people might not have seen that part because I
ain't posted, and he still shouldn't have said it, but
he felt the way because when he said that shit
about Loarry wife, I was on his comments talking about
he ain't want his kids that he found out like
he had not Boogie found out he had another kid
and he took like eight paternity tests trying not to

(40:02):
find one to make.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
It our bed. So he got yeah, but he was
mad about it. So I was putting all that in
the comments, and that's when he did so like I said,
it was low. I was low, but that was low

(40:24):
what he did.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
But I get why he did it, you know what
I'm saying, because I would started spilling a lot of business.
That's why I said she could get messy ship ship
about his girl. I was in the comments. I was
all in there, like, bro, I know too much. I
don't really want to do it. It's more shot there.
I just won't say, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
So another week with the big thing.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, like, Bro, big Ol didn't even like you.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
My nigga, Big was from my block right and Big
Old brothers brother. He had a couple brothers. Bro brother
Big Lead kind of ran my block him and into
somebody else, a couple of other people, and they hate it.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Dang. They had a dame to the point where when
Big Lee came home, that's Big Old Brother. They ran down.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
He ran down on dam in miniscing like yea, you
owe me a favor, and then I dam He's like, yeah,
I'm gonna do the favor for him. I'm like, yo,
this is polite extortion. I wouldn't do the favor. He
ended up dying Big Al's brother, Big Lee, but he
did not fuck with you, and to the point where
you're even lying that me, you and Big L was
in a car somewhere. It's just it's stupid, Like you

(41:26):
know what I'm saying, I didn't know, I didn't know.
I didn't know, and you know what I'm saying. It's
to the point where it's like, Bro, when that nigga said,
whatever I need to do to stay in the algorithm,
you knew, Yeah, Like my man sent me a clip
to where it's like, yo, you know not saying me

(41:48):
and Jim I have the best relationship now and I
wish him the best as well, But it's to the
point where he's like, yeah, I ain't gonna lie. Jim
wore ping first.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yo. He said that three days ago, two days ago.
I'm like, what is that I have to do?

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Go bro, this is what I'm trying to say. He's
trying to throw me under the bus as much as
he can to the point where you'll say and do anything.
But I'm taking from it and I'm just not with
it no more.

Speaker 6 (42:14):
Another thing I didn't understand when he said you went
on the radio to announce you was VP of Rockefeller.
He said, you did that on purpose. He thinks you
did that on purpose because you knew it would cause
problem at the label. Correct me if I'm wrong. I
thought I remember you being on the air and you
was on the phone. I thought you was on the
phone with dam and you said damn again with the
green lights.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, that's what I remember.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
I don't remember exactly howpened. I ain't gonna say a
lot of you, but you ain't have a problem with
it all these years. Now, all of a sudden, you
got a problem with it, Like my nigga, I understand it.
It may of course friction later, But why the fuck
would I want to damn it? Some shit that's going good,
you know what I'm saying, Like it's probably the height
of my music career at that particular time.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Why the fuck would I want to damage that?

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Like I'm saying all the shit that he's saying now,
it sounds like he got ship building up and now
he's throwing lies.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Mixed in with it.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
But but you didn't make that up though somebody told
you that you was gonna be.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
No, he actually told me that.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
What he's trying to say is that I jumped the
gun and said it publicly when I shouldn't have said
it publicly. That's what he's trying to say. But it's
no way in the world you didn't tell me that.
And what happened was I went to my lawyer to
try and negotiate the deal, and I think I don't remember.
I think I wanted seven hundred fifty thousand. They was like, no,
we were just gonna make it the president. I'm like, nah,

(43:28):
fuck it. And then when jay Z must have came
back from vacation according to Bleak, because I shot out
the bleak, I did Bleak show Roxylity, yeah, and he
was just basically like, jay ain't like that shit. So
that's kind of how that went. But no, it's no
way I was making that up. That's exactly what you
told me. You told me you wanted to make me
and Beans vice president president. Whichever way it went, I
tried to negotiate the deal. The money wasn't right, and

