INTERVIEW: Cordae Talks New Music, Fatherhood, Lil Wayne's Influence, Avoiding Social Media + More

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Cordae To Discuss His New Music, Fatherhood, Lil Wayne's Influence, Avoiding Social Media. Listen For More!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Breakfast Club Morning, everybody's the j Envy Jess hilarious, Charlamaine
the guy.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
We are the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
We got a special guest in the belling got the
brother cor Day, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
What's up y'all? Y'all feeling I feel good? I got
a third Breakfast Club interview. Man, That's that's tight.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
A lot of people don't get to the third woman.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
Man, that's true about that.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Well, are you feeling happy?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Holidays?

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Man?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I appreciate you. I'm feeling good man. You know, just
landed this morning, so I'm good.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
I feel like The Crossroads, which is your new project,
I feel like it should be in a lot of
rap album of the year categories.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
I concur Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Why do you think it's not because all the black
people got fired at Atlantic?

Speaker 5 (00:38):
The team Jesus my goodness. You know what what God
has in store for me, no man can get in
the way of. And I think post album marketing is
just as important, if not more important, than pre album marketing.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
You know what I'm saying. Like I've had albums.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
To where they really get their legs, like six months
later after it comes out out.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
You still you got to tour, you gotta. I mean,
I's been out a month and I'm doing this with y'all.
It's gonna be a bunch of new people who may
not have even known I dropped something that see this.
So I think post album, post release marketing is just
like super important.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
You know we had a boss man Dilo up here,
and he said that he values reaction over sales. Okay,
you consider successful this album or any album I would.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I guess it depends on how you define reactions.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
So but I guess how people I don't know because
I try not to put like two because I'm an
artist and I'm sensitive about my shit, right the quote Erica,
So I try not to put too much, like I guess,
thought or energy into reaction. But I'll be I'll be
a live I said. It don't feel good when people
are like, yo, I love this album. And I've been

(01:49):
getting a lot of that amongst this album, a lot
of people telling me it's my best work.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I'm seeing online a bunch of people rock with it.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
But for me, it's when I'm performing it that validation
for me is when I'm performing and people are like
reciting the lyrics to me. People are coming to see
me when I'm out and about and people are coming
up like yo, this line like just really register with me,
or like this song really connected with me, you know,
me and my family talked about.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
This, and so that I guess that's the validation.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
More so that success to you when people know your stuff,
listening to your stuff, your core. You don't need a
number to make it successful or do you.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
No, just more so, I think to the point we
just made earlier and even the Boss de Law's point,
it's just like people liking it, people enjoying it. It does
feel good when people enjoy your music. Right As an artist,
like you gotta have can I curse?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Okay, you got to have a sense of like not
giving the fuck. You gotta like when you're in there
creating and you put it out like yo, you got
to think like I don't give a fuck with people,
think like truly, that's the only way you're gonna ever
put anything out right. But at the same token, it
feels really good when people actually do like the work
that you're putting out. So that feels good to get
such like positive like feedback from real people and fans

(03:00):
that's out there that I'm meeting in real life and
like fans online. But then also again that that validation
for me is when I'm performing it and people are
rapping the lyrics back to me coming to see me
performing the music.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
So it is validation comes in the multitude of ways.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
For Shure, why is it called the Crossroads? You said
it's your third time up here, it's also your third album. Yeah,
this is the Crossroads? Is that does have something to
do with your personal life, how you feel at what
point in your life are you right now?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah? Oh my god, this is.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
The Crossroads can mean a number of things, sir.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
But well, I did sample on the intro. But but
more so for me, I had to pay homage. If
I'm gonna call album the Crossroads, I got to bring
some bone thugs in it. But for me, just more so,
it's like, when I was making this, the cross Roads
represent for me is like not necessarily know where I'm going.

(03:54):
And when I was making this album, I kept saying
I'm at a crossroads.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
I'm at a crossroads.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
I'm at a cross I say it like on like
seven different songs before I even knew the title of
the project. And so I'm like, well, I keep saying
this and music am I at a crossroads?

Speaker 1 (04:08):
And so like, you know, quarter life Crisis is like
a real thing.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Quarter life crais, Yeah, you never heard of that?

Speaker 5 (04:16):
No, you know, I think somebody I forgot who was
an artist, made an album called quarter Life Crisis. I
can't think of the name of it. I don't think
it was like a really big album. But like I
looked at it's a thing. It's I don't know if
it's a thing, but I've seen it there and it's
a thing. Right thirty No, oh my god, I'm twenty seven.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Bro, crisis, I said.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I mean, I'm a fresh.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Twenty seven too, But that's a but even at twenty
seven club, you know, not to speak that energy.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I'm gonna live a long, prosperous life.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
But yeah, just more so the feeling of unknowing of
where I'm going next, you know what I'm saying, And
that's an exciting thing, but it's also it's fucking scary, honestly.
So that's how I came out with the Crossroad.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
I don't believe a vision boards and stuff like that,
Like I mean, because you know, they always say you
can tell God your plans. He might got will laugh
at you like you're good playing.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, we plan God laugh.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah that's a proverb, but I think it's a Yiddish proverb.
But I say all this to say, yeah, I definitely
make vision boards.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I do, like a planner at.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
The end of every year, beginning the next year I've
been doing. I write in my little notebook while journal
a lot, and honestly, yo, I knocked out a bunch
of stuff that I wrote down. I did like a
thought bubble of goals more so at the end of
last year, and I knocked out a bunch of those stuff.
Like one of my thought bubbles was like to have
a song with with Yay formerly known as Kanye West.
That was on my thought bubble. And so yeah, I

(05:43):
do vision boards. I write down goals and dreams and stuff.
But I haven't done a vision board since twenty eighteen.
So I literally thought about that like a couple of
days ago. I'm like, not at the end of this year,
I'm gonna do another vision board. But I always like
write down my goals and stuff for the next year,
for sure.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
But even with that, you don't know where you want
to go.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Now I do know where I want to go, but
it's more like just you can have you can have
an idea where you want to go, but where you
actually go it is sometimes the difference. Sometimes you write
on the money like y'all want to do this, I
want to do this this year, this, this and that,
and then your path can be like, well I did this,
this and that, but actually that wasn't right for me,
you know what I'm saying. So God brought me here,

(06:20):
but what I've learned is too was like what's meant
for you will never miss you, no matter how hard
you try to fuck it up. You know what I'm saying,
It's never meant for me. Excuse me, what was meant
for me will never miss me? You know, how is
your life? How is your life changed now that you
have a child? Right because it was one years old? Yeah,
one and a half and a half, Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
How is things changed as a young father?

