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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We
are the Breakfast Club. Of course he got aft with
us today because we got a special guest in the building,
Edgar Balonga.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome brother, my boys.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Everything man, real good.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
How you feeling a big fight coming up, sir, September
fourteenth against Canelo Alvarez.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
How you feeling about it? Amazing?
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You know, I'm highly blessed man to be in this position.
You know, I'm not supposed to be here. You know,
we went through a lot of trials and tribulations. You
feel me, and you know we got here, man, we did.
You know, all the hard work is paid off. Man,
And I started boxing at seven years old and twenty
years later, man, you know I'm finding the biggest fight
of my life. Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Now you wanted this fight for a long time. You've
been calling it out, You've been saying it. So what
what finally got the deal done?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You know I've been I've been talking about this for years. Man.
You know, even before who's about to turn pro? With
my you know, I was like, you know, we've seen
Connelo Rosen and we was just like, yo, listen, man,
like this the fight that's gonna happen soon. You know
something big. You know, Puerto Rico's is Mexico, and I
feel like, do my hard work keeping God first. You know,
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it happened, man, and the manifesting for me, like just
talking about it, putting out there in the universe for me,
and it came.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
All the golden ticket. People say it is like is
it really lucrative?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I mean, you know obviously because they say they say,
is the golden tick because it's money. You know what
I'm saying, You're not. You're not You're not making the
money he was making before you for me when you
fight him obviously, because he's you know, he's a legend, bro.
And yeah, you know, but we got the fight from
my last fight. You know, we became the w BA
mandatory my fort Patrick McCory and knocked him out in
the sixth round. He was a light heavyweight ib O
(01:52):
world world champion, and uh yeah, man, we did our thing.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
They were just like, you listen, we need a big
knockout in order to like in a spot for this,
you know. And I came through, man, big big, big,
Like what.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Uh were there negotiations for this fight? Or was the
first all for accepted? You know what I mean, because obviously,
you know, to Charlemagne's point, it's the money fight that
people want. Was the first off of the money that
you expected? Or did your manager Keith have to fight
for a little bit more?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Oh? Yeah, it was. It was crazy, man. It was
to the point that we probably thought we wasn't gonna fight.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Because you know, because in this show off it wasn't
with you.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, And this is where I really noticed, like, and
at the level where we're are now, at the high level,
I understand why a lot of big fights don't get made.
Excuse me, because you know, the numbers. The numbers got
to look right, you know, and it's about the fighting,
it's about pay per views, and there's about a lot
of other things. For me, So it hit me like, damn,
this is why a lot of big fights don't get
made because of that, you feel me, because because of
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the numbers is not right. And then a lot of
negotiations behind that lot, like phone calls after phone like
it was days like you know what I'm saying. I
wake up and I'm like damn we get in a
fight or not. But I was in the gym. I
was working, working, working, working, because I know I was like,
I want them catching you off.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
God.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
You know a lot of fighters they start training the day,
you know, the day that they signed a fight, and
next thing you know, you got five six weeks to
the fight. Like what happened was now time and then
you're not in shape for me. So I was like
my father was only like your egg, This shit's gonna happen,
you know, whether you like it or not. I think
it's gonna happen. So we got to stay ready. We
gotta make sure we're ready for this.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Are you nervous at all?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
You know?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Because it's it's like you said, you grew up watching
him and watching Box and he was one of the
people that you like watching god A live. So it's
kind of like as a kid, it's like playing your
Lebron or playing.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Your your Jordan.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Do you get nervous for playing one of your your
idols fighting one of the idols at all?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I wouldn't say nervous. I'm just excited, man, Like I'm
not gonna lie. I was like on two hours of
sleep the day before yesterday, I was just going, bro.
I was in the gym track working my coach, Like, yo, bro,
you ain't take none or because you you up, bro,
Like they were trying to me to sleep. You know
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what I'm saying, like, yoga, go take a nap. You know,
we only got two hours. We just we just landed
in New York. Got tending them and sending In the morning,
I'll say, well, I'm going, man, Like I said, the
fights here, man, the fight stars now, you know, and
I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You know, there's opportunity to make history. Man, you know
what I'm saying. And I'm from New York, Puerto Rican
and I'm from the trenches. And you know, a lot
of people depending on me, you know what I'm saying,
and through me, people that never made it to that,
to that level, I win. They all going to win.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Mhm.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
You know this weekend, you know, I just came from
from from LA to Crawford fight. And during the fight, Turkey,
his excellency Chic put out an offer to Canelo for
the butterfight. So in other words, they're looking past you, right,
He's already thinking about Terrence Crawford fighting Canelo OBErs.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
How does that make you feel?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I was upset looking at because they just kept mentioning
you know what I'm saying, And I'm like, damn, they
overlooking me. But you know it was bound to happen,
you from like, I feel like now all my life
I've been overlooked, you know what I'm saying, even me
when I turned pro. You know, all the promoters didn't
want to sign me. Nobody wanted to sign me. Now
we don't want them.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I have no clue, bro for real? For like, you know,
I went to the Olympic Charles I lost, so we
were supposed to go to Puerto Rico, but had I
had an injury. So we were just like, yo, we're
gonna turn pro. So when we want up turning pro?
No promoters wanted it, but I stood ten toes down.
I told Mark, I told my dad. You know, they
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was just like, listen, they don't want you soon. And
when I went in the gym because nobody, nobody wanted
to sign me, right, so I was like, okay, copies
you no more. I'm used to this, you know what
I'm saying. I'm used to being on the dog I'm
used to being in this position. And what started happening.
I started knocking people out in the first round, and
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Like that right there, sixteen first round, I got screak.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, So that right there was like the key start
to everything for me. Like I was like, Yo, these
people out here is really dug and me. They they
don't see my work. They don't see okay, And I
started polling people out. Boom boom, boom boom. Next thing
you know, I got the city shaking, our promoters just
calling us.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Did that help it hurt? Though?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The reason I ask is when you knock everybody in
the first round, everybody expects that every fight. So if
you don't and you take somebody to the distance, or
you take somebody to the sixth round, they're like, eggle
fell off, heat the same, but you can't knock out
everybody in the first round.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So did that help it hurt?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I said, it was a gift. It's always a gift
for me because I feel like God, you know, God
definitely blessed me with his power for me, and it's
in the strength that I got is crazy. So but
then you know, I felt like it was a curse
a little bit too, because you know, people now all
they expected knockouts now, so they don't really look at
They don't want to look at my boxing scales. They
don't want to look at me boxing and moving around
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and hit and don't get hit no more. You know,
they like this, dude's a bum for me. So I
went five straight fights. It was supposed to be four
straight fights, but I went five straight fights to distance
and your people have been like, ash me bye, you
know what I'm saying on social media and shit. But
I say it's a curse, right because you know you're
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knocking people out. People get used to that. For me,
people get used to the knockouts. Knockouts knockouts in boxing
is not about that. You feel me like the first
round was cool, Don't get me wrong, because it blew
me up quick. You know what I'm saying. In two years.
Next thing, I got a little Wayne on my phone.
I started, I'm going to Tracey Morgan's crib. You know,
I built a crazy relationship with him. You for me
so and then you know if I Joe been with
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me since before and so yeah, man, like it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
You know, Khalie Plant he said you are an unworthy
challenger for Canelo. He said you got a week and
lack of experience and poor technical boxing skills. He said,
you have no experience against genuine, world class opposition, and
you struggled against the marginal competition that your promoters have
carefully selected for.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
You to maintain your unbeaten record. What do you say
to that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
He's a hater period, He's a guy. He had his
see you know, it was a thing with him right
and I told him when I seen him and I
seeing him in Vegas, I say, y'all got a lot
of respect for you because you've been at that levee.
What I'm saying, even though you lost, but you've been
at that level like you fought Canelo, you fought Benevidez,
and I got to give you that respect.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
You got it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
You got to that level for me. But I feel
like now he clout chasing you for me. He's doing
a lot of weird shit just to just to be
relevant again for me, because I feel like, and a
lot of people know, dude, don't sell you for me.
He don't sound less he unless he's finding a big,
a big fighter you for me. So I'm like, you'
a hater, bro, because when it was your time to shine,
when it was your time to step in ever ying
with can of Loo and all these guys. I never
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bashed you. I never said nothing about you. You know what
I'm saying. I let you have your moment, but you
ain't take your opportunity for me. You loss, you got
knocked out.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
So how did that? In Vegas?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I saw you guys going back and forth in a
clip that went viral, and you said you was giving
him respect. So how did it turn into you guys
going back and forth? Because what did he say to you?
What was his Because you're broad the.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
End of the day. I'm I'm a dude man, right
like I'm from I'm from New York. I'm from the
trenches for me, So it's different how you come you're going.
If I'm giving you respect, you're gonna respect for me.
And I gave him that respect, but he just kept
going and going and going. Yo.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But what's up?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yo? You're gonna give me that fight?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I'm like, now I'm focusing on some time. I got Cannelo,
But forget about that. If you don't get knola, what's up?
I'm like, no, it's not I'm not even worrying about that. Like,
I got a plan. We're sticking with that now. But
he just kept going and going, Oh yeah, but what
happened with the spawn? And he's talking about spaw wing.
I was like seventeen years old, and I'm like, what
what happened in the sixth round? I fucked him up?
(09:29):
I fucked you up and I blew you on the
sixth round with the body side you ran out the ring?