(43:52):
I raousally jay Z didn't approve it.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
But how can he call you out on that and
then come up here and say he the chairman of
Revolt and nobody even told him crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
I'm just so glad hated to take cam show.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
That's how the super Vault had to be crazy after
that because they probably try to fgret what's going on.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
So so this is what happened actually when all this
ship was going on, and this is that series too.
Before it happened, Uh, Revolt hit me and was like,
do you mind if we work with Dame And I'm like,
because all the ship was going on and I'm like,
I don't really care. Like they's like, it wouldn't be

(44:30):
till twenty twenty six because, uh, you know programming while
it's the slots of field. So I have two shows
that I can put out starting this month that I
wanted to put out when that when dan You called me,
I said, Yo, no, not Danie T. I put it
on the on Instagram. I told Daniel about it, but
I put it on Instagram. I had two slots left.

(44:53):
I said, Revolt might want to work with you, but
it ain't gonna be till next year. But if you
want the opportunity you gave me, I'll.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Give to you.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
When I got on need to get off Epic Records,
you gave me a chance to do music and you
executive producer albums, I said, let me be give you
the same opportunity and let me execute to produce your
TV shows. You ain't gotta wait till next year. And
you was gonna give Revolt all your content for free.
That's how bad he wanted it. Pause and I say, yo,
I'll even pay you. Shot out to Big Findy that

(45:25):
was the middle man for that. So I said, tell
Dame this before I put it on Instagram, and Findy
was like, yo. The beginning of the conversation was cool.
He was like, I bet, he said, But before I
hang up, He's like, nah, fuck that nigga ain't producing
my shows.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
He can't do that. No, no, no, he can't do that.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
Ego, you was ready to do it for free, and
because you want me to, I can't because I want
to executive producer shows.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Fuck that. I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
You're gonna do it for free? Now you can do it,
and I can executive producer and give you a check.
It's just it was Ego. So then that's when he
went on to announce he's the chairman. And I've never
seen a nigga force his way to try and be
somewhere where niggas don't want him in my life.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
The ship was as Wow, Yo, all right, what.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
What stage of production or development is it in right now?

Speaker 3 (46:15):
The series right now?

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Fifties feeling still trying to finish up some stuff in Streetport,
because I believe he wants to do a lot of
stuff in Streetport, but it's probably not going to even
be to the point to where we do casting, maybe
not till April or May or something like that. I
think he wanted to just make the announcement, get the
buzz going because he's shooting like three TV shows and

(46:38):
eighteen hundred movies that Nigga that Nigga works, and he
does shows in between. But if I had to guess
a timeline, I would say probably April or May for casting.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
But I think it's some loose sense you want to
get tight in Streetport.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Because I want to audition.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
I haven't got time now, Nona. I mean, when it's time,
I definitely let you know. But that's what I was
always telling the nigga. Fifth when we were speaking, I say, Yo,
you put this announcement. I know he said he's gonna
do it, but you gotta give me some more information
because now everybody's hitting me, and like I said, not

(47:21):
in a good way, not in a bad way. But
it's just like I want when you ask these questions,
I want to have to correct answers. And I was teasing.
I said, Yo, you see how announced that the vice
president of Rockefeller and ship when left. I don't want
to be saying the wrong ship too early and ship,
but definitely I'll let you know, but I don't want
to give seeing an even announcement on this show with date.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
I'm just guessing right now.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
If I had to guess, probably April or May last,
because we talked two weeks about it.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
So does fifty have the rights to tell the story?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Like?

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Like?

Speaker 5 (47:50):
What's that conversation?

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Because so basically he has the rights to pay the
full I guess it was up and he brought the
actual rights to it. But he's gonna lo the movie
down to where you get outpo when he goes to DC.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
You get more of the preacher, the one who actually
kidnaps Rich's nephew. You get his story. You know what
I'm saying. You get dementsio. I know if y'all even
know about dementsia, you know what I'm saying. That's the
one of the people out po killed over a girl.
You get all these different stories that kind of was
sped up in the movie when you slow it down

(48:30):
throughout the series.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
When you think about legacy cam your legacy in particular,
when you think about legacy versus peace of mind, which
one do you value more at this stage of your life?

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Peace of mind?