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (06:39):
For me, it's more having a respect for my time,
you know what I'm saying, being more like discipline when
it comes to my time, and also having more respect
for other people's time. You know, because I'm like, I
want people to respect my time because I got kids,
I can you know, when I leave the house, it
needs to be something important or something that I love
to do. Something that's for feeling fulfillment for me is

(07:01):
going into the studio enjoying good times with friends.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
You know, my job is.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
I mean, you know, this is essentially I want. This
doesn't even feel like a job to me though, to
be honest, but I say this to.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Say, yeah, no exactly, it's a fresh code.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
But I say all this to say, yeah, when I
leave the house, it has to be something important, you know.
So it just really has me focused on like time
management and versus before, like I'll be you know, as
an artist, like you'll be in the studio from like
nine pm the six am one day, then the next
day it might be like from seven pm to three am,
so you're kind of all over the place versus like

(07:38):
when since I had a daughter, it's like now I'm
in the studio from nine am to six pm six
days a week, and then three out of those six
days I come back to the studio from like ten
pm to four am. So it's more of like a
regiment of me like recording and stuff. And I think
I'm more productive now because I don't take my time
for granted.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
You know, I feel like work though, Like if you
set like work hours nine to six is create activity
comes all times a day, all times at night.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah, that's why I do that. That's why I do
three times a day. I do it at night too.
But I've noticed all the most successful artists that I've
talked with a.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Linked with, they work like that.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Like for real, he works like from like nine am
to like three, like he works at like a nine
to five. I've seen somewhere Eminem is in the studio
every day nine to five. He takes a lunch break
at noon. You know what I'm saying, a bunch of
other successful artists. I know they're like on a regimented.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Schedule because where I guess motivation.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Is low, that's where discipline kicks in or inspiration you know,
is low. That's where just like discipline comes in.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
If. What I've learned too is like every verse that
I write is equity.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
You know what I'm saying, Whether that verse makes the
album or not, that verse can be used for Let's
say somebody wants me on that song.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I can use their verse for that song.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
I can use that verse for like a movie sync,
a video game sync.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
And so me, I really it doesn't feel like work
to me above all else because like I love doing this,
like I love like being an aduljo if you would,
you know, And I switch up the times and locations
to where I cook at, like I might like rent
out of Airbnb for like two months, bring all my
studio equipment there, and we just creating out of there.
I might, you know, I find creative ways to get creative.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
I saw one of those crazy YouTube videos and it
said though, it said why core Day's career hit a crossroad,
album flops horrendously. Yeah, do you feel your You just
said that you feel you at a crossroads, But do
you feel like your album floped?

Speaker 5 (09:33):
No, because like probability of that. It's like some white
boy in Indiana. Not that it's a race thing, but
it's like the truth of the people that run thos
And like if you look at channels like that, their
whole channel subscribes to a bunch.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Of negativity, Like that's like what they're about. So you
can nitpick every artist in music.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
You could find something negative and nitpick at where like
they lack of.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Where they lack in some department, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
But no, because like I had other albums that didn't
have like a strong first week, but again my tour
end up doing super well, and then later on it
grows and becomes like a larger thing, Like why I
spend all this time focusing on one week one week?
We're gonna spend all this time focusing on one week
when there is fifty two weeks out of the year,
Like you're gonna just give up on an album because

(10:21):
like it didn't have a super strong first week, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Excuse me what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
And I think I get compared to like megastars like
my first Like if you compare like a Cord first
week sales to like a Kendrick Lamar first week sales,
of like, of course there's a discrepancy, But when it
comes to like my actual peers that do the type
of music that I do, this like it's all like
a balance. It's there, We're all doing the same comparative numbers.

(10:47):
You know, even though comparison is a thief for joy.
But just that's a whole nother perspective. But yeah, no
I don't.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I have no worry about what some white man says
about my career.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
What's your relationship with Wayne? I see Wayne on a
project a couple of times.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Oh, Wayne is the one I've gone. I've gained so
many gems from Wayne, like honestly, like when it comes
to creativity, when it comes to creating music, when it
comes to like, he gave me some gems to like
you have to treat every single song like it's people's

(11:21):
first time hearing you, and it sounds so simple, but
it like lit a fire under my brain of like
nah Son like that is Yo, It's so simple, but
it says so much of like what happens is I've
been blessed. I have like a core audience and the
core fans that like rocks with me no matter what
I put out. But that can also become a hindrance
because you in the studio, you're like, Yo, my fans
gonna love this regardless, like no matter what I do,

(11:42):
versus you taking that approach of like I gotta make
a first impression on people. I gotta treat every song
like it's people's first time hearing it. It makes you
like really like want to give it your all, if
that makes sense, and want to make sure like, yo,
is this worth to hearing? You want to make a
good first impression and the fan and that way, the
fans that you already have, they're gonna be like, oh

(12:02):
my god, this is the greatest thing in the world.
And for somebody who's like fifty to fifty on you
who made by Okay, I heard a song, I heard
a freestyle. I don't know, like that here a song
then or album then they're like, oh nah, like they legit,
you know.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
So I think that was a huge thing I learned
from Wayne.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
And also like that work ethic just by this what
he teaches by doing, you know what I'm saying. Like
his I've been able to be blessed to watch him
up close and his work ethic is like incredible, and
his love for music it just never goes anywhere. And
you understand why he sold like three hundred million records
and ben he's like hip hop's Michael Jackson, if you would,
because if you think about it, there's not that many

(12:40):
people that were like child stars that went on to
become superstars and more successful as they get older.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Have you ever told you why he likes to collaborate
with you?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
No, I don't ask. I didn't know. I got it.
Yeah nah, nah, I don't ask.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
But I mean he definitely like give me my props
and my loves and just like yeah you want he
I mean, he says I'm a killer.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know what I'm saying. He's like, now, you're a killer?
Like why?