He started, Oh, oh, I'm all right. So that's when
you know I got on my New York.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
SHO got seventeen years when you were Yeah, he was
it pro already.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, he was pro, and I just turned it up
on him. You know what I'm saying, Like, if you
know what ship went Viraloe called me like, yo, he
looks sound like a real New York nigga.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Man did did when when you when you beat somebody
in sparring, is that something you can hold over their
head until y'all actually getting the ring?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I don't believe in that, you know, saying, I think
sparring and sparring for me because you have a lot
of off days in the gym for me, like a
lot of times, right, sometimes the day before sparring, you
probably got to do what you did to a day.
For me, there's a crazy strimming condition and training, then
you did a crazy boxing training and you got to
spil the next this So sometimes your body be off
(10:20):
from me. So I don't really count sparring. Like there's
a lot of guys that probably get beat up and
spawning and they go fight night and they shine like
a star. And you got guys that look like floored
in a gym and they go fight and they tuck
their tail next thing. You know, you're like, yo, But well,
those skills that when you was in the gym, And
it's because a lot of people can't when when it's
(10:41):
that time. You know, when you got the lights, you
got the ref when you got thousands and thousands of fans,
you know that the energy that that light gets to people, sometimes.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
It's just them dumb overwhelmed them.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Facts, Is there any constructive criticism to take from something
like Khali said, like when you hear when you hear
the things that he lifted you, So you know what,
maybe I do need to improve on My boxing skills
are little bit maybe I do need.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You know, to move my head a little bit more
like you listen to any of that?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
No, So you.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Know, outside of outside of plant, like you you mentioned
the social media, they've been attacking you saying you don't
deserve the Canelo fight. You haven't done enough to earn
that fight. What do you say to those people that
aren't giving you a shot and saying you don't deserve
to fight.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Even if even if quote unquote I would have deserved
a fight, they still would have been talking shit. Yo, bro,
I'm probably like the top. I'm probably like between me, Chicall,
Devin Ryan and who else is out there and me,
it's five of us that everybody hate and boxing your
her And they've been like that for a while already
for me. And I'm gonna always be like this, bro,
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like is gonna be hate?
Speaker 6 (11:48):
What do you think it is about about you?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I'm humble, but you know with me, I'm like, it's
because I'm flat. You know, we're from New York, but
that's us. Feel me, like people get a sense of me,
like all this dude's cocky, all this do on the
way they talk about my jewelry, They talk about my watches.
This that all yet? But so what Bro, that's New
York like when you come but people don't understand the
only people from New York understand that you feel me.
So people from New York they could be haters, but
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they would just hate off my box and create a
lot of people just hate me overall because of my
lifestyle you feel.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Does it affect you though? Do you read that and
be like I gotta change this or does that bother
you it all?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Nah? I don't know. Before when it first started, I
used to yo, I'm not gonna lie. I want to
do a little depression, bro, because I never received crazy
back lives like that. Fore me after that when I
did the Mike Tyson bite when a hudo right and
and they suspended me and then they was just trashing me,
bro for like eight months. Why people?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
What got into you that night?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Nah? So listen, look, so that's why I've been right
the guy right. First of all, the guy came in overweight,
like three pounds cool. He came in on purpose. He
came in overweight. He did some rye g see the
ship like, came in overweight. He didn't want to lose
the weight. It was about to take like fifty thousand
from his from his check. He said, Yo, the day
were for the fight. Yo, if they'll take fifty thousand
from me, the fights off. So whatever, he came over weight.
(13:02):
Obviously I made the weight, but isn't it rules for that,
Like we have to listen. His coach did an interview
after I beat him and said that they they attacked,
it was to come in three pounds of weight so
they don't gotta be weight drained so they could absorb
my punches better from me.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
So he didn't get fired. He didn't. They didn't take
the fifty grand from him. He kept it.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
No, no, no, Top Ringer had to pay me because if not,
they would have the fight would have been off of
It was Puerto Rican their weekend. You know what I'm saying.
Tickets was sold. It was a sold out event, so
it was like Noah, no, no, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
So for those they don't know that money goes to you.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, on thousand percent. And then during the fight, So
I got this dude on YouTube as a crazy fan
of me, and he broke the whole ten rounds down.
But how dirty? Uh? And Gulo was fighting. You know
what I'm saying, Like he split me open with an elbow.
He was throwing shots like when he was throwing up
because he was like, you know what I'm saying, hit me.
All I felt was head butts and elbows the first
four rounds for me, So that was already getting me
(13:53):
like upset. And then I told the ref before the
fight in the back. We was like, listen, this dude's
a dirty fighter, so you gotta watch you with het
butts and with elbows. Yeah. Yeah, but he wasn't you
know what I'm saying. He wasn't the warning him and nothing,
so it was just off O don't know. It was
his own you know, come.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Over, what are you thinking about Tyson when you did it?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Being from New York from Brooklyn, right yeah, oh yeah
yeah yeah, so you probably like.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Bush and from Lower East Side, so you don't.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Wait till there's no mouthpiece though, with the mouthpiece.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
But your front we never here, we never, we never.
I never grabbed them like you see Mike Tyson winning grab.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Mike Tyson it yeah, I never.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
I never Mike Tyson out.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It was like an attempt for me, but you know,
I most hated SOMs. Oh yeah, you're gonna take off
you need like I think it was like seven months,
six months, yeah, six months, and then they charged me
like fifteen thousand whatever.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Did you watch the Crawford imagine More fight?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Do you think Crawford can challenge Canlo? Do you think
he can beat him or or be at that level
with Canelo?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I think they pushing it, you know, I listen, man,
Crawford is a legend, bro, Like, I studied crawl Ford
so much because his discipline and that ring isn't saying
you know what I'm saying, and his IQ is even
more crazy, feel me. So I respect Crawford as a
fighter one hundred percent. Like he's a legend for me.
He's gonna go down as one of the greatest quarter
box and Canello I think they just they was just
(15:26):
overstepping until now they've seen him fight a guy that's
a real one fifty four pounder that's strong for me,
and you know, he gave him a tough fight. You know.
So now everybody's, oh, oh why because everybody probably thought
he was gonna knock this dude out, you know what
I'm saying. But when you go up and wait, people
gotta understand that those punches are different man like fighters absorbed.
(15:46):
The punch is way different for me, you see, like
guys like Benavitaz that went up to seventy five and
he thought he thought that that Ukrainian dude could even
buggle him for me.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
So, but it's not only about weight though, I mean,
magine more style is a lot different than then Canelos. Right,
boxing is about styles, and he's awkward and hard the time.
Canelo doesn't fight like that. Canelo picks his shots and
doesn't move his feet as much.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
You know, but he but after the fight, he kept
saying how strong the guy was. So if he he
felt like that guy was strong, just imagine imagine.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Strong and he hits harder.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
You get what I'm saying, So right there, you know,
and then you know, you notice that he was just
like you listen, man like Cannelo got a fight coming up,
you know, and he wanted obviously he just finished fighting,
so he don't even want to think about it.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I still like, I still like that matchup for but
I think stylistically is still.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
A good fight.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Yeah, but obviously you know that's down the line. You
got a big fight with Canelo. Stylistically, why are you
better than Canelo?
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Outrest?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I just think right now, right listen, Connelo is a legend,
and you know he been in there with the best
for me, like Floyd triple G three times, So we
would never overlook Canelo and what he does you for me.
But the thing is right me, I gotta go in there.
I said this before. We gotta be a little crazy,
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you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, it's kind of cool,
but I feel like it's my time now, you know
what I'm saying. And I got this opportunity for a
reason at the right moment. Stylically, I got everything. You know,
I'm bigger, I'm stronger, I could take a punch, and
I'm younger. You know, Canello has his experience over me,
so you know we know that with this fight, it's
(17:29):
all about IQ for me. It's not physical about this fight.
I'm strong, you know what I'm saying, Like I got that.
They say I got that country and bunking strength for me,
So I know I'm strong. But he fought strong opponents
as well. You know, he fought triple G, He fought
a lot of guys like a punt. He fought a
big BiVO. But with me, it's the IQ that's going
to change the game, you know, And we we've been
that's what we've really been focusing on, is IQ in
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that gym and working on a game plan to execute,
because like I said, you can't go in there like
a crash dumb with that dude. For me, you can't
go in in there, you know, I think that's what
Muir did. You know he went in there just throwing punches.
For me, they take a punch, but there was no
IQ behind it, and you gotta make him think, you
know what I'm saying. You gotta make him think before
he throws. You got to make sure that you know
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he's gonna come to fight. So a guy like him,
you gotta make him think on hundred percent. For me,
you can't just go in there and just try to think.
I can't go in there and I got bricks in
these hands, man, if I land because he got hit,
he got hit by Triple G. He got hit by
guys that for me, and he got crazy movements. So
you know, like I said, it's his IQ, it's intelligence.