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Peace of mind is everything being like you know what
I'm saying, Like for me to still be doing what
I'm doing at this age, and even MV knows like
he's been doing what he's doing a long time. For
us to still be relevant, having fun and still coming
up to ship like that do shit like this. You know,
people want to come up here and do this, you

(49:02):
know what I'm saying. But for me, it's more like
I get the fucking I love sports. I get to
talk about sports all fucking day, watch sports all day
and talk about it for an hour, and me and
Mace made tens I don't want to do another make
tens of millions dollars in the last two years, and
then to jump off of pillow off that and then

(49:26):
do talk with Flea and make a few million dollars,
like you know, that's when I'm at like, well, I
could build multimillion dollar companies of brands and don't and
be me. I don't want to have to do some
shit I don't want to do at this point in life.
So when you think of Pink Horsepower, you think of
multi million dollar company, and talk talk with flea multi

(49:48):
million dollar brand or it is what it is, multime
million dollar company. I just love doing this now, don't
get me wrong. I'm naming these shits like a hundred
other things didn't work, you know what I'm saying, Like
people don't see the shit that don't work. So a
hundred things that don't work. But just to figure it
out at this age like it's somebody be fifty next year.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
I mean, just but you figured it out early, like
you you figured out peace of mind early?

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Oh yeah, peace of mind absolutely. I get away from niggas.
I don't got time when people wanted you.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
It was like with care, I don't know, you bought
a cribbin floor doing nothing.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yeah, but you gotta think about this right.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
When you see And I'm asking y'all, this is a
question I'm asking when you see somebody and like I said,
I don't want to bring it up but I hate
keep repeating the blasts as the last day. Do you
when you see this person like Dame, do you look
happy to you?

Speaker 3 (50:35):
No?

Speaker 4 (50:36):
No, no, That's what I'm saying, Like happiness matters to me,
to happiness and being able to pay my bills and
all this other shit. You see when sometime when you
bring my name up to certain niggas, you just get
mad and they emotional and they be like, I'll be like, yo,
this nigg's angry, this nigga's really mad.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
I need I want to be happy.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
I want to be laughing, Like when you see me
and Mace on the show, we be dead ass laughing
to where we added some of that shit out because
we laughing that much like that shit is cool to
make money, laugh and go home and have a peace
of mind. That means more than me than anything else world,
Especially at this stage in life, what the fuck are
we beefing and arguing about, especially if you're making a

(51:15):
couple of dollars and then you don't want to be
beefing with the niggas you grew up with, if who
and not At this age in life, you don't have
to beat around niggas. But the end of the day
with the fuck How long do you think it's supposed
to be arguing with each other you know what I'm saying,
or just in general arguing with anybody.

Speaker 6 (51:30):
I think a lot of people on hip hop struggle
to transition into new chapters of life. So when I'm like,
when I see somebody like Cam, I'm like, I want
to ask, how did you find peace and purpose outside
of hip hop?

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Is it the other business?

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Because listen, man, I talk about that shitn't think about
that show all the time. I'm like, yo, and no
direspecting nobody out there. I'm just like, yo, I would
hate to have to be in a club for thirty
two hundred tonight. Yeah, forty nine years old.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Yo. You know what I'm saying, Like, Yo, that shit
with that shit would kill me.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Like YO, But some people you got to realize think
about this, right, Let's just use a better number. Let's
use five thousand, Sunday five hundred. I'm like, yo, I
don't want to be in there at Nobody's club, then
I don't want to be in for Sunday five hundred.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
But if you do that every week and you're this
age and.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Just do it three times you sitting there and saying, YO,
make twenty thousand a month, that ain't bad.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
You know what I'm saying, That's not bad.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Like YO, fucking nigga, I made twenty thousand a month
and I'm forty nine years old, and this is great
because you have a regular job and some people don't
make that. I don't think that's a bad living at all.
I'm just saying that isn't where I want to be,
you know what I'm saying. So definitely peace of mind.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Over also too with Harlem Man, Yo Harlem. People talk
about Harlem like it's Harvard mean to you today compared
to when you were like eighteen.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
It ain't the same for me, you know what I'm saying,
not at all. That's a great question because it's so gentrified.
It's just not the same. And I may say I'm
ignorant for saying it, but I missed the abandoned buildings.
I missed the vacant lots and going up driving, you know,
walking to school and almost stepping on glass. Not saying

(53:23):
that's good and you shouldn't improve from that, but that's
just my memory of Harlem. Like when I see red
lobster one twenty fifty, like and h and them. I'll
be like, this is crazy, you know what I'm saying.
But it's gentrified and you know, to me everything, but
you think about this too. Right where I live is gentrified.