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Like you scary? You know what I'm saying. So he's like, Yo,
you're a killer. You scary. So I would assume that's
why the vote together one joint. We got one on
like unreleased joint. Yeah, but it's some. Yeah that that
mentorship and that guidance is like, uh, you can't put
a price tag.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
You whispered that.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I guess how y'all wisper me?

Speaker 3 (13:31):
That's what you wanted to hear.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
I didn't say like that.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
I said, how did y'all meet?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Actually he had a good job. Yeah, no, it's all good.
I didn't. Yeah, yeah, it's not my first.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
We said what I was finna say, how we meet?

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I did a.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Uh interview with he had a young Money not had
he has a Young Money radio music.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, so we started with that.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Then I got his number, he shot me his number
through there and it's just been like back and forth
since then.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
You know.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
I think we got to stop saying things like the
hip hop Michael Jackson though, yeah, only because Wayne is
Wayne and he's an all time great. I think sometimes
when we make those comparisons it puts unrealistic expectations because
I don't think people realize how big Michael Jackson. Well,
I think y'all generation says that shit, yeah, but y'all
really don't realize how big Michael Jackson. I mean, we
sold one hundred million records off one album.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
They had to be there and yeah, you know what
I mean, to sell one hundred million records off one
album when people had to get up and go to
the store.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
That's also a different thing going back to our earlier
points were like how albums are consumed, because when Michael
Jackson sold a hundred million records one hundred million people
or thirty million people three times like people you had
to actually leave your house and go to the store
to buy an album, versus now like like the Spotify,
Apple Music streaming equivalents. You gotta stream a song has

(14:56):
to stream fifteen hundred times to count is like one
angular unit to where you can have like five hundred
thousand people all streaming your music once and it equates
to like I can't do the math on the top
of my head, but like not like a high number.
So I say, going back to the original point of Dwayne,
you know what I find, comparison is the easiest way

(15:16):
to describe something, you know what I'm saying, Like, comparison
is like the easiest way to describe something.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
So just my more so point was like.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
It's like a mouthstar being growing to now yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
And being even more successful and better as an adult,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
So that was the whole point.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
But yeah, no, Michael, I'm I'm a huge Michael Jackson fan,
but I was born in ninety seven, you know what
I'm saying. So that was like what his story? Oh yeah,
like you know what I'm saying. So yeah, yeah, like Invincible.
I was there for Invincible. That was so I love
I love Invincible. By the way, that album he got
the floor tree joint on there the Butterflies, So.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
What do you think about streaming because I see you
broke it down, So you really thought about streaming, right, Yeah,
like you think about it? If I stream your full yeah,
and I only stream you once, that doesn't count as
a sale.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
No, wild, you have to stream at fifteen hundred times.
The count is once, is wild?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
So what's your thoughts on the streaming process?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
And have And I know you signed, but would you
ever say, you know what, I'm gonna go direct to consume?

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
And you know what, it's a bunch of like I
always have these because I love music, I love hip hop.
I'm always having like not always, but I have these talks,
like amongst my friends of like the difference or like
even amongst other artists friends of like the pros and
cons of being an artist today versus like, let's say
the nineties, right, Like in the nineties, even early two thousands,
they made a lot more money off like actual act

(16:37):
off of music, off the actual music because it was
physical sales, you know what I'm saying. So where like again,
when you sold one million records, I mean one million
people bought it and it was let's say ten dollars
a copy to where like, yo, you're actually making so
my bad to going to tend and so back in
the nineties two thousands, right, they made more money off
the actual music, off music sales, publishing, et cetera. But

(17:00):
they weren't making as much on ancillaries like touring, merch,
brand endorsements. So today we had like I was in
a Coca Cola Super Bowl commercial as Corde. And I
say that to say, like I am, like in the
eighties nineties you had to be like the like Michael
Jackson was in like a Coca or Pepsi yeah, super

(17:20):
Bowl commercial or like you know commercial whatever. Right, So
I say this to say, back in the nineties, they
didn't have too many like ancillary opportunities and they weren't
making as much money on shows and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Today we make more money off.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Shows, festivals, brands, et cetera. But it doesn't make as
much on the actual music because the way music is
scaled is like kind of crazy. I don't know, I
just don't know. I'm not going to act like an
expert on it. It's just like super complicated. But pros
and cons are both. You know, it might even out
and balance out, you know, but it's just different now.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
In the song O six Dreaming, you talk about your
mom and herr musical dreams and how she tried out
for making a band and American idol, and you sampled
one of her old songs.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
How she feel about that when she heard it? Oh,
she liked it. She liked it a lot.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
Yeah, she definitely liked it because it's just like a
That's one of my favorite songs because it's obviously it's
close to home, but it's like a story of irony,
of just like and also a story of how like
you can love something so.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Much that it gets past town to your kids, whether
you like it or whether you.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Know you have an influence on that like outwardly or not,
you know. And so I love I love it again
because it's a close to home. It's the story of
irony and it's just hip hop, like yo, I sampled
one of my mom's old songs and telling the story.
I mean, she definitely got her pub and points when
she ain't charged me. I made sure you know, she
eatn't off that, you know what I'm saying, So she

(18:47):
got adjust do for show.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
So I say all this to say, yeah, nah, thank you.
I rock with that song.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
A lot, and you're kind of glad she ain't make
the band.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I know.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
That. On the record you said, I can't remember what
the line was, but you said, you basically said, you
think Puff is a victim of his own carma. He
made him run six miles and your mom didn't make
the band. So do you really do you think that?
Do you think is a victim of his own time?
So you said, look at Puff.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Now, that's one way that it can be interpreted. It
can be interpreted in a bunch of different ways, you know.
It just depends on like what lens or what are
you're listening to it?

Speaker 4 (19:23):
But so what do you mean by the bar?