You know, it's gonna be an intelligent fight.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Crazy thing is if if you lose, quote unquote you
were supposed to, but if you win, they'll be like, oh,
he was on his way out. So how do you
feel like that? Like it feels like you can't win
regardless of what you do.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, I mean even you said that if I lose,
they're gonna he thought. But I don't even think it's
that You're They're gonna still trust me. They's still gonna
probably put me trying to put me as a meme
on Twitter, on social media, because that's how much hey
I received for me. So I'm just I'm just absorbing
everything for me, Like I'm just staying focused here because
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this is the most important thing. Your mind controls everything
in your body. For me, your mind tells your body
what to do. So if I could keep this in tact,
and I'm keeping my mental sharp and strong, you know,
and getting ready for the fight five six weeks, seven
weeks before the fight, here, I'm good to go, man,
Like I'm one hundred percent mentally. It's dangerous now.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Bud had a hit list, right, a list of everybody
that talked negative about him, so when he won, he
was able to check off the list. Charlomage was one
of them. Do you have that same type of list
of everybody that talks back and like when I win,
I'm going back to check the last person.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Sure, man, I got a whole list. I probably got
like a thousand people.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
A couple name a couple that we would know that
on that list.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, it's more like bloggers and ship. You know what
I'm saying, Like people I see on Twitter?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
What about fighters?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Fighters? Yeah? Uh plant Kaylor playing bitch as Bena Vidaz
bitch azz his father MOREL. That's about it. MOREL.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
David Morrell said, David Morrell.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, as as for the fighters here right there, that's
the only one I really seen, Like oh and probably uh,
I've seen like a little bullshit podcast. Nobody be worrying
about no but Terrence Crawford stableman, and he always be chatting,
always be talking ship. Yeah, does it.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Really be smoke?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Is it real smoke between like you and ben A
Vidas or it is just like it's boxing talk.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
It's boxing talk. But like I don't respect you know,
I don't respect them because they they they're not good people. Bro,
they you know what type of people they are? Like
I go to you right and I'll be on your ship.
Oh my goshaw man, the best podcast, Oh my god
in the world. You feel me, and they go behind
your back, they'll leave, they'll leave the room, and like, Yo,
fuck this guy. This guy's a piece of ship. It's
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got no good. His podcast is ship. That's the type
of guy here. And I ran that happened to me
with that with David's pops. After the fight, kind of
little fight, I'm walking into the MGM. Everybody start bombing
me in the MGM, going crazy. So I look and
I see him. I'm like, oh, look at his pops
right this. So I want to go run down on
him because I already heard him. He was talking. He
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was talking ship like a couple of months back. So
I went to go run down on him. He's like, hey,
you know the.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Best guy here.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
This is a good fighter right here.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Man. You know, I started and something one of the
brothers that was out there, you know, I was recorder.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Was like, yo, you was just sucking man ship about
this dude.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Man fuck got here and I look and I was like, sorry, man, like,
here's the type of people he is. You know what
I'm saying he's he's a fucking cry bro. Like you
know what I'm saying. I'm just holding him like this
dude's funny, man. But that's the type of people they
are too. And I heard him say something like about
the fight. He was like, it's trash or something's a
trashatz fight. And I'm like, it's a trashatz fight. But
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me and you was, and it wouldn't be tried show
your last fight, no, no, no me getting a fight. It
was always a tryshass fight.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
So I saw, you know before before your last fight,
the last fight was a knockout. Before that, you had
to fight that went to went the distance, went by decision,
and they were against people who weren't considered elite level fighters.
So would you say the competition got tough for are
you just weren't on your A game during those fights?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah? You know what happened was right, I got my
coach with me. That started me in the gym, right,
that started me and in the pros. Right, So it's
gonna be I'm gonna break it down short. When I
got to the gym, right when I first turned pro,
I told my coach I want to knock people out, right,
he showed me how to knock people out, start to
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knocking people out. Now me and him split for manager,
you know what I'm saying, for management issues and stuff.
So me and him had a split after like my
turn fight. He wasn't done with me building me for me,
like my coach is not. He's not a coach, he's
a teacher. And you know, he was taught very well
from his from his father. You know, they're from the Bronx.
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And I was just getting so much seasoned with you
know what I'm saying with Mark, for right, he was
just teaching me and it's just repetitional repetition. So when
we separated, right, you know, I never as a competition
kept you know, escalating. We never I never with the
coaches that I have, we never really like broke down
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everything for me and being at gym and work on
the IQ, you know what I'm saying. And he wasn't
a fan of the first round now because like he
hated that ship. Like he never told me, you gotta
knock this guy in the first round. He was like, Yo,
we're gonna do this, We're gonna follow this, We're gonna
set this guy out and we're not gouna come and come.
If not, you already know what time it is. You
know what I'm saying. So he was never a big
fan of going into the into the second round. We
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always broke these guys down the first round because if
you look at all my fights, it was slip boom
dropping them. Know what I'm saying. It was a setup punch.
So now when I when we started with the competition
started getting more stiff and more you know, started increasing,
I noticed like I was never like we was never
going back into the drawing balls like after the first
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when I thought them on, it was like we never
went back and studied the fight and you know, and
just build off i Q you know what I'm saying,
and just getting in the gym and working repetition. I
feel like it was just always like getting the gym
and just train, getting in the gym, train for a fight,
you know what I'm saying. It wasn't never like really
breaking breaking it down or really watching opponents and watching
what they doing, how they fight, how they move and everything.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
So so when you full in Vegas thill, when you
face first, that face that versity for the first time,
when you got dropped right, That's when the negativity came.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
That's when that they started to come.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
What did you what did you learn from that fight
outside of what you're saying right now, Like you felt
like training you weren't doing what you had to do. Uh,
But in the fight, facing that adversity for the first time,
what were you going through at that moment?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I told my bicyle in the third round, throwing the
hook to the body like I felt I felt it. Yeah,
I just saying it in the corner. But you know what,
I'll tell you this though. I tell you this right.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
So pops in the back saying that you broke y
arm and he said he would have pulled if he
knew y'r arm was messed up. But you didn't say
nothing to do that whole fight well to finish it out.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I felt like, I'm not gonna I feel like it
was a big I got here with a bullet, bro Like,
I felt like it was like a bullet woon't like
when I when it came out, I felt, I want
to say a bullet, but it's crazy, probably like a
style like somebody stabbed me in my bicyle. I'm saying
with my muscle rip, and I feel like that changed
a lot too, because I broke his audible bone in
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three places, like after this fight, you've seen him, you
know what's crazy. They was gonna stop the fight. I
think it was in the ninth the oh yeah, it
wasn't in the ninth. It was gonna stop because you know,
you know how it is in box and we break
somebody's orble bone. Day. They stopped to fight quick. They
don't stop seeing for the Joe Sounders and he broke
his ship. They stopped it. They stopped it fast. So
I was like, damn, and I've been broke his audible
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bone in like the sixth round or something, you know.
So they were supposed to stop that fight because the
corner was went to pops and I was like, yo,
it's crazy because you know, I faced adversity. I got dropped.
It was more like an off balanced shot. I wasn't
hurt because when I dropped, when I fell to the floor,
was tired. I looked up when I seen the fucking lights,
I'm like what I'm doing here? And I got tight
and I started banging my gloves. But the cupman was like,
we was gonna stop the fight. But since he caught
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the drop. That was whatever, like, let's go into the
tenth round. Well, one thing I tell you if Mark
was with me, If I was with Mark, I would
have been twenty two and over twenty two knockouts one
hundred percent guarantee. Wow, one hundred percent, hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Did you grow up watching like Felix Trinidad and Miguel
Miguel Codo, uh na.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Trinidad Okay, yeah, Coodo, Yeah yeah, because you know Coodo
was uh he was coming out. He became a you know,
Puerto Rican star and stuff. So yeah, I was watching him,
But my main guy was you know Trinidad and Floyd.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
What inspiration did they provide for you?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Just how I loved how you know with Trinida four,
it was like a gathering in my in my crib,
you know, like with my grandparents, my mom, my uncles
and stuff, we get together. You know, they be having
the beers out with the flag going crazy, you know
what I'm saying. So me seeing that right then on
it and obviously I was like three years old, four
years old, so I didn't know I was gonna be
a boxer for me, but that's what made me fall
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in love with boxing was because I.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Am speaking of the flag in Puerto Rico. Obviously, Puerto Rico.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Uh, you know has a big community to the boxing fans, right,
they love boxing. Do you take on that pressure like
to be the next star because for a moment you
were that guy like you were gonna carry that torch, right,
and then you started to get that hate. And then
they started saying Xander Zayas is gonna be the next
Puerto Rican star. Then we found out Shaquor Stevenson has
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half Puerto Rican. So then he started waving that flag
like who is the next Puerto Rican start? Yeah, his
father's Puerto Rican. Yeah, so he started wearing the Puerto
Rican flag on the trunks and all that.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
You knew that, right yeah? So but are you still
like the Puerto Rican top dog?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I let the fans, you know, like with me, I
know my heart what it is for me. I know,
like in my heart, I know I'm the guy for me,
But I let the I let the I let the
fans like let them, you know what I'm saying, because
they the ones that don't want to put that for me.
So and I know that I got I got a
lot of hate. So it is what it is. I'm
not gonna change who I am. I'm not gonna change
how I dress. I'm not gonna change my appearances to
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anybody for me because they want a guy that you know,
you see, you know what it is that that's why
they hated Mato Kamato. Macho Kama is from New York.
He's from from Spanish Harlem, and Macho Kamoto was you know, flash,
flashy dude for me, and I feel like, you know,
my my coach. You know, they don't really like fighters,
like that's like flash, you know, they're they're like an artist,
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don't like like like I'm well or lou or something.
For me, that's that's buzzed down, drippy. But when it
comes to fighting, they want I don't know, they would
let guys like with you know, with suits on and
you know, collar shirts and for me, but that's not me.
I'm from New York, you know, like we grew up different.