(53:44):
It's like with this nigga doing over here, you know
what I'm saying. So you might got somebody white, like yeo,
what the fucking remember when it was all white over here?
You know what I'm saying. So it's a balance. But
just for me, Harlem isn't what it used to be.
I'm not saying Harlem still ain't Harlem today, but just
not the Halem I grew up with.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
My man I shoot.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
I sometimes shoot videos in this building and shit like that,
and he's like, cam, y'all talk to the building manager.
I'm like, all right, who is it? And the dude's white.
It's like, yo, well I thought you was the man.
He's like, now I sold my apartment to the nigga
and now he's the manager. So now I got to
talk to somebody white and go into a building that
I've been going to my whole life to get permission
to shoot something on a roof.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
So for me, it's not the same. But I understand
it when you.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
Talk about Harlem. I know you mentioned earlier you and
Jim's relationship not being the same. That's not like we're
never going to get to see that sit down Conbo
reunion like anything at all.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
I mean, like I said, I just think they were
in two different spaces in life, and that I mean,
I don't wishing well and I don't mean Jewel's and
everybody that was part of what we did. I think
it was a great movement, but sometimes things just come
to an end. So I'm not I wouldn't never say never,
but it doesn't look like it's in the their future.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
But I do wish them brothers.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
Well, what do you hope people say about Cam twenty
years from now more? In particular, what what do you
hope people say you stood for?

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Well?

Speaker 4 (55:11):
Whatever, But if you rich sit there and watch everything
that I did since I've been twenty twenty one years old,
it's about helping people. Of course helping myself as well.
But I always tried to make sure everybody, despite what
anybody says, tried to make sure people around me had
money or was getting money, because I never wanted nobody
to have to ask me for money.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
You know.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
It was one of those situations where I'm like, even
even with Jimmy, thinking about Jim, Jim wasn't a rapper.
It's like, Yo, we're gonna make you a rapper, my nigga.
You know what I'm saying, Like, Yo, you ain't gonna
be around and not not a rap you know what
I'm saying. And I think Jim is one of the
people that's grown more than anybody from the time he
started to where he's at today as far as music
is concerned.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
He didn't know how to rap. You taught him how
to rap.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
He's my hype man to where he's director videos to
he had a job at jim or he's doing albums,
and I think right now people will respecting him lyrically
more than anything else. But it was about always helping people.
Even Jeel's Jewel's was in a bad deal. He's in
a group called the Draft Picks. I'm like, I think
I like you a little better than your partner. I
can get you out the deal. Let's try and get

(56:17):
you out to deal. Everybody on with has made money.
While they kept money, it didn't keep money. Even other
people that was on the label, which I won't need.
It was always about putting everybody on and trying to
make sure that they had a couple of dollars because
I didn't want people to have to ask me for
money that was around. So even like this nigga back
kids paining horse poun, I'm glad he found this lane

(56:38):
because he was running out of.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Town comedy show man tonight.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Thank you for coming. Get your tickets if you haven't
got it, and where can they where where can they
order this at if they need daughter.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
Before you to make sure you go to pink Hyphen
horsepower dot net. Is gonna lead you to the new
website because it's a new website. I don't know off
the top, but it directs you to the website. So
pink Hyphen horsepower dot net and make sure you go
order some.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
You know what if you said is for men or.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
So listen reason I was telling you if you take
it home, not for you to take.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
To you.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
That's what I'm basically saying.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
But for the last thing, for the last thing I'll
say in this not one hundred percent closed complex con
if anybody's gonna be out there in Vegas coming up.
Me and Sexy right the doing the drop of horsepower
and whatever she got. I don't want to say the
wrong name, but we're gonna package it together. We're gonna
do a special drop for her sex pill for women.

(57:50):
So so we'll try and send you something because she
has something for women, I got something for men, and
then you can take sexy res.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Joint makes sense.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
It's Cameron Breakfast Club Morning call again. Hold up every
day a wake, wake your glass up.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
The Breakfast Club finish for y'all. Done,