Speaker 1 (19:26):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (19:27):
To be honest, like that bar was something I was
so like hesitant on saying because like above all else,
not even above all else, like above all else, I'm
a human being, right, but being a human being, I'm
I'm super pro black and like publicly, I don't ever
want to speak bad about another black man, but damn,
this nigga's making it hard, you know what I'm saying,

(19:47):
Like honestly, like paulse oh my god, super Paul crazy yo, Mike.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Hard Yo, you know what I meant by that we
ain't fin to do this, We ain't find to do this.
The pause, the pauses that you have, that's fact. He
got some pauses.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
So I say this to say, go back to my man,
Let's leave this ship alone.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Man, answer to this ship. I tried to motherfucking juke
around this ship. You know.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
But but yeah, to my point, like I don't ever
want to publicly speak down on another black man, but
like you know, like, fuck, you got a.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Song on the album with Kanye. You're talking about it earlier.
It's called a no Bad Juice. Why would you do that?

Speaker 1 (20:34):
No bad Juice?

Speaker 5 (20:35):
Yo, You're crazy man, nobody, Yo, you're crazy. It's called
no bad News news.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Yes, you're right, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Called no bad News.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
I know he's on your mouth Rushmore.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, I mean bro Bucket.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yo, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
I mean that's definitely a dream come true. Buckets.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
You learned from that session, I mean, yo, yeah, he's
one of the goats. Like he I had a different
hook for that song, and he sent over notes and
like instead of saying this, you know, say this, yeah,
so let me finish.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Okay, bad my bad that came up. You've been You've
been told me like I know, I know, I know
you just do you called it no bad news.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
He wanted to call it something else.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
No, no that's not the title. There's no back and
forth over the title.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
But yeah, basically like yo, this, I mean, point blank
Perioder's a genius, creative genius at the highest level. What
can I say about him creatively that he doesn't already
know and that we as the world doesn't already know,
but definitely a bucket list to work with him, for sure?

Speaker 4 (21:45):
What kind of space is he in right now?

Speaker 5 (21:47):
I I can't speak for another man, you know what
I'm saying. But in the studio no, no, no, we weren't
all together.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
It was all remote. So I don't want to, you know,
speak for another man.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
I love the record of All Alone, Thank you. What
do you think could fill that void of loneliness for you?

Speaker 1 (22:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Because it's funny about that song too, because I actually
had sampled like it was just like Korean jazz artists
who did a cover of that song, but like the
person who owns the master like hates that person. And
so we went back, went back and I found like
the Luther sample, which is.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Like super dope too that he cleared that Luther. Don't
let you curse on this shit. Eva.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
That's a whole nother story. But yeah, so I guess
what fills that void My family, you know what I'm saying.
First and foremost, I could have went straight to that,
but being around my family definitely, like you know, helps that.
Enjoying life experiences with my family helps fill that void,
because I mean, being a generational curse breaker is it's

(22:51):
a lonely road, you know what I'm saying, It's not
for the week. Being famous or an artist with a platform,
that that shit is not for the week, Like you said,
you know earlier, like somebody's always going to have something
to say, no matter what, people always going to have
especially in the zeitgeist of this earth. Is like negativity
is just like it connects the most, you know what

(23:12):
I'm saying. Unfortunately, and so yeah, so at times, you
know you can for the long but for me, filling
that void is like you know, being around family, being
around my daughter and enjoying life and making memories with
them and building my own tribe of like community, you
know what I'm saying, Because I feel like in hip
hop and Black people in general. Not to speak for
the general consensus, but there needs to be a lot

(23:34):
less competition in a lot more community. I can speak
on that for hip hop for sure, Like I love
the competitiveness.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
When we going at it, you know, when everybody going
at it with the bars.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Because that's that's the genesis of hip hop, that's the
heart of hip hop. But as far as just like
you know, sharing knowledge, sharing information, resources, connecting, I feel
like there needs to be a greater sense of community,
you know.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
So I wonder about that often sometimes I think it's
it's too many of us to ever have or a
sense of community. Like you'll find your tribe, and amongst
your tribe, you'll have community. But black people aren't monolithic.
You're talking about forty plus million people.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
If you can never have community amongst forty plus million.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
People, what does monolithic mean?

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Means that all of us aren't to say, Okay, yeah,
I thought so.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
I just wanted to make sure, but yeah, I mean,
and that's the beauty about being black. Like I think
you ever heard of like our DC. They're like the comedian,
They're like a group of comedians and shite and shit.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
But they have this thing called like they have this
con that they have.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
And it's like a festival if you would, in Austin, Texas,
and it's basically like a safe place.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
For like black nerds that love anime.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
But it's like, yo, like that's you wouldn't think if
you're just like not wouldn't think. But I'm just like, yo,
the fact that you found like your niche audience and
made a safe space because it's like thirty thousand people
there and it's all people that love like anime and
shit like that. And so just going back to the
point of just like, you know, community, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
I think community is important to find it. You don't have.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
You're never gonna find one person that agrees with you
on one hundred percent of everything or one person that
likes one hundred percent of everything that you like.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
But finding a community of just.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Good people that look like you or don't look like you,
but have the same morals, values and on the same wavelength,
you know, I think that's super important of just finding
creating a community of like minded individuals. And I think
in hip hop specifically, like I guess lyricism or substance
driven artists like that. I can sense that's something that

(25:42):
needs to be like builded upon, you know.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
So yeah, I did have a question a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, I know that.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
You you said you like to you know, be with
your your baby, girl, your daughter.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
How are you in, Naomi though?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Are we good?

Speaker 6 (25:55):
I've just seen a date night, like a couple of
nights ago at Jamie Fox y'all, was there something?

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ye're not we good man?