So I'm not gonna change nothing. But you know, September fourteenth,
for some you know that, you know, I go down
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in history.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Man, when is the last time you've been disdoubted going
into a fight ever?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Now, this is the first time.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, now this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
They're saying first round, second round, Ko taking his bullshit.
He's not making bread. That's why he's tight. And look
he just he just fought at one seventy five and
went the distance. Clown too. That's what I'm saying. Everybody
always want to talk talk to you know what you do,
know what it is. They've been chasing, trying to chase
this dude. For me and me, I just had my
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feet up and to my back and the fight just
came to me for me and these guys is doing
extra shiit like trying to you know, kind of trying
to do a lot of things to get this fight.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Well, boxing is more than just like what the fans
want to see. Obviously, there's the Puerto Rican and Mexican
you know, that heritage, that rivalry that also helped. Would
you agree to that help making this fight made this
fight happen.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
One thousand percent, like one hundred percent, you know what
I'm saying. I think that had a major play with it.
You know, I'm a guy right that I don't have
a title right now, but it's like I do have
a title for me, Like my status is like if
I got a world title. You know what I'm saying,
Like the energy, the order, the you know, when I
walk into any you know what I'm saying, in too fights,
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they you know what I'm saying, Like when I went
to the Rye g. Seeing Devin Haney fight, I'm in Brooklyn,
they had to put security guards like all around me
and stuff because it was just people running over me.
You know what I'm saying. So that type of energy
for me and I'm a ticket seller.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Are you still with match Room with Eddie Hurn? Yeah,
so he helped put this fight together.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, but you know it was Keith Conley, my manager,
my dad. You know what I'm saying. I got everything
put together with PBC. Yeah, but you know, shut out
like I always say, you know, shout out to Eddie.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Man so they're not Mattroom is not involved in this
fight on the fourteenth at all.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, it's all PBC. You know what I'm saying. But
you know, shout out to Eddie, Shout out the Matchroom.
You know what I'm saying, Like we definitely you know,
if it wasn't you know, obviously signing with them, you
probably would have never got this fight. How much?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
How much is your son impacted your life? He was born.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
A lot, man, Like, that's my little twin right there.
You know what I'm saying. It happened so quick. Wait
with my girl, you know she got pregnant quick. You
know what I'm saying. I've seen her and we started
vibbing out in three months. You know, she came out
pregnant and I was I was cool with it, like
and I was a guy that I wasn't really into
relation relationship. But it felt like four.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Months for myself at all times.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
No, no, no, no all the time. Now. But you
know how when you find that one is like you
feel like you already known lose man three four months.
It felt like we was together for you know what
I'm saying. And it just felt normally when she came pregnant.
If it was another check out, probably would have been
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I would have been going crazy like nah, oh man,
don't know, man, I'm not ready. But what he was like,
he was ready. Yeah, it was meant to be one
hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
So you have some more.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah, I'm trying to go for the girl. This yeah,
the girl.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And how does that influence you when you go into
the ring.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like I mean, you know, my son looks up to me.
You know what I'm saying. He loves going to the
gym with me. You know, he loves he does everything
I do. You know. So now it's like, I know
I'm a role model for me, for me, So now
I gotta change how I talk, I act, how I
carry myself even more in the ring. You know, I
just look at him and I know that. You know,
this is the way I feed him, you know what
(32:33):
I'm saying. There is the way I can provide a
certain lifestyle for him and put him in the best
schools and be able to afford it. You know, I
don't want him to be a boxer. I know he's
gonna be a superstar. That's why I named him Chosen.
But I feel like, you know, he's gonna be some
amazing in this world. And you know he needs a
father like me. You know, he needs he needs that bro,
He needs that bag behind him to put him in
the right places for me and to take it to
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that level. So with that being said, you know, just
me because of that, you know, that's what I feel
like I'm more focused than.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Of speaking of bread.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Obviously, this is a big money fight, you right, but
it's one fight you're not comfortable with just making this
big payday and that's it because that's what people saying, Oh,
Edgar wanted to pay day, but if you were to
beat Canelo, there's so much money down the line after that.
So so you're not going in this fight just for
the big payday.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
You're going to win.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
A couple yeah, bro, Like people be like, oh paid,
Like listen, man, you know not fast, You're not fast.
Ten million, five million go? You know how fast that
ship go? Bro? Y'all know you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
I don't know, but you know how fast?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Money go right pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
You don't know how much that go, how fast that goes?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
But not that you know what I'm saying, Like money goes,
money goes, bro. So it's like to me, it's like, yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So that's you gotta pay it.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
So does a fighter go You normally go home with
like half his person when it's all sat and done.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yeah, probably like sixty because like boxing, Mama, like baseball,
you get a hundred million dollar contract, as your bro.
Feel me, with boxing you get a hundred million you
gotta pay taxes. You gotta pay your trainers, you gotta
pay management, You gotta pay your s get a cut, yeah,
promoters get a cut. You gotta pay your assistant, if
you have an assistant. You got to pay a strength
condition to cold, You got pay nutrition.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
All your family members asking for money, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
But you know I take care of my mom and stuff.
So you know that's that's another stop, you know what
I'm saying right there. Plus you know I gotta take
care of wifey too. You know, she got to get
she gotta get the bags, the juice. Yeah, and Pops
and Pops. I don't even mentioned Pops because like Pops
is like you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,
as long as I'm good, he's gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
What have you worked on?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
What have you worked on to improve your your your
fighting since you're since the last few fights, it's Canelo.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
It's a different beast.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
It's different. I don't really want to talk about it,
you know what I'm saying. That's why I haven't real
been posting on up like on Instagram, training and stuff,
you know, because we want to shock the world on
the fourteenth. You know, I got so much hate. I
got so much haters, I got so much people to
prove wrong. And it's my opportunity, you know, God presented
the opportunity for us. Bro, Like I'm like I said before,
I'm not supposed to be it, you know, so I
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gotta take this opportunity and just fly with it, man,
and really stamp my name in his sport and make history.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
So shock the world will be in your in your
eyes ideally knocking Canelo out whatever comes.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
You know, I don't really like U, and I never
did that. You know what I'm saying, like coming, and
you know I probably said it, you know, to people
like I'm gonna knock this Niga the fuck out, But
you know it's a different. It's different, you know what
I'm saying, And there's always been different. I'm never going
in there predicting a knockout for me. I like it
to come, you know, and if it does come and come,
if not, then you know we're ready to box all bro.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I heard you earlier when you was talking about when
you were playting with having a conversation and he kept
asking you to fight, and you was like, nah, I
got a plan A I'm not thinking about playing beat
So even with this fight going going against Canelo, do
you even write down or even could sit at what
happens if I do lose.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
No, that's not on my mom like at all. I know, bro,
after this fight, listen September fourteenth, fright, I fight and
my coach told me, who do you want to be
September fifteenth, when you wake up in that morning after
that fight, September fifteen, when you're in your hotel room
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and you wake up in the morning ten in the
morning after your fight, who you're going to be? Who
you want to be? You want to be a superstar,
a megastar in a sport because you beat this guy,
it's over. Like that bag is forty ms, you know
what I'm saying. Sponsorships, that's it, private, everything like your
life started, your family's going to be set up for
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the rest of your life. Or you want to be
a guy like y'all. I just went in there, foll
kind of low. You know, I got paid, you know,
I got paid a couple of m's and you know,
so we took an l for me and with that,
that shit just scares me. Think about that, you know
what I'm saying. Like, that's my that's that's that's what
keeps me going.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
You feel me like or no legacy outside of the money? Canelo?
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Does he still I heard he was getting stripped with
one of the belts or is he still undisputed at
one sixty?
Speaker 6 (37:10):
He still? All right?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:13):
So if you want to be Canelo, I mean you'll
be fighting for three straps that he has. Do you
want to be undisputed?
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Like this?
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Legacy? Is legacy important to you? Like winning titles in
different divisions?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Of course? You know that's at the end of the day.
That's why I've been boxing for twenty years, right, Like
the money, the money's gonna come, you know, as long
as as long as you know I'm doing the right
thing and I'm disciplined in the sport and I'm doing
what I have to do in the sport, the money
gonna come. Like sponsorship is gonna come, endorsement, all that's
gonna come. We just got to focus on the main
prizcent that's boxing, you know what I'm saying, and winning.
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As long as we're doing that, everything gonna come. You
know what I'm saying. And the legacy. You know what
I'm saying. You focus on legacy. When you focus on legacy,
you stamp in your last name into the history books
of boxing. And you know, with me, I got a
big island. You know, it's small, but it's big, and
there's a lot of boxes and fans out there. Probably
three million people on the island. Is out of three
million is probably nine hundred thousand boxing fans, you know.
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So you know, I gotta go out there and I
gotta put my name. I've been in the sport for
twenty years, so I want to go out there and
put my name with the greats. You know, when they
mentioned Trinidad, when they mentioned Macho Camacho, a footle beneath
Az Miguel Cordy, They're gonna mention my last name. They're
gonna mention me.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
All right, Well, a fight is September fourteenth at the
Timobile Arena in vegue Is. Good luck, Danelo Alvarez versu
Edgar Balanga. We appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Brother,
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. We
are the Breakfast Club. Of course he got aft with
us today because we got a special guest in the building,
Edgar Balonga.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome brother, my boys.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Everything man, real good.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
How you feeling a big fight coming up, sir, September
fourteenth against Canelo Alvarez.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
How you feeling about it? Amazing?
