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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yep, it's the world mos Dangerous morning show to Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne the God, DJ Envy and Jess Hilarius had to
step out, but Lauren lerosay his heir and I got
my guy, the CEO and found of the Young Turks Network,
sink it was weger right, Jank.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Uger, Jank Youuger?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I know, I know it's a giant paint of ass.
This ass like a jay what and youger? How are
you even gonna say? That's not even the Turkish way
of saying. But we're just trying to get along, man,
it's my guid though. Uh you know, I can't pronounce nothing.
But how are you, sir? I'm good, I'm good brother.
How you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I am blessed, black and highly favored. Man.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You got this initiative that you have that you're launching,
that you're trying to recruit democrats who lean into left
wing populism.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You got that right?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What does that look like?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So that looks like some of what Trump promised. Hey,
I'm gonna delivered for the average guy and I hate
the establishment, et cetera. But of course he was full
of crap, and he didn't mean it. And so we
said on the Young Church his brother, all he's going
to do is do tax us for the rich, right,
So that's what he did, and that's what he wants
find naturally, dollars and tax cuts for corporations, et cetera.
So what we're saying is, how about we actually delivered
(01:09):
for the average guy. Higher wages, okay, lower drug prices,
paid family leave so you can get a little bit
of time off when you have a kid, money out
of politics and the wars, and lower housing prices. So
but in order to do that, you've got to take
on big drug companies. You have to take on private
equity that's buying our residential homes and driving up the prices.
(01:31):
And so the reason that the Democrats haven't done in
the past is because they're too wedded to the donor class.
And so we're saying, let's bring the Democratic Party back
to what it was. So what it was was serving
the average guy, solid security, Medicare, Medicaid, all these, by
the way, super popular programs. So let's go back to
passing bills, delivering for people, and let's get the Democratic
(01:52):
Party back in kick Trump's ass.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
You know, I was gonna say, what ald you talk
about his economic populism?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Oh? Yeah, yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
But is that because people always say this stuff and
then even when they get in a position, it's there's
so much you got to fight through so many different
tiers of like the House, and you know the people
that don't agree. So how realistic is it? And what
does that time that look like? Because when you were
saying it, I'm not gonna say it in my time here,
it's gonna be generation generations.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, Lauren, I love that question. Okay, because you're right,
that's exactly the question everybody should ask. Okay, because Democrats
get in and then they never do it right, and
so I get super frustrated. First thing they took out
of the bill, the COVID relief bill under Biden was
fifteen dollars minum wage. Now, if you do fifteen dollars
minute wage, you not only raise people's wages to the
tune of about ninety two billion dollars, right, that goes
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from the richest people in the country, the people who
need it the most, who are working, right, but you
also raise the wages above that. And then whenever you
go to do that. They go, oh, no, you can't
do that because that'll drive up inflation. No, inflation is
already here. I need my wages to go up to
keep up with it, right, So why don't we ever
pass any of those things because of the donor class.
So so look, you know, if you're a Democrat, I
(02:58):
hate to break it to you, right. So if you're
a Republican, I got terrible news for you, okay, But
if you're a Democrat, I got bad news, which is
that Biden and all those guys they never meant it.
They never That's why they took fifteen dollar minu wage
right out of the bill. So why are we different
a no corporate donors. No candidate is allowed to take
corporate pac money if they're with rebellion pack. And so
(03:19):
so far we got Rocanna, the first guy who said
no corporate pac money at all, and he's awesome, and
he's the one that worked with Bernie to get fifteen
dollar minum wage at Amazon. And when they first started that,
they're like, oh, you're not gonna be able to pressure Amazon.
You don't have any power. What are you guys gonna do?
You Progressive, you know, you're always rabble rousing, and guess
what they got fifty dollarmenum wage at Amazon. Right, So
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Roseman delivering throughout. Now we got Richard O. Jetta running
in North Carolina. Nine That brother almost beat somebody in
West Virginia when he was down fifty when that's a
R plus fifty four. So what But when we get
in Lauren, if we don't deliver like here, I'll put
the first one up on the board. Paid family leave,
so that's twelve weeks off from moms after they have
a baby. Use that.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, No, I have a baby, but my mom was sick,
so I had to use pay family leave.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah. And but you know that eighty five percent of
Americans don't have paid family leave. Yeah, I mean that's
crazy not to have. You got to go back to
work the next day, or you got to burn all
your vacation time, all your sick time. It's so unfair.
So that pulls at eighty four percent. What that means
is the Democrats and Republicans are full of crap. If
you can't pass something that said eighty four percent, you're
not trying, Okay. So what we're gonna do if we win,
(04:26):
is we're gonna try, and we're gonna try like hell,
and we're gonna kick out whoever is in our path,
whether they're Republicans or Democrats. So if they want to
come cry about it, no problem. We're populous. We're ready
to kick their ass. So it's not like, oh yeah,
like the old days, I'll go We'll be so kind
to our colleagues. Our colleagues are so precious. No, your
colleagues aren't that precious. They're the ones who killed all
these bills. So I demand accountability for our candidates. I'll
(04:49):
do the accountability. If they throw any of these bills
under the bus, then we're gonna kick him out of
the group. But they're not going to because they're great guys.
And we got another guy coming on May first too.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I think everything that's just saying is great. I just
I feel like it's four years too late. And what
I mean by that is we're talking as if we're
in normal times, as if the midterms are just gonna
come and we're just gonna go vote, and you know,
put the people in a twenty twenty eight is just
gonna come and we're just gonna go vote.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
They're already telling us.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What they're planning to do. They want Trump to run
for a third term. I just don't think. I don't
think these normal ways of doing things are gonna be
able to combat what is currently in the White House.
And I don't think we understand that yet because it's
just talk. Yeah, when they actually do the things that
they stated, they're knowing definite, everybody's gonna lize like, oh wait,
so we.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Don't have frean fair elections no more.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, So Sean me a couple of layers said right, So,
first off, we're the only ones as far as I
can see, that's actually got a plan, right, So, like,
and I encourage everybody else, like, if you don't like
our plan, great, if you're a Democrat, come up with
a different plan, right, and then plant your flag like
we're doing, and say hey, you know, I'm for this
or I'm for that. We're saying we're for economic possibles
and we're gonna win Congress. So step one in beating
(06:03):
Trump and also taking over the Democratic parties. You gotta
win these elections.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
If they're free and fair.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Lie right, So now, Charlote Maane to the point you're making.
So at some point, so why were you and I
opposed to Trump. We were posting him because we were
worried that he was gonna do authoritarian crap like this.
Why did you and I worry about Joe Biden? Not
because we hate Joe Biden, but because we were worried
he was gonna lose to Trump. That's right, that's right,
And unfortunately we were right about all of that. Right,
So okay, now what's the next step. So I've gone
(06:30):
on every kind of show. So I'm here on Breakfast slow,
but I've gone on you know, Patrick, but David and
Tim Poole and David pac Man and Brian Tyler Coche,
so every left, right, everything in between, right breaking points,
et cetera. Right, So what I see from the right
in that is some of them are hardcore maga guys,
and if Trump says and the Constitution, they are lighted
on fire, right, But half of them are just bros,
(06:52):
And they're like, wait, why are we burning the constitution?
I thought we were in favor of the constitution. So
you're beginning to see that. When I first said that,
people are like, oh, get at here. There's no way
every Trump voters racist, fascist, et cetera. But and then
all of a sudden, Trump burns up the stock market,
and Dave Portnoy, who supported Trump, is out there going,
what the hell I just lost twenty million dollars. Okay,
(07:14):
I don't like this. I don't like this, and I
don't blame him, you know I don't. I don't have
the twenty million to lose, but I know i'd be mad. Okay,
So that's financial. You go to Rogan, and Rogan's like, wait, wait, wait, wait,
what are we getting ready to do process for? Why
are we locking people up without even bringing them to
a court. What part of that is America? And it
is in America? Right.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You got candas always talking about them taking away freedom speech.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah yeah, so and look you're seeing on behalf of
Israel they're snatching up people off the streets, and so
that's I mean, it doesn't get any more. Cancel culture,
then I'm gonna arrest you with massive men, I'm gonna
deport you. I mean, that's canceling your life, right, And
so they cancel their diplomas, et cetera. So I see
all that. But my point to you, Charlemagne, is that
you'd be surprised at how many other people see that.
(07:58):
So he came in at around fifty percent, which is
as high as he's ever been. Boom last poll out
he's down to forty opposes fifty nine percent. He's already
in a nineteen point hole and he's going south. So
if he goes to cancel elections for examples, I wouldn't
put anything past them, right, But at that point, it's
not just going to be us on the left, and
it's not just going to be minorities. It's going to
(08:20):
be people like Rogan and others who go, no, no, no, no.
We signed up for lower prices, we signed up for
closing the border, We signed up for some of the
things you or I might agree with or disagree with,
but we didn't sign up for this.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
But then what happens when he starts locking up the media.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, so look here's your bell weather. Okay, he locks
me up. We're in a lot of trouble. Okay, But
here I am on the front lines. I oppose him
one hundred percent. I'm doing a democratic movement to make
sure he loses in Congress. I'm Muslim, I'm a huge
critic of Israel, and I'm a naturalized citizen. Okay, so
if anyone's on the front line, I'm at the very
(08:55):
very front of that line, and I'm saying, come get me. Okay,
so I'm don't say that. Don't give me a reason.
I don't know. My point is, though, guys, if we
all panic, we're not gonna get anything done. I agree
with that. Okay, So let's all stay calm, let's come up,
let's do a plan. I go here. I am with
a plan to actually take power away from him in
(09:17):
twenty twenty six. If you got a better plan, I'm
all ears right. But what I can't have is no plan.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Now, I which I don't want to be pessimistic. I
just wonder if if we're all too late, Yeah, I thought,
that's literally what I want.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, So well, get into the audience if you know,
in a couple of months, I'm gone to Charlotte Magne's gun. Yeah, well,
you better act, you better do something right, because then
we're at the precipice of almost too late, and that's
when we're gonna see who what everybody's all about? Who
is Joe Rogan right? Who are all these bros? Right?
Did they actually mean it when they said freedom? Because
(09:52):
they can they talk about freedom twenty four to seven.