Speaker 6 (26:03):
I know, because y'all don't post each other so much.
People even speculate about that maybe they broke up or
anything that speaks to what you were talking about about
just everything connecting negatively.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
Yeah for sure, me honestly, Like I am a super
private person. I am like I try my best as
much as I can be, Like when it comes to
my personal life to be super private, like as much
as I can be, because some stuff you got to
keep for yourself. And when you allow like outside opinion,
when you let and outside opinions can be family members,
you know what I'm saying, And that can get in

(26:34):
the way of stuff that's important to you.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
So, Matt, when you add the world.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
To that, that that's a whole nother thing, and so
I try to be as private while speaking on it now.
But I try to be as private as I possibly
can about like my personal life, like you know, even
with my daughter and you know, my relationship and stuff.
Do you feel like do you still talk to the
YBN group I talked to Almighty Ja, I don't really
talk to not Mare like that.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
To be honest, I don't know, Like I it's for me.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
There's no matter what nahmeyor got to say about me publicly,
there's always a level of respect and appreciation that I
have for now Mir that like nobody can ever get
me to like talk bad about now Mir. You know
what I'm saying, because like Yo, that dude threw me
to OOP and I called it and dunked it. He
she shined that light on me. And I'm like, I'm
not even saying this to be like politically correct. It's

(27:23):
just a God's on the truth. I'm super grateful for him,
Like he changed my life, you know what I'm saying,
for lack of a better word, And so like I said,
he shined that light on me. You know what I'm
saying through me to Oop, You know I called it
win milled it, and I got so much love for him,
Like I talked now mere mom more than I talk
than I'm merry, you know what I'm saying Like that
that's how that is.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
So Yeah, I wasna as y'all ever talk.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yeah, for sure, like it'll be like random like birthdays
and you know stuff like the distant relative is like
the best comparison for communication.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Like I remember when I did Coachella like two years ago.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
I wanted to bring him out for that cause I'm like, yo,
that'd be crazy just on some stuff. But he ain't
want to do it for whatever reason. I'm saying it
was like any bad blood. But yeah, nah, like I
said when I'm mayor bro, like, I got so much
like love and appreciation for him that again, even if
it ain't the same way, it's nothing that he can
say to ever make me forget like all the love

(28:17):
that he has shown me. You know, I was asking,
how do.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
You deal with social media? Are you on social media?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Because between your girl yourself, if she has a bad game,
they blame it on you. Yeah, if you have a
bad album, they blame it on hers. So it's like,
how do you deal with that as far as mentally
and even in your relationship.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Well, it comes down to, like I'm truly like I
don't give a fuck bro what people think because people
I've learned too that internet isn't a real place. Like
it has influence, right, it does have influence, but it's
not a real place, and people are always going to
say something.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
People nitpick anything apart.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
Like literally, people always find something negative and the most
positive stuff. Charlemagne, you can do a toy drive and
give away one hundred thousand dollars worth of gifts, and
if you got a camera man there, nigga's gone be like, oh,
you just did it for the camera, and let's just
say you did you you overlook the positive part of like, Yo,
this nigga just gave away a hundred thousand dollars worth

(29:16):
of gifts, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
And so people always gonna have something to say.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
And the sooner you realize that, it's like, bro, y'all
can all suck my dick, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Pause, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Nobody ever brings that up for the negative stuff, right,
Like somebody can just be online flossing, have the money,
phone to the ear, doing it for the camera. But
nobody ever says you just doing that for the camera.
But anything positive you're just doing for the camera. It
makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah no, I totally agree with that. Yeah no, it's
all I mean, the world not a state. It doesn't
it with me.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Again, has to be for your girl because it's like
they attack everything and it's like.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Damn, leave it alone.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah for me, Like I can't speak what like she feels.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
I ain't gonna speak for her, but I'll be the
worst pr person forever. But I say all this to say,
like for me, Like again, I am an artist and
I'm sensitive about my shit. And with this album, like yo,
it's been like people been fucking loving the album, you
know what I'm saying, Like it's been across the board,
Like yo, I really fuck with this album. It really
connects with me. But I'm at a place now to

(30:20):
where you don't create. I was I was doing a
stream what I'm Dante this kid, I'm Dante Black streamer,
super dope, super funny, and like I was telling him,
like bro, like even with these streamers and not to
say like I'm all knowing and shit, we figuring this
shit out day by day, but it's like day their
next move is based on what the fucking chat is saying.

(30:41):
You know what I'm saying. They're like, they're what they say.
Their whole mood is based on what the chat is saying.
I'm like, I get it, that's your job, but like,
you can't live like that.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Not just the streamers though in general. Nah, they look
at them comments and YouTube pages and it will influence
every single thing they do. I think the most power
that you can get yourself in this era is to
disconnect from all of that and have an opinion or
create art and not even worry about what anybody on
social media is gonna say.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Nah, because they're always going to say something. It's always
going to be negative. And so what I've learned is,
let's say, even back to an album, like if people,
I've learned to like not give a fuck because let's
say every everybody loves this out like, like again, it's
been like really positive feedback on this album with nah,
thank you appreciate it. But let's say you drop an
album and everybody's like, this is the greatest shit ever.

(31:31):
This is a classic you can let that get to
your head and create an ego of like, oh I
am as great as they say I am. Then your
next album people might not love it and they're like, oh,
this is shit, and it can it can fuck with
your confidence, like damn, maybe I am shit like they
say I am.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
And so when you know.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Who you are, nobody can tell you who you are
from my experience, And so that's why it comes down to, like,
I don't give a fuck what people think, whether it's
great or bad, you know what I'm saying, And like, yo,
like I can sleep well at night, you know what
I'm saying. I know I put a bunch of work
in in the music, and I can live with that,
you know, no matter what the outcome is. Now it