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You know, I'm highly blessed man to be in this position.
You know, I'm not supposed to be here. You know,
we went through a lot of trials and tribulations. You
feel me, and you know we got here, man, we did.
You know, all the hard work is paid off. Man,
And I started boxing at seven years old and twenty
years later, man, you know I'm finding the biggest fight
of my life. Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Now you wanted this fight for a long time. You've
been calling it out, You've been saying it. So what
what finally got the deal done?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You know I've been I've been talking about this for years. Man.
You know, even before who's about to turn pro? With
my you know, I was like, you know, we've seen
Connelo Rosen and we was just like, yo, listen, man,
like this the fight that's gonna happen soon. You know
something big. You know, Puerto Rico's is Mexico, and I
feel like, do my hard work keeping God first. You know,
(01:17):
it happened, man, and the manifesting for me, like just
talking about it, putting out there in the universe for me,
and it came.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
All the golden ticket. People say it is like is
it really lucrative?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I mean, you know obviously because they say they say,
is the golden tick because it's money. You know what
I'm saying, You're not. You're not You're not making the
money he was making before you for me when you
fight him obviously, because he's you know, he's a legend, bro.
And yeah, you know, but we got the fight from
my last fight. You know, we became the w BA
mandatory my fort Patrick McCory and knocked him out in
the sixth round. He was a light heavyweight ib O
(01:52):
world world champion, and uh yeah, man, we did our thing.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
They were just like, you listen, we need a big
knockout in order to like in a spot for this,
you know. And I came through, man, big big, big,
Like what.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Uh were there negotiations for this fight? Or was the
first all for accepted? You know what I mean, because obviously,
you know, to Charlemagne's point, it's the money fight that
people want. Was the first off of the money that
you expected? Or did your manager Keith have to fight
for a little bit more?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Oh? Yeah, it was. It was crazy, man. It was
to the point that we probably thought we wasn't gonna fight.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Because you know, because in this show off it wasn't
with you.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, And this is where I really noticed, like, and
at the level where we're are now, at the high level,
I understand why a lot of big fights don't get made.
Excuse me, because you know, the numbers. The numbers got
to look right, you know, and it's about the fighting,
it's about pay per views, and there's about a lot
of other things. For me, So it hit me like, damn,
this is why a lot of big fights don't get
made because of that, you feel me, because because of
(02:50):
the numbers is not right. And then a lot of
negotiations behind that lot, like phone calls after phone like
it was days like you know what I'm saying. I
wake up and I'm like damn we get in a
fight or not. But I was in the gym. I
was working, working, working, working, because I know I was like,
I want them catching you off.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
God.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
You know a lot of fighters they start training the day,
you know, the day that they signed a fight, and
next thing you know, you got five six weeks to
the fight. Like what happened was now time and then
you're not in shape for me. So I was like
my father was only like your egg, This shit's gonna happen,
you know, whether you like it or not. I think
it's gonna happen. So we got to stay ready. We
gotta make sure we're ready for this.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Are you nervous at all?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
You know?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Because it's it's like you said, you grew up watching
him and watching Box and he was one of the
people that you like watching god A live. So it's
kind of like as a kid, it's like playing your
Lebron or playing.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Your your Jordan.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Do you get nervous for playing one of your your
idols fighting one of the idols at all?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I wouldn't say nervous. I'm just excited, man, Like I'm
not gonna lie. I was like on two hours of
sleep the day before yesterday, I was just going, bro.
I was in the gym track working my coach, Like, yo, bro,
you ain't take none or because you you up, bro,
Like they were trying to me to sleep. You know
(04:00):
what I'm saying, like, yoga, go take a nap. You know,
we only got two hours. We just we just landed
in New York. Got tending them and sending In the morning,
I'll say, well, I'm going, man, Like I said, the
fights here, man, the fight stars now, you know, and
I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Man.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You know, there's opportunity to make history. Man, you know
what I'm saying. And I'm from New York, Puerto Rican
and I'm from the trenches. And you know, a lot
of people depending on me, you know what I'm saying,
and through me, people that never made it to that,
to that level, I win. They all going to win.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Mhm.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
You know this weekend, you know, I just came from
from from LA to Crawford fight. And during the fight, Turkey,
his excellency Chic put out an offer to Canelo for
the butterfight. So in other words, they're looking past you, right,
He's already thinking about Terrence Crawford fighting Canelo OBErs.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
How does that make you feel?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I was upset looking at because they just kept mentioning
you know what I'm saying, And I'm like, damn, they
overlooking me. But you know it was bound to happen,
you from like, I feel like now all my life
I've been overlooked, you know what I'm saying, even me
when I turned pro. You know, all the promoters didn't
want to sign me. Nobody wanted to sign me. Now
we don't want them.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I have no clue, bro for real? For like, you know,
I went to the Olympic Charles I lost, so we
were supposed to go to Puerto Rico, but had I
had an injury. So we were just like, yo, we're
gonna turn pro. So when we want up turning pro?
No promoters wanted it, but I stood ten toes down.
I told Mark, I told my dad. You know, they
(05:32):
was just like, listen, they don't want you soon. And
when I went in the gym because nobody, nobody wanted
to sign me, right, so I was like, okay, copies
you no more. I'm used to this, you know what
I'm saying. I'm used to being on the dog I'm
used to being in this position. And what started happening.
I started knocking people out in the first round, and
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Like that right there, sixteen first round, I got screak.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, So that right there was like the key start
to everything for me. Like I was like, Yo, these
people out here is really dug and me. They they
don't see my work. They don't see okay, And I
started polling people out. Boom boom, boom boom. Next thing
you know, I got the city shaking, our promoters just
calling us.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Did that help it hurt? Though?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The reason I ask is when you knock everybody in
the first round, everybody expects that every fight. So if
you don't and you take somebody to the distance, or
you take somebody to the sixth round, they're like, eggle
fell off, heat the same, but you can't knock out
everybody in the first round.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So did that help it hurt?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I said, it was a gift. It's always a gift
for me because I feel like God, you know, God
definitely blessed me with his power for me, and it's
in the strength that I got is crazy. So but
then you know, I felt like it was a curse
a little bit too, because you know, people now all
they expected knockouts now, so they don't really look at
They don't want to look at my boxing scales. They
don't want to look at me boxing and moving around
(06:47):
and hit and don't get hit no more. You know,
they like this, dude's a bum for me. So I
went five straight fights. It was supposed to be four
straight fights, but I went five straight fights to distance
and your people have been like, ash me bye, you
know what I'm saying on social media and shit. But
I say it's a curse, right because you know you're
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knocking people out. People get used to that. For me,
people get used to the knockouts. Knockouts knockouts in boxing
is not about that. You feel me like the first
round was cool, Don't get me wrong, because it blew
me up quick. You know what I'm saying. In two years.
Next thing, I got a little Wayne on my phone.
I started, I'm going to Tracey Morgan's crib. You know,
I built a crazy relationship with him. You for me
so and then you know if I Joe been with
(07:28):
me since before and so yeah, man, like it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
You know, Khalie Plant he said you are an unworthy
challenger for Canelo. He said you got a week and
lack of experience and poor technical boxing skills. He said,
you have no experience against genuine, world class opposition, and
you struggled against the marginal competition that your promoters have
carefully selected for.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
You to maintain your unbeaten record. What do you say
to that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
He's a hater period, He's a guy. He had his
see you know, it was a thing with him right
and I told him when I seen him and I
seeing him in Vegas, I say, y'all got a lot
of respect for you because you've been at that levee.
What I'm saying, even though you lost, but you've been
at that level like you fought Canelo, you fought Benevidez,
and I got to give you that respect.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
You got it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
You got to that level for me. But I feel
like now he clout chasing you for me. He's doing
a lot of weird shit just to just to be
relevant again for me, because I feel like, and a
lot of people know, dude, don't sell you for me.
He don't sound less he unless he's finding a big,
a big fighter you for me. So I'm like, you'
a hater, bro, because when it was your time to shine,
when it was your time to step in ever ying
with can of Loo and all these guys. I never
(08:33):
bashed you. I never said nothing about you. You know what
I'm saying. I let you have your moment, but you
ain't take your opportunity for me. You loss, you got
knocked out.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
So how did that? In Vegas?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I saw you guys going back and forth in a
clip that went viral, and you said you was giving
him respect. So how did it turn into you guys
going back and forth? Because what did he say to you?
What was his Because you're broad the.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
End of the day. I'm I'm a dude man, right
like I'm from I'm from New York. I'm from the
trenches for me, So it's different how you come you're going.
If I'm giving you respect, you're gonna respect for me.
And I gave him that respect, but he just kept
going and going and going. Yo.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
But what's up?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yo? You're gonna give me that fight?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I'm like, now I'm focusing on some time. I got Cannelo,
But forget about that. If you don't get knola, what's up?
I'm like, no, it's not I'm not even worrying about that. Like,
I got a plan. We're sticking with that now. But
he just kept going and going, Oh yeah, but what
happened with the spawn? And he's talking about spaw wing.
I was like seventeen years old, and I'm like, what
what happened in the sixth round? I fucked him up?
(09:29):
I fucked you up and I blew you on the
sixth round with the body side you ran out the ring?