Right when they were in the minority, they're like freedom, freedom, freedom,
freedom of speech, freedom of this, freedom of that. They
in the controlled they're like, no arrest everybody who cares
about due processes, et cetera. So, okay, hard core maga
is gonna believe that. But all other Trump voters, who
are you? Do you believe in America or don't you
believe in America? Because if you get rid of due process,
that's Western civilization, that is a cornerstone. That means you
(10:16):
hate Western civilization. You want to go backwards to kings
and dictators, et cetera. So if that's who you are,
just raise your hand, raise your hand. But if you're
a Trump voter like dude, I just wanted lower prices, right,
I just I thought crime is a little out of control.
I didn't ask for this crap. And by the way,
that's what fifty nine percent of the country is saying. Now,
we didn't ask for this crap. So let's go. Let's go,
(10:36):
let's get animated. Go to rebellionpac dot com. Get in
the game. We're asking for candidates. You want to run
against these guys. Let's go right, you volunteers, donations, whatever
you need. But let's go. So go help Richard O.
Jetta in North Carolina. He's in an R plus that. Look,
let me give you a scenario. So Rocana is an
incumbenty and he's already great. He's co chair of Bernie's campaign.
We all know and love row right. So and then
(10:58):
by the way, our populist plank side, and by of
course Nina Turner yep, car East Memorye Newman, and by
the way, Dan Osborne, who's an independent who ran Nebraska,
signed the populace playing those six things that I talked
to you about, because everybody loves it. Right. So now
we're saying, now, look at Ojetta. Ojetta is in an
R plus ten district and that is super hard to
win that as a Republican. It's not even a purple district.
(11:20):
It's a red district. It's got Fort Braggett. But he's
a retired Army major. He served in Fort Bragg for
sixteen years and he's an absolute ass kicker. He almost
won in West Virginia once in an R plus fifty four.
He almost overcame fifty four points. Why because his ads
were like after drug companies. Okay, f all these corporations
(11:43):
who are screwing you and taking money out of your pocket.
And people are like, yeah, I like that, right, so
we can win those independents back. They just wanted populism.
They didn't know that Trump was full of crap. I mean,
for us, we think, how could they not know? How
could they not know? But remember how sick they are
of the system. That's right, right, and the system super corrupt.
(12:04):
So Trump was lucky and smart. He was the first
guy to raise his hand and go, this is all corrupt.
I you know you hate this. I hate this. Now
he's even more corrupt. But people didn't know that. They
thought they were signing up for anti corruption. So my point, Charlemagne,
is why don't we actually give an anti corruption get
money out of politics. These donors run the whole place,
and we know it. So if you're a Democrat, don't
(12:26):
tell me the donors that don't run the place. Come on.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think it's ridiculous even when they try to say things.
You know, all these conversations about oligarchy, oligarchy, oligarchy. Now
Bernie and AOC they can go out there and say
fight to oligarchy, Yes, came Jefferies. You can't say that, Okay,
I cut it out. We know that you've taken so
much money from corporate donors. So it's just weird to
see them, you know, push back against oligarchy now and say,
look at the billionaires controlling Trump.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
It's like really, yeah, you really really.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
But don't you need don't you don't you have to
lean into like the donors at some point, like you
need money big corporations to move at some point though, Right,
So how does that work with what your plan is?
Because they're not gonna want to lean in and help
you if you're opposing everything that they're trying to control
you to do. So where does the money? Where does
the power come from?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah? So another great question. So last time I co
founded Just Democrats and so that's AOC et cetera. And
so we got the same questions, especially back then because
we hadn't pulled off the miraculous AOC victory yet, right,
So people are like, AOC, she's a bartender, el Hana omark, Yeah,
to lead, she's the girl. Yeah, And so we said
(13:33):
watch okay, and especially my co founders, they were so
gung ho on AOC. They went all in on her
and they said, you want what we're gonna do, and
we did it, and we won that election and made
a big difference. Right, So this time around, So are
the corporations going to opposse us?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Hell?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, do we want them to oppose us? Yes? I
don't want their help. I don't need their help. Their
help is toxic because their help comes with a price tag.
Charlomne is one hundred percent right. You know what Keeme
Jeffres was just doing. We just reported on the young Turks.
He just collected one point two million dollars went over
to the bankers, Like one of them had to pay
six million dollar fine for ripping people off. Another one
had to pay like some gigantic like sixty or six
(14:09):
hundred million dollars fine because he ripped people off. And
he's like, no, no, it's all good. I got money
from corporations. No, it's not all good. I don't want
that money. That money's toxic. So but at the end
of the day, Lauren, if we don't get the money
out of the system completely, then we're at a big disadvantage.
So our job is to get inside the gates open
the doors for real, populous, real people Americans to come
(14:30):
into Congress, but most importantly, capture the Democratic Party at
the top, which I'll get to in a second, and
then just take the donor money out because you can't
do it unless you're at the top. But if you're
at the top, you give me a populis president and
I promise you wouldn't take that money out. So how right?
Because because Democrats were used to in our lifetime, they
(14:50):
get in and they go, oh, there's nothing I could do.
But hold on, dude, you just got there. You got there.
What do you mean you didn't even try yet? Here
in day two you're telling me you don't there's nothing
you could do. Like Joe Biden on day two is like,
oh fifteen dollar minu Wags's nothing I could do. I'm
gonna take it out. Wow, Well, what do you mean
there's nothing you can do?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And you didn't even you didn't even.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Get a vote on it. You know why? Because the
corporations don't want higher wages, they want lower wages. Right,
why don't we have paid family leave this corporations Like, oh,
that's gonna cost me a couple of nickels, right, And
I don't I don't care about moms. I want them
back on the assembly line. Right. So all these guys
on the Democratic side, this says, oh, I'm gonna work
with corporations and eventually twenty years from now, two hundred
(15:28):
years from now, they're gonna be patriotic and they're gonna
be on our side. No, they're not. You just got
to get their money out because there we live under
corporate rule. Like they're squeezing us and squeezing us they
like I keep telling people, look, man, don't fight left
or right, fight up right, like if you're looking to
follow the money. Yeah, And why do they do these
(15:49):
wedge issues where they drive us apart right, like, go
they go find the super obscure transsports professional this that
the other thing, because they're trying to find a way
to divide us because if we're fighting left and right,
we're never going to be able to get united enough
to fight the folks who actually have power up top.
So and you can do a constitucial amendment. So this
(16:11):
is an super important part of the plant because if
you win in these red and purple districts in twenty
twenty six, then we get the credibility to say, hey, listen,
the establishment told you that they know what they're doing
and that they were definitely going to win, and then
you got Hillary Clinton, and then you got Kamala Harris. Sorry,
but you didn't know. You said you knew, but you
didn't know. We said, we do know. We think we
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can get miraculous victories like AOC and we did know.
We were right right. And now I'm telling you again,
We're gonna get miraculous victories in purple and red districts.
And when we do that, don't tell me we don't know.
We know right. So then you take that credibility and
you go, Now you want to run the same old
corporate stooge on the Democratic side, or do you want
to run a strong progressive populist who's going to say,
(16:55):
let's go get this thing done. Let's bring this back
to the party of FDR past important bills that change
people's lives. Because guys, if we haven't passed the bills, Lauren,
to your original point, then we didn't do anything. Like
if I get a Jetta in and the next guy
coming in May and Row and we get them all
in and they don't pass any bills, then we didn't
get anything done. That's just ego gratification.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
What do you think about what David Hodge is doing?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yep. Yeah. So they're all crying. And I saw a
headline just this morning right before I came in about oh,
they're you know, they're gonna give him an ultimatum at
the DNC. Of course they are, because they're they're a
corruption protection racket, right, So they're like, oh, yeah, how
you can't primary in comments? Why why can't I can't you? Yeah?
And then in mainstream media they do this every time,
they're like, oh, you know, you're just going against Democrats. Yeah,
(17:44):
with other Democrats, with cleaner Democrats and Democrats more likely
to win, more.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Likely to beat Republicans, and Democrats willing to fight exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So, and then DNC goes, how dare you fight, David Hogg?
You you better not fight, You better know your role.
So I love that he doesn't know. Now I don't
know whose candidates are, but God bless him. I don't
really care like And by the way, I keep saying,
if you say, hey, Jenke, I don't like your economic populism.
I just want to focus on culture wars or this
or that the other thing, and or I think corporations
(18:14):
aren't that. But great, brother, plant your flag, run your candidates.
We'll see you all in the primaries. Right. And so
in the beginning, like for a lot of our candidates,
there isn't going to be any primary because there's so
tough races that the Democrats are like, oh there's a candidate.
There's a good candidate, thank god. Right, But for in
twenty twenty eight, we'll see you all in the primary.
(18:35):
If you think your guys better, put up your gavinnosom
of his slick hair, put up your Pete bootages making
excuses out for all the donors, and we'll bring our
strong populace and let's game on. Let's do this.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I do like Pete. I like Pete.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
And the reason I like Pee because I remember having
a conversation with Pete here on Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
This is a while ago, like this was years ago actually,
and I.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Would like, we're talking about having this conversation about taking
corporate money, and I'm like, can you trust a power
politician who takes corporate money? And he goes well, when
you take corporate money, he said, you can take corporate money,
but you just can't tell these corporations can't tell you
what to do.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And I'm like, I don't think that's possible, you.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Know what I mean, Like, I don't think it's possible
to take the corporate money and not be beholden to
the corporate donors. Now, if you are a politician that
can do that, great for you. I just don't know
if it can happen.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I haven't seen it. So look, here's the deal with Buddhagic.
So Buddhachic is really smart and he makes a good
case for Democrats. So when he goes on Fox News
and he makes democratic case, God bless you brother. No problem.
Everybody say, I'm happy to have everybody on our team, right,
But he takes a lot of corporate money, and so
I'm worried about it. I'm super worried about it. And
(19:43):
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to cross my fingers
and hope for the best, like we've done that too
many times. But I'm not trying to rule anybody out right,
Like I'm just saying, hey, listen, you run your race,
we'll run our race, and let's all get on the
same team. Let's beat Trump in twenty twenty six. And
this is the most important. Pick the strongest candidate in
twenty eight because the Democratic Party always tells you to
(20:05):
pick the weakest candidate, the most corporate candidate, the most
establishment candidate. Stop listening to them. They don't know what
they're talking about. They're the same guys who told you
that Joe Biden was young and dynamic, right, they're lying
to you.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
We've had this conversation.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
There's only one person I think could come in because
I don't think that the Democrats need to be rehabilitated.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I think it needs to be destroyed and rebuilt period.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Who could come in and do that?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
John Stewart? Yeah, okay, the only one that makes it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Now, if I had to pick an elected official, it's
gonna have to be a governor, right because you can
just look at the work they did in this state.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
For me, that would be Governor jos Shapiro. Other than that,
John Stewart.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
So I backed John Shapiro for VP. I love Tim
Wallas though. That was a great pick, So no harm
done in my opinion on that. But Shapiro is a
great governor and could he win an election. Yeah, he
could win an election. So and he's even done some
little bit of anti corruption work in Pennsylvania. I'll take it.