(32:11):
gets tricky when like, if you be honest with yourself,
you're like, damn, I could have put more time and
effort into this. I could have put more thought and
energy into this, And then people don't like it, and
then it's like.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, damn, the niggas might be saying some shit, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
But if you like truly put you all into it,
your heart into it, and like people are like yo,
this ship.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
You know, it's like, yo, fuck, I'm like sucker dick.
I'll try next time, you.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Know, I'll try it next time. Goddamn.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
You know what I mean? Oh my god, I have.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
By the way, I've been hanging with my little brother
and them. They some young niggas, they like twenty and
so my pause radar has been like through the roof,
meaning like I pick up the paw. I mean, I'll
usually pause myself first, and others pause. No, no, ain't not,
Ain't nothing homosexual about nothing on this.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
If that's somebody's prerogative, that's all them.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
But AnyWho, what would you finish it is? Hey, you
love your truth, brother, this is a safe place, and
we have we gotta find out an abundance of love
and joy for you no matter.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
You know what you like to do in your free time.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
When you write because of the mother of your child, Yeah,
question your lyrics for example, like when I hear prays
pray about Nailmi.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
I try to make my music as from my heart
and relatable as possible. And also I answer that with
I just let the music speak for itself.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
A lot of insecurity you're showing on that record.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
I just I let the because I'm so and also
too because I'm so vulnerable in my music. That's why
I don't do too many interviews liked, Like I said, you.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Know this is my like third time on here.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
You know, we have a report now to where I
can't come with y'all with it. Who I can, but like,
I'm not gonna come with y'all. Not to say there's
anything wrong with people that do this, but I'm not
gonna come with y'all with a list of like shit
to not talk about, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
So I say all this when you got.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
A boar that says you're never gonna be in interviews
and not be authentic.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
That is true, that's a bar.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
But so I say this to say because I am
to be authentic, right, because I am so vulnerable and
personal in my music.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
It's some stuff I'd rather not go into detail.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
And over explain it, you know, because it kind of
is like a magician revealing the magic, you know, the trick.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
So, yeah, do you feel like sometimes being like the
boyfriend overshadows being the boyfriend of her overshadows you being cord.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
No, Because I was Corday first, and like I'm I'm
very confident like in myself, Like as a I don't
really like to pop my shit, but like I'm a
super successful, like.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Young black man.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
You know what I'm saying, Like I'm wealthy, I'm blessed,
I do it and above all else, I'm a man
of God and I'm a prif not prideful, but I
am a very a apologetic black man, you know what
I'm saying. And I say all that to say, you know,
there is it all right? Oh, I got some more
questions we hear, Baby, don't give me the thirty minute one.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Never see it with you. You say you might see
me stressing over blessings that I prayed for. Yeah, and
I want to talk about that line because I overstand it. Yeah,
expound on that for people.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
Like, bro, Like this shit is stressful, Bro, you know
what I'm saying, Like people can come into an interviews
and be stressed out based on the questions that they're getting.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Like you just asked me about.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
Two super controversial top Not to say that's a bad thing,
but like one can do that as like fucking oh
my god, stressful.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
But I pray let's leave it alone. My bad for
bringing up.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna We're gonna leave that in
this seven minute mark. But I say all this to
say of like, yeah, you might a nigga do be
stressing over shit? I pray for you know what I'm saying, Like,
I pray for you know.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
The the quote meek men, not to bring them back,
you know.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
I pray for times like this and if you really
are killing you really love this ship and you really
dedicated to this craft. It's not for the week. It's
not easy, bro, It's not easy. It's not for the week.
It's not easy. I over understand that I'm super blessed.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (36:17):
Like some days when I'm stressed out, Bro, I do
retail therapy and I go shopping. I know that's a
lot of things that people can't do, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
But what's the most difficult thing you have to deal with?
Because people look at your life and be.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Like you popping.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah, you've got a great career, Yeah, family.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
You got kid, I'm handsome.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
He's like, never forget that, y'all gay say that.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Be tall and ship. You know, super handsome. We get it,
we get it.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
I was waiting for somebody to say, but you have the.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Radio. I'm not really.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Uh uh what ilse Finna say? Thats what bothers you
the most, honestly, it can.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
It's the thing that's like whatever is currently presently in
front of me, like at that time.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
It's not like, oh my god, this dinkle bird.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
You know what I'm saying, y'all might be too old
for that reference. But it's not like one constant thing
or one enemy. Not. When I say enemy, I don't
mean like person, I mean like thing.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
I can't even.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Okay, it's a fairly odd parents reference.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
It's this cartoon, but that was like the Nigga Timmy's
Turner's dad like arch nemesis. So it's like, but that
was the same nemesis every episode. So my bad, I
didn't read the run. No, no, no, not for real.

(37:55):
So I say this to say, it's never one constant enemy.
It's always something. It'd be some different shit every day,
like literally, you know what I'm saying, Like some different
shit every day. And so you have to conquer that,
and you have to be bigger than your your issues.
You have to be solution based and I try. And
one thing I've learned to be is like, solution based.

(38:15):
Let's make the most out of any given situation. And
that's why I am as successful as I am and
why I'm going to get to where I want and
need to.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Be, you know, in life. And so yeah, it's some
different shit literally fucking every day.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
And you just gotta be. And that's for anybody in life.
I know it's a million motherfuckers that may watch this,
so listen to this. It be some different shit every day,
no matter what stage of life that you on, you
just gotta be solution based and like you know, yeah,
just try to be as solution based as possible.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
And it causes levels of anxiety in you, right because
you know it's a blessing from God. Yeah, you feel
like you're not appreciating it. Yeah, and you feel like, damn,
God gonna take it away from me because I don't appreciate.
It's not that I don't appreciate, it is this stress
that comes with it.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Nah, that's a fact. I mean Heavy is the head, bro,
he is the head. And yeah, Heavy is the head.
And so you gotta you know, if you ask for.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
Well, great, you know, not the I was trying to
not the quote fucking stan Lee but you know, with
great power and platform come you know, great responsibility. And
so when you ask for massive things, you got to
be pause. You gotta be ready to deal what comes
with it. You know what I'm saying, be ready for
the responsibility of it.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
So like.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Meaning that you can't have Quote's success, Yeah, without having
Cod's problems exactly.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
And then he yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Now you did post a picture of yourself. Yeah, you
put hashtag free Luigi. Yeah, people were mad mad at
you about that.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
They are they assume the free Lui people. Who is
this target demographic of people? Because I didn't know that you.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Were mad at free Luigi because you know Luigi if
it's the same Luigi.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
He's the gentleman that killed the CEO of United Healthcare.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, I ain't know my nigga Luigi Ario brother was.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Locked up man.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
Yeah yeah, okay, but uh AnyWho, But you know, I'm
just in a space now. Another big thing that I've like,
the like one crossroad I've gotten passed is like being
super I feel like because.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I said, I've done.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
A lot of things that I wanted to do thus
far right, and I know it's so much more that
I gotta do.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
I'm still on this journey.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
If you look at all my albums, they all represent
a journey, from the Lost Boy to the crossroads. It's
all if you look at it, it's all a journey,
because that's kind of what life is.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Right. So, on this particular moment in my.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Journey, I felt as though in the past I've been
a little too like scared to be canceled for lack
of a better word, or fearful to say what I
really feel about certain shit, and because of like protecting
what I've built, you know what I'm saying, Like when
you build and saved up millions of dollars or like
you've you've built up a bunch of shit, right that