He started, Oh, oh, I'm all right. So that's when
you know I got on my New York.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
SHO got seventeen years when you were Yeah, he was
it pro already.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, he was pro, and I just turned it up
on him. You know what I'm saying, Like, if you
know what ship went Viraloe called me like, yo, he
looks sound like a real New York nigga.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Man did did when when you when you beat somebody
in sparring, is that something you can hold over their
head until y'all actually getting the ring?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I don't believe in that, you know, saying, I think
sparring and sparring for me because you have a lot
of off days in the gym for me, like a
lot of times, right, sometimes the day before sparring, you
probably got to do what you did to a day.
For me, there's a crazy strimming condition and training, then
you did a crazy boxing training and you got to
spil the next this So sometimes your body be off
(10:20):
from me. So I don't really count sparring. Like there's
a lot of guys that probably get beat up and
spawning and they go fight night and they shine like
a star. And you got guys that look like floored
in a gym and they go fight and they tuck
their tail next thing. You know, you're like, yo, But well,
those skills that when you was in the gym, And
it's because a lot of people can't when when it's
(10:41):
that time. You know, when you got the lights, you
got the ref when you got thousands and thousands of fans,
you know that the energy that that light gets to people, sometimes.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
It's just them dumb overwhelmed them.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Facts, Is there any constructive criticism to take from something
like Khali said, like when you hear when you hear
the things that he lifted you, So you know what,
maybe I do need to improve on My boxing skills
are little bit maybe I do need.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You know, to move my head a little bit more
like you listen to any of that?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
No, So you.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Know, outside of outside of plant, like you you mentioned
the social media, they've been attacking you saying you don't
deserve the Canelo fight. You haven't done enough to earn
that fight. What do you say to those people that
aren't giving you a shot and saying you don't deserve
to fight.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Even if even if quote unquote I would have deserved
a fight, they still would have been talking shit. Yo, bro,
I'm probably like the top. I'm probably like between me, Chicall,
Devin Ryan and who else is out there and me,
it's five of us that everybody hate and boxing your
her And they've been like that for a while already
for me. And I'm gonna always be like this, bro,
(11:47):
like is gonna be hate?
Speaker 6 (11:48):
What do you think it is about about you?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I'm humble, but you know with me, I'm like, it's
because I'm flat. You know, we're from New York, but
that's us. Feel me, like people get a sense of me,
like all this dude's cocky, all this do on the
way they talk about my jewelry, They talk about my watches.
This that all yet? But so what Bro, that's New
York like when you come but people don't understand the
only people from New York understand that you feel me.
So people from New York they could be haters, but
(12:12):
they would just hate off my box and create a
lot of people just hate me overall because of my
lifestyle you feel.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Does it affect you though? Do you read that and
be like I gotta change this or does that bother
you it all?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Nah? I don't know. Before when it first started, I
used to yo, I'm not gonna lie. I want to
do a little depression, bro, because I never received crazy
back lives like that. Fore me after that when I
did the Mike Tyson bite when a hudo right and
and they suspended me and then they was just trashing me,
bro for like eight months. Why people?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
What got into you that night?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Nah? So listen, look, so that's why I've been right
the guy right. First of all, the guy came in overweight,
like three pounds cool. He came in on purpose. He
came in overweight. He did some rye g see the
ship like, came in overweight. He didn't want to lose
the weight. It was about to take like fifty thousand
from his from his check. He said, Yo, the day
were for the fight. Yo, if they'll take fifty thousand
from me, the fights off. So whatever, he came over weight.
(13:02):
Obviously I made the weight, but isn't it rules for that,
Like we have to listen. His coach did an interview
after I beat him and said that they they attacked,
it was to come in three pounds of weight so
they don't gotta be weight drained so they could absorb
my punches better from me.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
So he didn't get fired. He didn't. They didn't take
the fifty grand from him. He kept it.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
No, no, no, Top Ringer had to pay me because if not,
they would have the fight would have been off of
It was Puerto Rican their weekend. You know what I'm saying.
Tickets was sold. It was a sold out event, so
it was like Noah, no, no, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
So for those they don't know that money goes to you.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, on thousand percent. And then during the fight, So
I got this dude on YouTube as a crazy fan
of me, and he broke the whole ten rounds down.
But how dirty? Uh? And Gulo was fighting. You know
what I'm saying, Like he split me open with an elbow.
He was throwing shots like when he was throwing up
because he was like, you know what I'm saying, hit me.
All I felt was head butts and elbows the first
four rounds for me, So that was already getting me
(13:53):
like upset. And then I told the ref before the
fight in the back. We was like, listen, this dude's
a dirty fighter, so you gotta watch you with het
butts and with elbows. Yeah. Yeah, but he wasn't you
know what I'm saying. He wasn't the warning him and nothing,
so it was just off O don't know. It was
his own you know, come.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Over, what are you thinking about Tyson when you did it?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Being from New York from Brooklyn, right yeah, oh yeah
yeah yeah, so you probably like.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Bush and from Lower East Side, so you don't.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Wait till there's no mouthpiece though, with the mouthpiece.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
But your front we never here, we never, we never.
I never grabbed them like you see Mike Tyson winning grab.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Mike Tyson it yeah, I never.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
I never Mike Tyson out.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It was like an attempt for me, but you know,
I most hated SOMs. Oh yeah, you're gonna take off
you need like I think it was like seven months,
six months, yeah, six months, and then they charged me
like fifteen thousand whatever.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Did you watch the Crawford imagine More fight?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Do you think Crawford can challenge Canlo? Do you think
he can beat him or or be at that level
with Canelo?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I think they pushing it, you know, I listen, man,
Crawford is a legend, bro, Like, I studied crawl Ford
so much because his discipline and that ring isn't saying
you know what I'm saying, and his IQ is even
more crazy, feel me. So I respect Crawford as a
fighter one hundred percent. Like he's a legend for me.
He's gonna go down as one of the greatest quarter
box and Canello I think they just they was just
(15:26):
overstepping until now they've seen him fight a guy that's
a real one fifty four pounder that's strong for me,
and you know, he gave him a tough fight. You know.
So now everybody's, oh, oh why because everybody probably thought
he was gonna knock this dude out, you know what
I'm saying. But when you go up and wait, people
gotta understand that those punches are different man like fighters absorbed.
(15:46):
The punch is way different for me, you see, like
guys like Benavitaz that went up to seventy five and
he thought he thought that that Ukrainian dude could even
buggle him for me.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
So, but it's not only about weight though, I mean,
magine more style is a lot different than then Canelos. Right,
boxing is about styles, and he's awkward and hard the time.
Canelo doesn't fight like that. Canelo picks his shots and
doesn't move his feet as much.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
You know, but he but after the fight, he kept
saying how strong the guy was. So if he he
felt like that guy was strong, just imagine imagine.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
Strong and he hits harder.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
You get what I'm saying, So right there, you know,
and then you know, you notice that he was just
like you listen, man like Cannelo got a fight coming up,
you know, and he wanted obviously he just finished fighting,
so he don't even want to think about it.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I still like, I still like that matchup for but
I think stylistically is still.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
A good fight.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Yeah, but obviously you know that's down the line. You
got a big fight with Canelo. Stylistically, why are you
better than Canelo?
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Outrest?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I just think right now, right listen, Connelo is a legend,
and you know he been in there with the best
for me, like Floyd triple G three times, So we
would never overlook Canelo and what he does you for me.
But the thing is right me, I gotta go in there.
I said this before. We gotta be a little crazy,
(17:08):
you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, it's kind of cool,
but I feel like it's my time now, you know
what I'm saying. And I got this opportunity for a
reason at the right moment. Stylically, I got everything. You know,
I'm bigger, I'm stronger, I could take a punch, and
I'm younger. You know, Canello has his experience over me,
so you know we know that with this fight, it's
(17:29):
all about IQ for me. It's not physical about this fight.
I'm strong, you know what I'm saying, Like I got that.
They say I got that country and bunking strength for me,
So I know I'm strong. But he fought strong opponents
as well. You know, he fought triple G, He fought
a lot of guys like a punt. He fought a
big BiVO. But with me, it's the IQ that's going
to change the game, you know, And we we've been
that's what we've really been focusing on, is IQ in
(17:51):
that gym and working on a game plan to execute,
because like I said, you can't go in there like
a crash dumb with that dude. For me, you can't
go in in there, you know, I think that's what
Muir did. You know he went in there just throwing punches.
For me, they take a punch, but there was no
IQ behind it, and you gotta make him think, you
know what I'm saying. You gotta make him think before
he throws. You got to make sure that you know
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he's gonna come to fight. So a guy like him,
you gotta make him think on hundred percent. For me,
you can't just go in there and just try to think.
I can't go in there and I got bricks in
these hands, man, if I land because he got hit,
he got hit by Triple G. He got hit by
guys that for me, and he got crazy movements. So
you know, like I said, it's his IQ, it's intelligence.
You know, it's gonna be an intelligent fight.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Crazy thing is if if you lose, quote unquote you
were supposed to, but if you win, they'll be like, oh,
he was on his way out. So how do you
feel like that? Like it feels like you can't win
regardless of what you do.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, I mean even you said that if I lose,
they're gonna he thought. But I don't even think it's
that You're They're gonna still trust me. They's still gonna
probably put me trying to put me as a meme
on Twitter, on social media, because that's how much hey
I received for me. So I'm just I'm just absorbing
everything for me, Like I'm just staying focused here because
(19:05):
this is the most important thing. Your mind controls everything
in your body. For me, your mind tells your body
what to do. So if I could keep this in tact,
and I'm keeping my mental sharp and strong, you know,
and getting ready for the fight five six weeks, seven
weeks before the fight, here, I'm good to go, man,
Like I'm one hundred percent mentally. It's dangerous now.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Bud had a hit list, right, a list of everybody
that talked negative about him, so when he won, he
was able to check off the list. Charlomage was one
of them. Do you have that same type of list
of everybody that talks back and like when I win,
I'm going back to check the last person.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Sure, man, I got a whole list. I probably got
like a thousand people.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
A couple name a couple that we would know that
on that list.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, it's more like bloggers and ship. You know what
I'm saying, Like people I see on Twitter?