I'll take it. That's a good start, right again, not
hating on anyone, God bless Okay, and Shapiro is I
(21:03):
think among the best of them. So, but look on
our side, we got ro Conna, we got Nina Turner,
we got AOC, we got a lot of strong people.
Now outside of politics, we got John Stewart. Right. You know,
Steven A. Smith keeps running his mouth about wanting to run,
all right, God bless whatever. He's conservative, but yeah, he's
(21:24):
too conservative for my taste. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
But I just don't think he would. I don't think
he'd be really taking serious in the general election. I
actually think that it's conservatives that are pushing that messaging
more than anybody because they want Democrats to run somebody
like Navan A. Smith because they know they'd win in
a landslide, and that Steve is my guy. But that's
just how I feel about it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I agree completely like that how we feel about Stephen
as a person and a sports anchor is different than
as a candidate. Right. But the reason I brought him
up is because it's not wrong to look at entertainment.
I mean, look, Ronald Reagan was an actor. Donald Trump
was a reality show host. He's not even a businessman.
He went bankrupt six times. He was known as the
King of Debt. So and here he is again piling
up debt on top of our heads. Right, So, John Stewart, Charlemagne,
(22:07):
how's that for a ting? No?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Hell no, but John stewartt definitely because John Stewart actually
knows what he's talking about. And John Stewart has actually
gotten legislation path. We've seen John Stewart on the hill
fighting for these firefighters here in New York City, and.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
He has a plan Like I love the Weekly Show.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's one of my favorite podcasts I listen to when
I listened to my news, I'm on Young Turks.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm listening to the Weekly Show every week.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Right, and he the conversations he's having with Democrats, libertarians,
conservatives are the best conversations to be right now.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, let me make another case for John. Look, so,
first off, I've never seen him be wrong. Okay, and
that's a hell of a thing. He's been around for
a long, long time. Right. Yeah, I haven't seen him
be wrong. Factually, I haven't seen him be wrong on
policy in terms of fighting for the average guy. And
that is super hard, even just opinion, even just like,
I don't know that I've ever seen a single thing
(22:57):
with Stuart said where I was like, oh, whoa, he
lost me there. Right, So incredible record on the issues
and actually caring. And then you're right, all these politicians
always say, oh, there's nothing we could do. Oh no,
we're so powerless. John got a bill passed from outside
of Congress. He got more done outside of Congress, and
people inside Congress there's five hundred and thirty five people
(23:19):
in there and they couldn't do what John Stewart did
from the outside. Right, So he has a record of
proving actually getting bill's passes, affecting people's lives. He's right
on the policies. We know he's honest. Right, So you
can message, Yeah, if they're picking reality show hosts and
they're picking I mean, look, they'll pick Kim Kardashian next,
so I'll take John Stewart, right, So let's go. And
(23:41):
but the problem with John is that I like, I
don't know if he wants to do it.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
He doesn't want to.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
But you know, it's interesting when I watched The Daily
Show and I'm like, I love the Daily Show, you know,
I make regular appearances on it. But I'm like, you
can look at John and tell he should be doing
something bigger and it has nothing to do with entertainment.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I really think he should be running.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
For some type of office and it should be President
of United No.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, he shouldn't mess around with Congress or city council. No,
He's gonna run for president. So look, last thing on
John is that I kind of feel like Marcus Aureli
is Ingladiator where you know where Maximus says me, no,
it can't be me, And that's what John is saying,
basically me, it can't be me, and Marcus really says
(24:23):
to him, brother, that's why it's gotta be you.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That makes all the sense in the world, all the
sense in the world. Why do you like Rocanna so much?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Real cool?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I like ro but why do you like some So
a couple.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Of reasons why he's always leading? Right, So, while other
congressmen are trying to figure out, oh my god, what's
the angle? Where should I go? Rose like, all right,
now let's go let's go, let's go get this done. Okay,
let's rebuild manufacturing, let's pass these bills here it is, right,
So that's number one. You lead by leading, and I
haven't seen anyone lead like Rocanna, So that's awesome. Okay.
(24:58):
Number two is he gets it. He's talking about economic
populas and bringing people jobs, being people, bringing higher wages, healthcare,
the stuff that people care about. Right. Number three, when
push comes to shove, you know Young c super hard
interview a lot of times, right, so we you know,
we were super tough on Toulci gabbartt when we sniffed
(25:19):
out that she wasn't really progressive and she was actually
a Republican. I did two incredibly tough interviews with her,
on and on and on, and everybody's seen our tough interview.
Ro Kana comes on, we disagree on something in the
middle of the Biden administration, and me and Ann are
yelling at him, and he's like, I hear you, guys,
but here's why I thought of what I did. And
then he comes back the next day. Other politicians never
(25:41):
come back. Do you see what I'm saying? Like when
you have a disagreement. The guy has strength that he
could say this is what I think, and I don't
mind that you think that, and we should exchange these ideas.
And I'm going to come back tomorrow, and I'm going
to come back the next day, and I'm going to
push for what I think is right. I mean, how
many politicians you see like that? That's true.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So if all goes well and everybody that you want
and gets in y'all, but to start moving and doing
all these things, there's going to be timeshere y'all gonna
have disappoint people because everything can't happen the way they
need to. How do they handle that? Because I think
that's another thing that happens with Democrats. They make it
seem like they're never going to disappoint, and then they do,
and then they don't know how to come back from it.
You said that right now. Trump is his message and
everything was good, but he is doing horrible when it
(26:22):
comes to the tariffs. He's blowing it. Is what you said.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah, he is sticking.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
To his ground on like this is what we need
to do. We might lose some people in the midst
of it, but it'll make for better According to him later,
y'all might have to do that too. Then what happens
because people will say, you guys are blowing it at
that point.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, So, first off, Trump isn't really sticking to what
he said. He said global tariffs for everyone or at
ridiculous comical levels, and we're like, what the I don't
mind tariffs? Like you could protect certain industries with tariffs,
right and rebuild manufacturing, So it's not crazy to do
some tariffs, right. But when he announced, oh, I'm going
(26:57):
to do like these unbelievable, heard of before tariffs all
across the world, We're all like, what are you doing?
That's crazy? Right? So then he took that back, and
then he had one hundred and forty five percent tariffs
on China, and we're like, you know what iPhones are
gonna cost if you do that? Then he took that back, right,
So now he's down to still stupid tariffs on China
because they're so gigantic that they're not productive, right, so
(27:20):
et cetera. So now you now flip it back on us, yea, right,
So what happens Number one? If we do something wrong?
Just like ro Kana, He's like, hey, listen, we we do.
We fight for what's right. If it turns out we
weren't right, then you bring it back right. So there's
no shame in saying, hey, we tried our best, we
tried this, and you guys said you didn't love it,
so then we're going to next. So why do we
(27:42):
pick like those six bills right, anti war, money out
of politics, et cetera. Because those are super popular, They're
all above two thirds. So if our guys getting into
Congress in twenty twenty six, what we're gonna say is
not just Republicans, but Democrats too, why are you all
preventing a bill that said eighty four percent? Why are
(28:02):
you all such radicals that you're in the sixteen percent?
So because mainstream media will say, oh, paid family leave,
that is a radical progressive idea. Oh no, nobody can
pass out the filibuster the parliamentarian right. Yeah, And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
Sixteen percent is radical. Eighty four percent is not radical.
This whole country wants is seventy four percent of Republicans
(28:24):
want it, over ninety percent of Democrats wanted, over eighty
percent of independence wanted. Now, if we can't pass something
we're at an impass. Why because the corporate donors are
going to come in. They're gonna buy the manches and
the cinemas. Even if they're out, there's gonna be new
mansions in cinemas, et cetera. What are we gonna do.
We're gonna start calling people out. So that's what you've
never seen in.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Politics, right best in the democratic fact, No Trump did it.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, that's right, helping out.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
And that's kind of what I mean by not like
he's doing what he said he was going to do,
because he does what he wants. I just mean that
like when some if he says he wants something and
it doesn't go his way, he calls people out. He does,
he sends a flairs, scare tactic, lose in the midst
of it. That's what I meant by Oh, and nemocats
don't do that at all, Like they played this like
pr You can't scare, you can't ruffle a feather. God
(29:07):
is good, Everything is love. That's how we handle issues.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I tried to get the VP to call out Cinema.
I tried to get her a call out mansion. I
tried to get all the Democrats do it. They just
would not do it for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
So I know the reason. And Lauren, that's such again
a great question, right, because if we don't call people out,
you can't get it done. So it's like Trump is
terrible on policy, but on strategy, I get it right. So,
like the Democrats say, oh, you can't just intimidate people
into voting your right, What do you mean? I just
saw Trump do it. I just saw Trump do it
like twelve times. I've seen Trump do it now, time
(29:40):
and time again. What do you mean you can't do it? No,
it's not that you can't do it's that you don't
want to do it, right, And so and Lauren, they
take that like God is good, all that attitude as
a cover story. Oh we're so nice, we're so nice
that we can't call out our colleagues. That would be mean.
But in reality, they're both taking the same donor money.
And there's a saying called revolving door of bad guys. Right,
(30:04):
So so what if now that mansion and cinema are gone,
you'll see that there. If the Democrats regain the Senate,
there'll be two new bad guys, right, or eight new
bad guys.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Now, it's Chris Coons and Carperate from Delaware. Yeah, well
not the best Democrat, but anyway, they'll be the new
bad guys, right, but in reality there's forty eight Democrats
behind them. And then, so what we're gonna do, which
is different, especially you get Ojetta in there, you won't
be able to stop Ojetta. Okay, like that guy, I mean,
you're gonna love Ojetta. If you two, you and Charlotte,
(30:37):
Charlotte meere, you and Ojeda would get along so great. Anyways,
what we're gonna say is no, sorry, paid family leave.
You took this much money from that industry. You took
this much money from that industry, and that's why you're
voting now. So let's say that we're back into when
it was cinema and mansion and they're blocking all these things.