(40:58):
our brand or whatever the case, maybe a company business,
like you want to protect that, and sometimes protecting that causes.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Fear and you to move through fear.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
So I've kind of entered into this space now of
like I'm a creative first, I'm an artist, ferst, and
I gotta just say what's on my mind. Like, you know,
don't be an idiot, you know what I'm saying, Don't
don't be dumb, you know, but like yo, don't be
as like politically correct and like scared to offend anybody
because you're just going to be bland if you're just like, oh,
I don't want to offend this person, or I don't

(41:28):
want to offend this person. I don't want to make
this person mad, you know what I'm saying to where
like I've been doing that hella like and my creative
and so I want to do that shit like yeah,
I just thought that shit was funny.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I mean, bro, you know he I don't want to
speak on that too much to no, no, no, not
that was funny. But I don't think he is a monster.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Like you know what I'm gonna say this, this is
this is gonna be my politically correct answer, but it's
also my authentic true self. So this is the I'm
not gonna say this is a medium, but authentically me
as an individual. I am not well researched enough on
the montrocities of the health care industry and what.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
The guy that got killed had to do with it.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
I just know that the American healthcare industry is fucked up.
So I don't want to speak on the assassination of
that particular individual without doing my proper research on what
that particular individual had to do with the overall scope
like the fucked up well you picked the side, you know,
free that nigga was.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Do you feel guilty on vacation?

Speaker 5 (42:36):
We'll explain that, yeah, because yeah I do because not. Yeah,
it's just like you there and you're kind of thinking like, Okay,
what could I be doing? What else could I be doing?
Like working versus like you know, you know, just chilling.
But sometimes you gotta as an artist to you gotta
live life to have shit to talk about it. Else
you're just gonna talk about I'm in a studio all
day working nigga, grinding bars is life, you know what

(42:59):
I'm saying, Like, you got to live life to talk
about it. And so yeah, man, like again, this is
a This whole entertainment business is like a journey.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
Like when you first started to where you're at has
been a level up, a journey, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Same to all of y'all.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
You know what I'm saying, And so I'm recognizing and
sometime that difficult point. It's all these self help books
about how to get from zero to one hundred, but
you kind of got to figure out yourself when you
reach that first major milestone, a big goal about how
to get to that next level. That's some shit you
got to figure out, like through trial and error, through mentorship,

(43:38):
through community, or through you know, fucking up and so like,
like I said, like I'm super blessed, bro, I can
acknowledge the fact that I'm super blessed.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
I thank God every day literally, but I still have
a lot more to do.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
And I know the work that that takes, the dedication
that that takes, and the thick skin that that takes.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Pauls.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
A good book that you can get is the big
Leap Okay, Conker, you're hitting Fear and Take Life to
the Next Level by a Hendrix that's really his name, Okay,
And it's a fantastic book. It's it's for people who
are at one hundred who are looking to either stay
there or get to that that next level.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
Well, see, that's why mentors are important, because I just said,
there isn't a book that existed.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
And you know, it's funny. Quest Love put me onto
that book a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
You know it's funny.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
I was watching y'all interview with nip a couple of
weeks ago, and yeah, r ip nip, and that had
me pick up the way of this superior man, you
know what I'm saying. So I've been reading that and
why I bought the book. I read like four pages
of it, don't you know whatever audio Yeah, yeah, Now
I enjoyed reading because I like highlighting it to where

(44:43):
like I like to go back to it and shit.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
But yeah no, so yeah, each one teach one, So
thank you for that. I definitely picked that up.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
Another line, I'll never see it. You said you would
never see me partying with the Michael Rubens.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah, why is that? So look, let me say this, right,
he has this.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
It's crazy because he has this pro graham called Reform
that actually got that that does amazing work, honestly, and
it got a bunch of people out. It actually got
like some of my closest friends out of jail, like
straight up out of prison.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Like got them on a pill. Like they do amazing work.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Right, So I will want to start off by saying that,
But I mean, bro, it's just going back to that
place of me being a free creative in the studio.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
It's like, Yo, this ship just seem a little off,
you know what I'm saying, But you know it's crazy.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
Actually I've never met that nigga before before I said
that line one.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
You know what I mean? God, why are you picking me? Man? Damn?
Oh my god? AnyWho you never met him before?

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (45:48):
Yeah, so I never when I said that line in
the like again, so going back to you fucking up
my training throw.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Damn, it is impossible for me to.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
So, so going back to my point earlier of like,
I just want to be a free creative you know
what I'm saying and say what I feel. If I
think something that includes humor, you know what I'm saying.
Some of my favorite rappers had like social commentary through
humor and so like, I've always done that since the
very beginning, but when I got lit and shit to lose,
I stopped doing it as much because I didn't want
to burn bridges, you know what I'm saying. And so

(46:20):
I say this to say if we all it's just
me fucking joking. I see some shit online behind the
back hugs, I'm like, Yo, that shit is crazy, nigga
want see me doing that? And so funny enough, and
again acknowledging I did want to acknowledge he has this
program called Reform that does amazing thing.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Right, So when I said that line, I have never
met this nigga, Damn my life.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
One week after that song come out, I meet this
nigga and he's hella cool at a commander's game.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Huh, he hugged you.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
I ain't stay behind. I just said, did he hug you?

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Man?