Speaker 6 (19:57):
What about fighters?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Fighters? Yeah? Uh plant Kaylor playing bitch as Bena Vidaz
bitch azz his father MOREL. That's about it. MOREL.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
David Morrell said, David Morrell.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, as as for the fighters here right there, that's
the only one I really seen, Like oh and probably uh,
I've seen like a little bullshit podcast. Nobody be worrying
about no but Terrence Crawford stableman, and he always be chatting,
always be talking ship. Yeah, does it.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Really be smoke?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Is it real smoke between like you and ben A
Vidas or it is just like it's boxing talk.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
It's boxing talk. But like I don't respect you know,
I don't respect them because they they they're not good people. Bro,
they you know what type of people they are? Like
I go to you right and I'll be on your ship.
Oh my goshaw man, the best podcast, Oh my god
in the world. You feel me, and they go behind
your back, they'll leave, they'll leave the room, and like, Yo,
fuck this guy. This guy's a piece of ship. It's
(21:00):
got no good. His podcast is ship. That's the type
of guy here. And I ran that happened to me
with that with David's pops. After the fight, kind of
little fight, I'm walking into the MGM. Everybody start bombing
me in the MGM, going crazy. So I look and
I see him. I'm like, oh, look at his pops
right this. So I want to go run down on
him because I already heard him. He was talking. He
(21:21):
was talking ship like a couple of months back. So
I went to go run down on him. He's like, hey,
you know the.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Best guy here.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
This is a good fighter right here.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Man. You know, I started and something one of the
brothers that was out there, you know, I was recorder.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Was like, yo, you was just sucking man ship about
this dude.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Man fuck got here and I look and I was like, sorry, man, like,
here's the type of people he is. You know what
I'm saying he's he's a fucking cry bro. Like you
know what I'm saying. I'm just holding him like this
dude's funny, man. But that's the type of people they
are too. And I heard him say something like about
the fight. He was like, it's trash or something's a
trashatz fight. And I'm like, it's a trashatz fight. But
(21:59):
me and you was, and it wouldn't be tried show
your last fight, no, no, no me getting a fight. It
was always a tryshass fight.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
So I saw, you know before before your last fight,
the last fight was a knockout. Before that, you had
to fight that went to went the distance, went by decision,
and they were against people who weren't considered elite level fighters.
So would you say the competition got tough for are
you just weren't on your A game during those fights?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah? You know what happened was right, I got my
coach with me. That started me in the gym, right,
that started me and in the pros. Right, So it's
gonna be I'm gonna break it down short. When I
got to the gym, right when I first turned pro,
I told my coach I want to knock people out, right,
he showed me how to knock people out, start to
(22:47):
knocking people out. Now me and him split for manager,
you know what I'm saying, for management issues and stuff.
So me and him had a split after like my
turn fight. He wasn't done with me building me for me,
like my coach is not. He's not a coach, he's
a teacher. And you know, he was taught very well
from his from his father. You know, they're from the Bronx.
(23:08):
And I was just getting so much seasoned with you
know what I'm saying with Mark, for right, he was
just teaching me and it's just repetitional repetition. So when
we separated, right, you know, I never as a competition
kept you know, escalating. We never I never with the
coaches that I have, we never really like broke down
(23:30):
everything for me and being at gym and work on
the IQ, you know what I'm saying. And he wasn't
a fan of the first round now because like he
hated that ship. Like he never told me, you gotta
knock this guy in the first round. He was like, Yo,
we're gonna do this, We're gonna follow this, We're gonna
set this guy out and we're not gouna come and come.
If not, you already know what time it is. You
know what I'm saying. So he was never a big
fan of going into the into the second round. We
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always broke these guys down the first round because if
you look at all my fights, it was slip boom
dropping them. Know what I'm saying. It was a setup punch.
So now when I when we started with the competition
started getting more stiff and more you know, started increasing,
I noticed like I was never like we was never
going back into the drawing balls like after the first
(24:11):
when I thought them on, it was like we never
went back and studied the fight and you know, and
just build off i Q you know what I'm saying,
and just getting in the gym and working repetition. I
feel like it was just always like getting the gym
and just train, getting in the gym, train for a fight,
you know what I'm saying. It wasn't never like really
breaking breaking it down or really watching opponents and watching
what they doing, how they fight, how they move and everything.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
So so when you full in Vegas thill, when you
face first, that face that versity for the first time,
when you got dropped right, That's when the negativity came.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
That's when that they started to come.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
What did you what did you learn from that fight
outside of what you're saying right now, Like you felt
like training you weren't doing what you had to do. Uh,
But in the fight, facing that adversity for the first time,
what were you going through at that moment?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I told my bicyle in the third round, throwing the
hook to the body like I felt I felt it. Yeah,
I just saying it in the corner. But you know what,
I'll tell you this though. I tell you this right.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
So pops in the back saying that you broke y
arm and he said he would have pulled if he
knew y'r arm was messed up. But you didn't say
nothing to do that whole fight well to finish it out.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I felt like, I'm not gonna I feel like it
was a big I got here with a bullet, bro Like,
I felt like it was like a bullet woon't like
when I when it came out, I felt, I want
to say a bullet, but it's crazy, probably like a
style like somebody stabbed me in my bicyle. I'm saying
with my muscle rip, and I feel like that changed
a lot too, because I broke his audible bone in
(25:44):
three places, like after this fight, you've seen him, you
know what's crazy. They was gonna stop the fight. I
think it was in the ninth the oh yeah, it
wasn't in the ninth. It was gonna stop because you know,
you know how it is in box and we break
somebody's orble bone. Day. They stopped to fight quick. They
don't stop seeing for the Joe Sounders and he broke
his ship. They stopped it. They stopped it fast. So
I was like, damn, and I've been broke his audible
(26:05):
bone in like the sixth round or something, you know.
So they were supposed to stop that fight because the
corner was went to pops and I was like, yo,
it's crazy because you know, I faced adversity. I got dropped.
It was more like an off balanced shot. I wasn't
hurt because when I dropped, when I fell to the floor,
was tired. I looked up when I seen the fucking lights,
I'm like what I'm doing here? And I got tight
and I started banging my gloves. But the cupman was like,
we was gonna stop the fight. But since he caught
(26:27):
the drop. That was whatever, like, let's go into the
tenth round. Well, one thing I tell you if Mark
was with me, If I was with Mark, I would
have been twenty two and over twenty two knockouts one
hundred percent guarantee. Wow, one hundred percent, hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Did you grow up watching like Felix Trinidad and Miguel
Miguel Codo, uh na.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Trinidad Okay, yeah, Coodo, Yeah yeah, because you know Coodo
was uh he was coming out. He became a you know,
Puerto Rican star and stuff. So yeah, I was watching him,
But my main guy was you know Trinidad and Floyd.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
What inspiration did they provide for you?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Just how I loved how you know with Trinida four,
it was like a gathering in my in my crib,
you know, like with my grandparents, my mom, my uncles
and stuff, we get together. You know, they be having
the beers out with the flag going crazy, you know
what I'm saying. So me seeing that right then on
it and obviously I was like three years old, four
years old, so I didn't know I was gonna be
a boxer for me, but that's what made me fall
(27:21):
in love with boxing was because I.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Am speaking of the flag in Puerto Rico. Obviously, Puerto Rico.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Uh, you know has a big community to the boxing fans, right,
they love boxing. Do you take on that pressure like
to be the next star because for a moment you
were that guy like you were gonna carry that torch, right,
and then you started to get that hate. And then
they started saying Xander Zayas is gonna be the next
Puerto Rican star. Then we found out Shaquor Stevenson has
(27:48):
half Puerto Rican. So then he started waving that flag
like who is the next Puerto Rican start? Yeah, his
father's Puerto Rican. Yeah, so he started wearing the Puerto
Rican flag on the trunks and all that.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
You knew that, right yeah? So but are you still
like the Puerto Rican top dog?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I let the fans, you know, like with me, I
know my heart what it is for me. I know,
like in my heart, I know I'm the guy for me,
But I let the I let the I let the
fans like let them, you know what I'm saying, because
they the ones that don't want to put that for me.
So and I know that I got I got a
lot of hate. So it is what it is. I'm
not gonna change who I am. I'm not gonna change
how I dress. I'm not gonna change my appearances to
(28:28):
anybody for me because they want a guy that you know,
you see, you know what it is that that's why
they hated Mato Kamato. Macho Kama is from New York.
He's from from Spanish Harlem, and Macho Kamoto was you know, flash,
flashy dude for me, and I feel like, you know,
my my coach. You know, they don't really like fighters,
like that's like flash, you know, they're they're like an artist,
(28:49):
don't like like like I'm well or lou or something.
For me, that's that's buzzed down, drippy. But when it
comes to fighting, they want I don't know, they would
let guys like with you know, with suits on and
you know, collar shirts and for me, but that's not me.