O Jetta and all the new guys would come in
and go, Cinema's wrong, mansion is wrong. You know, after
(31:00):
they killed paid family leave and those two voted no,
I'm sorry on minimum wage, they voted no. Right afterwards,
they went to the National Restaurant Association and started collecting
checks from them. Because the National Restaurant Association was the
number one lobby against the higher minimum wage. They're so corrupt,
and we're rubbing it in people's face, and mainstream media
covers for them twenty four to seven. Did you tell
(31:21):
everybody how corrupt mansion a cinema are. Did you tell
them that they literally went to go pick up bribes,
like legalized bribes the day after the vote. I think
one of them was on the day of the vote.
So they come in their fancy outfit and they shimmer
and then they vote, yeah, and with their pins and
they vote, know, they go collect their bribes. Right, Mainstream
media never calls them out, and Democrats never called them out.
(31:42):
We're calling them out. We're calling them I you hear
me saying it about cinema mansion. You hear me and
Charlotte talking about it, Hakeem Jefferies, Chuck Schumer talking about
billionaire buddies. He's like doing talking points like, oh Republicans
and they're billionaire buddies. Hey, brother, come on, come on, man,
how many billionaire budies do you have? Exactly right, So
if you don't call them out, you're never gonna get
(32:03):
anything done. That's the one thing Trump is right about.
So let's get our guy in. But that, unlike Trump,
isn't just for himself, but if for once, for once,
actually looks out for all of us. So that's why
honesty is more important than anything else. That's why I
talk about John Stewart. That's why I talk about Rocanna
because I think that, And I talked about Nina Turner
and those folks because they're honest. Here's the three things
(32:25):
that they share. Honesty, smart, and strongly. Those are the
three things you need. Without all three, it's not the
right guy.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
To your point about h you know Trump, like and
Trump came in as the outside, I'm gonna come in
and I'm gonna drain the swamp. Is the Democratic brand
so toxic that regardless of how good the candidates are,
the brand of Democrat will hurt them.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
No, not at all. So, like, is it toxic for
the moment being in places like you know, Kansas, Nebraska,
et cetera, well even there, Yes, and no, like car Eastman,
who's the executive director of Rebellion Impact that's running this
you know Rebellion. Now, Kara nearly won in the middle
of Nebraska by and so she lost by appointent aut
to Don Bacon. Why because the corrupt Democrat that she
(33:12):
beat in a primary ran an add against her saying, hey,
if you're a demorat vote against her. So like she
had it. My point is, and then James Thompson, Brent
Welder almost won in the middle of Kansas and then
Tracy then the person who was against Welder, wound up
winning that seat. So we can win anywhere. And remember
Kentucky West Virginia used to be deeply Democratic states. Why
(33:35):
because they were populist. Kentucky and West Virginia are not conservative,
They're populous. There's a difference, right like if we run
to if we if rebellion is successful enough that we
help in picking the Democratic candidate and we're involved in
that twenty twenty eight race, I would argue our headquarters
should be in Kentucky, Okay, because to say to people,
(33:56):
we are not doing this just for blue states. We
are not doing this or the elites. We're doing this
and we're bringing the Democratic Party back to its populous
roots where they dominated in Kentucky and West Virginia, so
that we do it everywhere. We win everywhere, and so
then you rescue the brand is because it's not like
the brand wasn't great under FDR. I mean, the brother
(34:18):
won four terms, right, and the country loved them. They
still love them. The brand was strong under JFK. So
the brand can be rescued and there is no option anyway.
What are you gonna do? Go Republican? You can't go republican?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Right, So you've got a create a third party, a bible,
I think, a viable third party.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
That's what you guys have anywhere?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
No, no, no, So the reason they'll never let a
third party win? Yeah, well, it's not just that the
third party. Unfortunately, the way that the system is structured.
It's not like I didn't look into it. We looked
into it a lot. Right, So you need to be
almost a billionaire to run as a third party candidate
because just getting it on the ballot costs so much money.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Asking about the donors and the money, I'm like, it
sounds like y'all are another third party trying to come together.
Y'all need the money because if not, y'all don't have
the platform and like the glitz and the glamour that
you need to become those two main candidates.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
But so here's the thing, Lauren. So okay, they say
third party. That's so difficult, et cetera. Taking over the
Democratic Party. It's really difficult. But wait is it? Because
Trump took over the Republican Party with no problems, right,
so what do you do? He came in and he
ran as the Republican, right, so he ran as a
Republican first of all. Actually, did you guys know he
(35:27):
originally ran in two thousand as an independent absolutely and
got smoked because independent third party is near impossible. Right,
But he's like, oh wait, I got a better idea.
Why don't I just go inside the Republican tent and
just take it? Right? And I remember I called that
he was gonna win in like October or November of
twenty fifteen, before they even started voting in the primaries
(35:49):
in twenty sixty. You know why. I saw the debate
where he said I gave money to everybody else on
this stage. They took it and they did whatever I
told him. I'm like, that said he's gonna win. Okay,
so you get somebody like that but actually means well
and actually represents the average American and people can sense it. Right,
put them on a democratic stage. Why don't we just
take the Democratic Party? So like people are always talking about, hey,
(36:11):
maybe we should rebuild a new car, and you know,
HONDEI or whatever. There's a Bentley right over there. Why
don't we go take that one? And besides which, the
guy driving the Bentley is a sleep of the wheel. Like, oh,
it's gonna be really hard to take it from Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Is it? No?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
John Stewart, I love this idea. I love what you're doing.
I love what David Hodge is doing. I think it's fantastic.
You know, yeah, I just.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Tell them how to support all right, So, first of all,
rebellionpac dot com. Since we're not taking corporate money, we
need a lot of grassroots stoners. Last time, for just Democrats,
the Young Turk's audience raised two and a half million dollars. Wow,
this time, let's double it. Right, Let's get these guys
some real juice, and we're gonna get them on all
the shows and all the podcasts, get their voice out there.
They're not afraid, they're not afraid. They love their message.
(37:00):
They want to tell their message. Okay, so rebellionpac dot com.
But also volunteer, right, and also if you can, if
you want to and we've already I announced it yesterday,
already a bunch of people going through the candidate process.
So that's how we found AOC. By the way, when
we did just Democrats, her brother nominated her. Wow.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
So it was like an application of It.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Was like an application. We have an application on Rebellion
pac dot com.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
You gotta tell me what you saw. What did you
see on that application?
Speaker 1 (37:25):
So I was a co founder. I mainly did the
media part. I named the group, et cetera. But Shoycott
who's now running against the Nancy Pelosi and Corbyn Trent Iszac.
Actually those guys were the co founders who were handling
that stuff. And what they saw was here's someone who
cares about the community, who's busting her ass trying to
make a difference and doing it and getting things done
(37:46):
when she's just a bartender, right, so she meaning like
she's working her ass off at a regular job and
she's having trouble paying the bills. Yet she's out there
helping the community and she's getting it done, and the
community is telling us same thing with Jamal Bowman, this
amazing teacher in New York. You guys got to meet
this guy. Okay, Cory Bush, this amazing nurse and she's
(38:08):
on the front line all the time in Ferguson and
Saint Louis, et cetera. So that's how we find folks.
But we can't run everybody. You know, you got to
be judicious and you got to find the best people.
So I don't want to give people false soap. You
got to come correct and you got to be great. Right.
But if you're doing that and you're an honest person,
rebellionpac dot com, we're gonna at least consider you are
as the Democratic Party wouldn't, right, So Okay, then the
(38:30):
other way is just keep up with young turks, Like
we're on on YouTube six o'clock every night, six eight o'clock,
me and Anna, right, and so we're gonna give news
about all the updates and stuff, and then we're gonna,
I'm sure, have amazing people join our advisory board to
help us win, like maybe Charlotte Mayne.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
No, I would do that.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah, that makes sense, Okay, Yeah, let's let's talk about it.
I would love that, right, And we got some other
folks that are, you know, interested in joining the advisory
board that I think would be amazing. Let's get a
wide variety right everywhere everyone. Charlotte made from you to
like I want Harvard law professor Larry Lessigan, he's a
godfather of money in politics. Get money out of politics.
(39:12):
And so let's get smart, passionate people to actually overcome
the system that we have here. And so look, if
you give up, they win. If you stay on your couch,
they win. Right. But if you get up and try, look, protests,
I love it. It needs a step two and this
is step two, right. Step two is we actually go
(39:35):
win and take back Congress. Step three is we go
take over the Democratic Party and win the country over
and actually pass the bills. Right. But step one's great.
Get in the game somehow, right, make some noise, volunteer
for a rebellion pack, go to protests, and or you
you hurt. Somebody's got a better idea, do that idea, right,
But get in the game. Because the minute you sit
(39:57):
down and lose hope is the minute they win. Because
their number one enemy is hope. If we all have
hope in our hearts, then we're all gonna keep rising
up and rising up and rising up, and they're not
going to be able to stop us. But the minute
we lose hope is the minute that they've won. So
that's why a lot of the doom and gloom these
days is super understandable because Trump is really run a
(40:20):
rough shot over the Constitution. On the other hand, I
don't want people to get depressed, Like, depression doesn't help
us at all, right, I want you to get activated.
And by the way, the other thing is emotional release.
Like you can. You could hate Trump and as you
can tell for me, like not a fan of Trump, right,
but we're not about hating Trump. We're about beating Trump. Right.
(40:43):
Because if what I'm worried about is you hate him,
hate him, hate theim and you get so angry and
depressed and you stay home and you and you lose
hope and you lose faith, right, don't do that because
that helps Trump. Your depression helps Trump. He wants you depressed.
Don't let him do it. Get up and fight back,
and you can yell like at his voters, but that's
(41:03):
not gonna help. Remember, we want the independence back on
our side. Remember that he's at fifty nine percent disapproval.
That means we're winning, he's losing. That means those independence
are movable. Just because they voted for Trump doesn't mean
they're gonna stay with Trump. Let's go win those guys back.
And the way that you win him back but is
by offering a positive solution, like we're doing. We're gonna
(41:26):
actually improve your lives. We're actually gonna make things better
for you. We're actually gonna be honest, we're actually gonna
deliver for you. That's how you get people back up
in the streets with hope, fighting back in a productive way,
get the independence back and let's win these elections and
let's pass these bills.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Tell them where to find you.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
May so Young Turks on YouTube six eight o'clock. You
could of course find it on tyt dot com as
well and rebellionpac dot com.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
To help this movement, Rebellion packed down your Instagrams and
all of that.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
So at Jank Huger and at the Young Turks and
you'll be able to find us on all the platforms.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Man Chank, thank you for joining us, brother.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Thank you, Charley Man. I appreciate it. Thank you Lauren
great questions. Really appreciated it.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
It's the breakfast club, Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Breakfast Club
Wake that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yep, it's the world mos Dangerous morning show to Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne the God, DJ Envy and Jess Hilarius had to
step out, but Lauren lerosay his heir and I got
my guy, the CEO and found of the Young Turks Network,
sink it was weger right, Jank.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Uger, Jank Youuger?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I know, I know it's a giant paint of ass.