Speaker 5 (46:52):
Look that I said what I said, idapped him up.
He Hell, He's actually hella fucking cool. And like I said,
the work he does with Reform is amazing, and so
I think as an artist, I can acknowledge that he
does amazing his his his program charity Reform, and I'm
sure he does a bunch of other amazing ship for
community is great.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
But then also, yo, nigga, that shit is funny. You
know what I'm saying. I just no, fuck no.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
And he's put a lot of money in black black
people's pockets. I just had I had an interesting conversation
with a little baby recently and he was talking about that,
and I think that, you know, sometimes people just really
go with the information.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
Is yeah, no exactly, And he's he's one who who
shit is sent from even like, I only met this
dude one time and he was like, like I again,
I felt kind of bad after meeting because you know,
when you see ship online, he's just like, I'm making
fun of it. But then when you actually meet the person,
they become a real person and so which is also
what fans think of fucking artists. So you know what

(47:50):
I'm saying, It's like the duality of it. So uh not,
I met him and he became a real person. But
like when I met him, I'm like, oh, wow, you're
like you're really You're the complete opposite of what I
thought you were, like your cool? Yeah yeah yeah, So
so you would go to one of his parties?

Speaker 1 (48:04):
No, I can't. Now, I still I can't.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
I still can't be advice Naomi, but not you, then
she I don't know.

Speaker 6 (48:15):
I don't know if I commit any crimes I'm committing
with this talk about it.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
He might rap about it, but he ain't gonna talk
about it. Yeah that's funny. That's worse now rapping about
it and talking about it.

Speaker 7 (48:29):
No, I didn't know, Okay, yeah, no, we have to
he was dating a white woman.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
No, never in life, never in life. But not to
say there's anything wrong.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Ship.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
I'm just saying I wouldn't do that, you know whatever.
But what what niggas do with, you know, their time
is what they do.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
I remember when I made some comments up here about NAILM.
He did, yeah what.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
I don't know, but I was getting his number because he.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Wanted her to play for her national team or something
like that. It was something like that, like.

Speaker 6 (49:05):
He turned into ice Kid.

Speaker 5 (49:08):
I would if he's just missing form, he just doesn't
have all the information.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
We don't.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
Let's not pull it up. Okay, let's not pull it up.
I know this is crazy. What fucking this is the same.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Man. Sorry, there's a lot of great history that has
happened on that.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
Yeah, nigga, I had to take He's on this ship
and y'all still using this ship.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Man, y'all should be a fucking shame to y'allself. I know, y'all,
I got yeah, I know ship Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Yeah yeah yeah classic like an MP.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
Yeah yeah yeah, okay, man, But so I had this idea.
So I wasn't aware of that, but he probably just
was missing formed. But I had this idea of having
him in a music video, and yeah that I had
this idea.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Of me having him in the music like yeah, yeah, yeah,
so that's what.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
But man, look, you know I got to see what
he said, but you know, yeah, but I I agree
with a lot of ship.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
You know that I said, like, oh.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Yeah, he was talking about representing representing Japan in the Olympics.
That's what we want to hear it?

Speaker 1 (50:15):
God, he want the.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Producers just texting to me, these niggas are messy, just like, yeah,
see how play?

Speaker 1 (50:24):
I am right.

Speaker 5 (50:25):
I not only took the laptop, I switched market.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
Who is phoeney put me onto What that means?

Speaker 5 (50:34):
Oh that's shy feeny, that's oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Got yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Gott Produces sent him that one.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah, producer was probably a white man. Huh. That would
be a damn shame.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
You think doctor would come up here so much if
we had white producers.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
I got white camera.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Man, he's not white.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
I'm joking. I'm sorry. He is white.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
He's not, but he italianis white. That's a different cause
it's like off white.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
My yeah, yeah, not that it matters, not that you
know what I'm saying. We love we all I.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
Got Look man, I got I got a lot of
white cord fans, and I love all of them.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
You know what I'm saying. I got a lot of
love for you know, everybody on earth.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
You know, I do have one last question. God, yeah,
I'm just fantastic. This is just a personal let's leave
on that not you go ahead as a man. What
did you do to help your lady get through her postpartum?

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Hmmm? Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Men, you don't got to get a personal with her.
Just what the men? What's your men doing? I got
four daughters. What's your men do in that situation? Especially
young men that are quarter life crisis?

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah? Yeah, I will say, I don't know. I want.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
I don't want to act like I'm the perfect person
and be given advice. So I'm the perfect example of
what to do. It's just be as present as you
can and be as understanding as you can, and.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Be a man nigga. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, be understanding, be as understanding and yeah,
and be as present as you possibly can.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
You know, Well, let's listen to something that what you
would help out?

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Man, I don't know, manturday more.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Wave, let's do that.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Oh my god, this is crazy wave. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
No, people misunderstood that line. I think, what is that
a misunderstand I'm dealing with a lot of problems. I
don't know if y' all can relate feeling like road wave.
I got a lot on my plate saying a lot
of responsibilities.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yo yo, what color air forces this?

Speaker 5 (52:55):
I mean, but that goes back to like my like
freedom as and not like me expressing like my sense
of human and my freedom.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
As like this is hip.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
Yeah it is so, I say to say, that goes
back to the point I made earlier, like me just
being as free as I possibly can versus me like
worrying about what people think. But I mean, bro makes
dope music obvious, you know what I'm saying, great artists.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
So yeah, yeah, he was saying like he just always
stressed out about some ship.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
I think the bar is like my I don't want
to do this to you.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
Ja.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
It's like yeah, it's like it's it's there, It's there,
very is there, and I.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Leave now please my time time.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
He's so funny there. All jo side is dope.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
I've always thought was dope. One of the ones when
we was having this conversation recently was playing she was
doing path played he was supposed to come.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
That he was I think he was like a buffer.
He's supposed to come, and were talking about it before
he got here, but he canceled on it.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
And I was just talking about like like the new
big three. I don't see Big three, but like this
new era of artists. Yeah, because you know Kendrick and
Cole and Drake, the last generation. Yeah, for this generation,
I feel like you got to put your your name
in there personally.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
Nah, yeah, it's there for sure. I appreciate that absolutely.
That doesn't warrant all the ship he's done before. But
now I'm fucking with you. Thank you, bro, and I'm glad, Yo,
this is this is great.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
I had honestly, despite the jokes, I had a good
time on here. So thank you all for having me.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Man.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
No, no, I'm gonna come back.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Man, I'm always a roadway's plate talking about gay years.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
He's like, nah, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
The crossroads out now, yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Let's get it to the joint right now.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
It's the breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Good morning, score there, y'all.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Good morning, y'all. Wake that ass up in the morning.
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