I'm from New York, you know, like we grew up different.
So I'm not gonna change nothing. But you know, September fourteenth,
for some you know that, you know, I go down
(29:10):
in history.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Man, when is the last time you've been disdoubted going
into a fight ever?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Now, this is the first time.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, now this is crazy.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
They're saying first round, second round, Ko taking his bullshit.
He's not making bread. That's why he's tight. And look
he just he just fought at one seventy five and
went the distance. Clown too. That's what I'm saying. Everybody
always want to talk talk to you know what you do,
know what it is. They've been chasing, trying to chase
this dude. For me and me, I just had my
(29:41):
feet up and to my back and the fight just
came to me for me and these guys is doing
extra shiit like trying to you know, kind of trying
to do a lot of things to get this fight.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Well, boxing is more than just like what the fans
want to see. Obviously, there's the Puerto Rican and Mexican
you know, that heritage, that rivalry that also helped. Would
you agree to that help making this fight made this
fight happen.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
One thousand percent, like one hundred percent, you know what
I'm saying. I think that had a major play with it.
You know, I'm a guy right that I don't have
a title right now, but it's like I do have
a title for me, Like my status is like if
I got a world title. You know what I'm saying,
Like the energy, the order, the you know, when I
walk into any you know what I'm saying, in too fights,
(30:26):
they you know what I'm saying, Like when I went
to the Rye g. Seeing Devin Haney fight, I'm in Brooklyn,
they had to put security guards like all around me
and stuff because it was just people running over me.
You know what I'm saying. So that type of energy
for me and I'm a ticket seller.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Are you still with match Room with Eddie Hurn? Yeah,
so he helped put this fight together.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, but you know it was Keith Conley, my manager,
my dad. You know what I'm saying. I got everything
put together with PBC. Yeah, but you know, shut out
like I always say, you know, shout out to Eddie.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Man so they're not Mattroom is not involved in this
fight on the fourteenth at all.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, it's all PBC. You know what I'm saying. But
you know, shout out to Eddie, Shout out the Matchroom.
You know what I'm saying, Like we definitely you know,
if it wasn't you know, obviously signing with them, you
probably would have never got this fight. How much?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
How much is your son impacted your life? He was born.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
A lot, man, Like, that's my little twin right there.
You know what I'm saying. It happened so quick. Wait
with my girl, you know she got pregnant quick. You
know what I'm saying. I've seen her and we started
vibbing out in three months. You know, she came out
pregnant and I was I was cool with it, like
and I was a guy that I wasn't really into
relation relationship. But it felt like four.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Months for myself at all times.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
No, no, no, no all the time. Now. But you
know how when you find that one is like you
feel like you already known lose man three four months.
It felt like we was together for you know what
I'm saying. And it just felt normally when she came pregnant.
If it was another check out, probably would have been
(31:56):
I would have been going crazy like nah, oh man,
don't know, man, I'm not ready. But what he was like,
he was ready. Yeah, it was meant to be one
hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
So you have some more.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah, I'm trying to go for the girl. This yeah,
the girl.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
And how does that influence you when you go into
the ring.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like I mean, you know, my son looks up to me.
You know what I'm saying. He loves going to the
gym with me. You know, he loves he does everything
I do. You know. So now it's like, I know
I'm a role model for me, for me, So now
I gotta change how I talk, I act, how I
carry myself even more in the ring. You know, I
just look at him and I know that. You know,
this is the way I feed him, you know what
(32:33):
I'm saying. There is the way I can provide a
certain lifestyle for him and put him in the best
schools and be able to afford it. You know, I
don't want him to be a boxer. I know he's
gonna be a superstar. That's why I named him Chosen.
But I feel like, you know, he's gonna be some
amazing in this world. And you know he needs a
father like me. You know, he needs he needs that bro,
He needs that bag behind him to put him in
the right places for me and to take it to
(32:55):
that level. So with that being said, you know, just
me because of that, you know, that's what I feel
like I'm more focused than.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Of speaking of bread.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Obviously, this is a big money fight, you right, but
it's one fight you're not comfortable with just making this
big payday and that's it because that's what people saying, Oh,
Edgar wanted to pay day, but if you were to
beat Canelo, there's so much money down the line after that.
So so you're not going in this fight just for
the big payday.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
You're going to win.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
A couple yeah, bro, Like people be like, oh paid,
Like listen, man, you know not fast, You're not fast.
Ten million, five million go? You know how fast that
ship go? Bro? Y'all know you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
I don't know, but you know how fast?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Money go right pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
You don't know how much that go, how fast that goes?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
But not that you know what I'm saying, Like money goes,
money goes, bro. So it's like to me, it's like, yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So that's you gotta pay it.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
So does a fighter go You normally go home with
like half his person when it's all sat and done.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yeah, probably like sixty because like boxing, Mama, like baseball,
you get a hundred million dollar contract, as your bro.
Feel me, with boxing you get a hundred million you
gotta pay taxes. You gotta pay your trainers, you gotta
pay management, You gotta pay your s get a cut, yeah,
promoters get a cut. You gotta pay your assistant, if
you have an assistant. You got to pay a strength
condition to cold, You got pay nutrition.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
All your family members asking for money, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
But you know I take care of my mom and stuff.
So you know that's that's another stop, you know what
I'm saying right there. Plus you know I gotta take
care of wifey too. You know, she got to get
she gotta get the bags, the juice. Yeah, and Pops
and Pops. I don't even mentioned Pops because like Pops
is like you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,
as long as I'm good, he's gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
What have you worked on?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
What have you worked on to improve your your your
fighting since you're since the last few fights, it's Canelo.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
It's a different beast.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
It's different. I don't really want to talk about it,
you know what I'm saying. That's why I haven't real
been posting on up like on Instagram, training and stuff,
you know, because we want to shock the world on
the fourteenth. You know, I got so much hate. I
got so much haters, I got so much people to
prove wrong. And it's my opportunity, you know, God presented
the opportunity for us. Bro, Like I'm like I said before,
I'm not supposed to be it, you know, so I
(35:15):
gotta take this opportunity and just fly with it, man,
and really stamp my name in his sport and make history.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
So shock the world will be in your in your
eyes ideally knocking Canelo out whatever comes.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
You know, I don't really like U, and I never
did that. You know what I'm saying, like coming, and
you know I probably said it, you know, to people
like I'm gonna knock this Niga the fuck out, But
you know it's a different. It's different, you know what
I'm saying, And there's always been different. I'm never going
in there predicting a knockout for me. I like it
to come, you know, and if it does come and come,
if not, then you know we're ready to box all bro.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I heard you earlier when you was talking about when
you were playting with having a conversation and he kept
asking you to fight, and you was like, nah, I
got a plan A I'm not thinking about playing beat
So even with this fight going going against Canelo, do
you even write down or even could sit at what
happens if I do lose.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
No, that's not on my mom like at all. I know, bro,
after this fight, listen September fourteenth, fright, I fight and
my coach told me, who do you want to be
September fifteenth, when you wake up in that morning after
that fight, September fifteen, when you're in your hotel room
(36:22):
and you wake up in the morning ten in the
morning after your fight, who you're going to be? Who
you want to be? You want to be a superstar,
a megastar in a sport because you beat this guy,
it's over. Like that bag is forty ms, you know
what I'm saying. Sponsorships, that's it, private, everything like your
life started, your family's going to be set up for
(36:44):
the rest of your life. Or you want to be
a guy like y'all. I just went in there, foll
kind of low. You know, I got paid, you know,
I got paid a couple of m's and you know,
so we took an l for me and with that,
that shit just scares me. Think about that, you know
what I'm saying. Like, that's my that's that's that's what
keeps me going.
Speaker 6 (37:01):
You feel me like or no legacy outside of the money? Canelo?
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Does he still I heard he was getting stripped with
one of the belts or is he still undisputed at
one sixty?
Speaker 6 (37:10):
He still? All right?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:13):
So if you want to be Canelo, I mean you'll
be fighting for three straps that he has. Do you
want to be undisputed?
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Like this?
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Legacy? Is legacy important to you? Like winning titles in
different divisions?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Of course? You know that's at the end of the day.
That's why I've been boxing for twenty years, right, Like
the money, the money's gonna come, you know, as long
as as long as you know I'm doing the right
thing and I'm disciplined in the sport and I'm doing
what I have to do in the sport, the money
gonna come. Like sponsorship is gonna come, endorsement, all that's
gonna come. We just got to focus on the main
prizcent that's boxing, you know what I'm saying, and winning.
(37:45):
As long as we're doing that, everything gonna come. You
know what I'm saying. And the legacy. You know what
I'm saying. You focus on legacy. When you focus on legacy,
you stamp in your last name into the history books
of boxing. And you know, with me, I got a
big island. You know, it's small, but it's big, and
there's a lot of boxes and fans out there. Probably
three million people on the island. Is out of three
million is probably nine hundred thousand boxing fans, you know.
(38:06):
So you know, I gotta go out there and I
gotta put my name. I've been in the sport for
twenty years, so I want to go out there and
put my name with the greats. You know, when they
mentioned Trinidad, when they mentioned Macho Camacho, a footle beneath
Az Miguel Cordy, They're gonna mention my last name. They're
gonna mention me.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
All right, Well, a fight is September fourteenth at the
Timobile Arena in vegue Is. Good luck, Danelo Alvarez versu
Edgar Balanga. We appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
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