This ass like a jay what and youger? How are
you even gonna say? That's not even the Turkish way
of saying. But we're just trying to get along, man,
it's my guid though. Uh you know, I can't pronounce nothing.
But how are you, sir? I'm good, I'm good brother.
How you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I am blessed, black and highly favored. Man.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
You got this initiative that you have that you're launching,
that you're trying to recruit democrats who lean into left
wing populism.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You got that right?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What does that look like?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So that looks like some of what Trump promised. Hey,
I'm gonna delivered for the average guy and I hate
the establishment, et cetera. But of course he was full
of crap, and he didn't mean it. And so we
said on the Young Church his brother, all he's going
to do is do tax us for the rich, right,
So that's what he did, and that's what he wants
find naturally, dollars and tax cuts for corporations, et cetera.
So what we're saying is, how about we actually delivered
(01:09):
for the average guy. Higher wages, okay, lower drug prices,
paid family leave so you can get a little bit
of time off when you have a kid, money out
of politics and the wars, and lower housing prices. So
but in order to do that, you've got to take
on big drug companies. You have to take on private
equity that's buying our residential homes and driving up the prices.
(01:31):
And so the reason that the Democrats haven't done in
the past is because they're too wedded to the donor class.
And so we're saying, let's bring the Democratic Party back
to what it was. So what it was was serving
the average guy, solid security, Medicare, Medicaid, all these, by
the way, super popular programs. So let's go back to
passing bills, delivering for people, and let's get the Democratic
(01:52):
Party back in kick Trump's ass.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
You know, I was gonna say, what ald you talk
about his economic populism?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Oh? Yeah, yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
But is that because people always say this stuff and
then even when they get in a position, it's there's
so much you got to fight through so many different
tiers of like the House, and you know the people
that don't agree. So how realistic is it? And what
does that time that look like? Because when you were
saying it, I'm not gonna say it in my time here,
it's gonna be generation generations.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, Lauren, I love that question. Okay, because you're right,
that's exactly the question everybody should ask. Okay, because Democrats
get in and then they never do it right, and
so I get super frustrated. First thing they took out
of the bill, the COVID relief bill under Biden was
fifteen dollars minum wage. Now, if you do fifteen dollars
minute wage, you not only raise people's wages to the
tune of about ninety two billion dollars, right, that goes
(02:37):
from the richest people in the country, the people who
need it the most, who are working, right, but you
also raise the wages above that. And then whenever you
go to do that. They go, oh, no, you can't
do that because that'll drive up inflation. No, inflation is
already here. I need my wages to go up to
keep up with it, right, So why don't we ever
pass any of those things because of the donor class.
So so look, you know, if you're a Democrat, I
(02:58):
hate to break it to you, right. So if you're
a Republican, I got terrible news for you, okay, But
if you're a Democrat, I got bad news, which is
that Biden and all those guys they never meant it.
They never That's why they took fifteen dollar minu wage
right out of the bill. So why are we different
a no corporate donors. No candidate is allowed to take
corporate pac money if they're with rebellion pack. And so
(03:19):
so far we got Rocanna, the first guy who said
no corporate pac money at all, and he's awesome, and
he's the one that worked with Bernie to get fifteen
dollar minum wage at Amazon. And when they first started that,
they're like, oh, you're not gonna be able to pressure Amazon.
You don't have any power. What are you guys gonna do?
You Progressive, you know, you're always rabble rousing, and guess
what they got fifty dollarmenum wage at Amazon. Right, So
(03:40):
Roseman delivering throughout. Now we got Richard O. Jetta running
in North Carolina. Nine That brother almost beat somebody in
West Virginia when he was down fifty when that's a
R plus fifty four. So what But when we get
in Lauren, if we don't deliver like here, I'll put
the first one up on the board. Paid family leave,
so that's twelve weeks off from moms after they have
a baby. Use that.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, No, I have a baby, but my mom was sick,
so I had to use pay family leave.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah. And but you know that eighty five percent of
Americans don't have paid family leave. Yeah, I mean that's
crazy not to have. You got to go back to
work the next day, or you got to burn all
your vacation time, all your sick time. It's so unfair.
So that pulls at eighty four percent. What that means
is the Democrats and Republicans are full of crap. If
you can't pass something that said eighty four percent, you're
not trying, Okay. So what we're gonna do if we win,
(04:26):
is we're gonna try, and we're gonna try like hell,
and we're gonna kick out whoever is in our path,
whether they're Republicans or Democrats. So if they want to
come cry about it, no problem. We're populous. We're ready
to kick their ass. So it's not like, oh yeah,
like the old days, I'll go We'll be so kind
to our colleagues. Our colleagues are so precious. No, your
colleagues aren't that precious. They're the ones who killed all
these bills. So I demand accountability for our candidates. I'll
(04:49):
do the accountability. If they throw any of these bills
under the bus, then we're gonna kick him out of
the group. But they're not going to because they're great guys.
And we got another guy coming on May first too.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I think everything that's just saying is great. I just
I feel like it's four years too late. And what
I mean by that is we're talking as if we're
in normal times, as if the midterms are just gonna
come and we're just gonna go vote, and you know,
put the people in a twenty twenty eight is just
gonna come and we're just gonna go vote.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
They're already telling us.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
What they're planning to do. They want Trump to run
for a third term. I just don't think. I don't
think these normal ways of doing things are gonna be
able to combat what is currently in the White House.
And I don't think we understand that yet because it's
just talk. Yeah, when they actually do the things that
they stated, they're knowing definite, everybody's gonna lize like, oh wait,
so we.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Don't have frean fair elections no more.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, So Sean me a couple of layers said right, So,
first off, we're the only ones as far as I
can see, that's actually got a plan, right, So, like,
and I encourage everybody else, like, if you don't like
our plan, great, if you're a Democrat, come up with
a different plan, right, and then plant your flag like
we're doing, and say hey, you know, I'm for this
or I'm for that. We're saying we're for economic possibles
and we're gonna win Congress. So step one in beating
(06:03):
Trump and also taking over the Democratic parties. You gotta
win these elections.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
If they're free and fair.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Lie right, So now, Charlote Maane to the point you're making.
So at some point, so why were you and I
opposed to Trump. We were posting him because we were
worried that he was gonna do authoritarian crap like this.
Why did you and I worry about Joe Biden? Not
because we hate Joe Biden, but because we were worried
he was gonna lose to Trump. That's right, that's right,
And unfortunately we were right about all of that. Right,
So okay, now what's the next step. So I've gone
(06:30):
on every kind of show. So I'm here on Breakfast slow,
but I've gone on you know, Patrick, but David and
Tim Poole and David pac Man and Brian Tyler Coche,
so every left, right, everything in between, right breaking points,
et cetera. Right, So what I see from the right
in that is some of them are hardcore maga guys,
and if Trump says and the Constitution, they are lighted
on fire, right, But half of them are just bros,
(06:52):
And they're like, wait, why are we burning the constitution?
I thought we were in favor of the constitution. So
you're beginning to see that. When I first said that,
people are like, oh, get at here. There's no way
every Trump voters racist, fascist, et cetera. But and then
all of a sudden, Trump burns up the stock market,
and Dave Portnoy, who supported Trump, is out there going,
what the hell I just lost twenty million dollars. Okay,
(07:14):
I don't like this. I don't like this, and I
don't blame him, you know I don't. I don't have
the twenty million to lose, but I know i'd be mad. Okay,
So that's financial. You go to Rogan, and Rogan's like, wait, wait, wait, wait,
what are we getting ready to do process for? Why
are we locking people up without even bringing them to
a court. What part of that is America? And it
is in America? Right.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You got candas always talking about them taking away freedom speech.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah yeah, so and look you're seeing on behalf of
Israel they're snatching up people off the streets, and so
that's I mean, it doesn't get any more. Cancel culture,
then I'm gonna arrest you with massive men, I'm gonna
deport you. I mean, that's canceling your life, right, And
so they cancel their diplomas, et cetera. So I see
all that. But my point to you, Charlemagne, is that
you'd be surprised at how many other people see that.
(07:58):
So he came in at around fifty percent, which is
as high as he's ever been. Boom last poll out
he's down to forty opposes fifty nine percent. He's already
in a nineteen point hole and he's going south. So
if he goes to cancel elections for examples, I wouldn't
put anything past them, right, But at that point, it's
not just going to be us on the left, and
it's not just going to be minorities. It's going to
(08:20):
be people like Rogan and others who go, no, no, no, no.
We signed up for lower prices, we signed up for
closing the border, We signed up for some of the
things you or I might agree with or disagree with,
but we didn't sign up for this.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
But then what happens when he starts locking up the media.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, so look here's your bell weather. Okay, he locks
me up. We're in a lot of trouble. Okay, But
here I am on the front lines. I oppose him
one hundred percent. I'm doing a democratic movement to make
sure he loses in Congress. I'm Muslim, I'm a huge
critic of Israel, and I'm a naturalized citizen. Okay, so
if anyone's on the front line, I'm at the very
(08:55):
very front of that line, and I'm saying, come get me. Okay,
so I'm don't say that. Don't give me a reason.
I don't know. My point is, though, guys, if we
all panic, we're not gonna get anything done. I agree
with that. Okay, So let's all stay calm, let's come up,
let's do a plan. I go here. I am with
a plan to actually take power away from him in
(09:17):
twenty twenty six. If you got a better plan, I'm
all ears right. But what I can't have is no plan.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Now, I which I don't want to be pessimistic. I
just wonder if if we're all too late, Yeah, I thought,
that's literally what I want.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, So well, get into the audience if you know,
in a couple of months, I'm gone to Charlotte Magne's gun. Yeah, well,
you better act, you better do something right, because then
we're at the precipice of almost too late, and that's
when we're gonna see who what everybody's all about? Who
is Joe Rogan right? Who are all these bros? Right?
Did they actually mean it when they said freedom? Because
(09:52):
they can they talk about freedom twenty four to seven.
Right when they were in the minority, they're like freedom, freedom, freedom,
freedom of speech, freedom of this, freedom of that. They
in the controlled they're like, no arrest everybody who cares
about due processes, et cetera. So, okay, hard core maga
is gonna believe that. But all other Trump voters, who
are you? Do you believe in America or don't you
believe in America? Because if you get rid of due process,
that's Western civilization, that is a cornerstone. That means you
(10:16):
hate Western civilization. You want to go backwards to kings
and dictators, et cetera. So if that's who you are,
just raise your hand, raise your hand. But if you're
a Trump voter like dude, I just wanted lower prices, right,
I just I thought crime is a little out of control.
I didn't ask for this crap. And by the way,
that's what fifty nine percent of the country is saying. Now,
we didn't ask for this crap. So let's go. Let's go,
(10:36):
let's get animated. Go to rebellionpac dot com. Get in
the game. We're asking for candidates. You want to run
against these guys. Let's go right, you volunteers, donations, whatever
you need. But let's go. So go help Richard O.
Jetta in North Carolina. He's in an R plus that. Look,
let me give you a scenario. So Rocana is an
incumbenty and he's already great. He's co chair of Bernie's campaign.
We all know and love row right. So and then
(10:58):
by the way, our populist plank side, and by of
course Nina Turner yep, car East Memorye Newman, and by
the way, Dan Osborne, who's an independent who ran Nebraska,
signed the populace playing those six things that I talked
to you about, because everybody loves it. Right. So now
we're saying, now, look at Ojetta. Ojetta is in an
R plus ten district and that is super hard to
win that as a Republican. It's not even a purple district.
(11:20):
It's a red district. It's got Fort Braggett. But he's
a retired Army major. He served in Fort Bragg for
sixteen years and he's an absolute ass kicker. He almost
won in West Virginia once in an R plus fifty four.
He almost overcame fifty four points. Why because his ads
were like after drug companies. Okay, f all these corporations
(11:43):
who are screwing you and taking money out of your pocket.
And people are like, yeah, I like that, right, so
we can win those independents back. They just wanted populism.
They didn't know that Trump was full of crap. I mean,
for us, we think, how could they not know? How
could they not know? But remember how sick they are
of the system. That's right, right, and the system super corrupt.
(12:04):
So Trump was lucky and smart. He was the first
guy to raise his hand and go, this is all corrupt.
I you know you hate this. I hate this. Now
he's even more corrupt. But people didn't know that. They
thought they were signing up for anti corruption. So my point, Charlemagne,
is why don't we actually give an anti corruption get
money out of politics. These donors run the whole place,
and we know it. So if you're a Democrat, don't
(12:26):
tell me the donors that don't run the place. Come on.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I think it's ridiculous even when they try to say things.
You know, all these conversations about oligarchy, oligarchy, oligarchy. Now
Bernie and AOC they can go out there and say
fight to oligarchy, Yes, came Jefferies. You can't say that, Okay,
I cut it out. We know that you've taken so
much money from corporate donors. So it's just weird to
see them, you know, push back against oligarchy now and say,
look at the billionaires controlling Trump.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
It's like really, yeah, you really really.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
But don't you need don't you don't you have to
lean into like the donors at some point, like you
need money big corporations to move at some point though, Right,
So how does that work with what your plan is?
Because they're not gonna want to lean in and help
you if you're opposing everything that they're trying to control
you to do. So where does the money? Where does
the power come from?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah? So another great question. So last time I co
founded Just Democrats and so that's AOC et cetera. And
so we got the same questions, especially back then because
we hadn't pulled off the miraculous AOC victory yet, right,
So people are like, AOC, she's a bartender, el Hana omark, Yeah,
to lead, she's the girl. Yeah, And so we said
(13:33):
watch okay, and especially my co founders, they were so
gung ho on AOC. They went all in on her
and they said, you want what we're gonna do, and
we did it, and we won that election and made
a big difference. Right, So this time around, So are
the corporations going to opposse us?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Hell?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, do we want them to oppose us? Yes? I
don't want their help. I don't need their help. Their
help is toxic because their help comes with a price tag.
Charlomne is one hundred percent right. You know what Keeme
Jeffres was just doing. We just reported on the young Turks.
He just collected one point two million dollars went over
to the bankers, Like one of them had to pay
six million dollar fine for ripping people off. Another one
had to pay like some gigantic like sixty or six
(14:09):
hundred million dollars fine because he ripped people off. And
he's like, no, no, it's all good. I got money
from corporations. No, it's not all good. I don't want
that money. That money's toxic. So but at the end
of the day, Lauren, if we don't get the money
out of the system completely, then we're at a big disadvantage.
So our job is to get inside the gates open
the doors for real, populous, real people Americans to come
(14:30):
into Congress, but most importantly, capture the Democratic Party at
the top, which I'll get to in a second, and
then just take the donor money out because you can't
do it unless you're at the top. But if you're
at the top, you give me a populis president and
I promise you wouldn't take that money out. So how right?
Because because Democrats were used to in our lifetime, they
(14:50):
get in and they go, oh, there's nothing I could do.
But hold on, dude, you just got there. You got there.
What do you mean you didn't even try yet? Here
in day two you're telling me you don't there's nothing
you could do. Like Joe Biden on day two is like,
oh fifteen dollar minu Wags's nothing I could do. I'm
gonna take it out. Wow, Well, what do you mean
there's nothing you can do?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And you didn't even you didn't even.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Get a vote on it. You know why? Because the
corporations don't want higher wages, they want lower wages. Right,
why don't we have paid family leave this corporations Like, oh,
that's gonna cost me a couple of nickels, right, And
I don't I don't care about moms. I want them
back on the assembly line. Right. So all these guys
on the Democratic side, this says, oh, I'm gonna work
with corporations and eventually twenty years from now, two hundred
(15:28):
years from now, they're gonna be patriotic and they're gonna
be on our side. No, they're not. You just got
to get their money out because there we live under
corporate rule. Like they're squeezing us and squeezing us they
like I keep telling people, look, man, don't fight left
or right, fight up right, like if you're looking to
follow the money. Yeah, And why do they do these
(15:49):
wedge issues where they drive us apart right, like, go
they go find the super obscure transsports professional this that
the other thing, because they're trying to find a way
to divide us because if we're fighting left and right,
we're never going to be able to get united enough
to fight the folks who actually have power up top.
So and you can do a constitucial amendment. So this
(16:11):
is an super important part of the plant because if
you win in these red and purple districts in twenty
twenty six, then we get the credibility to say, hey, listen,
the establishment told you that they know what they're doing
and that they were definitely going to win, and then
you got Hillary Clinton, and then you got Kamala Harris. Sorry,
but you didn't know. You said you knew, but you
didn't know. We said, we do know. We think we
(16:33):
can get miraculous victories like AOC and we did know.
We were right right. And now I'm telling you again,
We're gonna get miraculous victories in purple and red districts.
And when we do that, don't tell me we don't know.
We know right. So then you take that credibility and
you go, Now you want to run the same old
corporate stooge on the Democratic side, or do you want
to run a strong progressive populist who's going to say,
(16:55):
let's go get this thing done. Let's bring this back
to the party of FDR past important bills that change
people's lives. Because guys, if we haven't passed the bills, Lauren,
to your original point, then we didn't do anything. Like
if I get a Jetta in and the next guy
coming in May and Row and we get them all
in and they don't pass any bills, then we didn't
get anything done. That's just ego gratification.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
What do you think about what David Hodge is doing?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yep. Yeah. So they're all crying. And I saw a
headline just this morning right before I came in about oh,
they're you know, they're gonna give him an ultimatum at
the DNC. Of course they are, because they're they're a
corruption protection racket, right, So they're like, oh, yeah, how
you can't primary in comments? Why why can't I can't you? Yeah?
And then in mainstream media they do this every time,
they're like, oh, you know, you're just going against Democrats. Yeah,
(17:44):
with other Democrats, with cleaner Democrats and Democrats more likely
to win, more.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Likely to beat Republicans, and Democrats willing to fight exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So, and then DNC goes, how dare you fight, David Hogg?
You you better not fight, You better know your role.
So I love that he doesn't know. Now I don't
know whose candidates are, but God bless him. I don't
really care like And by the way, I keep saying,
if you say, hey, Jenke, I don't like your economic populism.
I just want to focus on culture wars or this
or that the other thing, and or I think corporations
(18:14):
aren't that. But great, brother, plant your flag, run your candidates.
We'll see you all in the primaries. Right. And so
in the beginning, like for a lot of our candidates,
there isn't going to be any primary because there's so
tough races that the Democrats are like, oh there's a candidate.
There's a good candidate, thank god. Right, But for in
twenty twenty eight, we'll see you all in the primary.
(18:35):
If you think your guys better, put up your gavinnosom
of his slick hair, put up your Pete bootages making
excuses out for all the donors, and we'll bring our
strong populace and let's game on. Let's do this.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I do like Pete. I like Pete.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
And the reason I like Pee because I remember having
a conversation with Pete here on Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
This is a while ago, like this was years ago actually,
and I.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Would like, we're talking about having this conversation about taking
corporate money, and I'm like, can you trust a power
politician who takes corporate money? And he goes well, when
you take corporate money, he said, you can take corporate money,
but you just can't tell these corporations can't tell you
what to do.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And I'm like, I don't think that's possible, you.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Know what I mean, Like, I don't think it's possible
to take the corporate money and not be beholden to
the corporate donors. Now, if you are a politician that
can do that, great for you. I just don't know
if it can happen.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I haven't seen it. So look, here's the deal with Buddhagic.
So Buddhachic is really smart and he makes a good
case for Democrats. So when he goes on Fox News
and he makes democratic case, God bless you brother. No problem.
Everybody say, I'm happy to have everybody on our team, right,
But he takes a lot of corporate money, and so
I'm worried about it. I'm super worried about it. And
(19:43):
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to cross my fingers
and hope for the best, like we've done that too
many times. But I'm not trying to rule anybody out right,
Like I'm just saying, hey, listen, you run your race,
we'll run our race, and let's all get on the
same team. Let's beat Trump in twenty twenty six. And
this is the most important. Pick the strongest candidate in
twenty eight because the Democratic Party always tells you to
(20:05):
pick the weakest candidate, the most corporate candidate, the most
establishment candidate. Stop listening to them. They don't know what
they're talking about. They're the same guys who told you
that Joe Biden was young and dynamic, right, they're lying
to you.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
We've had this conversation.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
There's only one person I think could come in because
I don't think that the Democrats need to be rehabilitated.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I think it needs to be destroyed and rebuilt period.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Who could come in and do that?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
John Stewart? Yeah, okay, the only one that makes it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Now, if I had to pick an elected official, it's
gonna have to be a governor, right because you can
just look at the work they did in this state.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
For me, that would be Governor jos Shapiro. Other than that,
John Stewart.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
So I backed John Shapiro for VP. I love Tim
Wallas though. That was a great pick, So no harm
done in my opinion on that. But Shapiro is a
great governor and could he win an election. Yeah, he
could win an election. So and he's even done some
little bit of anti corruption work in Pennsylvania. I'll take it.
I'll take it. That's a good start, right again, not
hating on anyone, God bless Okay, and Shapiro is I
(21:03):
think among the best of them. So, but look on
our side, we got ro Conna, we got Nina Turner,
we got AOC, we got a lot of strong people.
Now outside of politics, we got John Stewart. Right. You know,
Steven A. Smith keeps running his mouth about wanting to run,
all right, God bless whatever. He's conservative, but yeah, he's
(21:24):
too conservative for my taste. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
But I just don't think he would. I don't think
he'd be really taking serious in the general election. I
actually think that it's conservatives that are pushing that messaging
more than anybody because they want Democrats to run somebody
like Navan A. Smith because they know they'd win in
a landslide, and that Steve is my guy. But that's
just how I feel about it.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I agree completely like that how we feel about Stephen
as a person and a sports anchor is different than
as a candidate. Right. But the reason I brought him
up is because it's not wrong to look at entertainment.
I mean, look, Ronald Reagan was an actor. Donald Trump
was a reality show host. He's not even a businessman.
He went bankrupt six times. He was known as the
King of Debt. So and here he is again piling
up debt on top of our heads. Right, So, John Stewart, Charlemagne,
(22:07):
how's that for a ting? No?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Hell no, but John stewartt definitely because John Stewart actually
knows what he's talking about. And John Stewart has actually
gotten legislation path. We've seen John Stewart on the hill
fighting for these firefighters here in New York City, and.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
He has a plan Like I love the Weekly Show.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's one of my favorite podcasts I listen to when
I listened to my news, I'm on Young Turks.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm listening to the Weekly Show every week.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Right, and he the conversations he's having with Democrats, libertarians,
conservatives are the best conversations to be right now.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, let me make another case for John. Look, so,
first off, I've never seen him be wrong. Okay, and
that's a hell of a thing. He's been around for
a long, long time. Right. Yeah, I haven't seen him
be wrong. Factually, I haven't seen him be wrong on
policy in terms of fighting for the average guy. And
that is super hard, even just opinion, even just like,
I don't know that I've ever seen a single thing
(22:57):
with Stuart said where I was like, oh, whoa, he
lost me there. Right, So incredible record on the issues
and actually caring. And then you're right, all these politicians
always say, oh, there's nothing we could do. Oh no,
we're so powerless. John got a bill passed from outside
of Congress. He got more done outside of Congress, and
people inside Congress there's five hundred and thirty five people
(23:19):
in there and they couldn't do what John Stewart did
from the outside. Right, So he has a record of
proving actually getting bill's passes, affecting people's lives. He's right
on the policies. We know he's honest. Right, So you
can message, Yeah, if they're picking reality show hosts and
they're picking I mean, look, they'll pick Kim Kardashian next,
so I'll take John Stewart, right, So let's go. And
(23:41):
but the problem with John is that I like, I
don't know if he wants to do it.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
He doesn't want to.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
But you know, it's interesting when I watched The Daily
Show and I'm like, I love the Daily Show, you know,
I make regular appearances on it. But I'm like, you
can look at John and tell he should be doing
something bigger and it has nothing to do with entertainment.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I really think he should be running.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
For some type of office and it should be President
of United No.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, he shouldn't mess around with Congress or city council. No,
He's gonna run for president. So look, last thing on
John is that I kind of feel like Marcus Aureli
is Ingladiator where you know where Maximus says me, no,
it can't be me, And that's what John is saying,
basically me, it can't be me, and Marcus really says
(24:23):
to him, brother, that's why it's gotta be you.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That makes all the sense in the world, all the
sense in the world. Why do you like Rocanna so much?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Real cool?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I like ro but why do you like some So
a couple.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Of reasons why he's always leading? Right, So, while other
congressmen are trying to figure out, oh my god, what's
the angle? Where should I go? Rose like, all right,
now let's go let's go, let's go get this done. Okay,
let's rebuild manufacturing, let's pass these bills here it is, right,
So that's number one. You lead by leading, and I
haven't seen anyone lead like Rocanna, So that's awesome. Okay.
(24:58):
Number two is he gets it. He's talking about economic
populas and bringing people jobs, being people, bringing higher wages, healthcare,
the stuff that people care about. Right. Number three, when
push comes to shove, you know Young c super hard
interview a lot of times, right, so we you know,
we were super tough on Toulci gabbartt when we sniffed
(25:19):
out that she wasn't really progressive and she was actually
a Republican. I did two incredibly tough interviews with her,
on and on and on, and everybody's seen our tough interview.
Ro Kana comes on, we disagree on something in the
middle of the Biden administration, and me and Ann are
yelling at him, and he's like, I hear you, guys,
but here's why I thought of what I did. And
then he comes back the next day. Other politicians never
(25:41):
come back. Do you see what I'm saying? Like when
you have a disagreement. The guy has strength that he
could say this is what I think, and I don't
mind that you think that, and we should exchange these ideas.
And I'm going to come back tomorrow, and I'm going
to come back the next day, and I'm going to
push for what I think is right. I mean, how
many politicians you see like that? That's true.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So if all goes well and everybody that you want
and gets in y'all, but to start moving and doing
all these things, there's going to be timeshere y'all gonna
have disappoint people because everything can't happen the way they
need to. How do they handle that? Because I think
that's another thing that happens with Democrats. They make it
seem like they're never going to disappoint, and then they do,
and then they don't know how to come back from it.
You said that right now. Trump is his message and
everything was good, but he is doing horrible when it
(26:22):
comes to the tariffs. He's blowing it. Is what you said.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah, he is sticking.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
To his ground on like this is what we need
to do. We might lose some people in the midst
of it, but it'll make for better According to him later,
y'all might have to do that too. Then what happens
because people will say, you guys are blowing it at
that point.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, So, first off, Trump isn't really sticking to what
he said. He said global tariffs for everyone or at
ridiculous comical levels, and we're like, what the I don't
mind tariffs? Like you could protect certain industries with tariffs,
right and rebuild manufacturing, So it's not crazy to do
some tariffs, right. But when he announced, oh, I'm going
(26:57):
to do like these unbelievable, heard of before tariffs all
across the world, We're all like, what are you doing?
That's crazy? Right? So then he took that back, and
then he had one hundred and forty five percent tariffs
on China, and we're like, you know what iPhones are
gonna cost if you do that? Then he took that back, right,
So now he's down to still stupid tariffs on China
because they're so gigantic that they're not productive, right, so
(27:20):
et cetera. So now you now flip it back on us, yea, right,
So what happens Number one? If we do something wrong?
Just like ro Kana, He's like, hey, listen, we we do.
We fight for what's right. If it turns out we
weren't right, then you bring it back right. So there's
no shame in saying, hey, we tried our best, we
tried this, and you guys said you didn't love it,
so then we're going to next. So why do we
(27:42):
pick like those six bills right, anti war, money out
of politics, et cetera. Because those are super popular, They're
all above two thirds. So if our guys getting into
Congress in twenty twenty six, what we're gonna say is
not just Republicans, but Democrats too, why are you all
preventing a bill that said eighty four percent? Why are
(28:02):
you all such radicals that you're in the sixteen percent?
So because mainstream media will say, oh, paid family leave,
that is a radical progressive idea. Oh no, nobody can
pass out the filibuster the parliamentarian right. Yeah, And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
Sixteen percent is radical. Eighty four percent is not radical.
This whole country wants is seventy four percent of Republicans
(28:24):
want it, over ninety percent of Democrats wanted, over eighty
percent of independence wanted. Now, if we can't pass something
we're at an impass. Why because the corporate donors are
going to come in. They're gonna buy the manches and
the cinemas. Even if they're out, there's gonna be new
mansions in cinemas, et cetera. What are we gonna do.
We're gonna start calling people out. So that's what you've
never seen in.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Politics, right best in the democratic fact, No Trump did it.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, that's right, helping out.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
And that's kind of what I mean by not like
he's doing what he said he was going to do,
because he does what he wants. I just mean that
like when some if he says he wants something and
it doesn't go his way, he calls people out. He does,
he sends a flairs, scare tactic, lose in the midst
of it. That's what I meant by Oh, and nemocats
don't do that at all, Like they played this like
pr You can't scare, you can't ruffle a feather. God
(29:07):
is good, Everything is love. That's how we handle issues.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I tried to get the VP to call out Cinema.
I tried to get her a call out mansion. I
tried to get all the Democrats do it. They just
would not do it for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
So I know the reason. And Lauren, that's such again
a great question, right, because if we don't call people out,
you can't get it done. So it's like Trump is
terrible on policy, but on strategy, I get it right. So,
like the Democrats say, oh, you can't just intimidate people
into voting your right, What do you mean? I just
saw Trump do it. I just saw Trump do it
like twelve times. I've seen Trump do it now, time
(29:40):
and time again. What do you mean you can't do it? No,
it's not that you can't do it's that you don't
want to do it, right, And so and Lauren, they
take that like God is good, all that attitude as
a cover story. Oh we're so nice, we're so nice
that we can't call out our colleagues. That would be mean.
But in reality, they're both taking the same donor money.
And there's a saying called revolving door of bad guys. Right,
(30:04):
So so what if now that mansion and cinema are gone,
you'll see that there. If the Democrats regain the Senate,
there'll be two new bad guys, right, or eight new
bad guys.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Now, it's Chris Coons and Carperate from Delaware. Yeah, well
not the best Democrat, but anyway, they'll be the new
bad guys, right, but in reality there's forty eight Democrats
behind them. And then, so what we're gonna do, which
is different, especially you get Ojetta in there, you won't
be able to stop Ojetta. Okay, like that guy, I mean,
you're gonna love Ojetta. If you two, you and Charlotte,
(30:37):
Charlotte meere, you and Ojeda would get along so great. Anyways,
what we're gonna say is no, sorry, paid family leave.
You took this much money from that industry. You took
this much money from that industry, and that's why you're
voting now. So let's say that we're back into when
it was cinema and mansion and they're blocking all these things.
O Jetta and all the new guys would come in
and go, Cinema's wrong, mansion is wrong. You know, after
(31:00):
they killed paid family leave and those two voted no,
I'm sorry on minimum wage, they voted no. Right afterwards,
they went to the National Restaurant Association and started collecting
checks from them. Because the National Restaurant Association was the
number one lobby against the higher minimum wage. They're so corrupt,
and we're rubbing it in people's face, and mainstream media
covers for them twenty four to seven. Did you tell
(31:21):
everybody how corrupt mansion a cinema are. Did you tell
them that they literally went to go pick up bribes,
like legalized bribes the day after the vote. I think
one of them was on the day of the vote.
So they come in their fancy outfit and they shimmer
and then they vote, yeah, and with their pins and
they vote, know, they go collect their bribes. Right, Mainstream
media never calls them out, and Democrats never called them out.
(31:42):
We're calling them out. We're calling them I you hear
me saying it about cinema mansion. You hear me and
Charlotte talking about it, Hakeem Jefferies, Chuck Schumer talking about
billionaire buddies. He's like doing talking points like, oh Republicans
and they're billionaire buddies. Hey, brother, come on, come on, man,
how many billionaire budies do you have? Exactly right, So
if you don't call them out, you're never gonna get
(32:03):
anything done. That's the one thing Trump is right about.
So let's get our guy in. But that, unlike Trump,
isn't just for himself, but if for once, for once,
actually looks out for all of us. So that's why
honesty is more important than anything else. That's why I
talk about John Stewart. That's why I talk about Rocanna
because I think that, And I talked about Nina Turner
and those folks because they're honest. Here's the three things
(32:25):
that they share. Honesty, smart, and strongly. Those are the
three things you need. Without all three, it's not the
right guy.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
To your point about h you know Trump, like and
Trump came in as the outside, I'm gonna come in
and I'm gonna drain the swamp. Is the Democratic brand
so toxic that regardless of how good the candidates are,
the brand of Democrat will hurt them.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
No, not at all. So, like, is it toxic for
the moment being in places like you know, Kansas, Nebraska,
et cetera, well even there, Yes, and no, like car Eastman,
who's the executive director of Rebellion Impact that's running this
you know Rebellion. Now, Kara nearly won in the middle
of Nebraska by and so she lost by appointent aut
to Don Bacon. Why because the corrupt Democrat that she
(33:12):
beat in a primary ran an add against her saying, hey,
if you're a demorat vote against her. So like she
had it. My point is, and then James Thompson, Brent
Welder almost won in the middle of Kansas and then
Tracy then the person who was against Welder, wound up
winning that seat. So we can win anywhere. And remember
Kentucky West Virginia used to be deeply Democratic states. Why
(33:35):
because they were populist. Kentucky and West Virginia are not conservative,
They're populous. There's a difference, right like if we run
to if we if rebellion is successful enough that we
help in picking the Democratic candidate and we're involved in
that twenty twenty eight race, I would argue our headquarters
should be in Kentucky, Okay, because to say to people,
(33:56):
we are not doing this just for blue states. We
are not doing this or the elites. We're doing this
and we're bringing the Democratic Party back to its populous
roots where they dominated in Kentucky and West Virginia, so
that we do it everywhere. We win everywhere, and so
then you rescue the brand is because it's not like
the brand wasn't great under FDR. I mean, the brother
(34:18):
won four terms, right, and the country loved them. They
still love them. The brand was strong under JFK. So
the brand can be rescued and there is no option anyway.
What are you gonna do? Go Republican? You can't go republican?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Right, So you've got a create a third party, a bible,
I think, a viable third party.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
That's what you guys have anywhere?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
No, no, no, So the reason they'll never let a
third party win? Yeah, well, it's not just that the
third party. Unfortunately, the way that the system is structured.
It's not like I didn't look into it. We looked
into it a lot. Right, So you need to be
almost a billionaire to run as a third party candidate
because just getting it on the ballot costs so much money.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Asking about the donors and the money, I'm like, it
sounds like y'all are another third party trying to come together.
Y'all need the money because if not, y'all don't have
the platform and like the glitz and the glamour that
you need to become those two main candidates.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
But so here's the thing, Lauren. So okay, they say
third party. That's so difficult, et cetera. Taking over the
Democratic Party. It's really difficult. But wait is it? Because
Trump took over the Republican Party with no problems, right,
so what do you do? He came in and he
ran as the Republican, right, so he ran as a
Republican first of all. Actually, did you guys know he
(35:27):
originally ran in two thousand as an independent absolutely and
got smoked because independent third party is near impossible. Right,
But he's like, oh wait, I got a better idea.
Why don't I just go inside the Republican tent and
just take it? Right? And I remember I called that
he was gonna win in like October or November of
twenty fifteen, before they even started voting in the primaries
(35:49):
in twenty sixty. You know why. I saw the debate
where he said I gave money to everybody else on
this stage. They took it and they did whatever I
told him. I'm like, that said he's gonna win. Okay,
so you get somebody like that but actually means well
and actually represents the average American and people can sense it. Right,
put them on a democratic stage. Why don't we just
take the Democratic Party? So like people are always talking about, hey,
(36:11):
maybe we should rebuild a new car, and you know,
HONDEI or whatever. There's a Bentley right over there. Why
don't we go take that one? And besides which, the
guy driving the Bentley is a sleep of the wheel. Like, oh,
it's gonna be really hard to take it from Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Is it? No?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
John Stewart, I love this idea. I love what you're doing.
I love what David Hodge is doing. I think it's fantastic.
You know, yeah, I just.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Tell them how to support all right, So, first of all,
rebellionpac dot com. Since we're not taking corporate money, we
need a lot of grassroots stoners. Last time, for just Democrats,
the Young Turk's audience raised two and a half million dollars. Wow,
this time, let's double it. Right, Let's get these guys
some real juice, and we're gonna get them on all
the shows and all the podcasts, get their voice out there.
They're not afraid, they're not afraid. They love their message.
(37:00):
They want to tell their message. Okay, so rebellionpac dot com.
But also volunteer, right, and also if you can, if
you want to and we've already I announced it yesterday,
already a bunch of people going through the candidate process.
So that's how we found AOC. By the way, when
we did just Democrats, her brother nominated her. Wow.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
So it was like an application of It.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Was like an application. We have an application on Rebellion
pac dot com.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
You gotta tell me what you saw. What did you
see on that application?
Speaker 1 (37:25):
So I was a co founder. I mainly did the
media part. I named the group, et cetera. But Shoycott
who's now running against the Nancy Pelosi and Corbyn Trent Iszac.
Actually those guys were the co founders who were handling
that stuff. And what they saw was here's someone who
cares about the community, who's busting her ass trying to
make a difference and doing it and getting things done
(37:46):
when she's just a bartender, right, so she meaning like
she's working her ass off at a regular job and
she's having trouble paying the bills. Yet she's out there
helping the community and she's getting it done, and the
community is telling us same thing with Jamal Bowman, this
amazing teacher in New York. You guys got to meet
this guy. Okay, Cory Bush, this amazing nurse and she's
(38:08):
on the front line all the time in Ferguson and
Saint Louis, et cetera. So that's how we find folks.
But we can't run everybody. You know, you got to
be judicious and you got to find the best people.
So I don't want to give people false soap. You
got to come correct and you got to be great. Right.
But if you're doing that and you're an honest person,
rebellionpac dot com, we're gonna at least consider you are
as the Democratic Party wouldn't, right, So Okay, then the
(38:30):
other way is just keep up with young turks, Like
we're on on YouTube six o'clock every night, six eight o'clock,
me and Anna, right, and so we're gonna give news
about all the updates and stuff, and then we're gonna,
I'm sure, have amazing people join our advisory board to
help us win, like maybe Charlotte Mayne.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
No, I would do that.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah, that makes sense, Okay, Yeah, let's let's talk about it.
I would love that, right, And we got some other
folks that are, you know, interested in joining the advisory
board that I think would be amazing. Let's get a
wide variety right everywhere everyone. Charlotte made from you to
like I want Harvard law professor Larry Lessigan, he's a
godfather of money in politics. Get money out of politics.
(39:12):
And so let's get smart, passionate people to actually overcome
the system that we have here. And so look, if
you give up, they win. If you stay on your couch,
they win. Right. But if you get up and try, look, protests,
I love it. It needs a step two and this
is step two, right. Step two is we actually go
(39:35):
win and take back Congress. Step three is we go
take over the Democratic Party and win the country over
and actually pass the bills. Right. But step one's great.
Get in the game somehow, right, make some noise, volunteer
for a rebellion pack, go to protests, and or you
you hurt. Somebody's got a better idea, do that idea, right,
But get in the game. Because the minute you sit
(39:57):
down and lose hope is the minute they win. Because
their number one enemy is hope. If we all have
hope in our hearts, then we're all gonna keep rising
up and rising up and rising up, and they're not
going to be able to stop us. But the minute
we lose hope is the minute that they've won. So
that's why a lot of the doom and gloom these
days is super understandable because Trump is really run a
(40:20):
rough shot over the Constitution. On the other hand, I
don't want people to get depressed, Like, depression doesn't help
us at all, right, I want you to get activated.
And by the way, the other thing is emotional release.
Like you can. You could hate Trump and as you
can tell for me, like not a fan of Trump, right,
but we're not about hating Trump. We're about beating Trump. Right.
(40:43):
Because if what I'm worried about is you hate him,
hate him, hate theim and you get so angry and
depressed and you stay home and you and you lose
hope and you lose faith, right, don't do that because
that helps Trump. Your depression helps Trump. He wants you depressed.
Don't let him do it. Get up and fight back,
and you can yell like at his voters, but that's
(41:03):
not gonna help. Remember, we want the independence back on
our side. Remember that he's at fifty nine percent disapproval.
That means we're winning, he's losing. That means those independence
are movable. Just because they voted for Trump doesn't mean
they're gonna stay with Trump. Let's go win those guys back.
And the way that you win him back but is
by offering a positive solution, like we're doing. We're gonna
(41:26):
actually improve your lives. We're actually gonna make things better
for you. We're actually gonna be honest, we're actually gonna
deliver for you. That's how you get people back up
in the streets with hope, fighting back in a productive way,
get the independence back and let's win these elections and
let's pass these bills.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Tell them where to find you.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
May so Young Turks on YouTube six eight o'clock. You
could of course find it on tyt dot com as
well and rebellionpac dot com.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
To help this movement, Rebellion packed down your Instagrams and
all of that.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
So at Jank Huger and at the Young Turks and
you'll be able to find us on all the platforms.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Man Chank, thank you for joining us, brother.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Thank you, Charley Man. I appreciate it. Thank you Lauren
great questions. Really appreciated it.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
It's the breakfast club, Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
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